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Speaker 2: All right, let's head right to the podium and Kevin

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Speaker 2: Stefanski there now.

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Speaker 3: All right, First, Tony, Kevin, can you give a better

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Speaker 3: explanation of why dtr was activated ahead of Winston and

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Speaker 3: did he get enough practice time to be prepared for

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Speaker 3: seeing action?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like we talked about yesterday, Tony, I

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Speaker 4: think going into the season, I felt like both guys

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Speaker 4: were worthy of being the backup quarterback. I told those

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Speaker 4: having that short yardage package with Jamis in this last game,

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Speaker 4: felt like Dorian had acquitted himself well in practice and

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Speaker 4: in his preparation make him the backup.

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Speaker 5: That's really that's the story.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is it was the first time

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Speaker 3: we saw Deshaun on the snake. Why did you make

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Speaker 3: the decision that he would execute that play rather than Winston?

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Speaker 2: And during the week you made that decision obviously.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, again, that's something that Jamis obviously has done well

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Speaker 4: in his career, but not having him up in the game,

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Speaker 4: then it just became Deshaun would do.

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Speaker 6: That, okay, all right?

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Speaker 7: Next to it to Scott.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Kevin.

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Speaker 8: When it comes to Dorian or is the information you're

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Speaker 8: looking for whether or not he's going to need surgery

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Speaker 8: on the finger.

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Speaker 4: I'd say all the above. Just need to hear from

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Speaker 4: a couple other people. But I feel good about him

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Speaker 4: next week?

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Speaker 5: I just need more information, gotcha?

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Speaker 8: And do you know which kind of surgery Deshaun's going

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Speaker 5: I do not know?

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Speaker 8: Okay, thanks, all right.

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Speaker 6: Next we're going to Ashley.

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Speaker 7: I been just I guess what's the reaction from the

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Speaker 7: than twenty four hours now, just another obviously big personnel

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Speaker 7: loss for you guys with DeShawn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's obviously. We're disappointed when we lose anybody Ashley

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Speaker 4: to injuries. That's a very very very unfortunate part of

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Speaker 4: Deshaun in this case, feel bad to lose him for

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Speaker 4: the season. And we also know as a football team,

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Speaker 4: this is where you have to step up. Guys have

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Speaker 7: And then since you got asked about Dorian a little

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Speaker 7: bit already, but if it is Jamis that's starting next week.

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Speaker 7: Just what you've seen from him in his time here

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jamis has done a nice job really going all

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Speaker 4: the way back to since he's gotten here, understanding how

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Speaker 9: All right, Next to me, Mary Kay, Yeah, I know

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Speaker 9: you don't know yet, Kevin, if you would start Dorian,

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Speaker 9: but what because of the health of his finger and everything,

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Speaker 9: But what would be maybe some reasons that you would

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Speaker 9: want to see him more this season? Do you guys

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Speaker 9: have to figure out if he can be your quarterback

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand the question, Mary Kay. I'm not really

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Speaker 4: My thought process is really day to day in this

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Speaker 10: Okay, thanks, all right?

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Speaker 11: Next to Jeff, Hey, Kevin, more of a big picture question,

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Speaker 11: if you can look back to the begining, where do

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Speaker 11: you think this season went sideways when everybody expected so

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand the question, Jeff. I'm not really in

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Speaker 4: that mode yet. That's for end of the season type things.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you this sports, this is football, teaches.

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Speaker 5: You a lot about yourself. You don't always get what

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Speaker 4: You put in a lot of work and you don't

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Speaker 4: always get that result you want, but you just have

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Speaker 5: That's really where we're focused.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, all right to Daniel, Yes, I gotcha.

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Speaker 12: Now, Yeah, Kevin, I know you know, throughout the start

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Speaker 12: to the season you had defended and kind of supported

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Speaker 12: DeShawn as a starting quarterback in your opinion and your

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Speaker 12: kind of viewpoint. The team said he you expected for recovering.

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Speaker 12: When he does come back, is it still your belief

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously I believe in DeShawn, But I also think

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Speaker 4: it's important just to acknowledge that he just had a

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Speaker 4: But not getting into all those things down the road,

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I'm looking forward to him getting the

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Speaker 13: Right, Darryl, Yeah, Kevin, I want to go back to

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Speaker 13: Dtr as the number two quarterback for a moment. You

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Speaker 13: said yesterday that the backup quarterbacks they don't get reps

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Speaker 13: you prepare a guy for a potential package usage in

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Speaker 13: a game if they don't get those reps. One more time, Daryl,

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Speaker 13: I'm just wondering how you prepare Dtr for that package

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Speaker 13: him to the number two quarterback. Just how do you

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Speaker 13: prepare him for that if he's not getting those first

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to be clear then, so art Ones

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Speaker 4: get the all the reps in practice. If there's a

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Speaker 5: This was not.

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Speaker 4: The decision to put Dorian as a number two was

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Speaker 4: not because of a pack a certain package of plays.

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Speaker 4: We didn't have a specific set of plays for Dorian

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Speaker 4: I guess to be clear, Jamis had a short yardage

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Speaker 13: Okay, thanks for clarifying that. And then I know you

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Speaker 13: How do you get this thing on track or keep

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Speaker 13: as you know in the locker room with player frustrations

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think all anybody anytime, Daryl, when when you lose, uh,

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Speaker 5: There's there's pain in that. Uh. And and we don't

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Speaker 4: But our guys understand that our goal is just to win,

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Speaker 4: just just we want to win this game, this next

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Speaker 4: and all we can focus on, all we can control

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Speaker 4: is this next one. Can't do anything about what's happened

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Speaker 14: Next to what it cam Kevin, It's maybe a little

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Speaker 14: similar to Daryl's question, but you know, after the game yesterday,

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Speaker 14: a lot of players were voicing their frustrations with maybe

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Speaker 14: the reaction from Deshaun's injury. So I just wonder, as

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Speaker 14: making sure that that doesn't spiral into anything more than

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't Our guys are certainly supporting their teammate.

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Speaker 4: I understand the emotions of it. Like I mentioned yesterday,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a place for booing players that

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Speaker 4: are injured, whether it's your own team the opponents. I

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Speaker 14: And then on another note, Nick Chubb obviously his first

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he came out okay.

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Speaker 4: I think it's important again that he, you know, builds

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Speaker 5: Thank you, all right.

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Speaker 6: Next to Chris.

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Speaker 5: Kevin quick real quick questions.

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Speaker 10: One, will you guys sign another quarterback? Add another quarterback

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Speaker 10: either to the active roster or the or the practice squad.

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Speaker 4: I think yes, but not exactly sure where that goes

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Speaker 10: Also, you mentioned Jack at the or the end of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was dealing with something, but I think he

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Speaker 5: Thanks all right.

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Speaker 7: Next we to Spencer.

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Speaker 5: Hey coach.

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Speaker 15: First off, just obviously another week where pre snap penalties

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Speaker 15: last week kind of asked to Sean just like what

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Speaker 15: how much of that from a coaching standpoint can can

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Speaker 15: you guys do to fix those problems that continue to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something that you emphasize and practice, you certainly

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Speaker 4: emphasize in meetings, you emphasize during the game. Those are

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Speaker 4: totally self inflicted. Nothing that the defense is doing. It's

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Speaker 4: multiple guys that have to understand that. The way they

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Speaker 5: And we have to be better.

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Speaker 4: And it really is ultimately my responsibility, but it's responsibility

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Speaker 4: of our coaches, our players to play within these rules

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Speaker 15: And then we know how much this offense was kind

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Speaker 15: of geared between you and Ken sort of signing it

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Speaker 16: How much can you change?

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Speaker 15: Do you change if you go from Toshaun to to

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Speaker 15: Dorian to Jamis What does that kind of look like?

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Speaker 15: Is there are different things you can sort of institute

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to do that as an offense.

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Speaker 4: Is you're you're always leaning into what your quarterbacks are

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Speaker 4: most comfortable with. So that'll be true certainly moving forward.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Kevin.

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Speaker 17: wanted to ask you about a specific play. Jedwick will

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Speaker 18: Yeah, Kevin, how hard was it to get a true

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Speaker 18: But can you assess it all how I mean, how

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean we were headed.

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Speaker 20: It feels like into this direction. Obviously not the injury

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Speaker 2: I did it. I saw. I saw Ken Coleman say

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Speaker 20: After that it was all very good leading their leading receiver,

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Speaker 21: You we're not going to have that.

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Speaker 20: No, but this this is yesterday on the broadcast, and

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Speaker 19: It is unfathomable.

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Speaker 20: To think that we would be here in reality, when

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Speaker 19: And now we have played a divisional game, which we

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Speaker 20: I think you're getting to the point now in this

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Speaker 20: I don't think you would listen to anything at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, stack them.

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Speaker 19: And that's good.

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Speaker 20: That's going to be you know, the way that you

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Speaker 19: My math, I think it's right, five in a row,

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Speaker 19: It's terribly depressing.

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Speaker 20: It is a situation that, as I said, kind of unfathomable.

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Speaker 20: It was shocking to see that the Browns, this is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were great.

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Speaker 19: They're over eight at one point.

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Speaker 2: Did they end up like three of eighteen or something,

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Speaker 20: Whatever it was, it was very good, and it was

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Speaker 20: So you know, you've got some things here that are

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Speaker 20: And I think, you know, obviously quarter will start the

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Speaker 2: For a while, the only possible yes, yeah, internal, yes, internal.

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Speaker 20: A rookie deal, for example, should you know if Jamis

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Speaker 20: DTR has got a little bit of a fing issue.

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Speaker 20: So I'm thinking finger issue. Raven's coming to town. No,

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Speaker 20: give me play Jamis the next two weeks, and look,

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Speaker 20: to start eight games of DTR to say, okay, can

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Speaker 20: Dorny Thompson Robinson be are party because the Niners and

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Speaker 20: By the way, great week for you, good job, thanks.

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Speaker 19: I was middling. But once we once we.

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Speaker 20: Diversified our portfolios, iron was unkind to.

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Speaker 2: You, boy, Yes, so we were, Yeah, that's what we were.

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Speaker 19: We were in lockstep and then we.

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Speaker 2: Split the split off Mostan.

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Speaker 20: Francisco and Pittsburgh and the Jets and the later window.

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Speaker 2: I was the later window, unkind.

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Speaker 20: To me, right, well look oh and uh oh yeah

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Speaker 19: So you got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight.

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Speaker 20: I'm six up, ye, But you San Francisco pulled out

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Speaker 2: He's literally the last player picked and then they stumbled

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Speaker 20: Now it is not the case here that over the

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Speaker 2: I think we all have to understand that.

