1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: H m hm. 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: Welcome back all the smoke Atlanta. It's been a good 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: trip so far. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Bro. 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah they ay time shouting were in here day two? 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: Uh we got all Star. 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: Fifth year, six year. 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: This is my six year old bro. Yeah. 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 3: Man, welcome to the show. De John Ty Murray. Appreciate 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: your time. 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: Man. Let me connect you for a minute. So I'm 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: glad we've done got uh got you locked in DJ 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: on the couch? Man. Huh what's been supposed to have one? 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been going back and forth them on the 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: d M for a minute. We two trying to catch up. Lit'sten, 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, schedules, they're busy. 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, got the star. Welcome to the show man. How's life? 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? How how are you adjusting to Atlanta? Man? 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 4: It's first of all, life is great, bro. Uh you 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: know where we come from, you see another day. It's 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: a blessing, right, you know. And obviously to be in 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: the situation I'm in in life in general, just you know, 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: be able to try to find that peace, you know, 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: some happiness and doing the right thing. 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: You know, so life's great. Uh, you know, as far 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: as adjustingentlan ship. I'm trying to. I'll be inside, bro 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: be outside. You know I've been chilling. I like to 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: be in my own bubble, uh, locked in, uh with 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 4: my family. 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: So I'm adjusted to it. I know they get lit 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: up here. 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: So I think you just so now you have you 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: got another one on the way. Yeah, how's that? What's 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: that feeling like? 38 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Right? You got a girl? Dad? But what's that? I mean, 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: what's that feeling? Like? Explained fatherhood to us in your opinion? 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: I mean, uh, you know I grew up. 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: You know, I always had uncles, aunt tis, my grandmother, 42 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: my mother, and my father. You know, uh it was around, 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: but my mom I ain't really grow up with that 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 4: that that relationship like mom son dad son, you feel me. 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: So it was more like a I call it like 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: a group home, but it was love. It was me 47 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: and all my family and raising my grandma's house. So 48 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: it's like, uh, you know it kind of it hit 49 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: different for me knowing that, like I ain't had a 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: taking me to school, taking me to activities, waking up 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: with breakfast, lunch, dinner, all that, like you know what 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: I mean. So having my daughter is it's easy because 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: it's what I'm supposed to do. 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: I always tell people I love or people. 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: That don't know me that see you know me being 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: a father, Like, don't praise me for something I'm supposed 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: to do. You know what I'm saying. So you know 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: it's it's crazy. I got another girl in the way. 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: My daughter's excited. I'm excited. Uh you know, but fatherhood 60 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: everything to me come first. 61 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 5: I got five girls, so I know the feeling. Speaking 62 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 5: of your father, I saw recently before I go to 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 5: my quest, I saw you you talk about you went 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 5: and raised when I saw you reached out to your 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 5: father and the bottom of truck and still kind of 66 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: men died that relationship. Talk talking a little about it 67 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 5: because that that means a lot. I did the same 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: thing for my father died like he stayed five minutes 69 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 5: away from him, but wasn't there. But as I became 70 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 5: a man and had kids, a boy, other women, I 71 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 5: understand how it could be difficult. Yeah, I could not 72 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: just be his fault, and I reached out to him 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 5: and built our relationship before he passed. So talk about 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 5: it because I saw you did the same thing for 75 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 5: your popper. Sure you was just manute you pulled up 76 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 5: with a truck for him. 77 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, nah, I mean, you know, I love my dad, 78 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: Like I think the difference that we have is I 79 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: don't be trying to tell him like you were dead, 80 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: be like I ain't on that, you know what I'm saying. 81 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: Like for me, it's the times I needed you, you 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: know what I mean. I just wanted answers. You could 83 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: have told me like you know, I wasn't right. This 84 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: was going on like I'm grown that I ain't a 85 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: little boy. So it's like we can have them conversations. 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 4: So it was like it was really you know, obviously 87 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: I didn't grow up living with him, but I remember 88 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: being around him and all that, and you know, we 89 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: just bumped heads, I think from my teenage from being 90 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: what eleven eleven all the way to you know, like 91 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen, and I always ask them like let's just 92 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: have a conversation, like I want you to get to 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: know me, like I ain't the innocent little kid that 94 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: he was used to being around. Because we want a 95 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: long time not seeing each other, you know what I mean. 96 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: Even to this day, you know, we're still bumping hiss. 97 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: But I'll be telling them like I love you like 98 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 4: I brought you to high school games, college games, the draft, 99 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 4: you know, trying to build that relationship with him. Cause 100 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: it's not easy, but it's not hard, you know what 101 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And it ain't about the materialistic things for me, 102 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: like none of that movement you feel me. 103 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: But I just know from a kid that he always 104 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: liked the tahoe you know what I'm saying. 105 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: And I ain't really did nothing for him since I 106 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: made it, because my main thing being let's build that 107 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 4: father and son relationship and all that extra stuff could 108 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: come with it, you know what I'm saying. But I 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: want to build that like I want that like I'm 110 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: in the league, bro, Like I want you to be 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: able to be at the games. I want to be 112 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: able to talk after the games, like with my father 113 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: and my mother. So it's like for me and him, 114 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: we still just it's still hard, you know what I'm saying. 115 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: But me remembering since a kid that he liked tahoes 116 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: and knowing that the family. You know, he's living in 117 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: Hawaii right now with his wife and three of my 118 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: little sisters. So knowing that you know their family, I'm like, Damn, 119 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 4: he got cars he ain't got no truck. So that's 120 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: just me always thinking to my people. Bro, I'm a giver, 121 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So you know, it wasn't 122 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: even about the truck or nothing. It was just something 123 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: that I wanted to do and just help him and 124 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: let him know, like I love you. 125 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, No matter what, Like I. 126 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 5: Love you, You're gonna always be blessed for that mentality 127 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 5: and attitude. Last Junie, you got traded by the Spurs 128 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: to the Hawks. How did you find out? 129 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Man? 130 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: I think I was in New York. I was in 131 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: New York. 132 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: Uh, just chilling, working out my homies and shit, and 133 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: me and Pop was talking. I was in a bunch 134 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: of like it started heating up. I was in trade talks, 135 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: but it was always BS. You know, Pop, you been 136 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: around and it was BS. He'll call me like it 137 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: ain't nothing. 138 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: It ain't nothing. 139 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: Then it started heating up. And then I started asking 140 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: questions though, because I'm in the gym every day. Like 141 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: I stayed in San Antonio. I didn't leave for the summers, 142 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: go back home, go la, none of that. Staying San Antonio. Yeah, 143 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm just curious to where we're going, 144 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: what we're doing, you know what I mean, because not 145 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: alone that I'm growing, but we're drafting younger guys and 146 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: it's like it ain't fair to them, and it ain't 147 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: fair to me because you know, I'm doing this and 148 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: they just getting here, and you know what I'm saying. 149 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: So I always I wasn't a selfish type to be like, oh, 150 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 4: we got to get better players, We got to do 151 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 4: this because they all talented. You here for a reason, 152 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But for me, I just 153 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 4: explain to popping them guys like it's just ain't fair 154 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: for them trying to develop and then me, you know, 155 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 4: reaching the levels on your reach and got years ahead 156 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: of them and just figuring out what we're doing. And 157 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: you know, they asked me, you know, teams that I 158 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: like to play for, and you know, Atlanta was a 159 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: team not only you know, because of Trey Young, but 160 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: just you know, the culture, our people's out here, you 161 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I love it. We played 162 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: there last year before the All Star Game. We came 163 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: here and played and I just felt the vibe. I 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: felt the atmosphere and it was something I want to 165 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: be a part. 166 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: Of that's dope. I know. I mean me playing in 167 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: San Antonio. 168 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 5: I know like I left twice, and I know how 169 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: that situation could hole players back. I went through it 170 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: because while I went through it, I became a better 171 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: player once I left. I appreciate the opportunity because I 172 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: got a chance to play with Tim and Day win 173 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: the championship and all that. 174 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: But that's it. 175 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 5: That system is not for everybody, and I saw that 176 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 5: with you. You know, same thing I said with Kawhi 177 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 5: was true when I got there with Kawhi. I see 178 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 5: the same thing with DJ Bro. I say, it's about 179 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 5: to happen. He's gonna get tired because he's not growing 180 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 5: as a player. They wanted to continue to stay in 181 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 5: that system. But he's not gonna be the best hymn 182 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 5: in that system, am I right? 183 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: Of course you witnessed it. 184 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: You was there. 185 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, So you could see between 186 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: all that to fake all of it, you know what 187 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: I mean? 188 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: So, of course, and. 189 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 5: It's professional, don't get me real. Professional is a great 190 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: organization to be a part of. But if you're not 191 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 5: Tony Parker, Gerobli, Tim Duncan, that's not. 192 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: A place where you have longevity. 193 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: So I was glad to see you leave, and I 194 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 5: was glad to see popping them send you somewhere where 195 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: you could you know what I'm saying, where you can 196 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: flourish immediately, because they will send you to somewhere where 197 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 5: you'll disappear, especially if they know they got to play 198 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 5: you again, you know what I mean. And that's one 199 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 5: thing about my second time. He didn't want to send 200 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 5: me the Clippers. He just cut me so I couldn't 201 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 5: sign with nobody el because the players were about to start. See, 202 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: I get it. I wouldnt want to see me either, 203 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: but I wouldn't want to let me either. The league, everybody, 204 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: me living here in Atlanta, everybody was excited to see 205 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 5: you and trade together. How's it Phiel been on the 206 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: corporate trade right now? Building that chemistry. 207 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a process, you know what I'm saying. 208 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: And I'm trying to put that through his head the 209 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: rest of the team's head, like it's a it's a journey. 210 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: It's a process, and what we want don't come overnight. 211 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: It ain't easy. This league's a monster. As we know, 212 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: you guys. No former players like the talent's off the roof. 213 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So, uh, you know, obviously 214 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: I like playing with him, just he could pass the ball, 215 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: he could screw the ball. And I try to tell 216 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: a lot of people like just around me, like I 217 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: don't think he gets the credit that he deserves far 218 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: as being his height and what he does. You know 219 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I'm six or five, bro, Like, 220 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So, no, I'm not gonna 221 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 4: say easier, but six foot six five, that's a big 222 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 4: difference in his league, you know what I mean. 223 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: So to see him being able to. 224 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 4: Be a thirty and ten guy like at his size, 225 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 4: I don't think he even realized it how impressive it is, 226 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 227 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: But we're still trying to figure it out. 228 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: You know, I'm somebody I don't want nothing easy, you know, 229 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: I'm Bill Fradversy. I try to tell them like, we 230 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: don't want nothing easy because at the end we're gonna smile, 231 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna laugh, joke everything. But all the 232 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: hard times, you gotta grind it out. You want it, 233 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: and you don't you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, 234 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: I like playing with them. 235 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 236 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: You know, like I said, it's a journey, it's a process. 237 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: So you gotta just these are things that you just 238 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: gotta sit and just watch, you know what I mean. 239 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 5: But see, that's that's another thing with San Antonio. See 240 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 5: you coming from San Antonio, you have more years of 241 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 5: experience than you do years of playing from here. But 242 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 5: they teach you so much over there. You know what 243 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: I'm saying. You your your basketball IQ grows there and 244 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 5: that's good for this team because the team has some 245 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 5: ups and downs before you got here. 246 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: They got high the back low again. 247 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 5: And for you to be coming there to let you 248 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 5: guys know, hey, we got a new team, but we 249 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 5: you know, we're still growing, that's important. Bro, That's important 250 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 5: because look at Boston. It's just on the half of Boston. 251 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: They drafted that and it's just starting to happen. So 252 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 5: the fact that you're coming in being a leader speaking 253 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 5: like that. 254 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: That's good for your squad. Bro. 255 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: No, for sure. 256 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 257 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: Born and raised in Seattle. Uh, incarcerated at a young age. 258 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: How did that shape your point of view once you 259 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: left that situation. 260 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 5: That's why I love him, That's why I fell in 261 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: love with him. Because I knew his story. 262 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: Now you know, it's love both of y'all shit. But 263 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, that was my environment. 264 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: Like my mom. 265 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: My mom, she grew up in prison, you know what 266 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like she was in out of prison, in 267 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: and out of jail all the time, you know, from 268 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: a kid juvenile all the way to county to prison. 269 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: And my dad he was you know, he was a hustler, 270 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: uh you know, but he didn't really do no time 271 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: like that. He'd been in jail, in and out, but 272 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: he didn't really do no time like my mom. So 273 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: that was my environment. You know, you're just a product 274 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 4: in your environment. You just go with the flow. You're 275 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: trying to make it to the next day survival, you 276 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And I had to. That had 277 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: to be my mindset at ten years old, eleven years old, 278 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: you know right away, even before that. 279 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: But I always had good people. 