Speaker 1: Welcome to Bullyball, presented by DraftKings. I am Rachel Nichols,
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Rachel.
Speaker 1: You did miss well, you didn't miss it because I
Speaker 1: know you watched them from over there. But man, some
Speaker 1: amazing game seven's happened over here in the States yesterday.
Speaker 1: Two road teams winning, I mean, just not what we
Speaker 1: would expect. And I want to start with what happened
Speaker 1: in the West Minnesota, erasing a twenty point deficit, taking
Speaker 1: down the champs in a game seven. On the road,
Speaker 1: Minnesota outscored Denver sixty to thirty seven. In the second half.
Speaker 1: Six players were in double figures. Carl Anthony towns Man,
Speaker 1: I just want to stop for a second and give
Speaker 1: him his due, because he could have easily this year
Speaker 1: just checked out with the way Anthony Edwards ascended on
Speaker 1: that team. There are so many other players and we've
Speaker 1: seen it over and over again where the guy who
Speaker 1: had been the unquestioned number one would just take his
Speaker 1: ball and go home and wouldn't participate in the same
Speaker 1: way anymore. And I think Carl got better. Actually, I
Speaker 1: think that he not only bought in that he worked
Speaker 1: on his game and he's the best he has ever
Speaker 1: been as a player. And I've just been so impressed
Speaker 1: twenty three and twelve last night. And he is the reason,
Speaker 1: by the way, to me, that they were even able
Speaker 1: to have a comeback, because in the first half almost
Speaker 1: no one else was doing anything, and Carl was the
Speaker 1: one who was over and over against showing up for
Speaker 1: that team in the first half kept them just close
Speaker 1: enough to get there and then have that great comeback. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to make sure people recognize
Speaker 1: his part of this as well, and then the defense
Speaker 1: overall was exceptional. They held Denver to forty one percent
Speaker 1: on field goals, twenty four percent on threes, Yoki Chi
Speaker 1: Murray only two in double figures. Everybody else was struggling
Speaker 1: to score. So look, I can't say enough about how
Speaker 1: impressive Minnesota has been, but I want to know from
Speaker 1: you guys, did you expect this When it was halftime?
Speaker 1: Were you like, this game is over? What did what
Speaker 1: did you think going into and during this game?
Speaker 3: I would definitely say, you know, towards halftime, it looked
Speaker 3: as if, you know, Denver kind of had this in
Speaker 3: the bag. You know, obviously Denver is a tough place
Speaker 3: to play. You got the altitude against you, and obviously
Speaker 3: they're there defending champs. The experience is there. This is
Speaker 3: a team that's been there time and time again. They've
Speaker 3: seen the ups and downs of the playoffs. So I
Speaker 3: feel like at halftime everything was pointing towards them coming
Speaker 3: out of this series successfully.
Speaker 2: But man, Man's dogs.
Speaker 3: There's some dogs on the other end of that floor, man,
Speaker 3: And there's some young dogs.
Speaker 2: They full of hard, they're full.
Speaker 3: Of energy, good energy, and you know, obviously that starts
Speaker 3: with you know, the young Cat Anthony Edwards. But you
Speaker 3: know you said it first, Rachu call Anthony Towns performed greatly,
Speaker 3: He's been a great sport about you know, becoming a
Speaker 3: number two option.
Speaker 2: And I mean for me on the.
Speaker 3: Outside looking you know, looking in, when you have a
Speaker 3: talent like Anthony Edwards, that's not a hard decision to make.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know we want to give him his credit,
Speaker 3: but this ain't some bumb we're talking about. That's the
Speaker 3: number one option like this, this is this is a
Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer. We can all sit here and
Speaker 3: say that he's that good. He's the real deal. He's
Speaker 3: a superstar and in my opinion, the new face of
Speaker 3: the NBA. So you know, I don't think that was
Speaker 3: a hard decision for for Cat and you know, Hoopers
Speaker 3: respect Hooper's when when you know it's a talent, it's
Speaker 3: easy to you know, fall that line. And you know,
Speaker 3: I think Cat made the right choice with you know,
Speaker 3: being cool with this and you know, falling into that
Speaker 3: second option, which which I think will help extend his career.
Speaker 2: And not only that, I.
Speaker 3: Think he'll become a better player from this because you know,
Speaker 3: me and I taking both you know speak on this
Speaker 3: being that number one option is hard like and and
Speaker 3: it's it's a responsibility that comes with that every single
Speaker 3: night to where you know, you get to blame for everything,
Speaker 3: and that ship can start to you know, it can
Speaker 3: get it can get to your mental you know. So
Speaker 3: kind of sliding into that second option, you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's a little less responsibility, but it's it's a
Speaker 3: more it's more of a comfort level there and you
Speaker 3: can you can be more of yourself, which I feel
Speaker 3: like Cat has now become. So I think that was
Speaker 3: an easy choice for him. But for me, the biggest,
Speaker 3: the biggest X factor in this entire series that isn't
Speaker 3: getting the credit I feel.
Speaker 2: He deserves is Jay mcdame's Seattle.
Speaker 3: Kid, by the way, my bad, bad, I know it's
Speaker 3: the difference, but I don't think he's getting the the
Speaker 3: shine that he deserves. And when we talk about the
Speaker 3: defensive anchor, you know, obviously the narrative is Rudy Gobert,
Speaker 3: but that kid is the defensive anchor of this team,
Speaker 3: and I think he's shown a time and time again,
Speaker 3: and for some reason, we highlight every you know, every
Speaker 3: word that Anthony Erwits says obviously, So I mean he's entertaining.
Speaker 3: He says all the right things. You love to hear
Speaker 3: him talk, but he's not just talking to talk. When
Speaker 3: he speaks, his facts facts behind it. And he said
Speaker 3: it in Round one interview Kevin Durant, he said, well,
Speaker 3: we got j McDaniels and it's the reason.
Speaker 2: He said that, and this kid.
