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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Fornette.

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Speaker 3: I've got a question for you, girl.

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Speaker 2: Always always have a question, I do, and I always

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Speaker 2: have answers.

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Speaker 3: I got a pocket full of questions and a pocket

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Speaker 3: full of waiting for your answer. Here's my question. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's ridiculous, I do, I do?

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Speaker 2: What did you know that the Super Bowl for too blue?

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Speaker 2: The Super Bowl is apparently the biggest chicken wing consumption

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Speaker 2: day of the year.

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Speaker 3: I would guess that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it may

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Speaker 3: it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: It's like that, and like Halloween, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sure pizza probably Also.

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Speaker 2: Don't you give kids Halloween chicken wings? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You got a bullet chicken wings for all the kids

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Speaker 3: you come by. You don't do that now, I give

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Speaker 3: out handy wipes.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. That's ridiculous. That's that's it's so super Bowl for

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Speaker 2: that's the yellow when you talk about football football, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, so much. You have no idea. So really

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Speaker 2: you have no So the biggest wing consumption day of

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Speaker 2: the year, right, and like, would you call chicken wings craveable?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm just asking because I would not know. I'm

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Speaker 2: not a fan of that word.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's actually a.

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Speaker 2: Word, because like there's the craveable flavor of ranch and

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Speaker 2: buffalo wings.

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Speaker 3: Now you're using it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like what you know, we think of like

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Speaker 2: ranch and buffalo wings and like our faces getting greasy,

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Speaker 2: our lips in particularly getting greasy.

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Speaker 3: Sure, why not?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what else makes your lips greasy?

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Speaker 3: Producer day, please make your stuff. She's doing it to

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Speaker 3: me again. It's what it's a mashupes.

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Speaker 2: Birds Bees lip gloss.

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Speaker 3: Did you say berts Bees lip bomb?

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Speaker 2: I should say bomb?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well whatever my lip rub uh huh. So chickings,

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Speaker 3: we have us a mash. I have a chicken wing

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Speaker 3: grease lip roll.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, okay. So birds Bees got together with Hidden

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Speaker 2: Valley Ranch, which is a frequent flyer.

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Speaker 3: Does people have ranch to make?

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Speaker 2: The ranch folks and the cheetos folks need to just

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Speaker 2: sit down for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: They take every call, They're like, hello, they'll.

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Speaker 2: Do they will do it. They're like shack and a commercial.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we're free.

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Speaker 2: I will totally do it. Okay. So they have four flavors,

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Speaker 2: Hidden Valley Ranch, Ranch, lip Bomb, Crunchy, Celery Fresh, Carrot

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Speaker 2: and then Buffalo sauce. Oh my god, I told you

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Speaker 2: it was four listen, listen to what I say. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: it came out. It was released on January seventeenth. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and you could use like a code to get free shipping.

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Speaker 2: That it was a pack was like twelve bucks.

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Speaker 3: This is for the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know we're all getting ready and fired up.

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Speaker 2: I am. I will not change my underwear for four

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Speaker 2: months for the super Bowl for good Luck, because I

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Speaker 2: love football over your team luck for too blue. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: this all kicked off because they in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: Hidden Valley Ranch did like a April Fool social media

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Speaker 2: thing saying that they were going to make lip Bomb,

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Speaker 2: and then people are like, I love it. Do it?

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Speaker 3: Do their executives do like acid that the retreats, Yes,

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Speaker 3: they just have corporate retreats. They're like, okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: do mushrooms. Did everyone come up with a mashup?

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Speaker 2: You want to say January seventeenth? It comes out January eighteenth,

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Speaker 2: Uh huh sold out?

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Speaker 3: How many did they make?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Four, no, barely.

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Speaker 3: They they didn't say how many. They made, sure a

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Speaker 3: lot and.

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Speaker 2: They were all like, really, wow, this one sold out fast.

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Speaker 3: Does anyone ever use them? No?

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Speaker 2: I think this is the kind of garbage that you

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Speaker 2: give to someone uhuh huh, and then it like sits

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Speaker 3: Bookshelf or did like a birthday gift.

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Speaker 2: And then it's like you're cleaning your house because you've

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Speaker 2: realized your life is like just a disaster. I need

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Speaker 2: to write it up. Yeah, and then off it goes.

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Speaker 2: So there are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you talking confessing a little bit here? You got

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Speaker 3: a second because I got something that's also ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've taken all the seconds.

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Speaker 3: On that, okay, because you know what is also ridiculous

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Speaker 3: other than your birch Bee's lip balm.

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Speaker 2: For too blue.

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Speaker 3: Your wedding day. Oh no, this we're supposed to say,

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Speaker 3: but Saren, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not married, Karen, I'm not married.

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Speaker 3: And then I say, no, not your wedding day. Your

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Speaker 3: wedding day, like as in just anybody's wedding, wedding, like

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Speaker 3: it's supposed to be this special day, any wedding day.

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Speaker 2: One's wedding day, one of the most second person and

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Speaker 2: put it into the third one.

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Speaker 3: Listen as if I'm speaking to everybody. You your wedding

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Speaker 3: day people, mister and missus America and all the ships

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Speaker 3: at sea. Okay, it's supposed to be this special day, right,

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Speaker 3: one of the most magical, loving days of your life. Elizabeth,

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Speaker 3: Imagine if you tried to use that day to pull

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Speaker 3: a fast one, or to finessa mark, or maybe to

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Speaker 3: flee a fool. Maybe how about long con some gumbible normies,

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Speaker 3: or better yet, how about this one. You use your

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Speaker 3: wedding day to steal someone else's entire home.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know what that would be ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: This is Ridiculous Crime, A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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Speaker 3: and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent ridiculous. Way first up, Elizabeth, I want

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Speaker 3: to do the little housekeeping now. For those who don't know,

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth runs an imaginary strip club where the strippers wear

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Speaker 3: clothing and just fly around on couches, not really dancing

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Speaker 3: or really.

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Speaker 2: Doing anything in like cozy clothes.

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Speaker 3: How's yeah, yeah? How are things that's lost is going

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Speaker 3: so well? How's business post pandemic? Or how are the ladies? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Perfect? We don't let anyone.

