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Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans, and this is not an episode of

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Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards, but it's running in UH plugged into

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Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards. This is an episode of Katie uh in,

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Speaker 1: Cody and I talking about the second set of Democratic

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Speaker 1: debates as a prelude for our our election year podcast,

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Speaker 1: which will be a fun weekly podcast about the worst

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Speaker 1: year of all of our lives and with a title

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Speaker 1: vaguely similar to that. So the title is still in flux,

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Speaker 1: but it's going to be something like, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really good. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be better

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Speaker 1: than the year. It is going to be better than

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Speaker 1: the year. Anyway, here's the podcast. I have been on

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Speaker 1: a lot of planes. Robert literally got off a plane

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Speaker 1: know when was the last time you slept well other

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Speaker 1: been a minute. Um. I mean, I have so many

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Speaker 1: questions about that, but that's not what we're here tonight.

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Speaker 1: And we're here to talk about the debate politics. Yes, sweet,

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Speaker 1: best kind of politics, sexy, moist, wiry, wristle, phil Well,

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Speaker 1: I like, I'm okay with the word moist, but not

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Speaker 1: when used in the sexual connotation. Like I think moist

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Speaker 1: what was in all's head when you said moist. I'm

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Speaker 1: almost always no, it was yeah, Cody, you just got

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Speaker 1: in last night, so you're also out of it. I'm

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Speaker 1: I've been around the longest. I've been back for a

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Speaker 1: will be fun. So, just like the front runner of

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party, we have all been going for too long

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Speaker 1: to properly do our jobs. Today. We haven't learned. We

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Speaker 1: haven't learned a lesson from times past when it proved

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Speaker 1: should have taken Elizabeth Warren up on her offer to

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Speaker 1: If we're lucky, she'll call in um like she does

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Speaker 1: with her donor calls. But let's talk about the debates,

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Speaker 1: you guys. That's what we're here, that's the magic that

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Speaker 1: we're here to discuss. Um. Who did you come away

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Speaker 1: Corey Booker had some great moments. Honestly, truly not a

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Speaker 1: If he wasn't there, they wouldn't have talked about climate

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Speaker 1: change nearly enough. In some cases, probably not at all.

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Speaker 1: mass murder of our time, and then later in interviews

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Speaker 1: refused to call him a war criminal after his many

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Speaker 1: war crimes, and she visited after he had gassed She

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Speaker 1: like sat down with this guy after he'd gassed thousands

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Speaker 1: and thousands of thousands of people to death. Um, she

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Speaker 1: has some weird like Hindu nationalist fascist views of her own,

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Speaker 1: and like the like she she played it well when

433
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Speaker 1: she was like attacked for like the anti gay stuff

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Speaker 1: in the first debate, like the whole I grew up

435
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Speaker 1: and stuff, But like she came from a pretty gross

436
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: evil cult background and she has not associated herself fully

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Speaker 1: from it in her actual life. Um, there's some very

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Speaker 1: concerning things about Tulsie Gabbard's background and beliefs, not the

439
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Speaker 1: least of which is the fact that she was willing

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Speaker 1: to let a fascist group take her to go hang

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Speaker 1: with Bashar al Assad. I mean, I don't want to

442
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: tell you guys what to do, but don't vote for her. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big not a big tools Gabbard man,

444
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: but she kind of nailed hitting Kamala Harris. Yeah, I

445
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: know she did a good job. No one else was.

446
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: No one was going to go anywhere. Oh yeah, they

447
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: didn't want to. They didn't want to touch touch that. Um,

448
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: but someone had to. Yeah, it's it was a real

449
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: one of those Onion article like the worst person you know,

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Speaker 1: A great point I'm waiting for different not matchups, but like, uh,

451
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: fewer people so more people can have converted Like that

452
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: was great. I would like to see it was with

453
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: Warren and Joe Biden talk to That's all I wanted.

454
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: I was so mad. Although Joe Biden didn't need anybody

455
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: else gaging up on him tonight. That pants like a

456
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: fucking yeah. But I did really like um, I thought,

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Speaker 1: even though it was definitely framed by CNN terribly because

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00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: CNN sucks, uh like the progressives from the mutter It's

459
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: and all that kind of garbage, But it was very

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Speaker 1: cool to see Bernie and Elizabeth Warren up there together

461
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: doing that. Like they weren't throwing each other under the body.

