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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, good morning, good morning, Good morning, Arnie Spaniard,

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Speaker 2: k Fig. We're in for the guys tonight, for the

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Speaker 2: fellas Anthony Gargano and Jason Fitz. Did I say tonight?

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Speaker 2: I guess I meant this morning overnight. Who knows what

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Speaker 2: time it is. Appreciate you tuning on in on this.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna call it a Saturday morning, k Fig, because

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Speaker 3: that's what it is, Saturday morning, five o'clock a m.

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Speaker 2: On the East coast. Hope everybody's well, Good morning, k Fig.

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Speaker 2: And congratulations. I hear you're a brand new father, so

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Speaker 2: congratulations to that. Thank you, Thank you, Arnie, much appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Know what, It's still not nighttime over here as far

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Speaker 4: as I'm concerned. On the West Coast, it's still dark outside,

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Speaker 4: so we can call it Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Why not.

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Speaker 4: But thank you and for all the well wishes, especially

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Speaker 4: from all of our listeners on X as well and

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Speaker 4: from yourself and all the people are part of the

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio family.

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Speaker 2: I greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Now you your child is now two weeks old. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you had a boy. So funny because I just happened

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Speaker 3: to see an article yesterday which I just sent you

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Speaker 3: about the top baby names of the year. Your what

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Speaker 3: you named your son is number three on the list

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Speaker 3: for guys ryes.

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Speaker 4: My son's name is Oliver, and that apparently is the

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Speaker 4: third most popular boy's name of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Which is amazing because I never look Oliver is a

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Speaker 3: beautiful name.

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Speaker 2: Never would have thought it would have.

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Speaker 3: Made the top ten list on any year, yet alone

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Speaker 3: this year, as it all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: How did it become so popular? It just popped up?

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Speaker 2: And by the way, do you like.

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Speaker 3: That your son's name is on the top ten list,

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Speaker 3: which you preferred not be on the top ten list?

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Speaker 2: I prefer it not to be. Like.

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Speaker 4: The big reason why it was one of our options

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Speaker 4: for our sun is because it's it's common, but uncommon

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Speaker 4: enough that you would assume that there wouldn't be a

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Speaker 4: lot of people naming their son Oliver, especially these days.

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Speaker 4: It's more of an old school name, but it's not

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Speaker 4: so unique as if you know, it's something that was

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Speaker 4: made up out of thin air. In his hard to pronounce,

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Speaker 4: so kind of thought you'd be somewhere in the middle

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Speaker 4: with it. So it's like, yeah, Oliver is a it's

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Speaker 4: a cool name. It's a different name, but it's also

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Speaker 4: not super uncommon. But apparently it's just as common as

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Speaker 4: anything nowadays. Yeahcording to this list.

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Speaker 3: Now, I heard a rumor I really probably shouldn't bring

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Speaker 3: it up, and I heard it anyway, that Oliver is

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Speaker 3: a lot, a lot close to my first name, Arnie,

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Speaker 3: that you named it after me.

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Speaker 2: Is that true? And you just kind of change it

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Speaker 2: to Oliver.

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Speaker 4: We can't keep any secrets away from you, Arnie, absolutely

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Speaker 4: right after uncle Arnie.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly where it came from.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you that my parents were old school,

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Speaker 3: so they had old school names.

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Speaker 2: My dad's name was Seymour. All right, how many kids

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Speaker 2: do you say, hey, this is my friend Seymour. I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on now, and have you ever.

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Speaker 3: Seen a kid that's under twenty years old that's that's

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Speaker 3: named Seymour. We call them sy but and my mom's

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Speaker 3: name was Olegras so that wow. Yeah, yeah, not yeah,

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Speaker 3: really old school back then.

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Speaker 2: Congrat that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if you want to get ahold of

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Speaker 3: us on Twitter, it's real simple, reach me at Stinking

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Speaker 3: Genius one.

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Speaker 2: He's at kfig K figg and.

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Speaker 3: The number one and during the course of the show,

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Speaker 3: you know, since K fig is a brand new father,

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Speaker 3: if you've had any advice for him on being a father,

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Speaker 3: just going pass it along on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna started off K Fig.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start before we start getting into sports and

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Speaker 3: stuff like that advice that was given to me that

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Speaker 3: turned out to be fantastic. Did I pass along to

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Speaker 3: all new fathers out there? If you have to change

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Speaker 3: a diaper, you wait ten to fifteen minutes. That way,

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Speaker 3: if somebody comes over to the house, they go, oh,

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Speaker 3: let me change a diper. I never have to do it,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, but that they think it's

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Speaker 3: funny for just one time, so they end up changing

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Speaker 3: the diaper and you just kind of watch and kick

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Speaker 3: back and do nothing. So it's called a ten to

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Speaker 3: fifteen minute rule when it comes to changing the diaper.

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Speaker 2: How do you like that? I like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how well in a work an application,

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Speaker 4: because just in the short experience I've had with my

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Speaker 4: mother and my in laws, you know, as soon as

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Speaker 4: they smell something or something happens, you're like, well, it's

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Speaker 4: yours now. It's one of those see, grandparents only want

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Speaker 4: to be around for the fun stuff, right.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Once certain sounds start coming out of certain orifices, it's like,

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Speaker 4: oh no, it's not my grandson is your son?

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Speaker 2: You handle it.

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Speaker 3: Now, be honest. I know they're not listening. And I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you love your in laws. Do you kind of

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Speaker 3: wish they would just go and leave you guys alone now?

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Speaker 2: Or what I mean?

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Speaker 3: It's like, come on, all right, we got this. You

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Speaker 3: can't be with us for twenty one years. Now, let's

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Speaker 3: let us raise our kid, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, not at all. I love

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Speaker 4: my in laws. They're the best. My parents and her

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Speaker 4: parents get a long phenomenally. They're they're excellent, and they're

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Speaker 4: Linda helping hand, they're cooking us food, they're coming by,

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Speaker 4: they're helping out, they're helping change diapers and feed them.

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Speaker 4: So I have no complaints whatsoever. Come as often as

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Speaker 4: you want, We'll use the help. I love my mother

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Speaker 4: in law when she gives us money. So I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you this.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you one good, serious piece of advice and

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Speaker 2: it's probably not gonna sound you know, anything crazy.

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Speaker 3: Monday morning. You can never start too early Monday morning.

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Speaker 3: Go into your local bank and start the college fund,

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Speaker 3: because it's gonna cost you a gazillion dollars by the

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Speaker 3: time he's eighteen years old. And whatever it is, twenty dollars,

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Speaker 3: fifty dollars, one hundred dollars, doesn't make a difference. Just

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Speaker 3: start and because you don't get taxed on that money,

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Speaker 3: it's it's tax free income. Put it in there and

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Speaker 3: start saving now.

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Speaker 4: My friend Arnie, the day we got his social Security number,

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Speaker 4: that is the first thing that I did.

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Speaker 2: There, you got very first thing that I did. Trust me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, good for you. Congratulations. Any advice for k

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Speaker 3: Fig just send it on over to Twitter. You can

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Speaker 3: to start? My New York Nicks?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh?

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Speaker 3: They who's one eleven one oh six. They drop Game three.

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Speaker 3: It's now two games to one in favor of the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: You know, before the game even started, I said, well,

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Speaker 3: this is going to be a blowout. I pretty much

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Speaker 3: gave it. I thought the best play in the world

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Speaker 3: was taking the Pacers minus seven and a half. I

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Speaker 3: thought they were just gonna run away with this. I

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Speaker 3: wasn't even sure that Jalen Brunson was going to play

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Speaker 3: and then you saw that he wasn't right. He missed

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Speaker 3: of the game. There's no og Annobi, so that killed them.

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Speaker 3: The injuries were just piling up. But yet the Knicks

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Speaker 3: were able to stay in the game k fig And

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Speaker 3: as it was going along, they had a nine point

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Speaker 2: The fourth quarter. I'm saying, can we steal this one?

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Speaker 2: We steal this one. We could sit everybody for Game four,

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Speaker 2: we'd be up three games to nothing. No such luck.

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Speaker 3: The Pacers hit some big, big shots. What was it,

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Speaker 3: knee Brandt to won that hit the Yeah hard?

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Speaker 2: Yeah them hard. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: It's probably a little demoralizing. It's kind of a little

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Speaker 4: bit of a defeative. You're Indiana knowing as banged up

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Speaker 4: as the Knicks war that they were basically in that

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Speaker 4: when Brunson was banged up. Ojiannaoby didn't play, and now

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Speaker 4: I don't he might not play a couple of nights

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Speaker 2: That might still be up in the air as well.

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Speaker 4: It says that the Knicks, even on their worst night,

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Speaker 4: probably I know it's Look, it's a playoff loss, and

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Speaker 4: nobody ever wants to lose a playoff game. But if

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Speaker 4: you're in New York, you're probably encouraged that you can

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Speaker 4: be have those many injuries and play that poorly and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm encouraged. But then it's it really good to

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many times are you going to get

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Speaker 3: Burks to come off the bench right and score fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Points when he never plays right. I'm saying about who

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Speaker 3: He's been in the league fourteen years and you always

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Speaker 3: have to won that, you know, all of you.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Nick's bench. After Burks has scored fourteen,

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Speaker 2: I go, who else could we bring in that's gonna

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Speaker 2: give us like ten to fourteen? Why are these guys

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Speaker 2: Why are they making one, two, three, four five million

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Speaker 2: an emergency.

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Speaker 3: This is an emergency. There's a lot of injuries out there.

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Speaker 3: Why can't these guys play?

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Speaker 4: You know well, I mean there's obviously holes in the

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Speaker 4: games of these players. The deeper and deeper you going

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Speaker 4: to your bench, and you trust your starters a lot more.

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Speaker 4: You have a day off in between the majority of

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Speaker 4: these games, sometimes even two or three days off, so

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Speaker 4: you want to have your better, your best players play

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Speaker 4: the most amount of minutes whenever you can. I don't

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Speaker 4: want shake Milton out there deciding whether or not I

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Speaker 4: win a playoff series. I understand your logic, and it

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Speaker 4: does make sense to a degree, right, But I'd much

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Speaker 4: rather run you know, precious that you out there or

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Speaker 4: Josh Hart out there for forty plus minutes than throw

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Speaker 4: in somebody else which had the amends out there.

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Speaker 3: Ye had Burke's out there I mean, Burks had fourteen points.

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Speaker 2: They win this game.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't even vote for for MVP of the game,

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Speaker 3: even though Dante had thirty five points. But those fourteen

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Speaker 3: points were you moongous for the Knicks sit there and

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Speaker 3: then he missed a couple of shots. They took them

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Speaker 3: out of the game in the fourth quarter. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: One call here, one call there. I thought that Dante

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a gold ten, but there was so

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Speaker 3: It does kind of suck, though, that Carlisle was complaining

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Speaker 3: when you play at home, you get the calls.

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Speaker 4: Well, the encouraging thing is it didn't go so far

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Speaker 4: wasn't a disparity there. And see your point. The controversial

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Speaker 2: Look at this, man, they're playing two games and like

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Speaker 3: Now they had to play what four games in a

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Speaker 3: they certainly could have used a little bit of rest,

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Speaker 3: But no such luck from the NBA.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's the opposite of what happened with

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Speaker 4: You know, that's just how the schedule works itself out,

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Speaker 2: It already is. They're a tough, grinded out type of team.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know, And you may be right.

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Speaker 3: They have to steal one game, they have to take

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Speaker 3: Is too much pushing, shoving, physical play. Because I'll let

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Speaker 2: I like this.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to when they call everything and you

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Speaker 3: know we're going to the line thirty plus times for

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes off his play. Let them play a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting physical, but they're letting it go on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the ODP part about it, Arnie, And

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the exact stats are as far

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Speaker 2: Rulers are really physical.

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Speaker 4: Just keeping a close eye on that Clipper Dallas series,

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Speaker 4: don't necessarily mind it. They'm not going to allow guys

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Speaker 4: as it's consistent. That's what players always asked for, And

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Speaker 4: I think it's It hasn't caused a terrible product. We're

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Speaker 4: But I do think there's more of a flow and

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Speaker 2: Does that come from did that start before the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: we gotta let them play a little bit. We can't

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Speaker 2: be calling fouls, let them, let them get a little physical,

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Speaker 4: Or I there was a stat that I saw like

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Speaker 4: something to the effect of free throw. It's tempts across

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Speaker 4: let the players play. And I call so many fouls

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Speaker 2: It's just hard to get into a rhythm.

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Speaker 4: And you have certain teams like the Lakers who are

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Speaker 4: but grudge them. It's part of the strategy and if

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Speaker 4: it works, then do it. But the referees not bailing

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Speaker 4: So it seems to have rolled over from post All

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Speaker 2: I it's starting to bother me and actually jiggling.

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Speaker 3: Brunson does this a lot where if you're bringing the

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Speaker 2: You're like, oh, what you've done to me? I can't,

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Speaker 2: I can't go on, And then if you don't get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the old Chris Paul did that for a

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Speaker 4: many years. Yes, and a lot of those guys are

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Speaker 4: Donchi's complains. If somebody looks at him wrong, he looks

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Speaker 4: I think that to a certain degree it could be

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Speaker 4: they tried to find some way to punitively, you know,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know that you.

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Speaker 4: Can't do it, but I'm just saying I wish there

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously I'm enjoying the nixt Pacer series, but

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Speaker 3: My nineteen eighties. I know it's been a long time

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Speaker 3: We know what happened back then. I look, I know

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Speaker 3: it was a good thing for the Pacers, but you

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Speaker 3: can't keep drudging that up and then when Brunston went

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Speaker 2: I mean, ninety percent.

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Speaker 3: Of the people watching the game don't even know who

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Speaker 3: Will's reed was or what you're talking about, except for

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Speaker 3: old people like me. So I don't know, does that

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Speaker 4: Like Yeah, I'm okay. I understand why they do it,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean this is the James Dolan

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Speaker 4: most networks try to do. But to your point, most

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Speaker 4: Will Let's read I wasn't even born when that happened.

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Speaker 2: I'm old, so I totally get it. I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: All right, We're off and running. He's Kevin figures. I'm

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Speaker 3: If you didn't hear Kfig A brand new father of

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Speaker 4: I don't The lack of sleep is certainly not the greatest,

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Speaker 2: Always happen.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes he decides he naps when he wants to nap,

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Speaker 4: and you can have this all schedule.

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Speaker 2: Whether we're supposed to sleep for this.

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Speaker 4: Amount of time and that amount of time, it very

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if I were you, I would make the

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Speaker 2: wife get up because you gotta work.

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Speaker 3: My friend, you work all kinds of hours. You never

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Speaker 3: get any sleep.

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Speaker 4: You know this is true. This is true. We just

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Speaker 4: add him to another list of the full time jobs.

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Speaker 4: But it's all good. It's all love. I love and

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Speaker 4: appreciate every second.

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Speaker 2: That's really absolute. Absolutely, you'll have a blast.

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Speaker 3: The Nuggets over the Minnesota Timberwolves one seventeen ninety.

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Speaker 2: Didn't see this coming.

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Speaker 3: After Minnesota took the first two games in this series,

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Speaker 3: they go back home and they play flat like that.

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Speaker 3: You know, here's a chance to go up three games nothing,

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Speaker 3: pretty much knock out the defending champs and they just

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Speaker 3: get boat raced in this game.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards just said he was just flat, didn't come

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Speaker 2: out with a lot of intensity. This was I never

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Speaker 2: really thought that that you know Minnesota was gonna win

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Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 3: After I saw the first quarter, I'm like, they just

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Speaker 3: don't have it tonight. Now that obviously they could turn

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Speaker 3: it around, but they didn't look like the Minnesota team

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Speaker 3: the first two games.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure.

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Speaker 3: We've got a series now if Denver could take game

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Speaker 3: number four, but Minnesota had a chance to knock him out.

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Speaker 3: Everybody jumping on that Minnesota bandwagon? Are boss is a

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Speaker 3: Minnesota fan? Mister Scott Sapiro, Absolutely, Well, that's why I

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Speaker 3: asked him for a raise this week. I make more

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Speaker 3: than Colin Coward now. So he's in such a great mood.

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Speaker 2: He's just raisers for everybody, you know, vacations for everybody.

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Speaker 2: So if you ever wanted a raise, now's a good

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Speaker 2: time to ask Vig. But yeah, Minnesota had a chance

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Speaker 2: to end Denver. Now we're I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a series of list. Minnesota comes out strong in game

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Speaker 2: and goes up three games to one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand how they can come out as

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Speaker 4: flat as they did, knowing that they still had so

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Speaker 4: much to play for. Now, is that complacency you talk about?

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Speaker 4: They're a young team that doesn't have a lot of experience.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they just I don't know, if they just assumed

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Speaker 4: Denver was gonna roll over. If hey, we're coming back home,

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Speaker 4: we'll just ride them a minimum of the crowd, then

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Speaker 4: they'll just will suffocate them.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 4: They are defending champions for a reason, and Denver is

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Speaker 4: not necessarily looked dominant at all by any stretch. I

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Speaker 4: think they were down by double digits in every single

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Speaker 4: game against the Lakers in that first round series and

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Speaker 4: they ended up coming back and winning most of them,

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Speaker 4: obviously winning in five games. So it's certainly a different

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Speaker 4: type of Denver team, but they still have that championship pedigree.

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Speaker 4: And you're Minnesota. You're a young, upstart squad. You can't

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Speaker 4: afford to lay down and give games away because if

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Speaker 4: Denver all they need is a game happened like last

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Speaker 4: night for Jamal Murray, who I've been struggling to find

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Speaker 4: his confidence, and all of a sudden, they end up

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Speaker 4: turning this thing around. So you don't want to end

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Speaker 4: up playing with this situation. You want to make sure

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Speaker 4: you go back and win Game four and take a

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Speaker 4: three games to one league, because if this thing gets

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Speaker 4: tied up too too. I'm not big on guarantees, aren't you,

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Speaker 4: But I'll almost Charles Barkley Gearan damnt that Denver's coming

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Speaker 4: back and winning this series.

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Speaker 2: And you may be right on that.

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Speaker 3: You know, first of all, you'll catch and Murray didn't

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Speaker 3: have big games. I mean they had twenty four great

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Speaker 3: plus minus ratio, y'll kitch plus thirty.

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Speaker 2: They were refleshing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean but usually when you know, if

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Speaker 3: you would have told me Denver won by what was it,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven or something, I would say, oh, yo, kich

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Speaker 3: was not forty points or Murray must have gone off

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Speaker 3: for forty points.

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Speaker 2: Not the case at all.

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Speaker 3: They did have good shooting percentages, but it was really

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Speaker 3: a team efforts.

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Speaker 2: Every starter was in double digits.

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Speaker 3: They played a great game, and let's be honest, Minnesota

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Speaker 3: did not shoot the ball well at all.

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Speaker 2: That's what it was.

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Speaker 4: It was defensively, you know, they locked in defensively, Denver

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Speaker 4: din the Minnesota couldn't make a shot and they were

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Speaker 4: shot thirty percent from three and forty three percent from

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Speaker 4: the field in totality. And the big thing for me

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Speaker 4: was rebound because remember Gobert was out in Game two

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Speaker 4: for the birth of his child, and they got dominated

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Speaker 4: on the boards. Denver did despite the fact that Gobert

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Speaker 4: wasn't in the lineup. So now you introduce him back in,

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Speaker 4: you thought the advantage is going to clearly swing into

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Speaker 4: the favor of Minnesota yet again, and it didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: Go Bear in Town's combined for nine rebounds. That's unheard of,

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Speaker 4: that should never happen in any situation. Go Bear's averaging

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Speaker 4: ten twelve rebounds a night, every single night during the

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Speaker 4: regular season.

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Speaker 2: That was the most glaring thing for me.

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Speaker 4: Minnesota has been one of the best defensive teams in

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Speaker 4: the NBA all season long, again especially after the All

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Speaker 4: Star Break, and Denver shot fifty three percent from the

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Speaker 4: field in this game. They just Minnesota, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 4: just didn't have the answers. I do think there was

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Speaker 4: a situation where Jamal Murray was a little bit more aggressive,

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Speaker 4: a little bit more assertive, wasn't as passive as he

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Speaker 4: was the first couple of games and really took it

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Speaker 4: to him and Michael Porter Junior played better. But the

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Speaker 4: biggest thing for me is that Minnesota, to your point,

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Speaker 4: couldn't make shots. A big part of that is that

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Speaker 4: Denver ratcheted up their defensive intensity a lot.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, how great is he? I mean, is he

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Speaker 2: up gonna be up there with like the Kevin Durantz,

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Speaker 2: the Lebrons when his career's done, the people like that.

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Speaker 2: Are we making too much of him right now? He's

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Speaker 2: got a long way to go. He still has the

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Speaker 2: ways to go, but you've seen flashes of it.

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Speaker 4: Like up until Friday night, his numbers were ridiculous, like

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Speaker 4: the advanced stats. You know, he's made the majority of

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Speaker 4: the shots he's made have been contested mid range twos,

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Speaker 4: which is like one of the most inefficient shots to take,

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Speaker 4: but he was making him with high regularity. He's a

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Speaker 4: great athlete. He's improving as an outside shooter. This guy's limb,

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Speaker 4: what is he twenty two or something like that? Like,

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Speaker 4: he still has plenty of of of leg room in

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Speaker 4: front of him. So I don't think it's hyperbaly to

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Speaker 4: say that this guy is gonna be one of the

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Speaker 4: next great players in the in the future of the sport.

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Speaker 4: He's already shown such great glimpses and such great growth

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Speaker 4: are ready just a couple of years into his career.

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Speaker 4: So I'm buying. I'm drinking the kool aid. I'm buying

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Speaker 4: itt to Anthony Edwards, I am.

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Speaker 3: By the way, get your hands on the dump button

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Speaker 3: in case I'm not allowed to say this because the

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Speaker 3: boss may fire me for this. But I've already ordered

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Speaker 3: my Anthony Edwards New York Nick store.

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Speaker 2: You go say that, Can I get fired just like

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Speaker 2: you ordered your lebron James Kad Knicks jersey. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: run them all down, the Lyssia Shack Jersey. I'll tell you,

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Speaker 2: I love that. Those people up in Minnesota go, don't

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Speaker 2: you dare, don't you there say something like that. The

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Speaker 2: Boston's probably calling on the back line and going take

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Speaker 2: that out of the podcast. Yeah, but you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'll say this too, and Scott's not listening. I agree

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 4: So it might not be the Knicks, but it could

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Speaker 4: be the Lakers. It could be another big market franchise.

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Speaker 4: We know how these things work. You know. The people

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Speaker 4: like Kevin Garnett, who they basically had to kick out

630
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Speaker 4: of Minnesota to send to Boston are really few and

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Speaker 4: far between. Most of the guys who have star power

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Speaker 4: like that. You know exactly how this story generally ends.

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Speaker 4: He's Kevin Figures. I'm already span you.

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Speaker 3: You could reach us at Stinking Genius one, also at

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Speaker 3: k fike k FIGG and the Number one. We got

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Speaker 3: other series to get a hold of, and what's going

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Speaker 3: on with the Boston Celtics. All that coming up next,

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Speaker 3: But first let's see what's trending from last night, a

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Speaker 3: whole bunch of stuff. Let's check in with k fig

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: K fig? Yeah, already.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking about Friday night in the NBA,

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Speaker 4: the doubleheader and the matchup in the Western Conference where

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Speaker 4: Nicola Jokicic was one assist shy of a triple double

645
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Speaker 4: as Minnesota dropped that game to Denver one, seventeen to ninety.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned Rudy Gobert back in the lineup, but the

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Speaker 4: Wolves were out rebounded forty to thirty two on the glass.

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Speaker 4: In the East, Tyres Halliburton scored thirty five points Andrew

649
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Speaker 4: Nimhart the go ahead three pointer in the final seconds

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Speaker 4: for Indiana. They pick up a one eleven to one

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Speaker 4: zero six victory over the Knicks New York series lead.

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Speaker 2: There is now two games to one.

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Speaker 4: In Major League Baseball, the Padre snapped the Dodgers seven

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Speaker 4: game win streak a two to one victory there a

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Speaker 4: walk off Arbri single by new Padre Luisa Rise. The

656
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Speaker 4: Royals beat the Angels two to one for their third

657
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Speaker 4: straight win. Home runs for Matt Olsen and Ronald Decunya

658
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Speaker 4: Junior as Atlanta defeated the Mets four to two. In

659
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Speaker 4: the NHL, the Panthers defeated the Bruins six to two,

660
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Speaker 4: taking a two to one series lead. Edmondson a forty

661
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Speaker 4: three overtime victory over Vancouver to tie their series at

662
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Speaker 4: a game apiece, and e golf Xanders Schoffley a four

663
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Speaker 4: stroke lead over Jason Day and Roy McElroy through two

664
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Speaker 4: rounds at the Wells Fargo Championship.

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Speaker 2: Back to the Fellas, all right, there you go, Kate Fagan,

666
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Speaker 2: Arnie Spaniard, We're in for the Fellas this morning, Anthony Gargano,

667
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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz They've got the day off. Lots going on

668
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: with them, that's for sure. If you want to be

669
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Speaker 2: part of the show.

670
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Speaker 3: Like I said at Stinking Genius one, at KFIG one,

671
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Speaker 3: we get we always get a lot of tweets, so

672
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Speaker 3: I'll try to keep up with them as we go

673
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Speaker 3: through the Boston Celtics. You mentioned this earlier that what

674
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Speaker 3: during the course of the last what thirty games? I

675
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Speaker 3: believe it was, that they're fifteen and fifteen in the playoffs, right,

676
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Speaker 3: that doesn't sound like a super team to me. Remember

677
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: we were talking about this was a super team. Jalen

678
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Speaker 3: Brown said he won to win what five or six championships,

679
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Speaker 3: which was what about five or six years?

680
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Speaker 2: It was what Taylor Rooks? I remember that. That's right, Yeah,

681
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: that's not gonna quite work out. He's still working on

682
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Speaker 2: number one. What is going on with the Boston Celtics?

