WEBVTT - Draft Night in Duval | Jaguars Happy Hour

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<v Speaker 1>It is Draft Day, April twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>Draft opening night twenty twenty four, we'll go to Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Sexton and Detroit in about five minutes from Draft Central

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<v Speaker 3>to get the latest from downtown Detroit ahead of the

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<v Speaker 3>draft Round one this evening. And then a little later

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<v Speaker 3>about four thirty Bucket Brooks in Los Angeles joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>We're on ten Toenexlam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP

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<v Speaker 3>Shadick with Jeff Logman and Tony Biselli. And here we

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<v Speaker 3>are on this beautiful night inside EverBank Stadium ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>the Duval Draft Party. Twenty twenty four. Should be an

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<v Speaker 3>epic night, guys, Yeah, and I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Look, the draft represents a lot of hope

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<v Speaker 3>for every football team that there is tonight, all thirty

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<v Speaker 3>two of them are hoping that they're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to get better, and every team's feeling really good

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<v Speaker 3>about themselves, will be even feeling better for the most

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<v Speaker 3>part about themselves after tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, bo, Well, I think we got

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<v Speaker 2>a great night. How about the West weather perfect?

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<v Speaker 5>It's perfect, It's I got the stadium set up for

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<v Speaker 5>the fans, and I think Jeff's right. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 5>is the time of year where everyone is hopeful and

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<v Speaker 5>you're trying to find that piece or multiple pieces that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of help you improve over whatever you did last year,

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<v Speaker 5>whether that's you know, trying to make the playoffs, trying

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<v Speaker 5>to win a division, you know, whatever that goal or

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<v Speaker 5>standard is. As a fan base, ultimately it's to win

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<v Speaker 5>the whole dang thing. And this is a This is

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<v Speaker 5>one of those things where this is one of those

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<v Speaker 5>dates on the calendar you're like, oh, okay, it's about

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<v Speaker 5>everyone can get excited. So during the season, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>every weekend, only half the teams are excited at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of the weekend, But tonight going in, everyone will

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<v Speaker 5>be excited and then they'll be the handful of fan bases.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll be booing with the pick, but most will think they.

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<v Speaker 2>Got their guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember he look, I got booed.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember watching them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think everybody got booed from being a

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<v Speaker 3>pick with New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a that's a tradition. But you know, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Perspective that we're given is kind of one from being

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<v Speaker 3>a fan of the team and also, uh maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a look of somebody that's a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more of a fan of a team like me

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<v Speaker 3>and Tony. But from the perspective of the players tonight

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<v Speaker 3>is anxiety ridden, you know. I mean, you don't know

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<v Speaker 3>where you're gonna go unless you're Caleb Williams or Jayalen

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<v Speaker 3>Daniels or May. I mean, a lot of these guys

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<v Speaker 3>have a pretty good idea that they're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>at the top of the draft, but once you get

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<v Speaker 3>past that, everybody else is like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>my future holds, and a lot of guys are also

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<v Speaker 3>looking at I don't know if Tony did this, but

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I mean I think everybody does at some

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<v Speaker 3>point when you're a potential draft pick, is you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at what the financial future is gonna hold and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>where am I going to be number one? And what

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<v Speaker 3>are they going to ask me to do? And then

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<v Speaker 3>what does the money look like on the slot that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get picked? And that's you know, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun involved in that. But there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of anxiety.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there is anxiety, There's no doubt about it. And

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<v Speaker 5>depending where you get picked, that anxiety can well.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't have much anxiety. It was quick.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a quick anxiety. I was fourteen. I had

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<v Speaker 5>a wait a little while. But even even the guys

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<v Speaker 5>who you know, yes, the first round is tonight, but

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<v Speaker 5>guys who are going to go in the second, third

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<v Speaker 5>round and they're you know, some guys who are gonna

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<v Speaker 5>end up in the second round are hoping that they're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna get picked the night they'll be disappointed. Guys who

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<v Speaker 5>thought maybe they were going to be a second round

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<v Speaker 5>or get pulled up, you know, their excitement.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think what it also represents is.

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<v Speaker 5>The fulfillment of a bunch of guys dreams and the

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<v Speaker 5>goals that they have set. I mean, I think all

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<v Speaker 5>of us who play, or most of us who played

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<v Speaker 5>in this game as a kid, you dreamed about doing it,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is what you wanted to do, and you

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<v Speaker 5>had success in high school. Then you go to college

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<v Speaker 5>and you have success in college, and whether you're a

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<v Speaker 5>first rounder or a mid rounder, you have a sense

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna get drafted. And this is the weekend where

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<v Speaker 5>though all the hard work, the long journey to get

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<v Speaker 5>there is kind of fulfilled and you wake up whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's after tonight or after this weekend, like I am

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<v Speaker 5>now an NFL player, and it starts a whole new journey.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's also with this represents night on

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<v Speaker 5>the player side.

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<v Speaker 3>Now let's touch on this. We've got the whole hour

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<v Speaker 3>here to get to the needs and what they could

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<v Speaker 3>do at seventeen moves and possibility. But in general, Trent

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<v Speaker 3>Balky and the person and el staff did a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of work in free agency to fill some holes with

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<v Speaker 3>some veteran players. Eric Armstead comes in, a defensive line,

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<v Speaker 3>Mitch Morris just to name a couple couple of secondary players.

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<v Speaker 3>So in your opinion, how does that set up the

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<v Speaker 3>needs now for the Jaguars going into this draft. What

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<v Speaker 3>are maybe one, two, and three. Well, I think for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part, you did a good job in free

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<v Speaker 3>agency of filling those holes, and I think every team

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<v Speaker 3>wants to do that for the most part, is fill

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<v Speaker 3>the holes that you have going into the draft so

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<v Speaker 3>that you can end up picking the best available player.

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<v Speaker 3>The one hole that the Jaguars did not plug I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think in free agency was the defensive back spot.

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<v Speaker 3>When I say defensive back, I'm talking about for the

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<v Speaker 3>most part, corner. You know, this is a passing league,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a nickel league, this is a dime league.

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<v Speaker 3>You need as many corners as you possibly can. And

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<v Speaker 3>you release Darius Williams and you replaced him with a

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<v Speaker 3>guy from Baltimore. Okay, I understand that, But even last

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<v Speaker 3>year with Darius Williams, you were searching for that guy

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<v Speaker 3>to be the third sure thing and you really didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have it, and it ended up being a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of different guys that played at some point. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's probably the number one need that really jumps

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<v Speaker 3>out as corner. And then Tony and I both kind

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<v Speaker 3>of had the same opinion. We felt that this team

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<v Speaker 3>needed to get better and more physical upfront with the

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<v Speaker 3>offense and defensive lines. And I'll let Tony speak more

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<v Speaker 3>to the defensive line. But I still think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>glaring need for this football team on the defensive side,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's inside or outside. The more dogs that you

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<v Speaker 3>can get to get after the quarterback, the better off

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<v Speaker 3>that you're gonna be. And again, I don't care if

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<v Speaker 3>it's edge or inside.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think they addressed Nickel Savage. I mean, at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the day, yes, his position says safety,

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<v Speaker 5>but if you go watch him at Green Bay, he

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<v Speaker 5>was a nickel player. I mean that's really where he

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<v Speaker 5>spent a bunch of his time, and that's more of

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<v Speaker 5>his build as well. They need the outside corner. Jeff's

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<v Speaker 5>right about that with Darius Williams and coming back, I

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<v Speaker 5>still go back to if you look at this team

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<v Speaker 5>last year, which where was the biggest void or where

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<v Speaker 5>did they struggle the most? And in my opinion, that

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<v Speaker 5>isn't being physical. I'm both lines of scrimmage and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to focus on the offensive line because we could not.

