WEBVTT - Andy Levy & Gov. Andy Beshear

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds. And in Trump's first one hundred days,

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<v Speaker 1>the word Biden was his fifth most frequently used, According

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<v Speaker 1>to a Time analysis of transcripts of Trump's public remarks,

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<v Speaker 1>we have such a great show.

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<v Speaker 2>For you today.

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<v Speaker 1>As the world churns, host Andy Levy stops by to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Trump's meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Carney and

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's complete inability to understand how trade works. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>will talk to Kentucky Governor Andy Burscher about how to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver to your constituents and help their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>But first the news Somali.

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<v Speaker 3>Some things in this world they're not for sale, and

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<v Speaker 3>apparently one of them is Canada, because mister Mark Carney

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<v Speaker 3>told that that Trump today and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>were saying he may not have the Riz of Justin

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<v Speaker 3>Trudeau to stand up to him, But I have to

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<v Speaker 3>say I think he did a good job today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm glad you got Riz in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Listens, kids, Yes, my kids actually abanned me from saying

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<v Speaker 1>the word rez. One of the ways in which we

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<v Speaker 1>upset them is when my husband says, your mother has riz.

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<v Speaker 2>That gets them very upset.

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<v Speaker 3>How do they feel about you dressing chugi?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what chugi means. We'll talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting Is it fat? Is cheugy fat?

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you might want it. We've just come off

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<v Speaker 1>the raist. Canada is not for sale. Let's just talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this for a minute. So one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>Trump invites the press in. He talks the press. He

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talks back and forth. This was like the

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<v Speaker 1>second time he's met Carney. Carney, he really did antagonize Trudeau.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole fifty first day thing was meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a way of antagonizing Trudeau. Now, Carney is

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<v Speaker 1>like the dream politician for this moment. If I were Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be my dream. He has managed Brexit, he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to try to manage Brexit. He's a free trader,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an economist, and he's been able to handle living

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<v Speaker 1>over a crackhouse, which is what Canada is experiencing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We are the people who are smoking crack and our government.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to see him try to push back against Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>So he starts off like a lot of European leaders

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<v Speaker 1>have with some success. You know, mister Trump, you're the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest and tallest and most beautiful, real sort of pravda

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<v Speaker 1>kind of North Korean, the kind of Mussolini esque praise

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump needs. Then he says, you know, Canadian people

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<v Speaker 1>who he represents. I mean, we've you know what's nice

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<v Speaker 1>about Trump is he's completely forgotten about the whole elected

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<v Speaker 1>for the people by the people. So Carney says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Canadian people don't want to be a fifty first state.

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<v Speaker 1>They've pretty definitively said that that's not what they want,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then Trump's sort of what is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>if there's something to be gleaned from this dysfunction, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that you do see Trump he says, at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not going to be as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>it was when I was so mean, and I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be laughing to the President of Ukraine, because he did

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<v Speaker 1>say in that meeting where you had the vice president

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<v Speaker 1>being horrible to him, there was that he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not as combative as that.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's good. I don't know. I mean, Canada has.

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<v Speaker 1>Been our number one trading partner of Canada and Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a completely self created crisis is that we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to manage. Now, completely self created crisis is because

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<v Speaker 1>there are many that were trying to manage. But I

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<v Speaker 1>felt for Carney and there was certainly a moment there

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<v Speaker 1>when Trump was trying to explain he wants to stop

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<v Speaker 1>buying Canadian cars, where it felt like he did not

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<v Speaker 1>quite get what was going on and how any of

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<v Speaker 1>this works.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Supreme Court has allowed mister Trump's administration to

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<v Speaker 3>enforce the transgender military bin and uh, yeah, that's just lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean again, this is like to sort of aside here.

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<v Speaker 1>Main Governor Janet Mills told Trump World they could not

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<v Speaker 1>take away federal funds because Trump was they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of do this anti trans stuff with the schools,

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<v Speaker 1>and she won in court. So a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff is pretty blatantly unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you have to remember we have this very.

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<v Speaker 1>Conservative court that has decided that discrimination is okay. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's really what we're saying here. Right, They're

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<v Speaker 1>allowing Trump to enforce transgender military band.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's discrimination, right, You're discriminating against transgender people and the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court is allowing it. Look, ultimately, this Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>may sort of be able to stop some of the

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<v Speaker 1>really scary stuff that Trump's going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But ideologically they are saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That discrimination is okay and that I think needs to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, this is should not This is

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<v Speaker 1>what this court is is very conservative court that he

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<v Speaker 1>is very much in the tank for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that we know is not okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So when Mitch McConnell decided to step aside of

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<v Speaker 3>being the Senate majority leader, many people wondered this, Tom

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<v Speaker 3>tillis fella. I haven't heard much about him over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>He's kind of had a low profile. How is he

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<v Speaker 3>going to rule? And I think we got an interesting

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<v Speaker 3>hint today.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tom tillis again, when you get brave right before

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<v Speaker 1>you're up for election, that I think should be noted.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not bravery, that's just like trying to survive trump Ism.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, there were two high profile people who have

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<v Speaker 1>decided not to run in twenty twenty six. They are

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<v Speaker 1>New new in New Hampshire and Brian Kemp in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could say they're doing it because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with trump Ism or their principal, but they're really

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<v Speaker 1>doing it because they know that Trump's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a drag on the midterms, and they know it's not

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<v Speaker 1>politically expedient. They've waited this long, They'll wait a little longer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a similar motivation behind this. Till

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<v Speaker 1>his nose he's up. He likes to be in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe he's going to resign, but I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to try to run again. And North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina is not Alabama, right, it's a pretty purple state,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know he's going to vote against some

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<v Speaker 1>of the really insane nominees Ed Martin, so he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be the new top prosecutor in DC.