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Speaker 3: In anything new going on in caftans for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, anything moves or a snuggy nonactive where I

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Speaker 3: need to know about it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of down comforters this time of year. Well,

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Speaker 2: I like to check in with great social distancing rules.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it?

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Speaker 2: It's twenty feet twenty feet. Yeah, it's like from each

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Speaker 2: other from the public. Overt your eyes.

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Speaker 3: Big space bubbles. What do you have a term for that? Yeah? Now,

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Speaker 3: I know your business is purely fictional, but I do

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Speaker 3: like to hear how it's going. I care of the

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Speaker 3: market's treating you. I'm just a good American like that.

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Speaker 3: I know you are, Elizabeth. It's an election year, right,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want I don't want to talk about that. No,

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Speaker 3: I do, really do all So instead, today I want

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Speaker 3: to tell you about people who are stealing from weddings.

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Speaker 2: That's a mash up away, hard left turn.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where this is going lost, but well, okay,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about weddings. People who steal from weddings,

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Speaker 3: people who use weddings to steal from people. We got

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Speaker 3: both cons and today now, Joseph Davis, that's that's our guy, right,

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Speaker 3: do you know him?

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Speaker 2: Not personally?

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Speaker 3: Do you know where law enforcement might be able to

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Speaker 3: find him? Because he is not a good groom. He

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Speaker 3: needs to be stopped before he strikes again, Elizabeth, This dude,

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Speaker 3: Joe Davis, he was planning to be a bigamist. He

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Speaker 3: wasn't there yet. He was planning, He was on his way,

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Speaker 3: he didn't quite get there. There were two women who

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Speaker 3: both thought they were his fiance. Yeah, so the forty

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Speaker 3: eight year old, right, he's sharking around on the dating

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Speaker 3: site Okay Cubid. This is like back in cubid. Okay Cupid, Cubist,

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Speaker 3: Okay Cubist. Yes, it's it's an art site. You gotta

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Speaker 3: be a little little sideways anyway.

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Speaker 2: Hey Cubist. Such a good idea.

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Speaker 3: For a dating site.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, go ahead, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So twenty fifteen is when they met on Okay Cupid,

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Speaker 3: and that's when he met the first woman to whom

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Speaker 3: he proclaimed his love. Right, he tells this womany man,

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Speaker 3: my name is Joe Brown. Nice to meet you, baby.

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Speaker 3: The next year he's back on okay Cubid. That's when

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Speaker 3: he meets woman number two. He tells, hey, baby, nice

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Speaker 3: to meet you. My name is Marcus Brown. Oh he

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Speaker 3: has two names, right. He was on it, you know,

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Speaker 3: he was smart. He was like, I need two names,

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Speaker 3: two women, two names, but both of them will be

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Speaker 3: mister Brown. So that way public if somebody says, mister Brown.

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Speaker 3: A Tarantino movie. Mister Brown. That's it. So this dude,

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Speaker 3: not a judge Joe, but Joe Brown. Please call me

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Speaker 3: mister Marcus. He romances these two women, right and at

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Speaker 3: the same time for years, four years, because we're up

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Speaker 2: So at one point, though, what year did he start?

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Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen for number one and twenty sixteen for number two.

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Speaker 3: He's strung um both along for five and six years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he just like laid the groundwork with the

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Speaker 3: Then he went to the next. He's apparently a fast

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Speaker 3: at one point, the dude he takes girlfriend number two

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Speaker 3: that would be weird.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth, Well, I mean I don't know they so they

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Speaker 2: let's establish the girlfriends don't know about each other.

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Speaker 3: No, they not know about each other.

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Speaker 2: I mean because I don't know how some people want

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Speaker 2: Oh no, some people.

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Speaker 3: Roll that like that. But anyway, she's at work, and

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Speaker 3: so he takes girlfriend number two around the house for it,

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Speaker 3: gives her tour of the home and it get this.

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Speaker 3: He tells her it's his house or no, it's about

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Speaker 3: to be his house, right, And she's like, oh baby,

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Speaker 3: this is great now. I bet you can start to

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Speaker 3: hear the dateline music start to play in your head.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean about to be his house?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Dah?

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Speaker 3: But I will I promise you the story is not

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Speaker 3: going to turn dark and bloody. You know this is

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Speaker 3: We're keeping this one in ninety nine percent.

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Speaker 2: Murder fat, don't worry.

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Speaker 3: You want me to tell you nothing bad happens to

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Speaker 3: girlfrid number two a number one in that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's still a sick o exactly.

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Speaker 3: He's still got Joe Marcus and there waiting.

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Speaker 2: Around the other woman's house. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: So back to Joe, I'm sorry, did you say Marcus Brown?

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Speaker 3: After he showed girlfriend number two the home of girlfriend

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Speaker 3: number one. He told her it was his house. He's like, Yo,

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Speaker 3: we're about to be his house. He goes bigger. He's like,

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Speaker 3: you know you should move in with me, baby, stop it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: She was like, for real, because I'm gonna go home

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Speaker 3: and pack up all my stuff right, And he's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: She's like, that is bad news to hear, right. Girlfriend

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Speaker 3: This same guy, jarkis George. Yeah, jarkis. Now for number one,

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Speaker 3: Oh no, So she then girlfriend uh number two ask

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Speaker 3: So they go back and forth. No, you're looking at

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Speaker 3: So anyway, equally incense. These two women, these two score

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Speaker 2: Yes, Joe Louis Davis.

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Speaker 3: Not only that, he also had prior arrest for cocaine possession,

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Speaker 3: Oh lome all around class act. Right, But this is

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Speaker 3: Louis Davis had a notable tattoo, because you know they

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Speaker 2: Boy.

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Speaker 3: Now, I can find no records that Lewis Davis has

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Speaker 2: Only God can judge him, and God's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, anyways, but let's take a little.

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Speaker 3: Break and after these messages, I'll tell you about the

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Speaker 3: couple that stole a dream home for their dream wedding.

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Sar, What do you know about the International House

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Speaker 3: of Pancakes?

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Speaker 2: International House of Pancakes? They serve pancakes?

