1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: west Hodkowits. We're coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West. It's our final show of the 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: week here leading up to Packers Rams on Sunday afternoon 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: from Los Angeles the Colosseum PM Central time kickoff and 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: on our final show of the week, we always focus 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: on the keys to victory now, but the Packers at three, 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: two and one and the Rams at seven and Oh, 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: the Packers have to do a lot of things well 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: in order to come away with a big road victory. Here. 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? Throw the records out 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: of it? Okay, that's the first thing you gotta do. Uh, 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: it has to be zero and zero first, zero zero. 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: You can't look at what the Rams have done, the stats, 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: everything that you've seen so far, the defensive player of 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: the year, the offensive player of the year, the production, 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: all of that. It's all about one game at the 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and being the better team on 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: that day. That has to be the focus. I thought 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: in our final our final thoughts video not to give 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: anyway any spoilers, but you made such a great point. 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers needs to be the best player on the 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: field that day. I think the Packers need to win 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: the early first and down, second down situations. Offensively, get 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: yourself in second and manageable get yourself into third and 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: short in those instances, and defensively, you have to be 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: able to stop Todd Gurley. That's where it starts. They're 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna get their place, they're gonna get their production, and 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: they'll probably get their points, but you have to be 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: able to contain him. The more he goes off as 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: a pass catcher as a runner, the harder and longer 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: that day is going to be. But it all starts, 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: in my opinion, Michael, with not looking at underdog, not 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: looking at you know, lines, looking at the opponent that's 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: in front of you, in figuring out a way to 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: beat them over the span of folk. Yeah, I think 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: what you say about the early downs really is important 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball here, because when you 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: look at what Todd Gurley does for this offense. We've 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: heard all week long about all of the misdirection and 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: keeping your eyes in the right place and all of 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: these kinds of things. As far as defensively, how you 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: try to contain this Rams team, Well, that all starts 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: with the way Todd Gurley runs the ball and how 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: they set up play action off of that running game. So, 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: as you said, if you can win the early downs 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: and get them into more of a drop back passing 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: team as opposed to a play action passing team, that 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: gives your defense at least a little bit more of 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: an advantage to try to stay with those weapons, try 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: to get after Jared Goffin and disrupt him a little bit, 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: maybe get him get his timing um a little bit disrupted. 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball. With the Packers, 55 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: we mentioned it earlier this week because Aaron Rodgers brought 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: it up. The inordinate number of third and longs, the 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: third and eleven plus is the third and fifteen plus 58 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: is that the Packers have been in Hey. That all 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: comes down to again winning on first and second down. 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: It's about getting the running game going. It's about cutting 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: down on the penalties, it's about cutting down on the sacks. 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: Whatever the negative plays that have happened that have put 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: the Packers in those situations, those are the things that 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: that that have to be cleaned up, because, boy, I 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: tell you this pass rush Aaron Donald four sacks you know, 66 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: as part of a seven sack effort against the San 67 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners. You don't want to be in third 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: and eleven plus against anybody, but against this pass rush, 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: in this defense and on the road, that's a that's 70 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: a potential recipe, recipe for disaster. You don't want to 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: let Aaron Donald, you don't want to let Sue be 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: able to jet rush up the medal. You have to 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: be able to keep them honest. You can't let them 74 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: just jumping off the snap of the ball and trying 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: to get in the backfield. That is the recipe for success. 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: When you look at their defense and how they're able 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: to affect the quarterback and honestly, Mike kind of affect 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: the running game two of the opposing team. I think 79 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: that's what makes them pretty special is that they are disciplined, 80 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: they are explosive, and they don't get out of their 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: gaps and and the the one thing I do think 82 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: about a lot when I go into this game, when 83 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: I was looking more and more at the matchup, is 84 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: the fact that I do believe it does start with 85 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: the run for the Packers, not only because Mike McCarthy 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: has been talking all week about the need to get 87 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: more touches of the backs, but also when you look 88 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: at the rams, I mean, the teams that have been 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: able to have success at least in terms of moving 90 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: the ball, have been able to win those early down situations. 