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<v Speaker 5>We were one of the worst teams in third and short.

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<v Speaker 5>We were not very good in the goal line. Are

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<v Speaker 5>your arts per carry? Dwindled as the year went on

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<v Speaker 5>and we struggled to control line of scrimmage, especially against

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<v Speaker 5>some of the more physical teams we played in the

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<v Speaker 5>back half of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Year, which there's a number of them in the division.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a number of those in the division.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you look at that group, I like the

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<v Speaker 5>Mitch Morris the signing, and he's a veteran hard nos

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<v Speaker 5>guy who knows how to play the game. I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's a good addition in the center. But it's pretty

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<v Speaker 5>much this you know, usual character cast of characters. Besides that,

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<v Speaker 5>and we are not a big group of people as

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<v Speaker 5>far as offensive line goes. If you look across the league,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that's your start in five and so

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think Trent and Doug will go in the

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<v Speaker 5>first round with an offensive linement. But I still think

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<v Speaker 5>over draft weekend that is a position group that you

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<v Speaker 5>have to build depth young guys, big physical guys on

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<v Speaker 5>the offensive line as well as the defense line. I

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<v Speaker 5>agree with Jeff Eric Armstead, great signing, but all Eric

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<v Speaker 5>Armstad is also highly productive, very good player, but also

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<v Speaker 5>coming off injuries and getting up there and getting an

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<v Speaker 5>age and so you know, how long can he perform

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<v Speaker 5>at the level I hope for a long time and

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<v Speaker 5>if we can get you know, three years a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit like Clay's game awesome because he's a top notch player.

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<v Speaker 3>But still, I'm not shutting any bodies. I'm not shutting

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<v Speaker 3>the door on offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Though in round one. Yeah, in round one, you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I'm not. We'll come back to that in

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<v Speaker 3>just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I like it. Yeah, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. I just don't think that's where they're

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to.

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<v Speaker 3>Downtown Detroit, Michigan. Brian Sexton is standing by at Draft

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<v Speaker 3>Central and it's been a long time coming for the

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<v Speaker 3>city of Detroit. Brian, good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey how are you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me tell you, obviously this is a town that's

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<v Speaker 6>very proud of the Lions. The last couple of seasons,

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<v Speaker 6>and everywhere you look there's a sea of Lion blue.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll let you guess what most Lions fans have said

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<v Speaker 6>to us and our crew when they've seen the Jaguar logo, right,

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<v Speaker 6>thanks for Hutchinson. They're a little sparse, spicy, they have

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<v Speaker 6>a lot to say. So it's a kaleidoscope of NFL

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<v Speaker 6>fans here the Draft. It left New York after the

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<v Speaker 6>twenty fourteen season and went to Chicago and Philly and

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<v Speaker 6>Dallas and Nashville, and you guys know, it's become an

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<v Speaker 6>epic event. I mean, fans just flooding from all over

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<v Speaker 6>the country. It feels sort of like a mini Super

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<v Speaker 6>Bowl week in terms of the events and the people

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<v Speaker 6>in the places.

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<v Speaker 1>This place is going to be hopping tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like the weather in Detroit is just custom

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<v Speaker 3>made for a little outdoor event in the Draft. It

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<v Speaker 3>looks like everybody is light jacket and the weather and

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<v Speaker 3>everything else looks to be good, and the skies are blue.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen, the NFL yesterday was worrying about it because it

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<v Speaker 6>was forty degrees with a wind chill that felt like thirty,

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<v Speaker 6>and it was as gray as could be. It felt

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<v Speaker 6>exactly like you'd expect the Upper Midwest to be in

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<v Speaker 6>late April, and of course, with the draft going to

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<v Speaker 6>Green Bay next year, it wasn't looking too good. This

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<v Speaker 6>is a Chamber of Commerce day, as folks have filed in,

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<v Speaker 6>and I have to tell you we were at the

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<v Speaker 6>player event yesterday with the prospects, a lot of national

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<v Speaker 6>media there, and all the talk here is is that

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<v Speaker 6>the Jaguars are going to get a shot at one

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<v Speaker 6>of those two corners.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two teams to.

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<v Speaker 6>Watch, Philadelphia, which currently is behind the Jaguars, and the Colts,

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<v Speaker 6>which currently are two spots in front of the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 1>Just depending on.

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<v Speaker 6>How the board rolls out with quarterbacks, if Michael Pennix

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<v Speaker 6>goes in the top fifteen picks, it's likely that one

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<v Speaker 6>of these two kids, either Quinyan Mitchell or Terry and

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<v Speaker 6>Arnold will be sitting there at seventeen if that's the

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<v Speaker 6>angle the Jaguars want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the chance to talk to both of them yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>They're impressive young men, both Floridians, by the way, Terry

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<v Speaker 6>and Arnold from Saint John Paul the Second High School

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<v Speaker 6>in Tallahassee and Mitchell from Williston, Florida, about twenty miles

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<v Speaker 6>south of Gainesville.

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<v Speaker 1>So both of them are eager to come home.

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<v Speaker 6>Both of them possessed the sort of qualities that can

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<v Speaker 6>play press even if neither one of them played press

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<v Speaker 6>predominantly in college, and they're thought to be the top

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<v Speaker 6>two corners right behind them, there's a surge right now

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<v Speaker 6>for Cooper to Jean who is one of those Swiss

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<v Speaker 6>army knife guys, and he ran faster than both of

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<v Speaker 6>the Alabama cornerbacks at the combined. And then Nate Wiggins

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<v Speaker 6>from Clemson, who I was told yesterday is a guy

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<v Speaker 6>that probably finds his way into the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 6>first round even though he's only one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 6>five pounds. He's got blazing speed, ran a four point

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<v Speaker 6>two eight, and most NFL teams think he's guy that

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<v Speaker 6>can recover if he gets beat off the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 6>So all the conversation here regarding the Jaguars and everything

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<v Speaker 6>between about fifteen and twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Has been cornered Brian.

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<v Speaker 5>Every draft weekend there's a buzz or there's a story developing,

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<v Speaker 5>Guys falling rising.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you hearing in Detroit?

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<v Speaker 5>Any big news come in over the last twenty four

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<v Speaker 5>to forty eight.

