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Speaker 1: We welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolli. He

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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson and Matt. It is a Thursday

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Speaker 1: here in Pittsburgh. Not a bad day, but no, it

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Speaker 1: was a little chilli earlier, a little chilli.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This week you play a team in the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers for the Pittsburgh Steelers hosting them on Sunday. You

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Speaker 1: wouldn't think whether it would be a factor for either

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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't think it would matter one bit. Did we

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Speaker 2: know what? Have you seen any kind of forecast?

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Speaker 1: I have not, but I assume it's going to continue

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Speaker 1: to be like this. But I thought too, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is not like you know, for example, you know you're

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Speaker 1: not You're not bringing the Miami Dolphins into Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. And I do think they

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Speaker 2: want to run the ball, and you know, people run

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Speaker 2: the ball against them. And I don't think it's gould

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Speaker 2: be a highestlying passing game either.

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Speaker 1: This could be a quick game on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. A lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of running of the football, Yeah, not a lot of

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Speaker 2: early points and games, not a lot of plays run,

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Speaker 2: a lot of running of the football. You know, masking,

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Speaker 2: not only masking, but miss your quarterback a little bit,

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Speaker 2: you know. So, yeah, it's an interesting matchup, but.

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Speaker 1: I did it's kind of a little bit of chess

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Speaker 1: match there in that respect. Looking here, Matt at the

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, they have their mid season predictions and

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Speaker 1: they have their The headline was eight teams picked to

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Speaker 1: lift to some the Lombardi Trophy in Las Vegas. So

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Speaker 1: that what they did was, this is the poll that

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Speaker 1: they do. They do this every once in a while. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: where they get all of their contributing writers or editors

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Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, and then they all put

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Speaker 1: votes on who they think is going to do what.

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Speaker 2: You gather up all the votes and whoever is the

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Speaker 2: most and that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're picking the team that will wins the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The Philadelphia Eagles are number one right now.

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Speaker 2: You got to think their postseason path will be less

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Speaker 1: AFC team, that's the big thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know if they're the best team

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Speaker 2: nice and they've got a pretty good path to get

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Speaker 2: the number one seed in the NFC. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: So some of the picks here. Tom Blair picking the

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Speaker 2: Possibly, maybe Bengals have some immediate concern this they do, ye.

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Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez picking the Eagles over the Dolphins, Michael Ocotta

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's boring. I mean, yeah, Chiefs Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, didn't we just see that?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And they've both been in the Super Bowl quite a

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Speaker 2: it's worthy.

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Speaker 1: Nick Shook picking picking the Eagles over the Ravens, as

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kendoms shock the Ravens didn't come up to.

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Speaker 1: I heard that a lot from Tony. Tony Romo on

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Speaker 1: that's great, and isn't this great? And that's great? Great? Great? Yeah, great, great,

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Speaker 2: It wasn't great if you were Seattle.

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Speaker 1: No, it was not. But he's like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how anybody's ever going to stop this Ravens team. Hey, Tony,

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Speaker 1: they scored ten points agains the Steelers about three weeks here,

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Speaker 1: four weeks ago. Yeah, they are stoppable.

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Speaker 2: They're stoppable. They're not a juggernaut. I know they're doing

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either.

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Speaker 1: The number two team on here, surprisingly enough, it's another

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Speaker 2: Niners, the Niners. Yeah, the past is easier it is.

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Speaker 2: They're not playing good football. They're not either. I think

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Speaker 1: Maybe get a little healthier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Debo's back. I mean, but Trent Williams is not.

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Speaker 1: So Brooks Sarasimo picks forty nine ers over the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can see the Niners getting there and winning.

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Speaker 1: At third And this is a tie? Are Cincinnati and

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Speaker 1: Judy Batista, we love Judy Judy. Yeah, just wor as

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant Bengals over Eagles. Bobby Kawanik Bengals over Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Well right, No, sorry, I'm sorry Michelle for listening Bengals

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Speaker 1: time for three, you get the Chiefs, Chiefs over Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: The first time we've seen the Cowboys in.

