1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: today's best minds. And in Trump's first one hundred days, 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: the word Biden was his fifth most frequently used, According 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: to a Time analysis of transcripts of Trump's public remarks, 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: we have such a great show. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: For you today. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: As the world churns, host Andy Levy stops by to 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: talk about Trump's meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Carney and 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Trump's complete inability to understand how trade works. Then we 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: will talk to Kentucky Governor Andy Burscher about how to 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: deliver to your constituents and help their lives. 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: But first the news Somali. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: Some things in this world they're not for sale, and 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: apparently one of them is Canada, because mister Mark Carney 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: told that that Trump today and a lot of people 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: were saying he may not have the Riz of Justin 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: Trudeau to stand up to him, But I have to 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: say I think he did a good job today. 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: Oh I'm glad you got Riz in there. 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Listens, kids, Yes, my kids actually abanned me from saying 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: the word rez. One of the ways in which we 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: upset them is when my husband says, your mother has riz. 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: That gets them very upset. 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: How do they feel about you dressing chugi? 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what chugi means. We'll talk about this. 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: We're getting Is it fat? Is cheugy fat? 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: No doubt it's not. 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: I think you might want it. We've just come off 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: the raist. Canada is not for sale. Let's just talk 31 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: about this for a minute. So one of the things 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Trump invites the press in. He talks the press. He 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, talks back and forth. This was like the 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: second time he's met Carney. Carney, he really did antagonize Trudeau. 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: The whole fifty first day thing was meant to be 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of a way of antagonizing Trudeau. Now, Carney is 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: like the dream politician for this moment. If I were Canada, 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: this would be my dream. He has managed Brexit, he 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: was able to try to manage Brexit. He's a free trader, 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: he's an economist, and he's been able to handle living 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: over a crackhouse, which is what Canada is experiencing right now. 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: We are the people who are smoking crack and our government. 43 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: It's interesting to see him try to push back against Trump. 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: So he starts off like a lot of European leaders 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: have with some success. You know, mister Trump, you're the 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: biggest and tallest and most beautiful, real sort of pravda 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: kind of North Korean, the kind of Mussolini esque praise 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: that Trump needs. Then he says, you know, Canadian people 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: who he represents. I mean, we've you know what's nice 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: about Trump is he's completely forgotten about the whole elected 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: for the people by the people. So Carney says, well, 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: the Canadian people don't want to be a fifty first state. 53 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: They've pretty definitively said that that's not what they want, 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: you know. And then Trump's sort of what is interesting 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: if there's something to be gleaned from this dysfunction, which 56 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: is that you do see Trump he says, at one point, 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's not going to be as bad as 58 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: it was when I was so mean, and I shouldn't 59 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: be laughing to the President of Ukraine, because he did 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: say in that meeting where you had the vice president 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: being horrible to him, there was that he said, you know, 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: this is not as combative as that. 63 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: I guess that's good. I don't know. I mean, Canada has. 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Been our number one trading partner of Canada and Mexico. 65 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: This is a completely self created crisis is that we're 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: trying to manage. Now, completely self created crisis is because 67 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: there are many that were trying to manage. But I 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: felt for Carney and there was certainly a moment there 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: when Trump was trying to explain he wants to stop 70 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: buying Canadian cars, where it felt like he did not 71 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: quite get what was going on and how any of 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: this works. 73 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: So the Supreme Court has allowed mister Trump's administration to 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: enforce the transgender military bin and uh, yeah, that's just lovely. 75 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 76 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: I mean again, this is like to sort of aside here. 77 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: Main Governor Janet Mills told Trump World they could not 78 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: take away federal funds because Trump was they were trying 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: to sort of do this anti trans stuff with the schools, 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: and she won in court. So a lot of times 81 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: this stuff is pretty blatantly unconstitutional. 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: And now you have to remember we have this very. 83 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Conservative court that has decided that discrimination is okay. Right, 84 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's really what we're saying here. Right, They're 85 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: allowing Trump to enforce transgender military band. 86 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: They're doing that. 87 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: That's discrimination, right, You're discriminating against transgender people and the 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Supreme Court is allowing it. Look, ultimately, this Supreme Court 89 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: may sort of be able to stop some of the 90 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: really scary stuff that Trump's going to do. 91 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: But ideologically they are saying. 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: That discrimination is okay and that I think needs to 93 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is should not This is 94 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: what this court is is very conservative court that he 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: is very much in the tank for a lot of 96 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: the stuff that we know is not okay. 97 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. So when Mitch McConnell decided to step aside of 98 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: being the Senate majority leader, many people wondered this, Tom 99 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 3: tillis fella. I haven't heard much about him over the years. 100 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 3: He's kind of had a low profile. How is he 101 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: going to rule? And I think we got an interesting 102 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: hint today. 103 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: So Tom tillis again, when you get brave right before 104 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: you're up for election, that I think should be noted. 105 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: That's not bravery, that's just like trying to survive trump Ism. 106 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: For example, there were two high profile people who have 107 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: decided not to run in twenty twenty six. They are 108 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: New new in New Hampshire and Brian Kemp in Georgia. 