280 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: Like uncles, my grandma and you know, all the aunties 281 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: and stuff that looked after me. 282 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: We just as bad kids running around the neighborhood, run 283 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: around the house. You know. 284 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 4: Whereas it got to ten eleven years old, is you 285 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: know when I started getting active. You know what I 286 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: mean always was around older people, and you know, first 287 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 4: time juveniles eleven, eleven, and then thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and 288 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: I think the last time was fifteen. I knew I 289 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: was always talented in basketball, and the judges always had 290 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: something for me. It was like it was already written 291 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: from God, or like I was always getting smacks on 292 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: the wrist, you know what I mean. And I'm watching 293 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: my homies get thirty years, forty years, fifty all the 294 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: way to eighty years. Partners I talked to till this day. 295 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: Every day. You know what I'm saying. And I remember 296 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: the last time I went. It's a story I never 297 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 4: told nobody. I told people around me. But I'm fifteen 298 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: and I'm in juvenile and they detained me. They keep me, 299 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: they keep me in for an extra thirty days. I'm 300 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: thinking I'm getting out, MAYI. I'm supposed to be at practice. 301 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be at school. So there's a big 302 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 4: game coming up. It's Reyner Beach versus Botho. Zach Lavine 303 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: went to Bothel So the whole city they knew I 304 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: was younger and he was older, getting ready to go 305 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: to UCLA. But they knew the talent was there, so 306 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 4: they was hyping the game up. Right at SPU when 307 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: ma All have his crossover rat and they hyping this 308 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 4: game up. 309 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: I'm in juvenile. 310 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 4: I missed the game, biggest game of the year, biggest 311 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: game in the city. And for me, it wasn't because 312 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: they was hyping the game up. It just was, you know, 313 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: opportunity to go out showcase myself, you know what I mean, 314 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: and showed that I'm I'm ready to be the next guy. 315 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: Knowing that Zach's head in the college and then you know, 316 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: obviously the NBA. So I'm in there and I'm just thinking, like, bro, 317 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: this ain't the life I want, you know what I mean, Like, 318 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: this is not the life I want, you know what 319 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: i mean, Like even if it ain't basketball, Like I 320 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: got to figure it out. And obviously I had a 321 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: great support system. You know, my uncles, you know, they 322 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: built the plan for me. They like we about to 323 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: move them out the hood. Were about to move them, 324 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: you know, with my auntie rest in Peace was one 325 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: hundred seven years old. I lived with her, and they 326 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: was like, we're gonna move him out the way. We're 327 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: gonna homeschool them, and you know, the rest was history. 328 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: Bro. 329 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: I got out, moved away, moved away from my family, 330 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: the hood. Everything it was like I was ghosts. I 331 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: was gone Jim House, Jim House every day for three years. 332 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: So with his senior year, and I just seen you know, 333 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: them tables turning when you start doing the right thing. 334 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: I feel like God bless you, and God start blessing 335 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: me each and every day. 336 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 337 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: Rainier Beach High School three times champ guys such as 338 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: Doug Christy, Nate Robinson, Jamal Crawford, Kevin Porter Jr. 339 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: What did that mean? 340 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: Seeing all the dudes before you make that next jump, 341 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: not only at the college, but have successful careers in 342 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: the league. 343 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: I mean it speaks, It speaks volumes of uh you 344 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: know the high school. Uh you know what we what 345 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: we represent. Uh shout out coach Mike Theah. Uh he 346 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: been the coach there, the coach, all them guys all 347 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: the way up to right now. And UH, for me, 348 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: it just it just motivated me, you know, seeing them 349 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: guys being around them, guys playing against them, guys getting 350 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: to pick their brain. But more so, uh, you know, 351 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: I took all their situations and just use it for 352 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: what to do and not to do. Uh, you know, 353 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: because we got a lot of guys, so even you know, 354 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: Terrence Williams, he went there. 355 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: He was nice to nice, you know what I'm saying. 356 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: And for me, like I just I just utilized all that, Bro, 357 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: I just I took advantage of it. You know, I 358 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: didn't play with like I said, when I changed my 359 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: life and I was like, I'm gonna do the right thing. 360 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: I was to take advantage of everything good, bad, but 361 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: mainly the good and and you know, all them guys 362 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 4: played the part in where I'm at today. You remember 363 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: do named Doug Rin. 364 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my cousin. 365 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: That's your cousin. 366 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: That's my blood cousin, Bro, Doug, blood cousin. 367 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: Cool, so talented, bro, but was always in some ship, 368 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: always used to play together in Au. Doug was so 369 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: fucking cool, bro. Yeah tell him, I said, what up, 370 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. 371 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: That was my home. 372 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: He's still crazy, Yeah he was, but but stat he 373 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: had so much game, bro, and went to the dug. 374 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 375 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: So I got a chance to meet you at Jamal 376 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: Crawford's wedding and we know what kind of obviously, what 377 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: kind of basketball had Jamal is so Jamal doesn't tell 378 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: none of us this shit. 379 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: So we get there the first day. You know what 380 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing. 381 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: I'm jumping off the bus or I'm jumping off the plane, 382 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: going to smoke drinking. Okay, I got a couple of 383 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: days off the chill. Jamal hits us, we got some 384 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: shit to do at midnight. It was like midnight, what 385 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: you're talking about? 386 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna play some basketball, Like come on, what 387 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about? 388 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: Like huh. So we end up going to where he 389 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: has this program at. When I tell you that shit 390 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: was sold out at midnight Jack like six thousand people 391 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: in that thing packed. Little skinny dude with a curly tops. 392 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was. 393 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: This motherfucker killed had like almost fifty. He was only 394 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: maybe a sophomore at junior high school. 395 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: What I was a junior junior. I was going to 396 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: my junior I believe. 397 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: When I tell you, stole the show. 398 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: Like no one was playing super serious until they saw 399 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 3: how hard he was going. And then him and Jamal 400 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: started going out. I was like, yo, who is he's 401 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: He's going to the pros go. That's that's the little homies. 402 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: He's nice, he's supposed to go to you, dub. I'm like, damn, 403 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: this little nigga's cold. But you know me, I was 404 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: trying to chill. This dude just came in the gym 405 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: killing but that was. 406 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: Always one of the hungry niggah man. 407 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 3: But that was Jamal's like that, that's his bachelor party 408 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: playing basketball. 409 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: I was like, what are we doing in here? 410 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: But that's when I got a chance to meet him 411 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: and just saw and ever since then, I just kind 412 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 3: of started phone him and just continuing to see his growth. 413 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: And obviously, you know, Seattle is a hot bed for talent, 414 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: and like you said, everyone played a part and you 415 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: kind of making it. But speak to the importance of 416 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 3: what kind of mentor Jamal Crawford has been to you 417 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: and meant to you. 418 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: I mean, uh, you know, Mal was the mall. Was 419 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: the first pro that I ever met. 420 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: And I remember it was like sixth grade and at 421 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: this time that was a time where I was being 422 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: a knucklehead but still playing aau ball and uh. He 423 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: got a close friend, coach, teammate he played with, but 424 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 4: their close friends. His name is Dave King, uh and 425 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 4: Dave told him like, man, you got you gotta look 426 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: look out for Terry's nephew. Terry's my uncle that grew 427 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 4: up with him, and he's like, you got to look 428 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: out for his nephew. 429 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: He cold. 430 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: He's sixth grade, but he cold. 431 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: And to me, they like Jamal Cafford come to your game, 432 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't care going to hoop, you 433 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I didn't know the importance 434 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: of positive successful people. 435 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: Like all I knew was my environment, you know what 436 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 437 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: So it's like I ain't care to take photos, autographs, 438 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 4: none of that, you know what I mean. But obviously 439 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 4: I knew who he was, and that was somebody always 440 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: heard of and stuff. So I remember meeting him sixth grade. 441 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 4: I think I scored like forty points that game, and 442 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: he came up to me after and he's like, you 443 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: got it, you know what I mean, and we locked in, 444 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: and ever since then it was more like, you know, 445 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: just him teaching this teaching that allowed me to be 446 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 4: in the gym with them, bringing y'all back a bunch 447 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: of you guys in the pros and allowing us to 448 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 4: be around pros and see what it's like to be 449 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 4: a professional. Not the money, not the fame or even 450 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: your profession. Just you know, mean, see how y'all carry y'allself. 451 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: See how true y'all real y'all that could still come 452 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: and be around the youth, you know what I'm saying. 453 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 4: So just just by him doing that, Uh, you know, 454 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 4: they speak values and you know, I forever salute him 455 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 4: just for taking me under his wing when he ain't 456 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 4: have to. There's a million other kids that you could 457 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: have chose, you know what I'm saying. So just having 458 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 4: somebody like that, you know, be in my corner. Uh, 459 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: you know, it's all love. And like I tell him, 460 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: you know, I'm forever in debt with you, I'm always 461 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: stankful and grateful, famam fam. 462 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: Obviously the Sonics growing up? How many times does he 463 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: tip with you a day? Yeah? How many times? 464 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: Are crazy? 465 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 5: Bro? 466 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 3: What what was it like getting a chance to be 467 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: a part of his uh his pro am league again, 468 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: seeing those guys come through such as Lebron and you 469 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: name it. 470 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: Everyone's been through that league. But what was a part 471 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: of What was it like growing up and being a 472 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: part of it. 473 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's it's powerful because obviously the 474 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: Sonics is gone, you know, what I'm saying, So he 475 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: don't have to do that. Obviously he took it along 476 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: and put it on the weight on his shoulder from 477 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 4: Doug Christy. 478 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: But he don't got to do that. 479 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: You know, you play and then you know, in the summers, 480 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: y'all both players, So y'all know, time go by like this, 481 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So for him, he give 482 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 4: his twelve months a year to basketball, you know what 483 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying. He was playing in the league seven eight months. 484 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 4: Then the rest he was coming to, you know, proing 485 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: and proing and proing. So to see it grow from 486 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 4: Rainer Beach High School to it was at the Vista 487 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: and now he's at you know, SPU where it's a 488 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: bigger venue. And just to see it grow and watch 489 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: all these guys come there and just seeing the love 490 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: that it gets just proves that we need a team, 491 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 492 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: So always say like when. 493 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: We get a team, I feel like they got to 494 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: give him the credit he deserved, you know what I mean, 495 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: because just what he does every summer. You know, obviously 496 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: we all play a part in it, but you know, 497 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: he's the He's the main point of it. And he's 498 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 4: the man behind it, and you know those are flowers. 499 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 4: I give him to this day, and I'm gonna give 500 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: him after this day, you know what I mean? Just 501 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: knowing that we don't got a team and you bring 502 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: pros to the city, right. 503 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 3: You've been very vocal on social media talking to your 504 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 3: NBA brothers about coming out and playing and whatever program is, 505 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: just to get fans an opportunity to see you. Where 506 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: did that come from? Is that from growing up in 507 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 3: it pretty much and seeing what it does to the city. 508 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: I think just growing up from it, but also just 509 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: who I stand for, who I am as a person, 510 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 4: Like none of this money fame like it don't move 511 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: to Jonte bro like for real life, you know what 512 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean, Like I know who I am, I'm true 513 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: to who I am, and I remember being that kid 514 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: on that side, you know what I'm saying, and not 515 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: thinking like I ain't never gonna meet. 516 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 2: Him pro, you know what I mean. 517 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: I never thought I'd me a pro even when I 518 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: heard of Jamal and Jason or them guys, I'm I 519 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: ain't never gonna meet them, you know what I'm saying. 520 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: So just knowing that I made it this far, and 521 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: I made it to this. 522 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: I know it ain't nothing for us to go play, 523 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: you know, for free, but in front of the youth 524 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 4: or just low income people that can't afford to see 525 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: us play. 526 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: You got into a back and forth with another up 527 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: and coming out of your way, Polo during the summer, 528 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 3: and it got physical and it got real, and I 529 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: liked it because I, like I said, I think that 530 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: basket of that type of basketball is gone. But was 531 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: that just competitive? Did you guys have a little bit 532 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: of funk or was it just on the court and 533 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: it was cool? 534 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 4: The thing about me, bro, like you said, I love 535 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: it like I wish the league right now is more 536 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: like auld grab you could ri rah rah. You know 537 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like that's where I come from, you 538 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I love it me personally, 539 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 4: but a lot of people can't really take it. So 540 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: with Polo, like I love Polo, you know what I mean, 541 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: Like Polo is he's the one. You know what I'm saying, 542 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 4: Ain't no competition in my head with none of us, 543 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: the guys that already made it and the ones that's 544 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 4: made it and the ones that sept trying to make it, 545 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: but for me with him, like it was competitive, Like 546 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: I don't talk one thing about me. I don't talk 547 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: when I play basketball because I know that I played 548 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: the game how it's supposed to be played, and I 549 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: played hard. So it's like I'm gonna get the best 550 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 4: of you, you know what I mean. And I'm gonna 551 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 4: do my thing regardless. So you know, with that, they 552 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: start ro Ryan you know what I mean. Uh, it 553 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: was it was it was it Zken and the zekend. 