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Speaker 2: We haven't heard much from the Dolphins lately.

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Speaker 1: No Anthony holds him Escarino Chiefs over Eagles. Marcus Jones

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Speaker 1: That's two Cowboys. At five is the Ravens makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Well, the same teams as you to man.

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Speaker 2: That's the only only Bills vote.

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Speaker 1: Only Bills vote for a win.

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Speaker 2: So I was listening to Greg Cosel's a guest every

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Speaker 2: And their offense is better than their defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense is not playing well right now, and

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Speaker 1: all banged up. At seven. Tied for seventh are the Saints.

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Speaker 1: And you can guess who voted for the Saints to

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Car family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, David Carr picked Saints over Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Like, come on, doesn't the NFL network have a problem

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Speaker 1: At some point you gotta say, David, you're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to vote for your brother to do stuff anymore. Right,

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Speaker 1: we ask you questions on these polls. You can't put

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Speaker 1: offensive players in the league. He's not. You can't vote

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Speaker 2: You're the only one voting for like it stands out come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, right, I mean I don't get it. So

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Speaker 2: See they come to win the division?

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Speaker 1: Great, have at it, you know, no Steelers, No, no Browns,

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Speaker 1: Could you see that happening with the Browns?

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Speaker 1: The Lions weren't mentioned at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Lions could win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And I mean we only saw three NFC teams mentioned,

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Speaker 1: But I think everybody gets that feeling in their mouth. Well,

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Speaker 2: Seattle's as good as the Lions.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. Yeah, but I think everybody forget like

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Speaker 1: Ravens games and take out the NFC games that they've played, sure,

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Speaker 1: Lamar destroys the NFC. We've we've established that that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: He's proving it.

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Speaker 1: More than ever this year. The other games are you know, Okay,

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Ravens don't play the NFC in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Right unless they get to the city.

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Speaker 2: You got to win a lot of games to do that.

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Speaker 1: They played Houston the first week of the season, rookie

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Speaker 1: Houston rookie quarterback in his first start. Then they played

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they started the wrong guy. They didn't start Walker either.

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Speaker 1: They lost to the Colts with the rookie quarterback. They

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and we're joined now by the Lord

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Speaker 3: I have been living in my fears. I got the

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Speaker 3: best for you know, what's in it for you? And

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00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 3: I tell them I want seventeen home Thursday night games

442
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 3: and a bye week.

443
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: It's not bad, I mean, you know, so you get

444
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: to live with that win for a whole week and

445
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: then you get a few extra days.

446
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it just feels well, if you know, and

447
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 3: if they were all really in a row like that

448
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 3: would still be one a week. But it feels like more,

449
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 3: or at least that does to me every weekends.

450
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 1: All well, then yeah, you get to see everybody else

451
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: win or lose over the weekend, and they got to

452
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: suffer through it, you know.

453
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah right, I mean, but it's you know, it's anyway.

454
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, so but I didn't. I didn't have to

455
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 3: live in my fears last weekend.

456
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: You did not, you know, Uh, the entire AFC North

457
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 1: winds though last weekend, Bob, And so everybody's now two

458
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: games over five hundred at least.

459
00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 5: Thoughts on the division, Hey, I mean it's well, certainly

460
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 5: by the metric of you know, teams that have winning records,

461
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 5: it's the it's the best division in the NFL.

462
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 3: I mean, no other division has more than two teams

463
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: over five hundred and you know the Steelers have all

464
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 3: four excuse me, THEFC North has all four, you know,

465
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 3: six hundred or better five and three. Right, they'll help

466
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: me with my messes under the best, Okay. So Plus,

467
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: you know, when you look at the and you look

468
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: at the teams, you know, Baltimore and Cincinnati are very

469
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: real Super Bowl contenders. Uh, you know, I don't. I

470
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 3: don't particularly, I'm not in love with the Ravens to

471
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: the extent that a lot of the national media seems

472
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: to be. I guess maybe we see them enough to

473
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: know that they have flaws too.