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<v Speaker 2>He is. I just want to give you a few reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Why he's completely I mean, he's just famous. Like go

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<v Speaker 1>on his Twitter and you will be really freaked out.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy is not what you want.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not fit for office. So, in an interesting turn,

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<v Speaker 3>many people were hoping that after Jerry Connelly unfortunately has

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<v Speaker 3>stepped down as head of Oversight, that AOC would run,

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<v Speaker 3>But she is going to stay on her position as

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<v Speaker 3>the Energy and Commerce.

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<v Speaker 1>Committee yeah, she said, the dynamics have not changed. So

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<v Speaker 1>Connolly is stepping down. Then there Eleanor Holmes Norton has

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<v Speaker 1>put her hat in the ring. She is eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years old. The Daily Caller was delighted to draw attention

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<v Speaker 1>to that. But there are other people on that committee

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<v Speaker 1>who are extremely good communicators, and they are Garcia Rocanna,

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<v Speaker 1>Melanie Stansberry, who's freshman, Greg ciz Are, summer Lee, Maxwell Frost.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are a lot of people on that

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<v Speaker 1>committee who would be great to have on there as

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<v Speaker 1>the ranking. This committee is such an insane I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and oversight is such an insane on the Republican side,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have just the craziest Marjorie Taylor, Green

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<v Speaker 1>beaupert Ana, Paulina Luna, Nancy Mace, Andy Biggs, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Gosar, I mean, just craziness. But yeah, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is a real opportunity here to

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<v Speaker 1>elevate someone who's not ten thousand years old and no

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<v Speaker 1>one's ever heard of. We'll see what happens. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get my hopes up.

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<v Speaker 3>Get your hopes up that we don't have ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Years years old.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Andy Levy is the host of the new podcast

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<v Speaker 4>As the World Churns, which you can find on your

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<v Speaker 4>favorite podcast player, and he is the former host of

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<v Speaker 4>the new Abnormal.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we Go, Andy Levy.

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<v Speaker 5>Molly john First.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back chart rated podcaster Andy Levy.

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<v Speaker 5>That's your Yeah, I know, I'm so bad.

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<v Speaker 6>It's self promotion.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Molly is talking about the new podcast that Daniel

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<v Speaker 5>Moody and I have launched this week, As the World Churns.

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<v Speaker 5>You can find it anywhere you get your podcasts and

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<v Speaker 5>also on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk today. Donald Trump. You may have heard

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<v Speaker 1>of him. He had a meeting with Mark Karney, the

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<v Speaker 1>newly elected Prime Minister of Canada, and it was, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, incredible they did, because Trump is good

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<v Speaker 1>at getting people's attention, which is something Democrats could absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>learn from.

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<v Speaker 2>He invited the.

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<v Speaker 1>Pool spray in and there he explained to that that

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<v Speaker 1>he has no idea how trade works, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty amazing moment in which he said yes, so Carney,

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<v Speaker 1>who was like very smart and knows how to do

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and was involved in the disaster that is Brexit,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep Britain from ruining itself, which spoiler he

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<v Speaker 1>was not able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, well, you know, we have all.

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<v Speaker 1>These cars where they're made partially in Canada and partially

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, which is true. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have these car parks that go back and forth to

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<v Speaker 1>different factories. And the whole idea here is that you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't tear if things multiple times, and Trump said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't want to buy Canadian cars anymore. We

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<v Speaker 1>only want to buy American cars. Are we all going

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<v Speaker 1>to die?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know that I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the guy that supposed to be a businessman,

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<v Speaker 5>like I keep being told that in this businessman billionaire

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<v Speaker 5>mixed deals. This is a guy who I guess steals

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<v Speaker 5>today said that we don't care about accessing foreign markets. Tatum,

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<v Speaker 5>that's good to come. I think as a surprise to

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of American companies. Maybe I'm wrong because I

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<v Speaker 5>don't you know, look, I don't want to argue with

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<v Speaker 5>the business genius. It's entirely possible that I'm wrong. But

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<v Speaker 5>my understanding of economics is that you want as many

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<v Speaker 5>people as possible to buy your products, to buy your services,

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<v Speaker 5>and that means you don't care really where they live

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<v Speaker 5>in the world. So you know, Am I wrong, Molly?