Speaker 1: In the post postgame interview last night. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you get I don't know what you
Speaker 1: what you broadcast you get over there. But last night
Speaker 1: on the T and T broadcast, they interviewed him and
Speaker 1: Ali asked some version of you know, what's who's the
Speaker 1: reason you won this game? And he just answered right away,
Speaker 1: he said, Jim McDaniel's like.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely not getting the T and T product, but
Speaker 3: he's one hundred percent correct. He's the defensive anchor at
Speaker 3: this Minnesota team, and I just want to make sure
Speaker 3: he gets the credit he deserves because not only is
Speaker 3: he their best wing defender and defender in general, he's
Speaker 3: also playing on the offensive side of the ball. He
Speaker 3: ended the game with twenty three points, So I think
Speaker 3: this kid's future is going to be really Bright and
Speaker 3: he's definitely on his way to a big payday, So
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure he gets the credit
Speaker 3: he deserves.
Speaker 1: And your guy nas read Boogie, who has been championing
Speaker 1: since October.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: He put it up, man, I mean he was he
Speaker 1: was amazing. I just didn't know if you could talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the defensive effort from the
Speaker 1: Wolves and what that did to the Nuggets, because they
Speaker 1: just the Nuggets looked dead by the end of that game.
Speaker 1: I mean, they look so tired. What did you see
Speaker 1: and how is that when you're on the court facing.
Speaker 2: That they just warmed down?
Speaker 4: I mean you see at the Everards was having a
Speaker 4: tough game in the first half, even the start of
Speaker 4: the third quarter, but he just stayed picking up Murray
Speaker 4: for a court even though Murray had a great first half,
Speaker 4: he just stayed at it warmed down. He possession by
Speaker 4: possession and you see that in the box score as well.
Speaker 4: With the with the Denver Nuggets, like they usually have
Speaker 4: five or six guys in double figures, they had two
Speaker 4: Like that That says a lot about them taking away
Speaker 4: the role players and also making it tough on Joker
Speaker 4: and Jamal Murray. So they just stayed with what they knew,
Speaker 4: and that was they laid their hat on the defensive end.
Speaker 4: They obviously was able to make some big plays offensively,
Speaker 4: like you just mentioned. Nas Reed was huge in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, like play after play, Golbert was huge on offense,
Speaker 4: like he got a few and ones had the fadeaway
Speaker 4: jump shot, like you knew it was something when he
Speaker 4: hit the.
Speaker 2: Fadeaway buzzer beater, like and it was all net and
Speaker 2: then at the.
Speaker 4: Edwards still exactly and then just ran back like that
Speaker 4: was just in his like that was in his bag.
Speaker 4: So you just seen You've seen a lot from a
Speaker 4: Minnesota Timberwolves team that you wouldn't expect, Like they looked
Speaker 4: like they had championship experience. They were never rattled, even
Speaker 4: though they were down twenty at halftime, like they took
Speaker 4: it possession by possession, and you've seen it like and
Speaker 4: then when the energy turned and the momentum turn, it
Speaker 4: was like it was all she wrote like that that's
Speaker 4: the definition of a team. You could tell those guys.
Speaker 4: Those guys don't just like playing with each other, they
Speaker 4: play for each other. And that's the definition of what
Speaker 4: they got going over there, and it's it's energy on
Speaker 4: a ten at all times. So like, you got to
Speaker 4: tip your out into a team like that that came
Speaker 4: in to the defending champs home court in a Game
Speaker 4: seven and turned the whole game around in the last
Speaker 4: twenty four minutes of the game. So that team is
Speaker 4: special and they got something. They got something good this
Speaker 4: year for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and said in the press conference after the game,
Speaker 1: someone asked him when did you know you really had this?
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, when Rudy hit that turnaround fair, He's
Speaker 1: like from then on, he's like, I'm I'm good. You know,
Speaker 1: it was interesting you make the point about who had
Speaker 1: double figures or not. Denver did not invest in its
Speaker 1: bench this offseason. You know, they let guys go, they
Speaker 1: didn't replace them. They have a very young bench, and
Speaker 1: you know, I just remember when Lebron and Dwayne those
Speaker 1: heat teams that were winning finals. You know, one of
Speaker 1: the backbreakers that cost them an additional third title together
Speaker 1: was Mike Miller was not brought back because ownership decided
Speaker 1: it's going to cost us too much and they could
Speaker 1: have within the salary cap, but they would have had
Speaker 1: to pay more luxury tax things like that, and I
Speaker 1: just think when you have a team that has won,
Speaker 1: that is the time to pour your money in it
Speaker 1: to it. It's not the time to pull back. We've
Speaker 1: seen it a couple of times now, and I do
Speaker 1: think that that was a huge part of why Denver
Speaker 1: lost this series. It's also the sixth year in a
Speaker 1: row that the defending champ has not advanced past the
Speaker 1: second round. I mean, that's crazy. The last team to
Speaker 1: do it was Golden State in twenty nineteen. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's exhaustion or what do you think, Bog
Speaker 1: Is that just something about how much more competitive the
Speaker 1: league is now?
Speaker 3: Nah, that's that falls on ownership. Cheap ass owners. Let's
Speaker 3: just call it a book. There's no reason you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Have you mean in general, not you mean in general,
Speaker 1: not Devers we're talking about.
Speaker 3: We're talking about Denver because the last year I was there,
Speaker 3: we were literally practicing around a bucket where it was
Speaker 3: a leak in the ceiling. So like, it doesn't even
Speaker 3: make sense, So we're gonna call it out. It's a
Speaker 3: cheap ass owner. There's no reason you shouldn't have brought
Speaker 3: Bruce Brown back after the way he contributed to that
Speaker 3: championship team. He I would say outside of Jokis and Jamal,
Speaker 3: he might have been the third most important piece of.
Speaker 2: That championship team. For sure. It is. It's no reason
Speaker 2: for him not to have been brought back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bench was And I'm not going to go
Speaker 3: out on a limb and say that bench was trash
Speaker 3: because I don't want to shit on anybody, but it's something.
Speaker 2: It smells something similar. And with that.
Speaker 3: Being said, it was just so inexperienced. Outside of Reggie Jackson,
Speaker 3: you don't really have a lot of experience. DeAndre Jordan
Speaker 3: didn't really see minutes and obviously so with being behind Jokis,
Speaker 3: but you know, you got young kids like Peyton and
Speaker 3: Chris Brown and they just don't have the experience to play,
Speaker 3: you know, at a championship level and actually contribute.
Speaker 2: So that falls on ownership.
Speaker 3: And like you said, after a team wins a championship,
Speaker 3: that's the time to go all in. That's when you
Speaker 3: want to spend because obviously you're going to get that
Speaker 3: return back. So that falls on ownership being cheap and
Speaker 3: you know, stepping around exit.