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<v Speaker 6>Hours, Really, Tony, the story has been the quarterbacks. You

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<v Speaker 6>figure there's four that are taken near the top ten.

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<v Speaker 6>And then does the kid from Washington Pennix Junior. Is

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<v Speaker 6>he the guy that goes? And the story is he's

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<v Speaker 6>probably gonna go thirteen to the Raiders who don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to miss a chance. They don't want to get cute

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<v Speaker 6>and back up into the first round and take a

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<v Speaker 6>chance on losing him. There's three teams that everybody's looking

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<v Speaker 6>at to see if they might make noise and move

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<v Speaker 6>up at quarterback, and those are the Giants are one,

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<v Speaker 6>the Minnesota Vikings are two, and then the third team

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<v Speaker 6>is the Denver Brown Goes. All of them are in

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<v Speaker 6>the quarterback market. They're really the ones that are the

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<v Speaker 6>tipping points. But we've been to these drafts where there

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<v Speaker 6>are players who have fallen hard on draft night, and

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<v Speaker 6>there's no story brewing, at least not at this point

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<v Speaker 6>about somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is not going to get drafted tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>And by the way, it's interesting there's only thirteen players here.

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<v Speaker 6>The number has dropped the last couple of years post

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<v Speaker 6>COVID but it's only thirteen, which is a really low

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<v Speaker 6>number for a league that's used to having a full

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<v Speaker 6>stage and players walking across and embracing the commissioner.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a little light tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Part of the reason for that is I remember when

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<v Speaker 5>I was, you know, got invited to New York before

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<v Speaker 5>I knew I was gonna pick. My biggest fear was

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<v Speaker 5>and I think guys watched the draft and they see

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<v Speaker 5>guys sitting there camera on them sliding out of the

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<v Speaker 5>first round.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about being miserable.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the fear anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's the money? It's the money you

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<v Speaker 2>think they're getting paid to go other places?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm being totally honest here. Okay, you're putting on

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<v Speaker 3>Brian and you probably would agree with me. The NFL

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<v Speaker 3>is putting on one heck of a production that's generating

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<v Speaker 3>great TV ratings and attracting these first round pick players

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<v Speaker 3>or trying to attract them to the event in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>They have never paid the players in the past. They've

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<v Speaker 3>just paid for their expenses in not first class airfare.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you not go ahead and pay the players

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<v Speaker 3>to be there at an event like this to even

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<v Speaker 3>generate bigger TV ratings. I don't quite get it. They

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<v Speaker 3>gave me first class tickets, Yes, you got a good agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you get paid? No, but pay the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Pay the guys. But the biggest story of the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>in Brian, you hit it right on the head. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the quarterback situation. And that's really good

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<v Speaker 3>for the Jaguars because if all of a sudden, at

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen they've had six quarterbacks to get drafted ahead of them,

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to push a boatload of talent down to

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<v Speaker 3>them where they're going to have the pick of the litter. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's six or five or whatever that number is,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact is is that it will be at least four.

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<v Speaker 3>In my p could be six, which would give the

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars a lot of options at seventeen. Well, the key.

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<v Speaker 6>Player there is Pennix going to the Raiders, because if

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<v Speaker 6>he goes there at thirteen, it means one of those

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<v Speaker 6>corners is likely to slide through or probably both because

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<v Speaker 6>there is a huge swell for the edge rusher. Latu

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<v Speaker 6>from UCLA another guy that I spent some time with yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>Huge personality, a great story overcoming the neck injury, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, talking to Charles Davis yesterday says clearly the

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<v Speaker 6>best pass rusher with the most moves in the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Love them, love law too. Of course you do, and

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<v Speaker 3>we've heard that for weeks on this program. Final thought, Ry,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think tonight? What do you want tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want an offensive lineman. You know you've got

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<v Speaker 1>two tacks.

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<v Speaker 6>Off of their contracts. And Tony listen and Jeff, you

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<v Speaker 6>look at these drafts very carefully. This is the best

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<v Speaker 6>offensive line draft, at least at the top, that I've

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<v Speaker 6>seen in my thirty years covering the draft. There are

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<v Speaker 6>at least ten guys that belong in the first round.

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<v Speaker 6>And it doesn't matter whether you're talking about tackle or

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<v Speaker 6>guard or center. I love the kid from Washington, Troy

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<v Speaker 6>Oh not to I think I've got that right.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to say it really slow.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got a guy you talk about, guy with tremendous

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<v Speaker 6>ability to play all over. I had one guy in

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<v Speaker 6>Dallas tell me that he believes he's Zack Martin. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>you were alluding to the fact that last year at

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<v Speaker 6>the point of attack, we were so ineffective at converting

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<v Speaker 6>third down. In short, who doesn't need Zack Martin. I

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<v Speaker 6>would love to see that kid show up in Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 6>But it just looks like the convergence of need and

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<v Speaker 6>value is going to be a corner.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's a guard.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't care that phone other kid. That's the

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<v Speaker 5>type of guy good who moves people. He's a big board.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't have the length for a tackle though, but he's athlete.

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<v Speaker 7>Why.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a tough dude. And Brian, I'm with you whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's the tackle.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got a thirty four inch arm, seventy seven inch

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<v Speaker 6>wing span. He no, I think he's got enough link

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<v Speaker 6>to play. But but my here's here's what I know.

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<v Speaker 6>He won the Morris Award and Tony who gets the

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<v Speaker 6>Morris Award.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year best offensive lineman in the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that he was the last winner of it up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I did, Brian to your point.

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<v Speaker 3>I led you to that one.

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<v Speaker 2>But it works perfect. I go. I'm with Brian. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a big bands game.

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<v Speaker 5>You can have all the skills and I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 5>we don't need corner and everything else like this, but

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<v Speaker 5>this is one thing I know. If you control the

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<v Speaker 5>liner scrimmers on offense, boy, the receivers are better, the

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<v Speaker 5>running backs better, your quarterbacks better, and if you can

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<v Speaker 5>control the liner scrimmers on defense hit the quarterback, those

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<v Speaker 5>corners get really.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, really good. Hi, Brian, thanks for the reporting from Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk to you in a pre draft show at

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<v Speaker 3>seven thirty a little bit later tonight. Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Sexton joining us from Draft Central and Detroit, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Plenty ahead, we'll come back and discuss Trent Balke's trade

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<v Speaker 3>He brooks in about ten minutes or so from Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen his name all over NFL network with his

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<v Speaker 3>top five position rankings and mock drafts, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 3>his final thoughts ahead of this draft in about ten

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<v Speaker 3>minutes time we mentioned it going into the break. So

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<v Speaker 3>Trim Balky, of course has been the general manager in

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco and now in Jacksonville. He took over the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ten San Francisco draft very late in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>The GM was out, he had to move in. He

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<v Speaker 3>actually made the picks in twenty ten there became the

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<v Speaker 3>GM officially I think right after maybe a week before

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<v Speaker 3>the draft. So he was involved from twenty ten to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen in San Francisco and of course twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>through twenty three and this year in Jacksonville. Four times