554 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna get no pros. I'm like, I'm bringing 555 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 4: a couple of my brothers from the hood, you know, 556 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 4: a bunch of these guys, you know, some of the 557 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: dudes that's trying to go overseas or some of the 558 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 4: ones in college that need opportunity. That's what I'm going 559 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: to get. I was the only pro And that was 560 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: like the topic. Everybody was saying. All the top teams playing, Uh, 561 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: they like, oh, baby boys, team just got he got 562 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: a bunch of hood this and that he ain't got 563 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 4: no they ain't gonna win nothing, you know what I'm saying. 564 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 4: So I'm hearing all my omies is telling me, and 565 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 4: I ain't tripping, So we get to the game and 566 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: the sideline's talking crazy, like when I don't go outside, 567 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: so when I travel, like we don't play that, you 568 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like we move how we're supposed 569 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: to move. So I got all my people with me, 570 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and they just watched me. 571 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: Who they enjoying it, you know what I'm saying, And 572 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: they just ruying. They just yapping. 573 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: It started with the bench and it started with the players. 574 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: Then a lot of disrespectful things that I won't get 575 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 4: into details start happening, you know what I'm saying, And 576 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: I'm more was shocked the line got crossed. That line 577 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 4: got crossed. You feel me like even seeing like I 578 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: don't follow the media. 579 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Bro. 580 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 4: You can say good things about me, bad things about me. 581 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: It ain't gonna move me. It ain't stopping what I'm 582 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: doing or who I am. But it's like I'm looking 583 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: at a lot and it's like I feel like the 584 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: world is like it's kind of like soft, like you 585 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like it's moving to where a 586 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 4: lot of people is just entitled but sensitive, like they 587 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 4: can't take nothing. And I ain't saying nothing about nobody. 588 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 4: But it's like if you know me, or you watch me, 589 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: you will see that I don't ride with nobody like 590 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: even in the league, bro, I don't rib riding none 591 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: of that because I know ain't nobody about to fight, 592 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: Ain't nobody about to do none of that. You feel 593 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: me like, I ain't wasting my time, bro. So it's 594 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: like that that game they was rying. It started with 595 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: his partners on the side, like and they young boys, 596 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: they nineteen twenty, like everybody hang with twenty eight thirty something, 597 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, and we really from it, 598 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So when they start crossing 599 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: the line talking street stuff, talking money, Oh you suck 600 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: or this or this and that, I'm about to turn 601 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 4: this motherfuck up. 602 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 603 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 4: Because even my mama on the side like, yeah, you 604 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: know what to do. Turn it up, you feel what 605 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And all I did was turn it up. 606 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 4: That's all I did. And then for me, he went 607 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: to the internet and said what he said, but was 608 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: said I didn't like because once you show me, once 609 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 4: you show me a certain way for who you are, 610 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: then I ain't got time to be trying to frame 611 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 4: you again or none of that like, I ain't got. 612 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: Time for that. You cross the line, you cross the line. 613 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: I want you to stand on that. 614 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Obviously, who can get the 615 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: you know, emotions get the best of us. But the 616 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: things that I was said, it wasn't It was like 617 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 4: something that being wanted to be said. 618 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 2: You feel me. 619 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 4: It was personal, dog like and I don't bother nobody. 620 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: I show all them love, bro. You feel I'm saying 621 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: all of them, love all of them. I want them 622 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: to be better than me. That's how I real I am, Bro, 623 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: you feel me. I want you to make more money 624 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 4: to me. I want you to have more success than me, 625 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: because I know it's enough for all of us. And 626 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: I'm a good person at the end of the day. 627 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 4: You feel me, So with that, that's that, Man, it happened. 628 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: We don't talk. Me and him don't talk. You know 629 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 4: he still feel a way. But for me, my phone's 630 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: always available. I'm always available because I know it ain't 631 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 4: really it ain't really nothing. It's gonna come down to 632 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 4: me and him meeting like this. I don't want to 633 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: talk on the phone, bro, I don't want to be 634 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: on the internet. See me in real life. 635 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 636 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 4: Let's have a conversation. Because I love you. I'll let 637 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 4: you come to my open gyms. You want the rebound 638 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: for me as a kid, all that I told you before, 639 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: all them guys, You're gonna be somebody. You was the 640 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 4: number one pick all my brothers. 641 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: We was in LA. 642 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: I jumped out of my chair getting a haircut, getting tattoos, 643 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: bro screaming, you know what I mean. So it's like, 644 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: I love that kid, bro, and I'm not surprised at 645 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: what he's doing right now, you know. But it's like 646 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: when that happened, I seen the change and a lot 647 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: of people, bro, Like I've seen a lot of people, 648 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: even from my city, they know they couldn't throw no 649 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: salt on my name because they know, you know how 650 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 4: authentic I am and what I stand for and I'm 651 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: never in drama. But when that happened, like you start 652 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: seeing true colors, like I start hearing all type of stuff, bro, 653 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: former pros, seeing people try to pick a side. Ain't 654 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 4: know side of the pick. We're supposed to be together, 655 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: you feel me, but you start seeing the real you 656 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So that's why I just you know, 657 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: I back off. But even so, I still watch his games. 658 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: I support him. You asked me the Rookie of the 659 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: year him. Ain't nothing changed with me, you know what 660 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 661 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: But it is what it is. 662 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: Man. 663 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: I think. 664 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: A lot of them got mad because we we came 665 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: and we did. We did, and I ain't had no pros. 666 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: BRO beat them right, we won the whole thing. I 667 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: T had like seven pros. 668 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: We blew that. 669 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: We blew them out. I'm telling you when I turned 670 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: when I turned up. 671 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: That semi semi finals game, versus pollowing them, I said, yeah, 672 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 4: we're not leaving Tacoma without the trophy, you know what 673 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 674 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: And we're gonna let y'all know. Like I'm getting calls 675 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: from prison, they like, Bro, why'd you do that to 676 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: I T? And why y'all doing that? 677 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 678 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 4: Like, and it was there's more statement like I was chilling, bro, 679 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: Like you know, because in the summer, you want to 680 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: protect yourself, so you ain't really trying to go that hard. 681 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: You feel me. 682 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: But it's like when I start feeling that, you know, 683 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: they start playing. They brought it out of me. I'm 684 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: looking at Mom, I'm looking at the homies. They like, 685 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: turn up y'all FU, And that's how I haven't you know. 686 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: University of Washington, you played one year and went to 687 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 5: the draft. How was your process with going into the 688 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 5: draft and how many things did you work out? 689 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: For? 690 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 4: Bro? 691 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: I left. 692 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: I was so in love with college, Bro, I can imagine, 693 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 4: just to just to know, I went sophomore, the senior year, 694 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: really freshman. Really all four of my years, I really 695 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 4: wasn't in class. Freshman year I was I was stuggn Bro, 696 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I was only going to practice. 697 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 4: I was literally going to practice, and it was back 698 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: to the block, or it was back in the trap 699 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: with my brother's Like I swear that That's exactly what 700 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: my life was. My environment was so sophomore, junior, senior year, 701 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 4: I start branching out. It started being the gym, like 702 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: I said with my great aunt. Then I'm going to 703 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: All American camps. Now I'm getting ranked, Now I'm getting letters. 704 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: Now I'm this. 705 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm doing the right thing. So I go 706 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: to you, Dug. 707 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: I didn't get accepted right away, so I told coach Romar, 708 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: Like Romar, if I don't get accepted, it's over. I 709 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 4: ain't doing the juco none of that. Like it's over. 710 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: I get accepted, like probably like a month after I 711 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 4: arrived on campus, Romar called me, he's crying. Then I 712 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: just start crying because it's like that was the last thing. 713 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, Bro, I know I'm a person. If I 714 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: stand on something, I'm gonna stand on it. Since a kid, 715 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: That's just how I was raised. And I knew if 716 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: I didn't get accepted, I wasn't doing no more basketball 717 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: is a good dude. 718 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: Great dude, bro, great dude, Like I love him to death. Bro. 719 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: And when I got accepted, it was on the popping 720 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: because now it's like, okay, I'm mapping it all out. 721 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking about the league because I know, like 722 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,239 Speaker 4: I'm about to lock in. I got everything I need 723 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: around me from the weights to the trainers everything. So 724 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 4: this is going for me to just show up, go 725 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: do your thing. But for me, it's like, damn, I'm 726 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: about to enjoy college. 727 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: Now. 728 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: I'm about to enjoy being in class again. Like I 729 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: ain't been in classes eighth grade with students. You feel 730 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It's four years that I was around 731 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: no students. So when I get to college, I'm tripping 732 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: three hundred people in one class. 733 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, bro, what this is? 734 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: I made it? 735 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 4: I'm telling I'm calling home, like even though homes thirty 736 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: forty minutes away, but I'm like, bro, I made it, Bro, 737 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 4: I made it, you know what I mean. 738 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: And then just being around all of that, and you know, 739 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: obviously I locked in. 740 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: I said I'm gonna go to like three four parties 741 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: in the beginning because you know, football seasons early, and 742 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: then they start ending when basketball starts, I'm like, I'm 743 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 4: gonna go to like three four parties. 744 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: Went to like three four parties. 745 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 4: After that, I'm like, when the season start, I'm locked 746 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: in the gym, practice, school games. 747 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: That's it. Time go by. 748 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 4: I ain't even think about the league, bro, I promise you. 749 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm high off life. I'm happy to be there, 750 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: like I'm enjoying all of it. And now they just 751 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 4: start I start hoping. I'm hooping, hooping. I see one 752 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: scout next week, tenuts next practice, twenty scouts. Because we 753 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: had Marquez Chris two. He went number eight in our draft, 754 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 4: and I'm like, this should becoming a reality bro, Like 755 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: it's all right here. So I'm trying to stay focused. 756 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 4: You got in the newspaper, the news. You going around 757 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: campus now, can't go to no class, there's nothing, and 758 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 4: it's just like NBA. He's gonna go to NBA. He's 759 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: gonna leave, He's gonna leave. 760 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: Mini. This was never a thought, bro. I thought I 761 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: was about to go to school for at least three 762 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: four years. 763 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 4: And it comes to a point where it's like January 764 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm getting the information information and they're like, yeah, 765 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: you're gonna go top ten from former pros all the agencies, 766 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 4: You're going top ten. 767 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: So when when I heard that, I'm like, obviously you 768 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: want to win. But it's like. 769 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: At that moment, my mom was house to house, you 770 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like hotel, just my my whole family, 771 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: like the cycle, the whole was all messed up, you 772 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 773 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 2: So for me, I'm thinking for my family. 774 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: Even to this day, I think for my people because 775 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: I feel like God gave me that blessing to where 776 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: he put all the weight on my shoulders to carry 777 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: because you know I can handle it. 778 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 779 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: So it's like. 780 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 4: I told Romar in January, like yeah, Romar, I ain't 781 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: gonna tell the team because I don't want my teammates 782 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 4: to start feeling the type of way or you know, 783 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 4: any selfish any of that. So I'm like, Romot, I 784 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: think I'm gonna go. And from that point I stopped 785 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: going to school. It was just practice and Romar, you know, 786 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 4: he knew we had that relationship to where I could 787 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 4: go do that and tell him, you know what I mean. 788 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: And when we got to like what I think, March, 789 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 4: we went to the n it we lost, and after 790 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: that I let my teammates know all my brothers, like, 791 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 4: you know, I'm to the league. But even them, they're 792 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: like dog go because they knew my story. You know, 793 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 4: they seen it, They seen the pain, they seen all 794 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 4: of it. They see my family, how deep they came. 795 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: I had the whole family, the whole hood that you done. 796 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like it was so crazy. 797 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 4: They used to the security used to tell me, like, man, 798 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 4: tell your family to chill out. 799 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 2: They two turts. They leave it at halftime, trying to 800 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: come back in Like you know what I'm saying. 