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Speaker 20: I do think that that's that is the internal solution

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Speaker 20: Most recent estimates were either nine point underdogs to the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Or in that realm. Yeah, last time it happened nineteen

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Speaker 20: Okay, so that's long fifty four years as a long

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that's what makes this This is just

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Like this?

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Speaker 2: An achilles? Kids like this is this is this is

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Speaker 2: Can he play football? Like yes? Who knows how long ago?

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Speaker 2: He's not the.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not. He can't move.

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Speaker 19: He's They had that game one.

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Speaker 20: They were about to go into that game and be

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Speaker 20: It was fifteen to six, fifteen to six, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: They got slumped, slumped, yes they did. Yes, he's got

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Speaker 2: that chance of it. But like you were stud now

446
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Speaker 2: stacking several catastrophic type injuries on top of one after

447
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Speaker 2: another after another. So like the difference with who knows,

448
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: I guess my point is he was buying large of

449
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 2: a pocket passer before him. And that's a great point, Dashawn,

450
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: not not no, No, he was always going to be

451
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Speaker 2: uh you know, someone in out outside the pocket, eyes up,

452
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: making plays down the field. All of that. It's not

453
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Speaker 2: just a conversation now, just from a football perspective, it's

454
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Speaker 2: not a conversation. I think you laid out a really

455
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Speaker 2: brilliant plan for DTR in terms of what would make

456
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Speaker 2: the most sense for the rest of the season. Who

457
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Speaker 2: knows what Kevin Spans is going to do with it.

458
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Speaker 2: But it's also like your off season, your off season plan,

459
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: next year's training camp, what offense are you building for?

460
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Speaker 2: For what quarterback? Like everything, we thought we were in

461
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: the middle at the acquisition of Deshaun Watson. You thought

462
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Speaker 2: you were going to enter into a super Bowl window.

463
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Speaker 2: That was the expectation. You You were signing the number

464
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Speaker 2: one quarterback in the NFL the last time he played

465
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: led the league in quarterback rating. That's who you signed.

466
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Speaker 2: And then he was the all time leader. He was

467
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Speaker 2: the people think that's I'm like, I tell people, no, no,

468
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: he was. That's what he was. So now that is

469
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Speaker 2: by the time and who knows if he plays next year,

470
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Speaker 2: who knows what that even looks like. You're like five

471
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Speaker 2: years removed from that. I mean, it's it's who he

472
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Speaker 2: was at acquisition and what you thought you were getting.

473
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Speaker 2: You thought you were entering into a championship window where

474
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Speaker 2: it was like all of our young stars were coming

475
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Speaker 2: into their own, into their prime. All at the same

476
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Speaker 2: time you had these young guys who are coming up

477
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Speaker 2: second contracts for Joka and Delpit and everything was kind

478
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Speaker 2: of coming together and then all of a sudden, now

479
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: it's exploded, and I people, what do we do now?

480
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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I think you laid out a

481
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Speaker 2: very good plan. I don't know what what Kevin and

482
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Speaker 2: ab and and Paul what they're playing. This is just

483
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Speaker 2: us spitballing because I don't have to. I think what

484
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Speaker 2: you did, what you laid out, makes all the sense

485
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Speaker 2: in the world. But I don't know. I don't know

486
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Speaker 2: what this looks like. And I don't think anything here

487
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: would be guesswork at this point in terms of what

488
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: this week looks like, with the next three weeks look

489
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: looks like three months, six months, nine months, it's all

490
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Speaker 2: in play. I don't know. It is not the brochure.

491
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Speaker 20: No, this was a team that was built to contend

492
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Speaker 20: for a championship. And you think about the investment that's

493
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 20: been made into it by ownership who has spared no expense.

494
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Speaker 20: You talk about cash overcap all of it. And that's

495
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 20: the one thing again that drives me nuts. And I'll

496
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 20: say it again for people who still don't believe it.

497
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Speaker 20: It's one hundred percent true. The Haslms have provided every

498
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Speaker 20: available resource and amenity for this coaching staff, for the players,

499
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Speaker 20: for the front offs, for everybody to execute their vision

500
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Speaker 20: of what the twenty twenty four Cleveland Browns should be.

501
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Speaker 20: And they don't make decisions. That's their decision. We will

502
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Speaker 20: support you.

503
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Speaker 4: You.

504
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Speaker 20: Our guys are running it and it has not worked.

505
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 20: And so you are at a little bit of a

506
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 20: crossroads here in terms of this season is clear clearly

507
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 20: not going to be what you had thought it was

508
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 20: going to be.

509
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Speaker 19: So what do we do going forward?

510
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Speaker 20: And unfortunately this is familiar for Browns fans, but was

511
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 20: not supposed to be familiar this year. You are right now,

512
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 20: I think playing the rest of twenty twenty four with

513
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 20: one foot in twenty twenty four and one foot in

514
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Speaker 20: twenty twenty five and beyond, because that's just the reality

515
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 20: of where you are one and six in the division.

516
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 20: You're behind every your last in your division. That just

517
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 20: has to be the reality of it. So what does

518
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 20: that mean to me? It starts with the quarterback position.

519
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 20: Jameis Winston at this point in his career is not

520
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 20: going to be a long term solution. No DTR fifth

521
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 20: round pick. I believe in him, I like him a lot,

522
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 20: do I know that he can be that. I don't,

523
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 20: but we have to see and see if he can

524
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Speaker 20: make it through eight games because last time Joe Flack olen,

525
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 20: he becomes a thing because he gets hurt against Denver. Now,

526
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 20: if he doesn't get hurt, maybe Joe Flacco doesn't happen,

527
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 20: and maybe DTR has a good Who knows what happens.

528
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 20: But I'm glad that your worked out the way he

529
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 20: did because Flaco Feever sure has had a lot of fun. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 20: DTR is the one guy in our building that has

531
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Speaker 20: an opportunity because of where he is on his rookie

532
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 20: salary to give you kind of that two year bridge

533
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 20: to whatever it is now. It very well may be

534
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 20: that you're drafting a quarterback early in the draft next year.

535
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Speaker 20: That is totally possible and likely at this point, right

536
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 20: And I think that's the thing with DTR too. You

537
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 20: find out, okay, can he do it? And if the

538
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 20: answer is no, that probably will lead to a record

539
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 20: that allows you to be at the top.

540
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Speaker 2: Anyway.

541
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Speaker 19: I hope he can. I think it would be a

542
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 19: great story. I like the kid a great deal.

543
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Speaker 20: I have a great deal respect for Dorrin Thompson Robinson,

544
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 20: the way he conduct himself, the way he goes about

545
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 20: his business, his leadership. You could tell him getting on

546
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 20: the field energize the sideline yesterday. And I still go

547
00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 20: back and think that that fourth down play change the

548
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 20: whole game. There was some momentumrom the Browns. Obviously, another

549
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 20: missed extra point at a very important time, and de Hop,

550
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 20: you know, got to his credit he and he goes

551
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 20: and speaks to me and he says, I blew it.

552
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: I messed up, owns it.

553
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 20: But that fourth down play, you complete that, and what

554
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 20: it comes down to is Deontay Foreman missing a block

555
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 20: on Von Bell. You make that block, it's an easy

556
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 20: pitch and catch to chob The play call worked, uh,

557
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 20: And you know, maybe it is a different game because

558
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 20: that was the momentum flip. And then they go down

559
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 20: to Higgins on the slant, breaks Cam Mitchell's tackle, it's

560
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 20: a touchdown. You get the Chase touchdown, and then it's

561
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Speaker 20: a you know that that's it. It's a totally different

562
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 20: ball game at that point. But I think that's gotta

563
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 20: be the idea. And guys, like I said, guys like

564
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 20: Zadarius and people that you can trade to recoup assets

565
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 20: without having big dead cap hits are probably the most

566
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Speaker 20: prime candidates.

567
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Speaker 19: It's like in the NBA, you know you trade your

568
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 19: expiring can absolutely.

569
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Speaker 20: Yeah, So people who don't have guaranteed money left, that's

570
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 20: where you're going to be looking. I think to move

571
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Speaker 20: and you know, this feels like a time and I'll

572
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 20: even say a name a guy that and this would

573
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 20: to me be up to what he wanted. Sure, But

574
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 20: like Joel Bitonio, I think Joe the Hoff under truth serum,

575
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 20: would he have liked to have gone down that parallel

576
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 20: universe and go and play with Peyton Manning and win

577
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 20: a Super Bowl in Denver?

578
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Speaker 2: And when I asked him, yes, he blew his brain.

579
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Speaker 2: He never even had the idea to think about it

580
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: in his head. And then when you say it to

581
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Speaker 2: him and you say what if, and then you envision

582
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Speaker 2: all that could have come with that.

583
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Speaker 5: Right?

584
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Speaker 20: Do you give Joel Bitonia the opportunity if he says,

585
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Speaker 20: how I want to finish my great love to have

586
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 20: you he's battling out there.

587
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah he is.

588
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Speaker 20: He's you know, he's been in the league for a

589
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 20: great deal of time. You could tell he's got some

590
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 20: some you know, maladies that he's dealing with.

591
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Speaker 19: He's given you all he.

592
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 20: Got so only allowed one pressure yesterday, but there are

593
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 20: times where he got you know, had some tough situations

594
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 20: out there, but he's given you everything. Every team in

595
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 20: the league, I would say probably ninety percent of the

596
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 20: teams in the league would invite him into their starting

597
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 20: lineup in a heartbeat. So, you know, I think those

598
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 20: are the kind of the Those are the discussions that

599
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 20: are going to have to be had. What are we now?

600
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 20: And we have to can't We can't just think about now.

601
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 20: I think in the Greenbrier it was all about twenty

602
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 20: twenty four. Yes, And that's what makes it so disappointing,

603
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 20: is that, as for me, you look at this team

604
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 20: and the talent on paper, and the fact that it

605
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 20: hasn't yielded what you would have expected it to is

606
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 20: so disappointing. But you have to deal with the reality

607
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 20: of the situation now, and the reality of that situation

608
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 20: is now is that you cannot make decisions from here

609
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 20: on for based solely on twenty twenty four. They clearly

610
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 20: understand that, which is why Amari Cooper was traded again.

611
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 20: I don't know why there was some need in certain

612
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 20: circles to besmirch him on his way out. I thought

613
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 20: he was a great pro and a great Cleveland Brown

614
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 20: and the history books will show him as the only

615
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 20: ever to have back to back thousand yard receiving seasons,

616
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 20: single game receiving yards. Leader made so many big plays

617
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 20: for this organization, and certainly wish him well in Buffalo.