109 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 1: And you could say they're doing it because they don't 110 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: agree with trump Ism or their principal, but they're really 111 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: doing it because they know that Trump's going to be 112 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: a drag on the midterms, and they know it's not 113 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: politically expedient. They've waited this long, They'll wait a little longer. 114 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: And I think there's a similar motivation behind this. Till 115 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: his nose he's up. He likes to be in the Senate, 116 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: or maybe he's going to resign, but I think I 117 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: think he's going to try to run again. And North 118 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Carolina is not Alabama, right, it's a pretty purple state, 119 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: and so you know he's going to vote against some 120 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: of the really insane nominees Ed Martin, so he wants 121 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: to be the new top prosecutor in DC. 122 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: He is. I just want to give you a few reasons. 123 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Why he's completely I mean, he's just famous. Like go 124 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: on his Twitter and you will be really freaked out. 125 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: This guy is not what you want. 126 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: He's not fit for office. So, in an interesting turn, 127 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: many people were hoping that after Jerry Connelly unfortunately has 128 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: stepped down as head of Oversight, that AOC would run, 129 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: But she is going to stay on her position as 130 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: the Energy and Commerce. 131 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Committee yeah, she said, the dynamics have not changed. So 132 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Connolly is stepping down. Then there Eleanor Holmes Norton has 133 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: put her hat in the ring. She is eight thousand 134 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: years old. The Daily Caller was delighted to draw attention 135 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: to that. But there are other people on that committee 136 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: who are extremely good communicators, and they are Garcia Rocanna, 137 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Melanie Stansberry, who's freshman, Greg ciz Are, summer Lee, Maxwell Frost. 138 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of people on that 139 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: committee who would be great to have on there as 140 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: the ranking. This committee is such an insane I mean, 141 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: and oversight is such an insane on the Republican side, 142 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you have just the craziest Marjorie Taylor, Green 143 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: beaupert Ana, Paulina Luna, Nancy Mace, Andy Biggs, I mean, 144 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Paul Gosar, I mean, just craziness. But yeah, I mean, look, 145 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: I think that this is a real opportunity here to 146 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: elevate someone who's not ten thousand years old and no 147 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: one's ever heard of. We'll see what happens. I don't 148 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: want to get my hopes up. 149 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: Get your hopes up that we don't have ten thousand. 150 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: Years years old. 151 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Andy Levy is the host of the new podcast 152 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: As the World Churns, which you can find on your 153 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: favorite podcast player, and he is the former host of 154 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: the new Abnormal. 155 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: Here we Go, Andy Levy. 156 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: Molly john First. 157 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back chart rated podcaster Andy Levy. 158 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 5: That's your Yeah, I know, I'm so bad. 159 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 6: It's self promotion. 160 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, Molly is talking about the new podcast that Daniel 161 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: Moody and I have launched this week, As the World Churns. 162 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: You can find it anywhere you get your podcasts and 163 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 5: also on YouTube. 164 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: So let's talk today. Donald Trump. You may have heard 165 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: of him. He had a meeting with Mark Karney, the 166 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: newly elected Prime Minister of Canada, and it was, I 167 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: have to say, incredible they did, because Trump is good 168 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: at getting people's attention, which is something Democrats could absolutely 169 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: learn from. 170 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: He invited the. 171 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: Pool spray in and there he explained to that that 172 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: he has no idea how trade works, and it was 173 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: a pretty amazing moment in which he said yes, so Carney, 174 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: who was like very smart and knows how to do 175 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: stuff and was involved in the disaster that is Brexit, 176 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: trying to keep Britain from ruining itself, which spoiler he 177 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: was not able to do. 178 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: Said, well, you know, we have all. 179 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: These cars where they're made partially in Canada and partially 180 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: in the United States, which is true. You know, you 181 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: have these car parks that go back and forth to 182 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: different factories. And the whole idea here is that you 183 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't tear if things multiple times, and Trump said, yeah, 184 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: but we don't want to buy Canadian cars anymore. We 185 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: only want to buy American cars. Are we all going 186 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: to die? 187 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 6: I don't know that I've ever had. 188 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 5: This is the guy that supposed to be a businessman, 189 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 5: like I keep being told that in this businessman billionaire 190 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 5: mixed deals. This is a guy who I guess steals 191 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: today said that we don't care about accessing foreign markets. Tatum, 192 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 5: that's good to come. I think as a surprise to 193 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: a lot of American companies. Maybe I'm wrong because I 194 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 5: don't you know, look, I don't want to argue with 195 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 5: the business genius. It's entirely possible that I'm wrong. But 196 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 5: my understanding of economics is that you want as many 197 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 5: people as possible to buy your products, to buy your services, 198 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 5: and that means you don't care really where they live 199 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 5: in the world. So you know, Am I wrong, Molly? 200 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 6: Am I wrong? 201 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited to tear off foreign films, the cash cow 202 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: that is foreign films. 203 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you have always and this is one thing, 204 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 5: and you know, a lot of us we talk about 205 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 5: this about you off air. You've always had a jingoistic 206 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: streak always, it really does. It borders on the xenophobic, 207 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 5: and you are apt to be muttering those damn foreigners 208 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: a lot. I give you credit because you've managed to 209 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: keep that. I guess until now you've got just keep 210 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: that sort of private sort of you haven't done it 211 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: on your podcasts or i'm MSNBC, but not yet. But 212 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: the fact, but the fact of the matter is now 213 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: the world knows exactly what you are. So I guess 214 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: I understand why you sort of agree with Trump here. 215 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, certainly we don't need those foreigner Well, 216 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: he is a genius. No, listen, Yeah, it is very stupid. 