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about I hop from don't they go

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Speaker 3: by I hop Yes, that's what they changed their name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been there. Okay, I like a good pancake,

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Speaker 2: you do, right, sure?

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Speaker 3: Well, much like me as a kid, I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I dreamt of it.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever con family members into taking you there? No?

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Speaker 2: They have all the different flavors of syrup right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, strawberry, blueberry. But oh girl, have I got good

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Speaker 3: news for you? Okay, the rudy, tooty, fresh and fruity

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Speaker 2: Stop it. Yes, I don't even know what it is,

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Speaker 3: I got even more good news. For just seven dollars,

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Speaker 3: you can enjoy two fluffy buttermilk pancakes. I know you

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Speaker 3: not one, not two, not three, but four fruity toppings,

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Speaker 3: thus the rudy and the twoty. You also get two

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Speaker 2: I kind of want to have breakfast for dinner now, yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: I do love just putting ideas in your head, but

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Speaker 3: Okay, well they don't have that anymore. No taste change, Elizabeth, carbs,

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Speaker 3: you know whatever things. Yea, So people now they have

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Speaker 3: a Mexican trace let chest pancakes. Oh, interesting, have cinnastack pancakes.

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Speaker 2: Where's that from?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, double blueberry cinnistan cupcake pancakes.

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Speaker 2: They also cupcake pancakes, yeah, like.

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Speaker 3: With the little sprinkles and stuff. Oh yeah, and New

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Speaker 3: York cheesecake pancakes. If you're into the whole fitness thing.

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Speaker 3: They also have strawberry banana protein pancakes.

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Speaker 2: But if you're into the whole fitness thing, you are

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Speaker 3: Well they also have if you're like me or a

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Speaker 2: Chocolate chocolate.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's chocolate pancakes with chocolate chip, not the old

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Speaker 2: It all has to be excessive.

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Speaker 3: Well I will go there with or with you, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: All right, maybe we can have it catered into the studio.

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Speaker 3: No, I just want to let you know, like no

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of are.

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Speaker 3: I'm pro pancakes.

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Speaker 2: You're a little bit rudy.

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Speaker 3: I want people to be happy, and that's what I

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Speaker 3: hop is waffles.

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Speaker 2: Waffles are good too.

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Speaker 3: Did you know you can get I Hop syrup delivered

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: My point, Elizabeth is I hop You got.

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Speaker 2: My point is now I want pancakes.

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Speaker 3: I do actually have a point about this whole I

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Speaker 2: Fortunes, like Air Jordan's.

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Speaker 3: Like rich kids who are adults, but they act like

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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting is that for Thursday's episode, I

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Speaker 2: too am doing a compendium, and I too have things

439
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Speaker 2: that took place in the same year, but no connection. Wow,

440
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Speaker 2: we're always on this weird wavelength.

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Speaker 3: I know you vibe with me.

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Speaker 2: I vibe with you, totally vibe.

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Speaker 3: So this cat his name Nathan Finkel right man. Does

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Speaker 3: he have a nice home? All right? This property that

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Speaker 3: he lives in or owned at the time sixteen thousand

446
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Speaker 3: square feet.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is huge compound.

448
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Speaker 3: Had a grand ballroom but not just that, had a dance.

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Speaker 2: Studio, he's five six.

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Speaker 3: It had a movie theater.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 3: It had a two lane bowling alley. It had a

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Speaker 3: two story gentleman's bar. Wait, gentleman's bar like with lots

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Speaker 3: of wood, yes, exactly, but but more wood. It had

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Speaker 3: an elevator because why not lighted tennis court if you're

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Speaker 3: in to that, like nighttime.

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Speaker 2: Tennis, that'd be fun night time tennis.

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Speaker 3: New one. But there's also a huge pool in hot tub,

459
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Speaker 3: because you got to have a huge pool in hot tub,

460
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Speaker 3: long rolling lawns, gardens everywhere. You would have loved it, right,

461
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Speaker 3: little ponds with scenic walkways and get this. There was

462
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Speaker 3: also like an entrance trail that leads to the house,

463
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Speaker 3: super long entrance traiale. The home boasts all these stained

464
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Speaker 3: glass windows. You would love it. Twenty nineteen, the home

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Speaker 3: was listed for sale for five points seven million dollars

466
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Speaker 3: just seal. Nowadays, I think that same house is a

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Speaker 3: few years later post pandemic would be I think ten

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Speaker 3: trillion dollars. I think, because I didn't look it up.

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Speaker 2: But he goes much mill I don't know. I won't

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Speaker 2: get you that. In California, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, you get a three bedroom home right in and

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Speaker 3: see you.

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Speaker 2: Know, you get a cute little bungalow exactly.

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Speaker 3: So this dude, Nathan, he buys his mansion with his

475
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Speaker 3: father's millions because his father made all of his money

476
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Speaker 3: as an early in franchisee with IHOP. Oh yeah, now

477
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Speaker 3: do you see what an international pancakes for?

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Speaker 2: Ye yes, I mean here we're cracking up about the

479
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Speaker 2: home price and I'm laughing in home rentershit.

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Speaker 3: Both of us. Anyway, one day, this guy he dropped

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Speaker 3: by the Finkel mansion, right, and he was there to

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Speaker 3: attend an open house because the house was being listed

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Speaker 3: for sale. Right. So he's having this open house having

484
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Speaker 3: people come through and say, oh do you want to

485
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Speaker 3: look at my two story gentlemen, bar this could be

486
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Speaker 3: yours right right? And then he acted this guy who

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Speaker 3: stopped by in the house. He acted like a prospective buyer.

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Speaker 3: He took the tour of the home, the surrounding grounds,

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Speaker 3: whatever he saw. It just stuck with him because he decides,

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Speaker 3: I want to get married here, right. So a few

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Speaker 3: months later he phones the family. He's like, finkeels, Hi,

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Speaker 3: I came buy the house a couple months back. I

493
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Speaker 3: was wondering, would you mind if like one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty or so of my friends and family used your

495
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Speaker 3: mansion for a weekend wedding. What do you say?

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Speaker 2: Huh? Well, I mean there are people who rent their

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Speaker 2: homes out totally, a.

