1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome to BLEEP. I'm Ana Navarro. Thanks for 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: being here. We've got a great show planned for you today. 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Senator Corey Booker is here and we are going to 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: talk to him about a lot of things, including his 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: new book. I loved this new book. I call it 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Chicken Soup for the soul. It is called Stand. We're 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: also going to talk to him about the things that 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: are in the news, Iran, the savat Cuba, and more. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: But first I want to start with some good news. 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: So last week Democrats won two seats, flipped two seats 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: that were held by Republicans. These are seats that are 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: in Florida. They were special elections. One of the seats 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: is in Palm Beach, actually the district where Donald Trump 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: claims residency, where Mara Lago is. And this was a 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: seat one by m Gregory. She was running for the 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: first time. She has got a healthcare and fitness background. 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: She grew up in Stuart and this woman ran in 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: what is a solid Republican seat. 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: The person holding. 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: The seat, the Republican holding the seat before her had 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: won this race by nineteen points. Donald Trump won this 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: district by eleven points, and this woman was able to 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: flip it and put it in Democrat hands last week. 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: That is something that needs to be celebrated. But it's 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: not the only seat in Florida that went for Democrats 26 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: and flipped. There's also a seat in West Tampa that 27 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: was won by Brian Nathan and he won the seat 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: by four hundred plus votes, just four hundred plus votes. 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I think it's important for us to realize that. I 30 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: know a lot of times we feel a little hopeless 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: and think that one vote doesn't matter. Race just showed 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: that one vote does matter. He is winning by a 33 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: little bit over half a percentage point, which means it 34 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: takes it out of the recount margin and he's won. 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: And this is a big deal, and I think something 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: we need to think about and reflect about. A lot 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: of times, I feel like that when we talk about 38 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: places like Texas or Florida. 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: We just give up on them. 40 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Oh, those are red states, those are Republican states, those 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: are solid red states. That's not how things work. It's 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: not how they've always been, and things change. Look, I've 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: been in Florida for forty seven years. When I got 44 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: to Florida as a kid in nineteen eighty Florida was 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: solid blue. Every state level position was held by Democrats 46 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: from the governor on down. It then became purple and 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: now it is red. That doesn't mean that if you 48 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: put in the work, that doesn't mean that if you 49 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: show up and vote, if you get great candidates, if 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: the candidates can paign their hearts out. 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: You can change things. Things can flip. We do the 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: same thing about Texas. Right. 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: People always say, oh, why spend any money or any 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: time talking about Texas. Texas is solid red. I am 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: old enough to remember when the governor of Texas was 56 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: Ann Richard, a Democrat. So my point to you is, 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: don't just shrug your shoulders. Don't just give up because 58 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: you think something's always going to be Republican or something's 59 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: always going to be Democrat. That's not the case. There's 60 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: demographic changes, there's candidates with problems and great candidates, and 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: you know what, there's precedents who are who lift all 62 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: the candidates, and there's presidents who are in albatross around candidates. 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: Next. 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in albatross around Republicans next. And I 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: hope this serves as a wake up call, particularly for 66 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: the Republicans in Washington, DC, that instead of serving their constituents, 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: instead of caring about the priorities of their constituents, instead 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: of caring about the price of gas, about peace in 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: the Middle East, about the price of groceries, about access 70 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: to healthcare, they care about one thing, and one thing, 71 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: only serving their leader, Donald Trump. So this should serve 72 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: as a red flag for all of those Republicans, all 73 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: of those lap dogs, sorry, Chacha, not talking about you, 74 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: those lap dogs in Washington that have no other purpose 75 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: than showing up to do whatever the hell Donald Trump 76 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: asks them to do and wants them to do. They 77 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: are going to lose their seats. A lot of them 78 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: are going to lose. And it may mean that Democrats 79 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: regain the House and Democrats regain the Senate and there 80 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: will finally be some oversight and some pushback against the 81 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: Trump administration and his abuses of power. And in the 82 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: same way, they should serve as a wake up call 83 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: for Republicans in Congress, it should also serve as motivation 84 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: for those who want to see change change at the 85 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: local level, at the state level, and at the federal level, 86 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: that you vote, your engagement, your showing up matters and 87 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: can make a difference. So speak up, show up, and 88 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: more than anything, register to vote and get ready to 89 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: get yourself and everybody in your Silcral voting this November. 90 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Talking about motivation, I am so pleased to have. 91 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: Corey Booker on with us this week. 92 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: His book is called Stand I listened actually to it 93 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: on Audible, and I was so happy to have listened 94 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: to it because it's a love letter to America, to 95 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: American values. It helps to motivate us at a time 96 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: when so many are feeling hopeless and helpless. So with that, 97 00:05:52,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: Corey Booker is joining us right after this break. I 98 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: want to welcome Senator Corey Booker. He's now the senior 99 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: senator from the state of New Jersey. He is a 100 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: public servant. And we're going to talk about hope and 101 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: values and integrity, and we're also going to talk about 102 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: current events. So welcome Senator Corey Booker. Long you know, Corey, 103 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: I love alliteration as much as you do, and you 104 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: are fucking fantastic, fabulous and fears. 