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<v Speaker 6>Am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to tear off foreign films, the cash cow

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<v Speaker 1>that is foreign films.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but you have always and this is one thing,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, a lot of us we talk about

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<v Speaker 5>this about you off air. You've always had a jingoistic

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<v Speaker 5>streak always, it really does. It borders on the xenophobic,

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<v Speaker 5>and you are apt to be muttering those damn foreigners

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<v Speaker 5>a lot. I give you credit because you've managed to

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<v Speaker 5>keep that. I guess until now you've got just keep

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<v Speaker 5>that sort of private sort of you haven't done it

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<v Speaker 5>on your podcasts or i'm MSNBC, but not yet. But

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<v Speaker 5>the fact, but the fact of the matter is now

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<v Speaker 5>the world knows exactly what you are. So I guess

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<v Speaker 5>I understand why you sort of agree with Trump here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, certainly we don't need those foreigner Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a genius. No, listen, Yeah, it is very stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>This is very very stupid. But the good I think

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<v Speaker 1>like we are careening into what seems like it is

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<v Speaker 1>about to be an economic disaster completely of Trump's making.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the one bright spot here is that

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<v Speaker 1>it undermines the authoritarianism.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it undermines the authoritarianism. By that, do you mean

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<v Speaker 5>there are people in this country who might support Trump

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<v Speaker 5>on the authoritarianism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are quite a lot of people in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fair to say for whom attacking universities

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<v Speaker 1>and disappearing grad students is not a disqualifier or a problem, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, it's it's not good. They don't even

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they even think it's particularly bad, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They just are okay with it. But crashing the economy

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<v Speaker 1>for no reason that actually does seem to have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>even the people for whom you know, the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>trump Ism is fine, pretty pissed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think that's right. And I do think that, like,

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, the people who either are gung ho

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<v Speaker 5>about shutting down those damn elite universities and about cancer,

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<v Speaker 5>yeah exactly, and kidnapping people and sending them to a

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<v Speaker 5>foreign country because their skin is darker than ours. The

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<v Speaker 5>people who are either gung ho for that, or they're

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<v Speaker 5>okay with it, or they simply don't care. They are

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<v Speaker 5>all going to care about, as you said, about if

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<v Speaker 5>the economy crashes and they can't afford things, and they

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<v Speaker 5>look at their dolls. Well, that's the other thing. It's like,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm older. Remember I was working at Fox News when

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<v Speaker 5>Bernie Sanders said something about you know, it was about

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<v Speaker 5>deodor it's and he was talking about how you go

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<v Speaker 5>into a drug store and they are like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>thirty forty different brands of deodorant. He's like, that's crazy,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't need that. And the outrage at Fox News

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<v Speaker 5>when he said this, how dare he? How dare he

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<v Speaker 5>say we don't need all those choices? That's capitalism. And

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<v Speaker 5>we've gone from that to of course, the same people

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<v Speaker 5>who were saying that supporting the president who is out

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<v Speaker 5>there saying, you know, you only need two dolls.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because on this podcast you're about to hear

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<v Speaker 2>me interview Andy Beshore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Andy Day, It's Andy Day on whatever his politics.

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<v Speaker 1>And Andy said, it's not the difference between thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and two dollars. It's the difference between two dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and no dolls. And as someone who really has come

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<v Speaker 1>from a lot of privilege, it didn't occur to me

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<v Speaker 1>because as much as I, you know, understand that people

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<v Speaker 1>who have less than I do, or who have been

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<v Speaker 1>discriminated again, have a harder time. In some ways, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't occur to me. I was as much guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump affluent affluenza, you know, the way of thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>as as anyone, because I thought there, you know, I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a message anyone's going to like. But what

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Bushers said is exactly right. It's it's not it's

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<v Speaker 1>two dollars or no dolls, and and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have and there's going to be a Christmas where because

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<v Speaker 1>we already see the shipping, and we already see China

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<v Speaker 1>and the toy manufacturing, and we just saw Mattel saying

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<v Speaker 1>toys are going to be more expensive. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be a you know, they're a two

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<v Speaker 1>dollars versus thirty five dollars Christmas. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>people without toys.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and our children, not.

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<v Speaker 2>People children, right, children or adults without toys.

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<v Speaker 5>Adult adults gonna have toys.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're an adult and you don't get anything for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not that you are not talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>therapy twenty years later.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, okay, Gritch, I just want to say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when we're talking about adults, we don't call them dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>We call them action figures. That's very important.

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<v Speaker 2>PlayStation four five, thank you seven. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>more expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>I know. I'm glad I have it already, and I've

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<v Speaker 5>been talking to some other people about this, and I

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<v Speaker 5>am like convincing myself to buy stuff now that I

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<v Speaker 5>don't necessarily need, but like, you know, know that I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of want because I'm like, it's it's only smart

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<v Speaker 5>to buy it now before these tariffs really kick in.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saving myself money, is what I'm doing. I'm being

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<v Speaker 5>smart by buying all these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're going into our own mental on this for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, I was saying, when are we not you

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<v Speaker 1>and I together, we're just diving into mental in this here.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, you know, I need more paper towels,

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<v Speaker 1>like the tariffs are going to hit the paper.