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<v Speaker 3>Balky has traded up involving first round picks twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thirteen, twenty sixteen with San fan and twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>with the Jaguars that was up from the second round

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<v Speaker 3>to get Devin Lloyd. Three times. He's traded down involving

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<v Speaker 3>first round picks. Twenty fifteen traded two spots down to

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<v Speaker 3>get Eric Armstead of all people, and then last year

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<v Speaker 3>did it twice in the first round and ended up

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<v Speaker 3>with Anton Harrison. Twenty seven total end draft trades in

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<v Speaker 3>his career as a general manager in ten previous drafts,

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<v Speaker 3>so especially on Day's two and three. He's not afraid

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<v Speaker 3>to move if the value's there. Well, and the lesson

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<v Speaker 3>to be learned, because you know there's some names associated

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<v Speaker 3>with those trades, whether it be upper down, is that

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<v Speaker 3>when he traded up, he didn't do so good if

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the value. Anthony Davis was an offensive

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<v Speaker 3>tackle that didn't last very long in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Reid defensive back was okay, yeah, I was a

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<v Speaker 3>good player, but I mean to trade up from thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one to eighteen, that's an expensive price to pay and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that was the value. And then Joshua Garnett,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know who he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, no clue.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't either. But then you look at the trade downs,

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<v Speaker 3>which is Eric Armstead, great pick, great pick, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Anton Harrison, I think a really good player, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So the lesson there is and he said this at

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<v Speaker 3>the draft press conference. He said that, look, the analytics

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<v Speaker 3>will tell you that the value is not there if

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to trade up, and so, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't look to trade up ever, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>unless you're trying to get a franchise quarterback. That's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be the exception, all bet're of.

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<v Speaker 5>The only way I trade up is if there's a

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<v Speaker 5>guy that you think is an all Pro type player, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>for instance, if you hadn't need a big need for

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<v Speaker 5>an offensive tackle and you felt like Alt from Notre

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<v Speaker 5>Dame was a future you know, multiple time Pro bowler,

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<v Speaker 5>All Pro type player, Okay, you go trade up for

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<v Speaker 5>a premium position, which left tackle is or a premium

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<v Speaker 5>pass rusher that you think is gonna be you know

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<v Speaker 5>Nick Boso or you know Garrett or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>But those are rarities, like you have to really be

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<v Speaker 5>in the right position, and don't we always think that

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<v Speaker 5>when you draft them. No, but there's certain guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's certain guys.

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<v Speaker 3>That but it's a percentage game.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's what I'm saying. That is the exception.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like obviously franchise quarterback would be one as well,

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<v Speaker 5>But most of the time, the difference between like.

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<v Speaker 2>This this is a good wide receiver class. You know, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Difference between Harrison and the third or fourth neighbors and

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<v Speaker 5>you know the kid from Washington Doonza. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 5>one someone's gonna be better than the others, but is

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<v Speaker 5>your betting and you're projecting looking forward if you can

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<v Speaker 5>get the third rated guy where you said, is it

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<v Speaker 5>worth jumping up to go get that first rate of guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Great point, you know, I mean that's the that's for me.

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<v Speaker 3>The draft. Get as many picks as you possibly can,

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<v Speaker 3>especially because it's not a science. It is not a science,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's it's a percentage ga. I mean, I remember

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<v Speaker 3>a few years back, Chris Poullian was working with the

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars in the role of assistant general manager at one point,

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<v Speaker 3>and his dad, Hall of famer Bill Pollion, and Bill

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<v Speaker 3>Poullion essentially built two franchises and took them to Super Bowls,

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<v Speaker 3>the Buffalo Bills and then the Indianapolis Colts with the

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<v Speaker 3>Panthers before that, and the Carolina Panthers. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 3>is Hall of Fame guy, Hall of Fame executive, Hall

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<v Speaker 3>of fame guy, super nice guy. And i'mber masking Bill,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, Bill, I said, with the draft, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>if there was one thing that you would teach a

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<v Speaker 3>young guy to really learn and accept about the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, you know, they've got to learn to accept

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<v Speaker 3>number one, that it's a percentage game, because if you

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<v Speaker 3>really believe kind of that mindset. Oh, this guy's a

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Famer pro bowler. Da da da da da.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you know the chances it's a percentage chance

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, you're trying to forecast a player into

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<v Speaker 3>a league that he has not played in. So he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to be careful there, He said, So you

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<v Speaker 3>have to understand that it's a percentages game, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you also have to be willing to admit a mistake

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<v Speaker 3>so that you don't continue to make mistakes by propping

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<v Speaker 3>up a pick that you've had in the past. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I thought it was very revealing.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff.

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<v Speaker 5>The second comment you made, I think is the difference

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<v Speaker 5>between average and great gyms. I think great front office

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<v Speaker 5>leaders have the confidence, conviction, and just the overall ability

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<v Speaker 5>to admit mistakes. Humility, I think is the right word

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<v Speaker 5>to admit a mistake, not double down and move on.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think a lot of times where you see

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<v Speaker 5>the teams kind of getting this cycle of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like a hamster on the wheel not really making any progress,

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<v Speaker 5>is unwilling to admit a mistake. It's like, oh, let's

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<v Speaker 5>move on. I don't care where I drafted that guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care how that makes me. Look, we have

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<v Speaker 5>to get better there and let's go move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Prime example of that is San Francisco at the quarterback position,

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<v Speaker 3>a great a few years right. It's a great example,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think they're the perfect example of a team

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's doing things the right way and willing to

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<v Speaker 3>admit mistakes. You know, you compare their situation at quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>with the Jaguars situation a few years ago where you

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<v Speaker 3>had Blake Bortles and love Blake, but you ended up

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<v Speaker 3>passing up on franchise quarterbacks and drafts because you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to prop Blake Bortles up, and then once you released him,

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<v Speaker 3>then you brought in Nick Foles and then you thought

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<v Speaker 3>Gardner Minshew was gonna be the guy. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 3>you ended up kind of losing opportunities on a Lamar

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson and Patrick Mahomes for this franchise that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you understood that the draft was a percentage is

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<v Speaker 3>game and you could understand what was staring.

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<v Speaker 5>You up and understand you made a mistake, okay, And

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<v Speaker 5>it's okay because it's everyone makes I had an owner

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<v Speaker 5>I was talking to an owner this year and I

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<v Speaker 5>won't say which one, but he said, listen, I'm less

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<v Speaker 5>worried about if my gym and coach cut a high

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<v Speaker 5>pick as long as they're going to the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 5>compete in the super Bowl. Because the draft it's a

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<v Speaker 5>it's a crapshoot. It's like, you get some right, you

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<v Speaker 5>get some wrong. The best of them do.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the percentages are higher the higher the pick is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, and if you understand that, you're good plenty ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you'll be out there right.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be on stage quite a few times tonight, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>talking to Doug Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we got a couple legends up there.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Leam Cercy, Paul Pols, Leslie yeh, and Josh

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<v Speaker 5>Goby so kay and I will be doing a little

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<v Speaker 5>round table.