105 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: So let's get to work. 106 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: There's issues I want to talk to you about that 107 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: are in the news, and then I want to talk 108 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: to you about this amazing book that I finished reading 109 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: last night. I have loved every page of it. But 110 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: first let's talk about the stuff that's going on. Obviously, listen, 111 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: we've now been at war with Iran, because let's call 112 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: it a war. This is not an excursion. This is 113 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: a war. We've now been at war with Iran for 114 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: over a month. Tell me how in the hell are 115 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: we at war where they're on and how in the 116 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: hell are we getting out of war with they'reon? 117 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: What is this? How do you make sense of this? 118 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: Well, we're at war because we have a president who 119 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: promised over and over again he would not get us 120 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: into wars. He was competing for the Nobel Peace Prize 121 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: for crying out loud, and suddenly he's decided that he's 122 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: going to be an adventurist, warmongering president that has no 123 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: justifiable provocation. He lied to us. He said, Oh, it's 124 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: to deal with the nuclear material. Well, the facile material 125 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: is still there. You're not going to get it through 126 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: the bombing campaign he's done. He said, Oh, it's because 127 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: they're slaughtering their citizens. Well, that is something that is 128 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: now more likely to happen because they have a more 129 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: radical regime. Even though he said there was going to 130 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: be regime change, but he's changed it for his worse 131 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: So again, no reason we got into this and then 132 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: getting out of it. He has no off ramp. What 133 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: he's caused is more global chaos, more high rising costs 134 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: for Americans, and has no real plan for getting out 135 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: of this, with leaving things worse for Americans and worse 136 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: for that region and our allies. This is a disastrous folly, 137 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: but it is who Donald Trump is. He brings chaos, confusion, corruption, 138 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: and cruelty in the United States now a broadest way, 139 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: but I. 140 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Think something that frustrates a lot of Americans, a lot 141 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: of voters, is that there's something called the War Powers Act, 142 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: and it seems that it's pretty moot that it's that 143 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: it has no value. You might as well use it 144 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: to line bird cages because practically every precedent in my 145 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: adult lifetime has gone into some country done military action 146 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: without coming to Congress and asking for permission. So what's 147 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: the point of even having a War Powers Act? 148 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel the same way. We've allowed the power 149 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: that was given to the art of one branch government, 150 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: Congress to declare war to start to really shift away 151 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: as each president has run more bombing campaigns and things 152 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: like that. Those were wrong, But that is like lighting matches. 153 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: What Donald Trump is doing is throwing grenades. He has 154 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: entered us into the biggest military conflict since the war 155 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: in Afghanistan. That's cost us literally six thirteen lives. Already, 156 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: two hundred plus soldiers have been injured. This has cost 157 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: us already over twenty five billion dollars. You could have 158 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: gotten millions of Americans in affordable housing for that cost, 159 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: not to mention millions of Americans could have gotten healthcare. 160 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: But on top of all of that that he's done 161 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: without approvals is he's set off the biggest oil shock, 162 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 3: the biggest oil crisis since the nineteen seventies. In fact, 163 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: it's more than both oil crises in the early seventies combined. 164 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 3: And so this is something so much bigger on scale 165 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: than anything in the previous president has done. And he's 166 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: already telling us, and you've heard this, that I'm I 167 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: did Venezuela, now Iran. Now next I'm going to take Cuba. 168 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: Well what does that mean that you're going to commit 169 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: American troops to invading that country as well? Well, this 170 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: is reckless out of control and it has to stop. 171 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: So, you know, I Trump supporters always call anybody that 172 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: dares criticize Trump and call out his abuses of power. 173 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: They say that we suffer from Trump derangement syndrome. I 174 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: think Trump has Venezuela derangement syndrome. I think because he 175 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: went into Venezuela, extricated Maduro and then found somebody within 176 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: that regime because that regime was intact. But for Maduro, 177 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: he found the vice president to work with. He thinks 178 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: he can replicate that model everywhere, and I think it's 179 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: emboldened him, and he thinks he's Tarzan of the Jungle 180 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: and is you know, ahead of the biggest, baddest military 181 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: force in the world. And so he's going around trying 182 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: to replicate the model. It's obviously not working in Iran. 183 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: And as you make reference to, he's talking about taking Cuba, 184 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: doing whatever he wants with Cuba. We know that there 185 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: is a blockade right now and that the Cuban people 186 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: living in Cuba are going through dire, dire straits. They're 187 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: really in a critical situation. I know New Jersey, I 188 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: live in Florida. That's where the most Cuban Americans live. 189 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: You represent New Jersey. That's where the second biggest community 190 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: of Cuban Americans in the United States lives. And so 191 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what your constituents are telling you, because Corey, 192 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings about this. I desperately want Cuba 193 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: to be free. I desperately want Venezuela to be free. 194 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: I want democratic elections. I want people not to be 195 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: put in jail for speaking freely. I want there to 196 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: be a freedom of the press. More than anything, I 197 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: want all the political prisoners released. I feel the same 198 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: way about Venezuela. I feel the same way about Iran. 199 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Cuba. But it's the 200 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: way that we're going about this right. So I'm wondering 201 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: what your constituents, your Cuban American constituents, are telling you, 202 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: and what you're telling them. I, more than you. 203 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: Know, I appreciate it, and I think you're spot on. 204 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: Let's not make any apologies. These were bad regimes of 205 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: Venezuelan regime was doing horrific things to the rights and freedoms, 206 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: the human rights and freedoms of the Venezuelan people. But 207 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: that regime is still there and I hear Venezuelans in 208 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: my community saying that he has not brought about any 209 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: substantive change or relief from the human rights abuses of 210 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: that regime. Number two is Iran. It's the same thing. 