618
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 20: But the fact that he was traded tells you already

619
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Speaker 20: that they are aware that this is not a two

620
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 20: feet full body immersed in twenty twenty four or there is.

621
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Speaker 20: There is an eye to the future, and that's unfortunately

622
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Speaker 20: what it's got to be.

623
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Speaker 19: It is.

624
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Speaker 20: Terribly disappointing, you know, being there and thinking of the

625
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 20: juxtaposition of what it's like to be at Cleveland Brown Stadium,

626
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 20: Huntingdon bake Field, you know, right now, versus what it

627
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 20: was not even a year ago, you know, ten months ago,

628
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 20: in November and in December nine months ago.

629
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Speaker 19: It's it's crazy.

630
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Speaker 20: It's impossible eleven months of my mass bat eleven months ago.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's impossible to comprehend. It's that it's that

632
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: it's come to this.

633
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Speaker 20: It is and I think that at least you feel

634
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 20: for DeShawn in terms of suffering an injury like that,

635
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 20: non contact, just devastating to see the emotion on his face.

636
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 20: You could see the respect of his peers, which I

637
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 20: noted on the broadcast. Everybody was there, every coach, every

638
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 20: player on the silent was around. Yeah, if they don't

639
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 20: like you or no, you're not getting that. So it

640
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 20: further solidifies what you already probably in your heart of

641
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 20: hearts new to be true about what the direction.

642
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 19: Things are going for twenty twenty four and.

643
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 20: What you need to do. And I think you are

644
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 20: if you are the Cleveland Browns right now. You have

645
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 20: to have the mindset because we talked about this is

646
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 20: a very significant injury for Deshaun Watson and you have

647
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 20: to wonder, like you said, will he ever play again?

648
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 20: I think it's a it's a fair question. It's this

649
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 20: unfortunate because you never want that to happen. You want

650
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 20: people to go out on their own terms.

651
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 19: But your.

652
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 20: Priority one now has to be as it has been

653
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 20: unfortunately for a great, great many years, is to find

654
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 20: that quarterback. And you have to start with the most

655
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 20: obviously available options to you, which would be dtr in

656
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 20: this building, and then look into the draft. And I

657
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 20: think unfortunately, that's that's where this team is right now,

658
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 20: being realistic about it. Of course, we all want miracles.

659
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 20: I would love a miracle.

660
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Speaker 5: I'd like to go.

661
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 20: Listen, we beat the Niners, an undefeated Niners team with

662
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 20: p J Walker last year.

663
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Speaker 2: Game has come in rantle off six in a row,

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Speaker 2: let's go or whatever, Like everybody want is rooting for that,

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Speaker 2: but you also have to be.

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Speaker 20: But if it's not that, that's when you have to

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Speaker 20: give dtr An opportunity to prove that you know, maybe

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Speaker 20: he he wants to make you think about how you're

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Speaker 20: approaching the off season in twenty twenty five, right, That's

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Speaker 20: that's agree, that's his goal to make you think about

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Speaker 20: how do we really approach the NF season?

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Speaker 5: What he is?

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Speaker 2: with Z on the Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 22: You read the OBM thinks so much better than me

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Speaker 22: because I'm trying to go so fast get it in

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Speaker 22: between plays.

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Speaker 5: Well done.

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Speaker 2: I thought you did a great job. I heard read

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Speaker 2: I'm not fishing. I think you did have I think

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Speaker 2: you had one of those which was we had a

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Speaker 2: we had had a little AAU try out that we

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Speaker 2: had to deal with and then en roots. So I

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Speaker 2: missed a little bit of the game in the in

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Speaker 2: the first half and and you guys did a very

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Speaker 2: nice job. Well, this is not where we thought we

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Speaker 2: would be. And yesterday's game kind of had all of it.

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Speaker 2: You've had twenty four hours to kind of sit back

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Speaker 2: and reflect on everything, and there was a lot that happened,

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Speaker 2: incredible emotional highs and lows and everything in between.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think that that kind of sums it up.

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Speaker 22: I know that what the final drive in Philadelphia last week,

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Speaker 22: Nathan you pointed out that it was kind of a

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Speaker 22: season in nutshell, right. You get the explosive you get

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00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 22: down there, you can't cash in, you get the penalties,

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Speaker 22: you get the you know, it truly had everything.

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Speaker 16: I feel like yesterday's game was kind of like that

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Speaker 16: as well.

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Speaker 22: It truly had everything and had the emotional high Nick

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Speaker 22: Chubb and the touchdown of Nick Chubb coming out of

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Speaker 22: the tunnel.

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Speaker 16: It was a story of perseverance as.

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Speaker 22: Well, even through those mistakes, because when he did get

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Speaker 22: in on fourth down, it was after miscuse. Honestly, I

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Speaker 22: still don't know how Michael Dunn was called for being

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Speaker 22: off sides, and I'm not saying how Michael Dunn lined

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Speaker 22: up off sides. I don't see it on the replay,

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Speaker 22: and if it is, it's by the white of his

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Speaker 22: helmet the stripe. I don't know how you call that.

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Speaker 22: So how many times does Nick Chubb have to score?

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Speaker 22: But hey, much like Nick Chubb coming back thirteen months,

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Speaker 22: the story a perseverance, the emotional lift that he gave

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Speaker 22: to the team, to the building, to this building, to

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Speaker 22: the locker room.

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Speaker 16: I mean, it was awesome.

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Speaker 22: It was great to see with Winston Reid all hands

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Speaker 22: on deck as a tight end. I loved on that

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Speaker 22: possession when they got down there.

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Speaker 19: And then the lows.

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Speaker 22: The lows don't need to be repeated, but they are

731
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Speaker 22: a kick in the gut collectively to every player, everyone

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Speaker 22: in this building, everyone in that stadium, every fan, because

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Speaker 22: we all feel them. And there is a sense of

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Speaker 22: sadness obviously, but you gotta pick yourself up. It's a

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Speaker 22: Monday and move forward somehow, some way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know the thing that you this football

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Speaker 2: team is such a fabric of this region. Yes, they

738
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Speaker 2: are a heartbeat of this region. This region. Football was

739
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Speaker 2: birthed from this region's loins, and so there is a

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Speaker 2: there is a connection that is there and it's been

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Speaker 2: around a long time. And I was listening actually to

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Speaker 2: Tayvius and Jeff I think on the postgame show on

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns radio network, and there was a lady

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Speaker 2: who called in from Lewisville and she talked about how

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Speaker 2: she's been a fan since such and such was the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and it was a name I'd never heard of. So

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Speaker 2: it predated even Sipe like my Phipps Now it was

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Speaker 2: way back. I didn't even it was somebody. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I know, but I never heard of

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Speaker 2: the guy. It's probably sixties seventies. So she was an

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Speaker 2: older lady and she'd called in and she was talking

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Speaker 2: to the guys. And obviously this was a vent situation, right,

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Speaker 2: you're venting on a lot of things. And this is

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Speaker 2: emotional stuff because it's losing, So that's disappointment. It's emotional

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Speaker 2: in terms of the quarterback and what happened inside that stadium.

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Speaker 2: It's emotional in terms of our players and some of

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Speaker 2: the comments that they made postgame. It's emotional with fans

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Speaker 2: towards players. There's a lot and anything where emotion is

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00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: in play can go off the rails quickly. And she

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00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: had this call to them and she said, look, I've

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Speaker 2: been a Browns fan since the sixties and it's I

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Speaker 2: love them. I bleed orange and brown. I'll be here

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Speaker 2: this Sunday, I'll be here next Sunday. And I hope

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Speaker 2: that Deshaun can have a surgery and come back and

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Speaker 2: try to inspire guys. And I just thought, that's the

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Speaker 2: cock eyed optimism that kind of comes with all of this.

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Speaker 16: You also need it to get through the day.

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Speaker 2: Sure, of course you do because you got to look

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Speaker 2: Sunday right.

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Speaker 22: And you know, as a sports talk radio host for

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Speaker 22: many years, I used to always be annoyed by those

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Speaker 22: people that start in every call by trying to give

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Speaker 22: you their credentials by saying not credentials necessarily, but.

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Speaker 16: By saying, I've been a fan since X and I

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Speaker 16: catch the point.

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Speaker 2: You're a fan, I'm a fan, right.

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Speaker 16: We're all fans. We're all here, let's talk.

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Speaker 22: But in this case, in the much like the old

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Speaker 22: SEC commercial, it means more here and I'm paraphrasing, it

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Speaker 22: is real, and that does have meaning, and that does

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Speaker 22: have value, and that does speak to how hard we

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Speaker 22: all take this and how difficult it is to wake

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Speaker 22: up in the morning and recover right. And I'm not

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Speaker 22: the one getting hit either, None of us are getting

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Speaker 22: hit right. So that's a whole different kind of recovery

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Speaker 22: that the players wearing that uniform have to go through.

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Speaker 22: But look, you have to look forward because there is

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Speaker 22: no other way. There truly is no other way. You

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Speaker 22: got to move forward, and right now, moving forward is

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Speaker 22: the Ravens and that's what you have to do because

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Speaker 22: if you don't do that.

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Speaker 16: You won't win another game.

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Speaker 2: You won't.

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Speaker 16: If you don't turn the page, it's gonna be the

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Speaker 16: same story.

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Speaker 2: Milt Plumb, Milt Plumb, there you go, Milt Plum. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's Whushi dropped nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 21: I was going to say it was Bill Nelson.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Bill Milil nineteen sixty sixty one.

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Speaker 19: That's the commitment.

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Speaker 2: That's it, brother.

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Speaker 5: That is.

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Speaker 19: One thing that I think is tough.

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Speaker 20: And we're talking about, you know, passionate fans, and the

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Speaker 20: Browns I think have incredibly passionate fans, and I think

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Speaker 20: and best fans in the NFL, and I know that

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Speaker 20: right now, it feels like there is a tenuous relationship

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Speaker 20: between the fans and the team and the players, especially

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Speaker 20: after everything that went down yesterday and whether that was

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Speaker 20: just a very small group in a very large setting,

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Speaker 20: it obviously got the attention of the player who fought

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Speaker 20: back pretty strongly. And I know I've seen fans fire

813
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Speaker 20: back at that. You've grown up with it your whole life.