Speaker 2: So it works. If you want to win, you gotta
Speaker 2: spind Yeah, yeah, you definitely.
Speaker 4: Like you said, if I'm winning the championship, I'm doing
Speaker 4: everything i can to bring back my main guys. They
Speaker 4: contribute to the championship, whether it costs money or not.
Speaker 4: Like you gotta if you're trying to repeat, that's hard
Speaker 4: to repeat with new guys on that bench. They haven't
Speaker 4: really been in those situations. They haven't really had those
Speaker 4: experience with this type of team. So you've seen it.
Speaker 4: You've seen it fall down on them in Game seven,
Speaker 4: like like we said, they're a team that's usually five
Speaker 4: guys in double figures, everybody's sharing the sugar. They really
Speaker 4: went two on five the last twenty four minutes where
Speaker 4: like nobody was really getting shots, nobody was capitalized on anything.
Speaker 2: It was really the Joker and Jamal Murray show, which
Speaker 2: they just died down.
Speaker 4: They're human, Like we've seen it in the other series too,
Speaker 4: over on the East Coast, Like, guys just died down.
Speaker 4: And that's going to happen when when the guys are
Speaker 4: playing heavy minutes and every possession is is for them
Speaker 4: to make some happen like that, that has definitely gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And look I do think the competitive
Speaker 1: balance in the NBA is a thing, and we've talked
Speaker 1: about it a lot the last few weeks, that the
Speaker 1: international players really being such forces in the league. It's
Speaker 1: it's not something. Look twenty years ago, it certainly wasn't
Speaker 1: the case, and I'm not sure it was even the
Speaker 1: case seven years ago. You know, you have a team
Speaker 1: where I mean, you have teams, these teams led by
Speaker 1: guys like Jokic, like Yannis By, you know, even Shake
Speaker 1: Gilgers Alexander is not American. I mean, you've got guys
Speaker 1: around the league who are raising the level of other
Speaker 1: teams game. And I just think we do have more
Speaker 1: teams that you could say, oh, they could win, they
Speaker 1: could win a title, Luka Duncich, they could win a title.
Speaker 1: And I do think it makes it harder for everyone
Speaker 1: else and more exciting for the fans, because anyone can
Speaker 1: win on a given day. What do you guys think
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: I got one more thing, Right, I got one more thing.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Tim Connolly, right, he yeah, he built
Speaker 4: Minnesota to beat Denver. Like he looked, he looking like this,
Speaker 4: he and the crowd was like this. He was probably like, yeah,
Speaker 4: say something, everybody was, you know, shipping on them about
Speaker 4: making the trade for Goldberg at one point and saying
Speaker 4: it wouldn't work. Like he really slowly built the team
Speaker 4: to beat the defending champs with the team he had
Speaker 4: built previously. So we got to give a shout out
Speaker 4: to Tim Connelly. He doing something right over there, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he built both teams.
Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly slowly built. He built that ship in a year.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, quick, quick, it was right off.
Speaker 3: He knew, he knew the plan right away. So definitely
Speaker 3: shut up to Tim Connor, still pissed at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it's all good. You know how that goes.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the team that Minnesota's gonna face next,
Speaker 1: the Mavericks. Look, that was a hard fought series, came
Speaker 1: right down to the very end of the very last game.
Speaker 1: They beat the Clippers, they beat the thunder from the
Speaker 1: position of being a five seed, and I just I
Speaker 1: don't know what do you guys make of that series
Speaker 1: coming up?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be a good series.
Speaker 4: You see, uh, you see Anthony Erras already say, you know,
Speaker 4: my matchup is Kyrie, so I'm gonna see what he
Speaker 4: can do.
Speaker 2: He can do. It is so like that type of energy.
Speaker 4: Look, look, that type of energy rubs off on your teammates.
Speaker 4: Like if your head leaders already saying something like that,
Speaker 4: you're like, all right, let's get it cracky. So it's
Speaker 4: gonna it's gonna be a good series. Luca and Kyrie's
Speaker 4: gonna be something special. In the Western Conference finals, you've
Speaker 4: seen that they pulled that together against a tough and
Speaker 4: well coached okay see team. But it's like it's something
Speaker 4: with them Timberwoods, Like they're.
Speaker 2: Not afraid to say anything.
Speaker 4: They're not afraid to rub anybody's feathers wrong, Like they're
Speaker 4: not trying to be nobody's friend, Like they really accepting
Speaker 4: the challenge of anybody and everybody. And they're standing on
Speaker 4: business like they're they're they're standing on business when it
Speaker 4: comes to the talk and talking to talk, but walking
Speaker 4: the walk.
Speaker 2: But you you definitely got to know it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna be easy because the Dallas Mavericks are
Speaker 4: well coached they got some young guys that are playing
Speaker 4: out of their mind and Lively and PJ. Washington guys
Speaker 4: has never seen the playoffs. It's taking advantage of their opportunities.
Speaker 4: So I got Minnesota. But I think it's gonna go
Speaker 4: six to seven games for sure. It's gonna be back
Speaker 4: and forth and a lot of good action in this series.
Speaker 4: Like I can't wait for the I can't wait for
Speaker 4: the competition for sure.
Speaker 2: I think I think with one, I'm a firm believe and.
Speaker 3: You know, defense wins championships, and obviously I feel like
Speaker 3: the best defensive team coming out of the West is
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves. Once again, I spoke on the kid earlier.
Speaker 3: I think Jada McDaniels, this is another opportunity for him
Speaker 3: to display his defensive talent. I think I think that
Speaker 3: match up between him and Luca will explain a lot.
Speaker 3: I think he'll make the game very tough for Luca
Speaker 3: a sixty eleventh frame. I don't think Lucas used to
Speaker 3: that type of a defensive matchup. I think that I
Speaker 3: think what helped Dallas, you know, getting through this last series,
Speaker 3: outside of their start playing Kyrie and Luca was the
Speaker 3: big man matchup. I think their bigs just had way
Speaker 3: more experience than a young check Holt. That's not necessarily
Speaker 3: the case when it comes to Minnesota's big Like Minnesota bigs,
Speaker 3: they're a real deal, so I don't think they're as
Speaker 3: dominant when it comes to you know, Rudy Gobert, a
Speaker 3: naj read and the.