801 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: You know, come on, man. So it's like when I. 802 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: Get to the point where I'm like, yeah, I'm out 803 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 4: of here, and then I chose the best. I wouldn't 804 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: visit like three four agencies. But Rich Paul was just 805 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 4: too He was too authentic for me, Like he felt 806 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 4: like he was phrased, you know what I mean. Before 807 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 4: I even knew his story, before I moved to Cleveland 808 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 4: to understand, you know, where he's from, his block, his neighborhood, 809 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 4: you know his story. Like I just since that because 810 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 4: you know, real recognize real for real. We could see 811 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 4: through real fake all that. So it's like when I 812 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: first met him, bro, I was like you one of us. Bro, 813 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 4: I'm like, I ain't meet with nobody else. Like I'll 814 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 4: be in Cleveland and April Raiders start my draft process, 815 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 4: you know. So we get out there more to Cleveland 816 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 4: with my uncles and we're there for like what three months, 817 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: and I worked out I even go to Combine. I 818 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,479 Speaker 4: worked out for seven six seven teams. All them teams 819 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 4: promised me, majority of them they all promised like and 820 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 4: they was like, don't go to Combine. Rich was like, 821 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a good idea to go to 822 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: combin just from the information he had and the thing 823 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: about me that bothers me to today and showed me 824 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: the business of it. 825 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: But how cutthroat this is? Like I was honest with him. 826 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: They went the information they was going to get on me, 827 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 4: the league, They went everywhere, as you guys know, they 828 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 4: went everywhere. They went to middle schools, high schools, janitors, juveniles, 829 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Random people. I had so 830 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 4: many random people come up to me like, Yo, they 831 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 4: came up to me. The janitor at you Doug when 832 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 4: I made it and came back to go work out, 833 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 4: he like, they came and they're asking me like, did 834 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 4: you ever disrespect Did he ever disrespect you? 835 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: Was he mean? Was he nice with what? 836 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 837 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 4: Like, So that's when I started realizing that it's really federal. 838 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 4: They really investigated, you know what I'm saying. So when 839 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 4: when I get to Cleveland stuff, you know, I work 840 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 4: out for them, teams, interviews, all was smooth. They always 841 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 4: blown away like yeah, he got the work ethic, he 842 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 4: just needed a chance. Great person and he was honest 843 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 4: because they asked me. Obviously I ain't speaking on a lot, 844 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 4: but you asked me certain things like you know, I'm 845 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 4: telling y'all what y'all need to know, and you don't 846 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 4: need to know what you don't need to know. But 847 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 4: it's like I was honest with my upbringing, you know 848 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I was honest about everything they 849 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 4: asked him out he was juvenile four time? Yes, I was, 850 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just honest about everything. And 851 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 4: I just remember the majority of them like, oh, we're 852 00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: picking you, whether it was nine, Milwaukee, ten, eleven, twelve, 853 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 4: up all the way to fourteen. So we get to 854 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 4: the draft. I brought everybody in New York. Dudes ain't 855 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 4: even been on the plane before. They in New York. 856 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 2: So we in my room. 857 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 4: I'm getting dressed, and a lot of weird things start happening. Bro, 858 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 4: Like I'm getting calls now, like yo, the Fed is 859 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 4: the Fed is looking at a lot of people in 860 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 4: his entourage. 861 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 2: Bro, this is what a team's calling. I ain't gonna 862 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: say they name with a team called, like the FED 863 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: is looking at him a bunch of people in his entourage. 864 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, huh. 865 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 4: Then a lot of weird other stuff start happening. So 866 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 4: now I'm looking at Rich like we ain't even got 867 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 4: to the table yet, you know what I'm saying, I ain't. 868 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 4: I'm still getting dressed, smiling, playing music, and were getting 869 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 4: ready to get to the green room. And when we 870 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 4: get to the green room, now a lot of weird 871 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: stuff start happening, bro, Like a lot of teams start 872 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 4: texting Rich like. 873 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: His background. 874 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: Oh he was in the game all this, like the 875 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 4: stuff I seen, and somebody did some foul some foul, 876 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 4: foul business, bro. And like both of y'all gonna be 877 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 4: disappointed when I tell you off record, like what they did? 878 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 4: You feel me like they did some foul business, bro, 879 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 4: that spread it Rest in peace. Paul Allen told him 880 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 4: something spread it around the whole league, like, and it 881 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 4: wasn't something they already didn't know. It's just like that 882 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 4: person was like trying to stop me from making it. 883 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if they seen me as a threat, 884 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: seeing me as whatever, but they was like, man, we 885 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 4: got to slow this down, like nah, let's spread this around. 886 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And that shit hurt me 887 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 4: because I love that person. You feel me like I 888 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 4: love that person and that weak and that was my 889 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 4: that was my process. So I'm sitting at the table, 890 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 4: mind you said Antonio was they all came to Cleveland 891 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 4: to meet with me. San Antonio is trying to trade 892 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: up for me. They had the twenty ninth pick, yep, 893 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 4: but knowing the information that they had from all the teams, like, 894 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 4: he's not going past fifteen. So san Antonio told me, 895 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 4: like in the interview, like, we can't let you go 896 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 4: nowhere else. But san Antonio like, we got to trade 897 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 4: up to the lottery to get you, Like we're about. 898 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: To do that. 899 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 4: So I'm in the green room. I'm like, shit, I 900 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 4: ain't even might. I don't care about going lottery. 901 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: None of that. 902 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm just bro. I'm about to shake the commissioners in. 903 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: Bro, I'm about to get in. 904 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm about to get in the dough, like you know 905 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, so I promise you, bro. Like 906 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 4: even people said I look mad at the draft, they 907 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 4: don't know. I was mad at text messages I was 908 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 4: seeing that was spreading around the league. 909 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That's what I was mad about. 910 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 2: But do you not know that the hope that I gave. 911 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 4: My city, my neighborhood, my family, my brother's in prison. 912 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 4: I got thirty four people that I talked to in 913 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 4: prison to this day. You feel what I'm saying, and 914 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 4: they get to see that Bro, like BRO made it, 915 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 4: I can get out of prison, you know what I'm saying. 916 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 2: My family's like BRO made it. My mom like my 917 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: son made it, no excuses. 918 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 4: I could go be whatever I want to be, you 919 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because they know I come from 920 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 4: exactly where they come from. So it's like that process, Bro, 921 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 4: it was a blessing. Like at the end of the day, 922 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 4: first round twenty ninth, and I didn't know a lot 923 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: about it, Like me going The difference from me going 924 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 4: what twelve to twenty nine was money that if you 925 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 4: work hard, stay true to yourself, be a good person, 926 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 4: you're gonna make that money. 927 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: You gonna make it back. And then you know what 928 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So that was the only difference. 929 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 4: Obviously you got the hype that come with it, the 930 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 4: politics that come with being a top ten pick or 931 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 4: late first round, second undraft, you know what I'm saying. 932 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 4: So for me, I was in the door when I 933 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 4: shook the commissioners in. You gotta think this wasn't no 934 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: video game. This was real life, like you know what 935 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 4: I mean, and the rest was history. 936 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: Bro. 937 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 5: What's your first impression of the Spurs when you get there, 938 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 5: because you know when Pop told me he wanted to 939 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 5: sign me. The first thing he told me, Look, I 940 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 5: know you smoke weed. We're gonna sign you, but you 941 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 5: can't smoke weed. And you know me, sure, Pop smoke 942 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 5: ever again in life, smoke couple. I was left right, 943 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 5: But they know everything about you before you even set 944 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 5: foot in there. Your first impression when you got to 945 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 5: San Antonio? 946 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 4: My first impression, bro, I just was like, first of all, 947 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 4: the Spurs was hell of boring to me growing up. 948 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 5: Like San Antonio is a leading city for obesity for 949 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 5: women in Texas. Let me throw that out there. You 950 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 5: get that I lived there. All they do is eat 951 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 5: and don't work out. 952 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 2: And my barber he knows about that. He for the 953 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 2: tone you. 954 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,479 Speaker 4: Know life, Hey, But when I mean when I mean boring, 955 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 4: it's like when I was growing up and they was winning, Like. 956 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: You know how we play like we were like a 957 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: I you know what I'm saying. 958 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 4: Oh, Like they was past cut screen away Like I 959 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 4: was like, I don't watch the Spurs, bro, Like they're 960 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 4: born you know what I mean. But greatness, don't never 961 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 4: get it twisted. I won't never get it twisted. Greatness, 962 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 4: that ship don't work for sure, for shure, none of 963 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 4: that swing swing. 964 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: Hey, look, none of that works without. 965 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 4: And that's what I said when I was young watching 966 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, winning, You know what I'm saying. 967 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 4: So first impression on I get there. Obviously I know 968 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 4: my history. So one thing about me, I always like, 969 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 4: bef I meet somebody or you know, obviously the NBA. 970 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 4: I love basketball, I love studying it. So it's like, 971 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 4: you know, I knew they were different. There was always 972 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 4: a team that was never loud, you know all that, 973 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 4: not flashy, not flashy. So even me, I'm like, damn, 974 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 4: the way I play, even though I play the right way, 975 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, I still got some shit to me, Like damn, 976 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 4: going to San Antonio, all right, I'm about to take 977 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 4: advantage of it. 978 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: So I go. 979 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 4: It's like a roller coaster. You know what I'm saying. 980 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 4: It's a roller coaster. Bro Obviously I know I'm not 981 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 4: about to play right away. Like our starting lineup was 982 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 4: Tony Danny kawhi uh, the Marcus Audrige para Gasol brom 983 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 4: not about to play, Like what about to. 984 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: Go Wave Towns? You need some Gatorade, g League, you 985 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 986 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 4: So for me, Popp didn't even like he ain't even 987 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 4: talked to me when I first got there, I'm tripping. 988 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, MONU didn't talk to me, popped and talked 989 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: to me. TP ain't talk to me. 990 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, damn, these motherfuckers like me, like 991 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 4: they like me or what they don't like me? 992 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: Like what's going on? 993 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man, I 994 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 4: ain't tripping. I'm rocking with Kawhi, Danny Green, we had 995 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 4: Jonathan Simmons. He's from Houston, solid, solid, real one. You 996 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 4: know Kyle Anderson. So I'm I'm rocking with him, you 997 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 4: know what I mean. I'm rocking with my guys. And 998 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 4: as times start going, I made an impression like I'm 999 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 4: about to lock shit up. I'm about to play defense, 1000 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 4: get every rebound, every loose ball, everything. 1001 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: And because you know, we don't practice it lot. We 1002 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,959 Speaker 2: don't practice. 1003 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: Quickest way on the court in San Antonio is. 1004 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 4: Playing d We don't practice. So I'm like, I gotta 1005 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 4: utilize because these guys is older, like. 1006 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 1007 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: So when I get my. 1008 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 4: Chance, it's training camp and that's it. And now you 1009 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 4: just got to hope somebody rest that get the game 1010 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 4: or you know, obviously you don't never want to see 1011 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 4: nobody hurt, but you get hurting an opportunity to the 1012 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 4: next person, next man up, you know. So for me, Bro, 1013 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 4: the impression was really different. It was like something I've 1014 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 4: never been around, you know what I'm saying, Like, and 1015 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 4: it was a roller coaster for him. 1016 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 2: I used to go home mad. 1017 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 4: I had my uncle living with me, and I used 1018 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 4: to go home mad Bro just from not understanding, Like 1019 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 4: when we come from you won't understand what they're putting 1020 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,479 Speaker 4: you through, you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't 1021 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 4: understand nothing, Like like they'll throw me in the fire, 1022 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 4: then they'll make me. They're like, you're not I'll come 1023 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 4: to the arena. They're like, you're not dressing up today. 1024 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 4: I don't even got a sports jacket. They trying to 1025 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 4: give me a big ass sports jacket, like now you 1026 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 4: could wear palkasas sports jacket. Like so for me, I'm 1027 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 4: like there's a lot being thrown at me, Bro, and 1028 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I don't like this, bro, Then I'm 1029 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 4: going home. I'm telling Unk like Unk's older, he's just 1030 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 4: enjoying it, like he having fun. 1031 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 2: You know, his nephew made it and he out there 1032 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 2: with me. 1033 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm going home, like, Man, I'm busting Tony's ass and practice, 1034 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,479 Speaker 4: I'm busting Patty Miller's ass and practice, I'm locking them up. 1035 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1036 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, like, give me five minutes, give me 1037 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 4: seven minutes, like then they send me to the G League. 1038 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 2: Then that's time start going bro. 1039 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 4: Like they bringing a point guard from Argentina that's close 1040 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 4: with Manu playing in front of me and Minam. I'm 1041 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 4: behind Tony Patty. But they playing these mind games. They 1042 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 4: trying to see if they could break me, not knowing 1043 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 4: you can't break. 1044 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: I want you to break yourself. 1045 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 4: They want you to break yourself, you know what I'm saying. 1046 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 4: And they doing that though I'm at home tripping punched holes, 1047 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 4: you know what i mean. I'm rob Ron, my uncle's vinn. 1048 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: You know. 1049 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 4: But a lot of just more start they playing other 1050 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 4: guys that was second round picks, undrafted in front of me. Now, 1051 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 4: I'm just like, bro, what's going on. I'm hitting rich. 1052 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 4: I'm hitting Rich. I'm like, Bro, I gotta get traded. 1053 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 4: He like he ain't got no value, you feel me. 1054 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, Bro, this is too much. 1055 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: Bro. 1056 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, what if they put me through? Bro, I 1057 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 4: don't understand. I start hearing your name, Steve jack went. 1058 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 2: Through a lot of BS. Obviously we know you. 1059 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 4: I know you cod so you gotta tell you come on, bro, 1060 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: And it's like a lot of people like I start 1061 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 4: get building relationships, like you know, my barber from there, 1062 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 4: we seven knowing. 1063 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: I went through because I used to go in that 1064 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: same shot. 1065 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, That's what I'm saying. 1066 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 4: So like I start building relationships with you know, people 1067 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 4: from there, not a lot like he really don't like 1068 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 4: you know, he's solid, you know, and brought him alone 1069 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 4: with me today because he's solid, you know what I'm saying. 1070 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: But like even him like he brought up you. 1071 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 4: He's like, man, Steve Jackson, you remind me of Stephen Jackson, 1072 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 4: his uncle, all of them. They like you remind me 1073 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 4: Steve Jacks like he was going through the same, you know, 1074 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 4: vincing mad d da da da. And now it's like 1075 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 4: people don't realize, bro, I went through so much there, 1076 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 4: Like I was there six years. 