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Speaker 20: It is a passionate city. It is a city that

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Speaker 20: can get down on in tough times, but it's also

816
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Speaker 20: a city that is resilient. A fan base that's resilient,

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Speaker 20: a fan base that stood by this team through one

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Speaker 20: and thirty one, and you know, how do from your perspective, Andrew,

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Speaker 20: how do you kind of mend those fences if they

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Speaker 20: even need it to be mended, or is it just

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Speaker 20: a matter simply time and success.

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Speaker 22: I think time and success will go a long way.

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Speaker 22: I think wins go a long way. And that's not

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Speaker 22: to say that everything is transactional and it's what have

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Speaker 22: you done for me lately, because that is not fair

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Speaker 22: I think on either side of that equation. But wins

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Speaker 22: and success in time obviously can cure a lot.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 22: It's talking to my brother after the game. He was

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Speaker 22: in I think one nineteen. Those are where his seasoned

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Speaker 22: seats are, and he said it was uncomfortable for a second,

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Speaker 22: and then I think he realized when people near him

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Speaker 22: understood the severity. The tone changed very quickly. And that's

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Speaker 22: not to excuse any bad behavior or any cheering, but

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Speaker 22: that inexcusable, absolutely inexcusable.

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Speaker 16: But yeah, said there was.

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Speaker 22: Some awkwardness and also things that there were some cheers

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Speaker 22: for DTR which might have overlapped right with the cart

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Speaker 22: and DeShawn still getting to the tunnel, and that made

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Speaker 22: it feel more awkward, just one man's opinion from sitting

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Speaker 22: in the stands with his daughter trying to explain what

842
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Speaker 22: was going on at the time. But time wins. Taking

843
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 22: a breath and stepping back and understand why we're all here, right,

844
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Speaker 22: It's a game. We're passionate without the fans, by the way,

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Speaker 22: none of us have jobs like that. That's how this industry,

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Speaker 22: higher industry, right, sport exists because fans love the sport.

847
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Speaker 22: We love playing the sport, fans love seeing the sport,

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Speaker 22: and we are all in it together. And I know

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Speaker 22: that moving forward, we'll all realize that.

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Speaker 2: I just think in an incredibly emotional situation as as

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Speaker 2: was yesterday with what happened, as the weeks have lead

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Speaker 2: have that let up to it have also been incredibly emotional.

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Speaker 2: I think grace for everybody is a little bit is

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Speaker 2: extended a little bit. And look, if you're going to

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Speaker 2: be a fan of a National Football League team and

856
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: you are going to turn your Sundays in every Sunday

857
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Speaker 2: to that organization, and if you're going to go down

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna tailgate, and you're going to buy your

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Speaker 2: tickets and you're going to buy your gear, and you're

860
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Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna go show up and you're gonna buy

861
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Speaker 2: your drinks and your snacks and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Then then you certainly have the right to do in

863
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Speaker 2: my view, whatever you want to do. Is it something

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Speaker 2: that I would do? No, No, it wouldn't be. But

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Speaker 2: I also know how many people there knew what happened

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Speaker 2: or the severity of it as it happened. And once

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Speaker 2: they understood the severity of it, perhaps to the story

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Speaker 2: you just told with your brother, perhaps things are a

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Speaker 2: little bit different. But in the moment, there was a

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Speaker 2: lot caraming towards this so wildly disappointing start to this season,

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Speaker 2: and it's an incredibly emotional time for everybody, and folks here,

872
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: this is what they do on Sunday. They watched the

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00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: Brown and Orange, and they give you, they give the

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: organization those Sundays, right, And that's why everything the haslms

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00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: are trying to do here and why to Nathan's point earlier,

876
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: like we trust your guys's plan. Here's every single thing

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Speaker 2: you need to articulate to execute this plan right. And

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Speaker 2: so I can't imagine how emotional it is for ownership

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Speaker 2: to see all of that and players the emotion that

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Speaker 2: they've put into it and all of it, and I

881
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: just think it's just like it uses social media thing.

882
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: I taught this lesson to my kid the other day.

883
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: I said, listen, don't text with emotion to your buddies.

884
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: Don't tweet or he snaps with emotion or whatever, like

885
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: take a beat. And so I think yesterday for everybody,

886
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: extend some grace. Extend some grace to the fans. Fans,

887
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: extend some grace to the players. You're all gonna have

888
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: each other's back going forward together. These are we all

889
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: want to so many different circumstances bleeding into one. You

890
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: you all want the same thing, but in an emotional state,

891
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: mistakes were made from everybody, and we'll all be fine

892
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: going forward.

893
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 22: Let me let me say this too. I also commend

894
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 22: players who stand up for their brother truly.

895
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 5: Sure you know what.

896
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 16: I'd want someone to have my back as well. Yeah right, Well,

897
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 16: those are the guys that I go to war with.

898
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 21: Those are the guys.

899
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 22: I hate that analogy, but those are the guys that

900
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 22: I come to work with every day. Those are the

901
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 22: guys that I work in this building for countless hours

902
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 22: every day. I want those people to have my back,

903
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 22: and I would have the same for my coworker and

904
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 22: my friend as well.

905
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 20: Absolutely absolutely, And I think it's it is it's it

906
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 20: is a game, but it is an emotional game. It

907
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 20: is a obviously very physical, a violent game.

908
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: You know.

909
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 20: I think everybody last year was so magical as well.

910
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 20: And this comes on the heels of that last We

911
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 20: were eight and one at home. Our fans when they

912
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 20: came out on a Sunday last year they saw the

913
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 20: Browns win, or they came out on a Thursday night

914
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 20: for that unbelievable night. Yeah, in December they saw the

915
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 20: Browns win. And now you're zero to three at home,

916
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 20: you're one and six overall. The quarterback who was to

917
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 20: be that quarterback that ushered you into a Super Bowl

918
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 20: era is hurt again and didn't look like he was

919
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 20: going to do that were he not injured, and that

920
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 20: the questions are gonna be, you know, is he gonna

921
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 20: start next week? We were already at that point of

922
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 20: it that I think there's there are a lot of

923
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 20: emotions in the city and I think, you know, people

924
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 20: were so invested in the Guardians and then that's the

925
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 20: crazy thing about the playoffs, right.

926
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 19: It's over.

927
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: It's done.

928
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 20: It's over, and we all had a lot of fun

929
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 20: with that. So you lose that on Saturday, you lose

930
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 20: again on Sunday, and I think there's just a lot

931
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 20: of emotion. There's so much bigger picture around the whole situation,

932
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 20: which we're all quite aware of. It ends up being

933
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 20: a tough situation. It's a little bit of a cauldron,

934
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 20: and you know, I think everybody needs. As you said,

935
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 20: we've got two more home games, take any breath. Everybody

936
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 20: wants the same thing. I want this team to win

937
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 20: the Super Bowl. You want seamless super Bowl.

938
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 22: You want to see I have literally daydreamed and lost

939
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 22: focus on where I am every day of my life.

940
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 22: I'm not I'm sure there hasn't been several thousand people

941
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 22: in that stadium while working out, while walking down the street,

942
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 22: while buying beach, sitting exactly while sitting on a thirty

943
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 22: five thousand feet There has not been a day where

944
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 22: I haven't gone there in my head right where I

945
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 22: haven't had like even in last year, where I haven't

946
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 22: said to myself, Man, if we only had the Texans.

947
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 16: At home last year in January, I know we would

948
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 16: have won.

949
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 20: I think saying, I think about it too, and I

950
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 20: always come back to like, I just want to I want.

951
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 19: To be there for a home playoff game.

952
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: That's right, give me one of those.

953
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 22: I was there for the last home playoff win and

954
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 22: it was phenomenal. I bet I still remember it like

955
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 22: it was yesterday, and I sat behind a massive steel

956
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 22: support girder and had to crane my neck like this

957
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 22: to see the field. But it was awesome, of course,

958
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 22: and we're gonna get there again.

959
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Speaker 2: Here on a reaction Monday edition of the program. Time

986
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: for one thought around the League. Hello Gibbe, Hi boys.

987
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 21: Obviously we would normally do this on Tuesday, but Hof

988
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 21: will join us tomorrow. He and Chris Rose on the

989
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 21: call yesterday. Scarves everything. I can't even imagine what the

990
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 21: stories are going to come out from their little escapade.

991
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: Over the pond, across the pond, I should says may

992
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 2: have like European citizenship.

993
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 21: I feel like dual citizenship is definitely in play.

994
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think is Britain in the EU or did

995
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: they brexit? They brexit down of the year brexited, Yeah,

996
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean otherwise the hoff.

997
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 21: Yeah, so the Hoffel joined tomorrow at two o'clock. He

998
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 21: is flying back today, all right, so very good. So

999
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 21: we're doing one thought today from week seven in the

1000
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 21: National Football League. Obviously still some football to be played,

1001
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 21: but let's react to the Sunday games and we will

1002
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 21: start in jolly old England. Jaguars thirty two Patriots sixteen.

1003
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 21: Pats were up ten to nothing early on before twenty

1004
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 21: two unanswered from the Jags and literally twenty five minutes

1005
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 21: the first twenty five minutes of the News five Brown

1006
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 21: Show yesterday. So quite a nice little run by the

1007
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 21: Jags and they hold on Nathan's girl. One thought from you.

1008
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 19: I'm a sucker for this Jags team. I don't know why.

1009
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 20: I think they've got some good players and maybe it's

1010
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 20: fantasy wise.

1011
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: I see the air yards per route for the rookie.

1012
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 19: I love him.

1013
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1014
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 20: Five targets five catches eighty nine yards in a touchdown.

1015
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: Let's get it. How about ten Thomas?

1016
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 20: How about ten targets? So we'll go to do with ten.

1017
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 20: Sounds like to me one hundred and seventy eight yards

1018
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 20: two touchdowns, right. I like Brian Thomas a great deal.

1019
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 20: I still believe in Trevor Lawrence. Incredibly efficient. This one

1020
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 20: tank Bigsby actually, I think maybe gives them more as

1021
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 20: the primary ball carrier than ETN. And the reason I

1022
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 20: say that is he is not only does he have

1023
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 20: home run speed, but he will run you over. In fact,

1024
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 20: his dominance on the ground compelled Mayo, who seems to

1025
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 20: be not understanding I don't know that see out of

1026
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 20: his depth? Yes, who calls players soft?

1027
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems like a mess. Drake may is doing

1028
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: all right. He looks pretty good. Two games that it's seen,

1029
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: play looks really good. I like that they wore the

1030
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: white tops over the gray pant I thought that look

1031
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: was really cool for them. From the New England side

1032
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: of things, Jacksonville at two and five, they can find

1033
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: their way back. I think that division is very gettable.