683
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Speaker 2: Did we overrate them? They were the number one seed?

684
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Speaker 2: Are things going to be fine? They lost one game

685
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Speaker 2: to Miami. Maybe they're just going to end up losing

686
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Speaker 2: one game to Cleveland. They've got the easiest road to

687
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Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals. I don't think it gets any

688
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: easier than what they've had so far. So are the

689
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Speaker 2: Boston Celtics in trouble or was it just a little

690
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Speaker 2: hiccup in one game against Cleveland?

691
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Speaker 4: I still choose to believe that it's a hiccup against Cleveland.

692
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: You know, Donovan Mitchell ended up going crazy, especially in

693
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Speaker 4: that second half, as he can do. He's a phenomenal player.

694
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Speaker 4: Great players can have those sort of performances. One thing

695
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Speaker 4: I will say about Boston and why they've had so

696
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Speaker 4: many shortcomings in the postseason these last few years, it's

697
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Speaker 4: really just how they're built. They live and die by

698
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Speaker 4: the three pointer, and if their defense has just a

699
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: little bit of slippage and they're not making their outside shots,

700
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Speaker 4: they're liable to lose, and lose badly. This has happened

701
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Speaker 4: multiple times over those series against Miami where they got

702
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Speaker 4: out physical they weren't able to make their shots. A

703
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: couple of series, the Bubble Series and last season like

704
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Speaker 4: these have happened multiple times against Boston. They just don't

705
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Speaker 4: there's a missing link in them as far as being

706
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Speaker 4: able to attack the paint.

707
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Speaker 2: A certain level of physicality.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean they can't win, doesn't mean they can't make

709
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Speaker 4: it to the NBA Finals, but that's sort of just

710
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 4: the issue. The chink in their armor is the fact

711
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 4: that if they are not making their three point shots,

712
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Speaker 4: they are not an effective offensive basketball team, and it

713
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Speaker 4: puts a lot of burden on their defense to be

714
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Speaker 4: able to overcome their offensive shortcomings. When that doesn't happen

715
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Speaker 4: and oftentimes when they lose, it looks like you did

716
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Speaker 4: the other night where the other team goes off offensively

717
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Speaker 4: because they have one of those Knights and Boston shoots

718
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Speaker 4: twenty percent from three.

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Speaker 2: Who would you rather have on your team? If I

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Speaker 2: give you a choice, Jason Tatum, Brown, Jalen Brown or Brunson?

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Speaker 2: Who would you have?

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Speaker 3: I know I want, but I don't even think. I

723
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Speaker 3: don't even think it's much of a choice.

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Speaker 5: Is it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think Jason Tatum is the best

726
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Speaker 4: player of the three, but he's not consistent.

727
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Speaker 2: There's a certain I work with.

728
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Speaker 4: Rodney p and he says, you gotta have a guy

729
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Speaker 4: that has a little bit of a dog in him,

730
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Speaker 4: And for some reason, I don't necessarily feel that Jason

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Speaker 4: Tatum has that in him. I almost feel like Jaylen

732
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Speaker 4: Brown has more of that in him than Jason Tatum does,

733
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Speaker 4: and even Jalen Brunson does as well. But I still

734
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Speaker 4: think Tatum, individually, from a talent standpoint, is the better

735
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Speaker 4: individual player before I grind it out being a leader

736
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Speaker 4: in the post season, a guy that I want to

737
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Speaker 4: ride with, I feel like i'd probably go with, probably

738
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Speaker 4: go with Jason Jaylen Brown. One and Brunson two and

739
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Speaker 4: probably with Tatum three. Right as that sounds, I know,

740
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Speaker 4: I get it.

741
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Speaker 2: I get it, especially with a guy in Jalen Brown

742
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Speaker 2: that has no left hand whatsoever.

743
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody knows it too. You can just force

744
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: him to the left. He's been trying to work on that,

745
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: but he just has no left hand he can dribble with.

746
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: He's had some duds, for sure, There's no question to

747
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Speaker 3: buy it. He has some flalls in his game.

748
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Speaker 4: But there's there's an element of toughness in grit that

749
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Speaker 4: I love and respect about him that I do think

750
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Speaker 4: there's a little bit lacking there with Jason Tatum.

751
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Speaker 3: With the series going to Cleveland, you think Boston gets

752
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Speaker 3: back on track, takes the next two, goes up three

753
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: to one, or they could have trouble with Cleveland somehow

754
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: drop a game and all of a sudden there is

755
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Speaker 3: two to two, or god forbid, maybe even down three

756
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Speaker 3: one as they head back to Boston.

757
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Speaker 4: Well, I think it depends on the health of Jared Allen,

758
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Speaker 4: to be honest with you, because I think he makes

759
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Speaker 4: a big difference in that series, rebounding, blocking shots, playing

760
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Speaker 4: defense for them, and they haven't had him and we're

761
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Speaker 4: still able to steal that game. So if he's able

762
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Speaker 4: to come back in Game three or even game four,

763
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Speaker 4: I think he makes a big difference. That'd being said,

764
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Speaker 4: I think Boston is a better team, but through the

765
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Speaker 4: course of a seven game series, they'll end up winning it.

766
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Speaker 4: But if if Jared Allen comes back healthy and as

767
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Speaker 4: an effective player for Cleveland, it would not surprise me

768
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Speaker 4: at all if Cleveland finds a way to push this

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Speaker 4: to seven games. And if that happens, they've already won

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Speaker 4: in Boston, so why can't they do it again?

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Speaker 3: You know everybody is rooting for and what I mean

772
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Speaker 3: by everybody, I also mean the NBA ABC exactly for

773
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Speaker 3: the Celtics and for the Knicks. Matter of fact, the

774
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Speaker 3: ABC came out and said that if all the series

775
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Speaker 3: goes seven games, which I'm talking about the Knicks and

776
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Speaker 3: the Pacers, Cleveland, Boston, Minnesota and Denver, if they go

777
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Speaker 3: seven games, that they're picking the Knicks and the Pacers

778
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: to air for a game seven.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they've already called it, all right. I thought I

780
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Speaker 2: read that yesterday that they've already called it. If those

781
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Speaker 2: three games go to to a game seven, I think

782
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Speaker 2: they're all in the same day. I'm not so sure

783
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: I would make that call right now. But I'm not

784
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Speaker 2: so sure that maybe Minnesota in Denver and.

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Speaker 4: Denver would be a great Game seven to put out there. Well,

786
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Speaker 4: but you also know how these things work, aren't you.

787
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: It's all about market power, So you want New York.

788
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: New York could be playing.

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Speaker 4: You know, it could be the Knicks versus Saint John's

790
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: or the Knicks versus whoever. They want the Knicks, they

791
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: want that New York television market. It could be a

792
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: dud of a game, but they want to have because

793
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Speaker 4: they know all eyeballs are going to be Look at

794
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Speaker 4: all the star power that I was at MSG these

795
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Speaker 4: first couple of games. You know they want to make

796
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Speaker 4: sure for a Game seven at Madison Square Garden. You

797
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: absolutely want to put that on the biggest stage, which

798
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Speaker 4: is a Sunday afternoon on ABC. So I won't begrudge

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Speaker 4: them that, even though I think, let's say Denver Minnesota

800
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Speaker 4: will probably be a much better matchup and a more

801
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: entertaining game. I do think it makes all the sense

802
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: in the world from the TV executives to put that

803
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Speaker 4: Knicks Pacer Game seven in primetime.

804
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Speaker 3: Absolutely you want to go ahead and get a hold

805
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Speaker 3: of us at Stinking Genius one.

806
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Speaker 2: He's at k FIG one. We'll come back. There is

807
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: one mother series going on, and k FIG wants to

808
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: know you think the NBA is a little worried that

809
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: the foreign players are starting to take over the NBA.

810
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna get all that coming up next right here

811
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

813
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Speaker 2: All right, good morning everybody. Arnie Spanier and ka Fig.

814
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Speaker 3: We're in for the fellas, Jason Fitz and Anthony Gargano.

815
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Speaker 3: Welcome back live at the Tireck dot Com Studios. Our

816
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Speaker 3: one just flying on.

817
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Speaker 2: Buy one of the series that we didn't have a

818
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Speaker 2: chance to get to the thunder in the Dallas Mavericks,

819
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Speaker 2: of course. Okay, see, I believe they were the number

820
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Speaker 2: one seed. I think we absolutely are. Yes, unbelievable, the.

821
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Speaker 3: Lack of attention. They're getting their series tied at one

822
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Speaker 3: game a piece. They'll play later today three point thirty

823
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Speaker 3: Eastern Time, one and one. That series tied up against

824
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Speaker 3: the Mavericks.

825
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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Also, wouldn't be surprised if that would end up going

827
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Speaker 3: seven games. Dallas two and a half point favorite at

828
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Speaker 3: home in this game.

829
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that Luca don finally has a running

831
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: made in Kyrie Irving that can help pick up some

832
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: of the slack. And the big issue with Oklahoma City

833
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: is whether or not they're too young. They just don't

834
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Speaker 4: have a lot of playoff experience. They clearly have the talent,

835
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Speaker 4: but whether or not they have that experience. And Dallas

836
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: has had their ups and downs throughout the postseason the

837
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Speaker 4: last couple of years.

838
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Speaker 2: They're more battle tested.

839
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Speaker 4: But I don't I wouldn't discount Oklahoma City just from

840
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: a matchup standpoint, because I do think they match up

841
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: pretty well of Dallas. It's just a matter of whether

842
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: or not they can hold their own the attrition of

843
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 4: a seven game series playing against too skillful probably two

844
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: of the most skilled ball handlers and scorers in the

845
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Speaker 4: NBA in.

846
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Speaker 2: Luca Nachik and Kyrie Irving.

847
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Speaker 4: That's why this is although it's sort of understated and underplayed,

848
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: it's probably the most intriguing series for me of the

849
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 4: series left is this one.

850
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Speaker 2: Who is your MVP?

851
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Speaker 3: By the way, was it Sga for Oklahoma City or

852
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: was it Jokic for Denver or somebody else.

853
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 4: And this is probably because of you know, fatigue when

854
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: it comes to Jokic, and I certainly believe that he

855
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: deserves MVP. I have no issues with it, not like

856
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: Shaq does and telling him to his face that he

857
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: shouldn't have won it. I would have given it to

858
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Speaker 4: shake Yodas Alexander to put up the number of the

859
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: efficiency that he had this season, The consistency he played

860
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: in almost every game was extremely durable for a young

861
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: team that doesn't have a lot of experience, for them

862
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: to be able to secure the one seed, and for

863
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: him to put up the sort of numbers that he

864
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: put up as a guard, I thought was extremely impressive.

865
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Speaker 4: So if I had a vote, it would have gone

866
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Speaker 4: to Shade Yodas Alexander. I certainly don't have an issue

867
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Speaker 4: with Jokic getting the award. I'm surprised that Jokic wanted

868
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 4: in such a large landslide the way that he did.

869
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Speaker 2: Do you think it?

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Speaker 3: You brought this up about our pregame meeting when we

871
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Speaker 3: were talking about stuff that we wanted to go through today,

872
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: that the NBA might be worried that foreign players are

873
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 3: starting to dominate the NBA.

874
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you think a lot of look, generally speaking,

875
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: fans want it's easier to relate to people that you know,

876
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: look like you sound like you don't have, you know,

877
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 4: heavy accents and all that. And that's not to sound,

878
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 4: you know, isolationist or anything. I think it's just a

879
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: matter of fact. And you look at the NBA. If

880
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 4: you talk about faces of the NBA moving forward, you

881
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 4: know who do we have at this point in time.

882
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: It's Jokic, It's Embeid. Yeah, now Edwards is domestic, he's

883
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: from Georgia. I think that's great, but he's probably like

884
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 4: the only one as far as I'm not talking about

885
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 4: Steph for Lebron, those guys are on the back nine.

886
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: They're on their way out.

887
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 4: But shake Yodas Alexander's Canadian like embiatus from Cameroon, Luka, Doncik, Jokic,

888
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: most of the best players in the NBA at this

889
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: point in time, guys you would consider to be the

890
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: quote unquote face of the league are guys who are

891
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: farm born. And I just wonder if that's gonna have

892
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: some sort of long long standing effect on the NBA

893
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 4: as far as ratings are, as far as popularity, especially

894
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: when it comes to crossing over. Like Arnie, you and I.

895
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 4: We work in this industry. We love the sport, we're

896
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: gonna watch regardless, But you know, the moms who sit

897
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: at home, the people that they're trying to appeal to

898
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: with these national ABC games, it's easier to appeal to

899
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 4: Steph Curry than it is to someone whose name you

900
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: can't pronounce, like Giannakunpo.

901
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right, You know, if you

902
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: would have told me ten or twenty years ago, would

903
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: it be a factor, I would say, you know, maybe,

904
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: I would say, you know, a lot of people don't

905
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: know a lot of the foreigner guys coming in nowadays, though,

906
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it makes a difference at all. I mean,

907
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: Joel Embiid, we don't bring up that he's not American.

908
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: We don't bring that up with Janni's also, and a

909
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: lot of people of him. So I don't think it

910
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: has the same effect, or I don't think it's as

911
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: big of a problem as it would have been like

912
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: ten or twenty years ago. You know.

913
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, and it's more of an international sport nowadays.

914
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: And look, I think even international soccer are certainly permeated

915
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: into the United States, where there's so many kids, especially

916
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 4: gen Z, who are big fans of international soccer. You know,

917
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 4: teams and players who they've never seen and probably never

918
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: some of them will never see in person. So there's

919
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: a globalization of sport that I do think aids in

920
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 4: that to a certain degree. But I do think there's

921
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 4: a certain element, especially just I'll just speak from where

922
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: I came from growing up in the inner city of

923
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 4: Los Angeles. You know, you related to people like Tracy

924
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: McGrady or Vince Carter, people that look like you, sounded

925
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: like you, people you aspire to play like.

926
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: And it's just a little bit different.

927
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's necessarily right or wrong that these

928
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: guys are now the faces of the league, a lot

929
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: of the foreign players, but it just hits a little

930
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: bit differently when it's not someone that you can necessarily

931
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: personally relate to.

932
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: You Look, I know you and I are not Shaquille O'Neal.

933
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: We've not waited in the far from it.

934
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: We're not NBA All Stars, we're not MVPs or anything

935
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: like that. But if I told you coming up next hour,

936
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: Yokic is.

937
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: Going to join the show and we're gonna interview him.

938
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: Would any question, whether it's the first question, middle question,

939
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: or last question, would you ever say to him, you know,

940
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: I don't think you deserve the MVP, but I mean

941
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: I understand that shack being shocked, But was that a

942
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: was that a good question?

943
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: Was that or was that fine to bring up?

944
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 3: Could you imagine if a regular media can you imagine

945
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: if I would have said that, yeah, I don't think

946
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: you deserved it, but you know, congratulations.

947
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he would have been so joking joking

948
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: about it.

949
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 4: You'd be at the top of the headlines of awful

950
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: announcing there are Andy, I'll tell you exactly what happened. Yeah,

951
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: Shaq gets away with it because he's shacked, but that's

952
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: really distasteful to do on that point in time.

953
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: Have your opinion. Once yo Kicch is off, just say,

954
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: you know what, I didn't.

955
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: Want to disrespect the guy in front of his face,

956
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: but personally I would have given it to Shay, But

957
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: no disrespect to Yokich. He's a great player x y Z.

958
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna sit there and tell him, Yeah,

959
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: you know what, I don't think you should have won it.

960
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: I would have given it to Shay. You're a great player,

961
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: but you didn't deserve it this year. I just don't

962
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 4: think it's everybody attacks.

963
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: Him say well, yeah, had him one, you should desid

964
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: something that.

965
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: It's just not necessary though people are gonna say what

966
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 4: they want to say regardless. People are going to criticize

967
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 4: Shack like we are now, and people want to criticize

968
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 4: Shack if you would have said it after the fact,

969
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: that before the fact, that not in front of his face.

970
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 4: I just think at that point in time, you're interviewing

971
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: him because he won the MVP Award, give him his flowers.

972
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 4: That's not the right time to tell him that he

973
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: doesn't deserve to get it. Give him his flowers, talk

974
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: about that, and then debate afterwards or before he comes

975
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: on about that. I just don't think it's a time

976
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: and play situation. And I just don't think that was

977
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: necessary at the time.

978
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 3: Now, if you want to be honest, and I'm not

979
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: just talking about Jokicic, but I could you know anybody

980
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: you're talking to instead of an individual award. Can you

981
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 3: imagine if Shaq said, you know, you were crying about

982
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: that foul but it wasn't a foul.

983
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what you were crying about. You got

984
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: a good block on you that I would like to hear, you.

985
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

986
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: See that's more legitimate. I'm with you on that.

987
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, like break out the old telestrator was like, now

988
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: if you see look like look to me that it

989
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: was a clear, clear as day, not a foul. What

990
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: do you say, Nicole, I'm watching the same tape as you.

991
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. That's perfectly fine, right.

992
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 3: I want to go through later out of the show,

993
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 3: and I know we're short on time about the refs

994
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: and the challenges. I don't know what you want to

995
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: challenge anymore. I'm like, oh, for a hundred when I'm saying, oh,

996
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: that will be overturned, that won't be overturned. But I

997
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: know this hour one in the books just cruised on by.

998
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 3: You want to be part of the show, real simple,

999
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: stinking genius one. You could reach Kevin Figures at kfig one.

1000
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: So make sure you use Twitter. That's the best way

1001
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: to reach us. So we do check it out.

1002
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: A lot, getting a lot on Twitter already this early morning.

1003
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: We'll come back.

1004
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: I want to get into pat bevery a little bit

1005
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: we'll reset the Nicks and the Pacers all next here

1006
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio.

1007
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1008
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 2: All right, everybody, good morning, good morning, Good morning, Arnie

1009
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 2: Span your k fake Kevin Figures. We're in for the Fellas,

1010
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano and Jason Fits on this Saturday morning. I

1011
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: think we could call it Saturday Morning.

1012
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 3: And if you want to get ahold of us, Twitter

1013
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: is the best way at stinking genius one at kfig

1014
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: one again. Congratulations that Kevin Figures had a baby two

1015
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: weeks well, his wife had the baby. I just assume

1016
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: he's from there for the ride two weeks ago.

1017
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Named Oliver. It's a boy at Oliver happened to be

1018
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: the third most popular name on the new Baby's list,

1019
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: So you had no idea that Oliver was going to

1020
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: make the top ten.

1021
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: No, why you think the top ten list is Kevin, Steven, Eric, Jonathan, Joe.

1022
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: You know none of those names made the list. None

1023
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: of those names made the list. So you think you're

1024
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: zigging and everybody else's nagging like you can't win. But

1025
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 2: it's all good.

1026
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: I told you my parents had all school names. My

1027
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: dad's name was Seymour. I remember my friend's parents name.

1028
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: One was named Felix.

1029
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: Nice. Yes, so they you don't do you that many?

1030
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: Dude?

1031
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: Dis how many you have a kid that's like ten

1032
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: years old? This is my friend Felix like Filks the Cat.

1033
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 3: I don't think I've heard that name in a long

1034
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 3: long time. There, Kvig, you know.

1035
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: I remember correctly. I feel like my wife was a teacher.

1036
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: I believe she had a student named Olga Olga Wow.

1037
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: Wow a throwback? Yeah, talk about real thing? Like, by

1038
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: the way, what is the if you If you haven't

1039
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: done this yet, that's fine, you could tell us what

1040
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: is the first thing you bought or was given? And

1041
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: what I mean by that is in like a sports

1042
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: onesie or a sports outfit. Have you bought a sports

1043
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: outfit for your son yet?

1044
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: Oh?

1045
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely so I have not so, but a lot of gifts.

1046
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: So my wife and her family are a huge Dodger fans.

1047
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 4: So there's a Dodger onesie.

1048
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. Are you a Dodger fan? Yeah?

1049
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: So I grew up an Angel fan.

1050
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: But oh, considering all things have been going the last decade,

1051
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: I'm really questioning my decision when it comes to that. Okay,

1052
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: So and then also we know I'm a big Raider fan,

1053
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 4: so so a friend of mine also brought me about

1054
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 4: a Raider T shirt. So I'm not your fan. Raider

1055
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: fan is kind of one of the same. To be

1056
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 4: honest with you, there's really little difference.

1057
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: It's all the same. No no fans. But you you

1058
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: know Chris Plank, he's a Raider fan. He is my God.

1059
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: Do you want your son to grow up a loser

1060
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: like all the other Raider fans out there? Come on,

1061
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: shouldn't you make him? I don't know a cowboy fan

1062
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: like everybody.

1063
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 4: Else because they've won eleft on a lot of running

1064
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: recent years.

1065
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I say Patriots, but Brady's out of the team. No, please,

1066
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: absolutely not. No. What about the Rams or something like that?

1067
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 4: Does he He'll grow up in southern California, so I will,

1068
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 4: though I will do my best to push the Raider

1069
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: influence on him if he decides to be a Rams fan.

1070
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: Haven't forbid a Charger fan. Fine, I'll let him do it.

1071
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: He'll carve out his own, but I'm certainly gonna do

1072
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: a heavy Raider push, to say the least.

1073
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: But you want him to be a fan of the teams,

1074
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: that you root for, right, so you take of the

1075
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: games and have a good time and all that stuff.

1076
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: Right, train them in the way he should go and

1077
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: the way he should get train washing him now, right,

1078
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: the way he should go was silver and black. That's

1079
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: the way I look at it. So I love it.

1080
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: Now, he's got to be a Laker fan right on

1081
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: thousand percent, Yes, no doubt. No Clippers. You can't have

1082
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: no Clippers, no outside team. That that's a mandate, that's

1083
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: an order. He has to be a Laker fan.

1084
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: What happens if he's a Clipper fan, then you guys

1085
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: are gonna be putting heads. His mom is gonna have

1086
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: to mediate at that point.

1087
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: His mom, who's not a big NBA fan, she'll have

1088
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 4: to be a play peacekeeper at that point.

1089
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: So you got these sports Onesie's going on, and uh,

1090
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot more coming your ways.

1091
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what about college? You do U, C, L,

1092
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: a USC anything like that.

1093
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: I grew up an SC fan. I'm fairly indifferent at

1094
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: this point in time. So wherever he wants to go,

1095
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: you know, it's fine for but however he wants to

1096
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: swing it. You know, college, especially college football is such

1097
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 4: a national sport. At this point in time, the regional

1098
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 4: feel with all these conferences becoming super conferences and by coastal,

1099
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily matter anymore.

1100
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: You know what, if Chris Plank.

1101
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: Wants to send him a sooner onesie, we'll put We'll

1102
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: put him in and why.

1103
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: Not, who cares? Yeah, I'll get it. I'm gonna send

1104
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: you in Arizona. Once there you go? Do it? Get

1105
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: everybody all over the now? Is that?

1106
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1107
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: Save yourself on some calls. That's exactly.

1108
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: By the way, those onesies they last about I don't know,

1109
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: three hours, so your kid out grows it that that's

1110
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: about it, right.

1111
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why a lot of people say, so I

1112
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 4: got you a three month shirt, a six month shirt.

1113
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 4: That's once It was like, yeah, all right, it makes

1114
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: sense to me because these things last about a week.

1115
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I got you a noon shirt,

1116
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: a three o'clock shirt, a six o'clock shirt, because your

1117
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: kids grow it all over the By the way, do you.

1118
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 4: Have a dog, you have a We don't have a dog.

1119
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: We planned, we plan to get one, but we do

1120
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 4: not have one currently.

1121
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 5: No.

1122
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: All right, so congratulations the k FIG. If you have

1123
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: any advice, for him now that he's a father. You

1124
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 3: can reach us on Twitter.

1125
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: Getting a lot of tweets this morning, it's stinking Genius

1126
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: one and k fig k F I GG and the

1127
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: number one.

1128
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna reset with the Knicks and the Pacers in

1129
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: a minute, but I do want to ask you about

1130
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: Pat Beverly.

1131
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: I was actually shocked, and.

1132
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: I know this happened earlier in the week, that he

1133
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: only got four games. I thought he was going to

1134
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: get a quarter of the season.

1135
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: I was way off on that.

1136
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: I heard people talking heads on TV saying that they

1137
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 3: thought he was gonna get half the season out there,

1138
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: and I started to actually believe that. I'm thinking that

1139
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: maybe he should have gotten either zero games or a

1140
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: quarter of the season. Now he said that something was

1141
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: said to him. I don't know if he's just making

1142
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 3: that up. He didn't give any inside of what was said.

1143
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: I don't think it was the word that everybody you know,

1144
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: we've heard before, right, because he didn't react that way.

1145
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I really wish if an athlete

1146
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: just did something wrong to say, you know what I

1147
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: reacted wrong. I don't know was something said. I didn't

1148
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: hear anything on the you know on the mic, we

1149
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: didn't hear anything there because if something was said, then

1150
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: he shouldn't be given any games.

1151
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: He was all in his right to do that. But

1152
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: there was a lot of people around. So yeah, but

1153
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: if somebody said something, somebody would have said, I would

1154
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: have backpaded up.

1155
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: Oh I heard it too, and I would have been

1156
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: pissed off as well. No one else said that. And

1157
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: you just can't, you know, any post malice at the

1158
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: palace world. You can't have a situation where a player

1159
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: is throwing a ball at a fan in the stands.

1160
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 4: Too many negative things can happen. Too many negative things

1161
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: can happen as an outcome of a situation like that.

1162
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm surprised he didn't get at least

1163
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: twenty games, at least one.

1164
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: Now, he threw the ball two different people, right, So

1165
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: did they both say that. I don't know that whatever

1166
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: what was said, And by the way, I noticed he

1167
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: didn't go out and elaborate more than what was said.

1168
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: Because if you're going to say something that perhaps isn't true,

1169
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: you're opening yourself up to a big lawsuit. Yep, Because

1170
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that hard to get the you know,

1171
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: Mike's all over the place down there, you would have

1172
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: to have one of I didn't hear any of his

1173
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: teammates even backing them up and say yeah, I heard

1174
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: that too.