1077 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: You feel I'm saying, like, you don't seem like he 1078 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: was there that long either. 1079 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 2: It doesn't. 1080 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: But it's like. 1081 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 2: I feel like, really like and they know I feel 1082 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 2: this way. I feel like they really like they drafting me. 1083 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 4: But they feel like the stuff that was going around 1084 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 4: the air of me coming from the hood and not 1085 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 4: out of die, that I was gonna make it. And 1086 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 4: on too Roge thirty people smoking, drinking and articles about 1087 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 4: fighting just ruining their reputation to what they stand for 1088 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 4: as a spurs. You know, I think that's what they thought, 1089 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 4: but they never said that, you know what I mean, 1090 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 4: just from the stuff I had to go through. And 1091 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 4: when they seem like he needed a chance, and this 1092 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 4: motherfucker be in the gym, like they start having to 1093 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 4: kick me out the gym, Like when they say you 1094 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 4: got access twenty four hours every day, knowing I wasn't playing, 1095 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 4: so I'm like, uh, lace him up, like we took 1096 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: the gym gym, you know what I mean. 1097 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 2: I was just every day and obviously. 1098 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,439 Speaker 4: I started growing first year go by, you know, throwing 1099 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 4: in the fire in the playoffs versus the Rockets. Then 1100 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 4: my second year, they see I come back obviously getting stronger, 1101 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 4: getting better. And then I was the year I took 1102 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 4: the job from Tony popped about us in the office. 1103 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,479 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, He told Tony Tony ain't 1104 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 4: like it. 1105 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 2: I know he ain't like it. 1106 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: You know he ain't. 1107 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1108 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,919 Speaker 4: Like for me, I love real, Like keep it up, buck, 1109 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 4: when you keep it a hundred, bro, I'm gonna love 1110 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 4: you for that, you know what I mean? 1111 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 2: And I know he didn't like it. 1112 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 4: You feel me because if he liked it, he would 1113 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 4: have mentored me the way he should have. Right, he 1114 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 4: wouldn't have went to Charlotte. He would have stayed right there. 1115 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 4: You feel I'm saying, And that's me. You're gonna get 1116 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 4: the real just how y'all all the small y'all, Yah, yeah, 1117 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 4: the real. 1118 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 5: See it's not funny he say that, bro, because I 1119 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 5: know the type of person Tony is. You know what 1120 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 5: I'm saying, great player, gonna go down the Hall of Fame. 1121 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 5: But he's very selfish. He's been selfish. We would have 1122 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 5: had more championships and more success if it wasn't for 1123 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 5: him being so selfish. But he was told as the 1124 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 5: sixteen seventy year in France that he was this. He 1125 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 5: come to the NBA starts as a nineteen year old, 1126 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 5: and you know what I'm saying, But he had a 1127 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 5: rude awaken him because once we got to the playoffs, 1128 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,240 Speaker 5: it was Stephan Marlberry. 1129 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: It was he's a kid. 1130 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 5: He couldn't handle them, so we had to pay Speedy Claxton. 1131 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 5: So I know the real Tony. You know what I'm saying. 1132 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 5: He can fool everybody else, but he is one of 1133 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 5: the most selfish players I've ever played with. 1134 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: And I'm just they ain't got nothing to do with 1135 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: what he's saying, is what I'm saying. 1136 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 5: He's one of the most selfish players I've ever played with, 1137 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 5: bro because it's all about him, And I don't know 1138 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 5: how he made it in that system so long, you 1139 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, because that's a system for everybody 1140 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 5: that that they want. They want everybody to yeah to 1141 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 5: everybody sh But at the same time, I don't know 1142 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 5: how he waited that long because Genobili was totally different 1143 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 5: as far as a teammate. 1144 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: That's definitely one of the best teammates I loved in 1145 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: my life. 1146 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 2: I love money, you know what I'm saying. So it's 1147 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,479 Speaker 2: like to pick up for my second year taking that job. 1148 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 2: Pop told us. So now it's like I see everything. 1149 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: I observe. 1150 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 4: I'll watch everything, like even now like I watch there 1151 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 4: would be I'll watch a game and I won't even 1152 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 4: look at the Maid dunk the Maid three. I look 1153 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 4: at the bench to see who's clapping and who's sitting 1154 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 4: there looking mad, Like that's the type of stuff I 1155 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 4: look at because. 1156 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 2: I want to see, Like you a team guy, you 1157 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 2: want you feel what I'm saying. Not for real, bro, Like, 1158 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: So it's like my second year. Now I'm doing this. 1159 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 4: I make all defensive team, youngest since Kobe rest in 1160 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 4: piece of Kobe. Uh. Now it's like it's on the popping. 1161 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 4: So now I'm like I got a taste of it. 1162 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 4: Like now I'm starting. I get to go into the 1163 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,479 Speaker 4: summer healthy. I know I'm coming back starting, ain't looking, 1164 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 4: ain't looking over my shoulders. So now I'm about to 1165 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 4: go to your three. I get hurt, come back, get hurt. 1166 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 4: Preseason and that was the year, like every scout, every coach, 1167 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 4: that was the year we got well, that was year 1168 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 4: we got Tomorrow. We had themar They'll all tell you 1169 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 4: who looked like the best player training camp. I came 1170 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 4: back with like, yeah, yeah, I ain't here to step 1171 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 4: on those toes, none of that. 1172 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: But I'm here to be me. 1173 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 4: I'm here to be me. And now I got that confidence. 1174 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 4: And you guys know, when you get that confidence in 1175 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 4: this league, it's over. 1176 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: It's over. 1177 00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 2: It's over. 1178 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 4: Then I feel like I got it, Like I'm like, yeah, 1179 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 4: I got it, because now they're calling people. I got 1180 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 4: people back home calling I ain't even know, knew this 1181 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 4: certain person in the organization, Like, you know, they say 1182 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 4: you look like a monster, and training can they say 1183 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 4: you look like a monster. You made a statement. So 1184 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:21,879 Speaker 4: now it's like, yeah, I'm ready get hurt. Damn one 1185 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 4: thing I could say about them. They see me in 1186 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 4: the gym eleven months straight, six days a week, and 1187 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 4: they did reward me, you know what I'm saying. 1188 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: So it's like. 1189 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 4: It's it's if he is this is that, But it's 1190 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 4: like I could always love him for that, appreciate them 1191 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 4: for that. It ain't about the money. But it's like, bro, 1192 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 4: you know you get hurt, like you know what I mean. 1193 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 4: So it's like you go on to year four. I'm 1194 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 4: back playing year five and back playing. But now they 1195 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 4: got they drafting people. They really got me competing, Like 1196 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 4: they really got me competing with Derek White, because now 1197 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 4: they draft Dereck White and he played well in the 1198 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 4: playoffs the year I was hurt. 1199 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 2: So now they're like, damn, should we make Derek the 1200 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 2: point guard or dejonte? 1201 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: You know? 1202 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 4: But they they can't just say that because now they 1203 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 4: paid me that summer, you know, and he was only 1204 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 4: what his first year or whatever second year, but they 1205 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 4: really got us competing. And I feel like I love Pop, 1206 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 4: but it's like I feel like he cited with Derek 1207 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 4: more than me because I wasn't a yes man, not 1208 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 4: saying Derek's none of that, you know what I'm saying. 1209 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 2: I love Derek, great teammate. We talked to this day 1210 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 2: and we'll get late, we'll get down to that later. 1211 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 4: But it's like I feel like he sided with him 1212 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 4: because you couldn't play with me like pop, you know, Pop, 1213 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 4: Like you couldn't rob rob with me and be disrespectful 1214 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 4: like if I ain't really do nothing now if I 1215 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 4: like did something wrong, stop turning them up, fucking ball over. 1216 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 4: Your teammate was open, like I'm cool with that, but 1217 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 4: getting personal, like you can't play with me like. 1218 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 2: That because I'm a at the end of the day, bro, 1219 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 2: you know. And then I got a daughter, like, so. 1220 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to get a coach in LA for that. 1221 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 3: I got traded as soon as the trade deadline happened 1222 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 3: twelve oh two. I was out of there because he 1223 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 3: just you could talk shit to me and yell at 1224 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 3: me here for bad play, but don't disrespect me as 1225 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 3: a man. 1226 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 4: As a man, don't play that game, because are you 1227 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 4: gonna do that outside of these cameras, in these facilities. 1228 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 5: And the situation Pop puts you in, he know how 1229 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 5: you're gonna respond. Before he put you in that situation. 1230 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: He did it to me. 1231 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 5: He asked me to say that Genoble and Danny Green 1232 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 5: was better than me right before the playoffs started, because 1233 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 5: he knew I was gonna blow up. 1234 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I walked up, went off on the walked. 1235 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 5: Up as I'm before he even asked me that Tracey 1236 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 5: McGrady at yeah, he had landed the same day before 1237 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 5: he even asked me. So he knew what he was 1238 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 5: doing and he knew I was gonna respond like that. 1239 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 5: So Poppa is very smart, you know what I'm saying. 1240 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 5: But they do their hardwork and they expect the worst 1241 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 5: from certain players, like when they get guys like us 1242 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 5: on the team. But in all actuality, the ownership has 1243 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 5: been in the meet, in the media, in the news 1244 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 5: for more ship than any players ever played there. 1245 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 2: You need that. 1246 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 3: Kawhi as a teammate. We don't get to see much 1247 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,879 Speaker 3: of that. He had him as a young fella. 1248 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: He was a vet to you. Speak to what Kawhi 1249 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: is like as I just off the court, cool locker 1250 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: room dude, and a mentor to you, man. 1251 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 2: Kawhi dope. 1252 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 4: And the thing I love about him is like when 1253 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 4: you when you comfortable in your own skin, you gonna 1254 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 4: get way more love like facts then you even expect, 1255 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And for Kawhi, he's like, Bro, 1256 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,919 Speaker 4: I want to be on the internet. Bro, I don't 1257 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 4: want to be in the media like I want to 1258 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 4: live my life. 1259 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: I want hoop. 1260 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 4: I want to hoop that motherfucker be in the gym, 1261 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. So it's like he's like, 1262 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 4: I want to hoop. Be in my family, my boys 1263 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 4: like that shit, but I want to hoop, you know 1264 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 4: what I mean. So for Kawhi, it was like he's 1265 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 4: really part of the reason why, Like I made that 1266 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 4: defensive team second year, Like he came to me, He's like, bro, 1267 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 4: don't worry about trying to get fifteen twenty points. He's like, 1268 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 4: go make the all defensive team. He told me that 1269 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 4: your two training camp. He's like, go make the all 1270 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 4: defensive team. I guarantee you if you make that, Now 1271 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 4: you get on the court. Like you said, defense, get 1272 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 4: you on the court, especially in San Antonio. So he's like, 1273 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 4: go make that defensive team. Now you stamp yourself. He 1274 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 4: could play d So now they got to have you 1275 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 4: on the floor. So if you're on the floor, your 1276 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 4: ass is gonna. 1277 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 2: Have to be able to play offense too, you know 1278 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 1279 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 4: So it's like I took that, and I just other 1280 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 4: than that, I took watching him show up every day 1281 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 4: off days, game days, practices, before all of that, putting 1282 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 4: in work twenty twenty thirty minutes. It's sharpened over there, 1283 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 4: getting right after we practice back on the court like 1284 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 4: that's all he wanted to do. That's all he wanted 1285 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 4: to do. So for me, I'm like, damn, like this 1286 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 4: motherfucker finals MVP. I already won the finals, Dvison player 1287 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 4: of your All Star, you know, made money all that, like, 1288 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,439 Speaker 4: but he's in the gym like he don't got none 1289 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 4: of that, Like he's trying to please these dudes like 1290 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 4: to make it, to make the team. 1291 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 2: So I'm like, bro, I got no excuse. Bro, I 1292 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 2: already love a game though, I don't need that to 1293 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 2: like motivate me. 1294 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 4: But that just put in a whole different perspective for me, 1295 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 4: Like yeah, like you know what I'm saying. 1296 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 2: You see it, and that's that's That's what it was 1297 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 2: with him. We talked to this day. We laughed about 1298 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: all type of ship, joke about all type of ship. 1299 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: We made the West Conference finals. 1300 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 5: But soon as pop scene, I say, Jack, hold up 1301 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 5: after practice. 1302 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: Got to get him out of there. You gotta get. 1303 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 3: So, I mean, obviously, you you told us your upbringing 1304 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 3: the ups, the downs, the juvenile detention centers, the dead homies, 1305 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 3: the homies in prison. Twenty nineteen, you signed a sixty 1306 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 3: four million dollar contract chain to me, that's just the beginning, 1307 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 3: because you're gonna get the one hundred plus next up. 1308 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,919 Speaker 1: But what did that mean to you? Knowing what you've 1309 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: been through up to that point? Man? 1310 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 2: You come from, you come from just the struggle. You 1311 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 2: come from the hood. 1312 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 5: Man. 1313 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 2: They say money don't mean nothing, but Bro, that should 1314 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 2: mean something. That shuit means a lot where I come from. 1315 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 2: You feel I'm saying, y'all can relate, Bro, Like are 1316 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 2: you feel me? 1317 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: Like? 1318 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: I remember eating top running four months straight and. 1319 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 5: Putting hot dogs in it one day, all that sent 1320 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 5: it the next day, all the different meals, a ram, 1321 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 5: the noodles. 1322 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,439 Speaker 1: They don't know nothing about that, you know what I'm saying. 1323 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 4: They don't know Like we really competing in the house 1324 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 4: who make the best noodles? Chicken, the beef man, we 1325 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 4: had every kind shrimp, beef, chicken. 