217 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: This is very very stupid. But the good I think 218 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: like we are careening into what seems like it is 219 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: about to be an economic disaster completely of Trump's making. 220 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: I feel like the one bright spot here is that 221 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: it undermines the authoritarianism. 222 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 5: Well, it undermines the authoritarianism. By that, do you mean 223 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: there are people in this country who might support Trump 224 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 5: on the authoritarianism. 225 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are quite a lot of people in this country. 226 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say for whom attacking universities 227 00:12:54,559 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: and disappearing grad students is not a disqualifier or a problem, right, 228 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: you you know, it's it's not good. They don't even 229 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't think they even think it's particularly bad, right, 230 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: They just are okay with it. But crashing the economy 231 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: for no reason that actually does seem to have gotten 232 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: even the people for whom you know, the rest of 233 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: trump Ism is fine, pretty pissed. Yeah. 234 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 5: No, I think that's right. And I do think that, like, 235 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 5: like you said, the people who either are gung ho 236 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 5: about shutting down those damn elite universities and about cancer, 237 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: yeah exactly, and kidnapping people and sending them to a 238 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 5: foreign country because their skin is darker than ours. The 239 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: people who are either gung ho for that, or they're 240 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 5: okay with it, or they simply don't care. They are 241 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 5: all going to care about, as you said, about if 242 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: the economy crashes and they can't afford things, and they 243 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 5: look at their dolls. Well, that's the other thing. It's like, 244 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: I'm older. Remember I was working at Fox News when 245 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 5: Bernie Sanders said something about you know, it was about 246 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 5: deodor it's and he was talking about how you go 247 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 5: into a drug store and they are like, you know, 248 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 5: thirty forty different brands of deodorant. He's like, that's crazy, 249 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 5: we don't need that. And the outrage at Fox News 250 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 5: when he said this, how dare he? How dare he 251 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 5: say we don't need all those choices? That's capitalism. And 252 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: we've gone from that to of course, the same people 253 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: who were saying that supporting the president who is out 254 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 5: there saying, you know, you only need two dolls. 255 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: It's funny because on this podcast you're about to hear 256 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: me interview Andy Beshore. 257 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: It's Andy Day, It's Andy Day on whatever his politics. 258 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: And Andy said, it's not the difference between thirty five 259 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: dollars and two dollars. It's the difference between two dollars 260 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: and no dolls. And as someone who really has come 261 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: from a lot of privilege, it didn't occur to me 262 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: because as much as I, you know, understand that people 263 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: who have less than I do, or who have been 264 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: discriminated again, have a harder time. In some ways, it 265 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: didn't occur to me. I was as much guilty of 266 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: the Trump affluent affluenza, you know, the way of thinking, 267 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: as as anyone, because I thought there, you know, I thought, well, 268 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: that's not a message anyone's going to like. But what 269 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Andy Bushers said is exactly right. It's it's not it's 270 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: two dollars or no dolls, and and we're going to 271 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: have and there's going to be a Christmas where because 272 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: we already see the shipping, and we already see China 273 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: and the toy manufacturing, and we just saw Mattel saying 274 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: toys are going to be more expensive. So this is 275 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: not going to be a you know, they're a two 276 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: dollars versus thirty five dollars Christmas. It's going to be 277 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: people without toys. 278 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and our children, not. 279 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: People children, right, children or adults without toys. 280 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 5: Adult adults gonna have toys. 281 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: If you're an adult and you don't get anything for Christmas, 282 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: it is not that you are not talking about in 283 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: therapy twenty years later. 284 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: Wow, okay, Gritch, I just want to say that, you know, 285 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 5: when we're talking about adults, we don't call them dollars. 286 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 5: We call them action figures. That's very important. 287 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: PlayStation four five, thank you seven. It's going to be 288 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: more expensive. 289 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: I know. I'm glad I have it already, and I've 290 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 5: been talking to some other people about this, and I 291 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 5: am like convincing myself to buy stuff now that I 292 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: don't necessarily need, but like, you know, know that I 293 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: kind of want because I'm like, it's it's only smart 294 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: to buy it now before these tariffs really kick in. 295 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: I'm saving myself money, is what I'm doing. I'm being 296 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 5: smart by buying all these things. 297 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: Now. 298 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: If we're going into our own mental on this for 299 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: a minute, I was saying, when are we not you 300 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: and I together, we're just diving into mental in this here. 301 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: But I was like, you know, I need more paper towels, 302 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: like the tariffs are going to hit the paper. 303 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 5: House right Well, the tariffs may not, but the shelves 304 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 5: may be bare. 305 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, so I was like, I'm going to need 306 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: to buy seventy dollars worth of paper house right now. 307 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: Look, everything I've been reading is that. And as you 308 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 5: alluded to the shipping earlier, that you know the ports 309 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 5: are not as crowded as they were, and they're they're 310 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 5: continuing the ports in America and they're continuing to become 311 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 5: less and less crowded. And you know, I've seen people 312 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 5: talking about how as early as later this month, we're 313 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 5: going to really be noticing it at at the store, 314 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: you know. So my I think my point here is 315 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: that I may be stopping by Molly to get some paper. 