498
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Speaker 3: Lot of them right, especially out here in California, but

499
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Speaker 3: they can't afford their homes, so they're like, help us

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Speaker 3: afford the home. So anyway, Finko reportedly listened to the

501
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Speaker 3: man's wedding plans. He's like, oh, you want to use

502
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Speaker 3: the house? Okay? And how many one hundred and fifty people?

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Speaker 3: And he's like absolutely not, No, don't ever come your

504
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Speaker 3: hair again, No, don't call me right. So the groom,

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Speaker 3: though Elizabeth undaunted. He's like, this is just a mere

506
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Speaker 3: stumbling block, a speed bump, if you will, on the

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Speaker 3: road of my dreams. A dream had been born that day, Elizabeth,

508
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Speaker 3: when he took that tour. He had to take his

509
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: wedding there. He could be anything else to be unsatisfactory, right,

510
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Speaker 3: I mean you got to see this place. Look at

511
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Speaker 3: this place. Wouldn't you want to get married here if

512
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Speaker 3: you were into unchecked opulence and gagging displays of wealth? Like,

513
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Speaker 3: how would you describe this home? It's just it looks

514
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Speaker 3: like something somebody like.

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Speaker 2: If a mcm was like tumorous and then just kept

516
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Speaker 2: expanding and carbuncles? What is the what in the whatting glass? Like?

517
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Speaker 3: Just it's huge, right, it looks.

518
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Speaker 2: Like a dreams because here's the thing, like, how many

519
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Speaker 2: people are living in this house?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think there's only a family, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And this you think of all the people that could

522
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Speaker 2: be housed in this complex, it's like the size of

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Speaker 2: a hotel. This is such waste. This is why we

524
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Speaker 2: this is why I can't have nice that home.

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Speaker 3: You just need to start, you know, an I hot franchise.

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Speaker 2: This is so ostentatious and it's so it's just wasteful.

527
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Speaker 3: Yeah, insane, right, but.

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Speaker 2: Because think about the heating like HVAC for that, or

529
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Speaker 2: the lights, the water bill.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, good point. In Florida, it's muggy, so you're

531
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Speaker 3: running air conditioning twenty four to.

532
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Speaker 2: Seven sometimes, and you've got you've got the pool. And

533
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Speaker 2: think of all the maintenance people, like they're not cleaning

534
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Speaker 2: their own house. They have housem while they are like

535
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Speaker 2: supporting the economy. I suppose God the cost of that.

536
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Speaker 2: I wonder he's moving well.

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Speaker 3: Cut to April seventeenth, twenty twenty one. The bride and

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Speaker 3: groom have opted for an early afternoon wedding. They've selected

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Speaker 3: three thirty PM as the time for their wedding. The

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Speaker 3: invitations they send out tell their guests to please join

541
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Speaker 3: them at the Wilson's Estate, which is the name of

542
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Speaker 3: the groom and soon to be the bride. They casually

543
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Speaker 3: referred to this as their home right, so as it reads,

544
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Speaker 3: it is quote, it is our honor to welcome you

545
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Speaker 3: into our dream home and estate to share this special

546
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Speaker 3: occasion with us. We are excited to celebrate our wedding

547
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Speaker 3: night with you and look forward to a wonderful evening

548
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Speaker 3: of celebration, exquisite feast and dancing at our royal extravaganza.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like royal medieval celebrate our wedding night with you, Like,

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Speaker 2: whoa up here? I'm there for the ceremony of the

551
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Speaker 2: reception that I am out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which one of us is the lord of this land?

553
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: So the wedding invitation brought, Elizabeth. They promise that following

554
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Speaker 3: the ceremony, guess would be ushered inside for quote a

555
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Speaker 3: red carpet cocktail hour. Whatever that is.

556
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Speaker 2: Well, and think about it, like if you know this person,

557
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Speaker 2: Like if a friend of mine gave me this invitation

558
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Speaker 2: like this and said it are at our home, and

559
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 2: be like, who are you fooling? Like I don't know

560
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: any of them who lives in a house? Like that.

561
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Speaker 3: You secret, Elizabeth when the lottery didn't tell me. So this,

562
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Speaker 3: by the way, after the red carpet cocktail hour, that

563
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: would be followed by a reception proper and the party

564
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: would keep on rocking until two thirty in the morning.

565
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Speaker 3: So don't come a knocking. But that wasn't the end

566
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: of the party, no, sir, because guests were invited back

567
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: to the Wilson's estate. The next day, for quote a

568
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: wonderful Sunday brunch that would feature and I quote delicacies

569
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Speaker 3: from our renowned chef on our resort style pool, while

570
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: being entertained by the sounds of a live jazz band.

571
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Speaker 2: The reason why no one's like, how did you kiddl.

572
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Speaker 3: You guys can could afford a jazz band. So the

573
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Speaker 3: reason why the soon to be Wilson's were going out

574
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Speaker 3: all out on their big day was that they wanted

575
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Speaker 3: to mark the specialness of their love story. You see, Elizabeth,

576
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Speaker 3: the soon to be newlyweds, they met back in high school.

577
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Speaker 3: They were in the same graduating class. Both were jocks.

578
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Speaker 3: She was quote very focused on pursuing her dreams of

579
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Speaker 3: a college scholarship, and he was a football player and

580
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: something of a bad boy. So, you know, their roads

581
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: diverged in the woods, and over time, these two crazy kids,

582
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: they drift apart, They lose track inside of you each other. However,

583
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: fate stepped in, played a hand, and thirty years later

584
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: they're now in their late forties. Somehow, some way, they

585
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: found each other again. Sarendipity, Elizabeth. They called it, quote

586
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Speaker 3: the Lord's plan now to bring the soon to be

587
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: newlyweds back together, to quote the couple. Nevertheless, as fate

588
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: would have it, we were divinely reconnected after thirty years.

589
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: I had just ended a five years relationship and he

590
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: a twenty year marriage. Now, God truly works in mysterious ways.

591
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: Listening, judging. He's out here finaggling relationships.