211 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: It's a more of an extreme regime. You need to 212 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: have a plan. Now. It is absurd right now that 213 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 3: this president has literally by lifting sanctions on Iran, giving 214 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: them fourteen billion dollars more in money. Remember they were 215 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: criticizing Democrats for the JCPOA, the Iran deal and giving 216 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: them millions of dollars. So this is a president who 217 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: has shown no capacity to alleviate suffering if that was 218 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: what he wanted to do, and he's now giving billions 219 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: of dollars more to the very regime he says he's attacking. 220 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if we've ever had a moment where 221 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: an American president was attacking an enemy and then funded 222 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: that enemy to the tune of fourteen billion dollars. And 223 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: so does that give you any confidence that Donald Trump 224 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: can deal with the human rights crisis in Cuba. Everybody 225 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: that I talk to has lost faith in this president 226 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: and his ability to actually solve global problems, to be 227 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: a global leader. I know the situation in Cuba. Well, 228 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: you and I have mutual friends who have taught me 229 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: for years about how repressive brutal this regime is in Cuba. 230 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: We should not in any way candy coat what people 231 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: are living with under in that regime and how the 232 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: communities are struggling there even to meet basic needs right now. 233 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: But to trust Donald Trump that his reckless, chaotic havoc 234 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: that he's been creating around the globe is going to 235 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: resolve that regime, to me, would be again repeating the 236 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: same mistake over and over and over again. And I 237 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: think people want real leadership to end the crisis we 238 00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: have with Cuba. 239 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: There's all these reports that they have been talking to 240 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: the grandson of Raoul Castro. 241 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? 242 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: After almost seventy years of Castro dictatorship, you're going to 243 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: start negotiating with Castro's grandson. I mean, those are things 244 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: that you know, are just galling to me as somebody 245 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: who has fought that regime, and you know the same 246 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: way that I fought it in Nicaraua, my home country, 247 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: practically my entire life. But I want to talk to 248 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: you also about Donald Trump's number one priority right. 249 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: Now, right, so you know what his number one priority is. 250 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Right now, we are at war with people can't afford groceries, 251 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: people can't afford gas, people can't afford health care. Everything's 252 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: gone to shit. But his one priority, his number one 253 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: priority that he's saying you've got to pass this or else, 254 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: is the same Act. So why, first of all, why 255 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: isn't his number one priority? 256 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: What is going on in that little head of. 257 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: His The only thing I can suspect is he is 258 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: looking at a massive electoral loss in the midterms. And 259 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: remember when he was looking at that loss, the first 260 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: thing he tried to do unprecedented is mid term of redistricting, 261 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: pushing states to jerry mander their maps so that they 262 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: could pick up more house seats. Well, we know it 263 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: seems like he can't win in a fair fight, so 264 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: he's trying to change the system. I love what Lisa Murkowski, 265 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: a Republican senator from Alaska, showed to give the speech 266 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: on the floor, where should put a map of Alaska there? 267 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: And showed what the Save Act would do, the hardships 268 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: it would put on people to try to get registered 269 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: to vote under the new rules, it would cost them hundreds, 270 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: if not thousands of dollars, because in Alaska he would 271 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: have to fly someplace in order to present the documentation 272 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: that Donald Trump now demands. It would be easier to 273 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: buy an AR fifteen than it would for many Americans 274 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: to vote. This is a voter suppression bill, and he's 275 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: saying is to say voting when we all know the 276 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: evidence of in person voter fraud is scant, if at all. 277 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: Even conservative thing tanks have said there is no in 278 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: person voter fraud going on in any kind of way. 279 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: That even blips significance less than zero zero, zero zero 280 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: one percent, You're more likely to be struck by lightning 281 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: than to find one case a voter fraud in America. 282 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: So he is trying to instead create a scheme which 283 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: he knows would suppress the vote. It's the only way 284 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: he thinks he can win in the midterms. 285 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: And it's also serving us a distraction, right, He's giving 286 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: his base something to get all riled up about at 287 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: the same time that he's not releasing the Epstein files, 288 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: at the same time that he's lied to them about 289 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: not getting into endless wars. So, you know, I think 290 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: it's I think it's as voter suppression, and I think 291 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: it's a distraction tactic for me. Practically everything that Donald 292 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: Trump does has a distraction aspect to it. But okay, 293 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: let's get to this wonderful book of yours, because I 294 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed it so much, and I you know, I find 295 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: that as it's to me, it was like a love 296 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: letter to those of us that are feeling helpless and hopeless. 