Speaker 2: Calling Anthony Towns.
Speaker 3: I think I think their responsibilities will become, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot tougher this this round. So for me, I
Speaker 3: see Minnesota coming out of the West. I think I
Speaker 3: do think it'll be the games will go to a
Speaker 3: six or seven game series.
Speaker 2: But for me, I see Minnesota pulling out this series.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be an amazing playoff series.
Speaker 1: I am going to be glued to my television. You're
Speaker 1: totally right about the defensive efforts. And Anthony Edwards when
Speaker 1: he wasn't shooting last night, played great defense. And the
Speaker 1: ability to do that is such for young player. I
Speaker 1: think we don't see that that often. We don't see
Speaker 1: them buckling down and being like great, what else can
Speaker 1: I do? They get a little obsessed with their shot,
Speaker 1: they keep trying to force it, and instead he played
Speaker 1: great defense. So that matchup between him and Kyrie, which
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Look, it's got to be box shopping. It's going to
Speaker 4: be box office. That's how you can tell nobody's calling
Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving out like nobody that nobody's accepting that talleting
Speaker 4: like that defensively. So there's something in the water over
Speaker 4: in Minnesota, like them boys is ready not saying he's
Speaker 4: going to stop Kyrie, but like to have that type
Speaker 4: of confidence. It's like, let's get it cracking. So that's
Speaker 4: that's big time of a twenty two year old to
Speaker 4: do something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's twenty two year old to call out a
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer and be like, and by the way,
Speaker 1: one of the best guy around the hoop that we've
Speaker 1: ever seen for sure, you know, great handles, the whole nine.
Speaker 1: So I just for him to do that, and I'm
Speaker 1: curious how Kyrie will respond, because especially the back half
Speaker 1: of that series with Oklahoma City, you know, he was
Speaker 1: the whole series. He was never able to have a
Speaker 1: breakout game because the under I mean, they are a
Speaker 1: legit defensive force and the team defense they play is
Speaker 1: really strong, and they were able to buckle down on
Speaker 1: Kyrie in a way that he really hadn't seen in
Speaker 1: these playoffs. He had some breakout games against the Clippers
Speaker 1: that did not happen in this last series. So the
Speaker 1: defense is only getting better. Minnesota the number one defense
Speaker 1: in the league this year, anchored by the defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year, and I know the controversy over that,
Speaker 1: but you can't argue with where Minnesota finished, and I
Speaker 1: just think it will be a very different series for them.
Speaker 1: I do think, though, that that team is so finely
Speaker 1: tuned and built around Luka Dancic, and I think that
Speaker 1: we need to give Nico Harrison credit for that because
Speaker 1: first time GM there was some criticism of some of
Speaker 1: his early moves, obviously the Jalen Brunson thing, and I
Speaker 1: honestly don't remember if Nico was there for that, but
Speaker 1: it was a move from ownership that you know, there's
Speaker 1: been criticism of what Dallas has done with their personnel
Speaker 1: over recent years, and the fact that they were able
Speaker 1: to make the trades at the deadline, have confidence in
Speaker 1: those trades when not everybody did, and get those role
Speaker 1: players playing as well as they did. I just I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's going to be a great, great,
Speaker 1: great series. I'm very excited about it. Do you want to,
Speaker 1: by the way, just call out before we move on
Speaker 1: to the east.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Derek Lively and he posted on Instagram last
Speaker 1: night about his mom, who died of cancer earlier this year.
Speaker 1: I think she was just fifty two, just really really
Speaker 1: sad and difficult, and he just basically said, you know,
Speaker 1: I love you, I miss you. Just sit back and
Speaker 1: watch mama. And I was, you know, to be able
Speaker 1: to play the way he does, considering some of the
Speaker 1: personal stuff he's gone through and who he's playing for,
Speaker 1: I think is really touching and effective.
Speaker 4: For sure, he's doing his thing. You're in a tough
Speaker 4: situation he's doing He's doing his thing.
Speaker 1: So shout out here for Isaiah. You know all about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you are dealing with the death of your
Speaker 1: sister and sometimes, you know, those tragedies can undo you
Speaker 1: or they can power you. And what he's been able
Speaker 1: to do is has been exceptional, just like with you.
Speaker 1: So I'm very impressed.
Speaker 4: You know, being around your teammates in these hostile environments,
Speaker 4: that just only makes it, you know, that much a
Speaker 4: little a little easier because you got your brothers around you,
Speaker 4: supporting you, helping you through those tough times. I'll be
Speaker 4: feeling like, especially when I was going through it, it's
Speaker 4: like when you get back to the crib, that's when
Speaker 4: that's just tough.
Speaker 2: When you're around your teammates.
Speaker 4: And around the arena and all that love, that's like,
Speaker 4: that's like helping him out as much as as much
Speaker 4: as it can. So, you know, shout out to him,
Speaker 4: prayers to him and his family. You know, good luck
Speaker 4: moving forward as well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely for sure. All right, let's move on to the
Speaker 1: East Indiana. A historic offensive performance versus a shorthanded Knicks team.
Speaker 1: I mean sixty seven percent from the field that has
Speaker 1: literally never been done before. I mean that is bananas
Speaker 1: in a play I think it's in any playoff game,
Speaker 1: certainly in a game seven, fifty four percent from three
Speaker 1: six players in double figures. Halliburton, who has had an
Speaker 1: uneven series drop twenty six, Yakam drop twenty and I
Speaker 1: just want to give them their due first, because I
Speaker 1: know we're going to talk about the Knicks health and
Speaker 1: the NIXT or the team everyone talks about. But to
Speaker 1: walk into Madison Square Garden in a game seven and
Speaker 1: be a young team that most of the guys have
Speaker 1: never played in a Game seven in that situation before,
Speaker 1: and stand up the way they did, I don't care
Speaker 1: who's on the other end and how beat up they are.
Speaker 1: I thought that was super impressive. The confidence that they
Speaker 1: came in with the belief and the activity. You know,
Speaker 1: game sevens in some ways are can kind of be
Speaker 1: crazy and all over the place, and they kept their
Speaker 1: focus and concentration. They played their game, the pace of it,
Speaker 1: the way they were playing. So I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure people appreciate that this was a very hard
Speaker 1: thing to do, no matter what was going on with
Speaker 1: the Knicks. And then, of course, on the other side,
Speaker 1: the Knicks had some health problems to under the understatement
Speaker 1: of the year. When og And and Obi came out for
Speaker 1: warm ups, it did not look good. And then when
Speaker 1: you get to when the game started, he just couldn't defend.