592
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: It's remarkable, it's amazing. And then there's a little thing

593
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: called a pandemic that offered up a speed bump to

594
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 3: their relationship in God's plans, but it didn't prevent their

595
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: love from growing and deepening. Finally, on Christmas Eve twenty twenty,

596
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Speaker 3: he proposed to her. As she recalled in the wedding invitation,

597
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Speaker 3: he took me and the children out riding to see

598
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: Christmas lights when we stopped for pizza at al Capone's

599
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: on Hollywood Beach.

600
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Speaker 2: Stop the invitation.

601
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Speaker 3: Yes, but it gets better, Elizabeth. She goes on to say,

602
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Speaker 3: he asked me to take a photo with him. Well,

603
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: he was secretly planning to propose in the snapshot. What

604
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: a magical moment. You're there in the al Capone's Pizza

605
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: place in Hollywood Beach, Florida.

606
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: Was wonderful.

607
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: God had more and sore for them.

608
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: It's not even just that he proposed in the Alky

609
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: Pizza in Hollywood, Florida. She puts the story in the wedding.

610
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but that's not all. There's more going down

611
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: in the al Capone's Pizza I need because they're in

612
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: the al Capone's Pizza place in Hollywood Beach, Florida. God

613
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: spoke to them, you see. According to the couple, that

614
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: was the moment when quote the Lord had revealed to

615
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Speaker 3: me the purpose of our encounter and answer to my prayer.

616
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: All that was left to do now was for the

617
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: couple to get married. So when he asked him, Finkel

618
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: had said, no, they couldn't use his mansion as a

619
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Speaker 3: backdrop for their sainted.

620
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: Lovers, even if the event catered by Alcone Pizza. And

621
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Speaker 2: I'll let you be there like al Capone.

622
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: Are you sure? Have you tried it in Hollywood Beach?

623
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: But that cat Finkle, he didn't understand. Like the Blues Brothers,

624
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: this couple was on a mission from God and they

625
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: were going to get married at this mansion. Whether he

626
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: liked it.

627
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: Or not is certainly God and like it is Christ's

628
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: like behavior to steal someone's home, very Christ.

629
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Speaker 3: Like he was known for that and walking on water.

630
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: It's like the two things. So I don't know if

631
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: that was part of the plan God revealed to them

632
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: and al Capone's pizza place in Hollywood Beach, Florida, it

633
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: might have been. I wasn't there. Anyway, The couple plans

634
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: their wedding, Then they arranged catering. They hired the live

635
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: jazz band I imagine or whatever. Then lastly, they invite

636
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: all their friends and family to join them at the

637
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: finkel Mansion or say the Wilson's Mistakes for their big day.

638
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: Now smash cut to the morning of the ceremony. The

639
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: groom and his bride arrive at the Finkele Mansion. I

640
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: guess they planned to prepare the site for their wedding,

641
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: but they were surprised to find that the house, although

642
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: listed for sale, was not unoccupied, not like the groom

643
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: had hoped. Instead, someone was home, and that's someone was

644
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: the home owner. Oh No, Most importantly, he had not

645
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: heard anything from God about this wedding. So let's go

646
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: there now, Elizabeth, Oh, Elizabeth, I'd like you to close

647
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: your eyes. Picture is It's a lovely April day in Florida.

648
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: There's a slight onshore breeze that's blowing the fragrance of

649
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: flowers through the air. There's that soft throb of insects

650
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: in the distance. Occasionally a seabird takes wing and flies

651
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: up into the sky, which at the moment is a

652
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: light blue. But since it's floored, the skies and the

653
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: weather could change in any moments, so don't get too

654
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: attached to it. But right now it's an idyllic April morning.

655
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: You are in the town of Southwest Ranches. This Miami

656
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: suburb is located north and east of the sprawling city.

657
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: It's up there on the eastern edge of the Everglades

658
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: where the land once again turns sandy and dry. It's

659
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: called Southwest Ranches to honor the many horse ranches in

660
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: the area. There are countless equestrian trails that run throughout

661
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: the suburban, semi rural yet upscale development. It's a relatively newtown,

662
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: by the way, It was incorporated in two thousand, if

663
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: you were wondering, Oh, that's when the people elected their

664
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: first town council, led by Mayor Fink. That's Mayor Mecca Fink,

665
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: along with Vice Mayor Dollar that's Johnny Dollar like the

666
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: old RADI show. The other council members are Astor Knight,

667
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: Forrest Blanton, and Freddie Phisickelli. These names right, they sound

668
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: like it was founded, but it was written for a

669
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: mystery novel in Florida total. Anyway, Southwest Ranches is a

670
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: Florida development, if ever there were one, and also for

671
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: such a small area in a rural place, the town

672
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 3: boasts a very super interesting list of notable people on

673
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: its Wikipedia page. For instance, there are a number of

674
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: former and current NFL stars who live there, like your

675
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: man Tyreek Hill of the Miami Dolphins, also former Indianapolis

676
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: Cults great Reggie Wayne and former Minnesota Viking quarterback Dante Culpepper,

677
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: but also the Rock Dwane Johnson, and perhaps most notably,

678
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: the former television psychic Miss Cleo.

679
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: Wait so the Rock and Miss Cleo.

680
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: Also, all of these people have called Southwest Ranches home

681
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: at one time or another, and at the moment, so

682
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: do you. Because you are a bright white bird, the

683
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: western cattle egret, you are a type of heron. You're

684
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: a white feather, but you also have brilliant yellow feathers

685
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: for your plumage stock. The fields and streams of Florida,

686
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: picking off insects between the hoofs of the cattle as

687
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: they graze, or you hop up on their backs and

688
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: nab ticks from their hides. You migrated to Southwest ranches

689
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: from your old home and the dry tortugas off the

690
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: coast of Florida. The cattle here are good for a

691
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: steady diet of bugs and grubs. Anyway, you're presently standing

692
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: on the back of a cow as the gentle beast

693
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: grazes at the fence line. Standing there just across the

694
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: street from the gate to the Finkle Mansion. You are

695
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: not picking ticks at the moment, though, because you have

696
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: a show. A car pulls up and a man in

697
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: a rented tuxedo and a woman in a wedding dress

698
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: get out. The man tells his bride to wait at

699
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: the gate. She sits on the hood of the car

700
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: while he attempts to pry open the tall gates to

701
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: stand guard at the driveway or the Finkle mansion. You're like,

702
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: what is going on here? The Finkel Mansion is one

703
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: of the most impressive spreads in the area. The place

704
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: has great bugs, and today it also offers up a

705
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: great show. You watches the groom tries to figure out

706
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: a way to pry open the gates. You have serious

707
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: doubts he can do this. Then so does the bride,

708
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: it seems anyway. You spy a golf cart approaching from

709
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: the main house. Oh man, man, it's about to get good.