1326 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1327 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, with chicken out hell yeah. 1328 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 1: But for me, Bro, it was it was like. 1329 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 4: It was like, damn, this shit is real. Like I'm 1330 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 4: still like tripping out where I'm at. It's not like 1331 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 4: I can continue to say I say this. Everybody around me. 1332 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 4: No money, fame, success, it don't mean nothing to me. Bro, 1333 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 4: it can't move me to make me feel like I'm 1334 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 4: better than you. 1335 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 2: I'm better than you. 1336 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 4: We all equal, you know what I'm saying. Obviously some 1337 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 4: got more than others. That's life, bro, you know what 1338 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying. But for me, when I signed the deal, 1339 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 4: it was like when the process is going, like I 1340 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 4: had my brothers with me because that was the year 1341 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 4: I was rehabbing, so like I had a couple of 1342 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 4: my brothers with me and just always engaged with my 1343 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 4: family everybody, And I think just when it happened, it 1344 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 4: shocked everybody, you know what I mean, because, like I said, 1345 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 4: everybody know where I come from, what I did, like 1346 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 4: what I had to do for money, Like so it's like, 1347 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 4: damn he legal, Damn he did that, Like you feel 1348 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 4: me Like, So for me, it's like I get to 1349 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 4: take care of my people and take care of my 1350 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 4: people as I'm. 1351 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 2: Maturing and growing. 1352 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 4: It's always not hunt here's one hundred thousand, here's fifty thousand, 1353 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 4: there's ten thousand. 1354 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,919 Speaker 2: It's not always that, you know what I'm saying. 1355 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 4: Putting them in rooms with certain people, being able for 1356 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 4: them to call me if they got questions, if I 1357 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 4: don't know the answer. We're gonna go get the answer, 1358 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So for me, it just 1359 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 4: was a blessing, bro like it Obviously it made our 1360 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 4: life better, you feel me. It made our life better, 1361 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 4: not just me. It made our life better knowing that 1362 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, we got each other. 1363 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 4: But God put me in this situation. I got us 1364 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 4: because I know how to handle it. Though you feel me, 1365 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 4: you was made for Yeah, I know how to handle it. 1366 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, you see dudes go broke, 1367 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 4: Dudes blow money, Like I was dealing with money in 1368 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 4: the hood, so I know how to deal with money. Obviously, 1369 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 4: not no millions you feel I'm saying, But I know. 1370 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 2: How to deal with money. 1371 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Bro. 1372 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 2: You feel me, We was playing with that, you know 1373 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's like this is just another level. 1374 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 4: But when you know the bigger picture, in me, I 1375 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 4: love basketball, So it's like knowing that all this come 1376 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 4: with basketball, it only turned me up even more. 1377 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 2: It made me more hungry, you know. 1378 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Like, what's next? Go get more, you 1379 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Go get bigg you know all that. 1380 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 4: So it's like, at the end of the day, I 1381 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 4: believe in God. I'm thankful, I'm grateful, but I also 1382 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 4: like I believe that it was written. Bro, Like I 1383 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 4: believe it was written because I watched everybody. I watched 1384 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 4: all my peoples. We ain't had nobody successful just to 1385 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 4: go to college. Bro, you feel mean, like like he. 1386 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Was really excited when he was explaining in one year, 1387 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 1: like I made it. That was dope. 1388 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 2: That was dope, dope. So it's like, you know, signing 1389 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 2: that it was it was a blessing, bro. 1390 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 4: You know, obviously, start learning more on the business side now, 1391 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 4: you know, learn about the investments all that stuff. So 1392 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 4: you know, now it's just for me, Bro, It's like, 1393 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 4: continue to be a great person, but continue to work 1394 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 4: and get your all out of it, Like, don't be 1395 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 4: that guy, Like damn, I wish I would have did this. 1396 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 2: I would have did that when I retired. 1397 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: You feel me. 1398 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 4: So I'm trying to get everything out of it. I'm 1399 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 4: one hundred and ten percent invested in New Balance. 1400 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: What was that process like? And how's it been? Another 1401 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 1: check man? 1402 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 4: That's the reason why with them, Like obviously you know, 1403 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 4: like we all grew up Jordan, we want Jays, we 1404 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 4: want Jay want we want the. 1405 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 2: Max is the forces. Like. 1406 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,959 Speaker 4: So it's like I was with Nike my first first 1407 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 4: three years and then obviously that year three I got hurt, 1408 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 4: and Nike they offered me something but nothing. 1409 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 2: You all know how they get down if you're not 1410 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 2: one of the guys. 1411 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 4: You feel me, get new balanced, New Balance. Like I 1412 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 4: was with Nike and they was talking to Risk like, man, 1413 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 4: we like him. We don't know his story, but the 1414 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 4: things we hear and what we see how you carry himself, 1415 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 4: Like we want that because at the point they got Kawhi, 1416 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 4: they just got Kawhi and obviously you know Kauhi my dog, Like, 1417 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 4: so I'm talking to him through that process like you 1418 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 4: rocking New Balance? They cool da, Like I'm not worrying 1419 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 4: about oh how I'm gonna look, bro, I got swagged, 1420 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 1421 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it together. 1422 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: It ain't you feel me? 1423 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 4: So it's like yeah, yeah, you know a lot of 1424 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 4: people gonna be like man, that shit uglier or this 1425 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 4: or that, like nah, I ain't wearing that, Like we're 1426 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 4: gonna figure it out. 1427 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel me, so New Balance. I'm loyal, bro. 1428 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 4: They was loyal to me, and they weren't even paying 1429 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 4: me a dollar or sending me no merch like they 1430 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 4: was loyal. They was showing me that they wanted me. 1431 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Why it was hurt. 1432 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 2: They're like, we want you to represent our brand, like 1433 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 2: we want you. 1434 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 4: To be a big part of it like Kawhi and 1435 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 4: for me, like just the way they was reaching out, 1436 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 4: reaching out, reaching out, then start sending gear, sending gear 1437 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 4: like told Rich like, Bro, I want to go a 1438 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 4: new Balance. 1439 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 2: Bro. 1440 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I want to be different. 1441 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to follow no trends and never been 1442 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 4: the guy to follow no trends, no ways. I'm like, 1443 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 4: we're gonna turn them balance up. I signed with New Balance, 1444 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 4: the whole city and New Balance, wholehood and New Balance. 1445 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 4: You feel me, my whole family, New Balance. Now I'm 1446 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 4: seeing people everywhere I go. I see New Balance, you 1447 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like at the end 1448 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 4: of the day, Bro. 1449 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: They got some dope, especially all the way, Yeah. 1450 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 4: They got some dope shit, but they also got some 1451 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 4: like the designers that they got came from Nike, Adidas, 1452 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 4: all the mother you know, the brands and just putting 1453 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 4: it together. 1454 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, first time All Star. 1455 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: What did that mean to you? 1456 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 2: Unbelievable? I know that felt great, Bro, it was unbelievable. Bro, 1457 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 2: even though like I feel like because I think we 1458 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 2: was in like the ninth place, ninth place, I believe, 1459 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 2: So I feel like I should have got voted in 1460 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 2: like when it happened, and I didn't get like voted in. 1461 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 4: Like I was at the house, like my family hot. 1462 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 4: You already know how them households get like they hot 1463 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 4: because they announcing it. You know, some family they all 1464 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 4: came out to San Antonio and we all I just 1465 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 4: got back. 1466 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 2: I just got back home, and I just. 1467 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 4: Remember, like they ain't call my name, has nothing nothing 1468 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 4: the reserves, they ain't call my name. 1469 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Bro. 1470 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 2: I was hot. I was hot. My family was hot. 1471 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 4: Like I see I see my brothers crying like they hot, 1472 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 4: like you know, like they trying to figure it out. 1473 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, it ain't nothing. 1474 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 4: You know, we're gonna We're gonna get there, like because 1475 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 4: God got us, you feel me, but he got me, 1476 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 4: like I work hard, great person. So it's like it's 1477 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 4: bound happened, Bro, sooner or later. I thinks a couple 1478 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 4: of days go by. Obviously you had guys hurt. I 1479 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 4: go to the gym, and you know how Pop is 1480 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 4: Pop smart, he already know I'm in. They vote, they 1481 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 4: got me in, Adam Silver put me in. But it's 1482 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 4: I have no clue. I'm just going to practice, go 1483 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 4: to practice. After I'll leave, Pops like I have a 1484 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 4: great day. 1485 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 1: Da da da dah. 1486 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 2: I head home. 1487 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 4: The family still there, and he just, uh, he just 1488 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 4: randomly called me like can you uh can you come 1489 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 4: back to the facility. I'm like for what, Like I'm 1490 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 4: gonna see you tomorrow, Like what you need me for 1491 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 4: the facility for He's like, man, just come to the facility. 1492 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 2: I get to the facility, I go solo. 1493 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 4: As soon as I walk in the door, like congratulations, 1494 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 4: all start bro. 1495 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 2: It's like I'm like, I'm like, wait a minute. 1496 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 1: What. 1497 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 4: Then obviously it starts blowing up the the text message 1498 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 4: to cause all that. 1499 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 2: I start breaking down, crying, bro, Bro. 1500 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 4: I start breaking down crying, bro, Like I'm like this 1501 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 4: this shit crazy, Bro Like nah, this ain't true, bro 1502 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 4: an all star, this sh it ain't true, bro, you 1503 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 4: know what I mean? 1504 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: So I go home. 1505 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 2: Obviously, I hug all them guys. 1506 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 4: I hug all of them the staff, everybody coaches, everybody 1507 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 4: front office. And as soon as I get home, bro, 1508 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 4: whole family crying. 1509 01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Bro, the whole they already knew it, you. 1510 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 4: Or they already knew because they started getting out. They 1511 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 4: just knew I was leaving to go to the gym. 1512 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 4: So I walk in the door, I walk in my house. 1513 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 4: Everybody crying. Bro Like, but it's like tears of joy. 1514 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 4: Like that motherfucker used to be in the rain at 1515 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 4: five years old by himself. I was in the snow 1516 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 4: by myself, no backboard, just the rim. I was in 1517 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,639 Speaker 4: the house getting the laundry, you know what I'm saying, 1518 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 4: all that, getting the hangers, pull them on the door, 1519 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 1520 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 2: All that, And that's what you've seen, like and from 1521 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 2: all my. 1522 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 4: Family, and I think what really made it hit difference 1523 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 4: is we lost my sister not too long from that. 1524 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 2: My sister was killed like months before that, and. 1525 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 4: Our family was kind of in a you know, like 1526 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 4: a head down, like sad man, like just a revenge mode, 1527 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying, Like because she was killed, 1528 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, by her boyfriend. So it's 1529 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 4: like brought some positive, some positive to to the family. 1530 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 2: Again. They're like, reborn this, you know what I mean? 1531 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 1: And it just was. 1532 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. 1533 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 1: Bro. 1534 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 4: Like even still like I still feel like I ain't 1535 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 4: did none of it. I still want to get better. 1536 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 4: I still want my coaches people to criticize me to 1537 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 4: get better, to be better, like so I can make 1538 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 4: it again, make it again, you know. But it's like 1539 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 4: it's a blessing, broen you able to do that? Like 1540 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,560 Speaker 4: obviously basketball sports team, you know what I mean. Like, 1541 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 4: obviously we play basketball, so it's a team game. You 1542 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 4: can't win without the team. But you got your individual things. 1543 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 2: You feel. 1544 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 1: Me it's say you was a top twenty four player 1545 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 1: in the league that year. 1546 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1547 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 4: That's unbelievable. Bro, you feel unbelievable. That's unbelievable. So it's 1548 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 4: like that I'll never go over my head, you know, 1549 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 4: forever gonna be be be thankful for that, bro. 1550 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 2: And for me, it's like, get gotta get you to 1551 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 2: get back. You know you don't want to be no 1552 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 2: one here, wonder I gotta get back. 1553 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 3: Very humble, grounded family basketball. Outside of everything you told 1554 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 3: us so far, who were you off the court? 1555 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: What do you like to do. I mean, obviously fatherhood 1556 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 1: is big for you, but what do you like to 1557 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 1: do just in your spare time? Bro? 1558 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 2: For me, I like bowling, bowling. I love bowling. I 1559 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 2: love bowling. 1560 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 1: It'd be nice. 1561 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 4: I'd be like, bal let's go bowling. Already, wavery, you know, 1562 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 4: let's go bowling. It's raredmly go bowling. Because for me, 1563 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 4: it's like I grew up in parties, bros and clubs 1564 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 4: at thirteen. I was in twenty one over clubs thirteen, 1565 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 4: fourteen years old, you know what I'm saying. So it's 1566 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 4: like to make it to where I'm at now, I 1567 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 4: have no interest in that. Like a lot of these dudes, 1568 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 4: like older dudes, young dudes, it's new to them. They 1569 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 4: just now being able to get a taste of it 1570 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 4: off the porch lake. I was already doing that, you 1571 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying. I was already dealing with a woman. 1572 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 4: I was already you know what I'm saying. I was 1573 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 4: already in clubs everything, have money, cars, everything, Bro. So 1574 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 4: it's like, now I'm at this point in my life, 1575 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 4: it's like it's just basketball for me. But also because 1576 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,920 Speaker 4: I already did so much in the early stage, I 1577 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 4: have no interest to do things that already done. 1578 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:12,559 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. 1579 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 4: So a lot of people, like my brothers, even when 1580 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 4: I was a San Antonio, they used to tell them 1581 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 4: guys like man, get them out the gym, like, tell 1582 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 4: them to go take a vacation, tell them to go, 1583 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, do something else. 1584 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 2: Get basketball off of his mind. 1585 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,600 Speaker 4: But it's like if you ain't grow up like me, 1586 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like you can't relate to me, 1587 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 4: like you don't understand where I'm at, where I'm at. 1588 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 4: And also I know how I was judged in that 1589 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,680 Speaker 4: draft from the things that I did or I was 1590 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 4: around as a kid, and I don't want that to 1591 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 4: be the reason that, you know, they boot me up 1592 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 4: out of here. 1593 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 2: And I feel like my chance is knowing they know 1594 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 2: my story. I feel like my chances ain't. 1595 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Like get a lot of fuck ups. 1596 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 2: I feel like I only got one. 1597 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 4: Soon as I make that one, it's curtains, it's over 1598 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 4: Seattle or wherever you're going, you know what I'm saying. 1599 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 4: So for me, like, bro, it's really fatherhood, my family. 1600 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 4: I like bowling, but I really be inside, bro, like 1601 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 4: I really be inside and I have fun doing it, though, 1602 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 4: and I try to tell like my brothers, even dudes, 1603 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 4: I mean to lead, bro, I try to tell them 1604 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 4: cause they even my teammates from your want of San 1605 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 4: Antonio to year seven now in Atlanta, they see our 1606 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 4: own party brong drink on smoke and they see that 1607 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,680 Speaker 4: and they're like, bro, why Like you know what I'm saying, like, 1608 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 4: go have fun? You are you know what I'm saying. 