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<v Speaker 5>House right Well, the tariffs may not, but the shelves

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<v Speaker 5>may be bare.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so I was like, I'm going to need

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<v Speaker 1>to buy seventy dollars worth of paper house right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, everything I've been reading is that. And as you

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<v Speaker 5>alluded to the shipping earlier, that you know the ports

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<v Speaker 5>are not as crowded as they were, and they're they're

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<v Speaker 5>continuing the ports in America and they're continuing to become

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<v Speaker 5>less and less crowded. And you know, I've seen people

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<v Speaker 5>talking about how as early as later this month, we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to really be noticing it at at the store,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. So my I think my point here is

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<v Speaker 5>that I may be stopping by Molly to get some paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Talks, and I may not be giving them. You know him,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 5>During COVID too, You're like, I'm order surrounded. You made

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<v Speaker 5>like a toilet paper roll for it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you.

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<v Speaker 1>The episode of CARB where they go into the closet

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<v Speaker 1>and they realize that that once his name is in order,

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<v Speaker 1>he's such a great guy, but he's actually he's got

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<v Speaker 1>all the toilet paper. And it's incredible when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, that we have made the stupidest person in

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<v Speaker 1>America president and then we have made him the most powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>President in modern political history.

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<v Speaker 5>I've always felt that sometimes there are like the president

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<v Speaker 5>can only do so much with the economy, and I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like sometimes presidents get too much blame or too

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<v Speaker 5>much credit for the state of the economy. But with

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<v Speaker 5>what's happening now and what's gonna probably continue to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>This is solely Donald Trump's fault. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>nobody else's fault, not counting to sycophants around him and

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<v Speaker 5>in the Republican Congress. But this is this is like

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<v Speaker 5>a self made recession which may turn into a self

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<v Speaker 5>made global depression, all because of this one guy. It's

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<v Speaker 5>really I don't think it has a like there's no

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<v Speaker 5>reference point for this in our lives. I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>molly like, well, we could say this, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 5>just like when this president did that. Like, there's really

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<v Speaker 5>I can't think of one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, COVID a little bit, right, we saw it coming,

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<v Speaker 1>but again it was in once in a lifetime pandemic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that in a sense is a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the same at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But like the credit crisis, we were saved by a

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<v Speaker 1>president who understood because that could have turned into I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the way it was done, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like bailing out the banks, and perhaps there would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a way. I think what we saw, what

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<v Speaker 1>Biden learned from it was that you should bail out

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<v Speaker 1>everyone if you're going to bail out the banks, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to bail out also small businesses. Now, the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is when you start bailing out small businesses, you open

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to PPE fraud. By the way, so many people

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<v Speaker 1>in Trump world got PPE loans, I mean incredible numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you open the door to like paying

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<v Speaker 1>out small businesses, why are you not paying out student loans?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you really do sort of open the door

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<v Speaker 1>to moral re love. And see, there have been many

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<v Speaker 1>times in sort of Trump's first term where I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to do that. He's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, He's not going to do that, and that

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<v Speaker 1>he was sort of talked out of it. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw earlier this month with the public markets, that

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<v Speaker 1>he was talked out of it. Eventually, the hope is

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<v Speaker 1>that that will happen again. But when you listen to

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.920
<v Speaker 1>him talking to Mark Karney, it seems as if he

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<v Speaker 1>still doesn't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>That he's wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Oh for sure, he absolutely doesn't understand that he's wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>And when we talk about him being talked out of things,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that's fully accurate because I think what

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<v Speaker 5>ends up happening is like he names some outrageous figure

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<v Speaker 5>like we're gonna put a one hundred percent tariff on this,

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<v Speaker 5>and people are like, you know, the markets react to

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<v Speaker 5>that badly. People are like, oh, this is a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 5>And then he says, all right, we're only going to

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<v Speaker 5>do twenty percent, and still like, but that's still wrong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's still not good. It's just that we are

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<v Speaker 5>being conditioned by you know, him going to this far

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<v Speaker 5>extreme and then when he comes back a little, we're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>see he listens, but it's like, no, because he shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>He shouldn't be doing these things at all. And and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, look, I don't know. I think at a

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<v Speaker 5>certain point he is going to stop piling things back because,

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<v Speaker 5>as you said, he is convinced that he is right

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<v Speaker 5>and it doesn't matter how many people tell him he's wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we saw that even with a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the tariffs that even Elon Musk was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want him to be doing this, and he didn't really care.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Elon Musk still running Doge? What is Doge doing?