474
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 1: We see them in a different light because when we

475
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 1: see them, the Steelers beat them five out of the

476
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: six five and the last six times.

477
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's that's you have to know how

478
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: to play the Yeah, I mean, if you're not ready

479
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 3: to be in a bar brawl, stay home, because that's

480
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: what it's going to be. You have to be willing

481
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 3: to go to the center of the ring and trade punch.

482
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, break the break the acoustic and they'll say let's go.

483
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,239
Speaker 2: And we were talking the first that I think that

484
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: Lamar versus n F NFC thing is pretty real too.

485
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: Oh. Absolutely, they have no idea how to play this guy,

486
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: exactly none. So, but the Bengals to me that quarterback

487
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: is a problem. I really all due respect to Patrick Mahomes.

488
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: If I were make putting my team together, I picked

489
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. I just I like that they follow him.

490
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: I mean he's changing, He's changing the course of that franchise.

491
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's got something a little bit more,

492
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 3: uh in some way than the Homes. Again, Uh, you know,

493
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think you really go wrong with

494
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: either choice. But I'm just saying, if I had to

495
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 3: pick one.

496
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: If you're picking first and I'm picking second, I'm fine

497
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: with you picking either one. I'll take number two. That's

498
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: not bad.

499
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: But if I was picking one, I would pick Burroughs

500
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: burrough excuse me. So anyway, Yeah, what do I think

501
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: of the division? I think it's gonna be very, very

502
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: competitive the rest of this part of the season, and

503
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 3: you know, having three road games, I don't think it's

504
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: the most ideal scenario for a team trying to navigate it.

505
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: You didn't mention the former employer of mine in the

506
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: Cleveland area and concerns. Are you worried about them? Are

507
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: they gonna fall off as they usually do.

508
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: I think defense is for real, so you know they

509
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 3: have that to rely on, you know. The Watson thing,

510
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what to make of that.

511
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: I really don't. I don't know what the recent issue

512
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 3: was with him. He played and he didn't play, was

513
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: hard he practiced, he didn't. I mean, you know, I

514
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: don't I talk about pebbles in the shoes. I think

515
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: I think that that was a little bit more significant.

516
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, I mean I don't know. He looked

517
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: pretty good or he was. He was good enough to

518
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 3: win with last weekend, and you know, we'll see if

519
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 3: he continues. But I mean, he can't go back to,

520
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 3: you know, some of those weeks where he was not

521
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: very efficient or good or bad to the point where

522
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: he was hurting their chances of winning. So I love

523
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: to see how that works out. You have. Let me

524
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 3: say this, Let me ask you, Matt this. Uh, there

525
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: seems to be a lot of national momentum for Miles

526
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: Garrett over t J Wat. I personally don't see it,

527
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 3: but do you.

528
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: I think they're neck and neck as players, to be

529
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: honest with you, I mean, I think he's remarkably talented.

530
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: I think he's benefiting from being on what I would

531
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 2: say is a top two defense right now. And I

532
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: also think unfortunately voters national folks look at it like, well,

533
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: wa won the award, Now it's time for someone new,

534
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: you know. But I honestly think that along with Bosa

535
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: and Parsons and maybe Max Crosby, those are the elite

536
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: players at that position. There's four or five of them,

537
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: and there you could shake him up in a bag

538
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: and put them in any order you want.

539
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I don't see enough of Getrett to

540
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: know that whether he would be as versatile as what.

541
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: Not in terms of dropping into coverage and things like that.

542
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: But all I know Bob is it. Every time we

543
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: do see him, he never does anything thing in the

544
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: games that we see live and in person. The Steelers

545
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: just have a way of negating him well.

546
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: And it's not like, you know, the offensive tackles are

547
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: all pros.