710
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: The tuxedoed groom is still attempting to open the gate.

711
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: He's got a screwdriver and he's shoved it between the

712
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: two tall iron doors of the gate, and he's trying

713
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: to force the lock open by hand. The wannabe groom

714
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: pauses when he and the bride both spot the golf

715
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: cart bearing down on them from the other side of

716
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: the gate. You spread your wings and take a quick

717
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: few flaps, you know, just to get a better view

718
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: and to be able to hear everything. Because it's about

719
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: it get so good. You land on the fence that

720
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: runs alongside the gate. The golf cart pulls to a

721
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: squealing stop. A late middled age man hops out. He's

722
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: dressed in white slacks, a golf shirt, and a sweater.

723
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: He looks like a character from like a nineteen sixty

724
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: sitcom about the wealthy. The tuxedoed groom greets him, good afternoon, sir.

725
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: Just what do you think you're doing? The man replies

726
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: his words, they come hot and fast, getting married today.

727
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: It's a blessed day. The man answers, what about you?

728
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: I own this place, This is my home. What do

729
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: you mean today?

730
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: If it's today?

731
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: What are you two doing out here? You shouldn't you

732
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: be in a church? The homeowner shouts back to the gate,

733
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: We say where, we're getting married here? The wannabee groom

734
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: helpfully planes the homeowner. He may be dressed soft, but

735
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: he talks tough wear here here, here, No, no, no,

736
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: you two are not getting married here. This is a

737
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: private residence. You are loving this. This is like a

738
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: Fellini film set in Florida. The groom responds, His voice

739
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: is calm, almost too calm. No, you see, we are

740
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: getting married here today. We didn't think you were home.

741
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: Would have been much easier if you weren't here. But

742
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: if you'd like, we'd love to have you join our wedding.

743
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: The golf lover, he looks at the bride on the

744
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: hood of the car. Is he high? What's he talking about?

745
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: If you could laugh, you would, but instead you just

746
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: got a bird chuckle to yourself, and the homeowner says,

747
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: you and people need to leave, and the groom he

748
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: ain't hearing it. He just says, no, you see, you

749
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: don't understand. It was God's message that we be married here.

750
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: God spoke unto me and he said, I don't give

751
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: a tanker's damn what God said. I'm calling nine to

752
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: one one. Homeowner shouts back, and with that he whips

753
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: out his phone and indeed phones nine to one one

754
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: operator answers. Homeowner tells the emergency operator. Yeah, hello, I

755
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: have people trespassing on by property. They keep harassed. They're

756
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: saying there they're having a wedding here, and it's God's

757
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: message and I don't know what's going on. All I

758
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 3: want is to stop. And they're sitting at my property

759
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 3: right here at the front gate. Yes, right now, please

760
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: send police. You flap your wings again, lift up and

761
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: then gently land on the other side of the gate.

762
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 3: You gaze down at the wannabe groom. You look over

763
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: at the bride. You look back the groom. He should

764
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: be embarrassed or annoyed something. Instead he's just smiling. He

765
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 3: looks back. You'll see it's God's plan that we're gonna

766
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: be married here. You'll see. Don't you worry, baby, We're

767
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: getting married here now soon enough patrol car rides. Two

768
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: officers step out, have to tell the wannabe groom and

769
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: his wannabe bride they will indeed be no wedding at

770
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: the final mansion. SI's no, no actual trespassing. Accurd Elizabeth,

771
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: your fraudulent wedding occurred. No charges were filed against the

772
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: wannabe groom or his bride. Now, if you're wondering what

773
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: the groom had to say after God fell through for

774
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 3: him and the wedding planning, the Miami Son Sentinel caught

775
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: up to the disappointed groom and a reporter asked him

776
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: for comment. He said, and I quote, I don't want

777
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: to talk about it. The Miami Son Sentinel. They also

778
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 3: followed up in the couple's nuptial plans the courting to

779
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: the Broward County Public records, there was a marriage license

780
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: issued to the couple for that wedding weekend, but the

781
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: following weekend there was no registration of a marriage So

782
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: speed bumping anyway?

783
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 2: Does she know?

784
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: It?

785
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: Sounds like she didn't know that it didn't.

786
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: I think she knew that's a little maybe they were

787
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: waiting a new venue from their divine wedding planner. I

788
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: don't know what's going down, but anyway, let's take her

789
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 3: a little break and I'll be back with another wedding tale.

790
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: This one will melt your mind. I swear to God,

791
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 3: because this time it's the bride who gets stolen. Elizabeth Zaren,

792
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: We're back.

793
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: Hi.

794
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: I almost didn't tell you this one. Oh yeah. I

795
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: was like, is this story too insane? He driving miss

796
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: daisies for even Elizabeth?

797
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: Really?

798
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah? And then I thought, well, what would Elizabeth say?

799
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, she would say who knows?

800
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: Who cares?

801
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'm doing it, so buckle up, Buttercup.

802
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: It's about it all kinds of weird. All right, here's

803
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: the headline. I'll just tell you the headline. I was stolen,

804
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: so my real dad and my abductor walked me down

805
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: the aisle. I.

806
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm breaking it down right now. Give me a second.

807
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: Okay, doing the math on that one happened? Yeah, that's

808
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: one too many dads, so I can pay in the aisle.

809
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm stuck on. I was stolen, Yes, that's what we

810
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: call it.

811
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: Yes, and the abductor being invited to the wedding. Anyway,

812
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: So the story goes, this bride wanted the husband of

813
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: the woman who abducted her as a baby to be

814
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 3: able to walk her down the aisle because he'd raised

815
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: her and he was a good.

816
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: Father husband of the woman who her Okay, yeah.