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<v Speaker 3>Tooby's like down that list a little bit, like I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 5>Gooby be all time leader, best kicker in Jaguars history,

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<v Speaker 5>all time point leader.

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<v Speaker 3>Scoby was third place in the Baselli Golf Tournament the

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<v Speaker 3>other way. Yeah you know who was second place? You? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but cheat that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>First, Well, it's because he had a bunch of ringers

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<v Speaker 5>on his team.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave him a good team.

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<v Speaker 3>I made Bertie put some last two holes to get

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<v Speaker 3>us in the second strokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do anything to get the ball on the green?

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<v Speaker 3>I did one time, one time to get into it

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<v Speaker 3>right now, but I contributed.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody shot true.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to say I beat Scoby. That was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good one. By the way, it was fair the

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<v Speaker 3>one on one he would crush. It wasn't one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was team golf we won.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Gooby is the best golfer that wore the teal

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<v Speaker 3>in black?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Christian Kirk's pretty good right now. Okay, and Kirk is

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<v Speaker 5>a good player, very good player. But Scoby he shot

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<v Speaker 5>like sixty four. Come on, like he's a good like

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<v Speaker 5>he's a legitimate stick.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to do that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah right, but he did it on eighteen holes,

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<v Speaker 2>not not.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, let's go to Los Angeles, California. Welcome in NFL

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<v Speaker 3>network analysts, Jaguars media analysts, and our good friend Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 3>It is finally here, Bucky, at long last, all your

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<v Speaker 3>mock drafts, all your position rankings, all that can go

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<v Speaker 3>out the window starting tonight at eight o'clock. Good evening.

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<v Speaker 4>What's up, guys, how's everything?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm Bucky excited to we're doing all these mid drafts

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<v Speaker 7>and see where we're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 5>Bucky, how many mock drafts did you do leading up

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<v Speaker 5>to tonight?

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<v Speaker 7>I did four, and it was really really challenging to

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<v Speaker 7>kind of put the names in order to guess and speculate.

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<v Speaker 7>And even now hear in your conversation about the offensive tackles,

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's really interesting to see what teams are

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<v Speaker 7>going to decide because the two strongest positions in the

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<v Speaker 7>draft are offensive tackle and wide receiver. And normally when

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<v Speaker 7>that happens, the demand supply and demand, you typically go

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<v Speaker 7>to the premium position, which would be offensive tackles.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would expect the offensive tackles to fly off

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<v Speaker 4>the board first.

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<v Speaker 7>Then the wide receivers will probably fall into the second

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<v Speaker 7>round where we see a bunch of wide receivers go.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think you'll see as many wide receivers go

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<v Speaker 7>as many.

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<v Speaker 3>Speculating, Bucky, everybody seems to think that Joe Allt is

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<v Speaker 3>the best tackle, and after watching some of these guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I would agree, give me your next best two offensive

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<v Speaker 3>tackles that are in this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, like it's so interesting because it kind of

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<v Speaker 7>depends on what you're looking for. If you won't like

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<v Speaker 7>the bully on the block, like to least Longer from

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<v Speaker 7>Oregon State is one of those that kind of fits

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<v Speaker 7>the kid from Washington that you guys we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>He's probably one of the more versatile ones.

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<v Speaker 7>Can play anywhere on the line, can play outside or inside.

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<v Speaker 4>He gives you kind of what you want.

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<v Speaker 7>Olufashanu is probably the most talented of them all, but

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<v Speaker 7>he also has maybe the most development to do to be.

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<v Speaker 4>An elite premier left tackle.

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<v Speaker 7>JC Latham is a natural right tackle who's a Mala

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<v Speaker 7>brother at the point of attack. And then Amarius Memes

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<v Speaker 7>is just a junkyard dog. I mean, he is big,

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<v Speaker 7>he's physical, but he's only played like eight or nine

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<v Speaker 7>games in college, so you don't know where he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be when he gets to the big boy league.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, it's a very talented class.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the last two guys that you mentioned, Latham and Memes.

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<v Speaker 3>Watching the film on those guys, and I know that

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<v Speaker 3>Mems hasn't played very much and you had to watch

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of film to actually see him play, But

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<v Speaker 3>watching those two guys, they just make the position look

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<v Speaker 3>effortless like this guy used to do buck In. And

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<v Speaker 3>the crazy thing is is that they were right tackles.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean I still see those guys as being

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<v Speaker 3>premier talents. I mean, if the Jaguars are looking to

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<v Speaker 3>trade down one of those two guys, I would love

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<v Speaker 3>to see them until Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if you're gonna be able to trade

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<v Speaker 7>down and hope that one of those guys get to you,

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<v Speaker 7>because where the Jaguars are at, there's a bit of

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<v Speaker 7>it in Ali where you can see teams that go

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<v Speaker 7>Pittsburgh can take a tackle at twenty. Miami is gonna

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<v Speaker 7>take an offensive line and it's probably gonna be a center,

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<v Speaker 7>but you just never know it's gonna They have to

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<v Speaker 7>fix their offensive line. So you have to be careful

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<v Speaker 7>if you're Jacksonville trying to be cute and not just

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<v Speaker 7>taking a player that is right there sitting in front

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<v Speaker 7>of you. The guys that you mentioned JC Latham and

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<v Speaker 7>Marius Mams, they could be there, but there's some conversation

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<v Speaker 7>that jac Latham could be a ten pick. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>we just don't know because but the tackle class, it's

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<v Speaker 7>like going to the ice cream shop.

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<v Speaker 4>And trying to figure out which flavor you like, but.

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<v Speaker 5>Unworthy Bucky just sticking on the tackles just for a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit longer. You know, a guy like all Ready Made,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean films, you know, size all the things you want.

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<v Speaker 5>Premiere program played against top talent. Which of the guys, though,

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<v Speaker 5>do you think has the most upside? Because just because

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<v Speaker 5>that individual played at a high level in college, as

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<v Speaker 5>you know, sometimes those guys are capped out and they'll

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<v Speaker 5>be good pros. And I'm sure all It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>very good pro and I'm not saying he is capped

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<v Speaker 5>out at all. But who of the girl, as you

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<v Speaker 5>just mentioned, who's the flyer that you might take and say,

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<v Speaker 5>because this guy has extreme upside.

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<v Speaker 4>So if we're talking about upside, normally the upside is due.

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<v Speaker 7>To their athleticism, right, they're super athletic, but maybe they

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<v Speaker 7>haven't put all the skills together when it comes to performance,

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<v Speaker 7>I would say that it would be either Memes or Fashanu,

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<v Speaker 7>and then you can throw in Lathan because they all

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<v Speaker 7>are still kind of figuring it out while dominating people

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<v Speaker 7>with their sheer talent.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Memes just because Mems only has.

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<v Speaker 7>Like eight or nine Games of film and he is

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<v Speaker 7>huge and you know he played at a winning program.

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<v Speaker 7>If you know anything about Georgia, they talk about BLO Tuesdays.