1034
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: If Indianapolis is going to continue to force Anthony Richardson

1035
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: on that organization. Then they're really gettable. So I think

1036
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: Jacksonville is not done yet. At two and five, it's

1037
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: a lot to dig out of, but I don't think

1038
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: they're done yet. I will tell you this. You can

1039
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: play games in London. I feel like for the rest

1040
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: of eternity, and I'm going to forget they're on every

1041
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: single Sunday. I don't realize that they're on until it's

1042
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: halfway through. Really, I always forget they're on, even though

1043
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: I know they're on, and I know hoff was calling

1044
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: it and I was all of it, and I just

1045
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: it was like third quarter. I'm like, oh god, they're

1046
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: playing the London game. I forget every single Sunday. I

1047
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: just bodyclock, not locked into it.

1048
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 19: I love love getting to wake up. Like on the

1049
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 19: ride down, I was half in Chris Rose.

1050
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 20: I was giving give them some scribe, texting, getting some

1051
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 20: responses back from the booth.

1052
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 21: Yeah, it was great.

1053
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it, and it's.

1054
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 21: I like it. I can I Can I get someone

1055
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 21: else other than the Jags? Can I watch someone? Can

1056
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 21: I watch a.

1057
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: Different good point? Because they're not gonna move there, So

1058
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: I don't know why they keep force feeding Jacksonville to London. Yeah,

1059
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: what that's about, because in the old days I got

1060
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 2: it because they were gonna, they were considering moving there.

1061
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: Now I don't. I don't know why you have to wait.

1062
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 19: It has to be them every.

1063
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 20: Yeah, and this is maybe I'm just aging out or

1064
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 20: sometimes the job, the.

1065
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: Job replacing Spry and.

1066
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 19: I have fully.

1067
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 20: I turned in performance on Saturday night that was performs

1068
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 20: of a man of much younger in a much younger years.

1069
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: Least surprising thing ever, But.

1070
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 20: I like the Sunday I wish the Sunday schedule was

1071
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 20: a nine thirty window, one window, a four window, and

1072
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 20: then give me one that starts like at seven thirty,

1073
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 20: and then that's it. It is so hard unless I

1074
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 20: am so invested, which I can only am a game

1075
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 20: at this point, or maybe an awesome Niners game. I

1076
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 20: would want to stay up and watch the whole thing.

1077
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 20: But even then it's hard for me to watch a

1078
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 20: full sign night game after the whole day of Sunday.

1079
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 21: I love that seven thirty idea because then you're hey,

1080
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 21: By the way, the local news can come on at

1081
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 21: eleven way Monday night. It benefits everyone.

1082
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, they should.

1083
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: I I agree with you. I can't do both. I

1084
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: either have to choose the four o'clock window or the

1085
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: eight o'clock window. I can't do both of those games.

1086
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 20: But what would what would compel you in the eight

1087
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 20: o'clock window to stay with it till eleven.

1088
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: Thirty A team I'm invested in or a team with

1089
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I can't even unless we're playing. I'm

1090
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: not I'm not sticking around, right, but a seven thirty

1091
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: start seven thirty, pretty good shot.

1092
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: You got a chance.

1093
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: But I mean, there's you're bouncing around. I mean you

1094
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: I thought baseball was intriguing this weekend, so I watched

1095
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: some of that, so that was bouncing into that.

1096
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 21: Yeah, all right, onward? Do we go here on oil?

1097
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 20: Quick on that one? Sorry, just a jump in since listen,

1098
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 20: you gotta get till three o'clock, So let's take time topical.

1099
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 20: Did you guys see Belichick on McAfee today because we

1100
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 20: had talked about Mayo and the soft comment. I didn't

1101
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 20: know Belichick quote, the Patriots led the league last year

1102
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 20: in rushing defense. This year their way down in the twenties.

1103
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 20: It's the same, guys, They're not soft. That's a tough group.

1104
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 20: So he was not pleased at all with that. And

1105
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 20: then he also he cannot stand the Jets at all,

1106
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 20: and he.

1107
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 19: Loved that they got crushy go they were.

1108
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 20: They looked a lot better under Robert Salaf, he asked me,

1109
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 20: and he's like, the Jets are the Jets and Woodies

1110
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 20: woody jeez.

1111
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he. I thought Mayo was his handpicked guy.

1112
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: I thought that was.

1113
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 21: I thought that that was he was the guy waiting

1114
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 21: in the wings because other teams wanted to hire him.

1115
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: I wonder if it wonder if he was Craftsky but

1116
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: not Bills. That's what That's what it seems like. It

1117
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: feels like you well, wolf.

1118
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 21: The Falcons went back to being gutless Seahawks thirty four

1119
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 21: Falcons fourteen Seattle on top of the NFC West at

1120
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 21: four and three gutless Falcons four and three as well

1121
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 21: two and three at home, two and oh away from

1122
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 21: the atl BO. Bishop One thought.

1123
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: For me, this was the most stupefying score of Sunday

1124
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: to me, not the result. I mean, so Seattle is good,

1125
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 2: and I thought that, you know, you summed it up great.

1126
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: They're fun, but they're not really great. They're good but

1127
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: not great. That's kind of what they are. I mean,

1128
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: they lost their previous three coming into this one. They

1129
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: lost it at the Lions, they got beat at home

1130
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: by the Giants and then beaten at home by the

1131
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: Niners last two times out. So the idea that they

1132
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: were going to fly across the country and beating an

1133
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: Atlanta team that feel like it was finding its footing

1134
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: and not only beat them but hammer them yea is

1135
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: It's really the most stupefying result of the weekend for me.

1136
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: Not that they won again their quality, I get it,

1137
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: but just that they slumped them is hard to wrap

1138
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: your head up.

1139
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 21: Yeah, they Falcons became gutless again. It's Nathan one thought.

1140
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 20: This is a classic duh turnovers matter game. I mean,

1141
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 20: you're talking about Falcons outgained them. Falcons ran thirty two

1142
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 20: times for one hundred and fifty five yards and a

1143
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 20: touchdown four point eight yards of carry. They outgained them

1144
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 20: in every facet, but Kirk Cousins turned the ball over

1145
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 20: three times. The Seahawks did not turn the ball over once.

1146
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 20: Another thing, And I just have to say this because

1147
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 20: it's starting to get to the point with me where

1148
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 20: it's driving me completely insane. And yes, We're gonna go

1149
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 20: ahead and dive into this. He's a Buck guy, so

1150
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 20: maybe Buckeye people want to hear this as well. But

1151
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 20: can somebody explain to me how Jackson Smith and Jiguall

1152
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 20: only is allowed to run like one yard routes. I

1153
00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 20: wish I three catches nine yards in this one. He's

1154
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 20: only even average ten yards of catch in two weeks

1155
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 20: this season nine point five, nine point eight, six point forty.

1156
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 20: He had a game where he had twelve targets, eight

1157
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 20: catches for fifty one yards, four catches for thirty one yards.

1158
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 19: That just for nine yards.

1159
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 21: I mean, does he only run sideline routes? Because that's

1160
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 21: the only thing Ohio State seems to do with their

1161
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 21: wide outs the middle of the field. Is it all sideline?

1162
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 19: No, it is not.

1163
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: It's all strange. It's very strange. It's much better than

1164
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: what they have him doing. Yeah, I don't, I don't

1165
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: get it. That's it all right.

1166
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 21: Up next, we thought this one was gonna be a

1167
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 21: good one.

1168
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 5: It lived up.

1169
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 21: To the hype. The Green Bay Packers are five and two.

1170
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 21: Jordan Love continuing to excite and impress. He takes down CJ.

1171
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,959
Speaker 21: Stroud and the Texans twenty four to twenty two. Both

1172
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 21: teams are five and two on the football season. Nathan

1173
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 21: one thought from you, I.

1174
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 19: Believe I had this. What I'm upset about is that

1175
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 19: we just.

1176
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 20: Needed so upset about the scores. Can we just get

1177
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 20: one more point here?

1178
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: So upset?

1179
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 20: He had every opportunity to do it as well. Well,

1180
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 20: I gotta tell you my one thought coming out of

1181
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 20: this is that c J. Stroud to be that guy

1182
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 20: that you we all want him to be in the EB.

1183
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 20: You've got to be able to elevate and it should

1184
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 20: not be as simple as the fact that Nico Collins

1185
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 20: plays in your good and when he doesn't he had more.

1186
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 19: I read a stat.

1187
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 20: I think as many passing yards to Nico Collins as

1188
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 20: he's had in like the last couple of games combined.

1189
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 19: It would seem to be just a Nico Collins.

1190
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 20: Yeah, they're ten of twenty one for eighty six yards

1191
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 20: in a day where Mixon's running the ball. Great, you

1192
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 20: run for one hundred and forty two on the ground.

1193
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 20: It's it's stupefying. And I would say on the other

1194
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 20: side with Jordan Love, maybe Jaden Reed's a guy that

1195
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 20: would start on Houston, but the rest of them probably not.

1196
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 20: And he's still out there getting it done, slinging it,

1197
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 20: and he is not afraid to throw the ball, turn

1198
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 20: the ball over, but he is not afraid to throw

1199
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 20: the football.

1200
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the first that I've been a little

1201
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: bit concerned with what I saw from CJ. You mentioned

1202
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: statistically just a disaster, but also like they still have

1203
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, they still have Adult Schultz is still there.

1204
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: Like they still got a couple of guys that you

1205
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: could rely upon and you should be able to move

1206
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: the ball down the field a little bit, and they

1207
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: just couldn't. So I think that there is Yeah, they

1208
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: whether he was just used to seeing him over reliant, whatever.

1209
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: I still think he's great, and I still think you'd

1210
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: go very highly if you're redrafting the NFL. But it

1211
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: is this is now a little bit of a trend

1212
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: now where without Nico Collins they've taken a major stay.

1213
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 19: I think this is what it was.

1214
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 20: He averaged two hundred and seventy eight yards a game

1215
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 20: with Nico Collins in the lineup, and in the two

1216
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 20: games without Nico Collins in the lineup, he's thrown for

1217
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 20: exactly two hundred and seventy eight yards combined.

1218
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the Laflora can coach Coach of the Year.

1219
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 19: Now I'm feeling good about it.

1220
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 21: I can flat hold on, I'm feeling good.

1221
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: Did you Enjordan as your comeback Player of the Year?

1222
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: I had, Let's hold please, I had.

1223
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 20: Love is the MVP of the Namble the league, and

1224
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 20: Floor is the coach.

1225
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 5: Of the Year.