462
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: They were backing each other up pretty well. There are

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Speaker 1: a few moments where you can see them stare at

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00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: each other and get like exchange looks like can you

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Speaker 1: believe these people? And like it was clear that they

466
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: had each other's backs um and gracefully responding so like

467
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: at one point, I can't think of the specific example,

468
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 1: but you know, a question to Elizabeth about like, well

469
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Speaker 1: what about this element of Bernie's plan and her being like, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not what it is this is what I voted for.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she still made it about her, but like

472
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: making it clear that like, no, we're on the same

473
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Speaker 1: side here, and like, you're wrong, you're misinterpreting what we

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Speaker 1: were saying. I want to talk about immigration stuff, immigrations,

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Speaker 1: you love immigrations stuff, because that's a big topic in

476
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Speaker 1: our country. In the debate, the candidates don't love immigration,

477
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: and a love of the Democratic candidates don't love immigration.

478
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: Biden wants to cherry pick races, so that I'm that

479
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: like that like breathed by and I was like, wait,

480
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: did he just say cherry pick? Like different, that's what

481
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: makes this strong unbelievable, bonkers and like anyone with a

482
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: PhD gets an automatic green card. I am so frustrated

483
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: and appalled by the amount of people on that stage

484
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: that just said we need to just need a new

485
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Speaker 1: new president in office and that all fix the kids

486
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: in cages. Like you know, you're you're missing the entire point.

487
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: You are not that stupid. The point of decriminalizing immigration

488
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: or illegal immigration isn't Yes, it's about getting kids out

489
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: of cages. Yes, it's about allowing people to come here

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00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: seeking asylum, but it's about protecting their human rights and

491
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Castor did a great job talking about it. And also

492
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: again and he did the last time, um hammering home

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Speaker 1: that going that it's about sending a it's about creating

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Speaker 1: programs that help UH make the countries that they're leaving

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00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: safer and more productive. About I mean, did Biden really

496
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: hit that one? Like well, credit Biden repeatedly mentioned giving

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Speaker 1: money to these counts, but he said that that's what

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Speaker 1: he did. He said, he said that we did give

499
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Speaker 1: he was defending himself. We gave a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: But like also, I don't like that's great. I want

501
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: to know how that money is spent. It's not just

502
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: about because we look at Puerto Rico. Obviously that's a

503
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Speaker 1: part of our country technically although they can't vote for president,

504
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't have representation, but giving money and then it's

505
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: mismanaged within that local government. So it's not just about that,

506
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: unfortunately in my perspective, and I'm hoping that's not too naive,

507
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: but like I need to hear people saying more specific

508
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: So him saying we did a good job, we gave

509
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: the money actually doesn't cut it for me. No, it

510
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: doesn't cut it. But I'm glad that the I'm glad

511
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: that even from Biden. Yeah, framing of we owe these

512
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: countries something like that, that's that's a positive step. Yeah,

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00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: I do agree with that. Um, but that was like

514
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: when I was watching that's that was like like the idea, Yeah,

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00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: the idea that like, well there's just to be a

516
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: new president. Yeah, and that was like but what if?

517
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Speaker 1: But who who after? Yeah? Well who was the president

518
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: after that? What? What would they what would they do?

519
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: That whole section of the debate where like everyone was

520
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: trying to explain to Joe Biden why that was a

521
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: bad idea I mentioned during reminded me of like arguments

522
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: I've had with elderly family members at like Thanksgiving, where

523
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: like all of the kids will try to be explaining

524
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: something like marijuana or like like like like why why

525
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: a reformed that every young person is behind? Like is

526
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: a good idea to like an elderly uncle being like

527
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: but what about this poorly thought out point? What about this? Yeah? No, no, no,

528
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: you just do this? Yeah. Then I mentioned during the debate,

529
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone ever touched on it, but like,

530
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: has anyone said that they will not only like legalize marijuana,