548
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: No, And when we when we see why play against Cleveland,

549
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: his his I mean, he's completely changes the games. Yeah,

550
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: and their offensive line is better at least is supposed

551
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: to be, Yeah, supposed to be. Like I don't I

552
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: don't get it. I'm with you, No, I don't.

553
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: But anyway, but yeah, Clevelands, it has a has a

554
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: real defense. And you know, I haven't studied the schedules

555
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: enough to know, but I think it's going to take

556
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: ten wins to get into the playoffs.

557
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: In the Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, it's

558
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: just going to be a tough road wall.

559
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 3: It better be decent tiebreakers too, I mean not just

560
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: there may be a ten and seven that doesn't get it,

561
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: is what I'm saying. Usually it looks you know, my

562
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: experience is that when you're looking at records now and

563
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: trying to look at the numbers for the various teams

564
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: and who how many games they have left, you're trying

565
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: to figure out, you know, what kind of record it's

566
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 3: going to take. My experience is the estimates now are

567
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: usually a little bit high because there's an assumption that

568
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: when you're looking at the schedule, although when this, this, this,

569
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: and this, well this is the NFL, it doesn't work

570
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: like that. You know, it's very rare that you can

571
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: look at a team schedule now and predict a four

572
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 3: game winning streak or you know, whatever it is to

573
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: help you get to the number that you believe they're

574
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: going to get to. So all teams I think lose

575
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: games that you don't expect them to lose. But that's

576
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what happens in the league.

577
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Getty kick out. Everyone's like, well, they'll beat the cold,

578
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: they'll beat you, they'll be New England maybe you.

579
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: Know, yeah right, well maybe not. I mean, because there

580
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: are teams that I mean, I don't know. The Lagans

581
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: could lose this week.

582
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, since he could last week to Texans with all

583
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: their injuries.

584
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: Bob, I'm gonna read you off some scores here and okay,

585
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 1: so twenty this is this is one team schedule. They

586
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: won twenty five, twenty thirty four to twenty eight, twenty five, eleven,

587
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: thirty four, thirty one, twenty three, fourteen, lost fourteen to

588
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: twenty to fourteen thirty one, seventeen, thirty eight, thirty one,

589
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty three. That's your Philadelphia Eagles what they've

590
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: done this year. But the bottom line is they're eight

591
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: and one. They haven't dominated anybody this year, but they

592
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: found ways to win games. I know you've done that.

593
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: You do the thing every week with Mike Tomlin. If

594
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: people don't if fans don't read that on game days,

595
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Mike or Bob's peace with Mike Tomlin is little aston

596
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: answered kind of thing. You're really missing something there. But

597
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: when you're talking about a team's persona or they're you know,

598
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: whatever it is, however you want to describe it, isn't

599
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: finding ways to win games? Isn't that kind of a

600
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: you know what you're who you are?

601
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is a I think that becomes

602
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: part of your identity, just as you know, finding ways

603
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: to win, I think is just as legitimate. And there

604
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: are teams that are in the opposite end of that.

605
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: They find ways to lose, right. I think that over

606
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: the course of time. You know, if you watch a

607
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: team how their season unfolds and why it unfolds the

608
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: way it does, there are some there are conclusions of

609
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: that nature that can be drawn. And I think you

610
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: can look at what the Steelers are right now, what

611
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: they have been to this point when you say it

612
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: that way, and say that this is a team that

613
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: can find ways to win. So, yeah, that's a quality

614
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: to me.

615
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: Well, important part of that that Matt always brings up

616
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: is finding ways to not lose the game.

617
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: I think that's what the Steelers are doing, you know.

618
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: Don't make the big mistake.

619
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: Well okay, but I mean I could point to the

620
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: first Cleveland game that to me was not a game

621
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 3: where they won by not making a big mistake. They

622
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: were dynamic on defense and blocked a punt. I mean

623
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: that that's the kind of thing to me that is different. Yes,

624
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: there is a good get up, like I think Sunday

625
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: is going to be a perfect game for what you

626
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: just said, don't mess it up.