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<v Speaker 2>And why are we not hearing about it every die?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's a good question. I guess they did have

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<v Speaker 5>that little press conference with big balls. Yeah it's big balls,

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<v Speaker 5>we know a couple days ago. But look, I think

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<v Speaker 5>Musk is a little scared. I think he's a little

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<v Speaker 5>scared of that move by the Tesla shareholders or the

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<v Speaker 5>board to you know, maybe replace him if he doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>dial it back. And I think that that is the

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<v Speaker 5>sole reason that he hasn't been as public with the

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<v Speaker 5>Doge stuff. But also, I mean, look, they talked about

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<v Speaker 5>dose as going to have all this transparency, and they

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<v Speaker 5>launched that ridiculous website with the supposed dollars amazing, right,

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<v Speaker 5>but that even on their own website, like that dollar

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<v Speaker 5>figure is shrinking, like their supposed savings, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I was going to say, we are learning,

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<v Speaker 5>but we already knew this. But the people who didn't

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<v Speaker 5>understand that Elon Musk just pedals absolute lies and nonsense

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<v Speaker 5>for a living. That's and I mean that for real,

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's literally what he does talking about. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's been now fifteen years where he said we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to be on Mars in five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my favorite is what it would you like? Would

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<v Speaker 2>you like to take nine minutes to get to Boston? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>So he makes these outrageous promises because he's a huckster,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's a he's ultimately he's a grifter and and

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<v Speaker 5>he sells these dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>The richest man in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because it's worked for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's worked with the government. I mean, what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of indictment does this our federal government, that this guy

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<v Speaker 2>has gotten to be the richism in the world basically

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<v Speaker 2>through government subsidies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I've been saying this for a long time, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>this didn't start with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was shut it down Democratic.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this was Democratic administrations working with Elon Musk giving

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<v Speaker 5>him these contracts. The oligarchy works for both parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, shut it down, Back it up, Andy Levy, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what time it is, time to end, Time to

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<v Speaker 1>end the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, perhaps you'll come back.

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<v Speaker 5>Perhaps I will.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Burscher is the governor of Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Fast Politics. Governor Burshare, very excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for the invitation.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this amazing moment of you building a house and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about building.

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<v Speaker 2>The house in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you give me the context of why you're

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding or building in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>What the story behind that was.

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<v Speaker 6>Kentucky, we have been hammered by natural disasters fourteen federally

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<v Speaker 6>declared disasters since I'm a king governor, that's over five

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<v Speaker 6>and a half years. We have the worst tornadoes in

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<v Speaker 6>our history. Wiped out my dad's hometown of Dawson Springs,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're rebuilding there. But in July of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 6>we had the worst flooding that we've ever seen. It

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<v Speaker 6>killed forty five people, which I mean doesn't happen in floods,

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<v Speaker 6>and wiped out thousands upon thousands of homes. So we

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<v Speaker 6>embarked on what is the I think the most challenging

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<v Speaker 6>rebuild that we've seen in America. That's moving people from

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<v Speaker 6>the valleys where it floods to the top of abandoned

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 6>coal mines. We go in and we test them, we

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 6>make sure that the ground is solid. And we have

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 6>seven of these projects all across eastern Kentucky in the

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.920
<v Speaker 6>heart of Appalachia, where we are building homes on high

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 6>ground that will never ever flood. We'll address affordable housing

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 6>at the same time, but most importantly, we're giving people

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 6>who lost everything a forever home. I got to tell

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 6>you, you see lots of great things as governor, but watching

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 6>kids walk through for the first time a new home

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 6>and pick out their rooms after being displaced for a

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 6>couple of years is where I see God. You see

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 6>this amazing joy and resiliency of these children, but just

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 6>a new fresh start. It was very difficult to put together.

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 6>But wanting to actually solve a problem and not have

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 6>to face this type of flooding again.

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Part of what makes governors popular and what makes them

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>perhaps even more set up for higher office is that

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>you are able to solve logistical infrastructure problems.

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>So clearly you are a state that.

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Has been battered by climate issues, right, what other kind

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>of infrastructure problems are you addressing and how well?

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 6>A great thing about being a governor, and I think

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 6>what differentiates us from just about any other office is

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 6>we get things done and people see it. They can

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 6>be a part of it. You know, you are so

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 6>vested in your state every day on trying to make

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 6>life better, and if you're doing it, you're trying to

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 6>make life better for everyone. And investing in infrastructure helps democrats, republicans, independents.

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 6>It it just builds a better life for everyone. So

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 6>right now we're engaged in three mega projects around our state,

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 6>the most we've ever done at one time. We're building

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 6>the Brent Spence Companion Bridge in northern Kentucky. President Biden

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 6>came down to help make that announcement. That's one of

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 6>the most traveled thoroughfares in the country, and the existing

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 6>bridge isn't enough. We've got an I sixty nine project

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 6>that's going to open up parts of Indiana and western Kentucky.

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 6>But then we have the Mountain Parkway, which is the

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 6>first four lane highway into Appalachio, which is going to

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 6>open up the possibility of manufacturing, which requires a four

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 6>lane highway to ship in and out. And so this

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 6>will be the first time in our history that this

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 6>is possible with a workforce that is there. Workforce that

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 6>help build America, but America left behind, and so we're

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 6>really excited about what that possibility means. The other infrastructure

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 6>that's helping all of Kentucky but can make a huge

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 6>difference in eastern Kentucky. It's high speed internet and that

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 6>solves so many challenges, from educational opportunities to creating your

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 6>own business. It has a chance when we finally get

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 6>the bead money of being transformational across Kentucky and all

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 6>of America, but especially rural America. As we build to

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 6>be more resilient after floods and tornadoes. We've got to