1175
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: It was completely inappropriate. They shouldn't have said that.

1176
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have tons of witnesses who can cooberate and

1177
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: say what was or wasn't said at the time too,

1178
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 4: So if you want to sit there and make something up,

1179
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: that wouldn't be the best mode of action for you.

1180
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: And by the way, Pat unfort fortunately it's not his

1181
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: fault as Look, somebody certainly could have said something inflammatory

1182
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: and he even as a professional athlete, he shouldn't react

1183
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 4: that way. But there's certain things that are said that

1184
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 4: have a certain emotional and visceral reaction.

1185
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: He shouldn't do it, but you would understand if he

1186
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: did it.

1187
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 4: The problem with Pat is not that he's had run

1188
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: ins with fans in the past, but he's seen as

1189
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 4: a bit of a hothead, a guy that will pop

1190
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: off here and there, who's really emotional and is liable

1191
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: to go off at any moment in any situation. So

1192
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: he kind of doesn't have a benefit of the doubt

1193
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: in situations like that. Where someone could have just said

1194
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: something like like Russell Westbrook. He goes off on people

1195
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: calling him Westbrook, and he starts pointing out fans and yelling,

1196
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 4: yelling stuff. Would you rather someone not make a playoff

1197
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: words on your name? Sure, but they can also call

1198
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: you so many other worst things in Westbrick, you know

1199
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 4: what I mean for you to get pissed off about.

1200
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 4: So I just wonder if Pat Beverly kind of loses

1201
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 4: a little bit of whatever goodwill you would have just

1202
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 4: based on his reputation when it comes to that too.

1203
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: Oh.

1204
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: I think sometimes players are a little bit sensitive. I

1205
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: remember I was at a Sun's game. It was a

1206
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: pre season game. Okay, we're talking preseason. We're not talking

1207
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: real game, we're talking preseason practice.

1208
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: So we're talking preseason.

1209
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 3: And I was sitting court side, like the really expensive

1210
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: seats because it's preseason. I could you know, I would

1211
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: never get those type of seeds during the regular season,

1212
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: So I was actually like in the Jack Nicholson type seats,

1213
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about.

1214
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: And I was with a friend of mine. I even

1215
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: tell you that, you remember, you know who Steve Levy is.

1216
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: For me, as we're at the game. I thought, I'm

1217
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: going to show off a little bit.

1218
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: And I remember we're talking preseason and I tell Barkley,

1219
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: I go, why don't you play some defense for once

1220
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: in your life?

1221
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: Way you were heckling Charles Barkley the Son's game and.

1222
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: A preseason game, right, And you know one thing I

1223
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: didn't really notice about seats like that they hear you

1224
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: loud and clear, right, but they're like a few steps away.

1225
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: Barkley turns around to me and says, why don't you

1226
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: go blank yourself? And I'm like, whoa about?

1227
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 5: Dad?

1228
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: Why the attitude so much from when like a Pat

1229
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Beverly or like a Jamal Murray?

1230
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: Did you see? Were you surprised that Jamal Murray only

1231
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: got a fine? Fine? I was? I was, really honestly.

1232
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 4: I was kind of more surprised by that because you

1233
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: could have injured somebody by doing something like that. Your

1234
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: CASEP is the one that almost slipped on that. You

1235
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 4: almost injured your own teammate. That could have been a

1236
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 4: things out there right heating just a heating pad, I

1237
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 4: think two heating pads, but at least one right on

1238
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 4: the court as play was going on. I was so

1239
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 4: agreeious I'm surprised he didn't get suspended for at least

1240
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 4: a game for that.

1241
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: That fan.

1242
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: If I'm a fan and I threw a heating patter

1243
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: or any if I threw like a soda out there,

1244
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: I get banned.

1245
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: For probably for life. Yeah, from all NBA games, probably

1246
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: for doing something like that. Absolutely. My question to you is,

1247
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: we saw what Murray?

1248
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: Did You saw Pat Beverly after the incident.

1249
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: With the postgame interview when he gave the reporter a

1250
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: bunch of grief out there.

1251
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, I don't know, three four

1252
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: weeks of everything blends now, remember Lebron and Anthony Davis

1253
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: when they lost the game, they gave like a one

1254
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 3: word answer, dropped the mic, and they left.

1255
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: Yea, Anthony Davis right after Jamal mur We hit that

1256
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: game win er. I think it was in game twour

1257
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: or game three.

1258
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: Why the attitude? Why not? Seriously, I'm getting tired of

1259
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: athletes attitude. You know.

1260
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: I listened to Josh Hart yesterday and he could have

1261
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: easily just said the reps were against us, goodbye, and

1262
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drop the mic, I'm gonna walk off. But

1263
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: he gave real answers heartfelt answers. I mean, maybe he

1264
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: complained a little bit, but it wasn't like here.

1265
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, uh, they stole it from us.

1266
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm dropping the mic. I'm gonna walk off. I'm getting

1267
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: a little sick and tired of the attitude. Do you

1268
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: have any basketball questions? Murray said, Well, we want to

1269
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: know what you did. We want to know why you

1270
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: do it out there. You know, accept responsibility and tell

1271
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: us what the heck happened. Don't give us the attitude.

1272
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Don't give the reporters the attitude when you did something wrong. Kfig.

1273
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: If you said something wrong like, uh, the Nicks one yesterday,

1274
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: I said, no, the Pacers one. You're gonna give me

1275
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: at it. We're gonna attack you, but you were wrong. No, Dot,

1276
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 2: don't give me your attitude because you did something wrong.

1277
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,479
Speaker 2: That's I'm getting a little fed up.

1278
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 4: At that to be yes, just say you know what,

1279
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: I appreciate the question. I messed up. I had an

1280
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: error in judgment. I'm sorry for what I did. I'd

1281
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 4: like to be able to move on from this. I've

1282
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 4: paid my fine, restitution, whatever you want to call it.

1283
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 4: Let's move on and talk about tomorrow. Night's game.

1284
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: I got a respectful way that to answer it exactly.

1285
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: There was nothing and nobody will be grudge you that.

1286
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: We get it.

1287
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 4: We don't necessarily want to have to harp on it.

1288
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 4: But don't just sit there and be belligerent about the

1289
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 4: entire thing. That's what turns people off.

1290
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 3: And then Pat Beveriy, do you subscribe to my podcast?

1291
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: I give her credit for saying no. She could have

1292
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: lied and said yes, and I don't think he would

1293
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: have realized. It wasn't like he was going to look

1294
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: it up, and that was just a poor choice of

1295
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 3: things to do. There was no reason to take it there.

1296
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: But obviously he was upset about what happened at the

1297
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Speaker 3: end of the game.

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00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was said, he didn't say.

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Speaker 3: He didn't bring up but from what we heard, it

1300
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: was what three to two one cancun right is right?

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00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: If that's and if that's what we heard, which is

1302
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 4: a you know, a call back to something that Nick

1303
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: Van Nexwell said when he was with the Lakers years ago.

1304
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: Right at the end of it forever, Yeah, when they

1305
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: were on the.

1306
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 4: Verge of getting swept out of the postseason, and he

1307
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: said that at the end of team huddle.

1308
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: It's like they're gonna let that get to you. You're

1309
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: that sensitive. Yeah, that's ridiculous. It it makes you wonder.

1310
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: And it's not to only those four players too.

1311
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: You see it with a lot of players when you

1312
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: know they get frustrated and they just walk out and

1313
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: we have what was it like a ten or fifteen.

1314
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: Minute rule where we have the cool down rule.

1315
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 3: The cool down period. So I just think it's a

1316
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: bad look for them, you know what I mean?

1317
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: One thing I'll say sometimes and I understand players will

1318
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: get frustrated by the line of questioning or the way

1319
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: that questions are asked. Like Anthony Davis is a perfect

1320
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: example that when he slammed the mic down when he

1321
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: was asked about Jamal Murray hitting that game winner.

1322
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 2: In his face.

1323
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: The question was something to the effect of, so, what

1324
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 4: did you see there with Jamal Murray when he hit

1325
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: that shot? And now, if you're Anthony Davis and you're

1326
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: in front of the guy and you you contest it

1327
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: and he hits a shot in front of you, what

1328
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 4: are you supposed to say?

1329
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: He rose up, he hit the shot.

1330
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 3: Well, no, you could say, so he made a good shot.

1331
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 3: I was in I was there defensively.

1332
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: I thought I did everything can and I gotta give

1333
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: him credit for you're eating a big shot.

1334
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 4: You can say something. You're right, there's a respectful way

1335
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 4: to be able to answer that question. You're one hundred

1336
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: percent right, Army.

1337
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1338
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 4: But even after the cool down period, in an emotional

1339
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 4: situation where you had a twenty point lead, you wanted

1340
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 4: to try to get a stop there and hopefully go

1341
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 4: to overtime and get a victory, and you lose it

1342
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: in a pretty devastating way in your mind as an athlete.

1343
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 4: In Anthony Davis's mind, I have to sit here. I

1344
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 4: don't want to sit here and have to answer these questions.

1345
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: And you sit here and ask me what I probably

1346
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 4: think is a pretty stupid, stupidly worded question, is probably

1347
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 4: what he thinks in his mind. How do you expect

1348
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 4: me to answer that? What do you think I saw?

1349
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 4: I saw a guy hit a fade away in my

1350
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 4: face to win the game.

1351
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: So it has to be asked, though, right, you cannot

1352
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: not ask that question.

1353
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 4: You're right, and maybe and maybe there's a different way

1354
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 4: to ask it. I don't know, but just the yeah,

1355
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 4: what did you see there?

1356
00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: When?

1357
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 4: Jamalmar he hit that shot. I saw him fade away

1358
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: and hit a shot, and I fell into the Denver bench.

1359
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: That's what happened.

1360
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: That's that's what probably bothered him the most. He had

1361
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: to sit there on the on the bench while they celebrated.

1362
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 2: Front of him.

1363
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean that maybe asked this, how

1364
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: was it? How did it feel? The crash into the

1365
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 4: Denver bench as they're all celebrating around. That's the question

1366
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: I would have asked.

1367
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: You know, you could have said, just take us through

1368
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 3: the last play. That seems to be like the common question.

1369
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 3: Take us through the last play and and how how

1370
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: he got open to take the last shot or something

1371
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 3: like that.

1372
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean defensive strategy.

1373
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 4: Did you think of fouling because they had a foul

1374
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: to give at that point in time before he shot something.

1375
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: But I'm going to give you a question here, why

1376
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: should they be mad quote unquote Lebron James. It's just

1377
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: a basketball game, right, and now what he just said

1378
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago or whatever it was, it's

1379
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: just the basketball, isn't that what he said there?

1380
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what fans want to hear. Absolutely, just a

1381
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: basketball game. That I paid thousands of dollars to go

1382
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 4: see Sure, So why.

1383
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: Should they get mad if it's just a basketball game?

1384
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's no big deal. Yeah, Well I don't know.

1385
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: I don't you should get mad because you should get Yeah,

1386
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 4: because it means you have a pride and you care.

1387
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: I appreciate Anthony Davis being frustrated in a situation like that.

1388
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just get tired of the whole attitude. And again,

1389
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: like I said, if it's not Shamal Murray or Lebron

1390
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: or Anthony Davis or Pat Beverly or whoever, it seems

1391
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: like they like to take it out on the media,

1392
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: which is, by the way, you know, an arm for

1393
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: the fans. You're kind of taking it out on the

1394
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: fans when you do something like that. Right, We're just

1395
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 2: we as the media, just conduits to the fans.

1396
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: We're asking the questions that we believe the fans want

1397
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 4: to get answered, you know, so just you know, look,

1398
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: you know how this goes. It's in your contracts. You're

1399
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 4: getting paid all this money. You play a game. We

1400
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 4: understand it's emotional.

1401
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: You want to win.

1402
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 4: No one, no one says that you're just out there

1403
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 4: playing just to collect collect checks or anything.

1404
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you win or lose.

1405
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: It's your job to sit there in front of a

1406
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 4: podium answer the questions, and you can answer them respectfully.

1407
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 4: I don't think that's too much too much to ask.

1408
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

1409
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: You want to get in be part of the show,

1410
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 3: real simple on Twitter the best way to reach us.

1411
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm at Stinking Genius one. He's at Kfake, kf IgG.

1412
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: And the Number one. We'll come back. I want to

1413
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: get a little bit into ratings.

1414
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: K Fig has a fury on Donnie and small market rating,

1415
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: so we'll touch on that a little bit and kind

1416
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: of reset what's going on between the Knicks and the.

1417
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: Pacers all that. Coming up next, we're sitting in for

1418
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: the Fellas Anthony Gargano and Jason Fitz right here on

1419
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

1420
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 3: All right, good morning, everybody, Arnie Spaniard and k Fig,

1421
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: Kevin figures in for the Fellas Anthony Gargano and Jason

1422
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: fits on this Saturday morning, eleventh day of May. You

1423
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: want to be part of the show, real simple at

1424
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: Stinking Genius one, at k FIG one, Like Sean says,

1425
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: where was the promotion for this? I missed one hour

1426
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: and twenty minutes of the goat of sports talk. Yeah,

1427
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: we put it. I put it out on Twitter. Or

1428
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 3: is it filling in for the guys this morning?

1429
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: Though? Who who's up at that hour? You know what

1430
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 2: I mean? K Fig.

1431
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: By the way, did you work last night and not

1432
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 3: go to sleep and come in this morning?

1433
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that your hours of what's wrong with you?

1434
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 4: I worked in the afternoon at our local affiliate A

1435
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 4: and five seventy LA Sports, went home, took a little

1436
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: bit of a cat nap and then got up and

1437
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: came over to the Fox Sports radio studios around well,

1438
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 4: when I say ten thirty years so Pacific time at night,

1439
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 4: and I'm rolling right through into the early morning hours

1440
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: here with you, Arnie.

1441
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's tough, man, that's tough getting a little

1442
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: two three hour nap and try to move on. But

1443
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: you're your pro. That's what you do.

1444
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 4: Well, It's part of the routine, especially now with the

1445
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: little one. That's basically how it works. You get get

1446
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 4: naps in wherever you can. A full night of sleep

1447
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 4: is probably not in the works for the next few months.

1448
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 4: So I'm on well seasoned four. Let's put it that way.

1449
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you might as well get used to that.

1450
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: I was going to bring up the ratings because I

1451
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 3: know a lot of people don't care. The NBA would

1452
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: love to see the Knicks and the Celtics in the

1453
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Finals, no doubt about that.

1454
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1455
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: Other than the Knicks and maybe Denver, I don't think

1456
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: there's one that's really going to jump out the page

1457
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: and be a ratings grab or even if it is

1458
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: the Celtics. I just think it will be normal to

1459
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: good and I don't think it's going to go through

1460
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: the roof. Though I know our listeners really don't care

1461
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: about the ratings a lot of I'm wondering if the

1462
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: NBA is going to start trending down.

1463
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: If it's good for the NBA.

1464
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's so much small market teams,

1465
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: but the OKCS, the Minnesotas of the world, you know,

1466
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers. Is that good for the NBA that we

1467
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: start trending to teams like that, You know.

1468
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 4: I think it's good for the NBA in general if

1469
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 4: you're just a general, you know, fan of the sport,

1470
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: because I like having a little bit of a diversity

1471
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: and not necessarily seeing the Lakers, the Celtics, just the

1472
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: regular rotation of teams who are always there and getting

1473
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 4: some new blood. I like seeing Oklahoma City in Minnesota

1474
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 4: breakthrough a little bit and a non Lebron James Cleveland

1475
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 4: team with a young, good, young core breaking through and

1476
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: playing well. Yeah, from a TV rating standpoint, talking about

1477
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 4: transcending the everyday fan really outside of the Knicks and

1478
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit of the Celtics, Yeah, there really

1479
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 4: isn't a lot of crossover appeal because the problem is

1480
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: you don't have any next level superstars on any of

1481
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: these other rosters. Like Luka Donca is a great player,

1482
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: how well known is the outside of NBA circles though

1483
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 4: he doesn't transcend the sport. Steph Curry, Lebron James, those

1484
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 4: guys transcended the sport where people's grandmothers knew who they were.

1485
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: People's grandmothers don't know Jason Tatum, they don't know Luka

1486
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 4: doncic Orshei Yo, just Alexander. Maybe you'll know Anthony Edwards

1487
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 4: four years from now, but right now you don't. But

1488
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: you know the New York Nick franchise, Oh no, there's

1489
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 4: no superstar player and we love Jalen Brunson, but he's

1490
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: not a transcended player from a you know, personality global global.

1491
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: Reach standpoint either.

1492
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 4: So if you don't have a global reach player, you

1493
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 4: at least want a global reach franchise, and the Knicks

1494
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 4: would satisfy that at least.

1495
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1496
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: I didn't ask you before the show. I'm like, okay,

1497
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: you want to talk about this, We'll just get to

1498
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: it now. I'll just react off your take.

1499
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: But you were talking about the ratings and the rogue

1500
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: official back in the day of what Tim Donahey, is

1501
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: that what you were doing?

1502
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just found it interesting. So we hear

1503
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 4: Tim Donnie, the disgraced official who was gambling on games,

1504
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: some that he bet on, some that he he didn't,

1505
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 4: and but one of his claims when he was in

1506
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 4: the midst of being taken down was talking about a

1507
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 4: lot of shadiness that goes on in the NBA, specifically

1508
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: with officiating and specifically with officials and how they basically

1509
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 4: have mandates from the league to try to manipulate series

1510
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 4: and games to favor a extending series regardless of it

1511
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: was playing and b favoring teams from big markets, and

1512
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 4: you know, one of the seminole games that stands out.

1513
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 4: And by the way he says, Dick Bavetta, who people

1514
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 4: will remember, was a long time official All Star Weekend,

1515
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: he raced Charles Barkley and they kissed each other mid court.

1516
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 4: Dick Pavetta was kind of seen as what Tim Downey

1517
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 4: he called. I don't know if the fixer is the name.

1518
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 4: He had a specific name for it, and I don't

1519
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: remember what it is. If there was a game that

1520
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 4: the NBA wanted to swing in a particular way, Dick

1521
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 4: Pavetta was a guy they assigned to it, whether it

1522
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: was a Game six and he wanted to assure there

1523
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 4: was a Game seven, or there was a major matchup

1524
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 4: of including a big market team that they wanted to

1525
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 4: extend to make sure that that big market team stayed

1526
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: in it. I'm not saying that shadiness still goes on

1527
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 4: or any of that. It's a different regime. David Stern

1528
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 4: is not there anymore. We now have Adam Silver. But

1529
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 4: when when Rick Carlisle goes out and says like small

1530
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: market teams need to get our, you know, our fair

1531
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: share of calls and all that, maybe he's just pandering.

1532
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just talking.

1533
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna sit here and act like that

1534
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 4: hasn't been a thing in the past that certainly was

1535
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 4: not discussed.

1536
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: Who was it?

1537
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 3: Was it Joey Crawford that was the referee every time

1538
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: the Pacers law the Spurs lost.

1539
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: Is that what it was? They were like, well, oh,

1540
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: in eighteen or something. I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me.

1541
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: I know Joey Crawford had issues with Tim Duncan.

1542
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: Yes, and there he to Tim Duncan out of a

1543
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: gate for staring at him.

1544
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he cursed at him and say he challenge him

1545
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 4: to a fight, Tim Ducky can put you in his pocket,

1546
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 4: like what's wrong with you? You know? And it's and

1547
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 4: Scott Foster, who by the way, was kind of right

1548
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 4: in the thick of the Tim Dominie situation. Those guys

1549
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 4: exchange multiple phone calls before and after games that donnae

1550
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 4: he bet on, but Scott Foster, Chris Paul's record against

1551
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 4: and Scott Foster games are something like totally atrocious, and

1552
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 4: Scott is aware of it and make Chris aware of

1553
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 4: it during a game in the Bubble in twenty twenty

1554
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 4: at a certain point. So there are still some shady

1555
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 4: things that get a lot of conspiracy theorists going, but

1556
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 4: just based from a business standpoint, it is certainly what

1557
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 4: makes sense. It will behoove the NBA to try their

1558
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: best to make sure that's, say, a New York Nick

1559
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 4: franchise stays in the postseason as long as they possibly can.

1560
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 4: Now whether or not they're telling officials explicitly, I need

1561
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 4: you to make sure that the Knicks win this game,

1562
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 4: versus if it's a fifty to fifty ball, maybe give

1563
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: it to Brunton or Ananobia, don't give it to Halliburton.

1564
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 4: Maybe that's happening, maybe it's not. I'm just saying it's

1565
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: something that has been floated out there throughout the years

1566
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 4: in the wake of the Tim donnee situation.

1567
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: You know a story that you may not know about,

1568
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: some shady stuff going on. Matter of fact, I'm going

1569
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 3: to tell you about it when we get back, because

1570
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: I think this was actually admitted by David Stern, the

1571
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 3: old commissioner, a long walng time ago after the Donahue

1572
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: situation came out. So I'm going to tell you about

1573
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: this story. I'm pretty sure it's true. If it's not true,

1574
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: i'm sure we'll hear from the NBA but through by

1575
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: the way, shortly after the show, our podcast will be

1576
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 3: going up. If you missed any of today's show, be

1577
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports

1578
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to follow,

1579
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: rate and review the podcast. Remember to rate me higher

1580
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 3: than everybody else. I just want you to do that again.

1581
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

1582
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: You'll see this show posted right after we get off

1583
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 3: the air. If our producers do it, who knows.

1584
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes they're lazy and they want to go

1585
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: out and party and stuff like that, but we'll try

1586
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: to get that up. Well, come back, I'm gonna give

1587
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 2: you that story. You're really gonna want to hear this story.

1588
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: It's a pretty good inside gambling type official story. So well,

1589
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: I not coming up next, but first, let's see what's

1590
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: trending from last night.

1591
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 2: We check in with k Fig. What's going on? K Fig?

1592
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 5: All right?

1593
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 4: Well, as trending is, we had two NBA playoff games

1594
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 4: on Friday night, and both teams that won staved off

1595
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 4: a potential three nothing series deficit. So in the Western

1596
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 4: Conference Denver all over Minnesota one seventeen to ninety. You

1597
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: had twenty four points, fourteen boards, and nine assists from Nicola,

1598
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 4: okch Nuggets holding the Tea Wolves to just forty three

1599
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 4: percent shooting on the night. So Minnesota's lead is now

1600
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: two games to one. In the Eastern Conference, Andrew Nimar

1601
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 4: hitting a deep three pointer with sixteen seconds remaining, giving

1602
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 4: Indiana a one eleven to one zero six victory over

1603
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 4: the Knicks. They were short handed without olg Nnobi in

1604
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 4: the lineup. New York's lead is two to one in

1605
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 4: that series. In the NHL, Edmonton beat Vancouver and over

1606
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 4: Time four to three, tying their series at a game apiece,

1607
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: Panthers dominating the Brewin six to two to take a

1608
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: two to one series lead.

1609
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: There.

1610
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: In Major League Baseball, the Padres walked off the Dodgers

1611
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 4: two to one, Luisa rise with the RBI single there.

1612
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 4: In the ninth Dylan Moore three hits and five RBI

1613
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: for Seattle in a eight to one victory over Oakland Rangers.

1614
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 4: Worrez seven to zero for the Philadelphia Phillies. They hammered

1615
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 4: the Marlins eight to two.

1616
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: Back to the Fellas all right, thanks lot k Fig,

1617
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: Arnie Spanier Kevin Figures on this Saturday Morning Rent for

1618
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 3: the fellas Anthony Gargano and Jason Fitch. You want to

1619
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 3: be part of the show, real simple apps stink at

1620
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 3: Genius one, at k fig one. I think you're gonna

1621
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 3: like this story.

1622
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: When Tim Donahey got caught and there was a press

1623
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: conference from the NBA. I believe it was David Stern

1624
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: at the time. I'm pretty sure it was.

1625
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 5: It was.

1626
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: Yes, somebody asked him and I don't know the exact question,

1627
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 3: but paraphrasing something like that, has this ever happened before

1628
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: with an official? And David Stern quickly said no, well,

1629
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 3: you know, we had that one incident and just brushed

1630
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: it off and nobody really asked him anything about it.

1631
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: I believe the one situation he's talking about is with

1632
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 3: a clockkeeper.

1633
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: I believe up.

1634
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 3: I don't even want to tell you the team because

1635
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to if I got the team wrong.

1636
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 3: I don't want the long time clockkeeper something to get

1637
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 3: in trouble. Vegas caught this, by the way.

1638
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: There was a team that the games kept going over

1639
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: and over and over betting the over right really and

1640
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: they couldn't figure it out, so Vegas kept bumping up

1641
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: the line and the games would still go over and

1642
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: over and over. And you know, Vegas is not stupid.

1643
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 2: So they watched the games and they found something out.

1644
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: They found out that the clock keeper of this NBA

1645
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: team would start when the ball was inbounded. He would

1646
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: start the clock one to two seconds late every time,

1647
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: so he would you would actually drag the game out

1648
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: by a couple of minutes, by like three minutes, you

1649
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Sure if you and nobody's paying attention,

1650
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: if you're shaving off a second here the ball's inbound.

1651
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes the players don't even touch the.

1652
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 3: Ball, they want to roll up, they touch it, you

1653
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 3: go one, two boom, Then you hit the thing. Believe me,

1654
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 3: nobody's watching, and you could really extend the game, I

1655
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 3: don't know, three minutes, four minutes, something like that.

1656
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: It's pretty significant enough to make the games go over.

1657
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: They caught him, really obviously fired him. But he was

1658
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: the rogue clockkeeper for a team in the NBA. That

1659
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 3: goes to what you were saying that maybe some craziness

1660
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 3: or you know, some insight stuff goes on. That was

1661
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: one of them that you really don't know much about

1662
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: the back of the story. I don't know the guy's

1663
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 3: name or anything like this, but Vegas caught them and

1664
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: they found out what was going on, and they put

1665
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 3: an end to that real quick, because that's the best way.

1666
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 5: You know.