627
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: Like the Steelers can't be the team that gets the

628
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: punt blocked.

629
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: Right exactly, don't mess it up, as you said, don't

630
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: hit it into the next.

631
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: But no unforced errors.

632
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, but there are some games I think that

633
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: you have to be dynamic in some areas in addition

634
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: to you don't give it away. But I think you

635
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: have to step it up a little bit too and

636
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: be dynamic. You know, maybe in one phase a foin

637
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: an extended period, or maybe it's a couple of plays

638
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: in a in a couple of different phases that are

639
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: dynamic and alters the scoreboard. And as I said, just

640
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: like that first Browns game, you know, you you block

641
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: a punt, that's two points plus the field position, the

642
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: pick six, what was the first play of the game,

643
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: right high Smith and then the strip Watts touchdown. So, uh,

644
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes it it has to be more than

645
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 3: just don't hit it in. But I think that they

646
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: they're finding ways. See, I don't think that you need

647
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: to have to win the same way all the time.

648
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: He find a ways, you know, find the same way

649
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: all the time. And I think that's also quality because

650
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: if it's sometimes as you mentioned, or I'm hoping for

651
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: this Sunday, you know, don't hit it into a net

652
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: into the net kind of performance, or if it needs

653
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: to be what it was against the Browns that second week,

654
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: you know, maybe they can find a way to do

655
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: that too.

656
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: How much of the packers worry you?

657
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: The packers worry me because they don't. They don't seem

658
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: like they should worry you. That's why they're worry me.

659
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: I mean, that's you know, it's messed up. That is

660
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: that line of thinking. Is I really That's what the

661
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: NFL has taught me in thirty five years, that it's

662
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: it's there are it is so often true that whatever

663
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: you really think is going to happen does not, uh,

664
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Speaker 3: And that this just feels like one of those to

665
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: me that has the potential for that. I mean, the

666
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: Packers look at the Packers and you think, you know this,

667
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: this should be I want to say easy, but uh,

668
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: something less than what that Thursday night game was. I

669
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: certainly hope, you know, in terms of, you know, the

670
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: last seven seconds, the outcome is still up for grabs

671
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: with the one snap of the ball, you know. I mean,

672
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: but that's why this one scares me is because of that,

673
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: and so often that doesn't seem to play out the

674
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: way that you would predicted might.

675
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: Bob.

676
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: The Steelers got their running game going, the best that

677
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: we've seen this year, the best we've seen since the

678
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: end of last year in that game against the Titans.

679
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that sustainable for them?

680
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think that it's something that you

681
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: want to you would like to be sustainable. Uh. You know.

682
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: I do like the the division of labor in the backfield.

683
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: I do like the it seems to me anyway that

684
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: there's more power blocking than zone reads or stretch zones

685
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: or whatever that stuff is called. And I think that

686
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: that's advantageous to the kind of lineman that we have.

687
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: And you know, the running backs, because you know, if

688
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: we could can, I would This is what I would

689
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: like to see once. I would like to see Nause

690
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: and Harris get fifteen plus carries in a game or

691
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: every time he gets to the line of scrimmage clean.

692
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: How about that one? How about giving me that one?

693
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, because you know, don't run them sideways,

694
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: run them, you know, more north and south and get

695
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: them to the line of scrimmage. Queen, let me see

696
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: what that looks like one time, because I think that

697
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: could be you know, as Mike Tomlan calls it a

698
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: winning edge, I think that guy can he can he

699
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: can aid the cause of attrition, so to speak. He

700
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: could become a weapon in a couple of different ways.

701
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: And he's the best hammer they've had since Roam Venice.

702
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: Like a guy that's just gonna, okay, I'm gonna I'm

703
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna be the hammer. You're gonna be the nail. And

704
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, by the time the hammer's hit you for

705
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: the eighteenth time in the game, you don't want to

706
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: get hit by the hammer anymore.