91 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: Their twelve right now in total run against the run, 92 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: everything else they do is top ten in those major 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: statistical categories. So they have to be able to Packers 94 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: have to be able to to move the ball a 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: little bit and ease the burden on Aaron Rodgers in 96 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: those tackles. Because I think with this game one of 97 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: the other things that really a lot of people are 98 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: talking about And I could end up being completely wrong 99 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: on this, and if I am in the press box, 100 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: you can tell me I'm an idiot on game day. 101 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: But I think there's a good chance this could be 102 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: a road home road game for the Packers. Oh, they're 103 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of Packers fans there, there's no 104 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: question people I've talked to it's an eight five venue. 105 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: I heard a lot of stuff Mike on secondary market, 106 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: people talking about how the week earlier in the week 107 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: after at the policy and those tickets are going for 108 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: anywhere from like thirty bucks to ninety they're well into 109 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: the three figures for this matchup with the Packers. There's 110 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: a lot of cheeseheads out on the West Coast, and 111 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys out there in gals as 112 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: well that don't get to watch them play a lot. 113 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: So if that environment, if you can get that on 114 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: your side early on, whether it's the run, whether it's 115 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: the past, whether it's just some good stops early on, 116 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: there's a chance to really ride some momentum. Because when 117 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: I look at those games so far in Washington and Detroit, 118 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: those crowds were able to get into it early, and 119 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: that is not a good thing when you're going on 120 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: the road trying to you know, pull the upset. Yeah, 121 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: and as much as I agree with you about what 122 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the Packers need to do with their running game and 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: easing the burden as much as they can on Aaron Rodgers, 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I still think it does come down to Aaron Rodgers 125 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: being the best player on the field on Sunday. We've 126 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: seen We've seen these types of games before West where 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: whether it's against a division rival like the Minnesota Vikings, 128 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: where a guy like Adrian Peterson or a guy like 129 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith on defense has clearly been the best player 130 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: on the field that day, the guy who tilts the field. 131 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: We've seen it with the Packers and Aaron Rodgers when 132 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, as we brought up earlier this week, the 133 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve game at Houston when Houston had J. J. 134 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: Watt and that defense, and Arian Foster was the league's 135 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: leading rusher at the time, and the Texans were five 136 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: and oh and Aaron Rodgers went in and through six 137 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: touchdown passes and was hands down the best player on 138 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: the football field that night in Houston. The Packers need 139 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to be that guy that tilts the field 140 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: in this game because Aaron Donald is the reigning defensive 141 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: player of the Year and he's tied currently for the 142 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: league leading sex. Todd Gurley is the reigning offensive player 143 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: of the year. He is currently the league's leading rusher. 144 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: Jared Goff has a passer rating right now that is 145 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: above a hundred and ten. He's in the m v 146 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: P conversation. In this mid season uh stretch here with 147 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: the Rams being undefeated, Aaron Rodgers has to be that 148 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: guy who gets it done for the Packers on Sunday. 149 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: And if he's got all of his weapons on offense, 150 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: if the Packers are in better shape on defense in 151 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: the secondary, as we talked about on our last show, 152 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: with the injuries and hopefully healthwise things coming around, this 153 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: is going to give their Packers. Give the Packers their 154 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: best shot. Yeah, and another thing that they'll be able 155 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: to do regardless of what the game plan is, regardless 156 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: of how on things unfold. But if you're able to 157 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers going, if you get him comfortable earlier, 158 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: you get them moving the ball offensively, what's the number 159 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: one thing that happens to the Rams defense? It's right 160 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: up there. They start thinking, yeah, and the Packers they 161 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: have a checkered past here with Wade Phillips. You look 162 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: back to what happened against Dallas in two thousand and ten, 163 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: that was the last game he coached for the Cowboys. 