531
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: but also release everyone that's in prison for it. Nobody

532
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: said release everyone that's There was a lot of talk

533
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: about legalizing marijuana, but nobody was like, but in addition

534
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: to that, like the people that are that have been

535
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: sucked over in their life for this, Okay, waiting for that,

536
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: it'll it'll happen. Yeah, waiting for Beta will write in

537
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: on the skateboard. And I was about to say, we

538
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned Beto things. We're all very close to being

539
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: done with Beto forever. So I already am bro Like

540
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: my god, at this point, I don't even want that,

541
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, sure Runter said it. Maybe you'll win. He's

542
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: he he might have lost it by now. Yeah, just

543
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: because his campaign was so bad and it exposed him

544
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: as so weak, such a callow youth. Yeah, I mean

545
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: I truly, well, not truly, but part of me was like, oh,

546
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: I hope he uses his closing statement into exit the race.

547
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was like, I could just see

548
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: that happening right now. Similarly, I was I'm waiting for

549
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: anyone on stage because like obviously a lot of people

550
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: they're up there, like I'm just here for like maybe

551
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: I'll get a cabinet position. I'll probably write a book

552
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: next year about this whole thing. Maryanne Williams, Oh, for sure,

553
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: that's what she's doing. But like waiting for someone be like,

554
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: if I'm elected, I will abolish the presidency. Like in

555
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: the context of that conversation was like, well, if the

556
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: president changes, then everything will be good. It's like, well, no,

557
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: maybe we just shouldn't have that. Sure, you know, I

558
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: weren't they debating having three presidents or something when the

559
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: Founding Fathers were framing the constition. Yeah, I think that's

560
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: actually yeah, too bad that didn't happen. And they also

561
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: what suggested, like re writing a constitution every seventeen years.

562
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: So yep, no, no, Cody, don't you know everything they

563
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: wrote back then is the way it has to be forever. Okay,

564
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: that makes sense. That's that's what our Founding fathers and

565
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: envisioned when they created a system that specifically included ways

566
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: to alter the Constitution. Yeah, they were hellas, Like the

567
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: things that I know about time the world, the world

568
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: stays the same, and so the rules should say the same.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that I know about the Founding Fathers

570
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: is that they all agreed a dent on everything that

571
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: they did. Really, they were all really good people, all

572
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: really good people with the same attitudes towards the rights

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00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: of human beings and who counted as a huge Yeah yeah,

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00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: I love that about them. I love that. I like how, yeah,

575
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: how the best idea for a government was thought up

576
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: years ago. We're done was thought up by people who

577
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: didn't know how to make sure the water they drank

578
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: didn't make them poop themselves, and who statistically a significant

579
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: amount of these guys died from pooping themselves to death,

580
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Like what, we're probably least. There were a lot of

581
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: dumb questions and both nights and Bernie thinks this, why

582
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: is that insane? An evening I jotted down tonight. I

583
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: don't know why. In hindsight, maybe it's not as dumb,

584
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: but I rolled my eyes, like who's the best candidate

585
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: to heal the racial divide in America? Because I don't

586
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: think that a candidate, a single candidate can do that.

587
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't like. I mean, it just was like such

588
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: an inane like, let's actually talk about something more specific

589
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: than than something. How are you going to fix it all?

590
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: How are you going to fix two and fifty years

591
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: of institutionalized races, and although I think Marianne has the

592
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: best discussion of yeah yeah she reparations being taught, Yeah,

593
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: that's what, and the environmental justice. I think you're like

594
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: because my next question was like, this is done, But

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00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: who do you guys think? I was like, um, so

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00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: she was intersectional feminist and I'm not gonna you know,

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00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't think, like you know, Center Booker and Harris

598
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: that like should have the responsibility to this. If I'm

599
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: like the president, I'll explain to all the white women

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00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: why they have privilege. I was like, are you saying

601
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: that you should do it because you're well, she's saying

602
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: like she doesn't want. Well, what she was actually saying,

603
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, becau's what she's saying. She's being intersecual.