817
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: He raised her as he basically was her father as

818
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: far as she knew for all.

819
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: And he didn't did he know she was abducted?

820
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 3: I couldn't shut from the news stories. I would find

821
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: it hard to believe he didn't know, Like, how is

822
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: it that your wife is not pregnant and suddenly she

823
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: comes home with a baby.

824
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he was like his daughter, Maybe he thought.

825
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: That maybe he was working on an oil Derek and

826
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: he came home nine months later.

827
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: Were they married when she abducted the kid? Because something

828
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: in like what if she abducted them? And then a

829
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 2: year later is like good point he meets and marries

830
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: him and he has no clue.

831
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: Well I'll tell you this much. Okay, she the daughter

832
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: wanted him there, so we're just going off. So yeah,

833
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 3: well yeah, anyway, this isn't old news. This is from

834
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Oh yeah, and this happened in South Africa.

835
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: The bride's name is Mika Zephanie Sheldon. I love that name,

836
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: Zephanie Zephanie. Anyway. She's twenty six at the time and

837
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: from Cape Town. She selected an autumn wedding for herself.

838
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: They were to be married on March twenty first, a Hemisphere. Yes, okay.

839
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: She'd been involved in a long term relationship before. She

840
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: had two kids, a girl and a boy, but the

841
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: couple split up. Then some time passed, she meets this

842
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: guy named Justin. He's a teacher. The two met at church.

843
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: They hit it off. He's kind, he's loving, He's like

844
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: no one she's known before. He's phenomenal. They date for

845
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 3: two years. They decided to get married. Now he knew

846
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: that there'd be issues before wedding, but he'd always been

847
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: very supportive and he knew her story. She'd shared with

848
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: him about her abduction as a newborn, so he knew

849
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: the whole deal. Anyway, about that, About the abduction the

850
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: story here. Sheldon was born April twenty seven, nineteen ninety seven.

851
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: Three days later, she was stolen from her hospital crib,

852
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: spirit away from the maternity ward right. The woman who

853
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: stole her was his named LaVona Solomon. She was unable

854
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: to get pregnant. She ate away at her till one

855
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: day she was willing to do something desperate and cruel

856
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: to make her dreams of motherhood come true. Right, So

857
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: she goes in. She sneaks and dressed as a nurse,

858
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: she steals another woman's child, another mother's child, and actually

859
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: just a mother's child, and raises this so as her own,

860
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: right along with her husband Michael. Now that the daughter

861
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 3: never knew, never suspected that she was not their biological child.

862
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: All she ever knew was a loving home.

863
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: Sure, three days old.

864
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: Everything's changes when she's in high school. Right, The year

865
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 3: is twenty fifteen. New student transfers to her high school

866
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: exciting fun girl. Her name's Cassidy. The two girls kind

867
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: of look similar, I mean, like real similar. People start

868
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: making comments about it. Eventually, people like the staff like, like,

869
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: there's a social worker schools like I think you two

870
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: may be related. They're like, what are you talking about?

871
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: Like you could be sisters, right, And they're like okay.

872
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: Eventually the social workers like, I can get you a

873
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: DNA test, right, Well, we can run some DNA tests

874
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: and see if you two are related. They do, right,

875
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: and the girls like, yeah, sure, let's do it. They

876
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: take the test. It comes back conclusive. They aren't just related,

877
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: They're not cousins. They are sisters, full biological sisters, same parents.

878
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: Whoa how could that be? Right before? That's what they're wondering. Right,

879
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: this is the beginning of the end of the big

880
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: lie of her life, right. So, and also it's the

881
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: beginning of the Sheldon's new family. So these are the

882
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: two sisters. You can see how they would recognize each

883
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: other instantly.

884
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

885
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: So after that, later that same year, February twenty fifteen,

886
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: Sheldon met Cassidy's mom and dad, her mom and dad,

887
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: and it did not go well. Sheldon said, quote, it

888
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: was extremely difficult because you've grown up thinking this is

889
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: your family. I mean, she says this, she means her

890
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 3: other parents, so the abductors of the bone Michael, So

891
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: she though still felt that they were her parents, like

892
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: in her heart of hearts, those are her parents. She's

893
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: got these other people are now in her life, and

894
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: she's like, this is weird. So, as she says, and

895
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: I'll put in her words, quote meeting my biological parents,

896
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: there wasn't that connection. I was looking for it, but

897
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: it just wasn't there. In the beginning. I had been

898
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: raised by LaVona and Michael my whole life. Right. So

899
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: time is supposed to heal all wounds, but it sometimes

900
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: it may take more time than a human lifetime will hold. Right. So,

901
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: Sheldon's birth parents could not forgive nor forget what Sheldon's

902
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: other parents had done all those years ago when they

903
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: stole their child from the hospital, and.

904
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: Those years of not knowing what and.

905
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: As as Sheldon blithely put it, both families were just

906
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 3: so harsh with each other. She's trapped in the middle.

907
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: She anyway, she wants to get married and she wants

908
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: both of her families there. That made things super awkward, right,

909
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: And I should point out LaVona, the mother abductor, she

910
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: was not invited to the wedding. Sheldon cut her out

911
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: of her life, and after she learned.

912
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: The truth, was she doing time.

913
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: She was arrested, tried, convicted and it was only ten

914
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: year sentence.

915
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: OK.

916
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: So she couldn't go to the wedding even she was

917
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: invited anyway. The father, Michael, he was free and she

918
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: wanted him at the wedding. So, as Sheldon put it, quote,

919
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: I really had to adjust to having two different dads

920
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: in my life, but I knew i'd want them both

921
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: walking me down the aisle whenever I got married. Now,

922
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I do not know how you do that.

923
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just not that forgiving. Like, I'm not

924
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: speaking as her I've never I've never been married. I'm

925
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: talking as the father. Right, you steal my child. You

926
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: were not invited to their wedding. Yeah, that's just a

927
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: drowned rule. Like, there's no way I walked down the

928
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: aisle with the man who stole my child, and you're like, yeah,

929
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: this is cool.

930
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: Was the world pals?

931
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean look at us Mader family.

932
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: No.