164 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: Then you look at what happened I believe it was 165 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, and that that performance that he 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: had with the Denver Broncos, what he was able to 167 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: do in that game. Both sides have won in this 168 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: rivalry with him. He's one of the brightest, one of 169 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: the most longest tendered defensive minds in this game, and 170 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: he's found a way to make those pieces fit in 171 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: with the rams they've had. You go back, Mike, what 172 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: they're doing offensively, this is relatively new. There was a 173 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: lot of years where they were struggling to get points. 174 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of years where they're struggling to move 175 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the ball down field. But defensively they've always had some playmakers. 176 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: I think what Wade Phillips has brought to them is 177 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: a vision of where they need to be in what 178 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: they can do with these guys. How can Aaron Aaron 179 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: Donald take over football games? What can he do to 180 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: make the entire team better? And they felt like Sue 181 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: was obviously a part of that. Michael Brocker's he has 182 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: a role in that defense. He knows what his job, 183 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: duty and his responsibilities are. They play well within the 184 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: scheme and it's gonna be on the Packers when you 185 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: look at it, going out there and trying to set 186 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: the tone early to make those defenders start to think, 187 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: because I think that's where they've had success in these 188 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: matchups lately. They started making the fort think in that matchup, 189 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: during that rally, they started making the Chicago Bears think 190 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: when they go back to that opener and what they 191 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: were able to do, you can't let them get into 192 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: a groove. Yeah, and let's see here with with Los 193 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. They are seven and oh yes they've won 194 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: some close games, but have they had to come from behind? 195 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: Have they Have they played from seven points down or 196 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: ten points down at any point in a ballgame? You know, 197 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: the Packers have been talking about can they get out 198 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: can they get out to a fast start? You flip 199 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: the script a little bit on an undefeated team that 200 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: that is rolling and is winning in a certain way. 201 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: If you get them out of there, get them out 202 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: of their game just a little bit, then you know, 203 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: suddenly in the fourth quarter, there you are with a 204 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: shot for the upset. It's a great point, Mike. And 205 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: the other thing you can't dismiss either. Jared Goff is 206 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: playing some good football right now, but he's still a 207 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: third year quarterback. You look at what Denver did to him, 208 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: completion percentage, had a turnover, got sacked five times. There 209 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: is a blueprint there. But the thing you have to 210 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: make sure you do and I've discussed this all week. 211 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: You can't forsake defending Todd Gurley to do that, because 212 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: girl is the guy who won that game. Is the 213 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: guy that won that game. That's the allens, and that's 214 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: the challenge, and that's the chess match going into the 215 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Colisseum on Sunday afternoon, no question about it. Well, quickly, 216 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: a little sponsored business here, West, It's time to enter 217 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: the Cousins Subs Best Seats in the House promotion. You 218 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: and a guest could win a chance to kick back 219 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: on the fifty yard line in style. Two pairs of 220 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: lucky Packers fans will be chosen prior to each home 221 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: game for this v I P experience. 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The Packers have not been to 232 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: the l A Colisseum since when they played a game 233 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: against the then l A Ray Leaders there. They have 234 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: not played the Rams. They have not played the Rams. 235 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: They haven't played the Rams at the coliseum in forty 236 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: years was the last time. Here's an interesting piece of 237 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: the history here of the Packers at the Los Angeles 238 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: Memorial Coliseum, and it's not a good one. West. The 239 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: Packers have played thirty games there in their history. Back 240 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: through the forties and fifties they played out there, and 241 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: through most of the sixties they played out there every year. 242 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: The Rams were in what was then the Western Conference 243 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: before the whole alignment into divisions, so the Packers had 244 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: a game at the Colisseum every year. The Packers have 245 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: only won two games in their history at the Colisseum 246 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: when they're not coached by Vince Lombardi. Yeah, Vince Lombardi 247 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: went seven two and one, including Super Bowl One, the 248 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: big victory over the Chiefs at the l A Colisseum. 