Speaker 1: And he scored five points in the first few minutes
Speaker 1: and gave them a little boost on offense. But when
Speaker 1: the Pacers went at him on the other end, they
Speaker 1: were four for four against him and he had to
Speaker 1: come out. So I don't know what do you guys
Speaker 1: make of that game? Overall and sort of how the
Speaker 1: Pacers won.
Speaker 3: I think they played through their strengths, which is, you know,
Speaker 3: their youth and their speed, and I think they realized
Speaker 3: that this Knicks team was starting to wear down, so
Speaker 3: I think they continued to put their foot on the
Speaker 3: gas and you know, they made the best of their situation,
Speaker 3: which led to them being successful. Obviously, coming into this series,
Speaker 3: I thought the Knicks were the favorite to come out.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you hate to kick a man while
Speaker 3: he's down. But this is a typical TIBs movie. Like
Speaker 3: it's like it's like going to see a Fast and
Speaker 3: the Furious move. You know exactly what the funk's gonna
Speaker 3: happen at the end of movies watch but you know
Speaker 3: exactly what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like, man, I think I felt like
Speaker 3: this series was the next to Wind. It's just you know,
Speaker 3: history repeats itself, which we said before, it's just not
Speaker 3: a recipe for success. I mean, playing seven guys an
Speaker 3: entire playoff run, that's that's really really hard to do.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, these guys aren't machines.
Speaker 3: They they're human beings. Like we wear down that's that's
Speaker 3: just that's a natural thing. It's natural instinct. Like your
Speaker 3: body wears down, your energy wears down.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 3: And you know, Tim's gotta figure out a new recipe, man,
Speaker 3: Like you can't. You can't keep cooking out of the
Speaker 3: same cookbook, bro and expecting you know, a different flavor.
Speaker 3: Like it's it's gonna be the same thing over and
Speaker 3: over and over again. So you you obviously you want
Speaker 3: to give credit to this Pacers team. But I think
Speaker 3: I think the Knicks lost this series. I don't think
Speaker 3: the Pacers win won it. I just think the Knicks
Speaker 3: win and lost this series. And that's how it played out.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 4: I give a shout out to the Pacers. Oh they
Speaker 4: You know. The crazy thing about Game seven is it's
Speaker 4: like the NCAA tournament like that one day, y'all, Like
Speaker 4: somebody can be on fire, like somebody can have a
Speaker 4: career night career like those Game sevens are so tough
Speaker 4: because anything can happen, and it's one game. And that's
Speaker 4: what Indiana did, like they stuck to what they were
Speaker 4: great at. We're gonna push the pace, try to score
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty points, which they did, and then
Speaker 4: see if see if the Knicks can keep up, like
Speaker 4: Indiana hit shots, and I think that's what gave them
Speaker 4: their energy. And they knew the Knicks was down bad.
Speaker 4: They knew, like at the end of the day, like
Speaker 4: books said, like they're human, like we gonna see if
Speaker 4: they can play catch up the whole game. We're gonna
Speaker 4: see if they can run run with us the whole game.
Speaker 4: And they did that, and it just it backfired on
Speaker 4: the Knicks. Obviously they had injuries, but like that's tough
Speaker 4: to do what they did, Like they got to make
Speaker 4: some real adjustments. They got to add I feel like
Speaker 4: they got to add a star player to take some
Speaker 4: responsibility off of you know, Jalen Brunson, because he had
Speaker 4: a lot like he did his thing in the playoffs,
Speaker 4: but he played a lot of minutes, and like like
Speaker 4: we've seen time and time again, it just it doesn't
Speaker 4: last as long as you need it to. Like even
Speaker 4: if they won that series and was going to play
Speaker 4: the Celtics, I was going to be tough to play
Speaker 4: six to seven guys that many minutes against a team
Speaker 4: well equipped like them.
Speaker 2: So at some point it.
Speaker 4: Was going to die down, and it just it just
Speaker 4: bit them in the behind. Game seven at home, Like
Speaker 4: you never thought the Knicks would lose a Game seven
Speaker 4: at home with all those with all those celebrities in
Speaker 4: the building like they like you thought it was Game
Speaker 4: seven of the NBA Finals. How many people in the building.
Speaker 4: So it was a tough situation for the Knicks to
Speaker 4: go out like that. But we always said like it
Speaker 4: was going to end like that at some point, just
Speaker 4: because those guys are human and they they they got
Speaker 4: no rest, and they have some major injuries, like some
Speaker 4: pivotal injuries that you you just can't you can't fight through.
Speaker 3: And to piggyback off of that, like sorry, Rach, but
Speaker 3: to piggyback off of that, you know, you don't want
Speaker 3: to sit here and just put this narrative on TIBs
Speaker 3: like he injures his players. But the fact that the
Speaker 3: matter is one, when you play guys that many minutes,
Speaker 3: it obviously increases the risk of injury. Like so that's
Speaker 3: just how they go hand in hand. On on top
Speaker 3: of that, Timms has this is no knock outside of
Speaker 3: Jalen Bronson. Tims has a team full of role players,
Speaker 3: like so it's only so far those guys can take
Speaker 3: you to expect. And I love Devin Chanzo. He was
Speaker 3: a teammate of mind. He's a great teammate, he's a
Speaker 3: talented work he is, but he's not a twenty point
Speaker 3: per game score like that's that's not who he is.
Speaker 3: The offensive bag just isn't deep enough and expect him
Speaker 3: to average twenty twenty five on top of being a
Speaker 3: guy playing forty eight minutes. Jalen Brunston playing forty eight minutes,
Speaker 3: he has to average forty just for you to have
Speaker 3: a chance at winning the game.
Speaker 2: Those just aren't that's that's not realistic. Like so.
Speaker 3: The point I was going to make, I do like
Speaker 3: this next team. I do think they have a great
Speaker 3: foundation right now, and I do think they have a
Speaker 3: bright future. But I think going into the offseason, they're
Speaker 3: going to have to make some important changes, not just.