1226
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 21: I will say there's a caveat to that he can

1227
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 21: coach in the regular season.

1228
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 19: It's a regular season award.

1229
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,479
Speaker 21: He is the NFL.

1230
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: Hear that they would lose as much as they have

1231
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: at home with even when Rogers was there and he's

1232
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: winning MVPs and San Francisco could come in and beat him.

1233
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, and then they would lose in the wild card.

1234
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 21: By the way, little schedule news Week nine, the NFL

1235
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 21: is starting to move things around. Colts Vikings goes to

1236
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 21: Sunday Night football. Jack Eagles was the original Sunday Jags Eagles.

1237
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'd much rather watch Eagles than Anthony richardson Colts

1238
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: Vikings Now, kids, Huh, that's strange.

1239
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 20: Yes, So are they going to mandate that Flacco plays

1240
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 20: in that game?

1241
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 21: Great question?

1242
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 5: Question. I don't know.

1243
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 21: I think there were definitely some better options. I wonder

1244
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 21: if Fox most have protected Lions packers.

1245
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 20: Probably speaking of Flacco on the Man cast tonight, Yeah

1246
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 20: he is.

1247
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: They're doing a bit where like all the people who

1248
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: heard him. So it's like Belichick and ed Reid and

1249
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: Flacco sweak.

1250
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 20: Right, yeah, ed Reid ed Reid still to this day

1251
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 20: when one of the wore one of the coolest hats

1252
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 20: I've ever seen. It was at Drin James's Hall of

1253
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 20: Fame party, and it was like a wooden hat.

1254
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 19: It was kind of like a.

1255
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 20: Modern sombrero, smaller than that, but just the hat with

1256
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 20: the and it was like this.

1257
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 19: Beautiful wood hat, a wood yeah, and like he had

1258
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 19: a fabric stripe around it, you know, that kind of hat.

1259
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 19: But it was like this.

1260
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful How could it have been comfortable? I don't know.

1261
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 20: Maybe the inside was like a ligned with something soft

1262
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 20: and it had a hard exterior shell.

1263
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1264
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 21: It was like, that's not breathing.

1265
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 19: And then he was like then he was like DJing

1266
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 19: in it.

1267
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 5: It was he was unbelievable. Not a breathable fabric.

1268
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not a modern face up next.

1269
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 19: It was like a clog if a clog was a hat.

1270
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 21: Yeah, speaking of the fighting Yellowstones, the Colts somehow that

1271
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 21: this this had to be the most ugly of ugly

1272
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 21: games yesterday around the National Football League. Sixteen to ten

1273
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 21: Colts beat the Dolphins. I don't know how the Colts

1274
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 21: keep trotting Richardson out, but they do. Bob Bishop, one

1275
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 21: thought from you. As the Colts go to four and three.

1276
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give these two stats, one for eleven and

1277
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: one for eight. One for eleven Jayalen Waddle, one for

1278
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: eight Tyreek Hill. They had a bye week.

1279
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 20: Four targets, by the way, zero targets in the first

1280
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:56,919
Speaker 20: half of the game.

1281
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: You had a bye week, Mike McDaniel, you had a

1282
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: bye week.

1283
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 5: Zero.

1284
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: You can't scheme up something to get them the ball.

1285
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: That's that's malfeasance on his part, and I think every

1286
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: sort of genius, whatever he is, I think it's.

1287
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 20: It's organizational malfeasans as well. If your offense was this

1288
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 20: dependent on TUA, you needed to get somebody who could

1289
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 20: at least give you sixty two.

1290
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: I mean crazy. They have fours for Tyreek Hill and

1291
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: two for Jalen Waddell.

1292
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 20: And zero in the first half. I'll say it again, Yeah,

1293
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 20: that's crazy.

1294
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: Zero t Anthony Richardson is not an NFL quarterback at

1295
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: the charade.

1296
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 5: It's done.

1297
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 19: You gotta play Joe Flacco.

1298
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: It's done. Yeah, they're four and three, they can win

1299
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: that division. Like, go play Flacco, you'll win ten games.

1300
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 21: Up Next, another game that lived up to the billing

1301
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 21: and then some, the Detroit Lions had the Minnesota Vikings

1302
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 21: their first loss of the season. Detroit hopped the NFC

1303
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 21: Norris Division at five and one that they beat the

1304
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 21: Bikes thirty one twenty nine. Nathaniel One thought, good game,

1305
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 21: very good game.

1306
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 19: We had.

1307
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 20: We liked this one. We saw how it was going

1308
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 20: to go, and we did. Jared Goff needs to be

1309
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 20: in the MVP consideration.

1310
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: He was if he was on pace of three straight

1311
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: games of quarterback rating of one hundred and fifty or.

1312
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 19: More, well is he yes?

1313
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: One four So at one point though he was above

1314
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: one because he was like he was like seventeen of eighteen.

1315
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 20: So here's here's what he's done in recent games. Here

1316
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 20: is last four last four games, eighteen of twenty three

1317
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 20: for one ninety nine two touchdowns and a one fourteen

1318
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 20: rating one one four eighteen of eighteen for two ninety

1319
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 20: two two touchdowns and a one fifty five point eight

1320
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 20: eighteen of twenty five for three fifteen twelve point six

1321
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 20: yards an attempt, three touchdowns, no picks, one fifty three

1322
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 20: point eight.

1323
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 19: And this one was again I don't understand how the

1324
01:05:59,560 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 19: ratings work.

1325
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 20: This was twenty two out of twenty five to eighty

1326
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 20: two touchdowns eighty eight percent of leetions, two touchdowns, no picks,

1327
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 20: and a rating of one hundred and forty.

1328
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: He's incredible, incredible, all right, I got this hot take.

1329
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: I gotta be I loved him.

1330
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 19: Pull the tape out. Who like Jared Goff the most

1331
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 19: in the world in that year?

1332
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would. They always disrespect him when he was

1333
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: with the Rams. He was incredible. I just thought that

1334
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: was such an incredible get back for Detroit. You know,

1335
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: La wins they won the Super Bowl. Stafford was great,

1336
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: but you got like a franchise quarterback and first round

1337
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: picks on the way back. Like that's perfectly executing the

1338
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: trading of a franchise quarterback at the right time to

1339
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: the right team for the right compensation.

1340
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 20: I think people forget that he was a two time

1341
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 20: pro bowler with the Rams.

1342
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 2: Yes they do. They did. They thought he was trash

1343
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: because McVeigh gave up on him.

1344
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 19: Here's what he did.

1345
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 20: Here are Here are the three seasons prior to him

1346
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 20: being traded because he wasn't good enough for the Rams.

1347
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 20: Sixty five percent completions four thousand, six hundred and eighty

1348
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 20: eight yards, thirty two touchdowns, twelve picks, and a one

1349
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 20: zero one rating. The next year sixty three percent completions

1350
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 20: four thousand, six hundred and thirty eight yards, this one

1351
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 20: not as good, twenty two touchdowns, sixteen picks, and then

1352
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 20: the final year was sixty seven percent completions four thousand yards,

1353
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 20: twenty touchdowns, thirteen picks. So in that stretch fifty four

1354
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 20: seventy four touchdowns, forty one picks, almost two to one,

1355
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 20: sixty six percent completions, and he threw for averaging in

1356
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 20: that span forty four hundred yards a season, and he

1357
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 20: was thrown asunder. He then goes there their first year

1358
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 20: in Detroit, they go three ten to one. He goes

1359
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 20: sixty seven percent thirty two to forty five, nineteen touchdowns,

1360
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 20: eight picks, twenty twenty two, sixty five four four three eight,

1361
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 20: four thousand, four and thirty eight yards. He's got four

1362
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 20: seasons on his belt with forty four hundred yards and more,

1363
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 20: passing twenty nine touchdowns, seven picks. Last year sixty seven

1364
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 20: point three forty five seventy five, thirty touchdowns twelve This

1365
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 20: year right now, he's completing seventy four percent of his

1366
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 20: passes sixteen hundred and ten yards, ten touchdowns, four picks.

1367
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 20: He leads the league in yards per attempt nine point three.

1368
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 20: He leads the league in air yards per attempt nine

1369
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 20: point three and rating one hundred and eleven point five.

1370
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 20: He just usurped Joe Burrow, who had a solid game

1371
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 20: against US yep, because he was leading it at one

1372
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 20: to ten.

1373
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: All right, you guys are ready for this take yep.

1374
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: I want you to think.

1375
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 21: I want you.

1376
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 2: I need your full attention for this. This Detroit Lions

1377
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: team is the best marriage of team way. It's constructed, personality, brand, attitude,

1378
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: all of it, and city. Since the eighty five Bears,

1379
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: Campbell is ditka, I love his speeches postcars so great.

1380
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: They got to win it. They have The Bears won it,

1381
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,879
Speaker 2: and so it works and they're revered.

1382
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 20: I feel like if you took his operation, that that

1383
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 20: whole operation you're describing, if that was they're here Pittsburgh, Sure, Buffalo.

1384
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's one of five or six places that it

1385
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: could work, but that's one of them, no doubt. While

1386
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: it is working, Yes, and it's I think because they've

1387
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 2: waited so long, it's even better.

1388
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 21: As much as he symbolizes it. And I I'm trying

1389
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 21: to think if I can disagree with you, and I

1390
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 21: don't know if I can.

1391
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I just can't.

1392
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 21: Their coaching staff can take them out of the game

1393
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 21: as quickly as.

1394
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: But that's what makes it. That's why, that's why I

1395
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: think it's perfect for Detroit. Like it's just they just

1396
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: feel like it's perfect. Yeah, all of it, even Goff

1397
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: the California kid cast off finds home in Detroit. Like

1398
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: the whole story.

1399
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 20: It's GoF did this in a game in which Sam

1400
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 20: Laporta caught one pass for twenty five yards, Jamison Williams

1401
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 20: caught one pass for negative four yards and he still

1402
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 20: goes twenty two of twenty five for two to eighty

1403
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 20: Gibbs is unbelievable.

1404
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 21: I mean, he was we have additional news from around

1405
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 21: the league from Dolphins head coach moments ago. Mike McDaniel

1406
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 21: told reporters Monday, Tua will practice Wednesday for the first

1407
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 21: time since September twelfth. They are hopeful he will play

1408
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,440
Speaker 21: Sunday against Arizona.

1409
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: God bless him. I hope he's healthy. I hope he

1410
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: can stay healthy. Me too, Stay upright, he will all quickly.

1411
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 20: He will not. He will not wear a Guardian cap.

1412
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 20: He said it is his personal choice.