1667
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 3: People always say, well, you can't fix games because the players,

1668
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 3: you know, they make so much money.

1669
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: Why would they want to fix a game.

1670
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: Well, here's a way of a clock keeper getting way

1671
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 3: to fix a game like that.

1672
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that doesn't happen more, you know.

1673
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 4: I agree, well, and an easy way, and Tom dan

1674
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 4: Donnie explained this like a way to fix it. To

1675
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 4: fix a game is usually not about who wins and loses,

1676
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 4: but it's about the point spread. The team is up

1677
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 4: by eight and the spread is six and a half

1678
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 4: and there's two minutes to go. You know, something that

1679
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 4: you can pass off as maybe it was a foul,

1680
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 4: maybe it was in three minutes ago, is absolutely a foul.

1681
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 4: Now put somebody on the line, right, you know. I mean,

1682
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 4: there's it's very easy to be able to manipulate a

1683
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 4: line in a game, very easy from an officiating standpoint.

1684
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so I thought that was kind of interesting.

1685
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 2: I don't think it really goes on much now.

1686
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 4: To be honest, there's so many checks and balances, replay review,

1687
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 4: although they finally want to screw that up a lot too.

1688
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: Even with replay, the reps do a bad job.

1689
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 3: I mean, here you got Carlisles saying you missed like

1690
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 3: fifty calls in the first two games. The Knicks could

1691
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 3: probably come up with fifty also, and then of course

1692
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 3: when you see the last two minute report, it's like, oh,

1693
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 3: we screwed up these five things or something to that effect.

1694
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 3: Is it just tough to referee the NBA or do

1695
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 3: they screw up? I know when Major League Baseball put

1696
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 3: it out about the umpires, they say they make like

1697
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 3: one hundred mistakes a game or something crazy.

1698
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: Though, seriously, something crazy like that. Or are just officials

1699
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: just really bad at their job or what I mean?

1700
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 4: Well, officiating any professional sport is tough because so many

1701
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 4: things are happening at a trillion miles an hour, and

1702
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 4: you almost have but there's.

1703
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: Like there's like what seven or eight NFL officials out there.

1704
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: You got three NBA officials. I mean, you got people

1705
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:56,879
Speaker 3: helping you though.

1706
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 4: And also arenie everybody every official is assigned a certa

1707
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 4: part of the court or the field that they're watching.

1708
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 4: So I feel like your eyes are dart and left

1709
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 4: and right all over the place to figure out what

1710
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 4: you're looking at. You have one specific a referee looking

1711
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 4: to see look at the offensive line or what's in front?

1712
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: Is there a hole?

1713
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 4: Is there a rough and the passer is there? And

1714
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 4: it's amazing how often they miss these calls. Hey, look,

1715
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 4: it happens. They're human, I get it. The issue that

1716
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: I and I think of us that most of us

1717
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 4: have is the fact that you look at something on

1718
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 4: replay review and you say, how did you miss that?

1719
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: How do you how do you spend five minutes of

1720
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 4: our time looking at this and still make the wrong call.

1721
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 4: That doesn't make any sense, And that's what frustrates people.

1722
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 3: Do you think they're doing a good job on the replay?

1723
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 3: I'm talking about it in the NBA now, I'm shocked.

1724
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 3: Even when it went for my Nicks, I'm shocked because

1725
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: they said no foul here, or I'm like, wow, we

1726
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: mugged the guy, yeah, and they they're overturning it. I'm

1727
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 3: I don't even understand now, what's an overturn? What's not

1728
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 3: an overturn? I'm I'm scared every time they go to

1729
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 3: the review on that. It's crazy NBA. I don't think

1730
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 3: they're doing a good job with it. Yeah, and I

1731
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: don't know how you police it more.

1732
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 4: And by the way, so I think the NBA, they

1733
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 4: all have these replace centers, like the days of you know,

1734
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 4: they put the headsets on, they look at the screens.

1735
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 4: But nowadays, I know the NHL has a replace center,

1736
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 4: the NFL has a replay center now, so they have

1737
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 4: people who are assigned in a room in New York

1738
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 4: or wherever else to sit and walk through and look

1739
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 4: at these tapes with these guys. And they still that's

1740
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 4: supposed to end up helping the situation.

1741
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: But I don't know. It might be too many voices.

1742
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sure what it is, but there's too

1743
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 4: many occasions to your point, where we see something we

1744
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 4: think the call is clearly obvious, and yet they come

1745
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 4: back out a replay review and they say that it's not.

1746
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 4: And the worst thing is, Arnie, when they come back

1747
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: in the too many report that you reference and contradict

1748
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: what they said happened in the replay.

1749
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: Do you think there's too much crying in the NBA?

1750
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we see people complain about lack of

1751
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: sometimes a flag being called in the NFL, and you know,

1752
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: I just don't see an NFL lineman getting in the

1753
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: lineman's face every time going He's holding me, he's holding me.

1754
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: He's only you know what I'm saying.

1755
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: Maybe they say something, but not to the point like

1756
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 3: the NBA players were. They're just chewing out the reps

1757
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: for like a minute or two. The coaches, I mean,

1758
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr once said I would never talk to anybody

1759
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: the way I talked to an NBA rep out there.

1760
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 3: I mean, these coaches, they just breat the NBA reps.

1761
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1762
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: And see, and that's where the human element of being

1763
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 4: an official, where some guys wear on you and why

1764
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 4: And that's my be And by the way, it's not right.

1765
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 4: I'm not saying this is why Chris Paul's numbers against

1766
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 4: Scott Foster are so bad? Or why do you mentioned

1767
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 4: you know who was with sim Duncan and Joey Crawford.

1768
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: You know, sim Duncan never said anything to anybody.

1769
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 4: So I don't know what the situation was there, but

1770
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 4: you can see potentially where certain officials are just like

1771
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 4: you know what, not now, don Nelson leave me alone

1772
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 4: or not?

1773
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: Now?

1774
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 4: Whoever leave me, I don't want to hear it tonight.

1775
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 4: And if you hear, they start chomping at you, maybe

1776
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 4: there's a fifty to fifty call that you say, you know.

1777
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: What, bleep this guy.

1778
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 4: I'm going against you just because I don't like you,

1779
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 4: or just because you said something.

1780
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: To me earlier. Shouldn't be that way. But when you

1781
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: have a human element involved, those sort of things end

1782
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: up happening. And so you're right.

1783
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 4: I do think the NBA plays and coaches end up

1784
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 4: hurting themselves. So that's why Rick Carlisle I applaud him

1785
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 4: for saying there was twenty six miss calls in game

1786
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 4: one and we didn't say anything right, But you undid

1787
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 4: all that goodwill by calling them out after Game two?

1788
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: So what good did it really do you? Now, Look,

1789
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 2: it's none of my business what you make at Fox

1790
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, but I'm going to assume you don't.

1791
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 3: Make a half a million dollars a year that would

1792
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,560
Speaker 3: be accurate. I'm just gonna go out of there, so

1793
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 3: I can't confirm that. So would you prefer or would

1794
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: you like to be an NBA ref?

1795
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 2: Make yourself.

1796
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 3: Don't they make what about four to five hundred thousand

1797
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 3: dollars a year? They get the fly first class. You're

1798
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 3: working what two games a week?

1799
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 2: I don't think you're working more than that. He might

1800
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: wait three games a week something maybe three week And

1801
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: is that a bad life? Is that a bad life?

1802
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: For what? And playoff money's bonus money? By the way,

1803
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: would you like to be an NBA rep for what? No?

1804
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't want the headache.

1805
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 4: I don't like they say, Yeah, money can buy happiness

1806
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 4: to a certain degree, but that's not a job that

1807
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 4: I would enjoy.

1808
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: I would not enjoy being an NBA official, and the

1809
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: money would not make me happy. I'm sorry. You know.

1810
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: I used to be friendly with Ed Hockeley.

1811
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 3: You know Ed Hockey, Yeah, in the NFL, and I

1812
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: had it, actually had him on the air once and

1813
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 3: I said, let me ask you a question.

1814
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: I was just having fun with him. I go, what's

1815
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: a makeup call?

1816
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 5: Ed?

1817
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is? What's a makeup call?

1818
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 2: And he starts laughing. Here's I want you to know something,

1819
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 2: ar He goes, if I screwed up and made a

1820
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: mistake in front of millions of people, do you think

1821
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 2: the very next play, I want to screw up again,

1822
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: just to make it even you think.

1823
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: I want to screw up back to back plays now,

1824
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 3: I mean, really think about that for a second.

1825
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: I go, you do have a point there, you know, well.

1826
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 4: And also consider like players we talk about all twenty

1827
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 4: two and coaches film and players get evaluated and the

1828
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 4: tape don't lie. Like the referees have that too. They

1829
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 4: have officials, they have reviews. Yeah, watch the officials and

1830
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 4: the ralls, the calls that they make and all of that.

1831
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 4: And so if you make a bad call and double

1832
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 4: down and make another bad call, that goes against you,

1833
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 4: and that's one or two fewer playoff games that you work,

1834
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: and that might end up costing you a super Bowl

1835
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 4: two or three years down the line.

1836
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: On Twitter, by the.

1837
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 3: Way, Tony says Spaniards more overhyped another performing than the Celtics.

1838
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit the like button on that one. We're

1839
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: gonna come back. I want to get to the Lakers

1840
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: a little bit. Who's their new coach and who their

1841
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 2: new player is. We'll get to all that coming up next.

1842
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 3: Sitting in for the Fellas right here on Fox Sports

1843
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 3: All Radio, All.

1844
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: Right, Good morning everybody. Arnie Spanier and k Fake Kevin Figures.

1845
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 3: We're in for the fellas Anthony Gargano and Jason Fits

1846
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 3: on this Saturday morning show. Just flying on by. We're

1847
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 3: almost at halftime. Power Hours coming up next. I want

1848
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 3: to get into the Lakers a little bit. The Lakers,

1849
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 3: I guess sham Sharani, I get that right.

1850
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 2: I was mispronounced his name. Alan says that the Lakers

1851
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: are going to draft Browny in the second round. First

1852
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 2: of all, we both know that he shouldn't be drafted

1853
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: in the NBA. They're doing it because of Lebron too.

1854
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 2: They shouldn't draft him at all. He should just sign

1855
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: as a free agent. That way, the Lakers get an

1856
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 2: extra pick in the second round. But he's doing it

1857
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: because he wants that ego.

1858
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 3: He wants to say I was drafted by the Lakers,

1859
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 3: not signed as a free agent. Look, I don't like

1860
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 3: the way this whole thing is working out. I don't

1861
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: think he can help the Lakers. I think he's a

1862
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 3: good player, but I don't think he's NBA ready. I

1863
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 3: don't know if he'll ever be NBA ready. This is

1864
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 3: a narrative by Lebron just wanting to play with his son.

1865
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 3: Lebron probably only has about three years left in the NBA.

1866
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 3: That's why he's pushing this. I just don't like the

1867
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 3: way this whole thing's going down, you know.

1868
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: Oh, it's ridiculous.

1869
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 4: And the fact that a proud franchise, a historic franchise

1870
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 4: like the Lakers, would have to stoop to doing something

1871
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 4: like this just to appease Lebron James so he doesn't

1872
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 4: leave is pretty ridiculous.

1873
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: A lot of scouts say.

1874
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 4: That LEBRONI can probably be a very solid NBA player,

1875
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 4: a rotational player if he was a college guy. He's

1876
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 4: a freshman. He was a true freshman that had a

1877
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 4: heart attack and almost died. So rockets, you know, so

1878
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 4: I give the kid credit. Like from a talent standpoint,

1879
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 4: they think he has the skill level defensively, he can

1880
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 4: be a three and D sort of player, but he

1881
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 4: needs to hone his skin and probably stay in college

1882
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 4: for two more years, let alone come out after his

1883
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 4: freshman season talking about being a first round pick or

1884
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 4: to your point, even a second round pick is absurd.

1885
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: And the fact that the Lakers will be.

1886
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 4: Willing to I don't want to say throw it away,

1887
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: but essentially give away a second round pick on a

1888
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 4: guy that doesn't deserve to be taken. There is completely

1889
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 4: and utterly ridiculous to kout out to someone to it

1890
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 4: to a forty year old who, granted is still playing phenomenal,

1891
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 4: He's a great player, he's still one of the top

1892
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 4: three players in the entire NBA. But you can't bend

1893
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 4: over backwards as a franchise for this guy and draft

1894
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 4: his son just to make sure that he stays.

1895
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: If that's the case, if he says it's.

1896
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 4: Either Brownie and me or I gotta or have to

1897
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 4: walk away, then I say by and say we're just

1898
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 4: gonna build with Anthony Davis and find somebody else.

1899
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 2: To bring in with you.

1900
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure to let Lebron walk away, considering

1901
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what Anthony Davis is going to do

1902
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 3: or when he's going to cry and demand a trade

1903
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 3: because he doesn't have Lebron anymore.

1904
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 4: You know what, I might welcome that. If he wants

1905
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 4: to demand a trade, cool, then where's your where's yours?

1906
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 4: Such a where's your franchise going to be?

1907
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: At?

1908
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: That?

1909
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 5: Well?

1910
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 4: Your rebuilt, You get rid of a forty year old

1911
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 4: and you get rid of a guy in Anthony Davis

1912
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 4: who who doesn't more than forty eight games a season

1913
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 4: with the exception of this past year, and you're trying

1914
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 4: to build around somebody that's actually gonna play.

1915
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 2: How about you?

1916
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 3: Do you like the rumors about JJ Reddick being the

1917
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: next head coach? And before you answer that, if you

1918
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 3: say no, it better be more than just busy wears

1919
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 3: his hat back.

1920
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:20,480
Speaker 2: What ridiculously? Well, you know, I hear Colin.

1921
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 3: Say that, I know he's got something to it, but

1922
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 3: I don't think, well, I don't think I'm gonna, you know,

1923
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: not hire a guy because he wears his hat back.

1924
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: No, it's it's totally ridiculous.

1925
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 4: Now my issue with JJ Redick is, hey, look, this

1926
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 4: is kind of just where the NBA has been the

1927
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 4: last few years. So many guys getting opportunities to be

1928
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 4: head coaches with no experience. I mean, I don't think

1929
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 4: Jason Kidd was an assistant before he got his first

1930
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 4: rade coaching job. I think it was with the Nets

1931
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 4: at the time. So this this happens for whatever reason.

1932
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 4: So for a guy that comes straight out of the

1933
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 4: broadcast booth to be a head coach is certainly not unprecedent.

1934
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 4: Steve Kerr was never an assistant. He was a front

1935
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 4: office guy, became a head coach with Golden State. So

1936
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 4: I can't sit here look listening to JJ Redick. He

1937
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 4: certainly obviously knows the game. He's a smart guy, but

1938
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 4: being able to manage personalities the x'es and o's, especially

1939
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 4: big personalities like Lebron and Anthony Davis. Seeing all the

1940
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 4: coaches the Lakers have run through, I think they've had

1941
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 4: six head coaches in thirteen years, which is insane. That's

1942
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 4: not something that a proud franchise generally does.

1943
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Speaker 2: So you said the x's and o's, Let's be honest,

1944
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times is the coach calling out

1945
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: plays during the course of a game. You just need

1946
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: the balance egos, That's what it's all because very I

1947
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: mean what they calling it, maybe the start after a

1948
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: timeout or something, but there's no way Lebron's coming down

1949
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: to the court. You're going RD play three. Lebron rud

1950
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 2: play three. Well.

1951
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 4: I think one of the bigger issues that Darvin Ham

1952
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: had this year when it came to certain matchups defensive strategies,

1953
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 4: offensive strategies. It's been written about by Shams and Sam

1954
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,520
Speaker 4: Maymi and a bunch of others. Darbnham had one strategy.

1955
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 4: They broke the huddle and Lebron was like, Okay, we're

1956
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 4: not doing that. We're gonna do this.

1957
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: So that's what.

1958
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 4: There was a game against the Clippers or the Cliff

1959
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 4: Lakers were down. Darbnham had a defensive strategy that Lebron said, well,

1960
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 4: this doesn't make any sense.

1961
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: Lebron on the fly changed it.

1962
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 4: The Lakers came back and won the game, and that

1963
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 4: was kind of like the beginning of the end of

1964
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 4: Darvenham losing the locker room.

1965
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Speaker 2: So there is some of that stuff does matter. It

1966
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: will probably be a good coach, I would think so

1967
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: if he wants to be sure. But Magic wasn't a

1968
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: great coach Larry Burdett worked out for.

1969
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, the most great players are not Yeah, to

1970
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 4: your point, most great players are not. So, but I

1971
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 4: would like to Lebron certainly has the brain to the

1972
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 4: intellect for it, whether maybe not the chatients the patients

1973
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 4: for it, which is usually the downfall of the great

1974
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 4: players when it comes to coaching.

1975
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not really sure. Two hours are in

1976
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: the books where at halftime will come back, resetcond more

1977
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: into the Knicks Pacers series. It is the.

1978
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Speaker 3: Power Hour of the show. All that coming up next

1979
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Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports or Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1981
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1982
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Speaker 2: of the show. Arnie Span your k fake Kevin Figures.

1983
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1990
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1991
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Speaker 2: know I got a new jeep. What are those Sahara wranglers? Oh?

1992
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Speaker 3: I gotta get those big old gnarly tires. You know

1993
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Speaker 3: what I'm talking about? And you know I gotta get

1994
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Speaker 3: those winter tires pretty soon. And gotta worry about the

1995
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Speaker 3: snow up here in Vermont.

1996
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1997
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Speaker 4: give you that raise?

1998
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Speaker 2: All right? Nice?

1999
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Speaker 1: I like it.

2000
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 3: Hey, our boss is the biggest Minnesota fan I'm talking

2001
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 3: Minnesota everything. Yes, Twins, Vite wild Tea, Wolves, everything. So

2002
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 3: now that Minnesota's had a little bit of success, I

2003
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: encourage everybody at Fox Sports Radio to ask for a raise.

2004
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Speaker 3: I now make more than Colin Coward just doing weekends

2005
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Speaker 3: because he's in a good mood, so he raises for

2006
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Speaker 3: everybody out there.

2007
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's like money bags from Monopoly, making it rain.

2008
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: You know what's funny, you mentioned that I just saw

2009
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: a video yesterday about the guy that fixed the McDonald's

2010
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: lottery game. You know, Oh yeah, that whole documentary. Yeah.

2011
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: Crazy is that he won, like he got twenty four

2012
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,959
Speaker 2: million dollars or something. That's insane.

2013
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Speaker 3: I don't think I could ever apply be sweating too much.

2014
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Speaker 3: I don't think I can enjoy the money knowing that

2015
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 3: they were gonna coming after me, you know what I mean.

2016
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Speaker 4: Pretty elaborate scandal too, So it was absolutely rimillions, I

2017
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Speaker 4: believe is the name of the documentary.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's on Hulu, it's one of

2019
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Speaker 2: the streaming services.

2020
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Speaker 3: Wow, I mean it always you know there's a guy

2021
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: that has figured out like lottery percentages right and plays him.

2022
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 3: I think up here in the East coast and has

2023
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 3: won the lottery a bunch of times.

2024
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Speaker 2: So that's wild.

2025
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Speaker 4: Yeah, for something that's supposed to be completely random, that

2026
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 4: you can find a way to toil it.

2027
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible, absolutely crazy. By the way, k FIG

2028
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 3: and new father congratulations. Okay, baby boy two weeks old

2029
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 3: by the name of Oliver. So if you have any

2030
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 3: fatherly advice for k FIG, we would certainly appreciate it.

2031
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 3: Stinking genius one and at k FIG one, are you

2032
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: gonna get a lot of advice from your in laws

2033
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 3: and people that have kids already or not?

2034
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: Really?

2035
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: Sure?

2036
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I accept it.

2037
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Speaker 4: And look, I have two young nieces who are two

2038
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 4: and one, so I've had a little bit of experience,

2039
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 4: you know, delving into two children and what it takes

2040
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 4: to a certain degree. Certainly not on the twenty four

2041
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 4: to seven tip like I'm on now, but yeah, and

2042
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 4: I welcome Indy and all advice because look, this is

2043
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 4: my first child. I'm not gonna say, ther necklick, I've

2044
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: had this all figured out. I certainly do not.

2045
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 2: So nobody has it all figured out, let me tell

2046
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: you that, right, So by all means, send it my way.

2047
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, send it again to stinking genius one or at

2048
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 3: K fig one. I already gave Kfig my advice, which

2049
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 3: is the fifteen minute rule. When you have to change

2050
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 3: a diaper, wait fifteen minutes in case somebody comes by

2051
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 3: the house and they'll go, oh, how cute. Can I

2052
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 3: change the diaper for you? Because you know they just

2053
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 3: do it once they think it's funny. So you know,

2054
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 3: hopefully somebody comes by the house in fifteen minutes, otherwise

2055
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 3: you got to change it.

2056
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Speaker 2: Have you been changing a lout of diapers? Or I've

2057
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: changed so many diapers?

2058
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 4: Best is when you're in the middle of changing a diaper,

2059
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 4: one of them is off, you're getting ready to put.

2060
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: On the new one, and then you know, here comes

2061
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: there comes more. So, do you have a diaper genie?

2062
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Is that that they still have that? Or it's not

2063
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: quite the diaper genie, but it's it's similar to it.

2064
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so you get rid of the dirty diapers

2065
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 3: in there so it doesn't stink up the place, right.

2066
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, that was a great invention. I'm sorry I

2067
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 4: didn't invent it myself.

2068
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Speaker 2: Oh could you imagine thigs have changed? Yeah? Since I

2069
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 2: was a dad, no doubt about that.

2070
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 3: All right, so you can get in had Stinking Genius

2071
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 3: one at k FIG one and we'll take your advice

2072
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 3: throughout the course of the show. Show just flying on by.

2073
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 3: We started with the Knicks and the Pacers. All right,

2074
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 3: Knicks up two games to one, very easily could have

2075
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 3: been three nothing. The Knicks played their hearts out. Jalen

2076
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: Brunchon had to miss a little bit of the game.

2077
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 3: You saw that he was taken out of the game

2078
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 3: when he missed his first three shots. His right ankle

2079
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 3: tweaked a little bit there. He still hit some pretty

2080
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 3: big shots, but let's be honest, he wasn't nearly the

2081
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunchman we've seen so far in the playoffs. Hit

2082
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 3: that big three pointer that tied it up, right, and

2083
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 3: then who with the big three pointer? For was a

2084
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 3: nim hard nim hard Yeah, but even buried it from

2085
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,480
Speaker 3: it seemed like half court, to be honest.

2086
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: It was. It was a desperation like that. Yeah, yes,

2087
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: he stroked it.

2088
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't like he threw with one hand, like overhead

2089
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 4: or anything, but but it was it was up against

2090
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 4: the shot clock. That's a shot you won him taking

2091
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 4: that shot, you know, nine times out of ten, He's

2092
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 4: probably not gonna make it.

2093
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: He just happened to make it at that time.

2094
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 4: But Jalen Brunson, dealing with the ankle, as you mentioned,

2095
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 4: had a hand issue in the previous game.

2096
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: This guy's just getting way too beat up. And this

2097
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: is something people.

2098
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 4: Talk about when you have a guard dominated team trying

2099
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 4: to make a playoff run. When one player as the

2100
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 4: shoulder so much of the burden and that player is

2101
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 4: a guy in the back court, it's just really really

2102
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 4: difficult to make a deep run and make it to

2103
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 4: the finals with the conference finals, and if you do,

2104
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 4: that guy's going to end up bringing out of gas.

2105
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 2: It's just it's just too much for him. He doesn't

2106
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: have legit number two.

2107
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 4: This is where not having Lennonobi and more specifically, not

2108
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 4: having Julius Randall, someone that can take the offensive burden

2109
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 4: off of him, is really just going to end up

2110
01:25:58,439 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 4: catching up with him.

2111
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Speaker 3: I think you know, I should you know the answer

2112
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 3: to this? With all these injuries, can the Knicks signed

2113
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 3: players still or no?

2114
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 2: You just gotta go with I don't believe you can

2115
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: not to set their playoff roster before the playoffs begin, right,

2116
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: But maybe what happens if like five guys you know,

2117
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 2: get hurt, You're just gonna play with like five six

2118
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: guys or something or what. I don't know.

2119
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're an entire roster you only have four

2120
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,839
Speaker 4: healthy players, that you just do the old Urber Kentucky

2121
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 4: played a basketball game a couple of years ago and

2122
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 4: they only had fron I think of they play against

2123
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 4: Arkansas or something, and I think Arkansas had four guys

2124
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 4: and they almost they hung in there for like the

2125
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 4: last five minutes of a half because they only had

2126
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 4: like four players. They basically played five on four for

2127
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: the last five and a half minutes of a game.

2128
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 3: What could is the players that are eleven, twelve, thirteen,

2129
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: fourteen to fifteen on the bench. I mean if if

2130
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 3: you can't even put them in in The Knicks actually

2131
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 3: played Burke and Sims a little bit, but I mean,

2132
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: why are you paying them two and three and four

2133
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 3: million dollars. I'm not saying play them over Brunson or

2134
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,879
Speaker 3: you know, Josh Hard or anything, but obviously you were desperate.

2135
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,440
Speaker 2: You had like a million injuries.

2136
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 3: We're talking two three, four minutes of action, five minutes

2137
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 3: of action. I mean, what are you paying them all

2138
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 3: those millions of dollars before. If you can't even put

2139
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 3: him in.

2140
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 4: The game, well, you know you know this, aren't he

2141
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,839
Speaker 4: Though two or three minutes a stretch of a playoff

2142
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 4: game can be enough to win or lose a game

2143
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 4: for you.

2144
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Right, But you don't have a choice though, I mean, well,

2145
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 2: brinds of that to go out his leg hurt. Well,

2146
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: you can do.

2147
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 4: Your choice is I'm playing Josh hard and Evencenzo forty

2148
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 4: four and forty three minutes, or I'm playing those guys

2149
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 4: thirty four and thirty three minutes and I'm playing you know, Jeffries,

2150
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 4: you know that additional ten, or instead of playing Sims four,

2151
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 4: I'm playing him twelve. Right, Well, those additional eight minutes

2152
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 4: that you gave to Sims, you might be a minus.