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 6>rebuild the bridges stronger, capable of standing up to one

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 6>hundred year flood every five or ten years. We've got

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 6>to build our roads in a way to where they

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 6>don't cave and wash away, especially our water and our

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 6>wastewater systems. Most people don't know that when it floods,

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 6>the pressure of that comes through and it bursts all

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 6>those pipes and it's millions upon millions of dollars of damage,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 6>and that makes the flooding worse because it can't take

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 6>the water out and away. And so knowing that climate

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 6>change is real, and I'm the first governor of Kentucky

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.959
<v Speaker 6>who said out loud that climate change is real, because

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 6>it is. Ask any farmer, us the US military. We

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 6>know that the next probably ten years of ramifications are

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 6>going to happen. Hopefully we can change the ten years

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 6>after that, and so making sure we're building to protect

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 6>our people from all of these challenges. But aside from infrastructure,

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of human talent out there helping us

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 6>and very worried about cuts from the Trump administration on

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 6>what that means. The National Weather Service has saved so

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 6>many lives.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask about that because you have people

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>who are in rural areas where if they can't see

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>what's coming, they could die.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Can you talk us through that?

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and in the urban areas too. The National Weather

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 6>Service is an amazing group of people that are constantly

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 6>watching for the next batch of bad weather. They gave

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 6>us a heads up on our February flooding, which was massive.

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 6>We saved one thousand people in the first twenty four

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 6>hours because the National Weather Service told us when it

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 6>would happen and where it would happen, and so we

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 6>pre positioned all these swift water teams in their boats

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 6>ready to go before the storm ever hit. That's what

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 6>the National Weather Service allows you to do. We only

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 6>lost a couple people because of the direct flooding. We

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 6>lost some more because they tried to drive through high water,

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 6>which I wish people wouldn't ever try to do. But

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 6>the National Weather Service saves lives by allowing you to prepare.

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 6>And they not only talked to us they talked to

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 6>all the meteorologists at all the stations, they talk to

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 6>the radio stations, and so we're able to get this

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 6>information out and people are able to prepare, to get

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 6>ready to go stay with relatives. But what we're seeing

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 6>in our massive cuts and concerns that we wouldn't have

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 6>twenty four seven three sixty five coverage in an area

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 6>that has to have that everyday coverage.

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>You are a Democrat a red state as a governor.

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>We've seen when Democratic governors are in red states they

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>tend to do extremely well. This is not always true,

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but like I'm thinking about Cooper, there are just a

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>number of these blue governors in red states. But you've

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.479
<v Speaker 1>really had a lot of success in Kentucky, and you

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of talk us through why that is and how

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you have people who have voted for you who have

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>never voted for Democrats, and just talk to me about

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>how that works and how you are able to sort

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of let them know you're there for them despite if

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they are a Trumper or anything like that.

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 6>Being a successful governor is about being a governor for everyone,

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 6>and I think that starts with the same type of focus.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 6>I'd like the entire Democratic Party, and for that matter,

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 6>the Republican Party to adopt. And that's been an eighty

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.719
<v Speaker 6>percent of your time on the core concerns that people

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 6>wake up thinking about and go to bed worried about.

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 6>And that starts with your job, whether you make enough

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 6>to support your family. We brought in a record amount

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 6>of private sector investment. We've created more jobs than under

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 6>any other governor, the highest wages. We've broken our ex

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 6>sports record, We've broken our tourism record. It shows you

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 6>that Democrats can manage an economy and in fact help

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 6>a state or a country thrive. I think the second

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 6>piece that people worry about is their next doctor's appointment

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.719
<v Speaker 6>for themselves, or their parents or their kids. I've been

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 6>able to expand Medicaid in ways where we have increased

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 6>access all over Kentucky. We just built our first hospital

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 6>in Kentucky's largest African American community in one hundred and

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 6>fifty years. First time people haven't had to take multiple

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 6>buses or drive across town to see a specialist, much

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 6>less their primary care doctor. I think people worry about

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 6>the roads and bridges they drive every day. They worry

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 6>about the public school they drop their kids off at,

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 6>and they worry about public safety in their communities, not

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 6>just whether they are safe under the statistic, but whether

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 6>they feel safe. And when you concentrate all those things,

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 6>people feel better about their lives because you've worked to

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 6>better their lives. And when you're doing that, I think

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 6>people will start giving you a second look. But I

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 6>think there's two other things that you have to do

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 6>at the same time. Number one is you've got to

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 6>speak to people like a normal human being. We've seen

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 6>all these sanitized terms that are out there where you

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 6>lose your emotion and what it means. Kentucky has been

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 6>racked with addiction that we just announced a thirty percent

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 6>decrease in overdose deaths from last year. We've been waiting

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 6>for this moment for so long. But for every person

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 6>I know that's gone through addiction, and I'm known a lot,

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 6>they've never called it substance use disorder. They've called it addiction.

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 6>Somebody who's hungry doesn't call it food insecurity, And I

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 6>don't think that people push these words meaning to hurt dialogue.