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<v Speaker 7>But he put the pads on and basically let the

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<v Speaker 7>ones play against the ones all day. I think he

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<v Speaker 7>has the ability to get really, really better as he

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<v Speaker 7>gains more.

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<v Speaker 4>Experience, and the rest are really going to help him

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<v Speaker 4>at the next level.

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<v Speaker 3>Bucky Brooks with us from Los Angeles, California, NFL Network

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars media analysts. Let's flip it around now, Bucky to

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<v Speaker 3>the cornerback position. This is one that has been mocked

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<v Speaker 3>to the Jaguars, I think more than any other in

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<v Speaker 3>this first round, at seventeenth or overall. Is that I

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<v Speaker 3>know in your mocks at least you've had that position.

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<v Speaker 3>There is that still the feel for you? And what

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<v Speaker 3>kind of window can you can you find at seventeen, two, three,

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<v Speaker 3>four guys that could be there?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, look, I mean a lot of it really just

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<v Speaker 7>depends on what do the Jaguars want to do.

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<v Speaker 4>What do they prioritize.

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<v Speaker 7>Do they prioritize get in the defense of the snub

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<v Speaker 7>where the defense can be a top ten defense, or

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<v Speaker 7>do they want to put all their chips in and

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<v Speaker 7>go say, hey, we're going to have an elite offense

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<v Speaker 7>and we're going to outscore people and then play defense

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<v Speaker 7>always with the lead. I would say that if they

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<v Speaker 7>go cornerback Terran Arnold is gonna be sitting there right

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<v Speaker 7>in their face at seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing about Arnold is Arnold is versatile.

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 7>He can play outside, he can play inside high IQ

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 7>player does a really good job of being nose to

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<v Speaker 7>nose in press coverage. But he can play off and

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<v Speaker 7>I think when you hear Ryan Nelson talk about how

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<v Speaker 7>he wants to play and how they want to play,

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 7>they want to look.

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<v Speaker 4>They said nothing cheap and nothing deep.

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<v Speaker 7>So they want to take away the layups, meaning don't

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<v Speaker 7>want to give up the bubble screens and the quick

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<v Speaker 7>routes that you give up when you normally back off

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<v Speaker 7>of wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you want to have.

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<v Speaker 7>Enough awareness to make sure that you always play top down,

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<v Speaker 7>very similar to how Arnold was asked to play in Alabama.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he'll be fine there. Nate Wiggins is the

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<v Speaker 4>next one that likely come off the board.

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<v Speaker 7>Nate Wiggins is fast, He's ran for see you at

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<v Speaker 7>the combine He's super athletic, easy mover when it comes

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<v Speaker 7>to turns and transitions. The one thing about Nate Wiggins

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<v Speaker 7>is Nate Wiggins isn't a super physical guy, and he's

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<v Speaker 7>not a great tackler. And I think in our league now,

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<v Speaker 7>if you can't tackle, you're gonna have a hard time

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<v Speaker 7>being able to stay on the field because you become

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<v Speaker 7>a bit of a liability.

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<v Speaker 4>Can he become a better tackler.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe sometimes peer pressure can kind of make guys kind

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<v Speaker 7>of stick their nose in, But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's super talented.

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<v Speaker 7>He's one of the best athletes that you will find

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<v Speaker 7>on the field. This guy has the potential to be

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<v Speaker 7>a lockdown corner on the perimeter. The other names that

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<v Speaker 7>we'll mention, Koley McKinstry is intriguing. He and Arnold obviously

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<v Speaker 7>play in the same system. He was to cast me out.

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<v Speaker 7>Arnold have passed him this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Based on play, But Koley McKinstry is a really good player.

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<v Speaker 4>High IQ can play a.

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<v Speaker 7>Bunch of different techniques, understands how to play the game

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<v Speaker 7>the right way, and all those guys are gonna be

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<v Speaker 7>good teammates. And then the last one and maybe one

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<v Speaker 7>of the guys that is really intriguing to me is

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<v Speaker 7>Cooper Dejene from Iowa. The reason Cooper Degene is intriguing

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<v Speaker 7>is because everyone's gonna try and kick him inside and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>he's a nickel, he's a safety in those things. But

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<v Speaker 7>if you really dig down and do the research, this

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<v Speaker 7>is the premier track athlete when he was in high

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<v Speaker 7>school that Iowa. He has played outside and played really

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<v Speaker 7>really well. Super smart, very active, and productive. Also gives

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<v Speaker 7>you something in the return game if you need it.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the Swiss Army knife that everyone kind of

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<v Speaker 7>wants in that defensive lineup. Is just are you willing

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<v Speaker 7>to pull a trigger and do you have a plan

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<v Speaker 7>to get him on.

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<v Speaker 4>The field and allow him to do all the special

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<v Speaker 4>things that he can do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the hard part I think with some of

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<v Speaker 3>these top corners that you're talking about is that not

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot of them played pressman. And you know, every

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 3>coach in the National Football League wants to have a

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<v Speaker 3>corner that can play press man. You know, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>way that you can end up doing other things on

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<v Speaker 3>the other side to be a little bit more creative.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would totally agree with you Bucky about Wiggins

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<v Speaker 3>about he's not very physical at the point, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a big believer that you can't coach physicality. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if he's a good fit. But it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be interesting to see because it's we talked about

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<v Speaker 3>the draft and everything is a percentage game, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>forecasting and it's kind of projecting. Man this corner position,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of projecting going on just because of

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<v Speaker 3>the style of play that these top corners played in college.

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<v Speaker 7>So because of that, we talked about playing the percentages. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 7>I think this is a year where you have to

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<v Speaker 7>double down in a position. This is a year where

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<v Speaker 7>you may need to take two. And let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a judge the draft. I'm a great to draft

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<v Speaker 7>based on the first three rounds because those are the

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<v Speaker 7>guys that typically comprise your team. Anything that you get

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<v Speaker 7>four through seven is bonus. So to me, given how

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<v Speaker 7>the style of play is going to be drafted different

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<v Speaker 7>than it's been in the past, I think you need

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<v Speaker 7>to invest in the position and kind of get two

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<v Speaker 7>of them. And so we just talked about those four

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<v Speaker 7>at the top. Maybe in the second or the third round,

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<v Speaker 7>you have to begin to think about some other names.

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<v Speaker 7>So if we're talking about in the second round, Max

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<v Speaker 7>Milton from Rutgers is someone that's of interest. Kamari Lassiter

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<v Speaker 7>from Georgia is another player that could kind of be

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<v Speaker 7>in that. If you're talking about a pure nickel corner,

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<v Speaker 7>Mikey Sanstril from Michigan is in play.

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<v Speaker 4>In the third round. You can hear names like TJ. Tampa.

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<v Speaker 7>You can hear Ronaldo Green from Florida State. So there's

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<v Speaker 7>some guys that can come in and play. But I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think the Jaguars can mess around and think that

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<v Speaker 7>they're gonna solve their issue by getting a guy in

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<v Speaker 7>the fifth, sixth, or seventh round. I think you have

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<v Speaker 7>to really invest in position if you're gonna play as

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<v Speaker 7>much pressman coverage that the defensive coordinator Ryan Nilson has

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<v Speaker 7>been talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Buck, you talked about doubling down on a position group.