316 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: Talks, and I may not be giving them. You know him, 317 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: I think, no, no. 318 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: You. 319 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: During COVID too, You're like, I'm order surrounded. You made 320 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 5: like a toilet paper roll for it. 321 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: And you. 322 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: The episode of CARB where they go into the closet 323 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: and they realize that that once his name is in order, 324 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: he's such a great guy, but he's actually he's got 325 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: all the toilet paper. And it's incredible when you think 326 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: about it, that we have made the stupidest person in 327 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: America president and then we have made him the most powerful. 328 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: President in modern political history. 329 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 5: I've always felt that sometimes there are like the president 330 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 5: can only do so much with the economy, and I 331 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: feel like sometimes presidents get too much blame or too 332 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 5: much credit for the state of the economy. But with 333 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: what's happening now and what's gonna probably continue to happen. 334 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 5: This is solely Donald Trump's fault. I mean, it's it's 335 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 5: nobody else's fault, not counting to sycophants around him and 336 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 5: in the Republican Congress. But this is this is like 337 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 5: a self made recession which may turn into a self 338 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 5: made global depression, all because of this one guy. It's 339 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 5: really I don't think it has a like there's no 340 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 5: reference point for this in our lives. I don't think 341 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 5: molly like, well, we could say this, oh, this is 342 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 5: just like when this president did that. Like, there's really 343 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 5: I can't think of one. 344 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean, COVID a little bit, right, we saw it coming, 345 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: but again it was in once in a lifetime pandemic, right, 346 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: So that in a sense is a little bit different. 347 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: It's not the same at all. 348 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: But like the credit crisis, we were saved by a 349 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: president who understood because that could have turned into I mean, 350 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: obviously the way it was done, a lot of people 351 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: didn't like bailing out the banks, and perhaps there would 352 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: have been a way. I think what we saw, what 353 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: Biden learned from it was that you should bail out 354 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: everyone if you're going to bail out the banks, you 355 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: got to bail out also small businesses. Now, the problem 356 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: is when you start bailing out small businesses, you open 357 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: yourself to PPE fraud. By the way, so many people 358 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: in Trump world got PPE loans, I mean incredible numbers. 359 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: And then when you open the door to like paying 360 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: out small businesses, why are you not paying out student loans? 361 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: You know, you really do sort of open the door 362 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: to moral re love. And see, there have been many 363 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: times in sort of Trump's first term where I thought, oh, 364 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: he's not going to do that. He's not going to 365 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: do that, He's not going to do that, and that 366 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: he was sort of talked out of it. That's what 367 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: we saw earlier this month with the public markets, that 368 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: he was talked out of it. Eventually, the hope is 369 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: that that will happen again. But when you listen to 370 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: him talking to Mark Karney, it seems as if he 371 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: still doesn't understand. 372 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: That he's wrong. 373 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh for sure, he absolutely doesn't understand that he's wrong. 374 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 5: And when we talk about him being talked out of things, 375 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 5: I don't think that's fully accurate because I think what 376 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 5: ends up happening is like he names some outrageous figure 377 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 5: like we're gonna put a one hundred percent tariff on this, 378 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: and people are like, you know, the markets react to 379 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 5: that badly. People are like, oh, this is a bad idea. 380 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 5: And then he says, all right, we're only going to 381 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 5: do twenty percent, and still like, but that's still wrong. Yeah, 382 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 5: Like that's still not good. It's just that we are 383 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 5: being conditioned by you know, him going to this far 384 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 5: extreme and then when he comes back a little, we're like, oh, okay, 385 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 5: see he listens, but it's like, no, because he shouldn't. 386 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 5: He shouldn't be doing these things at all. And and 387 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 5: you know, look, I don't know. I think at a 388 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 5: certain point he is going to stop piling things back because, 389 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 5: as you said, he is convinced that he is right 390 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 5: and it doesn't matter how many people tell him he's wrong. 391 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 5: I mean we saw that even with a lot of 392 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 5: the tariffs that even Elon Musk was like, I don't 393 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 5: want him to be doing this, and he didn't really care. 394 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Is Elon Musk still running Doge? What is Doge doing? 395 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: And why are we not hearing about it every die? 396 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 397 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 5: No, that's a good question. I guess they did have 398 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 5: that little press conference with big balls. Yeah it's big balls, 399 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 5: we know a couple days ago. But look, I think 400 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 5: Musk is a little scared. I think he's a little 401 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 5: scared of that move by the Tesla shareholders or the 402 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 5: board to you know, maybe replace him if he doesn't 403 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 5: dial it back. And I think that that is the 404 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 5: sole reason that he hasn't been as public with the 405 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 5: Doge stuff. But also, I mean, look, they talked about 406 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 5: dose as going to have all this transparency, and they 407 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 5: launched that ridiculous website with the supposed dollars amazing, right, 408 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 5: but that even on their own website, like that dollar 409 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 5: figure is shrinking, like their supposed savings, and it's like, 410 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 5: you know, I was going to say, we are learning, 411 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: but we already knew this. But the people who didn't 412 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: understand that Elon Musk just pedals absolute lies and nonsense 413 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 5: for a living. That's and I mean that for real, 414 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 5: Like that's literally what he does talking about. I think 415 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 5: it's been now fifteen years where he said we're going 416 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 5: to be on Mars in five years. 417 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite is what it would you like? Would 418 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: you like to take nine minutes to get to Boston? Right? 