707
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: Right, you know, he's a little he's he's not Derrick Henry,

708
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: And I don't mean that, you know, in a in

709
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: a disparaging way. But he's not. I mean, Nagi is

710
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: a slasher. I think a little bit more on him.

711
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not describing it right, but I know when

712
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: I see it. I saw in my Alabama games that

713
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: you know, I know what kind of you know, what

714
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: he provides to the offense, what he does to the opponent,

715
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just that's something I would

716
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: like to see. I mean, some of these narratives swirling

717
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: around the steam would just bay baffle me. They really

718
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what people are seeing.

719
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: Maybe I set the question what I'm seeing. I think

720
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: that's so often this is a problem in my mind.

721
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: People go in with I like this guy or I

722
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: don't like this guy, just for general reasons, and then

723
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: that's how their opinion is formed. You know, they like Nause,

724
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 3: they defend them, they don't like Nause. Jamie Warren should

725
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: be starting, you know, sometimes it should it doesn't. It

726
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: shouldn't be that. I mean that kind of bias maybe

727
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: for lack of a better word, and enter into the

728
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: who you like or who you think is better or whatever.

729
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: In commentating on a lot of this stuff. So anyway,

730
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: that's just me get off my lawn, team.

731
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: Mate and fonder of the first round pick.

732
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep your helmet on.

733
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: No, don't do that.

734
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: But but no, but see, I like I like that,

735
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: uh from an offensive lineman too, you know, I like

736
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: that mean, you know, that's perhaps you don't want to

737
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: go to that extent naturally when you drawn a penalty.

738
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: But that crew likes to throw flags and he's a rookie,

739
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: and so they're going to teach him the lesson. Okay,

740
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: and that's all right, fine. I hope that. Uh, the

741
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: NFL officials are proud of themselves because they really showed

742
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: Roderick Jones and Joey Porter Junior. Whose boss because that's

743
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: really important for them to do that. But yeah, I

744
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 3: like I like the number one pick. I like the

745
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: number two pick.

746
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, both of them.

747
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: And it's above right, both of them, the third the

748
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: second number two or the third pick, our third pick. Yeah,

749
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: I like I like all of those guys. So and hey,

750
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: let me tell you this. There's a theory I've heard

751
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: that the reason you don't want to start rookies until

752
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 3: like the sixth seventh game of the season is is

753
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: because once you do that then they're playing the lengths

754
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: of what they're used to playing in a college season

755
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: plus a bowl game, Whereas if you start them right

756
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: off the front, then by Thanksgiving they're running on teams.

757
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 3: So think about that a little bit when you kind

758
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: of look back on Broderick Jones's path to the starting lineup,

759
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: Joey Porter Junior's path to the starting lineup, that path

760
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 3: to the playing a lot more because really defensive line

761
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: of me, it doesn't matter who starts, They rotate those

762
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: guys in and on so much just more snapcouts to

763
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: me than who starts and he doesn't. But anyway, there's

764
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: a method to a lot of that. It goes on

765
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: to the people think that is, you know, totally random

766
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 3: or you know makes no sense or being overly conservative

767
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: or whatever. I mean, there's there's some thought because into

768
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 3: those things, and if you know, figure them out or

769
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: take the time to maybe learn them, that makes sense.

770
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: So that's all I got on that.

771
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Well, with that, Bob, we will let you go. Our

772
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: guest has been Bob Labriola, editor of Steeler's Digest in

773
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: Steelers dot com and the lord of living in his fears.

774
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: We'll see if he's back there on Sunday when the

775
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: Steelers host the Packers at one o'clock at Akrocher Stadium.

776
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be. You have amped yourself up to

777
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: living firmly in your fears by then.

778
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: Bob absolutely the first time Jordan loved, you know, skates

779
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: out of the park.

780
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Anyways, He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to

781
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

782
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Speaker 1: with more right after this.