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<v Speaker 5>What's your thoughts on it? And I'm gonna go back

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<v Speaker 5>to where we started this on the offensive line, because

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<v Speaker 5>I think we all talked about last year that this

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<v Speaker 5>Jaguar offensive line had to get bigger, get more physical

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<v Speaker 5>if they wanted to play the style that they were

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<v Speaker 5>trying to play last year. This is a deep draft

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<v Speaker 5>at the offensive line. Is this a year that if

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<v Speaker 5>you really wanted to go remake and rebuild that offensive line,

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<v Speaker 5>that you could in the first three rounds with this

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<v Speaker 5>offensive line class.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, but you got to be committed to doing it

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 7>and you have to be willing to take the slings

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 7>and arrows that may come from the people that are saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>you need to get a wide receiver early.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, we need to get this.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're going to be a team that really wants

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<v Speaker 7>to play and control the line of scrimmage, you got

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<v Speaker 7>invested in and you got invest in it every year.

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<v Speaker 7>And so if it's an offensive tackle in the first round,

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 7>it's coming back getting the guard in the second round, then.

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<v Speaker 4>You do that.

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<v Speaker 7>It really depends on how the Jaguars view the strength

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 7>of their team and how they want the strength of

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 7>the team to be. Meaning do you want to be

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 7>an offensive team do you want to be a defensive team?

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 7>Because if there's an offensive team, then you load up

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 7>on offense. You make sure that sixteen has everything that

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 7>he needs. He's protected in the passing game, you can

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 7>run the football effectively, and you have enough weapons on

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 7>the outside to allow him to do his thing.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 4>And there's nothing wrong with that. We've seen teams do it.

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 4>You guys were talking about billpollon bi.

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<v Speaker 7>Opoleon, two Super Bowl contenders in Buffalo and Indianapolis playing

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 7>that way. It really is about the commitment that the

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 7>team has to make and this is who we are,

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<v Speaker 7>this is going to be, and then the draft picks

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<v Speaker 7>have to follow that philosopher.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Bucky sold the wide receiver position. Not many

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 3>people believe that that would be the seventeenth overall pick,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 3>but you never know. If you were pick ain't at seventeen.

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Give me a couple names that may be available that

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<v Speaker 3>you would be interested in.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm be honest with you, Like I know people talk

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 7>about the wide receiver position at seventeen. The only guy

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<v Speaker 7>that I would be comfortable taking would be Brian Thomas

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 7>Junior from LSU. The rest of the wide receivers that

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 7>we're talking about, ad Mitchell's, Xavier Worthy, Xavier lok Get,

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 7>anybody that we put in there. To me, they're more

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 7>top of the second round type talents, which is fine,

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 7>But what that means is those guys are solid starters.

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 4>But I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>Anticipate them being superstars at seventeen. Brian Thomas, to me,

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<v Speaker 7>is the only one. If it's not one of the

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 7>big three, then it has to be him. And I

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 7>would say the difference between Brian Thomas and some of

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 7>those other guys big.

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Fast and physical, super talented.

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 7>When you talk to the LSU coaches, they say, Man,

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 7>he's as gifted of wide receiver as we've seen come

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 7>through these doors. Last year, the light came on and

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 7>he played to his talents, and so you've got to

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.720
<v Speaker 7>continue to be on him to maximize.

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 4>The talent that he has. But he's a guy that's worthy.

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 7>If you really ask me whether the sweet spot should be,

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 7>it should be offensive tackle or corner. At seventeen, your

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 7>wide receiver should come in the second round. When you're

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 7>picking forty eight, I think forty eight is going to

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 7>put you in a position to get the players that

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 7>I think are best fits for what they have.

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Ricky Piarsoll would be really intriguing to me. Roman Wilson

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 4>would be really intriguing to me.

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 7>And I'm saying this based on what was lacking I

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 7>guess last year in terms of like where did it

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 7>go wrong when we had all the injuries. I think

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 7>Doug Peterson has made a concerted effort to say I

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 7>want professional high AQ players that can be interchangeable and

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 7>when it comes to playing multiple spots, that are reliable, dependable,

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 7>and consistent. And so to me, Ricky pearsoll fits the bill.

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 7>Lat mcconacky if he's there, he fits the bill. You

0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 7>want someone that when you call the play, all the

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 7>things are gonna be a lot depend they can be

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 7>exactly where they need to be so the quarterback can

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 7>have the trust to let the ball go. So to me,

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 7>it has to be that they don't need a high

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 7>end number one. They need consistent, reliable pass catches that

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 7>can get open and be exactly where they need to be.

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 4>Each and every down.

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 3>And love Lat McConkie, the Georgia wide receiver. And the

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 3>one position we really haven't mentioned because we kind of

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 3>started this show about this team getting more physical on

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 3>the offensive and defensive lines, Buckey the defensive tackle position.

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 3>In this draft, when you look at the top two guys,

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 3>one in Illinois the other at Texas, they're good football players,

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 3>but they don't have a lot of length. That's gotta

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I think affect them in this draft, doesn't it.

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.879
<v Speaker 7>I think Brian Murphy's gonna go within the top ten.

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 7>I think the sweet spot for him might be eight

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 7>to the Atlanta Falcons. Johnny Newton could be sitting there

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 7>because he can go anywhere in their first round range.

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 7>He could be there for us at seventeen. He could

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 7>go later in the bottom.

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Of the first round. And then there's a bit of

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 4>a drop off. And so the defensive tackle position.

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.919
<v Speaker 7>Is one that you really have to have like an

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 7>eye on when.

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 4>The run goes on.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 7>Like those defensive players just saying this year, maybe only

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 7>eleven or twelve defensive players going the first round. So

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:12.879
<v Speaker 7>somewhere in the second round is gonna flip and there's

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 7>going to be a run on defensive players. Two guys

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<v Speaker 7>to watch if you're talking about Jacksonville Brydon Fist from Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>State by way of Western Michigan.

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<v Speaker 7>Look active, high motive player, physical athletic, look man. He

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<v Speaker 7>is an all day sucker. The motor runs hot from

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<v Speaker 7>the beginning of your game to the end of game.

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<v Speaker 7>You love that part of it. Brandon Dorleas from Oregon

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<v Speaker 7>another player that can come inside, physical, super athletic on tape.

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<v Speaker 7>You see those guys run to the ball, they hustle,

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<v Speaker 7>they play at a high level. To me, those are

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<v Speaker 7>the guys because it's a huge drop off when it

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<v Speaker 7>comes to defensive tackles. Maybe four or five guys that

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<v Speaker 7>you feel really good about after that you kind of

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<v Speaker 7>throwing darts. They are edge rushers that are available, but

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<v Speaker 7>some of those guys are more situational players, not guys

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<v Speaker 7>that I will say are every down guys that are

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<v Speaker 7>gonna be stars outside of the top three. Day when

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<v Speaker 7>we talked about Dallas Turner, Leatu Latu and Jared Vers

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<v Speaker 7>from Florida State.