297 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: It was it served as a as a motivation and 298 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: just to charge our engines up and remind us why 299 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: we need to fight for American values and American democracy. 300 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: It's so it's called Stand and there's so many aspects 301 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: of it that touched me deeply. But I want to 302 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: start with a conversation that you had with a man 303 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: that was a hero to me and a friend of mine, 304 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: and that was Senator John McCain. And in that conversation 305 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: John McCain, you went to visit him in his office 306 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: and John McCain explained to you the difference between being 307 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: a statesman or a politician. And you know, I think 308 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: that conversation affected you enormously because I think you have 309 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: done everything in your power, including criticizing your own party 310 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: when you have to to be a statesman, not a politician. 311 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: So can you tell me about that conversation and the 312 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: effect of it on you. 313 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel really blessed that one of my early 314 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: mentors in the Senate was John McCain, and he was 315 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 3: such an honest man. In that conversation, Bill Bradley had 316 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: given me the advice when I get down to Washington, 317 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: try to go out to dinner, have lunch, or meet 318 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: with every one of your Republican colleagues. New Jersey doesn't 319 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: need you to be a great Democratic senator. They need 320 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: you to be a great New Jersey senator. And to 321 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: get things done, you've got to work across the aisle. 322 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: And so it was a great odyssey. But no meeting 323 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: was like the one with John McCain. His staff told 324 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 3: us we only had ten minutes, but he sat me 325 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: down and we had an over hour conversation that literally 326 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: brought tears to my eyes as he opened up about 327 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: his own life journey, his own sacrifices, his own failings 328 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: and faults. He was very can ended with me that 329 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: he hadn't always lived up to that standard. But in 330 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: the end he implored me, don't be a politician, be 331 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: a statesperson in Washington, be somebody that's bigger than our 332 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: left right divide, that finds ways to bring people together 333 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: to heal and actually stand up for America and not 334 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: just a short term political win. And he didn't end there. 335 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: I mean he took me on my first codel, my 336 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: first trip around the world, going to an important military conference. 337 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: Took the time for a guy who before this I 338 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: was a mayor, a no foreign policy needs there except 339 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: for maybe parking at the International House of Pancakes. And 340 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: so he really took time to help bring me up 341 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: to speed. And that's the kind of model of patriotism 342 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: that I think we need again and if I can that. 343 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 3: One of my favorite stories in that book is the 344 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: one that he told about Mike Christiansen and that when 345 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: he was a pow the men had pulled stitches of 346 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: fabric in different colors to create an American flag. That 347 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: every night they would salute the flag, they'd say the 348 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: pledge of allegiance. What you imagined this in a prison 349 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: stamp camp in Vietnam, guys with a bamboo needle stitch 350 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 3: a flag and show their allegiance. And he made this 351 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: point to me that there are times like that, that 352 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: everything is seared away from you except for what you love. 353 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: And for me, it was clear he loved this country. 354 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: But the Vietnamese guards found the flag and beat Mike Christiansen, 355 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: who did it, beat him savagely, and John McCain tells 356 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 3: that story that they dragged him back in, dropped him, 357 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: and that night, when he was sleeping, he rolled over 358 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: to see a beaten, bruised eyes almost swollen shut, Mike 359 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: Christiansen stitching together another American flag. And he said that 360 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: Mike was stitching that flag not for himself but for 361 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: his fellow POW's. 362 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: I think that's such a metaphor for what so many 363 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: of us are living. I mean, an extreme case, but 364 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: a metaphor. Not on the lesson I told you, I 365 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: was amazed that John had shared that with you, and 366 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: had shown you pictures and spent time talking about Vietnam. 367 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: He was my close friend and he hated talking about 368 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: that stuff. It was just too much for him. He 369 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: would never he never complained, He never complained about the 370 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: pain he felt on a daily basis. So it was 371 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: amazing to me that he had opened up that way 372 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: with you so quickly. I also, you know, You're incredibly 373 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: vulnerable in this book, and I think you show us 374 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: by example that you can be a man and you 375 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: can be vulnerable, You can have feelings, you can have emotions. 376 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: One of the things you do is talk about masculinity. 377 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: Can you discuss that a little? 378 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we're in a crisis right now in 379 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 3: our country where men are feeling more connected Gallup reports 380 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: we have less friendships, meaningful friendships, and meaningful spaces where 381 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: you can exhibit that manhood, have manhood modeled for you. 382 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons why I love sports is 383 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: I got to see strong leaders on my football team 384 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: when I was a freshman, guys that led with grit 385 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: and guts, but also showed hurt and weakness. But I 386 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: would have followed them up a hill under fire. They 387 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: were such extraordinary leaders. But now with less connection, less community, 388 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: more loneliness, we see a lot of people trying to 389 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: prey upon that, and we have these sort of get 390 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: eddies of counterfeit community on the internet that tries to 391 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: whip the hurting of men, men who often feel that 392 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: they're being blamed and shamed for their masculinity more than 393 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: celebrated as an integral part of the community, and in 394 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: those corners are being seduced into this kind of darkness 395 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: that often brings out not masculinity, but what I think 396 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: is cancerous, a deep negativity and even a dangerous, destructive 397 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 3: kind of hate towards others. People that try to whip 398 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: up and scapegoat women or minority groups as the problem. 