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 6>I think they meant it to reduce stigma. But I'm

0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 6>not sure changing words reduces stigma, changing arts reduce stigma,

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 6>So focus talk to people like a real human being.

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 6>And the last piece that I think is so important

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 6>is explaining your why. We talk a lot in the

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.959
<v Speaker 6>Democratic Party about the what, what's our position on this,

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 6>what's her nuance on that, what's section A point three?

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 6>But what we don't talk about is why. What drives us?

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 6>And for me, that's my faith. And when I'm vetoed

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 6>the nastiest ANTIOLOGBTQ bill that our state had ever seen

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 6>in my election year, I explain why. I mean, I

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:30.479
<v Speaker 6>believe that all children are children of God. And if

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 6>I believe that, which I do in my court from

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 6>my faith, it's my job to stand up for those

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 6>kids when other people are picking on what happened after that,

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 6>you know, to show people that politically, when you explain

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.239
<v Speaker 6>your why, they'll give you grace and space even if

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 6>they disagree with you. I didn't lose a point. In fact,

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 6>I have people coming up to me saying I might

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 6>not agree with you, but I know you're doing what

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 6>you think is right. If you explain your why, people

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 6>can disagree with the what, but ultimately still supports you.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about the real talk thing.

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Because I in a little bit of trouble this week

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>because I was on with the Democratic Elected and she

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>was very McKenzie and she was saying very mckenzy things.

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>They're good ideas, right, I mean, there were a number

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of good ideas, but the way she was saying them

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>was couched in a lot of very mackenzie kind of

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>consultant d language. And when you talk like that, you

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>really lose people, including me.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 6>Sounds like you're talking down to people.

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I also.

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Just think people get very bored by it, and ultimately

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not effective.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>So I liked that you talked about addiction.

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been sober since I was nineteen, and I think

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot about how we treat addiction, and the problem

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>of addiction is a huge problem in this country. One

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I think is really helpful when

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>it comes to addiction is just I talk about it

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>because I want to reduce stigma. And when you're talking

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 1>about sort of religion, we also have weird stigma about

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>religion in this country, and we shouldn't.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 6>Talking about your faith can be why Joshapiro does it too.

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 6>We're of different faiths, but we respect each other's. It

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 6>can come from your values it can come from how

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 6>you were raised. But if you or why deals with

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 6>your faith, there are ways to talk about it without

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 6>trying to press it on anyone. And the values that

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 6>I typically talk about, which is loving your neighbor as yourself,

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 6>the parable of the Good Samaritans, saying everybody as your neighbor.

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 6>Those are found in all major religions or in all

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 6>major value systems. And I think there are things that

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 6>people either directly relate to or they appreciate hearing because

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 6>it helps them know how you're going to make decisions

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 6>on the toughness of issues.

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about rural hospitals because you mentioned rural hospitals.

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Medicaid expansion is how you paid for a lot of

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>these rural hospitals. TODK goes through medicaid expansion. Why you

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>took it, why some red steak governors did not take it,

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and what it means now that Trump is targeting it.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, the guy who made medicaid expansion happen in Kentucky

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 6>his named Steve Basher. He was my dad. Lost a

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 6>governor's race in nineteen eighty seven, won a governor's race

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 6>in two thousand and seven, and as a thirty year

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 6>old lawyer starting in two thousand and seven.

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I got to.

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 6>Watch him work go through the Great Recession. But expanding

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:21.919
<v Speaker 6>Medicaid was game changing, game changing in taking us from

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 6>one of the top rates of uninsured or uncovered individuals

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 6>to one of the lowest. There were over four hundred

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 6>thousand Kentucky and so it got coverage for the first time.

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 6>But it's also very humanizing when you see it. One

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 6>of the reasons that I got into politics, other than

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 6>my kids who deserved a better world than they were

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 6>growing up in, was the time I'm standing on an

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 6>elevator with my dad while he's governor. The woman walks

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 6>in and bursts into tears, and I didn't know what

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 6>to do, and she looks at him and says, I'm

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 6>alive today because of you. That she couldn't get coverage

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 6>until Medicaid expanded, until we took the ACA and created

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 6>the gold standard at that time, and she started getting

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 6>coverage to deal with a very difficult and chronic issue.

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 6>My goodness to see a person alive today because of

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 6>that policy decision and thriving tells you that there is

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 6>real good that you can do in these jobs. But

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 6>then fast forward, I become governor. In three months later,

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 6>we get hit by the pandemic, and thank god we'd

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 6>expanded Medicaid because Kentucky had rural hospitals with the extra

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 6>beds that could take care of people at a time

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 6>when we desperately needed it. We set up a field hospital,

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 6>but didn't have to use it because our rural hospitals

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 6>did an incredible job. They provided a higher level of

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 6>care than they were ever designed for. But they were

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 6>there and the employees were there, and we have so

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 6>many people alive today, both because of regular screenings you

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 6>can get in your community, but also having that during

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 6>the pandemic. But I think people now see Medicaid for

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 6>what it is. Medicaid covers the people we love the

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 6>most in the world, our parents and our kids. Half

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 6>of Kentucky's kids are covered by Medicaid. Seventy percent of

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 6>our long term care call are covered by Medicaid. So

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 6>major cuts to Medicaid are going to mean that people

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 6>have to take in parents that need extra care. That's

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 6>going to purt productivity in the economy. It's going to

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 6>be tough on families. It also means our children are

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 6>going to be less healthy, which is going to be

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 6>a hit to both families and the economy. But then

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 6>look at what happens with rural health care. I mean

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 6>it will devastate it. Most rural health care will shut down,

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 6>and what that means is a huge loss of jobs.