783
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784
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759
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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie, and we

793
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: have the injury reports for both teams here. Matt. For

794
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers today. Now, I want to remind people that

795
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers practice outside today and it rained kind of

796
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: heavily overnight. The field was pretty wet, So makea Fitzpatrick

797
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: did not practice again. Surprise there. Yeah, and land And Roberts,

798
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: who was limited on Wednesday, didn't practice today. He's dealing

799
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: with the knee. But as I mentioned, the field was

800
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: kind of wet. I'm guessing the coaching staff said, you

801
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: know what, let's.

802
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Say if it's a knee or an ankle or something

803
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: like that, maybe a strain, maybe let's let's.

804
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Not go out there and run around on a wet

805
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: turf and aggravate that. No, Montrevius Adams today, he's still

806
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: doing with the ankle injury. He didn't practice yesterday either.

807
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: And then Cam Hayward, who was limited on Wednesday, also

808
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: did not practice today because of the same reason that

809
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: a Landon Roberts I'm assuming did not.

810
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 2: And you got to think, I mean, there's a veteran aspect.

811
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: Obviously it came Yeah, those guys well, and yeah, those

812
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: guys have been around the block, and Cam missed a

813
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: lot of time, came back and played substantial number of snaps.

814
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: Why push them this week.

815
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: It all, take it easy.

816
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

817
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: On the Packers side of things, this is a little

818
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: more interesting.

819
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, say they're side is more interesting to me period.

820
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: JayR Alexander did not participate again today dealing with that

821
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: shoulder issue. Kenny Clark limited for the second day in

822
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: a row with that shoulder issue.

823
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: He's a very good player.

824
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: Safety Rudy Ford limited. Uh, guard, Well, they listened to

825
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 1: his guard tackle because he does play, end up playing

826
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: both Elkton Jenkins limited today.

827
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: Definitely their best offensive line.

828
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Aaron Jones limited again today with the hamstring added

829
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: to the injury report today. Guard Josh Myers with a

830
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: knee limited participant. He's the center, yeah, center, Yeah, I'm

831
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: sorry centerty center.

832
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't running on there yesterday too.

833
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, running running And Nieman Joshnemen their left tackle, they

834
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: were both limited today after not practicing yesterday.

835
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: Fifth of the lines on the on the injury report.

836
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

837
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: Quay Walker with the groin did not participate for the

838
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: second day. Yeah, and then Christian Watson had the full

839
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: participation again today. So as you mentioned, four four fifths

840
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: of their offensive line. Yeah, he was limited today, and

841
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: their best big guy on defense. Yeah, of all like

842
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: the three und pound neighborhoods. Those are the guys who

843
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: don't want to miss. Jerry Lexander's a kind of a

844
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: big guy that I mean, even if half those guys

845
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: miss a game or three random of that group, that's

846
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: a big blow. I mean, and Watson back's big, and

847
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: I think they'll take some shots with him. I would

848
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: be shocked if Aaron Jones isn't available. But the blocking

849
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: thing worries you. Yeah, I mean, you know these guys,

850
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: so if Nieman we're going to miss this game, they're

851
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: left tackle, Yeah, I would assume they would bump Jenkins out.

852
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: I was thinking too. I was like, I wonder if

853
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: he would be the jack of all trade for them,

854
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: especially considering the matchup. I don't. I mean, Buckyard's out

855
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: of the equation, right, I mean, Sonieman's already the backup,

856
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: but he's been okay, but.

857
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: Then you're lining then you're lining up somebody opposite Cam

858
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: Hayward who's not quittion.

859
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

860
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: I don't know their O line depth chart. Well enough,

861
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: we'll go over that in the next okay, next yeah,

862
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: I should next hour. Okay, that sounds good because I

863
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: don't know who what what puzzle pieces they have behind

864
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 2: the starters. Myers could also play guard, but he's the center.

865
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't want to mess with your center. No, right,

866
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: If he's the center, he's gonna move.

867
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there.

868
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: But Jenkins's position versatile, but he's on the injury list.

869
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little nicked up this week.

870
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I forget what I was thinking about on that.