604
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: She's saying, like white women, it's our job to like also, yeah, no,

605
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: I get it. But like just it seemed like framed

606
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: like I'll do it. I'll talk to us like I

607
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: got this. Ya had two or three really good answers

608
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: prepared that she was really comfortable with that she delivered well,

609
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: and everything else, even if the meat of what she

610
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: was saying was good, was very awkward. I think just

611
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: because she's not a good think on her feet. She's not.

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00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: She's not like Corey Booker. I don't think I had

613
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: everything tried out ahead of time. I think he's just

614
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: got one of those kind of brains. Yeah, he's very

615
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: good at really impressed me tonight. Yeah, Carla was very

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00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: low energy to night. She seems very low energy. Harrison,

617
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: low energy Harrison and sleepy, sleepy, sleepy Michael Bennett. He

618
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: dead looks sleepy. What the fun? Why is Michael Benn?

619
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: I want to spend a hot second talking about Steve Bullock,

620
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: because that's the guy I was thinking, that's the fourth jobs.

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Speaker 1: He is, you know, he is um young Bradley Whitford

622
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: and get out like there's something everything about him, the

623
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: way he talks, he's got his rows. He knew he

624
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: made the fundraise. He was a full quarter of the

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: candidates in these two nights were jeb Oh yeah, it's um.

626
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: He was more entertaining than Jeb Um, but only because

627
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: he's so laughful. He looks like I can see him

628
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: in the eighties. I can see him being that little

629
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: punk and his pull up his face, his face is

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Speaker 1: Bullock and Bennett. Well, that's why Bullock. It sounds like

631
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: a fucking cop drama that would have gotten canceled nine

632
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: episodes in. Um, and we haven't talked about Warren at all.

633
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about a right, show me his picture,

634
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: because I have forgotten that motherfucker's face, the bullet Bennett.

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00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: I remember, Oh that's Bullet Bennett's the one who looks

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Speaker 1: like a like a Charles Schultz Raw. Yeah, yeah, he

637
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Speaker 1: looks like it. Then it looks like from kind of

638
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Speaker 1: bunk pool. Then it looks like Charlie Brown all grown up. Um,

639
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Speaker 1: it looks like Charlie Brown who never got over Snoopy's

640
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Speaker 1: death and hasn't been able to pet another dog since

641
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Speaker 1: Snoopy died. Well, yeah, all dogs go to heaven of course.

642
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Speaker 1: Um yeah, we could lose. We could lose the JEBS.

643
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to lose Insley. Um, which I think

644
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Speaker 1: I think he's he was sort of lumped in with

645
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Speaker 1: the JEBS first, get no, but I think he has

646
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Speaker 1: a legitimately noble mission of shouting at about climate change.

647
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: Man like he's actually like he's engaging to listen to,

648
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: Like he's a good speaker. I wouldn't put him in

649
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: the class of job for many reasons. I had some

650
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Speaker 1: good stuff to say about white nationalism and the threats there,

651
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Speaker 1: and which as the governor of Washington, he fucking off. Yeah,

652
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: he should probably be a little familiar with that. I

653
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Speaker 1: thought Mike Gravel got enough donors to be on the stage.

654
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Speaker 1: I believe he did. What happened. I was going to say,

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Speaker 1: like a bottle of rum happened. Mill just didn't pick

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Speaker 1: up drink the teens. And I know it wouldn't be

657
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Speaker 1: a cell phone ringing. It would be an old school

658
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Speaker 1: pages the side of a desk, buzzing until it fell

659
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Speaker 1: into the trap by pager. I well, I just want

660
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Speaker 1: to paging the Pentagon papers. I was like, we didn't

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Speaker 1: quite finish. I want to just bring up real quick

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Speaker 1: something that I about selar rights stuff that Biden's whole

663
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Speaker 1: defense of his civil rights record was basically like, well

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Speaker 1: Obama hired me an Obama, Obama was black. It was literally,

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Speaker 1: I have a black friend and he's the was shocking.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's what you have to say, Broma,

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Speaker 1: So maybe he is the one that's best suited to

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Speaker 1: heal our racially have a black friend, didn't someone say

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Speaker 1: like Biden why do you always take credit for the

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Speaker 1: Obama thing? And rejected that, like the Obama things you

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Speaker 1: don't like. Someone said that, right, yeah, unless you said

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Speaker 1: it as something that it's not. I believe it might

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Speaker 1: have been. My guide is saying Corey Booker said it,

674
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Speaker 1: but I don't know if it was. Mia is so smart.