419 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 5: So he makes these outrageous promises because he's a huckster, 420 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 5: and he's a he's ultimately he's a grifter and and 421 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 5: he sells these dreams. 422 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: The richest man in the world. 423 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's worked for him. 424 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: Because it's worked with the government. I mean, what kind 425 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: of indictment does this our federal government, that this guy 426 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: has gotten to be the richism in the world basically 427 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: through government subsidies. 428 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. I've been saying this for a long time, Like, 429 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 5: this didn't start with Donald Trump. 430 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was shut it down Democratic. 431 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, this was Democratic administrations working with Elon Musk giving 432 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 5: him these contracts. The oligarchy works for both parties. 433 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, shut it down, Back it up, Andy Levy, you 434 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: know what time it is, time to end, Time to 435 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: end the podcast. 436 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: Okay, perhaps you'll come back. 437 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 5: Perhaps I will. 438 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: I would love to. 439 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: All Right, we'll see you soon. 440 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: Andy Burscher is the governor of Kentucky. 441 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Fast Politics. Governor Burshare, very excited to be here. 442 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 6: Thanks for the invitation. 443 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: There's this amazing moment of you building a house and 444 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: talking about building. 445 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: The house in Kentucky. 446 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: So can you give me the context of why you're 447 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: rebuilding or building in Kentucky. 448 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 2: What the story behind that was. 449 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 6: Kentucky, we have been hammered by natural disasters fourteen federally 450 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 6: declared disasters since I'm a king governor, that's over five 451 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 6: and a half years. We have the worst tornadoes in 452 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 6: our history. Wiped out my dad's hometown of Dawson Springs, 453 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 6: and we're rebuilding there. But in July of twenty twenty two, 454 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 6: we had the worst flooding that we've ever seen. It 455 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 6: killed forty five people, which I mean doesn't happen in floods, 456 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 6: and wiped out thousands upon thousands of homes. So we 457 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 6: embarked on what is the I think the most challenging 458 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 6: rebuild that we've seen in America. That's moving people from 459 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: the valleys where it floods to the top of abandoned 460 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 6: coal mines. We go in and we test them, we 461 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 6: make sure that the ground is solid. And we have 462 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 6: seven of these projects all across eastern Kentucky in the 463 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 6: heart of Appalachia, where we are building homes on high 464 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: ground that will never ever flood. We'll address affordable housing 465 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 6: at the same time, but most importantly, we're giving people 466 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 6: who lost everything a forever home. I got to tell 467 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 6: you, you see lots of great things as governor, but watching 468 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 6: kids walk through for the first time a new home 469 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 6: and pick out their rooms after being displaced for a 470 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 6: couple of years is where I see God. You see 471 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 6: this amazing joy and resiliency of these children, but just 472 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 6: a new fresh start. It was very difficult to put together. 473 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 6: But wanting to actually solve a problem and not have 474 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: to face this type of flooding again. 475 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: Part of what makes governors popular and what makes them 476 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: perhaps even more set up for higher office is that 477 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: you are able to solve logistical infrastructure problems. 478 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: So clearly you are a state that. 479 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: Has been battered by climate issues, right, what other kind 480 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: of infrastructure problems are you addressing and how well? 481 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 6: A great thing about being a governor, and I think 482 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 6: what differentiates us from just about any other office is 483 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 6: we get things done and people see it. They can 484 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 6: be a part of it. You know, you are so 485 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 6: vested in your state every day on trying to make 486 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 6: life better, and if you're doing it, you're trying to 487 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 6: make life better for everyone. And investing in infrastructure helps democrats, republicans, independents. 488 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 6: It it just builds a better life for everyone. So 489 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 6: right now we're engaged in three mega projects around our state, 490 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 6: the most we've ever done at one time. We're building 491 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 6: the Brent Spence Companion Bridge in northern Kentucky. President Biden 492 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 6: came down to help make that announcement. That's one of 493 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 6: the most traveled thoroughfares in the country, and the existing 494 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 6: bridge isn't enough. We've got an I sixty nine project 495 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 6: that's going to open up parts of Indiana and western Kentucky. 496 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 6: But then we have the Mountain Parkway, which is the 497 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 6: first four lane highway into Appalachio, which is going to 498 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 6: open up the possibility of manufacturing, which requires a four 499 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 6: lane highway to ship in and out. And so this 500 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 6: will be the first time in our history that this 501 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 6: is possible with a workforce that is there. Workforce that 502 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 6: help build America, but America left behind, and so we're 503 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 6: really excited about what that possibility means. The other infrastructure 504 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 6: that's helping all of Kentucky but can make a huge 505 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 6: difference in eastern Kentucky. It's high speed internet and that 506 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 6: solves so many challenges, from educational opportunities to creating your 507 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 6: own business. It has a chance when we finally get 508 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 6: the bead money of being transformational across Kentucky and all 509 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 6: of America, but especially rural America. As we build to 510 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 6: be more resilient after floods and tornadoes. We've got to 511 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 6: rebuild the bridges stronger, capable of standing up to one 512 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 6: hundred year flood every five or ten years. We've got 513 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 6: to build our roads in a way to where they 514 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 6: don't cave and wash away, especially our water and our 515 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 6: wastewater systems. Most people don't know that when it floods, 516 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 6: the pressure of that comes through and it bursts all 517 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 6: those pipes and it's millions upon millions of dollars of damage, 518 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 6: and that makes the flooding worse because it can't take 519 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 6: the water out and away. And so knowing that climate 520 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 6: change is real, and I'm the first governor of Kentucky 521 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 6: who said out loud that climate change is real, because 522 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 6: it is. Ask any farmer, us the US military. We 523 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 6: know that the next probably ten years of ramifications are 524 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 6: going to happen. Hopefully we can change the ten years 525 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 6: after that, and so making sure we're building to protect 526 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 6: our people from all of these challenges. But aside from infrastructure, 527 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 6: there's a lot of human talent out there helping us 528 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 6: and very worried about cuts from the Trump administration on 529 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: what that means. The National Weather Service has saved so 530 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 6: many lives. 