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 6>So in most counties that have a rural hospital, it's

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 6>the second largest employer behind the public school system. But

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 6>then think about the people that live in that county,

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 6>because when that hospital shuts down, they're going to have

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 6>to drive two hours to go to a doctor's appointment

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 6>to see the sane doctor who lost their job in

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 6>their hometown and had to move to a bigger city.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 6>And that's whether you're on Medicaid or private insurance. It's

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 6>going to hit everyone.

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>How will the tariffs effect Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 6>Harder than just about any other state? Already seeing it?

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<v Speaker 6>You see major employers like UPS announcing twenty thousand layoffs.

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 6>Not a ton of those are in Kentucky. But as

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 6>we see major employers get hit, that'll hit every community.

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 6>But then I see a lot of mid size or

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 6>small businesses and they get parts from all over the world.

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 6>Then getting parts from all over the world at the

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 6>right cost allow them to employ a lot of Kentuckians,

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 6>a lot of Americans, allow them to grow and add

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 6>more jobs. But as the costs are going up and

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 6>they know they can't pass all that to the consumer

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 6>because then it'd make it unaffordable, they're having to lay

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 6>people off. And when a small business lays people off,

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 6>it's somebody they may go to church with, their kids,

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 6>may play on a baseball team together. It shows you

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 6>how hard this is hitting the American people. And then

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 6>the way it'll tax our families. Now, if it hits

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 6>our families at that forty six hundred dollars number that

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 6>I think the Yale study had out there, that blows

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 6>a hole in a budget you can't make up for.

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 6>And so what that means is a president that was

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 6>elected because the last group of voters thought he'd make

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 6>paying the bills easier are going to be fully betrayed,

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 6>and it's going to be that much harder. And these

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 6>comments that people could use less toys, I guess during

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 6>Christmas coming out of a billionaire's mouth, thirty seven versus two.

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 6>Most Americans can't afford thirty seven toys for their kids.

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 6>It's the difference between a few and none.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and I think that's important.

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>How do you talk to you know, you are the

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:34.879
<v Speaker 1>governor of the state where a lot of people voted

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>for Trump.

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>How do you welcome those people back into the fold?

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>How do you say, like, I get the impulse because

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>he offered to make things cheaper, but everything's getting more expensive.

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 6>Well, first thing I won't ever do is judge people

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 6>by how they voted. I'll never talk down to people

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 6>about how they voted. This is a democracy, it's their right,

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 6>and I want people to go out and to vote.

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 6>But what I can do is speak out about the policies,

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 6>and you've got to do it with credibility. Now, there

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 6>are a lot of questions going around about how should

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 6>you engage with this administration. Well, the first thing is

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 6>if you're speaking out, you've got to have credibility. If

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 6>the administration does something good, you've got to admit it.

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 6>Their FEMA response in Kentucky has actually been very good,

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 6>which is ironic wanting to dismantle parts of FEMA when

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 6>it's actually operating on the ground better than I've seen it.

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 6>And I've seen a lot of FEMA operatings. But then

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 6>you look at tariffs and their impact, the chaos that's

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 6>caused in the market, the fact that the stock market,

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 6>the bond market, the value of the dollar all going down,

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 6>concerns about GDP and the rest of the economy. I mean,

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 6>these are terrible policies that have hit the economy harder

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 6>than any policy I've ever seen from a president in

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 6>my lifetime. And I've also never seen something that is

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 6>so directly attributable to one person, because the president has

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 6>owned these tariffs. He held up that board, which is

0:41:58.000 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 6>I think a picture he's going to regret.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you, Governor Bushire.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh very much enjoyed it. Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>No Moxec, Jesse Cannon, Mai junk Fast. We have been

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.959
<v Speaker 3>covering the subject. We've had Justice Riggs down in North

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Carolina on many a time on this podcast because we

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 3>believe that this is truly gross what the Republicans have

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 3>been doing, and unprecedented, but it looks like a happy

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 3>ending maybe coming our way in America. Molly, what do

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:33.280
<v Speaker 3>you think of that concept.

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to feel better until she's sworn in,

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>but it seems as if Justice Riggs this may finally

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>be over right. The Republican lost and was like, no,

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't lose, and so real classy stuff here by

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 1>a Republicans. So the federal judge says results in North

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Carolina court race with Democrat ahead must be certified. So

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.280
<v Speaker 1>this justice says that it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Over, so we'll see what happens.

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I hope that it's over and that she gets sworn

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in because she did win. And as much as it's

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>fun for Republicans to feel that they can fight back

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 1>when they don't win, this is really not how it's

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:15.879
<v Speaker 1>supposed to work.

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