1609 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 4: But I'm having fun. And I try to tell them, like, 1610 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 4: don't let me affect what you do, bro, regardless, I'm 1611 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 4: be good regardless, but I'm comfortable who I am. I 1612 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 4: have fun sitting at home watching six games at a 1613 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 4: time with my daughter, my family, my girl, on FaceTime 1614 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,680 Speaker 4: with my family, you know what I mean? Like I 1615 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 4: have fun doing that, answering prison calls over and over, 1616 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 4: chopping over with them. That's my life right now. When 1617 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 4: I'm done, I'll probably start doing more. But right now 1618 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 4: I just know for like it's it's messed up. That 1619 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 4: is this way that I got to think like this, 1620 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 4: But it's like I feel like I go to the 1621 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 4: club or something, You're not about to play with me, 1622 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying. 1623 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 1: So it's like in a position. 1624 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 2: Why I put myself in that situation, bro? That position? 1625 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,719 Speaker 2: Why I could just be at home. 1626 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 1: Bro, because they do a lot of they're doing a 1627 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of playing outside. 1628 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 4: They're doing a lot of playing, you know what I'm saying. 1629 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 4: And we don't play like that. It's hard to stay 1630 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 4: out the way. It's hard to stay out the way, bro, 1631 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like for me, 1632 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:31,759 Speaker 4: I'm just focused. 1633 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 1: I know what I want. You know what I mean. 1634 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 2: But also, like I said, I don't I don't want 1635 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 2: to be on the headlines for no negativity. Bro. 1636 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Too hard. 1637 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 2: I work too hard, bro. And I know you take 1638 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,679 Speaker 2: away me. You take away a lot of village. 1639 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,200 Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, you feel me. 1640 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 2: You take away a village, a lot of people. You 1641 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 2: feel me. So it's like I'm cool, Bro, I like chilling. 1642 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 2: I really be with the kids for real. 1643 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 5: That that that that that says a lot about you 1644 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,320 Speaker 5: and how how important your family and your village is 1645 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 5: to you. Because a lot of people can be selfish. 1646 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 5: I want to do this, it is my life. I 1647 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 5: want to do this and not care about the people 1648 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 5: that's dependent on them. 1649 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A lot of people like that. 1650 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1651 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 3: You spoke to Rich's loyalty and the relationship you've built 1652 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 3: with him. Have you been able to build a relationship 1653 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 3: with Bron knowing that that's obviously family as well? 1654 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 2: Man, I talk to him all the time. For me, 1655 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 2: I just he I mean, like we talk who But 1656 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 2: more so like knowing that that was my. 1657 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 4: Favorite player growing up, Like Bron was my favorite because 1658 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 4: I love to play the game that way. Like obviously 1659 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,560 Speaker 4: I grew up watching Ai Kobe them dudes, is like 1660 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to eat buckets. Yeah, fuck all that, I'm 1661 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 4: going to get buckets blank. But with Bron, Broun's doing everything. 1662 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 4: That's why you look up. 1663 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 2: You look up after game. It's like he got thirty. 1664 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 4: One, nine and ten, Like he did everything, you know 1665 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that was my favorite player from 1666 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,639 Speaker 4: when he first got to the league, when he first 1667 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,639 Speaker 4: year rookie year. I remember, I'm like, that's my favorite player. 1668 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 4: He played a game the right way and obviously he 1669 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 4: was special. He's still special, right, you feel me? So 1670 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,560 Speaker 4: it was like he invited me to his camp. I 1671 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 4: think I was what sixteen seventeen, right when I start 1672 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 4: blowing up. I think it became like a top thirty 1673 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,560 Speaker 4: recruit at the time. So now I'm going all the 1674 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 4: All American camps and he invited me to. It was 1675 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,920 Speaker 4: like twenty players, and I was want of the guys 1676 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 4: to go. And then we on the team with each other, 1677 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 4: and obviously, you know, Maul told him about me and 1678 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,560 Speaker 4: all that, and uh, we was able to have conversations 1679 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,679 Speaker 4: at his camp, and then obviously I signed with Rich 1680 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 4: and Clutch and that just made us tighter. And it's 1681 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 4: like now, Bro, like I know his love's genuine, like 1682 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,719 Speaker 4: when I go around him, like you good that hug 1683 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 4: that you know, I love you, little bro. But more 1684 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 4: he be checking on me too though, like happy Holidays 1685 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,160 Speaker 4: and you know, seeing them play with my daughter like 1686 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,160 Speaker 4: all the kids everything like and just to know that 1687 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 4: to have a great person like that, not just basketball 1688 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 4: like person Louis he's doing. He's a great person, but 1689 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,639 Speaker 4: Louie's doing off the floor. Like like, Bro got a school. 1690 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,639 Speaker 4: He have a school. I think that's the biggest flex 1691 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 4: more than anything else. He has a school. And that 1692 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:20,880 Speaker 4: ain't either that ain't you know. 1693 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, especially being African American. 1694 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 1: Bro, it ain't easy. 1695 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 4: So for me, like when I tell you the money, 1696 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 4: the fame and all that championships, Like I look at 1697 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 4: him as like, Bro, he have a school because that's 1698 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 4: something that like I would want to do because I 1699 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,519 Speaker 4: speak who you are as a person and what you 1700 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 4: really care about, you know what I mean? 1701 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 2: So the relationships thpe, Bro, you're. 1702 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:43,600 Speaker 1: A great one. Bro. 1703 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 5: What's one player that's musty TV for you to write? 1704 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 5: Now when you're watching games at home? One player? 1705 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 2: May y'all know who Jay? 1706 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: He? 1707 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 4: Crazy? He crazy? He crazy? Yeah he is, Bro, He 1708 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 4: a motherfucker. He's musty TV. 1709 01:16:59,479 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 2: For sure. 1710 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 1: I love it. 1711 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 2: I know, I know I love it to be everybody. 1712 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 4: If it ain't, I don't know who is what you're watching, 1713 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 4: what you're watching, what player bring the best out you? 1714 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 2: I think I feel like everybody because now I'm getting 1715 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,720 Speaker 2: in that and you. 1716 01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 1: Got you got that? So you want to kill everybody? 1717 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that attitude. 1718 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 4: But like even now, like being in Atlanta, Bro, I'm 1719 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 4: still trying to figure out, Like you know, it's a 1720 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,479 Speaker 4: it's a new role, it's a new situation, it's a 1721 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,320 Speaker 4: new team. So now I'm like I'm trying to figure 1722 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 4: it out like you know what I'm saying. But for me, 1723 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 4: it's like I want to destroy everybody. I want to 1724 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,160 Speaker 4: take the ball from you number one, So you better 1725 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,439 Speaker 4: call that screen. You know what I'm saying, Like that's 1726 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 4: just my mentality, Like I want to get the best 1727 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 4: of you on both ends, but more so is everybody 1728 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,680 Speaker 4: because like I said, you want to play the best, Bro, 1729 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 4: you don't. You don't want nothing easy, you knowe what 1730 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So every night like you got dudes, the 1731 01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 4: league is so crazy now. Who look at Houston? Yeah, 1732 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 4: them up with Kevin and Jalen. They could both get 1733 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:04,679 Speaker 4: thirty years. 1734 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 1: The record ain't shit, but they could play. 1735 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. But all they need is some 1736 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,759 Speaker 4: veterans and you know, right, y'all know what they need, Jabari. 1737 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 4: They just need the right But I'll be trying to 1738 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 4: tell people because a lot of people like you lose 1739 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,720 Speaker 4: the you lose one of them younger teams that's you know, 1740 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 4: not mature or got that experience, Like bro, the league 1741 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,560 Speaker 4: is at that it's that talented. You could lose to 1742 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,519 Speaker 4: a team that got eleven wins or the team like 1743 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 4: Boston with thirty wins. You could lose any given night 1744 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 4: night and ain't know they know, Oh you're about to 1745 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,800 Speaker 4: blow these guys out by thirty forty and the bench 1746 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,719 Speaker 4: about to be able to play the last three four minutes. 1747 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 2: It ain't like that no more. 1748 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Bro, You know what I mean, talent. 1749 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, I love, I love playing 1750 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 4: against everybody, man, I love I love watching the game, 1751 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 4: and just love competing with the best. 1752 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 5: We were kind of in the area where we started 1753 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,559 Speaker 5: the two way player because we was guys that put 1754 01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 5: so much pride in playing defense. We talked about you 1755 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 5: getting it from San Antonio. But then again I would 1756 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 5: say the same thing. But one thing I can't give 1757 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 5: them credit for is I cared about stopping the man 1758 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 5: that I'm guarding. 1759 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 2: That's not no credit to them for that, No credit 1760 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 2: to zero. 1761 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 5: And it's not a lot of that in the league 1762 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 5: right now. Na, What is it in you that makes 1763 01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,679 Speaker 5: you take pride and defense? Because it's a scoring league 1764 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,880 Speaker 5: right now, they want buckets. That's when very pride in defense. 1765 01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 5: What is that in you that's making you different than 1766 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:30,720 Speaker 5: a lot of guys in league right now? 1767 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 4: Growing up playing with the older guys, being five years old, 1768 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 4: playing with My uncle's fifteen, seventeen eighteen, and we're playing 1769 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 4: twenty one. 1770 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 2: The only way you get the balls you get a stop. 1771 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 4: Better take the ball, you better get a stop, you 1772 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,040 Speaker 4: better get a rebound. I'm five years old, bro, Yeah, 1773 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,839 Speaker 4: five years old. These dudes is about to be eighteen 1774 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 4: years old. I used to get frustrated, like because it 1775 01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,640 Speaker 4: was times I didn't get the ball, and I used 1776 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,479 Speaker 4: to get so mad, like I. 1777 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 2: Gotta figure this shit out, you know what I'm saying. 1778 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 4: So that's where it comes for me, like playing with 1779 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 4: my uncles and then obviously start branching out to the 1780 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 4: neighborhoods and start playing, you know, in the neighborhood. 1781 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,120 Speaker 2: And now it's like I'm not getting. 1782 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 4: Embarrassed one you know what I'm saying, But damn shot, 1783 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 4: I know there's only one way for me to get 1784 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,560 Speaker 4: the ball, and that's to stop you. So it's a 1785 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,120 Speaker 4: pride thing, but it's a hard thing, dag. Like you know, 1786 01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 4: like some dudes just don't care. Yeah, they weren't taught that. 1787 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 4: They all they think offense is the end goal or 1788 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,360 Speaker 4: whatever defense wins championships, games, or however. 1789 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:35,840 Speaker 2: You want to put it. 1790 01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, so that's that's that's where 1791 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 4: it comes from me. I credit all my uncles and 1792 01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 4: all their friends, bro, Like they ain't give me nothing easy. 1793 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,400 Speaker 4: They made it hard on me from day one. When 1794 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 4: they seen that I was having the ball in my 1795 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 4: hand at one two years old, They're like, okay, yeah. 1796 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 1: By the time, you know what I mean, slapping that 1797 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 1: out your hand. Yeah. Yeah, So that's where that comes from. 1798 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,680 Speaker 5: Last season, you had a string of tweets in the 1799 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:05,080 Speaker 5: chef say he's top ten. Ever, I mean, I can't 1800 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 5: disagree with you, but to talk about that, by Steph's greatness, 1801 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:10,719 Speaker 5: he differed, bro, totally. 1802 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 1: Let me say this. I was never when they drafted him. 1803 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 1: I Jack didn't believe in Steph. 1804 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 5: So I was there, bro, and I'm similar to how 1805 01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,840 Speaker 5: you was when Santana go up. I'm damn there, thirty 1806 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 5: five thirty something. I don't want you, but I did 1807 01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 5: not know Steph. I'm gonna say it every time I 1808 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 5: get on. I'm sorry, but I had no idea who 1809 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 5: you was gonna be. Bro, No idea, Bro, But you know, 1810 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 5: it's so crazy. 1811 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,320 Speaker 4: When I seen him play that run he had at 1812 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,760 Speaker 4: Davidson the last year before he left, to the league. 1813 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 1: Bro. 1814 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 4: It was like I remember, like we could be going 1815 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,839 Speaker 4: to get food, or we could be just going somewhere. 1816 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, I gotta get to a TV. I gotta 1817 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:56,840 Speaker 4: watch this dude from Davison play. That's how crazy. That's 1818 01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,200 Speaker 4: how crazy it was when I seen that. I'm like, bro, 1819 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 4: he could shoot. 1820 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: Bro. 1821 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 4: I'm like, this dude if he gets to the league, 1822 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 4: because I think he was in the time where like 1823 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,560 Speaker 4: I wasn't into the mock drafts or I ain't know 1824 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 4: nothing about that. 1825 01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I just know, like, get to the league. 1826 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we get to the league though, Like it ain't easy, bro, 1827 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 4: but they be having you know the guys they hype up, 1828 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 4: and they weren't hyping him up. I feel like, but 1829 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 4: obviously he may put him unnoticed. And I'm like, Bro, 1830 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,679 Speaker 4: that dude get to the league and get opportunity, he's 1831 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:28,519 Speaker 4: gonna go crazy. 1832 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 2: I didn't say he was gonna be this. 1833 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 1: Nobody knew that. 1834 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 2: I didn't say none of this. 1835 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 4: I just seen the way he shot the basketball off 1836 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,040 Speaker 4: the dribble, you know what I mean, all pinned downs 1837 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,479 Speaker 4: like catch and shoot. 1838 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, that dude's gonna be somebody. 1839 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,680 Speaker 4: So it's like now, Bro, just seeing it, Like you 1840 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 4: got to credit his his hard work, his dedication, bro, 1841 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, Like when I hear 1842 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 4: about his workouts, like hearing stories from people, like they're 1843 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 4: no joke. 1844 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,160 Speaker 2: He is who he is for a reason. God blessed him. 1845 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 2: But he got that hard work working. 1846 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, that dedication, that focus, 1847 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 4: that drive, Like, Bro, I gotta keep going until I'm 1848 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 4: just done, you know what I mean. 1849 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 2: So for me, Bro, he's I mean what he got, 1850 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 2: he got it. I don't know what else he gotta do. 1851 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 1: He got it. 1852 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 4: And he changed the game though, Like he changed I 1853 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 4: feel like when you changed the game, not too many 1854 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 4: guys can say they did. 1855 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 1: A handful handful changed the game. He changed the game, 1856 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:28,720 Speaker 1: changed it on all levels. You know. 1857 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,640 Speaker 3: Obviously I coached my kids at a younger Look, they 1858 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 3: come in as soon as they put their shoes on, 1859 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 3: they start shooting from half court. 