531 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask about that because you have people 532 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: who are in rural areas where if they can't see 533 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: what's coming, they could die. 534 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: Can you talk us through that? 535 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, and in the urban areas too. The National Weather 536 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 6: Service is an amazing group of people that are constantly 537 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 6: watching for the next batch of bad weather. They gave 538 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 6: us a heads up on our February flooding, which was massive. 539 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 6: We saved one thousand people in the first twenty four 540 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 6: hours because the National Weather Service told us when it 541 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 6: would happen and where it would happen, and so we 542 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 6: pre positioned all these swift water teams in their boats 543 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 6: ready to go before the storm ever hit. That's what 544 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 6: the National Weather Service allows you to do. We only 545 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: lost a couple people because of the direct flooding. We 546 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 6: lost some more because they tried to drive through high water, 547 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 6: which I wish people wouldn't ever try to do. But 548 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 6: the National Weather Service saves lives by allowing you to prepare. 549 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 6: And they not only talked to us they talked to 550 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 6: all the meteorologists at all the stations, they talk to 551 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 6: the radio stations, and so we're able to get this 552 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 6: information out and people are able to prepare, to get 553 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: ready to go stay with relatives. But what we're seeing 554 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 6: in our massive cuts and concerns that we wouldn't have 555 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 6: twenty four seven three sixty five coverage in an area 556 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 6: that has to have that everyday coverage. 557 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: You are a Democrat a red state as a governor. 558 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: We've seen when Democratic governors are in red states they 559 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: tend to do extremely well. This is not always true, 560 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: but like I'm thinking about Cooper, there are just a 561 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: number of these blue governors in red states. But you've 562 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: really had a lot of success in Kentucky, and you 563 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: sort of talk us through why that is and how 564 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: you have people who have voted for you who have 565 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: never voted for Democrats, and just talk to me about 566 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: how that works and how you are able to sort 567 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: of let them know you're there for them despite if 568 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: they are a Trumper or anything like that. 569 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 6: Being a successful governor is about being a governor for everyone, 570 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 6: and I think that starts with the same type of focus. 571 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 6: I'd like the entire Democratic Party, and for that matter, 572 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 6: the Republican Party to adopt. And that's been an eighty 573 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 6: percent of your time on the core concerns that people 574 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 6: wake up thinking about and go to bed worried about. 575 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 6: And that starts with your job, whether you make enough 576 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 6: to support your family. We brought in a record amount 577 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 6: of private sector investment. We've created more jobs than under 578 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 6: any other governor, the highest wages. We've broken our ex 579 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 6: sports record, We've broken our tourism record. It shows you 580 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 6: that Democrats can manage an economy and in fact help 581 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 6: a state or a country thrive. I think the second 582 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 6: piece that people worry about is their next doctor's appointment 583 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 6: for themselves, or their parents or their kids. I've been 584 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 6: able to expand Medicaid in ways where we have increased 585 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 6: access all over Kentucky. We just built our first hospital 586 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 6: in Kentucky's largest African American community in one hundred and 587 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 6: fifty years. First time people haven't had to take multiple 588 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 6: buses or drive across town to see a specialist, much 589 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 6: less their primary care doctor. I think people worry about 590 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: the roads and bridges they drive every day. They worry 591 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 6: about the public school they drop their kids off at, 592 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 6: and they worry about public safety in their communities, not 593 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 6: just whether they are safe under the statistic, but whether 594 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 6: they feel safe. And when you concentrate all those things, 595 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 6: people feel better about their lives because you've worked to 596 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 6: better their lives. And when you're doing that, I think 597 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 6: people will start giving you a second look. But I 598 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 6: think there's two other things that you have to do 599 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 6: at the same time. Number one is you've got to 600 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 6: speak to people like a normal human being. We've seen 601 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 6: all these sanitized terms that are out there where you 602 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 6: lose your emotion and what it means. Kentucky has been 603 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 6: racked with addiction that we just announced a thirty percent 604 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 6: decrease in overdose deaths from last year. We've been waiting 605 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 6: for this moment for so long. But for every person 606 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 6: I know that's gone through addiction, and I'm known a lot, 607 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 6: they've never called it substance use disorder. They've called it addiction. 608 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 6: Somebody who's hungry doesn't call it food insecurity, And I 609 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 6: don't think that people push these words meaning to hurt dialogue. 610 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 6: I think they meant it to reduce stigma. But I'm 611 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 6: not sure changing words reduces stigma, changing arts reduce stigma, 612 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 6: So focus talk to people like a real human being. 613 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 6: And the last piece that I think is so important 614 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 6: is explaining your why. We talk a lot in the 615 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 6: Democratic Party about the what, what's our position on this, 616 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 6: what's her nuance on that, what's section A point three? 