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked at all about Elizabeth Warren tonight. We

676
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: also haven't talked about Booker's brother, carry Booker weird looking. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now I've got a Google carry Book looks like a

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Speaker 1: photo negative of his brother, and it's unsettling. Um, is

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Speaker 1: he running for president? No? Okay, it's just oh that's

680
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: to me, like, um, what is it Steph Curry and

681
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Speaker 1: Steph Carry? You know, like Steph Curry's brother has the

682
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: same name as him. Um, sorry, but yeah, Elizabeth Warren.

683
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: But let's talk about Elizabeth Warren. She did great. She

684
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Speaker 1: did great. She always does great, you guys, very earnest

685
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: in coachingly melted. She's also so good for swooning right now,

686
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: her and Bernie just like I can saying things that

687
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: were accurate. I mean, like, that was so nice to see.

688
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: I know people are like worried about like if you

689
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Speaker 1: go too far left, and I'm honor with the independence,

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00:39:54,920 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: I really like fascist, Like, are you gonna tell me

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Speaker 1: we can't elect Elizabeth Warren, who in any sane country

692
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Speaker 1: would be like a slightly left of center Yes, yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's nonsense, and the way it's framed is very,

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Speaker 1: very frustrating. But they're just so good together. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: want to see them run a presidential campaign, and I

696
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Speaker 1: don't care who's in whose VP. Bernie would be VP.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Bernie would definitely choose her as

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Speaker 1: his VP. I don't know if Elieth Warren would pick him.

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Speaker 1: I think she would probably be pressured by the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party to pick somebody else. I want Warren Bernie. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm fine either way as long as long as one

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Speaker 1: of them is the presidential nominee. Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'd be fought with Castro as a presidential nominee and

704
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Speaker 1: fucking Sanders or Warren as his VP. Two Like maybe

705
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Speaker 1: that's the smarter play, oh for me would be I

706
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Speaker 1: could see Astro being VP. I don't see him as president.

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Speaker 1: I think he might be a fucking hell of a

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Speaker 1: barn stormer. I don't know that he's gotten the chance

709
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: to like do that yet. Um, but I think he

710
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Speaker 1: might have the potential to run that kind of a campaign.

711
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: And even though he's more of a moderate, I don't

712
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Speaker 1: know like that. That's not my suggestion or hope, but

713
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Speaker 1: I could see him being a really solid presidential king.

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00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: I get behind Castro for sure. Um, I do. He

715
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: does speak well. And again I well, I said this

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Speaker 1: to you guys are there. I don't want to vote for.

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Speaker 1: I don't want Kamala to be the president. Obviously I was,

718
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: but I do really don't want. I do think it

719
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: would be so fun to see her prosecute Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: on a debate, to see her shouting at him at

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Speaker 1: a bus station when they're both like trapped on a

722
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Speaker 1: fil would yeah, and somebody films it on a cell

723
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Speaker 1: phone like that? That's what I want, Or I guess,

724
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Speaker 1: get someone in there that brings him in front of

725
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Speaker 1: Congress as she question him in that forum. That's what

726
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: you want to see. You want to see the impeachment, Yeah,

727
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: but I don't want to see her stopped after three minutes.

728
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: I want to see her be allowed to do it

729
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: very good at a job that I wish didn't exist,

730
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Speaker 1: and that shouldn't be the president. Yeah, yeah, that shouldn't

731
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Speaker 1: be the pipeline, the prosecutor to president pipeline. Well, are

732
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Speaker 1: there any other one of the things that you guys

733
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Speaker 1: did you want to talk about your takeaways from the

734
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Speaker 1: last couple of nights, Which one is Klobuchar. She's the

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Speaker 1: one that either looks like your mom's friend who was

736
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: trying to be cool but you didn't really want to

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Speaker 1: be around, or like maybe your freshman English teacher brown