1860 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, what about just nah Dad? Nah? 1861 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:36,679 Speaker 2: Dad? 1862 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 1: Like that he changed the game for real. 1863 01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I remember the shooting 1864 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:47,519 Speaker 4: fade away Kobe. Now it's Steph shoot him half. Like 1865 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,400 Speaker 4: you said, he changed the game, not just men's women's too, 1866 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,320 Speaker 4: change everything. He changed the game. 1867 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:53,840 Speaker 1: He did absolutely. 1868 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 3: You know, quick hitters coming down the home stretch. First 1869 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,599 Speaker 3: thing to come to your mind. Let us know three 1870 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,360 Speaker 3: artists in your pre game rotation. 1871 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,840 Speaker 4: Mm hm three artists, bro. Uh, I really listened to 1872 01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 4: what I could relate to. I don't care about your 1873 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,640 Speaker 4: personal life. You make good music. You make good music, Bro, 1874 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,479 Speaker 4: I don't know you as a person. You feel me 1875 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 4: so if I could relate to it, and it gives 1876 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 4: me chills from ship I have seen dead been through, 1877 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,960 Speaker 4: like that's what's in my play with some substance. 1878 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel I'm saying, let. 1879 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,760 Speaker 1: Me get an example, but. 1880 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 2: The ones Dirk, Dirk's the one. He's the one. 1881 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 1: Bro. 1882 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,160 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, He's the one. 1883 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,360 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's you jam and constantly. 1884 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 2: He's the one. 1885 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 5: Bro. 1886 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel it like you give me chills, Bro, 1887 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,559 Speaker 2: you feel me give me chills. 1888 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 5: That's that's probably scarface for me. Scarf Mamas, Tupac Tupac 1889 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:43,800 Speaker 5: can't go. 1890 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 1: Players of all time Top Top five man, Man, Man, 1891 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 1: it's funny. 1892 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 3: I'm excited to hear your list because we just had 1893 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 3: Charles Barkley's list and it was good, but it was 1894 01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 3: it was he's older. 1895 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,080 Speaker 5: It was a dope list. Yeah, three of them got 1896 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 5: to come up out of three of his list. 1897 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 1: They got to come up out of there man, three 1898 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 1: of his list. 1899 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,240 Speaker 5: Three people on his list. They had eight teams when they. 1900 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:17,439 Speaker 1: Was playing his list ship. 1901 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't go I can't go back. 1902 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,240 Speaker 1: That far's no need to cook. 1903 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 4: I can't go cook Man. It don't gotta be like 1904 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:42,120 Speaker 4: card five man, Bron, M J. Kobe Shack. I'm throwing 1905 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 4: tim in there. 1906 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 1: Bro, that's my five. I have magic ten, but that's 1907 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,280 Speaker 1: my five. That's my five. We got the same five 1908 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,799 Speaker 1: that so is so so is with that order, Bron, 1909 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 1: M J. Cole For you, that's your top three? 1910 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you you didn't ask for you. 1911 01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,439 Speaker 1: No, I'm asking you. I'm asking you. You want to 1912 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,519 Speaker 1: do or the three? Just those three? Who who's your order? 1913 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,200 Speaker 1: Were those guys in your order? 1914 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,800 Speaker 3: I don't care if they're one, two or three in 1915 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,400 Speaker 3: the world, And those three were Who's one, Who's two? 1916 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,080 Speaker 1: Who's three? Bron, M J. 1917 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 5: Kobe Okay, Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I'm obviously round m J. 1918 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 1: Cole. 1919 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 2: Bron that he was a killer. He was bucket them. 1920 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 1: Three, them three one show or movie you could watch 1921 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,360 Speaker 1: on repeat. 1922 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 2: Martin Easy, come on, man, come on man, yeah, two 1923 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,800 Speaker 2: three in the morning. You know it's so you gotta 1924 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:50,760 Speaker 2: watch that. That's man too, little Rodscop. That's crazy, that's 1925 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,000 Speaker 2: crazy world. 1926 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh man. 1927 01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,640 Speaker 5: Any course our game to rewatching the past? Which one 1928 01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 5: would it be? Any game you could be courtside to 1929 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 5: games in the past, any pass game. MJ era, Cobe 1930 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 5: era early Brian Dathan Davidson, M. 1931 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:12,599 Speaker 2: Man. 1932 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 4: Any game I could be, it will have to be 1933 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,400 Speaker 4: Jordan bro It will have to be I think the 1934 01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 4: game versus Utah Flu game, the Flu. 1935 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,840 Speaker 5: Game and that one All sixty three in Boston. They 1936 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:29,600 Speaker 5: lost that game, rookie year right. 1937 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1938 01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 4: And the reason why I say MJ because and it 1939 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 4: hurts me bro that I didn't get to meet Kobe 1940 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 4: bro Like, and he invited me to his little Top 1941 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 4: twenty of young up and coming players before he passed 1942 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 4: to come to his camp. 1943 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,280 Speaker 2: That was when the first time I met him. 1944 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,960 Speaker 4: Because he retired when I got to the league twenty sixteen, 1945 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,760 Speaker 4: and that really hurt me, bro Like, you know what 1946 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,720 Speaker 4: I mean, his mentality, the way he carried himself. 1947 01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:58,120 Speaker 2: The way he played the game, like different. That was 1948 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 2: somebody that because I'm not big or I want to 1949 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 2: meet people like you know what I mean. If I 1950 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 2: meet you, I meet you. 1951 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 1952 01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 4: And I respect my elders, Bro, So you don't got 1953 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,120 Speaker 4: to be best player in the world. You could be 1954 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 4: on the side of the road, my elder. You feel me, 1955 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna respect you. But it's like Kobe was somebody that, 1956 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,760 Speaker 4: like I had to meet Bro, you know what I mean. 1957 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,680 Speaker 4: So like knowing what happened like that hurts me, you 1958 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 4: feel me. But I got to see Kobe play. I 1959 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,800 Speaker 4: got to see Bron play. I'm playing against Broun now, MJ. 1960 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,800 Speaker 4: I didn't get to see playing. So it's like all 1961 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,080 Speaker 4: you hear is the old heads. They're like, Bron your 1962 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:37,760 Speaker 4: number one man, you tripping, you tripping, and they say 1963 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 4: it passionate though you feel me, And it's like I 1964 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:41,840 Speaker 4: wanted to see it in person. 1965 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,200 Speaker 2: And that's why I said that game. 1966 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 5: You should have seen us. When we was going to 1967 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 5: interview Kobe, we were like two kids going. 1968 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,639 Speaker 1: That was my teammates, Like we was teammates. 1969 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 3: I've seen him all the time, but it was still 1970 01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 3: just that aura about him and the way he carried himself, 1971 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 3: in the way you felt like you learned something when 1972 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 3: you're just having a regular conversation with him. I mean, 1973 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 3: he sat us in his office before we start the interviewing. 1974 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,200 Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to be known for my 1975 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,200 Speaker 3: last twenty years. I'm like, nigga, you cold what you mean. 1976 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:08,360 Speaker 3: It's like, now, I want to be known for what 1977 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:09,920 Speaker 3: I'm about to do and look at this when I'm 1978 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,560 Speaker 3: writing this book and no, no, no. So it's just 1979 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,479 Speaker 3: that mentality. Just he applied it to all aspects of 1980 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,439 Speaker 3: his life. So it was it was special to see. 1981 01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,360 Speaker 5: That was my classmate and I was in awe every 1982 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 5: time I talked to him and seeing him, I was 1983 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 5: just like like, this is this nigga real? 1984 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:24,479 Speaker 1: His nigga real? 1985 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 4: So I get it, man, And I think that's what's 1986 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 4: crazy though, Like knowing like you just said, bro, like 1987 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,560 Speaker 4: youkvid like you can't right you feel me? But to 1988 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,560 Speaker 4: know that like he didn't get to do like we 1989 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,880 Speaker 4: give our all the basketball, especially him, like everything he 1990 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 4: gave his all. 1991 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Bro. 1992 01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,840 Speaker 4: He was away from his family more than you know 1993 01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, so to see him to start 1994 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 4: branching the you know, being with his daughters. 1995 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 1: You know, she want to. 1996 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 2: Hoop for real. 1997 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,400 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm about to coach you like and like you 1998 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 4: just said, doing other things like in the fact he 1999 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,600 Speaker 4: didn't get to do that, Like that's the type of 2000 01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,120 Speaker 4: stuff that that that messed with me. 2001 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:04,080 Speaker 3: Rest in peace, man, five dinner against that are. 2002 01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 4: Alive five dinner guess huh uhh Like I said, brown't 2003 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 4: really caring to meet people. 2004 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 1: But h jay z. 2005 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:15,240 Speaker 5: M J. 2006 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Uh should you gotta put cobD on there? Kobe? 2007 01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Kobe hm already have one bron so he 2008 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,240 Speaker 4: can't go and he can't come to this one. He 2009 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,400 Speaker 4: can't come to this one. Uh well, I say that, 2010 01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:37,040 Speaker 4: said jay z m J. Kobe Ai, I'm tripping Ai. 2011 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:38,200 Speaker 1: You get a chance to meet him. 2012 01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:39,840 Speaker 2: I met him three times. 2013 01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,679 Speaker 5: Put put put somebody in your list for your fifth 2014 01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 5: that's somebody that you admire that's dead and gone, that 2015 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,360 Speaker 5: you would like to get to know, that I get 2016 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:50,600 Speaker 5: to know. 2017 01:30:51,080 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 2: Uh mm hmm. Yeah, that's a tough one. There's so 2018 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:07,080 Speaker 2: many people, bro, that's a tough one. Mm hm. 2019 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,479 Speaker 1: Oh No, that one had always said for me. 2020 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:17,800 Speaker 5: I don't want to meet Marcus Garvin because of what 2021 01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,680 Speaker 5: he was. You know what I'm saying. He was one 2022 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,360 Speaker 5: of the first black men to start teaching financial literacy, 2023 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,760 Speaker 5: financial financial literacy and teach people how to get bank 2024 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,439 Speaker 5: accounts and involved with banks and try to get black 2025 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,120 Speaker 5: people to start their own banks and stuff like that. 2026 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 5: So that's somebody, That's what I mean. I'll give you 2027 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 5: an example of somebody like that. I've always wanted to meet. 2028 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:35,280 Speaker 5: Marcus Garby. 2029 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:42,400 Speaker 4: I think it's starting to obviously young Gage like always wondering, like, bro, 2030 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,200 Speaker 4: why is there Martin Luther King everywhere in every hood, 2031 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,920 Speaker 4: like every you know, like black area. Like, so I'll 2032 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:51,960 Speaker 4: probably say Martin Luther King. And I'm not saying that 2033 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,519 Speaker 4: because the MLK days here. But when I say, it's 2034 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:56,960 Speaker 4: a lot of people that I could have put in 2035 01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:58,720 Speaker 4: that fist, it was a lot of people because even 2036 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,759 Speaker 4: though it's four like those people I want to learn from, admire, 2037 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,640 Speaker 4: learn from, you know what I'm saying, good bad, But 2038 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 4: just to take it away from sports Martin Luther King, 2039 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,719 Speaker 4: just to understand that, you know, his message, he can't 2040 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 4: go wrong with that, you know what I mean. 2041 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: So I say, yeah, they definitely went wrong with that 2042 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,640 Speaker 1: new statue we got in Boston. I just see it. 2043 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,080 Speaker 1: It's crazy over. 2044 01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:29,200 Speaker 5: If you can see one guessarry out, if you can 2045 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,320 Speaker 5: have one guest on All the Smoke, who would it be? 2046 01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 5: But before you answer, you have to help us get 2047 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:36,000 Speaker 5: your answer. 2048 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 1: On the show. So gotta be someone you talked to, 2049 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:45,680 Speaker 1: like a Quai Brandon Roy like just whoever you want 2050 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:46,280 Speaker 1: to see on the shore. 2051 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:50,240 Speaker 2: You got to the yah Yah, y'all had the more 2052 01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:57,400 Speaker 2: yet Yeah, say, brother, that might be doing. He don't 2053 01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,560 Speaker 2: rock with a lot of NBA players. He ain't the 2054 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 2: NBA player to you. That's my brother. 2055 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 1: I love like that. 2056 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 2: Wasn't everybody swearter God. 2057 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:05,800 Speaker 1: We don't work. 2058 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to hang out, work out nobody, No 2059 01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:09,000 Speaker 4: disrespect to you. 2060 01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:16,880 Speaker 6: It's all love my brother. Okay, y'all had him. Uh man, 2061 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:19,599 Speaker 6: we're waiting on the calr. 2062 01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:21,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna get the calck. 2063 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:24,200 Speaker 1: Me and you both can work on that. Now. 2064 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,840 Speaker 4: We're getting the club we get now that's done deal. 2065 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,360 Speaker 4: We're gonna work on the car as soon as we're 2066 01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:29,880 Speaker 4: done today. 2067 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm calling them, Yeah we need it. 2068 01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,639 Speaker 4: I ain't rocking with your calus All the Smoke, Dad, 2069 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,000 Speaker 4: because I don't do a I don't do interviews. When 2070 01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,720 Speaker 4: they said y'all call You know, y'all, you know what 2071 01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:44,479 Speaker 4: I'm saying, and you know it's love. Like even so 2072 01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,200 Speaker 4: like I want y'all to know, like I appreciate y'all 2073 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,840 Speaker 4: what you stand for. You feel me a message y'all 2074 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:50,400 Speaker 4: putting out. 2075 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like y'all trying to make 2076 01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,519 Speaker 2: a change, bro, But y'all doing it the authentic way. 2077 01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,559 Speaker 4: Ain't nothing fake about it. I watch everyone, appreciate everyone 2078 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,559 Speaker 4: what I'm saying the legendary Bro. 2079 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,160 Speaker 1: You've been told me that though you know what I mean. 2080 01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,760 Speaker 3: I watch everyone, But I appreciate your time from a 2081 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,360 Speaker 3: standpoint of obviously during season, during season first and foremost, 2082 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:10,200 Speaker 3: but just getting this in. 2083 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,080 Speaker 1: Like you said, you don't talk to very many people. 2084 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 3: So for your fans, for our fans to get an 2085 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,840 Speaker 3: in depth understanding of who you are as a man, 2086 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:18,960 Speaker 3: like fuck the basketball side, like we get to see 2087 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,600 Speaker 3: you every night, We're blessed see you every night, but 2088 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,880 Speaker 3: to see your morals, your principles, your values, what you 2089 01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,280 Speaker 3: stand for, how important family is, how important being a 2090 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,240 Speaker 3: father is. Like that kind of shit is dope to 2091 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,639 Speaker 3: me because we wouldn't get that conversation. 2092 01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:30,400 Speaker 1: We went to dinner. 2093 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:31,840 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like we got to get 2094 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,920 Speaker 3: in depth and dig into it. So again, man, we 2095 01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,439 Speaker 3: appreciate your time. Like Jack said, especially during the season. 2096 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,680 Speaker 3: We got some shit for you over here. We got 2097 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:40,519 Speaker 3: some merch for you. 2098 01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:42,719 Speaker 2: All merch, Oh yeah, for sure. 2099 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,200 Speaker 1: All the Smoke Dot Store. 2100 01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:45,680 Speaker 5: And if you want to look as fresh as us 2101 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:46,360 Speaker 5: guys up here on. 2102 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,000 Speaker 1: The stage, you have to go to All the Smoke 2103 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,559 Speaker 1: Dot Store and get your gear. All the Smoke that. 2104 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,160 Speaker 3: Store, man, dejontey Man, we appreciate you. That's a wrap, 2105 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:55,160 Speaker 3: de Jontay Murray. 2106 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:56,120 Speaker 1: All the Smoke. 2107 01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,880 Speaker 3: You can catch us on Showtime Basketball, YouTube and the 2108 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:00,479 Speaker 3: iHeart platform like effects. 2109 01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 1: All the Smoke that Store, bitch. We'll see y'all like yes,