399 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: What is the cause of their hurt? And so I 400 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: speak very bluntly towards that that we need to celebrate men. 401 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 3: We don't need to shame men. We need to elevate 402 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: what is the best of masculine virtues in the same 403 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: way that I was taught as a young man to 404 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: celebrate the virtues of womanhood and feminity. We need everyone 405 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: in our community. And the more we don't confront this 406 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: crisis for men in this country, the more we're going 407 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: to see a peril. And I wanted to speak to 408 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: that and also give some instruction in the book about 409 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: what we can do about it. 410 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: And you know, you also talk about some spectacular women 411 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: in the group. In the book. 412 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: You talk about your mom, the effects you've had on you, 413 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: and there's there's you talk about being on the floor 414 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: and voting for Supreme Court Justice kaitanji uh Brown and 415 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: what it meant to you to see her be confirmed 416 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: her hearings and to see Kamala Harris, then vice president 417 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: presiding be the presiding officer, And and you talked about 418 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: something that that just gave me all the feels, because 419 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: there's at least two times in the book where you 420 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: talk about your future children. 421 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: And look, Corey, it took you a damn long time. 422 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: You are now and incredible you went from being an 423 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: eligible bachelor in the Senate being now very happily married. 424 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: We got to meet Alexis last week when you were 425 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: on the view, and I heard you talk about how 426 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: how much you want to have children and and and 427 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: how that's going to complete your life. And and in 428 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: the book, there's a part where you're talking with your 429 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: grandfather who was not doing well and who you know 430 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: this was probably you went to say goodbye to your grandfather, basically, 431 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: and as you were leaving for that last time, your 432 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: grandfather says to you, I love you, and I love 433 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: your children and your grand and I love your children 434 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: and your grandchildren. And of course you didn't have any well, 435 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: you still don't have any, and you didn't know what 436 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: he meant. 437 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: Do you know what he meant? Now? 438 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I basically wrote the moment I realized it. 439 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: I didn't know that would be the last goodbye. And 440 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: we all have these last moments. We don't realize it 441 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: will be our last moments, last time we hugged the 442 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: loved one, the next last time we say goodbye, or 443 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: get to spend time with, especially our elders, who are 444 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: these giants in all of our lives, our parents and 445 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: our grandparents. And so I didn't know that was gonna 446 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: be your last time. He says that weird thing to 447 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: me that I don't get. I think he's confused. And 448 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: then I get a phone call that he's died, and 449 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 3: I pull over to the side of the road and 450 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: I weep, but something like warm spread within me, where 451 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: I suddenly realized that my grandfather loved with such ferocity 452 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: and strength and power, that he loved me, and he 453 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: loved generations not yet born, my future children. Now you 454 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 3: make me choke up. My future children will never meet him, 455 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 3: but they will know him, and they will know his 456 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: love because it lives on through me. And that's immortality. 457 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: And in that same chapter, I talk about the astrophysicist 458 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: Neil de grass Tyson, who is not a spiritual guy. 459 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: He's not a person of faith, he's a person of science. 460 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: He's agnostic. And I started telling him this story about 461 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: my grandfather's immortality, and he says, Corey, when you look 462 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: up at the stars at night, you're seeing stars that 463 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 3: are millions and millions of light years away, the same 464 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 3: stars that dinosaurs saw. But now those stars, some of them, 465 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: you're seeing as if they're there, but they burned out 466 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: a long time ago. But the light they gave off 467 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 3: goes on forever, so you're seeing the light as if 468 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: they're still living. And he goes, that is what we 469 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: all are. We're all star dust, and the energy we 470 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: give off while we're alive goes on forever. So we 471 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: go on forever. And you and I especially as all Americans, frankly, 472 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: we are living in the light and the love of 473 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: our ancestors. We are here today because they loved so hard, 474 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: so fiercely, sacrifice so much that we are the living 475 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: embodiment of their love today, the love that they gave yesterday. 476 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: And also the reason that I brought up the confirmation 477 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court Justice is because Kamala Harris gave 478 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: you a piece of stationary. She gave you and Senator 479 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: Warnock a piece of stationary of the Vice President's stationary 480 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: and told you to write a letter to someone. 481 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: And Senator Warnock. 482 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Wrote a letter to his little girl, his daughter, And 483 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: you've saved that piece of stationary and are hoping to 484 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: one day write the letter to a future daughter. 485 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: That's so fucking beautiful. 486 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: Gry. 487 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it was an amazing moment, like we're waiting 488 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: for the last vote. It was actually Lindsay Graham of 489 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: all people who hadn't voted yet, ninety nine people had 490 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: voted on the Supreme Court Justice. We were waiting for 491 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 3: the last vote, and Kamala Harris in that moment, calls 492 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 3: Warnock and I over, And it was funny because this 493 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: presiding officer sits on high in the Senate and you're 494 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: not really supposed to stand up above them. So the 495 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: two of us kneel like we're about to take communion 496 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: in front of Kamala Harris, and she gives us that assignment. 