2153
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 4: He was a minus one and the plus minus in

2154
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 4: the four minutes he did play.

2155
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: That's fine, I'm okay with that.

2156
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not gonna have plus for everybody, but

2157
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 3: you gotta give your starters arrest a little bit. Heart

2158
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 3: came out for the first time for about what five

2159
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 3: six minutes of a game?

2160
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 4: Right, Look, these guys are only human, but you know

2161
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 4: you're not playing any back to backs. You do have

2162
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 4: days off, you're not traveling again. This is the playoffs.

2163
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 4: You know what this situation is. You're gonna ask a

2164
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 4: lot of your starters, especially considering your shorthand with the

2165
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 4: regular rotation guys who are not able to play. So

2166
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 4: it's easy for me to say because I'm not out

2167
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 4: there playing every single night, but this is the time

2168
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 4: to kind of suck it up. It's the playoffs. Man,

2169
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 4: go out there and play forty plus minutes a night.

2170
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 4: You're the guy, right, We're coming on.

2171
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: You are the referees as bad as all the crying's

2172
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,839
Speaker 2: going on with Carlile and Tips.

2173
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 3: Tips isn't really crying, but you know, sending fifty missed

2174
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 3: calls to the league office or is not just trying

2175
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 3: to get one up on the knicks and hoping the

2176
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 3: calls go in your favorite as you're going at home.

2177
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

2178
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 4: And this is something and we talked about Tim Donnee

2179
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 4: a little bit last hour. This is something that he

2180
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 4: talked about that regardless of if it good calls or

2181
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 4: bad calls, this is just something that routinely happens with

2182
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 4: the NBA. If a team gets it perceives, even if

2183
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 4: it's true or not that they had a lot of

2184
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 4: calls go against them. They'll cut up some tape and

2185
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 4: send it to the league office, and if the league

2186
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 4: office season it has some merit to it, they'll talk

2187
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 4: to the referees before the game and say, hey, maybe

2188
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 4: you'll let this go a little bit in your last game,

2189
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 4: keep an eye on it if we can kind of

2190
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 4: tamper it down coming up in the next game. So

2191
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 4: sometimes not because it's intentional on the referees part, but

2192
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 4: they'll notice something that maybe went in in the favor

2193
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 4: of one team too much in a previous game, and

2194
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: they'll tamper it down in the next So sometimes there's

2195
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 4: a little bit of an overcorrection that does happen. Now,

2196
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 4: I didn't notice any of that in Friday night's game.

2197
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 4: There wasn't a big discrepancy from free throws foul calls.

2198
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 4: There was a couple of bang bang plays that kind

2199
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 4: of went gone either way.

2200
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Did Josh Hart when he went in for the lamp

2201
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 2: you calls but that was so close. Look, I'm a

2202
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 2: Knicks fan, I'm okay with that. There not calling a

2203
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 2: goal tend on that, which they did, But I mean,

2204
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 2: you just got to move on. I'm not crying about

2205
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: it like the Pacer fans are. No, it's not.

2206
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: So.

2207
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 4: It's not as if the referees went and over corrected

2208
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 4: so much that Indiana got the benefit of a lot

2209
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 4: more calls in this game than they did in the

2210
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 4: first couple of.

2211
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: Games of the series. Do you think that there's too

2212
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 2: much crying in the series or or that's just the

2213
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: way it's supposed to be. That's just kind of how

2214
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: it goes.

2215
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 4: Look, I will say legitimately, coming out of game one,

2216
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 4: I do think would have had a legitimate gripe one

2217
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 4: a couple of those calls in Game one for sure,

2218
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 4: and they chose not to. And I think Rick Carlile

2219
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 4: probably felt, well, if we don't complain, maybe they'll give

2220
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 4: us credit because they know when they're hard of hearts,

2221
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 4: they missed a couple, so maybe they'll give us some

2222
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 4: credit moving forward. And then when I guess it didn't

2223
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 4: correct itself the way that he thought it would in

2224
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 4: game two, he felt the need to have to come

2225
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 4: out and say something.

2226
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's too much crying.

2227
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 4: Look, this isn't Mark Cuban coming out publicly calling out officials,

2228
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 4: calling people crookeds, and calling out the commissioner and all that.

2229
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 4: It wasn't that bad, right, So I think what Carlisle

2230
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 4: did as a certain level of gamesmanship. And also I

2231
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 4: do think it's warranted to a certain degree because they

2232
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 4: were a couple of calls, specifically in Game one, that

2233
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 4: certainly should have gone to the pacers favor.

2234
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 3: All right, you want to get in real simple. You

2235
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 3: can reach me at Stinking Genius one. You could reach

2236
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 3: Kevin Figures at kfig one. So Twitter is the best

2237
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 3: way to go ahead and get ahold of us.

2238
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 2: We'll take a look at Saturday's, today's game and tomorrow's

2239
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 2: game in the NBA that's coming up a little bit

2240
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,719
Speaker 2: later on. I do want to get to some NFL though.

2241
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 2: NFL they say Netflix is going to get to what

2242
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 2: the two Christmas games?

2243
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 5: Now?

2244
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: Right?

2245
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 2: How many channels do we have to have?

2246
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 4: So we got so we have the networks, your Fox,

2247
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 4: your CBS, you'r NBC, you have Amazon Prime, Uh, you

2248
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 4: have Netflix?

2249
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 2: Is there?

2250
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 4: Apple is there? I don't know if Apple has a

2251
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 4: game yet. Uh Peacock does at Peacock had games last year.

2252
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if they have a game this year

2253
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 4: or not, but Peacock certainly has been in the mix

2254
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 4: and the NFL network, the NFL networks, sure, right, So

2255
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 4: I mean, how many is that ninety?

2256
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 2: I think I feel like I'm missing a channel.

2257
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm getting I'm getting all paddick that before the start

2258
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 3: of the season. I even know if I had, you know,

2259
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 3: the red zone channel, I'm not getting. This is my job,

2260
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 3: and I get confused on what channels I have and

2261
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 3: and what I don't have. Is it too much here

2262
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 3: or this is just the new wave of the NFL.

2263
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 2: I think both things are true. Is it too much

2264
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 2: one thousand percent?

2265
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 4: And but the league also knows one there's new revenue

2266
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 4: streams that they are always going to take advantage of those.

2267
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 4: And two they know how popular the NFL is and

2268
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 4: for as much as people want to complain about it,

2269
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 4: they're going to seek it out. I remember we got

2270
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 4: this discussion with Bernie Frado last this past postseason with

2271
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 4: the Chiefs Dolphins game was a Peacock exclusive, and people

2272
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 4: are like, I'm not going to sign up for Peacock,

2273
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 4: and I'm and I'm sure a lot of people didn't,

2274
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 4: but you know what a lot of people did, and

2275
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,560
Speaker 4: Peacock got exactly what they wanted because I think of

2276
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 4: the people that signed up for Peacock, I think the

2277
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 4: week proceeding that game, like seventy percent of the people

2278
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 4: that signed up stayed for at least a month afterwards,

2279
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 4: which is exactly what their intention was. Wow, So they

2280
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 4: got with the Peacock got what they wanted, and the

2281
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 4: NFL got what they wanted out of it. So we

2282
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 4: can kick, screaming complain and we're warranted to do it

2283
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 4: because it frustrates me too, But ultimately, the NFL knows.

2284
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 2: You want to watch.

2285
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 4: You're gonna go out of your way to watch, regardless

2286
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 4: of where we put the game. So you might kick

2287
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 4: and scream, but you're gonna give us money as you

2288
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 4: do it.

2289
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 3: Well, football is a TV experience anyway, right, Yeah, Fewer

2290
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 3: and fewer. I mean the games are still somewhat sold out.

2291
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: But with the great TVs that we all have and

2292
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 2: all that stuff out there, people just want to sit

2293
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 2: at home and while and save some money.

2294
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the NFL knows that that's all. It's it's

2295
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 4: a made for TV sport. At this point in time.

2296
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 4: There are certain people who want to buy their season seats,

2297
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 4: and I'm hell, we're talking about that game last year

2298
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 4: in Kansas City where people got frostbite.

2299
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 2: I think somebody has to get something happy to know

2300
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 2: you're right by the way, is it oversaturated with sometimes

2301
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 2: we have Saturday games in the late Sunday games, and

2302
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 2: the Monday games and the Thursday games, and the now

2303
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 2: where we have two on Christmas? Obviously we have the

2304
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 2: three on Thanksgiving? Is it three on thanks has three

2305
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving? Now? Okay? So? Oh is it too much now?

2306
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 2: Or is the way we like it?

2307
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 4: So this is a debate I've been having with Anthony

2308
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 4: Gargano here in this time slot for the last few years.

2309
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 4: Because Anthony wants an NFL game every single night of

2310
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 4: the week and every single window of time, there's never

2311
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 4: enough NFL. Like what I say is, I do think

2312
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 4: there is something to be said for oversaturation. I do

2313
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 4: think this is kind of It's great the advent of

2314
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,799
Speaker 4: satellite and streaming the fact that you can watch any NHL,

2315
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 4: MLB or NBA game every single night. If it's not

2316
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 4: on a network, you can seek it out through all

2317
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 4: these alps. But also there's a specialness that's lost because

2318
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 4: I remember back in the day looking forward to seeing

2319
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 4: the Heat and the Bulls play on the NBA on NBC,

2320
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,719
Speaker 4: because that was one of only eight times I'd see

2321
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,520
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan play outside of the postseason. They were events.

2322
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 4: It's not an event to see Naicola Yokich or Lebron

2323
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 4: James play anymore because those guys are Their games are

2324
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 4: available on a night in, night out basis. And one

2325
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 4: thing that was special about the NFL. You had a

2326
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 4: cluster of games that happened all at once, and then

2327
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 4: a handful two or three your Sunday night, your Monday

2328
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 4: night at the end of the season, when college football

2329
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 4: was over, you had one or two on a Saturday.

2330
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 4: But now to your point, Arnie, you got Monday sometimes

2331
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:40,879
Speaker 4: two on Monday.

2332
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 2: You got a few.

2333
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 4: On Sunday, you got a few on Saturday. Christmas is

2334
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,560
Speaker 4: on a Wednesday. This year you're gonna have to you

2335
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 4: got Black Friday. I mean, it's all over the place.

2336
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 4: I think this is too much.

2337
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 2: This is how old I am.

2338
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 3: When I was younger, I used to run out to

2339
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 3: get the TV guy just to see which games nice

2340
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 3: they were carry And then when I was in college

2341
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 3: in Tucson, they would have you vote on which games

2342
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 3: you wanted them to show.

2343
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure they would. I'm sure they would fix the

2344
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 2: votes and carry the Cowboys anyway. But I mean that

2345
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 2: was big in the time.

2346
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, we got as you get to pick

2347
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 3: a game nowadays, Like you said, you could watch any

2348
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 3: game you've got there. I can't watch a game anyway.

2349
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 3: I can't watch one game. I have to watch it

2350
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 3: with the red zone chat.

2351
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 2: Oh, you're a red zone guy. Okay, I'm a red

2352
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 2: zone guy.

2353
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 3: Have to because I can't just watch one game and

2354
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 3: not pay attention to the other four or five or

2355
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 3: six of them. I need to see the scoring plays

2356
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 3: at least of the other games. So I got to

2357
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 3: watch you the red zone Chattow you're not a red zone.

2358
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 2: Guy or what.

2359
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 4: No, it's too much happening at once for me. I'll

2360
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 4: like to be able to hone in. I like watching

2361
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 4: the game mix. So I'll put up three or four

2362
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 4: games that want and have my eyes dart between those

2363
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 4: two and try to have some simblance of being able

2364
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 4: to know what's going on in those cluster of games

2365
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 4: and just knowing if there is a game that I

2366
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 4: want to see that I'm not watching live. I have

2367
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 4: the NFL game Pass. I can go back and have

2368
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 4: the condensed game that they take all the commercials, all

2369
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 4: the replays, all that stuff out, and you can pretty

2370
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 4: much watch any game in about thirty five minutes or

2371
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 4: less and see all of the key plays. So I'll

2372
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 4: just go back and watch it there. But I'm a

2373
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 4: full game guy. I'm not a highlight guy, and there's nothing.

2374
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 2: Wrong with it. Everybody's different.

2375
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 4: At the red zone, I feel like I like to

2376
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 4: see how, you know, the Eagles have had a twelve

2377
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 4: play drive and got to the red zone and Jalen

2378
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 4: Hurts scored on a fifteen yard scramble. I don't want

2379
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 4: to just see the fifteen yard scramble that's all we scored.

2380
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 4: I want to see how they got there and why

2381
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 4: they got there, right, But you.

2382
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 2: Can't, and then you're going to be shut out of

2383
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 2: all the other games though, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

2384
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 2: that's right.

2385
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 4: And especially it's live, so you're not gonna you can't

2386
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 4: see everything. Even in the midst of having the red zone,

2387
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 4: you're not going to be able to see everything. So

2388
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 4: I just try to parcel out as many games as

2389
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 4: I can individually to be able to watch live knowing

2390
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 4: that there's going to be a couple left to go

2391
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 4: back and try to watch on tape.

2392
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 2: Now, that might be more difficult to do when I

2393
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 2: have a baby screaming in the background, So we might have.

2394
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 4: To change that strategy a little bit moving forward. But

2395
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 4: that's certainly how I've consumed it these last few years.

2396
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 3: All right, he's Kevin Figures, I'm Alnie Spaniard. We're in

2397
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 3: for the guess who's going to be on the Manning

2398
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 3: cast coming up this season.

2399
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 2: We'll get to that a little bit. We'll start looking

2400
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 2: at Saturdays and Sunday's NBA playoff games, and we'll get

2401
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 2: you ready for what's going on that. That's all coming

2402
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 2: up next. We're in for the Fellas right here on

2403
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports A Radio.

2404
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 3: All right, good morning everybody, Arnie Spaniard, Kevin Figures, We're

2405
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 3: in for the Fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz live

2406
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio on this Saturday morning.

2407
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 3: You want to be part of the show, real simple,

2408
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 3: I'm in stinking genius one. You could reach Kevin Figures

2409
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 3: at kfig one, K FIGG and the Number one Bill

2410
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 3: Belichick will be joining Manning, Peyton Manning Or and Eli

2411
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 3: on the Manning Cast for was It Monday Night Football?

2412
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 3: They'll join them for the first quarter of every game?

2413
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 3: Do you watch the Manning Cast?

2414
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 2: First thing? And if you don't, was is Bill Belichick

2415
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,600
Speaker 2: going to be on enough to make you want to

2416
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 2: watch it?

2417
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 4: I don't watch it routine, Lee, I've seen it a

2418
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 4: few times. It's entertaining for what it is. But I

2419
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 4: guess similar to me being a guy that wants to

2420
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 4: like watch games and not the red zone, I'm someone

2421
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 4: who wants to kind of focus on the game itself

2422
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 4: and not ancillary thing surrounding it. Now, there's good perspective

2423
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 4: like that. You know, Peyton and Eli, they break down

2424
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 4: plays and see what's happening, snap to snap to a

2425
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 4: certain degree, it's an informal discussion around the game that's happening.

2426
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 4: But a lot of times I just want to watch

2427
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 4: the game. I don't need the extra stuff.

2428
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I want to watch a game. I

2429
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:27,879
Speaker 2: don't need somebody.

2430
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 3: It's like me being at home and somebody just constantly

2431
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 3: talking tests when I want to watch a game, and

2432
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm not even talking about asking questions or something.

2433
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 2: Just oh, this was this, this was that. I just

2434
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 2: want to watch the game.

2435
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 3: Now, if there's a controversial play, maybe I'll put on

2436
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 3: the Maning Cast, see what they've got to say about

2437
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 3: it and how they break it on. Now, Belichick isn't

2438
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 3: going to make me tune in, though. How do you

2439
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 3: think he's going to be on the Maning Cast? Is

2440
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 3: he going to be honest? Is he gonna have that

2441
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 3: permanent scour on his face? And by the way, who

2442
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 3: has a worse facial expression? Him or Thibodeau for the

2443
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 3: New York Oh god, I mean never smiles it all,

2444
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 3: never never. He could win a lotter, he could win

2445
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 3: like one hundred million dollars. I don't think he's going

2446
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 3: to crack a smile. I think he's actually worse than Belichick,

2447
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 3: to be honest.

2448
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2449
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 4: Well, and one thing you hear about Bill Belichick from

2450
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 4: people that kind of know him, oh great sense of humor. Yeah,

2451
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 4: that this whole thing, his whole stick is just that

2452
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 4: a stick, a persona of having no personality and being dry.

2453
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 2: He kind of showed a little bit of personality. I

2454
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw the roast of Tom Brady

2455
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 2: or at least I saw the clips of it. I

2456
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: saw his face a little bit.

2457
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so he you can tell that he has

2458
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 4: a little bit of a personality in there to a

2459
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 4: certain degree, and it can let it out when he

2460
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 4: wants to. So I do think being in the many

2461
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 4: cast will loosen up a little bit. I am interested

2462
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 4: in his insights. Obviously, he's clearly intelligent and well learned

2463
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 4: and learn it in the game of a football. I

2464
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 4: don't know if you remember a few years ago a

2465
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 4: reporter asked about special teams about how come you don't

2466
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 4: have you couldn't have like a backup tight end or

2467
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 4: a backup center, be a long snapper as opposed to

2468
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 4: just having one dedicated long snapper on a roster. And

2469
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick gave like a four minute answer about the

2470
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 4: history of the long snapper and roster sizes and why

2471
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 4: it's important and specializing. And it was incredible, and I

2472
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 4: had helped my attention, to be honest with you, it

2473
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 4: was really interesting. So the guy obviously knows has a

2474
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 4: wealth of knowledge so on certain plays, certain situations. He's

2475
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 4: known as one of the great strategists of you know,

2476
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 4: the NFL history. And if I know he's gonna be

2477
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:26,719
Speaker 4: on there on a particular night. Yeah, I might tune

2478
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 4: in to see what his insights are.

2479
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 3: Do we know the truth or should I say the

2480
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 3: whole truth about Belichick Craft Brady?

2481
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 2: You know, how much do they like or dislike him?

2482
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought that Brady and Belichick privately kind

2483
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 3: of despise each other. But did I saw Tom get

2484
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 3: mad at the roast if you made a Belichick joke

2485
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 3: or joke?

2486
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was a Craft joke.

2487
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if we know the whole scenes behind the

2488
01:40:58,760 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 3: story there, you know what I mean?

2489
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, Well, look, I think one thing we

2490
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 4: do know is that Robert Craft and Tom Brady were tight.

2491
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 4: They had a phenomenal relationship. Now where Belichick in Craft

2492
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 4: and Belichick and Brady as at a certain point it

2493
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 4: probably went from admiration to just respect to maybe a

2494
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 4: little bit of disdain to where it was just untenable

2495
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 4: at that point in time. One thing that isn't fair,

2496
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 4: I think is this, and I haven't seen a lot

2497
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 4: of it. I've seen one episode, to be honest, of

2498
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,560
Speaker 4: this Patriot documentary that has kind of turned into a

2499
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 4: bit of a Bill Belichick's smear campaign, you know, where

2500
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 4: they're basically popping up everything. Some players are pumping up

2501
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 4: ownership and Belichick is sort of just there for the ride,

2502
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 4: and you see her. A lot of players, Matthew Slater,

2503
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 4: Julian Edelman, a bunch of others come out publicly and say,

2504
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 4: I don't think coach is being painted in the right

2505
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 4: light in this situation. So that's clearly whoever produced it,

2506
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 4: and I think the Patriots might have produced it. I'm

2507
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 4: not exactly sure who's coming.

2508
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,480
Speaker 2: He's not his own fault, though, is that attitude?

2509
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 4: And maybe I don't know, he's a little prickly, Maybe

2510
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 4: he got maybe got a little bit too big for

2511
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 4: his britches. He had all the success, and he thought

2512
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 4: he was bigger than the organization.

2513
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 3: Kind of like the Cowboys and Jimmy Johnson and Jerry

2514
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 3: Jones are that old thing, you know?

2515
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, possibly, And you're the only people who know that

2516
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 4: really are Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick and maybe a

2517
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 4: couple of other people inside that building. I don't know

2518
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 4: if we're ever going to know the full truth as

2519
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 4: to exactly what happened, you know, in the in the

2520
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 4: walls of that place.

2521
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 2: Did did Robert Craft. Really tell Arthur Blank that you

2522
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 2: can't trust Bill Belichick. Yeah, that's hard, you know.

2523
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 3: By the way, In case you don't know this, Arthur

2524
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 3: Blank and Robert Craft forget about being friendly.

2525
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 2: They're like brother They're super tight. They're like blood brothers.

2526
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 3: I want you to know that, so very close with

2527
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 3: the same philanthropy projects and stuff like that. They are

2528
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 3: super super tight, like like blood brothers.

2529
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 2: To be honest with you. Yeah.

2530
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 4: So the interesting thing is, I think I do think

2531
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 4: how you say things in wording does matter. So when

2532
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 4: you say you can't trust him, that makes me ask

2533
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 4: what did Bill Belichick do to lose the trust of

2534
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 4: Robert Kraft? Because there's one thing to say, this guy

2535
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 4: is an a hole, he's difficult to work with, He's

2536
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 4: gonna make your life a live in hell.

2537
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 2: You don't want that headache.

2538
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 4: To say that you can't trust him, basically say that

2539
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 4: he stabbed me in the back. He did something you know, unsightly.

2540
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 4: I would like to know exactly what that was, right,

2541
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 4: We'll never find out what it is. But it's like,

2542
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 4: how do you go You can say a guy's difficult

2543
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 4: to work with, but to say that you can't trust him,

2544
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 4: he's a liar, he's a back.

2545
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 3: Doesn't have anything to do with what happened in the

2546
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 3: Super Bowl by not playing Malcolm Butler Malcolm Butler, Or

2547
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 3: does it have something to do in the draft where

2548
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 3: you know, Kraft said you're gonna draft this guy and

2549
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 3: he said, no, I took somebody else. I don't think

2550
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 3: we'll ever find that out until later on, you know.

2551
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure.

2552
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 4: And maybe maybe a Craft or maybe Bill Belichick at

2553
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 4: a certain point writes a book or doesn't tell all

2554
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 4: and has that situation. And but look if your Craft

2555
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 4: and I look, Robert Craft has done a great job.

2556
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 4: They've you know, had a run of success save with

2557
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 4: him as the owner. But if with all due respect

2558
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 4: to him, I think I'd rather have Bill Belichick running

2559
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 4: my draft than Robert Craft.

2560
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 2: Well, Belichick doesn't have a great no record no draft either,

2561
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 2: right about that business? True, have a great track record

2562
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 2: of doing that. But he's also he's a he's a

2563
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 2: football guy. He's not a real estate guy like Robert

2564
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 2: Kraft is. This is no disrespect to Robert Craft. He's

2565
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 2: but a great legacy.

2566
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 4: But the Patriots were successful because they hire Bill Belichick

2567
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 4: to do the job. He did the job successfully for

2568
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 4: the most part throughout his twenty plus years there. So

2569
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 4: if indeed Robert Kraft came in one day and says,

2570
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 4: you know what, I want to draft this guy, you

2571
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 4: know you end up getting Johnny Manziel. In situations like that,

2572
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 4: when ownership starts coming in, you get RG three, who

2573
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 4: granted was great before he got hurt. When ownership starts

2574
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 4: coming in and dictating to the to the football people

2575
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 4: what decisions they want they need to make, nine times

2576
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 4: out of ten it doesn't end up working out well.

2577
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 4: And ultimately it's not the owner that ends up paying

2578
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 4: for it. It's the coach who didn't want the player

2579
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 4: to begin with. All right, he's Kevin Viggers. I'm Onny

2580
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 4: Spaniard k Fike. Have you ever seen the movie The

2581
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 4: Jerk with Steve Martin?

2582
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 2: I have not, no, and I love Steve.

2583
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 3: I've not seen see And what's an old school and

2584
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 3: so way before your time? There's one scene, you know,

2585
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 3: and he's just acting a little goofy where the phone

2586
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 3: book came out, you know, the young pages.

2587
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and he picks up he goes the new phone

2588
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: books here, the new phone books here.

2589
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 3: I can't believe it. He's all excited. The NFL schedules here,

2590
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 3: the NFL schedules. There is that a big thing. We'll

2591
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 3: get into that. I'm trying, working with me, work with me.

2592
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 3: We'll get to that cover up next. First though, let's

2593
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 3: see what's trending, what happened last night. We check it

2594
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 3: with our buddy k Fig. Let's going on k Fig?

2595
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll starting with the NBA.

2596
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 4: We had a couple of playoff games on Friday night,

2597
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 4: the Nuggets picking up their first victory in their series

2598
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 4: against Minnesota, one seventeen to ninety. The final score twenty

2599
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 4: four points each for Jamal Murray and Nicola Jokich. The

2600
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 4: Joker one assists shy of a triple double. In the

2601
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference, Tyre's Halliburton scored thirty five points to lead

2602
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 4: Indiana to a one eleven to one oh six victory

2603
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 4: over the Knicks. New York series now two games to one,

2604
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,719
Speaker 4: and on the ice, Evan Buchhard scored the game winning

2605
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:53,560
Speaker 4: goal in overtime, leading the Oilers over the Canucks. That

2606
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 4: series is now tied at one game apiece. Florida hammer

2607
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 4: Boston six to two for a two to one series

2608
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 4: lead there and Major League Baseball. The Padre snapped the

2609
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 4: Dodgers seven game win streak with a two to one

2610
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 4: victory as I walk off RBI single from newest Padre

2611
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 4: Luisa Rise, home runs fro Ronald the Counia Junior and

2612
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 4: Matt Olsen has Atlanta defeat at the Mets four to two.