1413
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 21: All right, all right, back to it, gentleman. Eagles twenty

1414
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:39,520
Speaker 21: eight g Men three Eagles, Saquon Barkley Reunion Tour success.

1415
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 21: Eagles now four and two of the g Men two

1416
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 21: and five. Bo You did you.

1417
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: Guys see the clip going around of the general manager

1418
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 2: from off season Hard Knocks when John Mara is standing

1419
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: in his office and he says, I just got to

1420
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: say it, like he's letting the guy run his business.

1421
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: He says, I just got to say it. I don't

1422
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 2: like the idea of Saquon playing in Philadelphia, and they

1423
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 2: it goes on and then the guys mars in at

1424
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: the back and he goes, I just want to I

1425
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 2: just got to say it. He is our most popular

1426
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 2: player by far, and then he left the room. That's

1427
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: how you get fired. There began there's a thousand, but

1428
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean.

1429
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 19: Like owing for it home too. Did you see this

1430
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 19: clip now?

1431
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: And he's in the room now, but it's going around

1432
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: and he's in the room and he goes, hey, I

1433
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: just got to say I don't like the idea. And

1434
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: then like I think Chicago's driving up the price, blah

1435
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. I just gonna say I don't

1436
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: I don't like the idea of him in Philly. And

1437
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 2: then he goes. I just says, say, guys, he's our

1438
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: most popular player by far, Like I'll let you do

1439
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: your business. You're you're my football guys. But hear me,

1440
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: hear what I'm telling you. And then he goes and

1441
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: does that.

1442
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 20: Can I give you Saquon Barkley real quickly, real quick?

1443
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 20: Because Week one we got plent time.

1444
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: Week one.

1445
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 20: H twenty three receiving one hundred and thirty two total,

1446
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 20: Week two ninety five, rushing twenty one, one hundred and

1447
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 20: sixteen total. Week three one forty seven nine receiving one

1448
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 20: fifty six total. Week four eighty four rushing thirty two

1449
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 20: receiving one sixteen total.

1450
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 19: Week five.

1451
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 20: Eighteen for forty seven two catches, seven yards, forty seven

1452
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 20: yards rushing fifty four total.

1453
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: That was against US.

1454
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 20: Yeah, we've done some good things defensive him the last

1455
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 20: few weeks. We played winning defense. In this game, you

1456
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 20: have twenty one of the Bengals, you have twenty to

1457
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 20: the Eagles. That's winning defense. Then he goes after our

1458
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 20: game seventeen for one to seventy six, eleven yards receiving,

1459
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 20: so one hundred and eighty seven total, one hundred and

1460
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 20: seventy six rushing. There is one anomaly there. The Brown

1461
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 20: set out to stop Saquon Barkley.

1462
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: They did that.

1463
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 20: We are this defense is playing pretty well, but that

1464
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 20: is I thought that was worth worth talking about it.

1465
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: And he's been spectacular.

1466
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 21: Up next Rammitt taking down the Raiders by way, Aidan

1467
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 21: O'Connell to ir he will miss four to six weeks.

1468
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 21: The Rams win twenty to fifty one. Real quick thought.

1469
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 19: From you, how do you not win by more than seven?

1470
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 11: Oh?

1471
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: Dude, you saw it? Did you see this? Like they

1472
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: had the ball inside the red zone, they threw like

1473
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: Stafford threw a pick like they were This was never

1474
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: a five point game never never, and somehow it's it

1475
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 2: is no, I'm with you, suck.

1476
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 21: Uh. Next everybody in Washington holding their breath for their

1477
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 21: starting QB.

1478
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 11: Come.

1479
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 19: He's okay, right because mom tweeted out that he's okay.

1480
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 21: Is he walked back out.

1481
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: He's gonna be fine. You know what I think was crazy.

1482
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 2: Canalis comes out afterwards and says, Andy Dalton's our starter.

1483
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: Why why why? Why?

1484
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 20: By the way point, why how did he light up

1485
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 20: the Raiders and now he can't do anything?

1486
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 5: That's great question.

1487
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 19: It's really wild.

1488
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 2: There's a lot of tape on Andy Dalton, like you

1489
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: should know what he can do and can't.

1490
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 19: Do for sure, but if you look at his game.

1491
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 20: So he comes in against the Raiders, goes three nineteen

1492
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 20: three touchdowns, then Bengals was still pretty good, two twenty

1493
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 20: two touchdowns and one pick. Then the Bears it's eighteen

1494
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 20: to twenty eight for one thirty six and a pick

1495
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 20: a sixty one. Then it's the Falcons twenty six to

1496
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 20: thirty eight, two to twenty one, two touchdowns, two picks,

1497
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 20: seventy eight point nine. And then this is eleven of

1498
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 20: sixteen for ninety three yards, two picks and a rating

1499
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 20: of forty four. I mean his rating has gotten worse

1500
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 20: basically every single week.

1501
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 5: Bet it. Oh, I don't know.

1502
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 20: The Raiders Commies are good. Commies are good. Their defense

1503
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 20: is starting to come together.

1504
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: They're undefeated in gold britches too, by the way they look.

1505
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 19: That's what they need to wear.

1506
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: All that's it. Yeah, for sure.

1507
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 16: Yes, Uh.

1508
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 21: The Niners lose, Chiefs get them yet again. Chiefs twenty eight,

1509
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 21: Niners eighteen bo.

1510
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: Bishop, Mahomes and Kelsey statistically aren't doing anything except winning.

1511
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: Gar Yeah, this win by this win, win every week.

1512
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 21: Patrick Mahomes right now a top ten quarterback in the NFL.

1513
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: Yes, he's the number he's the one. If you were

1514
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: redrafting the league, everyone would pick him number one. He

1515
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent still the best quarterback in the league.

1516
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 21: They are.

1517
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: They just win every week. They just do In San Francisco,

1518
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: it's starting to stack injury wise.

1519
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1520
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: You now, like it's just you go back, he's done,

1521
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: he's done. You go back to the beginning of the

1522
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 2: year and you think about going into that first weekend

1523
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: when McCaffrey was gonna play, not gonna play, and now

1524
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: here we sit, no McCaffrey. No, ayuk, I mean it's

1525
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 2: what's Let me see what their upcoming schedule is.

1526
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 20: They're three and four, they beat the Seahawks, they lost

1527
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 20: to the Rams, lost the Cards, one and three in

1528
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 20: the division. They go Cowboys. This looks like Sunday Night

1529
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 20: football to me. Next week at home at Bucks, home

1530
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 20: Seahawks at Packers, at Bills.

1531
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,879
Speaker 19: This is not an easy schedule.

1532
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 20: No, then it finishes home Bears home Rams at Dolphins, home,

1533
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 20: Lions at Cardinals.

1534
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: Not an easy schedule.

1535
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 20: You wonder if by the time that we're talking November

1536
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 20: is when they thought, like late November, mid late November.

1537
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 20: Now you lose Cowboys, you lose Bucks, you lose Seahawks again.

1538
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 20: Are you Are you even going to bring back McCaffrey.

1539
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 2: Just sitting there on that fantasy team.

1540
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 21: Good one too, he was Sunday Night.

1541
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 20: Also, shout out cream Hunt. It's so the same. Twenty

1542
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 20: two carries this week. Still no run longer than thirteen yards,

1543
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 20: but he'll.

1544
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 19: Get you three and a half. This seventy eight two

1545
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 19: touchdowns like good for.

1546
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 2: His twenty eight plays. You don't have to throw it

1547
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: and it goes positive. Is it eight yards?

1548
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 17: No?

1549
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 2: But it's three and a half and it's positive, and

1550
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: three and a half times three is what over ten?

1551
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 19: Yeah, that works.

1552
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,799
Speaker 20: He had the week before he had twenty seven carries

1553
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 20: for one hundred and two yards and a touchdown against

1554
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 20: New Orleans and his long run on twenty seven carries

1555
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 20: was eight yards.

1556
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,919
Speaker 21: Squealers thirty seven Jets fifteen.

1557
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 19: Rogers is.

1558
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 20: Rogers is now the most unlikable quarterback in the NFL.

1559
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 20: And he's not good. And he they had that game,

1560
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 20: they were going to win that game. It was about

1561
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 20: to get They could have gone into up twenty two

1562
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 20: to six.

1563
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

1564
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 20: And he throws a bad pick to an undrafted free

1565
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 20: agent who picked him off twice in the game, by

1566
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 20: the way.

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01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 19: Yeah, that and it was getting Pittsburgh. They were it

1568
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 19: was boober.

1569
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: No, they were it turns over. It turned into Kumbaya

1570
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 2: at the end of it. It was it was not

1571
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: at halftime.

1572
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 20: No, And if Rogers had not blown it and put

1573
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 20: the nail in the coffin, it could have been Yeah.

1574
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, Pittsburgh just wins. Yeah this dude, they're five

1575
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Speaker 2: and two. I don't it doesn't matter. They just win.

1576
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browse. To you have for a little overreaction reality, Hello.

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01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 21: Gibbey, gentlemen, Little NFL fun, Let's do it Monday. Overreaction

1590
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 21: or reality. Jordan Love is better than c J.

1591
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: Stroud, Nathan, I don't think it's overreaction.

1592
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 20: I think that that would probably be a fairly if

1593
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 20: you were saying you got to start a team now

1594
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 20: the age take age out of it. I think you

1595
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 20: could have some people that would be very much on

1596
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 20: the Jordan Love Bandwagon. So I don't think it's crazy.

1597
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 20: I don't think it's crazy crazy. Look at what he

1598
01:18:58,400 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 20: did the end of last year.

1599
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 2: I know he was really great. I don't think we're

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01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: there yet, but I think that he is. Love and

1601
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: Stroud are in the same category. They are brilliant, bright

1602
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 2: young quarterbacks who most teams in the league would die

1603
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: to have. Yes, either one of them. So like it's

1604
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: splitting hairs, you'd probably take cj over Jordan age wise,

1605
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 2: size wise, that stuff. But at the same time, like

1606
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 2: Jordan is very, very good and Green Bay's ability to

1607
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 2: go from Farv to Rogers to Love over forty years

1608
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: without skipping a beat is staggering. No one else has

1609
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 2: done that. Andy tried to do it. They anyway, Manning Luck,

1610
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,799
Speaker 2: but to do that three of them, yeah, their whole careers.

1611
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: It's craziness crazy yep.

1612
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 21: Knowing when to part ways well.