871
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: Kway Walker is an interesting player. I mean, he didn't

872
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: play all yesterday, all last week. He has first round

873
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: traits to no end. I mean, he's super long, built, great,

874
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: can really run, starting to kind of come into his own.

875
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: And I forget where I heard this, but I heard

876
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: someone saying with Savage out or even Savage hasn't played

877
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: that great that they thought I wish I could credit him,

878
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know where he heard this. They thought

879
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: the Packers' safeties are the worst position group in the

880
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: entire NFL. I mean, I know this Ford dude has

881
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: had some picks, but he didn't he's quite banged up,

882
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: and the dudes have been t out at safety are

883
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: really problematic.

884
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's now. Jonathan Owens and if Rudy

885
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: if Rudy Ford doesn't play, then it's Anthony Johnson junior.

886
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, who's a rookie and these are a seventh

887
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 2: round rookie es right, And I know he's a corner,

888
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: but they just traded Russell Douglas too, so the secondary's

889
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: in a lot of flucks. And if the O line

890
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 2: and secondary are in a lot of flucks, man.

891
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, we'll get more into this in

892
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: the next segment, but they're starting Carrington Valentine.

893
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: They like it as far the reason they traded Douglas

894
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: as they want to give him a shot. But he's

895
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: a late he's.

896
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: A seventh round rookie, right, right, Like you get to

897
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: you might have two seventh round rookies starting in your secondary.

898
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, not by choice, not by choice, absolutely not. But

899
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: just think about the safety situation for I don't know,

900
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 2: slot receivers, you know, tight ends.

901
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: Maybe a shot down the field, yeah.

902
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I mean that's an area of weakness

903
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: no matter what.

904
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it could be something to keep an eye

905
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: on this game. Like I said, we'll go over the

906
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: Packers roster in more depth in the next hour here,

907
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: as we often do here. When the Steelers play a

908
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: team that we're not used to seeing a whole.

909
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: Lot of You're gonna hear the words young youth, inexperienced

910
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: a lot, and that's by design. I mean, this is

911
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: the post Rogers era, but they have a lot of

912
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: inexperienced youth, et cetera.

913
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to rebuild this and you know, it

914
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: didn't work out well for them because that that draft

915
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: pick that they get back down because Aaron Rodgers got

916
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: hurt bumps down to the second. They were hoping to

917
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: have two first exactly exactly, you know, for giving up

918
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers.

919
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: Yes, so that's a done deal. They're gonna get the

920
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 2: Jets second. Yeah, you know, as they rebuild.

921
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: The worst thing. What Rogers was talking about coming back

922
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: in December, Now he comes back and wins them a

923
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: company of the Jets a couple of games in December,

924
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Yeah, now they're picking like twelve.

925
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: Or something. Right, that's very possible. But no, not they

926
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: got the short end of that stick. I mean, but

927
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: it was out of their hands. It wasn't like they

928
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 2: lost it or did something wrong to lose the pick.

929
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: It's you know, bad bad luck.

930
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just interesting that you're looking at a

931
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: frameranchise here that you know, their last two main quarterbacks,

932
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers, and they decided to part

933
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: ways with them early as opposed to waiting on it.

934
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: And you know, both of the Jets and both of

935
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: the Yeah, both of the Jets.

936
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really didn't work out for either team.

937
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: I guess it kind of did for Green Bay because

938
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: you had you had Rogers is not Love's not Rogers.

939
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 2: And they never thought he was. I mean, they both

940
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: were first round picks when there was a Hall of

941
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: Famer in place. But I don't think anyone thought Love

942
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: was just going to keep this trio going.

943
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: But they shot their shot. They tried, you know.

944
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: I think Rogers want it out too, and that kind

945
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: of ran its course. But it'd be a lot different

946
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: if you're the Jets first round pick coming back.

947
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you feel pretty good about it, especially Yeah. Yeah. Anyways,

948
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Speaker 1: we're going to get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lallie. You're listening to the Driver on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We will be back with our number

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