933
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 3: No, so her biological dad. He looked at things similarly

934
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: to how I look at him, and he was like

935
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: hell no, right, she told him, But Daddy, I really

936
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: want you to be there. He's like or whatever she

937
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: called him, He's like, no, I am not into this. Right.

938
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: As Sheldon put it, quote, my biological dad wasn't too

939
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: happy at first, but this day was all about me,

940
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 3: my relationship with my husband, and eventually he said yes

941
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: for me, it was a miracle, right, So the dude,

942
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: he sucks it up, right, did you do that? No,

943
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: there's no way I could, right, So anyway, so that's

944
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: what they all did. They all swallow down this poison

945
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: of the past. The bride can't be happier about how

946
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: it's all playing out, right, Sheldon says, quote, it was

947
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: such a beautiful day. I'm so glad my real dad

948
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: opened to his heart to walk alongside the husband of

949
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: my abductor down the aisle. Right now, if you can

950
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: believe that this saint walking among us, she doesn't even

951
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: have hate in her heart for the woman who stole

952
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: her from the hospital, Sheldon said, and I quote, I

953
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: don't see the mom who raised me as criminal and evil.

954
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: Everyone just got hurt the process. We all just need

955
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: to heal.

956
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: She needs she's she's such a she's glossing. She's not

957
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: a saint. She's not processing this properly.

958
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, dude, I thought that reading it. But

959
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: I also think that she's just a better human being

960
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: than I am, because I don't even approximate this level

961
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: of forgiveness. She seems to be legitimately processing it. Maybe

962
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. I don't know anyway, this whole that thing,

963
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: we just.

964
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: Kind of got hurt, like you were abducted.

965
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: Yes, but she also came from a loving home, so

966
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: she doesn't feel that she was denied something I guess.

967
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you know that, I mean it's a betrayal.

968
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: Oh totally. It would take me five six, seven lifetimes

969
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: of reincarnation to get close to being able to be

970
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: this forgiven right. I am nowhere near it. I don't

971
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: know anyway, micke Zephanie Sheldon. I will say you are

972
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: an inspiration for me. Elizabeth questions you, but whatever, we

973
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 3: have different opinions.

974
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: If I'm the birth mother, oh my god, I'm just

975
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: like outside their house.

976
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: I didn't find her in the story. She was not

977
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: mentioned so much. Oh, I don't know what.

978
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: Maybe she has time now too exactly that's where it

979
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: would be.

980
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. So Sheldon she inspired her two families to mend

981
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: bridges and try to forgive right that that has not

982
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: happened yet, but she's reported yet, quote that the relationship

983
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: between my two families is improving. They do get along

984
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: now we've all matured, realized we're a human and are

985
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: finally coming to terms with what happened. We show mutual

986
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: respect to one another, and we're all very understanding.

987
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, could you know? No, I don't even know.

988
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not sure like how I would process it, honestly,

989
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: because then you do start to think about how she

990
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: had another standpoint. I loved her in her.

991
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: View, firs standpoint, I get everyone else's. If I was

992
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: not the one who is my wedding and I just

993
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 3: have I'm just seething in my own emotions, I would

994
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: not be able to rapidly heal, to be able to

995
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: be present for her wedding. I don't know if I

996
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 3: could do that exactly that. So what's our ridiculous takeaway here?

997
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, yeay uh. Weddings many bring They bring out

998
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: the worst in a lot of people.

999
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: They really do. They bring up a lot of I

1000
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 3: think that's like they ratchet up the tension on people

1001
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: and then it causes some things to just spring out.

1002
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's like twofold you have like the

1003
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: wedding industrial complex. It's just like everything is is like

1004
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 2: a money grab. And then also it kind of there's

1005
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: this this pressure societally that I see that people think

1006
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: that they have to do certain things for the ceremony

1007
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: and for the reception and for just the trappings of

1008
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: it and how you do everything.

1009
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: There's a certain capitalist judgment.

1010
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and so you have to have it like

1011
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: at a country club. You're not country club people like

1012
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: you're not you know, you wouldn't normally do this kind

1013
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: of thing. So that's you know, it's a lot of

1014
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: pressure and it makes people do stupid stuff. But then

1015
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: you also have like the whole it's my special day.

1016
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: It's not your special bride zell and groups. It's two

1017
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: families coming together. It's not your special day that you

1018
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: want to be a princess. This isn't Halloween.

1019
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 3: What do you view a wedding as in terms of

1020
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: it's not your special day? What is?

1021
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: I think it's the celebration of the couple and it's

1022
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: two families coming together. Like no, it's an even you know, yeah,

1023
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: I always.

1024
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: Think of it's about the people who are there at

1025
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: the wedding more so than the bride. Yeah, because they

1026
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: already know.

1027
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a gang initiation exactly.

1028
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: You're getting jumped into like whatever that is.

1029
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 2: On the other side, you're making a new filly is Saron,

1030
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: what's your ridiculous takeaway?

1031
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: That's it right there, you gang initiation. I like that

1032
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: you're getting jumped in. I'm taking that one away. I'm

1033
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: gonna start telling people that. It's like, Yo, man, I

1034
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: gotta go to this gang initiation. What do you mean

1035
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: it's a June gang initiation. I'm trying to pick out

1036
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: a suit. What are you talking about? Yeah, it's like

1037
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: the friend he made me go. We've known each other forever, agister,

1038
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Yeah, man, I'm getting jumped in. Well,

1039
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: he's getting jumped in, but I'm in the way. I'm

1040
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: in the jumping party.

1041
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: Watch it. We're the circle of people standing around watching

1042
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: it in.

1043
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 3: The jumping party. I'm I'm his best jumper. Anyway, that's

1044
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: my ridiculous takeaway, Beautiful Elizabeth. You want to hear a

1045
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: talk back? Oh yeah, Dave hit it. Oh my god,

1046
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: I want.

1047
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,759
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1048
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,440
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1049
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 5: to Zarin, especially your Margaret. Thatcher imitation made me giggle

1050
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 5: out loud like an idiot at the gym, and I

1051
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 5: had an entire gym full of people looking at me.

1052
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 5: I had to finish my workout and awkwardly slink away,

1053
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 5: but it was worth it, So thank.

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