WEBVTT - #347 Packers Unscripted: What it'll take 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:20.320 Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.200 I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.880 west Hodkowits. We're coming to you here from our studios 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.159 at lambeau Field West. It's our final show of the 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:32.240 week here leading up to Packers Rams on Sunday afternoon 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:38.280 from Los Angeles the Colosseum PM Central time kickoff and 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.479 on our final show of the week, we always focus 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.599 on the keys to victory now, but the Packers at three, 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:45.360 two and one and the Rams at seven and Oh, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.879 the Packers have to do a lot of things well 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.280 in order to come away with a big road victory. Here. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.239 Where do you want to start? Throw the records out 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.680 of it? Okay, that's the first thing you gotta do. Uh, 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.800 it has to be zero and zero first, zero zero. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.840 You can't look at what the Rams have done, the stats, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.680 everything that you've seen so far, the defensive player of 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.200 the year, the offensive player of the year, the production, 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.200 all of that. It's all about one game at the 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.360 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and being the better team on 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.840 that day. That has to be the focus. I thought 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.440 in our final our final thoughts video not to give 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.920 anyway any spoilers, but you made such a great point. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.320 Aaron Rodgers needs to be the best player on the 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.920 field that day. I think the Packers need to win 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:30.280 the early first and down, second down situations. Offensively, get 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.720 yourself in second and manageable get yourself into third and 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.039 short in those instances, and defensively, you have to be 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.000 able to stop Todd Gurley. That's where it starts. They're 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.040 gonna get their place, they're gonna get their production, and 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.319 they'll probably get their points, but you have to be 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.480 able to contain him. The more he goes off as 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.000 a pass catcher as a runner, the harder and longer 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:49.880 that day is going to be. But it all starts, 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.880 in my opinion, Michael, with not looking at underdog, not 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.360 looking at you know, lines, looking at the opponent that's 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.680 in front of you, in figuring out a way to 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.800 beat them over the span of folk. Yeah, I think 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.480 what you say about the early downs really is important 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.920 on both sides of the ball here, because when you 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.080 look at what Todd Gurley does for this offense. We've 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.280 heard all week long about all of the misdirection and 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.480 keeping your eyes in the right place and all of 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.760 these kinds of things. As far as defensively, how you 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.320 try to contain this Rams team, Well, that all starts 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.520 with the way Todd Gurley runs the ball and how 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.520 they set up play action off of that running game. So, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.840 as you said, if you can win the early downs 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.840 and get them into more of a drop back passing 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.320 team as opposed to a play action passing team, that 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.760 gives your defense at least a little bit more of 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.240 an advantage to try to stay with those weapons, try 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.280 to get after Jared Goffin and disrupt him a little bit, 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:47.160 maybe get him get his timing um a little bit disrupted. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.480 On the other side of the ball. With the Packers, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.280 we mentioned it earlier this week because Aaron Rodgers brought 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.200 it up. The inordinate number of third and longs, the 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.919 third and eleven plus is the third and fifteen plus 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.359 is that the Packers have been in Hey. That all 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.119 comes down to again winning on first and second down. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.480 It's about getting the running game going. It's about cutting 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.400 down on the penalties, it's about cutting down on the sacks. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.799 Whatever the negative plays that have happened that have put 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.880 the Packers in those situations, those are the things that 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.239 that that have to be cleaned up, because, boy, I 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.360 tell you this pass rush Aaron Donald four sacks you know, 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.760 as part of a seven sack effort against the San 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.400 Francisco forty Niners. You don't want to be in third 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.840 and eleven plus against anybody, but against this pass rush, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.799 in this defense and on the road, that's a that's 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.680 a potential recipe, recipe for disaster. You don't want to 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.960 let Aaron Donald, you don't want to let Sue be 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.040 able to jet rush up the medal. You have to 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.640 be able to keep them honest. You can't let them 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.160 just jumping off the snap of the ball and trying 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.000 to get in the backfield. That is the recipe for success. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.760 When you look at their defense and how they're able 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.240 to affect the quarterback and honestly, Mike kind of affect 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.640 the running game two of the opposing team. I think 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.839 that's what makes them pretty special is that they are disciplined, 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.280 they are explosive, and they don't get out of their 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.080 gaps and and the the one thing I do think 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.840 about a lot when I go into this game, when 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.000 I was looking more and more at the matchup, is 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.640 the fact that I do believe it does start with 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.400 the run for the Packers, not only because Mike McCarthy 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.320 has been talking all week about the need to get 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.880 more touches of the backs, but also when you look 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.440 at the rams, I mean, the teams that have been 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.320 able to have success at least in terms of moving 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.040 the ball, have been able to win those early down situations. 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.279 Their twelve right now in total run against the run, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.240 everything else they do is top ten in those major 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.839 statistical categories. So they have to be able to Packers 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.479 have to be able to to move the ball a 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.120 little bit and ease the burden on Aaron Rodgers in 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.400 those tackles. Because I think with this game one of 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.040 the other things that really a lot of people are 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.039 talking about And I could end up being completely wrong 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.840 on this, and if I am in the press box, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.600 you can tell me I'm an idiot on game day. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.520 But I think there's a good chance this could be 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.720 a road home road game for the Packers. Oh, they're 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.680 gonna be a lot of Packers fans there, there's no 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:57.919 question people I've talked to it's an eight five venue. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.440 I heard a lot of stuff Mike on secondary market, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.400 people talking about how the week earlier in the week 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.359 after at the policy and those tickets are going for 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.680 anywhere from like thirty bucks to ninety they're well into 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.680 the three figures for this matchup with the Packers. There's 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.560 a lot of cheeseheads out on the West Coast, and 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.680 there's a lot of guys out there in gals as 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.839 well that don't get to watch them play a lot. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.120 So if that environment, if you can get that on 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.400 your side early on, whether it's the run, whether it's 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.600 the past, whether it's just some good stops early on, 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.280 there's a chance to really ride some momentum. Because when 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.719 I look at those games so far in Washington and Detroit, 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.719 those crowds were able to get into it early, and 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.640 that is not a good thing when you're going on 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.800 the road trying to you know, pull the upset. Yeah, 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.000 and as much as I agree with you about what 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.320 the Packers need to do with their running game and 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.200 easing the burden as much as they can on Aaron Rodgers, 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.520 I still think it does come down to Aaron Rodgers 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.880 being the best player on the field on Sunday. We've 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.359 seen We've seen these types of games before West where 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.360 whether it's against a division rival like the Minnesota Vikings, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.800 where a guy like Adrian Peterson or a guy like 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.080 Harrison Smith on defense has clearly been the best player 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.440 on the field that day, the guy who tilts the field. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.520 We've seen it with the Packers and Aaron Rodgers when 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.440 you know, as we brought up earlier this week, the 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.640 two thousand twelve game at Houston when Houston had J. J. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.080 Watt and that defense, and Arian Foster was the league's 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.400 leading rusher at the time, and the Texans were five 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.599 and oh and Aaron Rodgers went in and through six 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.280 touchdown passes and was hands down the best player on 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:31.200 the football field that night in Houston. The Packers need 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.839 Aaron Rodgers to be that guy that tilts the field 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:39.320 in this game because Aaron Donald is the reigning defensive 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.760 player of the Year and he's tied currently for the 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.200 league leading sex. Todd Gurley is the reigning offensive player 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.320 of the year. He is currently the league's leading rusher. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.480 Jared Goff has a passer rating right now that is 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.680 above a hundred and ten. He's in the m v 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.760 P conversation. In this mid season uh stretch here with 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:02.080 the Rams being undefeated, Aaron Rodgers has to be that 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.400 guy who gets it done for the Packers on Sunday. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.120 And if he's got all of his weapons on offense, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.640 if the Packers are in better shape on defense in 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.840 the secondary, as we talked about on our last show, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.120 with the injuries and hopefully healthwise things coming around, this 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.360 is going to give their Packers. Give the Packers their 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.560 best shot. Yeah, and another thing that they'll be able 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.760 to do regardless of what the game plan is, regardless 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.320 of how on things unfold. But if you're able to 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.760 get Aaron Rodgers going, if you get him comfortable earlier, 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.520 you get them moving the ball offensively, what's the number 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.200 one thing that happens to the Rams defense? It's right 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.680 up there. They start thinking, yeah, and the Packers they 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.400 have a checkered past here with Wade Phillips. You look 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.800 back to what happened against Dallas in two thousand and ten, 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.600 that was the last game he coached for the Cowboys. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:48.680 Then you look at what happened I believe it was 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.160 two thousand and fifteen, and that that performance that he 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.040 had with the Denver Broncos, what he was able to 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.200 do in that game. Both sides have won in this 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.280 rivalry with him. He's one of the brightest, one of 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.600 the most longest tendered defensive minds in this game, and 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.080 he's found a way to make those pieces fit in 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.560 with the rams they've had. You go back, Mike, what 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.720 they're doing offensively, this is relatively new. There was a 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.400 lot of years where they were struggling to get points. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.320 There's a lot of years where they're struggling to move 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.120 the ball down field. But defensively they've always had some playmakers. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.280 I think what Wade Phillips has brought to them is 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.760 a vision of where they need to be in what 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.160 they can do with these guys. How can Aaron Aaron 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.000 Donald take over football games? What can he do to 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.040 make the entire team better? And they felt like Sue 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.000 was obviously a part of that. Michael Brocker's he has 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.480 a role in that defense. He knows what his job, 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.480 duty and his responsibilities are. They play well within the 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.360 scheme and it's gonna be on the Packers when you 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.160 look at it, going out there and trying to set 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.320 the tone early to make those defenders start to think, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.320 because I think that's where they've had success in these 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.920 matchups lately. They started making the fort think in that matchup, 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.360 during that rally, they started making the Chicago Bears think 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.040 when they go back to that opener and what they 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.040 were able to do, you can't let them get into 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.680 a groove. Yeah, and let's see here with with Los 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.120 Angeles Rams. They are seven and oh yes they've won 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.280 some close games, but have they had to come from behind? 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.040 Have they Have they played from seven points down or 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.920 ten points down at any point in a ballgame? You know, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.880 the Packers have been talking about can they get out 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.240 can they get out to a fast start? You flip 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.160 the script a little bit on an undefeated team that 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.920 that is rolling and is winning in a certain way. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.240 If you get them out of there, get them out 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.640 of their game just a little bit, then you know, 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.760 suddenly in the fourth quarter, there you are with a 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.000 shot for the upset. It's a great point, Mike. And 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.160 the other thing you can't dismiss either. Jared Goff is 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.800 playing some good football right now, but he's still a 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.160 third year quarterback. You look at what Denver did to him, 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.600 completion percentage, had a turnover, got sacked five times. There 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.560 is a blueprint there. But the thing you have to 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.560 make sure you do and I've discussed this all week. 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.959 You can't forsake defending Todd Gurley to do that, because 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.160 girl is the guy who won that game. Is the 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.640 guy that won that game. That's the allens, and that's 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.000 the challenge, and that's the chess match going into the 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.160 Colisseum on Sunday afternoon, no question about it. Well, quickly, 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.439 a little sponsored business here, West, It's time to enter 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.320 the Cousins Subs Best Seats in the House promotion. You 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.040 and a guest could win a chance to kick back 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.160 on the fifty yard line in style. Two pairs of 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.120 lucky Packers fans will be chosen prior to each home 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.560 game for this v I P experience. Enter daily now 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.040 through December sixteen by completing the entry form and submitting. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.720 For complete rules and eligibility, go to Packers dot com 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:31.079 slash Best Seats Cousins Subs. We believe in Better. Okay, 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:32.800 we talked about it at the top of the show. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.280 Here the Los Angeles Memorial Colisseum. I've done a little 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.880 bit of research this week West on the Packers history 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.840 with some help from team historian Cliff Crystal, who has 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.600 covered some games at the Los Angeles I never have 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.079 and uh, and you never have been Disneyland out there, 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.880 but I haven't. Okay. The Packers have not been to 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:58.000 the l A Colisseum since when they played a game 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.840 against the then l A Ray Leaders there. They have 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:05.240 not played the Rams. They have not played the Rams. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.880 They haven't played the Rams at the coliseum in forty 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:16.800 years was the last time. Here's an interesting piece of 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.800 the history here of the Packers at the Los Angeles 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.880 Memorial Coliseum, and it's not a good one. West. The 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.240 Packers have played thirty games there in their history. Back 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.240 through the forties and fifties they played out there, and 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.680 through most of the sixties they played out there every year. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.640 The Rams were in what was then the Western Conference 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.520 before the whole alignment into divisions, so the Packers had 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.080 a game at the Colisseum every year. The Packers have 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:47.360 only won two games in their history at the Colisseum 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:52.480 when they're not coached by Vince Lombardi. Yeah, Vince Lombardi 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.360 went seven two and one, including Super Bowl One, the 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.000 big victory over the Chiefs at the l A Colisseum. 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:03.160 Vince Lombardi went seven too and one in ten games 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.200 at the Colosseum. The Packers have played twenty other games 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.800 at the Colosseum with other coaches to and eighteen. Yes, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.760 it's ugly. I'm gonna counter with one thing, Okay, So 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:18.040 then that was what that was before nine in after 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.800 nineteen seventy, right, So there's there, You're you're you're absolutely 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.319 you're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. But it's it's what 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.599 when you look at when you look at it statistically, 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.640 you're just like, what in the world? And was Lynda 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.560 and Fante bringing him out there a day early to 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.480 get acclimated it away in Fante he actually won the 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.400 game against the Raiders in that was that was the 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.800 that was that was the last time the Packers were 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.920 in that building. That was the second victory by a 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.800 non Lombardi coached Packers team out there. It's impressive. Well, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.880 you know, I missed that in my American history class 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.720 and when I was at Bayport. But what is impressive 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.200 though about this going back? I don't know how you 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.880 feel about it, but I really am big on sports 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.240 history and in being able to get to all these stadiums, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.199 and I think it is pretty cool that we get 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.400 to check it off at least my bucket list. In 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:10.040 terms of and what very well could be within building 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:11.599 that massive state, and it end up might be in 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.600 the last and only time we get an opportunity to 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.560 do that. Um. But it was interesting you worked on 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.360 the story, but it was interesting hearing some of these 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.640 guys discuss it this week that have played there, like 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.280 Kenny Clark saying sort of has a medieval vibe to 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.400 it a little bit with the clock and the old 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:29.439 school sort of architecture, and Clay Matthews Nick Perry certainly 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.800 have a long storied history there as well. It's a 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.199 different type of venue and it's going to be interesting 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.720 to see exactly how the Packers react to it, because 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.640 I really, honestly, Mike, there isn't too many that are 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.720 like in the NFL in terms of how it's built 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.160 and how it's structured. Yeah, well, here's a positive turn 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:49.040 to the history there because Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers actually 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.640 played a rather memorable game in that building. If you 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.760 go back to two thousand and four. There was a 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.720 piece in the l A Times this week because I 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.800 think the reporters there got Rogers on a conference call 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.480 and they asked him about it. Back in two thousand four. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:08.120 Rodgers is the quarterback. I think they did. I think 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.320 they did. We didn't get anybody. We got Sean McVeigh. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.720 But the Cal Bears were ranked seventh in the country. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.320 They were going into the coliseum to play number one 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:23.320 ranked and defending national champion USC and unfortunately, Aaron Rodgers 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.480 and Cal did not pull out the victory. But Rogers 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.880 actually completed twenty three consecutive passes in that game, which 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.840 at the time not only set a Cal school record, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.280 but tied the n c A record at the time 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.320 for consecutive completions. And at one point in that game 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.320 West he was and this is according to the l 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.080 A Time story I read, he was twenty nine of 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.720 thirty one and the two incompletions were throwaways when he 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.040 had to get out of the pocket. Now the game 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.440 came down to Rogers ended up driving the Bears down. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.200 I believe they got into a gold ghost situation right 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.440 in the final moments. They were down by six points 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.160 and then there was a sack and a play where 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.120 Rogers primary receiver like slipped in the end zone when 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:05.920 he was trying to make a cut to get open 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.600 and uh and it threw off the timing and the 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.440 past was incomplete and the number one ranked USC Trojans 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.640 escaped with with a six point victory. But um, Aaron Rodgers, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.560 he was quoted in that l A time story. He 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.080 remembers that game and you know his memory, he was 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.520 going through play by play and all this talking to 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:28.280 those reporters and um um, so he's going to have 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.920 a certain memory I think when even though it was 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.800 fourteen years ago, when he walks into that building on Sunday, 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:35.720 it would be interesting to see how he performed. Yeah, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.480 it will be. And and certainly there's a lot of 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.480 matchups there with the pack. Was that the Pack ten 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.440 at the time or that wasn't the twelve yet, wasn't 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.240 I don't even add that that part of the timeline. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.680 I'm not sure, but they might have been the Pack 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.200 twelve in two thousand four. But you know what, how 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.160 what those rivalries are like in California, Kenny Clark was 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.280 talking about it too, you know, with u C. L 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.479 A and what they were trying to build there, and 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.120 in that s C is always kind of seen as 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.080 one of the big dogs and and and sort of 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.600 being everyone else is kind of trying to be the 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.400 under what they're offering to the table and Rogers. That 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.280 doesn't surprise me at all. That's complete news to me. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.280 I don't recall that story, but the fact that he 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.160 was as accurate as he was and as effective as 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.640 he was, And I know there was some some you know, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.280 challenges they're trying to to lift up California during that time, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.240 but you know, you look at the quarterback he's become 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.000 and where he's taken his game from there. It's always 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.760 interesting when you can look back and see the signs 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.800 of that kind of success. Certainly, there's adjustments you have 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.280 to make in refinements to a game to succeed at 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.520 this level, but in the end, you always kind of 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.440 are who you are and and for him to have 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.760 a performance like that and be as accurate as he is, 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.480 it does kind of really speak to his level of 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.400 consistency and what he's brought to Green Bay now for 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.360 the last fourteen years. Yeah, well, it's uh, it's going 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.200 to be a historic day for the Packers. First time 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.520 back in that building in uh in quite some time. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:52.960 And as you said, you and I get to kind 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.080 of chalk another state. I mean, this is a stadium 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.920 that you know, has hosted Olympic games and all kinds 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.840 of other things. You know, historic as a sports venue, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.960 not just as a as a football stadium, but you 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.159 know the USC U c l A matchups that have 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.000 taken place there and and uh, you know that just 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.959 the history of the USC football program and and some 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.680 of the things that have that have gone on there 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.120 aside from the Rams and the Raiders and and when 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.440 they've played so uh um and as you said, probably 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.520 the last the last opportunity because they're building a what 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:28.000 sounds like absolutely amazing new stadium for both the Rams 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.520 and the Chargers out in Los Angeles, and uh and 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.919 with the Packers not necessarily playing those teams on a 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:37.000 regular basis, this is probably probably the one opportunity for us, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.159 you would think so, And that's why I thought it 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.600 was kind of neat, especially ushering in this new era 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.720 of having football back in Los Angeles, uh and being 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.720 able to to go out there and and cover some games. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.800 I mean, it's it's really interesting Mike, because you and 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.800 I both know what this is. Like. We go to 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.320 Washington what four times in the span of three years, 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.639 and you sort of get to know these areas and 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.720 where we're at, but used to it Los Angeles. I 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.080 honest to goodness, I've been there twice and three times 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:02.720 now in my lifetime. I you know, I don't know 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.760 it very well, so it's always neat to be able 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.880 to get a new experience and and for me personally now, Mike, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.840 I think I'm down to Energy. I think that's the 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.560 only stadium I haven't been at. I haven't covered a 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.600 game yet at Lucas Oil, but I've not been to 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.960 Energy at all, So, um, what is that going to 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.960 be two more years? I'll check that one off? Would 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.960 we would go to Houston there? So I I've actually 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.800 I don't think and maybe my parents would correct me 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.920 on this, depending on travel as a youth, but I 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.760 don't think I've actually ever been to Los Angeles except 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.960 for going through the airport like changing planes kind of thing. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.400 It's actually a city that I've never visited. So I'm 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.159 looking forward to just not only for what sounds like 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.840 eighty degree weather, but just getting out and walking around 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.160 and checking it out. The city itself is incredible. Talking 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.040 to some people who live down there, they basically say, 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.360 you have to pick out an area where you want 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.600 to live and that's kind of your community because you're 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.040 not going to be able to get anywhere else in 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.479 a you know, a meaningful time, you know, time sensitive fashion. 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.199