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Speaker 1: here description she's a little too young to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: brand does description, but English teachers. She she reminds me

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Speaker 1: of a senior ap English teacher, right. She she is

741
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: the person who would like walk you through the scarlet

742
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: letter and then you're and when you don't turn something

743
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: in on time, she'd be like, I'm just so disappointed

744
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: in you, and you'd feel bad, and you would feel

745
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: but also that I still wouldn't read Nathaniel Hawthorne. Now

746
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. And then you see her over summer at

747
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: like a liquor store and you're like, fuck, that's sad,

748
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: and she's just buying one enormous bottle of vodka. Yeah, oh,

749
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: I was going to say like rose, but sure vodka. Yeah, no,

750
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: I think she's the hard drinking kind of English teacher

751
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: at night. Put it played in the coconut and makes

752
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: it all up. And now you know it was written

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00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: about Kristen gillibrand presidential nominee. Um real quick to speak.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned we're mentioning teachers talking about teachers, and I

755
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: don't want to pass this by because I she she

756
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: said it in passing during the bait was with Warren

757
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: was talking about how um, she always wanted to be

758
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Speaker 1: a teacher. Um, and I just I just want only

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00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: teachers and nurses to be yeah, the country, like teachers,

760
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: nurses and er doctors. Yeah they're just like I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of R doctors have a drug problem. That's fine,

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Speaker 1: the f d R was drunk the whole of World

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Speaker 1: War Two. You know. She obviously worked with like special

764
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: needs kids and stuff. But I just want teachers to

765
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Speaker 1: run for president and to be president. And that's like

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Speaker 1: you hear that, teachers that are listening. It's one of

767
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Speaker 1: the reasons I really really like her is because she

768
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: has that vibe and she has that drive, and that's

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Speaker 1: where a lot of her well, her compassion comes from.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of also her effectiveness because teachers know

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Speaker 1: how to explain things, and so she can make a

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00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: case and like make very good. They know how to

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Speaker 1: explain things, and then they habitually look at things from

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Speaker 1: other people's perspective. Uh, not because they consider every perspective

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00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: equally valid, but because they're trying to understand where those

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00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: people are coming from in order to win fluid. They

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00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: know how to listen to actually listen. Yeah, um uh,

778
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: And I think she's using those skills really well. And

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00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: I just had another thought that it's gone, it's lost.

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00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: I've had too much for us. So we haven't talked

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00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: about Oh yeah, we didn't talk about him. He had

782
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: a good moment, but I forgot what it was because

783
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: I haven't slept in days. Uh. It wasn't the one

784
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: where he said you want to combat veteran grilling. You

785
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: don't come on a few moments like that from a

786
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: bunch of different candidates who were like, if you nominate me,

787
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: I can say this to Donald Trump on the debate stage,

788
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: like anyone can say that to him. You don't need

789
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: to be like I was in people a day on

790
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: Twitter say that to him. It's never made. It's like

791
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: everybody's like, I need to have that came with one

792
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: prepared sound bite of what they would say to Donald Trump,

793
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: just to remind everybody that we're not Donald Trump. We

794
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: know that. Oh deals with the warrant thing. She also

795
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: values children so much, and like it's why one of

796
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: her main things is like the childcare and like guaranteed

797
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: childcare and and precane all that stuff. And it's the

798
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: kind of thing where it's like, any of course, if you,

799
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: if you treat every child equally and give every single

800
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Speaker 1: child the opportunity that they need to thrive, then your

801
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: society in general will be so much better a few

802
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: years later because of what you've done for every single child.

803
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: And she understands that and I love her for it. Yes,

804
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: But anyway, Pete, Oh, you know what, Actually this I

805
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: just remembered. The worst answer I think of the debates

806
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: was actually one of castros Um, And because he's a

807
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: smooth talker, it kind of slid past. No one hit

808
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: him on it. But it was when he was talking

809
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: about Flint and he was like, when I was the

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Speaker 1: director of Health and Human Services or when I was

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00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: the director of hut UM, I uh, you know, I

812
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: we dealt with that, and then he kind of pivots

813
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: to the fact that like it's still not dealt with,

814
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: but like he didn't direct like it was like, yeah,

815
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: that that that was on you, like and then I

816
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: was I was also there six weeks ago. I was like,

817
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: and was it good? Why don't you fill in the blanks?