Speaker 2: Like draft, they have to make important changes.
Speaker 3: And I think it's some guys out there that that
Speaker 3: fit into that, you know, that culture, in that style
Speaker 3: of play, and I think it starts with a wing.
Speaker 3: You know, a wing scorer to take some of the
Speaker 3: pressure off Bruston. You got guys like Bradley Beal and
Speaker 3: even though he has, you know, a trade clause in
Speaker 3: his deal. I'm pretty sure he'll be open and going
Speaker 3: to the next to play there. And you obviously got
Speaker 3: a guy and Jimmy Butler is not. I don't think
Speaker 3: the paradise is shining as much as it was in
Speaker 3: Miami at one point. You know, pat Riley came out
Speaker 3: with some pretty wild, you know comments. Jimmy Butler has
Speaker 3: a history with TIBs, so you can see a guy
Speaker 3: like that fitting in well. So I do think they
Speaker 3: can make some you know changes in the offseason that
Speaker 3: will get them over the hump and improve his team drastically.
Speaker 3: But you know it's gonna take them making some really
Speaker 3: important decisions this offseason.
Speaker 1: Well, look, when you look at the TIBs factor and
Speaker 1: the injuries and all of that, I think it's both
Speaker 1: is the answer. Because TIBs has not made the conference
Speaker 1: finals since twenty eleven, thirteen years, and he's only missed
Speaker 1: one year of that coaching, so clearly there is something
Speaker 1: about the way he plays guys because he's an excellent
Speaker 1: X and O coach. The adjustments he made throughout the
Speaker 1: series were great.
Speaker 2: You know, he.
Speaker 1: Just has had a reputation with running those players into
Speaker 1: the ground. It's why he is voted again. I think
Speaker 1: it was the third year in a row when they
Speaker 1: did the players survey, he was voted the coach that
Speaker 1: players who don't play on the Knicks currently would least
Speaker 1: like to play for Now. His team loves him. That's
Speaker 1: kind of all you need. But around the league, I
Speaker 1: think guys see the minutes that he puts on these
Speaker 1: guys during the year and they don't want to have
Speaker 1: their careers affected by that. So that's all real. However,
Speaker 1: I want to make the point that these injuries this year,
Speaker 1: I don't think they had much to do with being
Speaker 1: run into the ground. Julius Randall hurt his shoulder when
Speaker 1: someone fell on him. We had, let's see, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go through these, mister Robinson. As we saw with
Speaker 1: the Joel Embiid incident. That's not an overuse injury, right,
Speaker 1: Julius Randall got hurt after taking a charge. I'm by
Speaker 1: someone fell on him. Even in this last game. Jaylen
Speaker 1: Brunson broke his hand in this game when he was
Speaker 1: trying to make a steal. That is not an overused injury. Now,
Speaker 1: og Ananobi hamstrings, those are overuse so you can point
Speaker 1: to that one, but I do think that there was
Speaker 1: just a lot of bad luck with how a bunch
Speaker 1: of these guys got injured, and that's why he ended
Speaker 1: up playing these guys so much in the playoffs, because
Speaker 1: there just wasn't anyone left, you know, he had to
Speaker 1: kind of put everyone out there. And I just think
Speaker 1: we have to keep that in mind when we talk
Speaker 1: about the Knicks this year and Tibbs and his reputation
Speaker 1: and what he did or didn't do. Most of those
Speaker 1: injuries came with things, incidents that happened on the court,
Speaker 1: not sort of that overused thing where we saw og
Speaker 1: just kind of like him give out on a play
Speaker 1: and that that's different. But I think we have to
Speaker 1: remember how a lot of these guys got hurt. So
Speaker 1: there's that, and then you guys talking about what the
Speaker 1: Knicks need going forward. T what do you think Julius
Speaker 1: Randall's role on this team is going to be once
Speaker 1: he gets healthy.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Like you know, how quick the NBA
Speaker 2: turns on you.
Speaker 4: It's tough, Like he's an All NBA type of guy,
Speaker 4: all Star, but it's like if we got this far
Speaker 4: without him, like you think we could push it a
Speaker 4: little further, Like I'm not sure what they got in
Speaker 4: mind for a guy like Julius Randall. You know, hopefully
Speaker 4: he stays and he's still in the mix with the
Speaker 4: Knicks because he definitely makes Like if they had him,
Speaker 4: I think it would have been tougher.
Speaker 2: For Indiana to win for sure.
Speaker 4: But you just never know how how they look at it,
Speaker 4: Like Julius Randall is a special talent, but you know
Speaker 4: how the teams are, like it's like, what have you
Speaker 4: done for me lately?
Speaker 2: Especially if you've been injured.
Speaker 4: It can be that we might have seen him play
Speaker 4: his last game in the nixt uniform. You just never know,
Speaker 4: Like I'm not you know, I'm not guaranteeing that, Like
Speaker 4: I know he does make the Knicks better, but is
Speaker 4: that in the next future plans, Like so.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what they do.
Speaker 4: Like like Book said, like you definitely need to I
Speaker 4: feel like you definitely need a wing score and a
Speaker 4: guy that can defend as well, and to get take
Speaker 4: some responsibility off of off of Jalen Brunson because he
Speaker 4: has to do everything. And like Buog said as well,
Speaker 4: I don't want Dante and Josh Hart to have to
Speaker 4: do all these things that they're doing, Like their games
Speaker 4: ain't meant to play forty seven minutes and get twenty
Speaker 4: to twenty five points in games.
Speaker 2: That's not what they're built to do.
Speaker 4: Obviously they can do that, but for you to be
Speaker 4: a championship caliber team, those guys don't need to be
Speaker 4: doing those things at it on a nightly basis.
Speaker 2: So the Knicks have a lot of decisions to make.
Speaker 4: You know, hopefully Julius Randall is in the plays because
Speaker 4: he's a hell of a player, all star caliber player,
Speaker 4: but you just never know what their thoughts are moving forward.
Speaker 1: You think he plays for the next next season.
Speaker 5: Book No, oh man, Like I Tea said, the NBA
Speaker 5: moves quickly, and they turned.
Speaker 2: On you quickly. We've both experienced it. One day. You
Speaker 2: can be at the mountaintop.