497 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 3: She pulls out these beautiful pieces of stationary with her 498 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: stationary with the embossed seal of our nation and her 499 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: name Vice President Kamala Harris. She goes write a letter 500 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: to a little girl somewhere about this moment, and Warnock, 501 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: disciplined and dutiful, goes back to his desk and whips 502 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: off the most elegant and beautiful letter. And I have 503 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: writer's block. Who do I write this letter to? Do? 504 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: I write it to my cousin, my niece, and I 505 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 3: just then the vote was called. Lindsay came in and voted, 506 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: and that letter weighed on me. And yes, I still 507 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: have that piece of paper. And I used the book 508 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: as an opportunity to write what I would have written 509 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: if I had seized that exact moment. But I will 510 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: tell you this. 511 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and at that moment, you weren't. 512 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: You weren't thinking of you hadn't met Alexis, you weren't 513 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: thinking of getting married. So you know, maybe this was 514 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: maybe you were meant to save that piece of stationery. 515 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: And I can't wait to read the letter that you 516 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: write one day. I want to ask you. 517 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: But I will say this to you, to you or 518 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: somebody that lives life this way. Most of us don't 519 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: have artifacts from our ancestors. We don't even have that 520 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: I don't have love letters for my parents or things 521 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: like that. But every day we write a letter, whether 522 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: we know it or not, we write a letter to 523 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: future generations. We write it not using ink, but sweat 524 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: and tears and blood. Sometimes what we do with our 525 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: actions is our love letter to future generations. And they 526 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: may not read a physical document, but they will benefit 527 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: from the messages we send forward in time by what 528 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: we do and how we live today. 529 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: Also in the book, you talk about something that is 530 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: so gut wrenching. You talk about Judge Sallas, the New 531 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: Jersey judge whose son was shot and killed, assassinated basically 532 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: part of violence against against federal judges, And you talk 533 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: about healing hate. 534 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, how do we heal hate? 535 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: So I want to be honest with There's parts of 536 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: this book that I wept as I as I wrote, 537 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: because my interviews with her were stunning in her courage 538 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: and her love and her strength to have somebody murder 539 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: her child, shoot her husband, and to still find it 540 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: within her the power of forgiveness, not as a gift 541 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: to him, but as a liberation of herself to not 542 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: let that horrible incident darken her spirit. She says she 543 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: lives to honor her son, her slain son. She cannot 544 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: let that murderer take away from her her capacity to love. 545 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: If anything, if she's going to show that darkness to 546 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: have a redemption in this awful, awful thing that happened 547 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: to her and her family, she needs to somehow find 548 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: her way back to love. And it was this chapter 549 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: telling her story, interwoven with a few others, that I 550 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: felt like I went on a journey with Judge Solas. 551 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: She is one of the more amazing federal judges in 552 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: the United States of America who is still fighting in 553 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: Daniel's name. For I was able to pass a piece 554 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: of legislation that she inspired called Daniel's Law to protect 555 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: federal judges, because as you know, in this time where 556 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: we see the trash on Twitter, threatening from the highest 557 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: office in the land, threatening judges who decide against this president, 558 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: the hate crimes and the threats on judges has gone 559 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: up to three hundred percent. So I just she is 560 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: a hero to me. But it also shows, which I 561 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: hope this book does, is how you ordinary Americans in 562 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 3: your everyday life can make tough choices to live by 563 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: virtues and radiate as a result. A kind of leadership 564 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: that actually heals us. 565 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: All I want to if your schedule allows, I want 566 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: to ask you two more things. The first, and this 567 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: is not part of the book, but it's a conversation 568 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: you and I had, and I've been thinking back about 569 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: it in the last several days. It's a conversation that 570 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: we had about your former colleague Bob Menendez, who is 571 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: right now sitting in a federal prison for having been 572 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: convicted of bribery. Basically, as you know, I loved Bob Menendez. 573 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: He was a friend of mine, somebody that I admired. 574 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: This hurt me deeply, and you and I had a 575 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: conversation about it where you told me that I needed 576 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: to separate the man and his flaws from the things 577 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: he had done to represent and help the community. And 578 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: I found myself thinking about that conversation we had last 579 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: week after the revelations about Caesar Chavis, where I think 580 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people, particularly in the Latino community, for 581 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: whom he was such an icon and a legend, are 582 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: really struggling with with you know, with mixed emotions and 583 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: what to do about this. 584 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: So can you just talk a little bit about that. 585 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember you reached out to me for some 586 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: thoughts about Bob, and I didn't on right away. I 587 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: had to really gather myself and really think to myself, 588 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: what is the best of me to offer to this 589 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: moment when a friend reaches out to you. And you know, 590 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 3: I'm really grounded by Matthew twenty five, where you know 591 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: it says very simply, when I was hungry, you fed me. 592 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 3: When I was sick, you visited me in the hospital. 