2613
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 4: You also out there, Red snapping an eight game losing

2614
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 4: streak with a four to two victory over the Giants,

2615
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 4: and golf Xanders Shaffley a four stroke lead over Jason

2616
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 4: Day and Roy McElroy through the first couple of rounds

2617
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 4: at the Wells Farco Fargo Championship.

2618
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 2: All right, back to the fellas, all right, thanks a lot,

2619
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 2: k fig Arnie Spaniard, Kevin Figures. We're in for the guys.

2620
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 3: We're in for the fellas, Anthony Gargano and of course

2621
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 3: his partner Jason Fitz right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2622
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:40,759
Speaker 3: You want to be part of the show, real simple,

2623
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 3: ad stinking genius one. You can reach figure Ki at

2624
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 3: k fig fi gg and the number one.

2625
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 2: So we'll get this.

2626
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 3: I have not done a good job keeping up on

2627
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 3: the tweets, getting a lot of them, so we'll do that.

2628
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 3: I said, the NFL schedules being released, what this Wednesday?

2629
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 2: I think it's what.

2630
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 3: It is, Yes, this week, this Wednesday, we know who's playing,

2631
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 3: we just don't know when they're playing. I like to

2632
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 3: be the cool guy and say it's not that big

2633
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 3: of a deal, but it is.

2634
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 2: I still enjoy when it comes out.

2635
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 3: You look at your team and see where they play

2636
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 3: and where they get the bye week, and you know

2637
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 3: how many games do they have on the road early

2638
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 3: compared to late. How many Monday night games, Sunday night

2639
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 3: games do they play on Christmas? Do they play on Thanksgiving?

2640
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 3: I mean, all that stuff is important, especially to the fans.

2641
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 2: So that's coming out. It is kind of a big

2642
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 2: deal when it comes out, is it not?

2643
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 4: Or Oh, it's a huge deal and it's a May

2644
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 4: for TV event at this point in time, which every

2645
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 4: NFL event is at this point. It just doesn't really

2646
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 4: move the needle a lot for me. I'll check in

2647
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 4: on my team after it's released. I'll look at the

2648
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 4: schedule to see how it lines up. If it works

2649
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 4: out with the schedule, maybe I can go to a

2650
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 4: game or two or whatnot. But I don't know if

2651
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 4: I want to sit there for three and a half

2652
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,719
Speaker 4: hours to watch them reveal the schedule week by week

2653
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 4: and say, all right, in week fourteen, the Jaguars are

2654
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 4: facing the Titans in Saskatchewan, and I'm like, all right,

2655
01:47:58,400 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 4: but you're.

2656
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: A Raider fan. You want to know who the Raiders

2657
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 2: play all sixteen games, generally speaking, guys, And by the way,

2658
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 2: I know who they're playing. To your point, I know

2659
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 2: when and where.

2660
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 4: So there are some primetime games, which, by the way,

2661
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 4: I think by like week five now, I think they

2662
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 4: play like they move the flex up every single year

2663
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 4: at this point in time, so I don't even know

2664
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 4: if it even matters.

2665
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 2: So who even knows.

2666
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 4: You know, if they're playing on Monday night, it might

2667
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 4: be Monday now, you know, and by week three it

2668
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 4: might be moved to Sunday to Sunday afternoon. So I

2669
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 4: understand the popularity of it, and I'm not poop pooing

2670
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 4: any of it.

2671
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 2: For the most part.

2672
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 4: It just doesn't move the needle for me to have

2673
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:31,640
Speaker 4: to sit there and watch an entire special dedicated to

2674
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 4: the schedule. It's one of those that, you know what,

2675
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 4: I can sit it out, I can have dinner with

2676
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 4: the family I can come back and look at the

2677
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 4: results after the fact and see exactly where things line up.

2678
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 2: I guess it's kind of like the draft.

2679
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't really have to watch all those

2680
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 3: three days of the draft where you can just figure

2681
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 3: out and you know, read the bottom scroll to see

2682
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 3: who they they took out there. Though I know a

2683
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 3: lot of people and my partner on so the night,

2684
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 3: Chris Plank, there's like a holiday for him. When a

2685
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:59,600
Speaker 3: schedule he's He's just like a the Raiders play and

2686
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 3: when they playing, what days are they playing?

2687
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 2: What's what's the windows? Saw are they in? It's a

2688
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 2: big deal to somebody like him.

2689
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 4: Y'all get it like the NFL drafts to a certain degree,

2690
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 4: You're right, you can definitely skip a lot of the

2691
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,879
Speaker 4: pomping circumstance that comes with that and look at the results.

2692
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 4: But a lot of times I do like listening to

2693
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 4: the analysis. I like seeing that the first round, uh,

2694
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 4: seeing some of the interviews, the background stories, seeing how

2695
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 4: wrong most of the projections are for people, so I

2696
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 4: can reference back to it. When John Gruden says Johnny

2697
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 4: Manziel is gonna be a Hall of Famer, and I

2698
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 4: was like, well, that worked out well, you know, so

2699
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 4: stuff like that.

2700
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 2: I think Bayless said that Johnny Manziel was going to

2701
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 2: be bigger in Cleveland than Lebron, Right, Yeah, you know

2702
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 2: that sweet resurfaced this past week. I saw that. That's right.

2703
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,560
Speaker 2: I love that one old the old takes exposed, you

2704
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Oh, I love that. I think

2705
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 2: that's just fantastic. I think that's hysterical when you when

2706
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 2: something like that go ahead.

2707
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just don't I don't begrudge anybody that

2708
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 4: wants to geek out on the NFL at The NFL

2709
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 4: has done a phenomenal job of marketing this. They know

2710
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,560
Speaker 4: that the comm where guys are jumping and running in

2711
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 4: their underwear for five hours straight, that makes money. People

2712
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 4: watch it monopolize every single thing that you possibly can.

2713
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 4: I totally understand it. I know how popular it is.

2714
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 4: It's just not something that's going to necessarily be appointment

2715
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 4: viewing from me. Do you go to games? Do you

2716
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 4: go to NFL games or No? I typically don't because

2717
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 4: I'm usually working working now.

2718
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 2: With the National Radio. We not going for sure. Yeah,

2719
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 2: a lot of times I'm working games for National Radio.

2720
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 4: So if I have a potential bye week or something off,

2721
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 4: or if it's a you know, the Raiders obviously come

2722
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 4: to so far every single year to play the Chargers.

2723
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:34,560
Speaker 4: So if it happens to be a Monday night or

2724
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 4: a game where I'm not working a national game, I'll

2725
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 4: try to get out to a game here and there.

2726
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 4: But I'd say about ninety percent of the time I'm

2727
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 4: not really able to attend NFL games because I'm working them.

2728
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 2: Now, we have not had a practice yet, but we've

2729
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 2: already had two starters name They say Aid and O'Connell

2730
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 2: will be the starter for at least the first pass

2731
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 2: right right right for the first practice, and that's fair enough.

2732
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. Caleb Williams named the starter in Chicago,

2733
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 2: the question starter, Yes, you have a problem with that.

2734
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 2: I think he should be named the starters.

2735
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem whether I think it's odd

2736
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,719
Speaker 4: and maybe it's refreshing to a certain degree, ary because

2737
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 4: usually you know how this goes. Yeah, well, you know

2738
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna get him in camp. We're gonna see what

2739
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,639
Speaker 4: he does, right right, this is what Washington's doing. Washington

2740
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 4: came out and said that Jade Daniels is gonna play

2741
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 4: when he's ready to play, and versus Chicago's saying like,

2742
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 4: oh no, Caleb is the first overall pick, We're gonna

2743
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 4: play him.

2744
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 2: He's gonna be the starter from day one, and he

2745
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 2: should though though there's no ps about it, we know

2746
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 2: that he's going to be the starter, and I mean

2747
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 2: all the hype about him being the next superstar and

2748
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 2: transitional type player there, why even mess around with it?

2749
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 2: Let everybody know what the Bears fans know, he's our

2750
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 2: starter and we're in for new area here in Chicago.

2751
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 4: I guess my concern would be, what if you know

2752
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 4: and camp he does struggle or doesn't look good, and

2753
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 4: maybe you say he isn't ready? Are you throwing him

2754
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 4: into the fire and he ends up being Bryce Young? Now,

2755
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be that bad. Ah, I don't think,

2756
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 4: and I don't think that's Bryce Young's fault. I don't

2757
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 4: think he was set up to fail. He didn't have

2758
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 4: much to work with. So I'm not saying Caleb is

2759
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 4: gonna be but as opposed to letting him go out there,

2760
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 4: even if it's a faux competition, just so you don't

2761
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 4: just say all right, coming in from day one before

2762
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 4: you even take a mini camp snap. Yeah, you're gonna

2763
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 4: go ahead and be the starting quarterback. It'say, you know what,

2764
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 4: we want you to be the starter. We're rooting for

2765
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 4: you. You're gonna come in, You're gonna compete. You can't see

2766
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 4: me doing air quotes. Compete with Tyson Badget and Brett

2767
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,719
Speaker 4: Rippon and whoever the rookie guy is. Have you guys

2768
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 4: get a bunch of snaps and will determine who's who's

2769
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,719
Speaker 4: who and where's where, play a couple of preseason games,

2770
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 4: and ultimately we'll let the chips fall where they may.

2771
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 4: But the idea, I know a lot of players nowadays

2772
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 4: in the NFL can come in and be productive from

2773
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 4: day one, but that's not everybody, and it depends on

2774
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 4: the situation, right, And I just want to make sure

2775
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 4: that he's not set up to fail and loses his confidence.

2776
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 4: It ends up being a giant back for him. The

2777
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 4: Bears were seven to ten last year. Correct they were

2778
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 4: a solid roster.

2779
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 2: They added with DeAndre Swift yep Keenan Allen drafted a

2780
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 2: duns Ye who I love, by the way, I absolutely

2781
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 2: just love that guy. Got Jared Everett, another good side

2782
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 2: end to go with the one.

2783
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 3: They are absolutely with Cole Kamet, who a very good

2784
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 3: tight end, by the way, a great tight end. Shouldn't

2785
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 3: they be better than seven to ten this year, especially because,

2786
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 3: let's be honest, green Bay is average to good geting

2787
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 3: a new quarterback, so they should be able to compete

2788
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 3: maybe with Detroit for that division.

2789
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 2: I think green Bay is probably gonna be better.

2790
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 4: You're assuming that that Caleb Love is going to take

2791
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,559
Speaker 4: another step forward and be better than he was last year.

2792
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 4: So green Bay should from a progression standpoint, be at

2793
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 4: least as good as they were last year. If not

2794
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 4: Jordan Jordan Love, excuse me for Arizona. Yeah, Caleb Love,

2795
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:37,680
Speaker 4: you'll go better than one for twenty two from the

2796
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 4: field they probably would have gone be for in the

2797
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 4: tournament this year.

2798
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 2: Sorry, but you know it's true. That's okay. I'm sure

2799
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 2: you get a mix. But h Jordan Love is gonna

2800
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 2: take that next step.

2801
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 4: So I do think it potentially could be a three

2802
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,600
Speaker 4: team race in the NFC nor if things fall in

2803
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:52,839
Speaker 4: place for the Bears.

2804
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 2: It's just it just could.

2805
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 4: Be too much too soon to just anoint the guy

2806
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 4: from day one before you even see him take a

2807
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 4: snap in camp.

2808
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna come back. We'll have the k FIG

2809
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 3: news stories that we have not got to yet. That's

2810
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 3: coming up next. Arnie Spaniard, Kevin Figures. We're in for

2811
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 3: the fellas.

2812
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 2: Right here on Sports All Radio. All right, good morning everybody,

2813
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 2: Arnie Spaniard, Kevin Figures, in for the fellas, Anthony Gargano

2814
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 2: and Jason Fitz on this Saturday morning. Before we do

2815
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 2: anything else, let's go to the k FIG news stories

2816
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: we have not gotten to yet today. What's going on

2817
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 2: out there? K FIG?

2818
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 4: Well, we know that Kaitlin Clark has taken women's basketball

2819
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 4: by storm. She was a phenomenal in the NCAA tournament

2820
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 4: and all season a long became the all time leaguing

2821
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 4: scorer in NCAA Division One history men or women playing

2822
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 4: for the University of Iowa. And she's said to make

2823
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 4: her WNBA debut next week on the Four Letter Network.

2824
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 4: And they're basically rolling out what they're saying is WNBA

2825
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 4: Finals level coverage, dedicating multiple networks, multiple camera angles. I mean,

2826
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 4: they're gonna have all sorts of coverage for the Caitlin

2827
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 4: Clark phenomena. Are you caught up in the Caitlin Clark fever. Yeah, well,

2828
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 4: I'll tell you where I am on this. I was.

2829
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 4: I saw that she played her opening game yesterday, as

2830
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 4: I would it was, yeah, for a preseason game a

2831
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 4: couple of nights ago. Yes, we've got thirteen thousand fans

2832
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 4: to show up, by the way, for the prey two games.

2833
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 3: She's played a preseason game and one regular season game. Correct,

2834
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 3: And I didn't have the game on.

2835
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know where I could find it, so I

2836
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 2: actually got my phone and looked up the score to

2837
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 2: see how many points she had in the opener. I

2838
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 2: think she had twelve points, four out of twelve shooting

2839
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 2: or something.

2840
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 4: Do you believe that there were both preseason games? There

2841
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 4: were both preseason game regular season game starts.

2842
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 2: On the fourteen. I think it was against Landa or something. Yea.

2843
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 2: That she just played two preseason games career. Now, I

2844
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 2: would never know any I would not know any of

2845
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 2: the teams. I would have said, I don't know who

2846
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 2: they played Atlanta whoever, I have no idea.

2847
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know their preseason games. But because it's Caitlin Clark,

2848
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 3: I wanted to see what she was doing. I wanted

2849
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 3: to see how many points she's scoring. I wanted to

2850
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 3: see if it was easier or harder than when she

2851
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 3: was at Iowa. I guess you could say I have

2852
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark fever because I want to see what's going on.

2853
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, there's a level of injury, and I

2854
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 4: believe that the other night she was like four to

2855
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 4: twelve from the field, hit a couple of threes, so

2856
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 4: not necessarily super efficient, but she's still trying to get

2857
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 4: her get her feet wet at Lena level.

2858
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 2: What do you think about Doyle getting Guys suspended for

2859
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 2: two weeks ago covering Greg.

2860
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 4: Greg's been around for too long. He knows that that's inappropriate.

2861
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 4: I mean, that's it was necessary. It was fine. I

2862
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 4: think I think it was warranted. If you talked to

2863
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 4: Greg offline, it's like, yeah, I was trying to make

2864
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 4: a joke and it probably it was really stupid. I

2865
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 4: shouldn't have done that, right, So I have no problem

2866
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 4: with it. He knows that was ridiculous. Greg's been around

2867
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 4: for too long.

2868
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 2: I agree. Look, I don't know if it came from

2869
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark. I think she just kind of went along

2870
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 2: with it, but she played it over the top. She

2871
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 2: played it all pretty well, but he knew he was

2872
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 2: wrong with that absolutely. Now, so you've heard Arnie.

2873
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 4: You know, if a tree falls in the forest and

2874
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 4: nobody's around, does it really make a sound?

2875
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 2: Right?

2876
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 4: So if a Marlin's fan is protesting in the parking lot,

2877
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 4: does anybody actually hear it or pay attention?

2878
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 2: Only if they're going to the game. And who's going

2879
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 2: to the game exactly.

2880
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 4: So all ten of the Marlins fans that they actually

2881
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 4: have apparently boycott at their game against the Phillies on

2882
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 4: Friday night because they were upset. They said there were

2883
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 4: a soul of bill of goods from Marlin's ownership who

2884
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 4: say that they want to put a competitive team on

2885
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 4: the field. They have not been very competitive this year

2886
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 4: after making the playoffs last season, and they traded away

2887
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 4: their best player, Luisa Rise, to the San Diego Padres,

2888
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 4: who had a walk off hit against the Dodgers on

2889
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 4: Friday night.

2890
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 2: So a lot of people, a lot of people, they said.

2891
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 2: They said it was a crowd of about ten.

2892
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 3: Or Tampa, which is the worst franchise out there. And

2893
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 3: and too, you know what that means, don't you?

2894
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 2: What's that?

2895
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 3: I think I'm guessing that I'll be really close to

2896
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 3: some Major League baseball less than about forty five minutes.

2897
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 2: From my house. Now, oh, there you gocause you're thinking,

2898
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 2: what is he talking about.

2899
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 3: I live in Burlington, Vermont right Montreal is lessed an

2900
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 3: hour from Oh oh, I totally, totally we're going to

2901
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 3: get back. I don't know if they're going to call

2902
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 3: it the Expos or whatever.

2903
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 2: But they should and someone ends up moving back moving

2904
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 2: to Montreal, they should be the Expos. Yeah, there's no.

2905
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 3: I think if the next major League Baseball city will

2906
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 3: be Montreal, they want another Canadian team.

2907
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 2: So you're not thinking Nashville or Toronto. That'sural. I think

2908
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 2: we'll get one too. But I think there's a good

2909
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 2: chance at Montree.

2910
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but we'll see what happens at Plus,

2911
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 3: it's on the East coast, and think of many how

2912
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 3: many seats tickets? So if the Yankee fans came up

2913
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 3: to the games, of Ships fans came up to the games,

2914
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 3: the rivalry with Toronto, I think they get sel a

2915
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 3: lot of tickets there.

2916
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 2: I agree.

2917
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 4: One thing I'll say about Tampa I will not say

2918
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 4: that ownership doesn't try to win. I mean, they're for

2919
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 4: the front office that they've hired. Even since Andrew Freeman

2920
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 4: has left, they've been competitive more and more often than

2921
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 4: they haven't been. But the fan base if it's because

2922
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 4: of where they're located in Saint Petersburg, and I don't

2923
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 4: know the fulls the logistics of how hard it is

2924
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 4: to get there, why fans don't show up.

2925
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 2: They at least try to put a winning product out there.

2926
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 4: But everything about Jeffrey Laurier and that Marlin situation to

2927
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 4: the new stadium they bought when the city was the

2928
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 4: city and the citizens or Soda BILLI goods about that,

2929
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 4: to not putting a competitive team on the field, I

2930
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 4: certainly understand for the two fans that they do have

2931
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 4: out there, why the upset at the way things have gone.

2932
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 4: And also in the one NBA note, Adrian Wargenowski did

2933
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 4: report that Mike Budenhozer working to finalize a five year

2934
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 4: contract with the Phoenix Suns, who of course fired for

2935
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 4: Vogel after one season.

2936
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 2: Right, one year the best job to have. I wish

2937
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 2: I had a five year contract. Yeah, okay, get fired

2938
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 2: after one year. I love something.

2939
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 4: If Frank Vogel or Jimbo Fisher by all means you

2940
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 4: want to pay me that millions to sit at home,

2941
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 4: I'll take it.

2942
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that you bring that up.

2943
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 2: We're going to get to this next hour because I

2944
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 2: was going to bring up Frank Vogel and him getting

2945
01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 2: fired after one year? How long should you have your

2946
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 2: job in the NBA, the NFL, Major League Baseball? And

2947
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 2: why do these guys get fired after one year?

2948
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 3: Is it because they do such terrible jobs or get

2949
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 3: fired in mid season like Milwaukee's coach who was like

2950
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 3: thirty and thirty and thirteen Adrian Griffin was, And is

2951
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 3: it because of the fans or the owners or the

2952
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:00,840
Speaker 3: players that get the coaches fired.

2953
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be a combination of all of them.

2954
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 4: But I do think specifically in the NBA, and we

2955
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 4: can get deeper into it, the NBA is a players league,

2956
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 4: and the players have more sway in the league than

2957
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 4: any other league professional sport. So I think oftentimes if

2958
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,280
Speaker 4: a player wants a coach gone, that coach is gonna

2959
02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 4: be gone. And that's usually how it works. Three hours

2960
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 4: are in the books.

2961
02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 3: The bonus hour is coming up next to this show

2962
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 3: is just flying on by Bonus Hour more NBA. Next

2963
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio.

2964
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2965
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 2: All right, good morning everybody, Arnie Spaniard, Kevin Figures. Right

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02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.

2967
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Speaker 2: have our picks.

2974
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Speaker 3: For the games for today and tomorrow and will some

2975
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Speaker 3: of it for the rest of the series. So Kate

2976
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Speaker 3: Fig and I will give our picks that's coming up

2977
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Speaker 3: a little bit later on, especially for the Knicks game

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02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 3: game number four Monster game there, so we'll see who

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02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 3: we're picking out there. If you want to join us,

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Speaker 3: real simple, I'm mistaking genius one.

2981
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Speaker 2: He's at Kfig one.

2982
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 3: K Fig the brand new father of a two week

2983
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 3: old by the name of Oliver. I sent you over

2984
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 3: the baby names Oliver number three on the baby list

2985
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:34,400
Speaker 3: for new names for the year, which I had I

2986
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 3: would not and by the way, you see what number

2987
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 3: one was for the girls Olivia Olivia.

2988
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that seems to be the hot names. I

2989
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:42,440
Speaker 2: can't believe it, Kath, I.

2990
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,320
Speaker 4: Guess so we caught ourselves trying to be a little

2991
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 4: bit different, and I guess we just we just meld

2992
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 4: it in with everybody else.

2993
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 2: Now, you said you're a Laker fan and a Raider fan.

2994
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 2: Correct that. I'm sorry to break this to you. That's

2995
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,080
Speaker 2: not true. What do you mean, that's not true. You're

2996
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 2: not a fan anyman less, You're not a fan unless

2997
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 2: you do one of those three things. What's that? Do

2998
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 2: you have a Raider or Laker tattoo? I do not

2999
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Speaker 2: have any tattoos. Okay, have you.

3000
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:13,600
Speaker 3: Named your first born after a Laker player or Raider player?

3001
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:15,360
Speaker 2: Not that I can think of.

3002
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 4: No, I don't know if you not do that, A

3003
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:23,000
Speaker 4: like Oliver Miller may have played for the Lakers, not

3004
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 4: necessarily the Lakers Miller.

3005
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 2: I'll just say, I can't name one person that played

3006
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 2: sports with the name Oliver.

3007
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now. He's eating like Oliver Miller.

3008
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 4: The way this kid's drinking.

3009
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 2: My god, I was thinking to myself. So you see,

3010
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 2: I named my son Shay for Shay Stadium. But I'm

3011
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:40,080
Speaker 2: a hard Met fan.

3012
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 3: If it was a girl, we were gonna name her Madison, Okay,

3013
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden. No, no, you didn't think of that,

3014
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 3: like Mookie Figures or anything like that. I know if

3015
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:55,840
Speaker 3: you're a Med fan or Lebron figures that that didn't

3016
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 3: never ring to it or what?

3017
02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, no rich Figures for Rich Gannon or ten figures

3018
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 4: Tim Brown.

3019
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 2: You know, no, didn't really cross my mind.

3020
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 3: The uh, the wife wouldn't tolerate something.

3021
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 2: Probably not Probably wasn't gonna probably wasn't gonna fly.

3022
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 4: I love my teams to death, but I don't know

3023
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 4: if enough to name my child after one of them.

3024
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 2: You I don't know if you ever heard of the

3025
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 2: comic strip Tank McNamara, it's so familiar. Well, he's a

3026
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 2: he was a sports writer back in the day.

3027
02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:25,760
Speaker 3: And in the comic strip it says, I know this

3028
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 3: sports talk show host who named his son Shaeffer say

3029
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:33,640
Speaker 3: Stadium that which was the comic about me and my son.

3030
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 3: And he goes, that's a nice name because he's a fan.

3031
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 3: And the wife says, I'm not naming my daughter with

3032
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 3: numbers in it. I think he won the name old

3033
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:47,960
Speaker 3: Candlestick Park. I forgot what they changed the name to

3034
02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 3: or something like that, and she goes, I refused to

3035
02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 3: do that.

3036
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:52,280
Speaker 2: I called up the artist.

3037
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 3: They sent me the original sketch of it and they

3038
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 3: signed it for me. But it was very cool. You know,

3039
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:00,800
Speaker 3: a lot of people end up doing that. Either it's

3040
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 3: either their.

3041
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 2: Kids or their dogs. They name after their favorite team.

3042
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:05,120
Speaker 2: You know that.

3043
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 4: You know, the dogs, the pet mind the pets, that's

3044
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:09,320
Speaker 4: that's fine.

3045
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 2: The children is a little bit different.

3046
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 3: I know, uh, you know you you could name them

3047
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 3: after cities, you could name them after your favorite player.

3048
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 2: I've seen it get out of hand though. You know that,

3049
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 2: don't you. Oh, I'm sure, yeah, it's it's really got it.

3050
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 2: So no, Oliver Miller on your part. So are you

3051
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:29,640
Speaker 2: a real fan of the Raiders or the Lakers if

3052
02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 2: you didn't name your kid Lebron or Anthony Davis or

3053
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:33,680
Speaker 2: anything like that.

3054
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:35,840
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm a I'm a I'm a real fan

3055
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:39,520
Speaker 4: of the team who has a little bit of healthy detachment,

3056
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:41,680
Speaker 4: Let's put it that way when it comes to acts

3057
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 4: real life, and that can impact my child versus my

3058
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 4: actual fandom.

3059
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 3: How many listeners do you think are listening right now

3060
02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 3: that name their kid after their favorite sports players?

3061
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:55,840
Speaker 2: Many? How many think name their kid Kobe? Oh there's

3062
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:56,400
Speaker 2: a lot about that.

3063
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:58,560
Speaker 4: If there's a lot about that, I know a few

3064
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:00,240
Speaker 4: Kobe's who are who are of the age range.

3065
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 2: I know for sure that they were named after Oh

3066
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 2: absolutely one.

3067
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 4: One of my colleagues, former Petrosen Money, a host here

3068
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio, still does a local show on

3069
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 4: AM five to seventy. His daughter's name is Peyton. He

3070
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:13,680
Speaker 4: was a Bears fan named after Walter Payton.

3071
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:15,560
Speaker 2: Who is this? Who's this Matt money Smith?