818
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: What did you do? What happened there? There's a lot

819
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: of glossing over yea. It was he's very like, he's

820
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: very smooth, but it was also like, yeah, you really

821
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: are someone I should be angry at over that. Last night,

822
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: the question about Flint was that it's still a problem.

823
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Is that it's still fucked up and you didn't do

824
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: your job. Julian, It's frustrating how many people stepped sidestep

825
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: to questions and just notch it. And there's no moderators

826
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: never never press anybody ever. So often they would press

827
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: somebody on something, but again the moderators aren't journalists, right, Yeah,

828
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: but that's what you want. Ye can even get an

829
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: answer and be like, well, actually, as a journalist, I'm

830
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: aware that you're lying or like that you're not including

831
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: the full context or something. Everybody should have like a big,

832
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: long half hour chunk of time with a journalist and

833
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: the journalist the journalist should get to throw two tomatoes

834
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: like the hard green ones. Yeah, every time they lie,

835
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: whenever they choose. That'd be so satisfying. Politics be so

836
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: much better we have. He's he's a contender. Yeah, Yeah,

837
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: he's a contender in a way. I think that he's

838
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: going to end up governor. Three of us are not

839
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: particularly enthralled by him. I guess the reason I keep

840
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: bringing him up is that I have a couple of

841
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: friends who are not normally very politically engaged, who find

842
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: him incredibly charismatic and inspiring. And I don't get that either.

843
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: But I know that he has had an impact on

844
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: some people and that his rhetoric is appreciated by them. Yeah,

845
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't connect with that, but I do

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Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, I don't have strong feelings about the

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Speaker 1: guy one way or the other. I think he seems

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Speaker 1: lovely that I'd love to have him as a friend,

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Speaker 1: but he's not quite my politics. Yea, I guess the

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Speaker 1: vibe I get great Mayor. Yeah, Also, mayor is kind

851
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Speaker 1: of a low rung job. It is wild to jump

852
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Speaker 1: from that governor makes sense. Yeah, I can't remember what

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Speaker 1: it was. He did have a couple of moments last

854
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Speaker 1: night that were good, um, but I can't remember what

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Speaker 1: they were specifically, And you think that I'd have written

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Speaker 1: it down, but I didn't. I believe he again was

857
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Speaker 1: confronted with talking about, you know, racial issues during the

858
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Speaker 1: police cos and things like that. He's not great at

859
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Speaker 1: actually like addressing it, not even just head on, but

860
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Speaker 1: in general at all. He's sort of side steps it

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Speaker 1: a lot, and it's like, you know, we all we

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Speaker 1: got problems. Well, that reminds me to talk about de

863
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Speaker 1: Blasio in that moment that way. The protesters, Yeah, yeah, yeah, chanting.

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Speaker 1: I heard that during during Biden. I believe they were

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Speaker 1: chanting the like three million, three million deportations. What they

866
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: were chanting for Biden, uh, for de Blasio and also

867
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Speaker 1: Booker for some reason was a fire Pentaleo. Yeah, they

868
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Speaker 1: started chanting that during but they started chanting that during Bookers.

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Speaker 1: They well they the first time you could hear it

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Speaker 1: faintly was and then they really went a whole hog

871
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Speaker 1: for Booker for some reason, but then kept saying Eric

872
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: Gardner really bothered me, like you've got you've got to

873
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Speaker 1: have that name written in front of you man and

874
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Speaker 1: a city burned, because like, how can you not have

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Speaker 1: that down? Yeah, that's nuts, um, But what was the

876
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Speaker 1: Blasio's response to that? It was basically like, oh, it's

877
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Speaker 1: the Justice depart federal the Federal Justice Department got in

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Speaker 1: his way or like was slowing it down. He didn't answer,

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Speaker 1: He didn't answer why isn't he But I believe it

880
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Speaker 1: was Gillibrand who said I would have fired that cop,

881
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Speaker 1: And I like, I like that straightforward. Those are I mean,

882
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Speaker 1: those are usually the best answers, Like even when um,

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Speaker 1: to Joe Biden's credit, Uh, I forget what the exact

884
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Speaker 1: question was. If it was Insley, I think asking about it, um,

885
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Speaker 1: and then Joe was like yes, and then then they're like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't Yes, it was getting rid of a stop

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Speaker 1: these coal Um ye yes, yeah, great. Those are the

888
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Speaker 1: like And that's what I love about Insley being up there.