Speaker 3: The next day you know you're you're out of their plans,
Speaker 3: or you know we're moving in a different direction, or
Speaker 3: you don't.
Speaker 2: Really fit the style of the team. So I definitely
Speaker 2: think he is.
Speaker 3: Obviously there's a chance he could be back, but I
Speaker 3: feel like he's in a great area right now. And
Speaker 3: I don't think the Knicks really know what they want
Speaker 3: to do moving forward yet, But.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're in the worst situation.
Speaker 3: Obviously, you have your star in Jalen Brynson is I
Speaker 3: think this team, I think they do know who they
Speaker 3: want to build around, which is the more important decision,
Speaker 3: which is Jalen Bronson.
Speaker 2: But who you put around him is going to be
Speaker 2: very important.
Speaker 3: And that's why I said they have some very important
Speaker 3: decisions to make this off season.
Speaker 1: Well, look, some of the guys you brought up would
Speaker 1: have to come through trade. You didn't mention any free agents.
Speaker 1: So maybe Julius Randall gets thrown into one of those packages.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. But it's going to be an
Speaker 1: interesting off season.
Speaker 4: It might it might be better for It might be
Speaker 4: better for him to get up out of there too,
Speaker 4: would I think, you know, it might be a better
Speaker 4: situation for him, So yeah, I think so fighting against
Speaker 4: being the leader of the team, fighting against being the man.
Speaker 4: And then he's been injured the last two years, like
Speaker 4: season India injuries. So like you might you might want
Speaker 4: a new fresh you know, some some fresh air somewhere else.
Speaker 4: But you, like like you guys say, you never know,
Speaker 4: you never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I just want my guy to be healthy. I just
Speaker 2: wanted to be healthy and get back right.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely, I want to move on to the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals. The teams still playing and it I
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel. You consider them your Celtics,
Speaker 1: you know at this point in your life. But I
Speaker 1: assume you're rooting for them, uh as they go forward
Speaker 1: here and just it's going to be an interesting matchup
Speaker 1: to see. Look Indiana as an underdog, there's no other
Speaker 1: way to say it, and it's going to be interesting
Speaker 1: to see if they can assert themselves in this series
Speaker 1: or not. And then the Celtics. You know, I have
Speaker 1: sympathy for Celtics fans and the Celtics themselves because they
Speaker 1: kind of feel like they're damned if they do and
Speaker 1: they're damned if they don't. You know, if they beat
Speaker 1: a team by twenty, it's like, oh, you haven't really
Speaker 1: had any real competition. And if they struggle against the team,
Speaker 1: it's like, why are you struggling against this team? It's
Speaker 1: been true, by the way, because you know when they
Speaker 1: struggle or they drop a game to Miami that has
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't have a bunch of their key guys.
Speaker 1: You drop a game to just a team that doesn't
Speaker 1: have Dnavan Mitchell out on the floor because you're sitting
Speaker 1: on the bench. I mean, I understand the criticism, and
Speaker 1: I also understand the frustration of the Celtics players. You
Speaker 1: can only play who is in front of you, and
Speaker 1: they have one indominant fashion, and there will be no
Speaker 1: matter what happens in the series, people saying, oh, the
Speaker 1: easiest walk to the finals ever. You can only play
Speaker 1: who's in front of you. And I just think it's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see whether Indiana can assert
Speaker 1: itself here. What do you think.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be polite and say that's a gentleman's sleep.
Speaker 3: All the way in my heart is telling me you're sweet,
Speaker 3: But like I said, I'll be polite and say a
Speaker 3: gentleman's sweep. I think I think the persons will be
Speaker 3: able to pull off, you know, win in their first
Speaker 3: home game. The energy would be crazy, all of those things.
Speaker 3: But this Celtics team has been dominant all year. They've
Speaker 3: been dominant throughout the playoffs. The only time they really
Speaker 3: lose is when they get bored or uninterested, which is
Speaker 3: crazy to even say in the NBA setting, but it
Speaker 3: hasn't really been a matchup for them in the Eastern
Speaker 3: Conference this entire year. And it's not gonna start now.
Speaker 3: This team has been here time and time and ship.
Speaker 3: They've been here since I t was doing this thing there.
Speaker 2: And this team is full of experience.
Speaker 3: They've been here, They've they've been locked in for the
Speaker 3: entire year. They're built for this moment. They have probably
Speaker 3: one of the most well constructed rosters I've.
Speaker 2: Seen in a long time.
Speaker 3: Just the Pacers overachieved this year, and I think they
Speaker 3: should be very happy about that. They they know they
Speaker 3: have something to build, you know, their future on They
Speaker 3: found them for down their foundational pieces. You know, they
Speaker 3: they got their coach. Everything is moving in the right
Speaker 3: direction for this pass team. But I think I think
Speaker 3: they they hit their stride like this, this is this
Speaker 3: is the end once they meet up with the Celtics team.
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to be you know, I don't want to,
Speaker 3: I don't want to on them.
Speaker 2: I'm just it's more oh it's no, not to the Pacers,
Speaker 2: but more credit to the Celtics. They're just that dominant
Speaker 2: And we've been calling the Celtics to be at this
Speaker 2: moment all year long, since you know, the beginning of
Speaker 2: the season. So, like I said, it's not gonna change now.
Speaker 3: So you know, I think they'll get a game and
Speaker 3: you know that's that'd be good for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: Like the Celtics are definitely the the more dominant team
Speaker 4: in this series. I got them winning it, but I
Speaker 4: do got Indiana. I don't think they're gonna blow them
Speaker 4: out every game.
Speaker 2: Boston. I think they're gonna it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna be blowouts like we think, but I
Speaker 4: think it's gonna be. For one, I think Indiana will
Speaker 4: win one game at home. They've been exceptional at home
Speaker 4: all playoffs. They're gonna have some good energy. But Boston
Speaker 4: is just especially if Porzingis comes back at some point.
Speaker 4: You never know if he's gonna come back or not.
Speaker 4: But I just think they're the better team overall and
Speaker 4: there they're going to get to the finals again for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Thing.