3072
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 5: Oh?

3073
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 3: Matt money Smith for yeah, of course? Yeah, wow, So

3074
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,000
Speaker 3: I see, I did not know that. I'm sure there's

3075
02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 3: a lot. And by the way, if you did name

3076
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:25,080
Speaker 3: your son or daughter after your favorite athlete, you could

3077
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 3: go ahead get us a hold on Twitter.

3078
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm kind of curious that.

3079
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:31,480
Speaker 3: Oh sure, at Steak and Genius one and that kfig one,

3080
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:34,560
Speaker 3: that never came into your mind to to do something

3081
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 3: like that, right.

3082
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 2: Never once?

3083
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:37,880
Speaker 4: And even like my like my favorite players, like I

3084
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 4: love Marcus Allen and Marcus is a normal enough name,

3085
02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 4: like he could be Marcus Figures and that would be fine,

3086
02:05:44,080 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 4: you know, Marcus Allen was my favorite Raider player, so

3087
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 4: that could have worked, but it really just wasn't an option.

3088
02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:51,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't something that we doesn't necessarily discussed. I got

3089
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 2: a quick I got a quick Marcus Allen story, if

3090
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 2: you okay please. I a friend of mine when we

3091
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 2: were just you know, like about twenty two to twenty

3092
02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 2: three years old, came into town. We're driving around.

3093
02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 3: I had a cheap no doors, no top, and we're

3094
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 3: driving around and who do we pull up next to.

3095
02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:11,480
Speaker 3: It's Marcus Allen, right nice, and he's with a bunch

3096
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 3: of people, and we actually lived on the same part

3097
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:14,840
Speaker 3: of town.

3098
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:18,440
Speaker 2: So I'm following him. I'm following him.

3099
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm following him, and I'm sure he's starting to think,

3100
02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 3: here's a black cheap no doors, no top, you know,

3101
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 3: why is he following me? We get to Westwood, you know,

3102
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure people don't know the geography, and he takes

3103
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:32,440
Speaker 3: off through a.

3104
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,840
Speaker 2: Red light to get away from us. Wow, And my

3105
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 2: friend turns to me, he goes, you don't think it's

3106
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:37,960
Speaker 2: because he thought we were following him.

3107
02:06:38,440 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 5: I go, I don't know.

3108
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:40,720
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is I know where he lives?

3109
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 3: Why don't we drive by a street and see what happens.

3110
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 3: So we drive by a street and who's out in

3111
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 3: the middle of right in front of his house.

3112
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:49,520
Speaker 2: It's Marcus Allen screaming.

3113
02:06:49,480 --> 02:06:51,160
Speaker 1: Why are you following me?

3114
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 2: And my friend goes, keep going, keep going. He's gonna

3115
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 2: kick her ass. Keep going. If I was stopped, he

3116
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:00,160
Speaker 2: was going to punch me in the face. So I

3117
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 2: want you to know that i'd be dead by now.

3118
02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 4: Arnie the stalker Spaniard look at you. Yeah, doesn't Marcus

3119
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:06,880
Speaker 4: know who you are? You're a higher loan.

3120
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 2: You went to high school with Genie Bus. Yes, I mean,

3121
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 2: come on now, I told that story. I went to

3122
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 2: high school with Genie Buss.

3123
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:14,560
Speaker 3: If I just would have been you know, I could

3124
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,840
Speaker 3: have went up to Genie. I was a good looking guy, right,

3125
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:19,400
Speaker 3: said Jeanie. Let's go to Westwood. There's a new movie

3126
02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:22,920
Speaker 3: in town. We'll go to the Taco Bell afterwards, which

3127
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 3: was pretty big back in Westwood back in the day.

3128
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:27,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure and she would have fell in love with me,

3129
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 3: and I would have gotten married to her, and I'd be.

3130
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:30,840
Speaker 2: Part owner of the of the Lakers.

3131
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:32,880
Speaker 4: You would be part owner of the Lakers, as opposed

3132
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 4: to former Fox Sports radio host j Moore.

3133
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 2: Right, you know what's funny, maybe Ja Mary's Genie. I

3134
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 2: could have married Jenny the sister exactly.

3135
02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:42,120
Speaker 3: She was only a year older, I think than me,

3136
02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:44,120
Speaker 3: but I didn't know her drop as well as I

3137
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:44,640
Speaker 3: know Geenie.

3138
02:07:44,720 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 2: You drop the ball there, Arnie. I do have a

3139
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 2: Genie bus story though. Oh I want to hear this place. Yeah.

3140
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 3: I mean it's not a big story or anything like that,

3141
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 3: but I was my coach, actually played for John and Wooden,

3142
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 3: so that that's why we had people like Steve cr

3143
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 3: who could shoot. And one of our other players was

3144
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 3: the shooting coach in the NBA, Chip England.

3145
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 2: He's a assistant coach right now.

3146
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 3: But I was with the coach and Genie comes walking by,

3147
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 3: and the coach goes, hey, Genie, did your dad buy

3148
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers yet? And I'm listening to all this

3149
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:18,840
Speaker 3: was just the three of us there, and she goes, no, No,

3150
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 3: he's saving his money for the Lakers.

3151
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 2: And that's what I go. I go, who's your dad, Genie,

3152
02:08:26,040 --> 02:08:28,040
Speaker 2: that's gonna buy the Lakers? Stop it?

3153
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 3: And nobody said a word to me. I had no

3154
02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:33,760
Speaker 3: idea that that was actually true. He was gonna buy

3155
02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:37,360
Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers, but instead wanted to buy the Lakers.

3156
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 3: He made a bit on the Lakers, and from what

3157
02:08:40,440 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 3: I hear, and I don't know if this part is

3158
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 3: completely true, they voted him down. Oh really, They said

3159
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 3: we can't trust his finances. And guess who stepped up

3160
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 3: and said, I'll tell you what, if he misses any

3161
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,200
Speaker 3: payroll or a check or something, I got you covered.

3162
02:08:58,280 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 4: I think I know who this is. I'll let you

3163
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:02,080
Speaker 4: say Old Sterling. That's absolutely true.

3164
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he owned all of Wilster Boulevard with a lot

3165
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:08,560
Speaker 2: of real estate. Absolutely so they said, well, Donald, if

3166
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:11,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna go ahead and vouch for him, that's good

3167
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 2: enough for us. And you know, with all the money

3168
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:16,240
Speaker 2: that he had, they said sure, because.

3169
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 4: I remember at the time Jerry Buzz had to buy not

3170
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 4: only the Lakers, but he has form and the Kings,

3171
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 4: the la Kas to Jack Jack.

3172
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:26,840
Speaker 3: Kincook right right, who were U Stone Washington football team?

3173
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:29,880
Speaker 2: Sure did so. Yeah, that's how that all played out.

3174
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:34,120
Speaker 2: By the way, on Twitter, uh Paul panducees Pan duels,

3175
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 2: I think I said that right, says My sixteen year

3176
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:41,520
Speaker 2: old son's name is Jackie Mays. Well that that that's

3177
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:45,400
Speaker 2: a pretty good one, Jackie Robinson and Mart to argue

3178
02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 2: with either of those, you know, Wow, that's so you

3179
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:49,800
Speaker 2: got the first name and the middle name in there.

3180
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:51,040
Speaker 2: You gotta love.

3181
02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 3: You gotta love a wife that says, sure, let's go

3182
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:55,320
Speaker 3: ahead and do that. I gotta hit the heart button

3183
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 3: on that one, don't I.

3184
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, my goodness, man.

3185
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 4: Dann, that's a little but again, that's you talk about

3186
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 4: two with all the time greats. That's hard to argue with.

3187
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 4: What suppose your name?

3188
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 3: You name your kid Kobe Michael Jordan's whatever.

3189
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:11,360
Speaker 2: Or or something.

3190
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:14,840
Speaker 4: You know, there's a couple of quills rolling around. Yes,

3191
02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:19,440
Speaker 4: Shaquille Griffin, you got another one I named that's true.

3192
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 3: I named my son Colt after the Indianapolis Colts.

3193
02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 2: Really so not after Colt McCoy. I was gonna say

3194
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:29,200
Speaker 2: Colt McCoy. There is. But that's the only cult, the

3195
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 2: late Colt Brenan. That's true. That's true too. But some

3196
02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 2: cults flying around there.

3197
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's like naming your kid Dolphin though, right,

3198
02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:40,320
Speaker 3: or Dolphin cowboy or yeah, there's there was.

3199
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:40,600
Speaker 2: You know.

3200
02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 3: I have a friend who named their daughter Landry for

3201
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:47,680
Speaker 3: Tom Landry. Okay, yeah, so you know you get you

3202
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 3: see it every once in a while if you have

3203
02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:53,680
Speaker 3: named your uh son or daughter after your favorite athlete.

3204
02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 3: Let us know, I stick of genius what I k

3205
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:57,600
Speaker 3: figured because I'm giving Kate Figure a little bit of

3206
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:00,600
Speaker 3: grief for naming his son Oliver instead of aiming it up.

3207
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 2: Because you're a Laker fan Lebron I think, I mean,

3208
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:08,839
Speaker 2: what about bronnyyb it for the fruit absolutely Ronnie figures.

3209
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 2: Come on, it's one thing if there's like if it's like.

3210
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:14,000
Speaker 4: A somewhat you know, universal name, like if you want

3211
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:16,000
Speaker 4: if you wanted to name your kid after Jerry Jones,

3212
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 4: Jerry all right or Hyman Troy. But like if you

3213
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 4: ever wanted to name your kid after pop Eye Jones,

3214
02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:24,680
Speaker 4: it'd be different. They're like, there's pop Eye figures over here.

3215
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 4: You know what, Buck O'Neill, Yeah, here's a Buck Anderson

3216
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 4: over there.

3217
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:28,520
Speaker 2: You know me.

3218
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:31,720
Speaker 3: I suppose you're the big so you're the biggest diehard

3219
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 3: Laker fan ever and the biggest Lebron fan ever, and

3220
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:37,600
Speaker 3: you named your son Lebron, and then Lebron left.

3221
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:39,920
Speaker 2: The Lakers and you hated it. Would you have to

3222
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 2: change your son's name.

3223
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 4: Or what Yeah, we got we gotta you gotta redo

3224
02:11:43,400 --> 02:11:45,600
Speaker 4: the go back and do the birth certificate over again

3225
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 4: and chang and change it all.

3226
02:11:46,720 --> 02:11:50,240
Speaker 2: I can't do that, he scored. Scored me, well, I got.

3227
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:52,000
Speaker 4: You can imagine if I was a Raider fan back,

3228
02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 4: you know, in the in the eighties early nineties, and

3229
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 4: Marcus Allen had his falling out with Al Davis and

3230
02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:57,920
Speaker 4: which the Kansas City Chiefs at the.

3231
02:11:57,880 --> 02:11:59,880
Speaker 2: Time, if my kid was named Marcus, I'd be like,

3232
02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't have my kid while rolling around

3233
02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:05,480
Speaker 2: with the Kansas City Chiefs name this ridiculous, is sacrilege.

3234
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,240
Speaker 2: It would have to change. No, you're right, it would

3235
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:09,160
Speaker 2: have to change.

3236
02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:13,440
Speaker 3: Regis and stinking genius one At KFIG one last night,

3237
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 3: my New York Knicks had a nine point lead in

3238
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. They ended up losing it. I'm like,

3239
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying to myself, Oh, we need to make a run.

3240
02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 3: Maybe make this fifteen sixteen and we're going to steal

3241
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 3: Game three. They couldn't do it.

3242
02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:27,720
Speaker 2: Give the Pacers credit for bouncing on back and taking

3243
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 2: the game. Og missing him really hurt. Ye.

3244
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:34,240
Speaker 3: The Knicks did the best they really could before the game.

3245
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:38,560
Speaker 3: I even suggested maybe if Brunson was questionable, maybe sitting

3246
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 3: him down and kind of quote unquote punting on the

3247
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 3: game and just.

3248
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:44,560
Speaker 2: Letting everybody rest.

3249
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen in game four,

3250
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:50,360
Speaker 3: and how healthy Brontston is. You could tell he's only

3251
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:51,520
Speaker 3: about seventy five percent.

3252
02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:55,280
Speaker 2: He didn't look great, and he still had to what twenty.

3253
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 4: Five, yeah, twenty six, twenty six, but it was only

3254
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:58,800
Speaker 4: ten to twenty six from the field, so he was

3255
02:12:58,600 --> 02:13:00,600
Speaker 4: he was, you know, gutting too that gutting it out.

3256
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:02,720
Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, it was tough.

3257
02:13:02,840 --> 02:13:05,640
Speaker 3: It's physical out there, but it's physical on both ways.

3258
02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:10,000
Speaker 3: You know, Halliburton twisted his ankle. It's getting injuries on

3259
02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 3: both ways. Should the reps call it closer or now

3260
02:13:13,160 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 3: it's too little, too late.

3261
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 2: And you got to continue the way it is right now.

3262
02:13:16,120 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 2: I just think you've got to be consistent.

3263
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,120
Speaker 4: You've been They've been consistent this entire postseason calling it

3264
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,520
Speaker 4: not really calling it tight. I think calling it pretty

3265
02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:24,360
Speaker 4: loose and letting teams play a little bit and having

3266
02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:27,160
Speaker 4: it be a little more physical than we're traditionally used

3267
02:13:27,160 --> 02:13:29,720
Speaker 4: to in today's NBA. And I think it's It's made

3268
02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:32,880
Speaker 4: for a pretty solid entertaining product across the board for

3269
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:34,720
Speaker 4: the majority of the playoffs. So I don't I don't

3270
02:13:34,760 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 4: mind them, you know, letting the guys play and having

3271
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:38,400
Speaker 4: the having the play be a little bit more physical.

3272
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:40,600
Speaker 2: What's going to end up happening is, you know, for.

3273
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:43,640
Speaker 4: A team that's that's guard dominant, like the Knicks, and

3274
02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 4: your best players, you know, are your brunt sends, your hearts,

3275
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:50,440
Speaker 4: your devincenzos, and specifically Brunson, who everything runs through him.

3276
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:52,080
Speaker 4: The more and more you have to run through him,

3277
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:53,720
Speaker 4: the more and more physical they play with him, and

3278
02:13:53,760 --> 02:13:55,440
Speaker 4: he gets banged up, you know, it's going to be

3279
02:13:55,480 --> 02:13:57,800
Speaker 4: diminishing returns. And those ten for the ten for twenty

3280
02:13:57,800 --> 02:14:00,800
Speaker 4: six tonight might turn into nine for twenty nine a

3281
02:14:00,840 --> 02:14:03,120
Speaker 4: couple of nights from now, and could turn into seven

3282
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:05,200
Speaker 4: for thirty two the night after that. And I can

3283
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:07,040
Speaker 4: just see him getting banged up and running out of gas.

3284
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:10,200
Speaker 4: Which to your point, now now that you already know

3285
02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:12,640
Speaker 4: the end results, and they ended up losing a close

3286
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:15,280
Speaker 4: game on Friday night, yeah you almost say, well, yeah,

3287
02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 4: they probably should have sad him just punted on tonight.

3288
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:19,920
Speaker 4: You can still have the next game coming up with

3289
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 4: a chance to go up three games to one. Even

3290
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:24,080
Speaker 4: if you would have said that to me going into

3291
02:14:24,120 --> 02:14:25,600
Speaker 4: the game, I probably would have said it, you know what,

3292
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 4: It's not something I'm opposed to.

3293
02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:29,720
Speaker 3: You know, in a way I could see that where

3294
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:31,800
Speaker 3: people say, well, you lost one eleven, one oh six.

3295
02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:34,800
Speaker 3: So if you knew that Hindsight's twenty twenty, would you've

3296
02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:38,720
Speaker 3: arrested Jayalen Brunson. My answer still would have been no, Yeah,

3297
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:40,880
Speaker 3: because I think it gave not that the Knicks needed

3298
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:43,600
Speaker 3: any confidence, but if they were going to lose the

3299
02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:46,040
Speaker 3: game by thirty, then yes, I would say yes, And

3300
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:48,320
Speaker 3: he probably wouldn't have played the second half. The fact

3301
02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:50,560
Speaker 3: that he kept it so close I think gets in

3302
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:52,800
Speaker 3: the Pacers head a little bit that they were down

3303
02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 3: by nine in the fourth quarter and saying, no matter

3304
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:56,680
Speaker 3: who's out there for the New York Dicks, we got

3305
02:14:56,680 --> 02:14:57,120
Speaker 3: to be careful.

3306
02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:58,360
Speaker 2: You don't go out to a certain degree.

3307
02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:00,240
Speaker 4: There's also and as well as the even Chinz was

3308
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:02,840
Speaker 4: played and he's really stepped up since Julius Randall went down.

3309
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:04,800
Speaker 2: Phenomenal. Yeah, the nomenal there is an.

3310
02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:07,520
Speaker 4: Element of I dare to have Dante Devincenzo will drop

3311
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:09,640
Speaker 4: thirty five on me again. It's almost like there was

3312
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:11,720
Speaker 4: a wasted effort on his part. You're not gonna get

3313
02:15:11,720 --> 02:15:13,400
Speaker 4: that sort of effort from Devincenzo again.

3314
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:15,520
Speaker 2: They won't need that effort. You won't have to that.

3315
02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would hope not, assuming Jalen Brunson bounces back

3316
02:15:18,240 --> 02:15:20,560
Speaker 4: and is healthy again, and this isn't the start of

3317
02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:21,200
Speaker 4: a regression.

3318
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:23,720
Speaker 2: That's the only issue. You know, we can play must

3319
02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:26,560
Speaker 2: banged up. We could plain if we drag out the games.

3320
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:29,120
Speaker 3: And now I'm complaining because they're moving too fast Monday, Wednesday,

3321
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:31,320
Speaker 3: Friday Sunday because the New York Nicks so don't have

3322
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 3: enough time to rest, you know.

3323
02:15:32,680 --> 02:15:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was really working at a disadvantage for

3324
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:37,480
Speaker 4: them that they're playing on this every other night schedule,

3325
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:39,240
Speaker 4: whereas you look at the teams in the West that

3326
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:41,120
Speaker 4: have two and three nights off in between games.

3327
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:44,640
Speaker 2: It's it's crushing me. It's hurting the New York Knicks.

3328
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:47,040
Speaker 2: And now the fact that Boston lost that it's one

3329
02:15:47,040 --> 02:15:48,920
Speaker 2: game at piece. I was afraid that Boston was.

3330
02:15:48,920 --> 02:15:51,880
Speaker 3: Going to sweep Cleveland and they're gonna be sitting around

3331
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:55,520
Speaker 3: getting healthy, waiting for the winner of the Pacers Knicks. Now,

3332
02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:58,680
Speaker 3: I feel the Cleveland Boston series gonna go at least

3333
02:15:58,720 --> 02:16:02,000
Speaker 3: six games. I don't confidence in Boston that they're gonna

3334
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:03,520
Speaker 3: go ahead and win three games in a row, even

3335
02:16:03,560 --> 02:16:06,680
Speaker 3: though they did it against Miami. Miami had some major

3336
02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:08,840
Speaker 3: injuries there. Yeah, I think this one's gonna go at

3337
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:10,000
Speaker 3: least six games in this year.

3338
02:16:10,040 --> 02:16:10,640
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

3339
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:13,360
Speaker 4: The fact that I already penciled the Cavs in for

3340
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:15,720
Speaker 4: at least one home victory somewhere, whether it was Get

3341
02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:17,800
Speaker 4: three or Game four, and the fact that they stole

3342
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:20,440
Speaker 4: Game two and dominated pretty much from the start of

3343
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,720
Speaker 4: the second half through rush all the way through to

3344
02:16:22,760 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, but again without one of their best

3345
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:27,440
Speaker 4: players and one of their defensive calls in Jared Allen.

3346
02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:29,160
Speaker 4: If he's able to come back, that makes a big

3347
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 4: difference for them, you know. I mean, Evan Mobley has

3348
02:16:32,200 --> 02:16:35,080
Speaker 4: some confidence playing well, and obviously Donovan Mitchell balled out.

3349
02:16:35,480 --> 02:16:37,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I can easily see this going six And

3350
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,039
Speaker 4: the way that Boston has petered out in the playoffs

3351
02:16:39,080 --> 02:16:41,440
Speaker 4: the last couple of years is great. As a regular

3352
02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:43,800
Speaker 4: season as they had. Do you really have full on

3353
02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:46,840
Speaker 4: confidence to like one hundred percent. Stampa, say Boston's going

3354
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:49,080
Speaker 4: to the NBA Finals and they're winning a championship. I

3355
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:50,240
Speaker 4: don't feel confident in saying that.

3356
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:53,240
Speaker 3: No, And in the NFL, you could see a team

3357
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:55,520
Speaker 3: being a one seed to two seed, maybe having some

3358
02:16:55,600 --> 02:16:57,760
Speaker 3: bad luck and eliminated because it's.

3359
02:16:57,560 --> 02:16:58,199
Speaker 2: Just one game.

3360
02:16:58,320 --> 02:17:03,280
Speaker 3: Right In the NBA, rarely does a one seed draw

3361
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:05,959
Speaker 3: up empty year in and year out. It's not like

3362
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:08,640
Speaker 3: this is the Atlanta Braves winning divisions out here. The

3363
02:17:08,720 --> 02:17:12,400
Speaker 3: Celtics were the number one seed, easily, the number one

3364
02:17:12,440 --> 02:17:15,680
Speaker 3: seed in the Eastern Conference, in the easiest conference. They

3365
02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:17,720
Speaker 3: should not be struggling. A matter of fact, I'd be

3366
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:20,480
Speaker 3: surprised where they would end up in the West and

3367
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:21,720
Speaker 3: where would they come out.

3368
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,480
Speaker 2: They might even be eliminated in the first round, but

3369
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:27,760
Speaker 2: they should not be struggling.

3370
02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:29,360
Speaker 3: Like they are over the last couple of years where

3371
02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:32,320
Speaker 3: you mentioned they were fifteen to fifteen in the playoffs,

3372
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:35,000
Speaker 3: considering they've been like a number one or a number

3373
02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:36,080
Speaker 3: two seed most of those years.

3374
02:17:36,080 --> 02:17:37,880
Speaker 2: In the games they've lost at home, I mean all

3375
02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:40,520
Speaker 2: games seven at home to Miami last year. I mean

3376
02:17:40,520 --> 02:17:42,959
Speaker 2: that that shouldn't happen. Who it is happening way too

3377
02:17:42,959 --> 02:17:45,520
Speaker 2: often these last few years for Boston. So you want

3378
02:17:45,560 --> 02:17:47,520
Speaker 2: they're not going to blow it up. I'm not suggesting

3379
02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:47,920
Speaker 2: that they do.

3380
02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:51,000
Speaker 4: But at a certain point, you're at what year four

3381
02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:54,879
Speaker 4: or five of this particular core together, At what point

3382
02:17:54,879 --> 02:17:56,360
Speaker 4: in time do you say, maybe this ain't working. We

3383
02:17:56,440 --> 02:17:58,120
Speaker 4: got to shake things up. Despite the fact that you

3384
02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:00,440
Speaker 4: want sixty eight games. You're a great regular season team,

3385
02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:03,279
Speaker 4: but you can end up falling short and the principal

3386
02:18:03,280 --> 02:18:05,840
Speaker 4: figures change, whether it's Miami, it's gonna end up being

3387
02:18:05,879 --> 02:18:07,640
Speaker 4: a different team this year, if they don't end up

3388
02:18:07,640 --> 02:18:09,879
Speaker 4: making it, you have just our question and whether or

3389
02:18:09,879 --> 02:18:11,879
Speaker 4: not what we're doing is the right recipe.

3390
02:18:11,959 --> 02:18:12,520
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3391
02:18:12,560 --> 02:18:14,800
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3392
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:16,959
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3393
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3397
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3399
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3400
02:18:38,959 --> 02:18:41,840
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3401
02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:45,080
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3402
02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:48,920
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3403
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:53,240
Speaker 2: All right, good morning, everybody on a span. You're Kevin Figures.

3404
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:57,080
Speaker 3: We're in for the fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz

3405
02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 3: on this Saturday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio.

3406
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:00,880
Speaker 2: You want to be part of the show.

3407
02:19:00,879 --> 02:19:04,440
Speaker 3: Real simple at Stink and genius one at k fig One.

3408
02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 3: By the way, we were talking about naming your newborn

3409
02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:12,400
Speaker 3: after your favorite athlete Chippers. Bo sends this in Chripper

3410
02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:15,280
Speaker 3: Joe's name is child Shay since he owned the New

3411
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:16,680
Speaker 3: York Mets.

3412
02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:20,200
Speaker 2: That's spectacular. I double checked that. I looked that up

3413
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:23,600
Speaker 2: and that is true. That's excellent. That is true. That's

3414
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:24,879
Speaker 2: exactly what he did.

3415
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:30,080
Speaker 3: So yes, three kids named one Schaeff for Shay stated.

3416
02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:32,200
Speaker 2: Because he wrecked the New York Mets. I named my

3417
02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:32,760
Speaker 2: kid Shaef.

3418
02:19:32,920 --> 02:19:35,240
Speaker 4: Chipper was kind of a silent assassin when he played,

3419
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:37,600
Speaker 4: but he's very outspoken now that he's retired. And that's

3420
02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:40,200
Speaker 4: that's that's amazing. Do you know Chipper's real first name?

3421
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:41,879
Speaker 2: I used to I don't know now what is because

3422
02:19:41,879 --> 02:19:44,400
Speaker 2: the met fans used to chant it, what was it? Larry?

3423
02:19:44,440 --> 02:19:46,039
Speaker 2: I think I think, yeah, Larry.

3424
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 3: I think they used to go Larry, Larry Frank Vogel,

3425
02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:51,959
Speaker 3: we know his name. He was fired after one year.

3426
02:19:53,360 --> 02:19:56,920
Speaker 3: I let me ask you this. Coaches that get fired

3427
02:19:56,959 --> 02:19:59,440
Speaker 3: after one year or a half a year and they

3428
02:19:59,480 --> 02:20:03,000
Speaker 3: signed what two three, five year or five year five.