249 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi went seven too and one in ten games 250 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: at the Colosseum. The Packers have played twenty other games 251 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: at the Colosseum with other coaches to and eighteen. Yes, 252 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: it's ugly. I'm gonna counter with one thing, Okay, So 253 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: then that was what that was before nine in after 254 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, right, So there's there, You're you're you're absolutely 255 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. But it's it's what 256 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: when you look at when you look at it statistically, 257 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: you're just like, what in the world? And was Lynda 258 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: and Fante bringing him out there a day early to 259 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: get acclimated it away in Fante he actually won the 260 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: game against the Raiders in that was that was the 261 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: that was that was the last time the Packers were 262 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: in that building. That was the second victory by a 263 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: non Lombardi coached Packers team out there. It's impressive. Well, 264 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, I missed that in my American history class 265 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: and when I was at Bayport. But what is impressive 266 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: though about this going back? I don't know how you 267 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: feel about it, but I really am big on sports 268 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: history and in being able to get to all these stadiums, 269 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: and I think it is pretty cool that we get 270 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: to check it off at least my bucket list. In 271 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: terms of and what very well could be within building 272 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 1: that massive state, and it end up might be in 273 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: the last and only time we get an opportunity to 274 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: do that. Um. But it was interesting you worked on 275 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: the story, but it was interesting hearing some of these 276 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: guys discuss it this week that have played there, like 277 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark saying sort of has a medieval vibe to 278 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: it a little bit with the clock and the old 279 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: school sort of architecture, and Clay Matthews Nick Perry certainly 280 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: have a long storied history there as well. It's a 281 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: different type of venue and it's going to be interesting 282 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: to see exactly how the Packers react to it, because 283 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: I really, honestly, Mike, there isn't too many that are 284 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: like in the NFL in terms of how it's built 285 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: and how it's structured. Yeah, well, here's a positive turn 286 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: to the history there because Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers actually 287 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: played a rather memorable game in that building. If you 288 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: go back to two thousand and four. There was a 289 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: piece in the l A Times this week because I 290 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: think the reporters there got Rogers on a conference call 291 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: and they asked him about it. Back in two thousand four. 292 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: Rodgers is the quarterback. I think they did. I think 293 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: they did. We didn't get anybody. We got Sean McVeigh. 294 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: But the Cal Bears were ranked seventh in the country. 295 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: They were going into the coliseum to play number one 296 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: ranked and defending national champion USC and unfortunately, Aaron Rodgers 297 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: and Cal did not pull out the victory. But Rogers 298 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: actually completed twenty three consecutive passes in that game, which 299 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: at the time not only set a Cal school record, 300 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: but tied the n c A record at the time 301 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: for consecutive completions. And at one point in that game 302 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: West he was and this is according to the l 303 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: A Time story I read, he was twenty nine of 304 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: thirty one and the two incompletions were throwaways when he 305 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: had to get out of the pocket. Now the game 306 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: came down to Rogers ended up driving the Bears down. 307 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I believe they got into a gold ghost situation right 308 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: in the final moments. They were down by six points 309 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: and then there was a sack and a play where 310 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: Rogers primary receiver like slipped in the end zone when 311 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: he was trying to make a cut to get open 312 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: and uh and it threw off the timing and the 313 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: past was incomplete and the number one ranked USC Trojans 314 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: escaped with with a six point victory. But um, Aaron Rodgers, 315 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: he was quoted in that l A time story. He 316 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: remembers that game and you know his memory, he was 317 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: going through play by play and all this talking to 318 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: those reporters and um um, so he's going to have 319 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: a certain memory I think when even though it was 320 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: fourteen years ago, when he walks into that building on Sunday, 321 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see how he performed. Yeah, 322 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: it will be. And and certainly there's a lot of 323 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: matchups there with the pack. Was that the Pack ten 324 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: at the time or that wasn't the twelve yet, wasn't 325 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't even add that that part of the timeline. 