Speaker 1: The Holy Road thing is real. I mean that's going
Speaker 1: to be a little rubber meets the Road thing for
Speaker 1: this series. Because Boston has been foreign two at home,
Speaker 1: it's not as bad as everyone thinks. It's not fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty. I know that over the last three years
Speaker 1: they were five hundred at home blah blah blah blah
Speaker 1: on the playoffs. But this playoffs they're foreign two at home,
Speaker 1: which is respectable, but they are four and oh on
Speaker 1: the road, and Indiana is six and oh at home,
Speaker 1: two and five on the road. So those games in Indiana,
Speaker 1: where the Celtics have had so much success on the
Speaker 1: road and the Pacers have had so much success at home,
Speaker 1: I think are going to be pretty interesting, a little
Speaker 1: bit tooth and nail, so we will see what happens.
Speaker 1: I have tremendous respect for both teams and think the
Speaker 1: Celtics are going to be pretty dominant, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: All right again, I'm wearing my shirt here I want.
Speaker 1: This is a cute logo. By the way, I think
Speaker 1: this is like their secondary logo.
Speaker 2: I can't even really see it. I can't see it,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll send you a picture afterwards. But uh,
Speaker 1: we got to take a peek at what you have
Speaker 1: been doing over there. We've had the Chronicles of Boogie,
Speaker 1: which we've got to watch last week. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you caught it, but I want to show you,
Speaker 1: guys chapter two. Take a look.
Speaker 3: I want to, you know, learn this is find on
Speaker 3: my legs, find on my wind, pushing myself, helping my condition.
Speaker 2: I do it in chemistry with the guys, guys.
Speaker 3: Allowing them to learn me, figuring out tendencies, figuring out
Speaker 3: what the coach is looking for.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to come in and fit in
Speaker 2: and push this thing in our hearts.
Speaker 6: Well, I think the main challenge that we don't have
Speaker 6: a lot of time and I'll see us playing with
Speaker 6: him is you know, it's a blessing and it's our
Speaker 6: job to make sure that works seamlessly and in a
Speaker 6: short period of time. But you know, you need elite
Speaker 6: talent to win championships, and I think, you know, Bookie
Speaker 6: definitely brings us closer to that.
Speaker 2: It always feels good to you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So victorious day, I left out the shooting champion.
Speaker 7: Today we want to fight for home court advantage in
Speaker 7: the playoffs. With Boogie coming in the last three games
Speaker 7: of the season, that that adds a different, different threat
Speaker 7: that we didn't necessarily have.
Speaker 2: Well, he's obviously a phenomenal talent.
Speaker 8: He's an enormous body with with unbelievable hands, the ability
Speaker 8: to shoot, to pass, to play on the block, to
Speaker 8: dominate people physically, and I don't think there's a talent,
Speaker 8: you know, anything close to that in the league right now.
Speaker 9: So you know, you you you have to learn how
Speaker 9: to play through that, because he's obviously in a great
Speaker 9: position to be a go to guy for us and
Speaker 9: someone we can play through because he can, you know,
Speaker 9: get us some buckets, but he can also be really
Speaker 9: in selfish and make everyone around him better, which is
Speaker 9: his unique ability.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I know it would be a process.
Speaker 3: So just to see account of unfold when you start
Speaker 3: to shortly happen for me, everything's coming together at the
Speaker 3: right time. We do a more serious number. This is
Speaker 3: the point, you know, where we lock in. We right there,
Speaker 3: felas we got a little bit more to go. Seven wins,
Speaker 3: that should be we should have that number seven wins,
Speaker 3: you know, the.
Speaker 2: Seven wins times forty eight minutes. It's roughly three hundred.
Speaker 6: And fifty minutes of basketball where we have to show
Speaker 6: ergency in every position.
Speaker 8: We do that, we're champions in.
Speaker 3: The what's about every man fighting for the next man
Speaker 3: Game one shows a after the game.
Speaker 7: You know, we have the leading scorer, beating assist person
Speaker 7: per game player and Hassan and then now we had
Speaker 7: to book him to that train.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 10: I like our chances like coming down, like like we
Speaker 10: can subverbly talk to the other made playing by yo,
Speaker 10: why to come off with strange pop if he don't
Speaker 10: look back him, It's like defenders looking like, man, he right,
Speaker 10: what can I do?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: So it's like that's the kind of like advantage I
Speaker 10: feel like we have on this team with it.
Speaker 11: This is what real move is enjoy when it comes
Speaker 11: to the game play off basketball.
Speaker 12: M h, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. But last week we saw a lot
Speaker 1: of you off the court, going to the zoo, getting
Speaker 1: lost on your way at a restaurant, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. I love that we got so much on
Speaker 1: the court in this one, and the clip of you
Speaker 1: talking to the team leading the team, I would expect
Speaker 1: nothing less, and the dominance you're showing on the court,
Speaker 1: I firmly believe you should be on an NBA roster
Speaker 1: right now. But I also really love the fact that
Speaker 1: if that didn't happen this season, you still get to
Speaker 1: go hoop and you have those crowds screaming your name
Speaker 1: and all of those sort of things that come with
Speaker 1: the champagne, soap, locker room and those experiences. You know,
Speaker 1: wherever in the world they are are pretty cool and
Speaker 1: it's fun to see that everywhere.
Speaker 3: Oh I appreciate that, right, Oh yeah, I had to
Speaker 3: come to that point. But you realize it's so much
Speaker 3: basketball out here, so many more experiences to make, and
Speaker 3: you can still enjoyed his game wherever you decide to play.
Speaker 2: So that's where I'm just and just that smile, that
Speaker 2: smile you know how this ship is.
Speaker 3: Don't matter if it's the YMCA, it don't matter. I mean,
Speaker 3: you get that feeling, that same feeling you got as
Speaker 3: a kid. So I'm embracing and I'm having fun with it.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm loving where I'm at in life.
Speaker 3: So it's all good.
Speaker 2: Keep doing.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it well. Also, I t
Speaker 1: you you getting back on a roster and getting back
Speaker 1: in the league is inspiring story in itself and for
Speaker 1: both you guys. I just think you got bad turns
Speaker 1: by injuries and some management decisions after that, And I
Speaker 1: love the way both of you have just sort of
Speaker 1: continued to hoop. It's again super impressive. A lot of
Speaker 1: guys just check out and either one of you did that,
Speaker 1: and I think it's great. So there you go. Appreciate
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the finals. I'll be cheering Boogie to
Speaker 1: see it. There you go, everyone out there. You can
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Speaker 1: and catch you next week. See ya.
Speaker 2: Thanks