1613
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 2: And it was awkward on all of them. It was

1614
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 2: awkward with Farv to Rogers, it was awkward with Rogers

1615
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 2: to Love, but it worked. It works the idea that

1616
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: they could identify Jordan Love. It's not like like everybody

1617
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: knew Rogers were going to be good he dropped in

1618
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: the draft because nobody needed a quarterback. Fine, but the

1619
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 2: idea that you could identify Jordan Love from Nevada and

1620
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: then sit him for three years and was it utest

1621
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: state of Nevada and let him sit for all those

1622
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: years and then play him and then he's great. It's crazy.

1623
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 20: I still think your goal was to win the super

1624
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 20: Bowl with Ratt. If he wins a super Bowl, then

1625
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 20: you say success.

1626
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 21: And you and then if you're a Pacer nation, you've

1627
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 21: won a super Bowl with each one of them, which

1628
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 21: would be wild.

1629
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, both from California to.

1630
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 21: God, that's your that's our He cut it off.

1631
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 2: Look, it's a choice. He looks great. A choice.

1632
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 21: It was a choice.

1633
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: He was unrecognizable.

1634
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 21: I saw you look at him. I'm like, you know,

1635
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 21: that's our game. Look great.

1636
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: I just had no idea. Oh my gosh, did not

1637
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 2: see that coming.

1638
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 13: Uh.

1639
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 21: Overreaction to reality, Sing's head coach Tennis Allen will be

1640
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 21: the next head coach to lose his job in the

1641
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 21: National Football League.

1642
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: Bob Bishop, let me just think who's in that conversation.

1643
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 21: I'm going to tell you right now, if Jacksonville had

1644
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 21: lost that game yesterday, someone would have been flying home, coach.

1645
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: I think that's right. It probably is New Orleans. It's

1646
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: probably they're decimated. Yeah, but was very close.

1647
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1648
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 21: I just don't feel like NFL team like I don't

1649
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 21: think there's a lot of people that get fired midway

1650
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 21: through the season now. I don't think it's as many

1651
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 21: as we like.

1652
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 20: No, it has to be a total debacle of a situation.

1653
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 20: You wonder if Callahan and Tennessee could they be like,

1654
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 20: let's admit our mistake here.

1655
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: Bring Mike back, Mike, will you come back? Come back? Please?

1656
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: Miss you. Let me tell you.

1657
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 20: I got a text from a big Titans fan who

1658
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 20: I once had a beef with.

1659
01:21:52,080 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 2: Today he said, can you please, yeah, choice send me back,

1660
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: my man, Billy.

1661
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 21: Overreaction to reality. Even though they are the lone undefeated

1662
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 21: team in the NFL, Kansas City is not the best

1663
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 21: team in the AFC. Nathan ZEGERA overreaction or reality.

1664
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 20: I mean, until somebody beats them. They are and they've

1665
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 20: beaten some pretty good teams.

1666
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: They are undefeated. They are the two time defending Super

1667
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 2: Bowl champions. This season, they have beaten Baltimore, Cincinnati, the

1668
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 2: LA Chargers, and the San Francisco forty.

1669
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 20: Nine and their average margin of victory forty three divided

1670
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 20: by what they're six and oh, it's seven points a game.

1671
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 20: They're the clutch, the average margin of victory seven points

1672
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 20: a game.

1673
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: No, they are. They're the best team in football. They

1674
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 2: go Raiders, Bucks, Broncos before they play the Bills. They're

1675
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: at the Bills on November seventeenth. That'll be a good one,

1676
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: so they easily could be nine and oh by the

1677
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 2: time they go to Buffets. Lions are pretty good too

1678
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 2: right now.

1679
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,799
Speaker 21: The only thing is Casey got that early. By that hurts.

1680
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 2: They're schedule. Then after the Bills, it's Panthers, Raiders, Chargers,

1681
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 2: US Texans, Steelers, Broncos. Remember at the end of the

1682
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 2: year we said they go like thirteen and four. Yeah, no, no, no,

1683
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 2: And it's really in play.

1684
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 21: It's yeah, overreaction or reality. Only one team from the

1685
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 21: NFC West will make the playoffs.

1686
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 5: Bo Bishop, All right, let's.

1687
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 20: I got to see where we're at, all right, So

1688
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 20: here's your current NFC standings.

1689
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 2: You ready.

1690
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 20: If we're in today, Lions, Commanders, Bucks, and Seahawks would

1691
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 20: be the division.

1692
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 2: Winner NFC West. No, no, no, but I'm saying you said

1693
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs, right, So here's what it comes

1694
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 2: down to. It comes down to no four will not

1695
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: or only one will make it.

1696
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 21: Only one team from the NFC West.

1697
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 20: That's why I was going to paint the whole playoff

1698
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 20: picture before it got knocked out.

1699
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: Of fact because three from the NFC North are going

1700
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: to make it. I think Philly's gonna make it, so

1701
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 2: I think it's reality.

1702
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 20: Niners are three and four with a plus twenty two

1703
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 20: point differential seven games.

1704
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: I will take the nine over Seattle. I think forty

1705
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: nine Ers will win this division at like ten and

1706
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 2: seven or eleven and six, and then you think they're

1707
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 2: going to get to eleven wins. I do, They'll get

1708
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: to ten.

1709
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 20: The Seahawks would even be if the Niners replace them.

1710
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 20: The Seahawks would be out right now because they would

1711
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 20: be behind both the Bears and the Eagles. Bears right

1712
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 20: now would be if the playoffs are today Lions, one

1713
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 20: seed Commanders, two seed Bucks, three seed Seahawks, four seed Vikes,

1714
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 20: five Packers, six Bears seven. Currently all four NFC North

1715
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 20: teams are in. Eagles would be the first one.

1716
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: Out at eight.

1717
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 20: By the way, isn't it doesn't it feel like we're

1718
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 20: getting to the point very soon where it's going to

1719
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 20: be eight in and nobody's gonna get Yeah, it's stupid.

1720
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 2: That they went to seven to begin with.

1721
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 21: Yes, final overreaction to reality, Jared Goff is the second

1722
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 21: best QB in the NFL through seven weeks. I would

1723
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 21: put Allen ahead.

1724
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 2: One is Allen.

1725
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 21: I would assume Allen see we had this conversation games like, well,

1726
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 21: who's number one? I'm like, is it?

1727
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 2: I mean from joh he's the league in passer rating.

1728
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: Burrow is second, Allen is fourth. But Alan has to

1729
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: do a lot more and up until they got a

1730
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 2: Mari with a lot less. I think this, I think

1731
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: Jared Goff, and you tell me you think about this.

1732
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 2: If I rephrase this, Jared Goff is in the best

1733
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: quarterback situation in the National Football League at the moment,

1734
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 2: and he's taking full advantage of that situation. They have

1735
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 2: a lot of weapons, they're healthy predominantly, and he's taking

1736
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 2: full advantage. He's still throwing four picks like Burrow is

1737
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: fourteen touchdowns two picks.

1738
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 5: I mean, is it.

1739
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: Burrows in a pretty good situation. I don't think his

1740
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: offensive line is quite as sturdy as Detroit. Detroit's with

1741
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: Sewell and Decker at tackle. And I don't think he's

1742
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 2: he doesn't have that type of front and they don't

1743
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: have that type of back. But his receivers, I would say,

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Speaker 2: are slightly better. But Saint Brown and Williams are really good.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, he's in a good situation and I think he's

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Speaker 20: he is good.

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Speaker 2: Think, yes, a lot of goodness.

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Speaker 21: That's it for overreaction to reality.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Let's kid. All right, we

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Speaker 2: get your great clips, clip of the game coming up next.

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Speaker 2: to join Today Now the great clips, great clip of

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Speaker 2: the game, Great clips. It's going to be great. Nick

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Speaker 2: Chubbs first touchdown in three hundred and ninety eight days

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Speaker 2: since being gone.

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Speaker 21: Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 22: That's the eye pitch left, Nick Chubb running left.

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Speaker 16: Nick chop Is.

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Speaker 21: Touch down, Nickless.

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Speaker 22: Shame all hump, Welcome back and welcome back to the

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Speaker 22: end zone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. I mean with all of the rest

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Speaker 2: of it, that is a hell of a moment to

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Speaker 2: get Nick back and to get him into the end

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Speaker 2: zone for his intro.

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Speaker 20: His intro was was a very special moment. Goosebumps, crowd

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Speaker 20: was unbelievable, it was awesome. And then to see him

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Speaker 20: get the score was great. Obviously, wish we saw more

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Speaker 20: of him in the second half and that things were work.

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Speaker 20: That was a great moment to get him back and

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Speaker 20: to get him into the end zone in his return

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Speaker 20: to Huntington Bankfield.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. We'll get you a couple of scores. That's right.

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Speaker 2: A Monday two fur coming up next you listen to

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Speaker 2: clear them around Stalely on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: duel of scores.

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Speaker 21: We do doubleheader Monday night, but it's not really a

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Speaker 21: doubleheader simultaneous Monday night football. Let's kick things off with

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Speaker 21: the first one, the main event, Baltimore visiting Tampa Bay

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Speaker 21: eight fifteen, ABC, ESPN BO Bishop.

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Speaker 2: I wish the hook wasn't in the mix here, I

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Speaker 2: really do. I think Baltimore. I think Baltimore wins this game,

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Speaker 2: and I think they win by four. Baltimore thirty one,

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay twenty seven.

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Speaker 20: I feel like Baltimore is going to have a lead,

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Speaker 20: but there's a comeback scenario here where you can get

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Speaker 20: to that that hook is gonna matter. It feels like

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Speaker 20: to me, so I will take Ravens seventy eight thousand,

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Speaker 20: five hundred and seventy four. Okay, Bucks seventy eight thousand,

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Speaker 20: five hundred and seventy one.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 21: And then at nine o'clock, if you have ESPN Plus,

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Speaker 21: congratulations on all your successes. The Los Angeles Chargers are

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Speaker 21: in Arizona again. You can only watch on ESPN Plus

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Speaker 21: stupid Zigura.

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Speaker 2: I like how they were acting like this was like

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Speaker 2: they were doing you a favor that you guys see

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Speaker 2: the ad for me, it's yes week, like no, actually,

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Speaker 2: first ever ESPN Plus games. If the audience going, that's

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Speaker 2: all we've ever wanted is are they gonna watch?

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Speaker 20: I don't know Hartbaugh knows how to win, Billy.

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Speaker 2: I think they win chargers by a billion, chargers, chargers.

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Speaker 19: By two or more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the would be the same. All right, we'll do

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Speaker 2: this again tomorrow. Our next level is coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listen, everybody. Cleve the Bron's Daily, eight fifty

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