326 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but they might have been the Pack 327 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: twelve in two thousand four. But you know what, how 328 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: what those rivalries are like in California, Kenny Clark was 329 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: talking about it too, you know, with u C. L 330 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 1: A and what they were trying to build there, and 331 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: in that s C is always kind of seen as 332 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: one of the big dogs and and and sort of 333 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: being everyone else is kind of trying to be the 334 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: under what they're offering to the table and Rogers. That 335 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all. That's complete news to me. 336 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't recall that story, but the fact that he 337 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: was as accurate as he was and as effective as 338 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: he was, And I know there was some some you know, 339 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: challenges they're trying to to lift up California during that time, 340 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: but you know, you look at the quarterback he's become 341 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: and where he's taken his game from there. It's always 342 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: interesting when you can look back and see the signs 343 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: of that kind of success. Certainly, there's adjustments you have 344 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: to make in refinements to a game to succeed at 345 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: this level, but in the end, you always kind of 346 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: are who you are and and for him to have 347 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: a performance like that and be as accurate as he is, 348 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: it does kind of really speak to his level of 349 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: consistency and what he's brought to Green Bay now for 350 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: the last fourteen years. Yeah, well, it's uh, it's going 351 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: to be a historic day for the Packers. First time 352 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: back in that building in uh in quite some time. 353 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: And as you said, you and I get to kind 354 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: of chalk another state. I mean, this is a stadium 355 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: that you know, has hosted Olympic games and all kinds 356 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: of other things. You know, historic as a sports venue, 357 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: not just as a as a football stadium, but you 358 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: know the USC U c l A matchups that have 359 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: taken place there and and uh, you know that just 360 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: the history of the USC football program and and some 361 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: of the things that have that have gone on there 362 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: aside from the Rams and the Raiders and and when 363 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: they've played so uh um and as you said, probably 364 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: the last the last opportunity because they're building a what 365 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: sounds like absolutely amazing new stadium for both the Rams 366 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: and the Chargers out in Los Angeles, and uh and 367 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: with the Packers not necessarily playing those teams on a 368 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: regular basis, this is probably probably the one opportunity for us, 369 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: you would think so, And that's why I thought it 370 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: was kind of neat, especially ushering in this new era 371 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: of having football back in Los Angeles, uh and being 372 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: able to to go out there and and cover some games. 373 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's really interesting Mike, because you and 374 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: I both know what this is. Like. We go to 375 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: Washington what four times in the span of three years, 376 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: and you sort of get to know these areas and 377 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: where we're at, but used to it Los Angeles. I 378 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: honest to goodness, I've been there twice and three times 379 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: now in my lifetime. I you know, I don't know 380 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: it very well, so it's always neat to be able 381 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: to get a new experience and and for me personally now, Mike, 382 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm down to Energy. I think that's the 383 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: only stadium I haven't been at. I haven't covered a 384 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: game yet at Lucas Oil, but I've not been to 385 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Energy at all, So, um, what is that going to 386 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: be two more years? I'll check that one off? Would 387 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: we would go to Houston there? So I I've actually 388 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't think and maybe my parents would correct me 389 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: on this, depending on travel as a youth, but I 390 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: don't think I've actually ever been to Los Angeles except 391 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: for going through the airport like changing planes kind of thing. 392 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: It's actually a city that I've never visited. So I'm 393 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: looking forward to just not only for what sounds like 394 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: eighty degree weather, but just getting out and walking around 395 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: and checking it out. The city itself is incredible. Talking 396 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: to some people who live down there, they basically say, 397 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: you have to pick out an area where you want 398 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: to live and that's kind of your community because you're 399 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: not going to be able to get anywhere else in 400 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: a you know, a meaningful time, you know, time sensitive fashion. 401 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: So but but it's cool and it's it's knee to 402 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: be able to have that experience. And I'll be honest 403 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: with you, Mike, and there'll be a moment or two 404 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: I'll take before the kickoff on Sunday to sort of 405 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: appreciate what we're looking at. And in the fact that 406 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: with that storied history you were discussing, you know, that 407 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: might be the final chapter with them at the Coliseum. Yeah, 408 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: all right, Well with that, we will call it a 409 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: rap on this edition and this week of Packers Unscript 410 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: would be sure to follow all of our coverage of 411 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: the team and of Sunday's game from Beautiful l A 412 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: on Packers dot com on Twitter, He's at West Hot 413 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. 414 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time.