617 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 6: But what we don't talk about is why. What drives us? 618 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 6: And for me, that's my faith. And when I'm vetoed 619 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 6: the nastiest ANTIOLOGBTQ bill that our state had ever seen 620 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 6: in my election year, I explain why. I mean, I 621 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 6: believe that all children are children of God. And if 622 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 6: I believe that, which I do in my court from 623 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 6: my faith, it's my job to stand up for those 624 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 6: kids when other people are picking on what happened after that, 625 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 6: you know, to show people that politically, when you explain 626 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 6: your why, they'll give you grace and space even if 627 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 6: they disagree with you. I didn't lose a point. In fact, 628 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 6: I have people coming up to me saying I might 629 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 6: not agree with you, but I know you're doing what 630 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 6: you think is right. If you explain your why, people 631 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 6: can disagree with the what, but ultimately still supports you. 632 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: So let's talk about the real talk thing. 633 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: Because I in a little bit of trouble this week 634 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: because I was on with the Democratic Elected and she 635 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: was very McKenzie and she was saying very mckenzy things. 636 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: They're good ideas, right, I mean, there were a number 637 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: of good ideas, but the way she was saying them 638 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: was couched in a lot of very mackenzie kind of 639 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: consultant d language. And when you talk like that, you 640 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: really lose people, including me. 641 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 6: Sounds like you're talking down to people. 642 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also. 643 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: Just think people get very bored by it, and ultimately 644 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: it's not effective. 645 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: So I liked that you talked about addiction. 646 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: I've been sober since I was nineteen, and I think 647 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: a lot about how we treat addiction, and the problem 648 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: of addiction is a huge problem in this country. One 649 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: of the things that I think is really helpful when 650 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: it comes to addiction is just I talk about it 651 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: because I want to reduce stigma. And when you're talking 652 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: about sort of religion, we also have weird stigma about 653 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: religion in this country, and we shouldn't. 654 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 6: Talking about your faith can be why Joshapiro does it too. 655 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 6: We're of different faiths, but we respect each other's. It 656 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 6: can come from your values it can come from how 657 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 6: you were raised. But if you or why deals with 658 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 6: your faith, there are ways to talk about it without 659 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 6: trying to press it on anyone. And the values that 660 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 6: I typically talk about, which is loving your neighbor as yourself, 661 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 6: the parable of the Good Samaritans, saying everybody as your neighbor. 662 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 6: Those are found in all major religions or in all 663 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 6: major value systems. And I think there are things that 664 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 6: people either directly relate to or they appreciate hearing because 665 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 6: it helps them know how you're going to make decisions 666 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 6: on the toughness of issues. 667 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: So let's talk about rural hospitals because you mentioned rural hospitals. 668 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: Medicaid expansion is how you paid for a lot of 669 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: these rural hospitals. TODK goes through medicaid expansion. Why you 670 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: took it, why some red steak governors did not take it, 671 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: and what it means now that Trump is targeting it. 672 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 6: Well, the guy who made medicaid expansion happen in Kentucky 673 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 6: his named Steve Basher. He was my dad. Lost a 674 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 6: governor's race in nineteen eighty seven, won a governor's race 675 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 6: in two thousand and seven, and as a thirty year 676 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 6: old lawyer starting in two thousand and seven. 677 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: I got to. 678 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 6: Watch him work go through the Great Recession. But expanding 679 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 6: Medicaid was game changing, game changing in taking us from 680 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 6: one of the top rates of uninsured or uncovered individuals 681 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 6: to one of the lowest. There were over four hundred 682 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 6: thousand Kentucky and so it got coverage for the first time. 683 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 6: But it's also very humanizing when you see it. One 684 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 6: of the reasons that I got into politics, other than 685 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 6: my kids who deserved a better world than they were 686 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 6: growing up in, was the time I'm standing on an 687 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 6: elevator with my dad while he's governor. The woman walks 688 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 6: in and bursts into tears, and I didn't know what 689 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 6: to do, and she looks at him and says, I'm 690 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 6: alive today because of you. That she couldn't get coverage 691 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 6: until Medicaid expanded, until we took the ACA and created 692 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 6: the gold standard at that time, and she started getting 693 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 6: coverage to deal with a very difficult and chronic issue. 694 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 6: My goodness to see a person alive today because of 695 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 6: that policy decision and thriving tells you that there is 696 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 6: real good that you can do in these jobs. But 697 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 6: then fast forward, I become governor. In three months later, 698 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 6: we get hit by the pandemic, and thank god we'd 699 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 6: expanded Medicaid because Kentucky had rural hospitals with the extra 700 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 6: beds that could take care of people at a time 701 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 6: when we desperately needed it. We set up a field hospital, 702 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 6: but didn't have to use it because our rural hospitals 703 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 6: did an incredible job. They provided a higher level of 704 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 6: care than they were ever designed for. But they were 705 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 6: there and the employees were there, and we have so 706 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 6: many people alive today, both because of regular screenings you 707 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 6: can get in your community, but also having that during 708 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 6: the pandemic. But I think people now see Medicaid for 709 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 6: what it is. Medicaid covers the people we love the 710 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 6: most in the world, our parents and our kids. Half 711 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 6: of Kentucky's kids are covered by Medicaid. Seventy percent of 712 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 6: our long term care call are covered by Medicaid. So 713 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 6: major cuts to Medicaid are going to mean that people 714 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 6: have to take in parents that need extra care. That's 715 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 6: going to purt productivity in the economy. It's going to 716 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 6: be tough on families. It also means our children are 717 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 6: going to be less healthy, which is going to be 718 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 6: a hit to both families and the economy. But then 719 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 6: look at what happens with rural health care. I mean 720 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 6: it will devastate it. Most rural health care will shut down, 721 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 6: and what that means is a huge loss of jobs. 722 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 6: So in most counties that have a rural hospital, it's 723 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 6: the second largest employer behind the public school system. But 724 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 6: then think about the people that live in that county, 725 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 6: because when that hospital shuts down, they're going to have 726 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 6: to drive two hours to go to a doctor's appointment 727 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 6: to see the sane doctor who lost their job in 728 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 6: their hometown and had to move to a bigger city. 729 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 6: And that's whether you're on Medicaid or private insurance. It's 730 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 6: going to hit everyone. 