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<v Speaker 3>Bucky Brooks, NFL Network, Jaguars Media fifteen seconds. Bucky, what

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<v Speaker 3>is your pick?

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<v Speaker 4>They gonna take one to Corners.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it'd end up being tearing on or to

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<v Speaker 7>the Quinna and Mitchell one of those guys if they're available.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks a lot, Bucky joining us from Lost Yeah, Bucky

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<v Speaker 3>Brooks from Los Angeles. We're back with our final thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>J P.

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<v Speaker 3>Shadwick with Jefflagoman Hall of Famer Tony Boselli the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four NFL Draft. We're closing in about three hours

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<v Speaker 3>and seven minutes until they at least started, and then

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<v Speaker 3>probably another ten minutes until the pick, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>guess the Jags will pick. What ten o'clock issue.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, if everyone takes ten minutes, which they

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<v Speaker 5>never all take ten minutes, it's one hundred and seventy minutes,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's almost two hours and forty five minutes after

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<v Speaker 5>it starts.

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<v Speaker 2>So if that's the case, we'll be closer to eleven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you do the mask.

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<v Speaker 5>But usually there's always a couple of teams that you

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<v Speaker 5>know are quick on the draw, and you go, it

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<v Speaker 5>goes quicker.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope there's a few teams that are quick on

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<v Speaker 3>the draw.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope sixteen teams are quick on the draw.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you remember, go back to the day back

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<v Speaker 3>when they gave him more time than the team. It

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<v Speaker 3>was and it was painfully slow, and then finally because

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<v Speaker 3>of TV, they said, all look we got to make

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<v Speaker 3>this thing move along a little bit. I think they

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<v Speaker 3>could even make it move along a little bit better

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<v Speaker 3>and shorten.

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<v Speaker 2>They make it like seven minutes or yeah, yeah, make

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<v Speaker 2>it seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember good number.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember the at the draft in ninety five that

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<v Speaker 5>you said I did not have to wait very long,

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<v Speaker 5>which you're correct, only second pick, but going in was

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<v Speaker 5>the first pick by the way carrier Collins John Carteret's right.

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<v Speaker 5>But going into the half, Tom had told me, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>three weeks before, it's like, we're picking you. They called

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<v Speaker 5>me night before, I mean, unless the Bengals picked me

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<v Speaker 5>instead of Caujohn. I was going to Jacksonville, and I

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<v Speaker 5>thought that's what I thought. So John gets picked in

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<v Speaker 5>like two minutes, I'm like, okay, good, it's me done.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom waited eleven and a half minutes before he picked

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<v Speaker 5>up the phone to call me and say it's a pick.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, what were you waiting for? Like I thought

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<v Speaker 5>this was a done deal. And to this day he

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<v Speaker 5>just he just enjoyed the fact that I had to

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<v Speaker 5>sit there for that long he wait. I think he

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<v Speaker 5>did it just on purpose, just to well. I think

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<v Speaker 5>he used Jeff. I think he used Jeff's strategy marketing strategy.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember every year, all the time on the clock, and

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<v Speaker 5>Jeff says the same thing, like selling.

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<v Speaker 2>If he was a good GM, he'd be like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>taking all ten minutes. Our logo is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the free exposure.

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<v Speaker 3>We're selling jerseys, selling Jersey's b By the way, do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm responsible for the Jaguars drafting him?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you really? I am? I can't wait to hear this.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want to hear the story they were I'll

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<v Speaker 5>tell you real quick. They're either going to take a

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<v Speaker 5>tackle in the draft, which they did in a free

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<v Speaker 5>agent d n or get it would have been, or

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<v Speaker 5>a free agent tackle which had been his teammate Griswold,

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<v Speaker 5>and then take a defensive end, probably been Kevin Carter.

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Carter.

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<v Speaker 5>With the pick and they chose that this is left

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<v Speaker 5>or so you're stuck with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff and I might be the opposite.

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<v Speaker 5>They might have decided they were taking me and then

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<v Speaker 5>they went after Jeff and free agency, so I might

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<v Speaker 5>be responding.

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<v Speaker 3>Strike. By the way, Criswell just went into the Graceland

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<v Speaker 3>College Hall of Fame. Uh, I mean, how many people

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<v Speaker 3>do you know that played at Graceland and played in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL and had a successful one.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a good player.

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<v Speaker 3>He just didn't like playing Bruce Smith, who did not many.

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<v Speaker 3>Tony did not many did a couple of minutes left.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your pick?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, look, I don't like to make predictions. Pick

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<v Speaker 3>a really good player. Come on, a really good player.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, do you want me to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Tony please.

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<v Speaker 2>I would pick an offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they pick a corner, and one of the

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<v Speaker 5>corners that Bucky said, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 5>Arnold, Arnold's I mean, one of those guys they're gonna take.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's where they go. I think that's where

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<v Speaker 5>all the smoke is right now. I think there is

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<v Speaker 5>fire there. I would take an offensive lineman. I would

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<v Speaker 5>actually this would be the draft because of the depth

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<v Speaker 5>and the talent. I would double down on that position.

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<v Speaker 5>I would build a world class offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>In front of Trevor.

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<v Speaker 3>Lawrence, I don't I don't have anything against what he says,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Not taking away anything in the group of guys here,

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<v Speaker 5>but it is what it is. I mean, where we

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<v Speaker 5>are as an organization, and especially if you're about to

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<v Speaker 5>resign or extend the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point you're paying fifty million bucks, go build

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<v Speaker 2>that line.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's why I have a hard time saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>here's who I'm gonna pick. I mean, they're they're picking

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<v Speaker 3>at seventeen. They're not picking at one, two or three.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who's available, you know, I mean it is

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<v Speaker 3>is a lot to there, which you know I love him?

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<v Speaker 3>Would I love him?

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<v Speaker 2>I Mean?

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing that he's got a negative wise is

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<v Speaker 3>that he had a neck issue. But he's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the best pass rushers that I've watched in the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched him because my son Law played against him

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<v Speaker 5>last year and he's a good.

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<v Speaker 3>He makes it look effortless good. He's better than Verse

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<v Speaker 3>and better than Dallas Turner and Alabama, who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have a lot of size to him, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>out first physical guy, really physical and loved the guy

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<v Speaker 3>Fisk that Bucky was talking about, by the way, round

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<v Speaker 3>go back and watch some Florida State film. Look for

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<v Speaker 3>number fifty five. That guy can play really and play

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<v Speaker 3>play well. The one guy I think that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>drop in this draft is the Flonga tackle from Oregon State.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe he's got the feat to play or

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<v Speaker 3>to be drafted. Real high gates open tonight at EverBank

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<v Speaker 3>Stadium seven o'clock. The end. Stadium show begins with Ky

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<v Speaker 3>Stevens about seven point fifteen seven point thirty pre draft

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