593 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 3: When I was in prison, you visited to me. It's 594 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: this kind of unconditional love. You love the you can 595 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: hate the sin, but should we stop loving each other? 596 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: And it's hard, especially when a crime could be awful, 597 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 3: as in the case of says our Javes. How do 598 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: you deal with that? And I always tell people we're 599 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: all mountain ranges, we all have peaks, we all have valleys, 600 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: some of us have grand canyons. But how do you 601 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 3: love someone unconditionally? And perhaps it's the hardest of all 602 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: virtues to live up to, which is how do you 603 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: love through pain and shain and hurt and injury? And 604 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: I think that that's something we should struggle with. I 605 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: tell you. I sat next to Alex Padilla in a 606 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: hearing which he and I sit together in judiciary and 607 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: turned to him and asked him about Sesar Chavez, and 608 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: I will tell you, you could see the hurt. Yeah, 609 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: this was a guy that he grew up. He's my age. Like, 610 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: you could see the pain. So I just I just 611 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 3: want us to know that, like the chapter where esther slas, 612 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 3: she's if you want to look for ways to live 613 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: in the midst of people who've done horribly tragic things, 614 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 3: turned to a woman like her and let her be 615 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: light in the darkness about how to forgive and how 616 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: to move on. 617 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to ask you one last question, and 618 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: then I know I got to let you go. So 619 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: you are what over fifty by the time you got married. 620 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: What is it about Alexis that made her the one? 621 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: Because listen, I know women. 622 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 2: Who've dated you. 623 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: You've dated women, You've dated some women, a lot of women, Okay, 624 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: and slightually this woman came in and stole your heart. 625 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 2: So what is it? 626 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 3: What? 627 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: And how do you feel now that you're married? 628 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 3: Let me tell you the two truths that fit very 629 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 3: like a puzzle piece together. The first confession to you 630 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 3: is it wasn't simply waiting for the right person. It 631 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 3: was becoming the right person as well. You and I. 632 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 3: You know probablyhaps more of my dating life than most 633 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: people who interview me. I was blessed. I dated some 634 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: extraordinary people in the past, but I was I didn't 635 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: prioritize that part of my life. I was selfish when 636 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: it came to, so focused on my professional mission and 637 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: so unrelenting in my work hours and my my my 638 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: giving short shift to my personal life, and so I 639 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 3: think a lot of it had to come mind maturing 640 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: and realizing, wait a minute, I am incomplete. I am 641 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 3: not at my best in a sense, I'm playing at 642 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: the low stakes table. It is much higher risk to 643 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 3: get married, but much higher rewards. So when the right 644 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 3: woman came around and I'm the right person, now we 645 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 3: have fit together in a way that has helped me 646 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 3: discover a deeper, richer, more textured life than I ever knew. 647 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 3: And here's the trick that the universe has finally revealed 648 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: to me is all those years I was so focused 649 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 3: on my mission and my work, having her ground me, 650 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: round me out, give me an incredible home life, nurture me. 651 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: I am so much better of a servant and a 652 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: leader than I was before I knew her. She has 653 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 3: made my life complete in so many ways and helped 654 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 3: me discover a whole new world of my within myself 655 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: that I just didn't know existed. And I'm away from 656 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: those low state tables now and I feel like I'm 657 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 3: at a whole other level of life. 658 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: Chist And I want to thank you for your time today, 659 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: but I but more than that, I want to thank 660 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: you for being such a positive light, for working so 661 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: hard not to fall into the political traps, and being 662 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: a statesman, for trying to unify us and heal us, 663 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: and for reminding us on a daily basis by the 664 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: way you live your life and by the way you 665 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: serve your constituents that America is worth fighting for and 666 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: that our values can't be taken away by one man. 667 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 2: So thank you, mil. 668 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: Gracia Cory Booker. I loved having you, and I can't 669 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: wait to spend more. 670 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: Time with you. 671 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 3: I wanted to say thank you for one simple thing. 672 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 3: In public life. It is a blessing you when you 673 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: have a real friend, and you've been a friend to 674 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 3: be So thank you, very much. 675 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. 676 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: Every week I like to highlight my hero of the 677 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: week and my coward of the week. 678 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: This week, let's start with the cowards. So the coward 679 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: is Donald Trump. 680 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: And listen, Donald Trump is going to be the coward 681 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: of the week in this podcast a lot. And I'll 682 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: tell you why, because I refuse to accept Donald Trump's 683 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: behavior as normal. I refuse to stop calling it out. 684 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to call it out every single time because 685 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: it's not only unprecedential, unseemly, it is undignified, and it 686 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: is unacceptable. And we cannot not look the other way, 687 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: just shrug our shoulders and say, oh, that's just Trump 688 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 1: being Trump. I don't accept that. So let's talk about 689 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: what he did. Last week. Robert Muller died. Special counsel 690 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: Robert Muller, who had investigated the twenty sixteen elections and 691 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: the ties to Russia, and Donald Trump tweeted out because 692 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: of course, he can't help himself. As we all know, 693 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: the man suffers an acute case of verbal diarrhea, and 694 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: he tweeted out, Robert Muller just died. 695 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: Good. 696 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people. 