889
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Speaker 1: He just made Joe Biden commit on stage in front

890
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Speaker 1: of everybody that that's something he would do. Yeah. I think,

891
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: um like justified his run for president with that moment.

892
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: Is nothing else. Who do you want to see gone

893
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: before the next debate Williamson Yang, Yeah, Beto, I don't mind.

894
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: So like I don't know, it's it's it's frustrating because

895
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Speaker 1: like the Williamson's and like Yang, the things they're talking about,

896
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: I think our issues that are important to talk about,

897
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: and if they're not there, no one is. I think

898
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: we've gotten all we can get out of them. Yeah,

899
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: that's the other toxicity. And then it's like, Okay, at

900
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: this point, we're risking getting into something dangerous happening. We're

901
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: going to get the political equivalent of toxic shock syndrome

902
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: if we let them there. So like, here's a pitch though,

903
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: So like those are these are people who are like

904
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Speaker 1: every time you speak, you're saying something that's important that

905
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: people need to hear. So what if they moderate want

906
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: of the debates instead. That's a cool idea. If the

907
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Speaker 1: people that aren't in the so like Williamson, will be

908
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: a moderate and Yang a moderate and they can bring

909
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Speaker 1: up these topics that are important and sort of engage

910
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Speaker 1: with the act like the candidates. I'm imagining Williamson grilling

911
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden on the medicinal uses of crystals. Oh god,

912
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Speaker 1: that'd be great for everybody. What a wholesome time. That

913
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Speaker 1: would be. What a bad time for him, that would be.

914
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Speaker 1: So we've we've qualified a number of candidates as Jeb's

915
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Speaker 1: and I think we're all in agreement that Beto is

916
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Speaker 1: not a Jeb, but is on the hierarchy of candidates.

917
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Speaker 1: Is Beto above a Jeb or below a Jeb based

918
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Speaker 1: on his inherent worth as as a candidate? Do we

919
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Speaker 1: do we in our heads qualify him as above sub

920
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Speaker 1: Jeb or or I think I think he's subjects. I

921
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: think he's a Jeb. Yeah, I'm so I am so

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Speaker 1: thrilled that we all agree on this that there's not

923
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Speaker 1: even any tension here. Subjeb no exclamation point after beato.

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Speaker 1: Subjeb is such a funny way to describe some real

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Speaker 1: I hope we can turn Jeb's name into like a

926
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Speaker 1: bye word for a lame politics. Oh we are, it's

927
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Speaker 1: already taken off. Yeah, by the time this a we've

928
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Speaker 1: already got, We've already got merch in the pipeline. He

929
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Speaker 1: really jebbed it. Yeah, alright, guys, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us, listening to us talk. You know what,

931
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Speaker 1: you know, that's what podcasts are. Last last time, I gave.

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Speaker 1: Last time, I gave the wrong email addresses and I

933
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Speaker 1: had to get two email addresses. But here's where we're

934
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Speaker 1: setting you. I know I biffed it, biden it. It's

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Speaker 1: worst year tips at gmail dot com? Is that better

936
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Speaker 1: or worse than a bunch of jebs bidening around the

937
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Speaker 1: rails have gone off of this? Where's your tips at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com if you want to send us questions

939
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Speaker 1: or thoughts for our upcoming show, which we're definitely doing.

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Speaker 1: It's true once we get some sleep, and remember, be

941
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Speaker 1: a jeb, not a beato. At least at least be

942
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Speaker 1: a jet. Alright, no one wants to be a jet

943
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Speaker 1: at least please be a jef. You don't need No

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Speaker 1: patos are