731 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: How will the tariffs effect Kentucky. 732 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 6: Harder than just about any other state? Already seeing it? 733 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 6: You see major employers like UPS announcing twenty thousand layoffs. 734 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 6: Not a ton of those are in Kentucky. But as 735 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 6: we see major employers get hit, that'll hit every community. 736 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 6: But then I see a lot of mid size or 737 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 6: small businesses and they get parts from all over the world. 738 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 6: Then getting parts from all over the world at the 739 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 6: right cost allow them to employ a lot of Kentuckians, 740 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 6: a lot of Americans, allow them to grow and add 741 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 6: more jobs. But as the costs are going up and 742 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 6: they know they can't pass all that to the consumer 743 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 6: because then it'd make it unaffordable, they're having to lay 744 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 6: people off. And when a small business lays people off, 745 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 6: it's somebody they may go to church with, their kids, 746 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 6: may play on a baseball team together. It shows you 747 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 6: how hard this is hitting the American people. And then 748 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 6: the way it'll tax our families. Now, if it hits 749 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 6: our families at that forty six hundred dollars number that 750 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 6: I think the Yale study had out there, that blows 751 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 6: a hole in a budget you can't make up for. 752 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 6: And so what that means is a president that was 753 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 6: elected because the last group of voters thought he'd make 754 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 6: paying the bills easier are going to be fully betrayed, 755 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 6: and it's going to be that much harder. And these 756 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 6: comments that people could use less toys, I guess during 757 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 6: Christmas coming out of a billionaire's mouth, thirty seven versus two. 758 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 6: Most Americans can't afford thirty seven toys for their kids. 759 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 6: It's the difference between a few and none. 760 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I think that's important. 761 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: How do you talk to you know, you are the 762 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: governor of the state where a lot of people voted 763 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: for Trump. 764 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: How do you welcome those people back into the fold? 765 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: How do you say, like, I get the impulse because 766 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: he offered to make things cheaper, but everything's getting more expensive. 767 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 6: Well, first thing I won't ever do is judge people 768 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 6: by how they voted. I'll never talk down to people 769 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 6: about how they voted. This is a democracy, it's their right, 770 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 6: and I want people to go out and to vote. 771 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 6: But what I can do is speak out about the policies, 772 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 6: and you've got to do it with credibility. Now, there 773 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 6: are a lot of questions going around about how should 774 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 6: you engage with this administration. Well, the first thing is 775 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 6: if you're speaking out, you've got to have credibility. If 776 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 6: the administration does something good, you've got to admit it. 777 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 6: Their FEMA response in Kentucky has actually been very good, 778 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 6: which is ironic wanting to dismantle parts of FEMA when 779 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 6: it's actually operating on the ground better than I've seen it. 780 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 6: And I've seen a lot of FEMA operatings. But then 781 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 6: you look at tariffs and their impact, the chaos that's 782 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 6: caused in the market, the fact that the stock market, 783 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 6: the bond market, the value of the dollar all going down, 784 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 6: concerns about GDP and the rest of the economy. I mean, 785 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 6: these are terrible policies that have hit the economy harder 786 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 6: than any policy I've ever seen from a president in 787 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 6: my lifetime. And I've also never seen something that is 788 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 6: so directly attributable to one person, because the president has 789 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 6: owned these tariffs. He held up that board, which is 790 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 6: I think a picture he's going to regret. 791 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Governor Bushire. 792 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 6: Oh very much enjoyed it. Thanks for having me on. 793 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 3: No Moxec, Jesse Cannon, Mai junk Fast. We have been 794 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 3: covering the subject. We've had Justice Riggs down in North 795 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 3: Carolina on many a time on this podcast because we 796 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 3: believe that this is truly gross what the Republicans have 797 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 3: been doing, and unprecedented, but it looks like a happy 798 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 3: ending maybe coming our way in America. Molly, what do 799 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 3: you think of that concept. 800 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to feel better until she's sworn in, 801 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: but it seems as if Justice Riggs this may finally 802 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: be over right. The Republican lost and was like, no, 803 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: I didn't lose, and so real classy stuff here by 804 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: a Republicans. So the federal judge says results in North 805 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 1: Carolina court race with Democrat ahead must be certified. So 806 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: this justice says that it's. 807 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: Over, so we'll see what happens. 808 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: I hope that it's over and that she gets sworn 809 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: in because she did win. And as much as it's 810 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: fun for Republicans to feel that they can fight back 811 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: when they don't win, this is really not how it's 812 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: supposed to work. 813 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: That's it for. 814 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: This episode of Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, 815 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: and Saturday to hear the best minds and politics make 816 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: sense of all this chaos. If you enjoy this podcast, 817 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: please send it to a friend and keep the conversation going. 818 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.