697 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: And he signed it precedent Donald J. 698 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: Trump. 699 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a few things to say on this. 700 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: First of all, he keeps doing this shit, right, he 701 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: keeps doing this shit. He did it about Rob Reiner 702 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: and his wife Michelle, who died so tragically a. 703 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 2: Few months ago. 704 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: He did it about John McCain. John McCain was dead, 705 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: and he kept attacking the guy for months and months 706 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: and months. Listen, the dead can't hear him. They don't 707 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: care what he's saying, and they don't care about his 708 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: little fits and tantrums. But this does hurt the families. 709 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: It puts a bullseye on their back at a time 710 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: when they are grieving. This is unjust toward those families. 711 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: But let's just also do a little comparison here between 712 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 1: Bob Muller and Donald Trump. Robert Muller was a decorated veteran. 713 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: He served in Vietnam, the same war that Donald Trump dodged. 714 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: The same war. 715 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 1: When he was pretending he had bone spurs, he doesn't 716 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: remember which foot he had them on. I assure you, 717 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: bone spurs hurt. If you had bone spurs, you'd know 718 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: what foot was hurting. 719 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 3: Well. 720 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: At the same time that Donald Trump was faking bone spurs, 721 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: Robert Muller was serving honorably. This is a guy who 722 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: won a purple Heart and a bronze Star for his service. 723 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: And the other thing I want to say about this, 724 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: because it's just so disgusting, is Look, it's the hypocrisy 725 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: of it, right. I can't tell you how many Republicans 726 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: and Trump supporters, Trump defenders I sat with on TV 727 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: at CNN who would tell me over and over again 728 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: how gross it was that some fringe Democrats, some French 729 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: liberal and anonymous people online, we're celebrating the death of 730 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. Okay, that was anonymous people online. That was 731 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: people of very little if any relevance. Here we're talking 732 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: about the president of the United States, and the same 733 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: Trumpers who condemned any celebration of the death of Charlie 734 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: Kirk have been silent in condemning this egregious behavior by 735 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And so I just want to tell those 736 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: people that there will come a time when, like every 737 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: other human, Donald Trump will die and I am sure 738 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: that that day there will be people who tweet out 739 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: celebratory statements, there will be people dancing in the streets 740 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: and happy about it. And when that happens, I don't 741 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: want to hear any of these cowards who are staying 742 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: silent and not condemning Donald Trump coming out and saying 743 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: that those people should be fired and those people should 744 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: be canceled, because your hypocrisy is leading the way. I 745 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: also want to talk about this thing that happened last week, 746 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: which we should just discuss for a brief minute. So 747 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: there was this woman, she's being labeled as racist granny online. 748 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: There was this older woman at a San Antonio Spurs 749 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: basketball game and she was caught on camera the jumbotrone 750 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: texting on her phone, and in her phone she was 751 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: saying she was talking about all the crazy Hispanic fans 752 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: that were there that night, and then she said, they're 753 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: all Hispanics. How can they afford it? Lady, I hate 754 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: to break it to you, but there are some rich Hispanics. 755 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 2: You're looking at one of those bitches. Okay. 756 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Hispanics that have suites at basketball stadiums. 757 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Hispanics that sit front row in 758 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: basketball games. I hope that lady never comes to Miami 759 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: because she's going to see that most of the arena 760 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: is full of Hispanic fans. And yes, Hispanics tend to 761 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: crazy when it comes to sports. It's called fandom. It's 762 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: called being enthusiastic about rooting for your team. And I 763 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: appreciate that the San Antonio Spurs came out and not 764 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,959 Speaker 1: only condemned this racism but also talked about how much 765 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: inclusivity and having those crazy Hispanic fans means to them. 766 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: So good for the Spurs and this lady, Hi Bosita. 767 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: A lot of times on this podcast, I like to 768 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: talk about things that inspire me and bring me joy. 769 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: This last week was World Down Syndrome Day, and I 770 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: went with my best friend to this coffee shop in Miami. 771 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: It's called the No Limits Coffee Shop and it's No 772 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: Limits Coffeeshop dot com if you want to look up 773 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: this story. This coffee shop is staffed and run by 774 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: adults with special needs with disabilities. A lot of them 775 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: have Down syndrome, and they are joyful. They are wonderful, 776 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: they are spreading happiness, they are happy to have this job. 777 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm so glad for this type of business that gives 778 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: people with special needs with Down syndrome a dignified place 779 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: to work, that treats them with respect, that lets them 780 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: exercise and show off their talents, and at a time 781 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: when we are seeing more and more benefits and services 782 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: be cut for people with special needs, it was so 783 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: heartwarming to be able to see them doing. 784 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: This for themselves. 785 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: I encourage you to look up any business in your 786 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 1: community that may be run or employ people with special 787 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: needs and support those businesses. That's it for this week's 788 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: episode of Bleep with Anna Navarro. Thank you for joining us, 789 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: thank you to Senator Booker for having been our guest, 790 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: and I hope you will leave me your comments and 791 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I'm reading all of them, and spread the 792 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: word about this podcast, and hopefully we'll tune in next week. 793 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: See you then. 794 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: Bleep with Anna Navarro is a high Finlight media group 795 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: production in partnership with Iheartmichael dudda podcast network. 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