3429
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:03,720
Speaker 2: Five year contract?

3430
02:20:03,720 --> 02:20:06,680
Speaker 3: I believe hundreds of millions of dollars. He's gonna get

3431
02:20:06,720 --> 02:20:09,560
Speaker 3: replaced by Budenholzer if I even said that, right, who

3432
02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:11,800
Speaker 3: was head coach of Milwaukee and he was fired.

3433
02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:14,080
Speaker 2: I think two years after winning a championship for Milwaukee.

3434
02:20:14,160 --> 02:20:17,440
Speaker 3: I think Milwaukee's paying like three coaches, and other than that,

3435
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:19,360
Speaker 3: they probably fired Doc Rivers if they didn't want to

3436
02:20:19,360 --> 02:20:22,920
Speaker 3: pay a fourth coach out there. How long should a

3437
02:20:22,959 --> 02:20:26,800
Speaker 3: coach be given in the NBA, in baseball, in the

3438
02:20:26,920 --> 02:20:31,520
Speaker 3: NFL even or can you fire a coach after one

3439
02:20:31,600 --> 02:20:33,640
Speaker 3: year if you know that it's not going to work?

3440
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:35,600
Speaker 2: Do you give him more than a year. It's kind

3441
02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:36,880
Speaker 2: of like a girlfriend going, well, I'm not going to

3442
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:39,760
Speaker 2: break up with him until after Valentine's Day, so I

3443
02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:42,080
Speaker 2: get the president or something like that. I don't know

3444
02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 2: that is one year?

3445
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:46,400
Speaker 3: Okay, shouldn't they at least be given two or three

3446
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:48,800
Speaker 3: years of a of a five year contract. Let's see

3447
02:20:48,840 --> 02:20:50,920
Speaker 3: what they can do. Or or no, if you know

3448
02:20:50,959 --> 02:20:53,080
Speaker 3: it's not gonna work, just cut your losses.

3449
02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:53,760
Speaker 2: And give rid of him right away.

3450
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:57,039
Speaker 4: Every situation is unique, but in a general rule, I

3451
02:20:57,160 --> 02:20:59,760
Speaker 4: like to give someone at least three years to kind

3452
02:20:59,760 --> 02:21:02,119
Speaker 4: of get their program in place their collegers.

3453
02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:04,440
Speaker 2: In college, we used to say four years because that's.

3454
02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:08,120
Speaker 4: Recruiting run class right, right, But now look, sometimes things

3455
02:21:08,120 --> 02:21:10,959
Speaker 4: are just completely and totally toxic and is just untenable

3456
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:12,640
Speaker 4: and there's no way you can keep a guy. Those

3457
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:16,199
Speaker 4: situations do end up happening, but not to the volume

3458
02:21:16,280 --> 02:21:19,080
Speaker 4: of how often this sort of thing happens. I feel

3459
02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:21,120
Speaker 4: like every maybe once every two or three years, we

3460
02:21:21,160 --> 02:21:23,480
Speaker 4: see somebody who gets the act after one season.

3461
02:21:23,480 --> 02:21:25,520
Speaker 3: Right or after they've been named coach of the How

3462
02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:27,840
Speaker 3: many coaches of the year have been fired one or

3463
02:21:27,879 --> 02:21:28,640
Speaker 3: two years later?

3464
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 2: Right?

3465
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:32,760
Speaker 4: It just impatience by ownership or the fan base get

3466
02:21:32,879 --> 02:21:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, falls out of favor.

3467
02:21:34,120 --> 02:21:35,800
Speaker 2: I met Frank Vogel is a good example.

3468
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:39,160
Speaker 4: You know, won a championship quote unquote Bubble Championship, if

3469
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:41,160
Speaker 4: you want to label at that. Whatever with the Lakers,

3470
02:21:41,480 --> 02:21:43,320
Speaker 4: you know, come back that next year they get bounced

3471
02:21:43,360 --> 02:21:45,600
Speaker 4: in the first round because they have injuries. Come back

3472
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:48,240
Speaker 4: the next year they trade for westbrook Everybody knew that

3473
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:49,800
Speaker 4: that was a bad trade. And it didn't matter who

3474
02:21:49,800 --> 02:21:51,840
Speaker 4: the coach was, it was gonna work. It wasn't gonna work.

3475
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:54,800
Speaker 2: How many coaches of Lebron had over the cost so many,

3476
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:57,640
Speaker 2: so many, And Frank Vogel basically was the one that

3477
02:21:57,680 --> 02:21:59,520
Speaker 2: got the acts. He had to fall on the sword.

3478
02:22:00,160 --> 02:22:02,600
Speaker 4: They couldn't fire Lebron, they couldn't fire a d and

3479
02:22:02,680 --> 02:22:04,480
Speaker 4: at that point in time, because Westbrooks still had two

3480
02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:06,199
Speaker 4: years left on his deal, they couldn't trade him again.

3481
02:22:06,520 --> 02:22:08,280
Speaker 4: So basically, Frank Vogel was the one that had to

3482
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:10,640
Speaker 4: end up getting fired for it. Now because the Phoenix

3483
02:22:10,680 --> 02:22:12,600
Speaker 4: Suns had all these shortcomings. They bring on all these

3484
02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:14,680
Speaker 4: stars and none of these guys can stay healthy. What

3485
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:16,320
Speaker 4: did they play twenty something games together?

3486
02:22:16,879 --> 02:22:19,680
Speaker 2: Even that? So is that Frank Vogel's fault? No, No,

3487
02:22:19,720 --> 02:22:22,200
Speaker 2: not at all. Maybe they just didn't like him, or

3488
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:23,800
Speaker 2: I don't think it was the fans that say we

3489
02:22:23,800 --> 02:22:24,800
Speaker 2: got to get him out of here.

3490
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:27,720
Speaker 4: I didn't get that vibe. No, not at all. It's

3491
02:22:27,840 --> 02:22:30,040
Speaker 4: just that we have these star players. We made it

3492
02:22:30,080 --> 02:22:32,360
Speaker 4: into the playoffs. All three of the guys were healthy

3493
02:22:32,360 --> 02:22:34,480
Speaker 4: at the time we made it in. And because these

3494
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:37,160
Speaker 4: are all phenomenal scores, a couple of guys maybe going

3495
02:22:37,160 --> 02:22:39,520
Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame, you should be able to

3496
02:22:39,560 --> 02:22:41,760
Speaker 4: out talent teams and be able to win, even though

3497
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:43,320
Speaker 4: we know that's just not how this works.

3498
02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:44,920
Speaker 2: It's not how it goes all the time.

3499
02:22:45,160 --> 02:22:47,080
Speaker 3: People want to win, and they want to win right away.

3500
02:22:47,160 --> 02:22:50,040
Speaker 3: I think in the NBA you could probably win faster

3501
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:53,080
Speaker 3: than you can in the NFL. But I would love

3502
02:22:53,160 --> 02:22:55,240
Speaker 3: somebody to do the research on how many coaches have

3503
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:57,640
Speaker 3: been fired and how much money they're still getting paid

3504
02:22:57,640 --> 02:23:00,760
Speaker 3: from their previous owner, you know what I mean, because

3505
02:23:01,360 --> 02:23:02,800
Speaker 3: it's got to be way up there.

3506
02:23:02,840 --> 02:23:04,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's getting it's getting ridiculous.

3507
02:23:04,600 --> 02:23:06,760
Speaker 3: D It's like the NBA, we know there's gonna be

3508
02:23:06,760 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 3: what two, three, four, five firings at the end of every.

3509
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:09,840
Speaker 2: Year, right Well.

3510
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:11,600
Speaker 4: The big issue in the NBA too, is like if

3511
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:14,080
Speaker 4: you're a coach and there's a team, I say, the

3512
02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 4: Lakers are a great example of this. You have two

3513
02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:19,480
Speaker 4: superstars once, you know, one guy with Lebron James, who

3514
02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:22,720
Speaker 4: wields you know, such high authority. You know, you know

3515
02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:25,320
Speaker 4: exactly what the expectation is. If we're not making it

3516
02:23:25,360 --> 02:23:27,920
Speaker 4: to the NBA Finals or winning a championship, I'm on

3517
02:23:27,959 --> 02:23:30,080
Speaker 4: the hot seat immediately. They went to the conference finals

3518
02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:32,800
Speaker 4: last year, the Lakers did against Denver, maybe back to

3519
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:35,680
Speaker 4: the first round this year, and and Darbnham got fired

3520
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:36,480
Speaker 4: after two seasons.

3521
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:38,760
Speaker 2: No, no offense. But does it really make a difference,

3522
02:23:38,920 --> 02:23:43,960
Speaker 2: Frank Vogel, Tyron Lou You know, so just a lot

3523
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:46,120
Speaker 2: of these guys that I've worked with Lebron and got

3524
02:23:46,160 --> 02:23:49,720
Speaker 2: fired or had a team and got fired. Is one

3525
02:23:49,800 --> 02:23:52,520
Speaker 2: coach really that Doc Rivers is one coach so much

3526
02:23:52,560 --> 02:23:55,400
Speaker 2: better than the other? Or cause, like I said, it's

3527
02:23:55,400 --> 02:23:58,920
Speaker 2: not like you know Doc Rivers or you know, uh,

3528
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:04,199
Speaker 2: they're yelling out plays saying, okay, Darvin Ham showing Lebron

3529
02:24:04,280 --> 02:24:06,840
Speaker 2: run play three, run play three. It's not happy.

3530
02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:09,440
Speaker 3: Maybe they're running something after a time out, but that's

3531
02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:10,560
Speaker 3: not really going on there.

3532
02:24:10,600 --> 02:24:12,040
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's really a play.

3533
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:14,119
Speaker 4: How much of the players in the locker room respect

3534
02:24:14,520 --> 02:24:16,560
Speaker 4: you know what you have to say what's your relationship

3535
02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:19,120
Speaker 4: and keeping the locker room together and really honestly just

3536
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:21,039
Speaker 4: playcating the egos of your star players.

3537
02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:22,520
Speaker 2: I think that's part of the reason.

3538
02:24:22,640 --> 02:24:25,640
Speaker 4: Remember before the Bucks won the championship, Budenhozer was on

3539
02:24:25,640 --> 02:24:27,480
Speaker 4: the hot seat that year and they said if he

3540
02:24:27,520 --> 02:24:29,240
Speaker 4: didn't make a deep run into the postseason, he was

3541
02:24:29,240 --> 02:24:30,400
Speaker 4: probably gonna get fired.

3542
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:31,119
Speaker 2: They won the.

3543
02:24:31,120 --> 02:24:34,560
Speaker 4: Championship, so that staved off his firing for about two

3544
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:37,240
Speaker 4: more seasons. But apparently he had a riff with Giannis,

3545
02:24:37,240 --> 02:24:39,040
Speaker 4: and Giannis didn't like him. This is all reportedly. I

3546
02:24:39,080 --> 02:24:40,640
Speaker 4: don't know if it's true or not right, and that's

3547
02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:42,440
Speaker 4: a big reason why he got the acts despite the

3548
02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:44,400
Speaker 4: fact that he won a championship. You have to be

3549
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:47,120
Speaker 4: able to play nice with superstars and quite honest, Like,

3550
02:24:47,160 --> 02:24:50,000
Speaker 4: if I'm a head coach, I'd rather go to a rebuild.

3551
02:24:50,360 --> 02:24:53,000
Speaker 4: I'd rather be in Orlando like Mosley. I'd rather be

3552
02:24:53,480 --> 02:24:56,080
Speaker 4: like Diagno out in Oklahoma City. I'll just be a

3553
02:24:56,120 --> 02:24:58,280
Speaker 4: young coach. I know the expectations are low. Let's get

3554
02:24:58,320 --> 02:25:00,440
Speaker 4: some some high draft picks and hopefully I can coach

3555
02:25:00,480 --> 02:25:02,600
Speaker 4: these guys up and then I can earn my medal

3556
02:25:02,800 --> 02:25:05,360
Speaker 4: as opposed to, you know, signing on with the team

3557
02:25:05,360 --> 02:25:08,320
Speaker 4: white the Lakers, or like Indiana, or excuse me, like

3558
02:25:08,560 --> 02:25:12,600
Speaker 4: Milwaukee who have established star players Boston knowing that if

3559
02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:15,160
Speaker 4: things go sideways, I'm gonna be the guy that's gonna

3560
02:25:15,160 --> 02:25:17,199
Speaker 4: get blamed for it. It's not gonna be the star player.

3561
02:25:17,240 --> 02:25:18,760
Speaker 4: That's That's just how it works in the NBA.

3562
02:25:18,920 --> 02:25:20,840
Speaker 2: All right, We got our picks on the series for

3563
02:25:20,879 --> 02:25:23,000
Speaker 2: the games today and tomorrow. We'll get to that.

3564
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:25,320
Speaker 3: On how they're going to play out and what's going

3565
02:25:25,360 --> 02:25:27,680
Speaker 3: on with this Shack Shannon sharpfeud.

3566
02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have Kate Fig explain not to be all that.

3567
02:25:30,040 --> 02:25:32,200
Speaker 2: Coming up next first though, we get a final check

3568
02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:35,360
Speaker 2: of what's happening out there and what's trending with Kate Fig.

3569
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:36,680
Speaker 2: What's going on k Fig? All right?

3570
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:39,279
Speaker 4: Well, speaking of the NBA, the home team still searching

3571
02:25:39,320 --> 02:25:42,240
Speaker 4: for a victory in the two Wolves Nuggets playoff series,

3572
02:25:42,240 --> 02:25:45,120
Speaker 4: Denver picking up the one to seventeen to ninety win

3573
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:48,280
Speaker 4: on Friday night, cutting Minnesota's series lead to two games

3574
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:51,200
Speaker 4: to one. Nicola Jokic and Jamal Murray with twenty four

3575
02:25:51,240 --> 02:25:54,400
Speaker 4: points each for Denver. Anthony Edward did score nineteen points

3576
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:58,120
Speaker 4: for Minnesota, but committed five turnovers. Indiana overcame a nine

3577
02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:01,040
Speaker 4: point fourth quarter deficit to feat the Nicks one eleven

3578
02:26:01,120 --> 02:26:03,800
Speaker 4: to one oh six. Tyre's Halliburton a game high thirty

3579
02:26:03,800 --> 02:26:06,360
Speaker 4: five points and Andrew Nimhart with the goal ahead three

3580
02:26:06,360 --> 02:26:08,520
Speaker 4: points are lates. New York's lead in the series is

3581
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:11,240
Speaker 4: now two games to one. In the NHL, Edmonton defeated

3582
02:26:11,320 --> 02:26:14,000
Speaker 4: Vancouver in overtime four to three, tying that series at

3583
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:16,080
Speaker 4: a game apiece. Florida has a two to one series

3584
02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:18,200
Speaker 4: lead over Boston after picking up a six to two

3585
02:26:18,280 --> 02:26:19,400
Speaker 4: victory in Beantown.

3586
02:26:19,760 --> 02:26:20,640
Speaker 2: And baseball, the San.

3587
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:23,039
Speaker 4: Diego Padres got a walk off RBI single from Luisa

3588
02:26:23,120 --> 02:26:25,400
Speaker 4: Ries in a two to one victory over the Dodgers.

3589
02:26:25,560 --> 02:26:28,200
Speaker 4: Three hits for Willia Damas as the Brewers hammert the Cardinals.

3590
02:26:28,320 --> 02:26:32,600
Speaker 4: Colorado beat Texas four to two. You had victories for Phillies, Yankees,

3591
02:26:32,640 --> 02:26:35,720
Speaker 4: and the Atlanta Braves. Back to the Fellas, all right,

3592
02:26:35,720 --> 02:26:38,320
Speaker 4: thanks a lot, Kevin Figures, Arnie Spanier. We're in for

3593
02:26:38,400 --> 02:26:41,840
Speaker 4: the Fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz right here on

3594
02:26:41,879 --> 02:26:42,800
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio.

3595
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:43,800
Speaker 2: You want to be part of the show.

3596
02:26:43,840 --> 02:26:47,800
Speaker 3: Real simple at stinking Genius one at k FIG one.

3597
02:26:47,879 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 3: So we'll check Twitter a little bit later on what

3598
02:26:50,959 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 3: the heck's going on with this Shaquille O'Neal Shaddon Sharp

3599
02:26:54,520 --> 02:26:57,280
Speaker 3: a feud. What's happening? There been trying to keep up.

3600
02:26:58,040 --> 02:26:59,080
Speaker 3: It's get pretty bad, you.

3601
02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:01,520
Speaker 4: Know, so from what I under So we talked a

3602
02:27:01,560 --> 02:27:03,760
Speaker 4: little earlier in the show about Shaq, you know, telling

3603
02:27:03,879 --> 02:27:07,199
Speaker 4: Nicola Jokic during his interview after accepting the MVP award

3604
02:27:07,640 --> 02:27:09,560
Speaker 4: it should have gone to shake yelage as Alexander, you

3605
02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:12,720
Speaker 4: shouldn't have won the MVP. So Shannon Sharp comes out

3606
02:27:12,760 --> 02:27:15,280
Speaker 4: and says, well, Shaq, I think is just jealous of

3607
02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:18,760
Speaker 4: guys winning multiple MVP awards because he never really did that.

3608
02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:20,720
Speaker 4: He won some finals MVPs, but he only won one

3609
02:27:20,800 --> 02:27:23,320
Speaker 4: during the regular season, and it was because he didn't

3610
02:27:23,360 --> 02:27:25,680
Speaker 4: work hard and he was really lazy. It was our

3611
02:27:25,760 --> 02:27:28,279
Speaker 4: old friend and colleague Dave Smith. It was his own narrative.

3612
02:27:28,320 --> 02:27:30,960
Speaker 4: There are anywhere Shack was always fat and out of shape, etc.

3613
02:27:31,640 --> 02:27:34,520
Speaker 4: So that's basically what Shannon Sharp said. So then Shaq

3614
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:36,600
Speaker 4: claps back and says, like, you can't speak on me

3615
02:27:36,920 --> 02:27:38,680
Speaker 4: because you're not even one of the top ten players

3616
02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:39,640
Speaker 4: at your position.

3617
02:27:39,320 --> 02:27:40,400
Speaker 2: Which by the way, is not true.

3618
02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:42,080
Speaker 4: I think in any list of the top tight ends

3619
02:27:42,080 --> 02:27:44,760
Speaker 4: in NFL history, Shannon Sharp is probably somewhere in the

3620
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:47,000
Speaker 4: top ten, but that's neither here nor there. So that

3621
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:49,560
Speaker 4: was Shaq's retort. He is, like, you're jealous of me.

3622
02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:50,640
Speaker 4: I was a great player.

3623
02:27:50,680 --> 02:27:51,080
Speaker 5: You're not.

3624
02:27:51,440 --> 02:27:53,160
Speaker 4: You can't speak on me because you weren't the same

3625
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:56,200
Speaker 4: caliber player that I was. Shannon Sharp was like, I

3626
02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:58,240
Speaker 4: was a low draft pick. I'll busted my ass to

3627
02:27:58,320 --> 02:28:00,080
Speaker 4: be one of the best players at my position for

3628
02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:02,240
Speaker 4: as long as I was. If you worked half as

3629
02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:04,600
Speaker 4: hard as me, and I'm paraphrasing basically at this point,

3630
02:28:04,840 --> 02:28:06,280
Speaker 4: if you worked half as hard as me, you would

3631
02:28:06,280 --> 02:28:08,080
Speaker 4: have been considered one of the all time greats in

3632
02:28:08,120 --> 02:28:10,120
Speaker 4: the history of the sport, not just an all time

3633
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:12,600
Speaker 4: great big man. But it's well document that you didn't

3634
02:28:12,600 --> 02:28:14,560
Speaker 4: work hard. So then Shack will release some sort of

3635
02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:17,200
Speaker 4: dis track on Instagram, and that's kind of like where

3636
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:18,959
Speaker 4: it sits at the moment, so that that's kind of

3637
02:28:18,959 --> 02:28:19,440
Speaker 4: what it is.

3638
02:28:19,640 --> 02:28:21,680
Speaker 3: I hate when they say you weren't as good as

3639
02:28:21,720 --> 02:28:25,560
Speaker 3: I was, so you can't talk about me. Can you

3640
02:28:25,600 --> 02:28:29,720
Speaker 3: imagine if you know, because every athlete says something about politics.

3641
02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:33,640
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if I said, well, what big Ivy

3642
02:28:33,720 --> 02:28:35,959
Speaker 3: League school, how many countries have you run? Well, you

3643
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:38,560
Speaker 3: can't speak about politics. How about if they need to

3644
02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:41,720
Speaker 3: have surgery and they visited three doctors and each say

3645
02:28:41,720 --> 02:28:43,480
Speaker 3: one says you need surgery, one doesn't.

3646
02:28:43,680 --> 02:28:46,400
Speaker 2: Well, how are you going to decide you're not a doctor? Right?

3647
02:28:46,640 --> 02:28:48,000
Speaker 2: What did you go to medical school?

3648
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:50,039
Speaker 3: Well, you learn the most you can and you come

3649
02:28:50,120 --> 02:28:52,400
Speaker 3: up with an informed decision out there. I hate when

3650
02:28:52,400 --> 02:28:54,199
Speaker 3: they say, well, you're not one of the top ten,

3651
02:28:54,520 --> 02:28:58,240
Speaker 3: so you can't talk, but only nine people in you

3652
02:28:58,280 --> 02:29:01,480
Speaker 3: can talk about Shaquille O'Neil. Yeah, top ten in their position,

3653
02:29:01,560 --> 02:29:03,400
Speaker 3: I think that I don't have to, like they said,

3654
02:29:03,560 --> 02:29:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't have to be an apple to know what

3655
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:05,640
Speaker 3: one tastes like.

3656
02:29:05,720 --> 02:29:06,160
Speaker 2: You correct.

3657
02:29:06,200 --> 02:29:08,600
Speaker 4: It's one of the laziest arguments, and usually when you

3658
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:11,360
Speaker 4: don't have a good response, that's what you say. It's

3659
02:29:11,360 --> 02:29:13,800
Speaker 4: when the when Shaq and Charles Barkley have debates on

3660
02:29:13,840 --> 02:29:16,720
Speaker 4: the set and Shaq resorts to, well, how many championships

3661
02:29:16,720 --> 02:29:17,120
Speaker 4: have you won?

3662
02:29:17,320 --> 02:29:19,640
Speaker 2: Right? What does that matter in the court? It doesn't

3663
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:20,200
Speaker 2: mean anything.

3664
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:22,520
Speaker 4: That's because that the only retort that you have is

3665
02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:24,920
Speaker 4: the fact that you won titles and he didn't. And

3666
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:27,080
Speaker 4: if you get into a debate with Kenny, you say, look,

3667
02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:28,560
Speaker 4: how many All Star games did you make? Are you

3668
02:29:28,640 --> 02:29:30,920
Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame because Kenny won championships? He

3669
02:29:30,959 --> 02:29:32,600
Speaker 4: can't use that, but he can say that Kenny was

3670
02:29:32,600 --> 02:29:35,080
Speaker 4: a role player, not a star. So it's just look,

3671
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:37,600
Speaker 4: I love Shaq, good guy. Look at Robert or Robert

3672
02:29:37,720 --> 02:29:39,000
Speaker 4: Ory has what how many championships?

3673
02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:41,520
Speaker 2: I got seven? I think it is, you know, so,

3674
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:43,200
Speaker 2: but you just move in there.

3675
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:46,280
Speaker 4: When you don't have a good comeback, you resort to, well,

3676
02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:48,520
Speaker 4: my resume is better than yours, so I can speak

3677
02:29:48,520 --> 02:29:50,520
Speaker 4: as an authority and you can't. And that's just a

3678
02:29:50,600 --> 02:29:53,640
Speaker 4: lazy argument and it's not a real argument. It's really

3679
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:54,920
Speaker 4: Patty on shack spots to do that.

3680
02:29:55,240 --> 02:29:59,000
Speaker 2: Speaking about the MVP though, first of all, I'm okay

3681
02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:01,160
Speaker 2: with Yo chatting it. I think he deserve to get it.

3682
02:30:01,320 --> 02:30:05,160
Speaker 2: But what a game by Denver, Yeah, putting down, you know,

3683
02:30:05,360 --> 02:30:09,120
Speaker 2: putting him down like that. They went ahead, and you know,

3684
02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:11,320
Speaker 2: Minnesota learned their lesson beat up two nothing.

3685
02:30:11,320 --> 02:30:13,160
Speaker 3: All they had to do was win that game. They'd

3686
02:30:13,160 --> 02:30:14,600
Speaker 3: be up three to nothing and they pretty much have

3687
02:30:14,680 --> 02:30:15,320
Speaker 3: this series done.

3688
02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:15,560
Speaker 2: You know.

3689
02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't come out lack a day's ago and

3690
02:30:17,480 --> 02:30:20,440
Speaker 4: give playoff games away. That's something that as a young

3691
02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:23,000
Speaker 4: team they're gonna have to learn because they look they

3692
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:25,199
Speaker 4: came out with all the confidence. We went into the altitude,

3693
02:30:25,480 --> 02:30:27,400
Speaker 4: you know, beat them in game one, mopped the floor

3694
02:30:27,440 --> 02:30:29,800
Speaker 4: with them in game two, so clearly they're gonna lay down.

3695
02:30:29,879 --> 02:30:32,120
Speaker 4: We have the home crowd behind us. This should be easy,

3696
02:30:32,200 --> 02:30:34,280
Speaker 4: you know, light work for us, and that wasn't the

3697
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:36,440
Speaker 4: case off jump and they just on.

3698
02:30:36,440 --> 02:30:38,120
Speaker 2: Once they got punched in the mouth, they weren't able

3699
02:30:38,160 --> 02:30:38,560
Speaker 2: to recover.

3700
02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:40,680
Speaker 4: Minnesota has been one of the more physical teams in

3701
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:43,359
Speaker 4: the NBA all season long, and they got out physical

3702
02:30:43,480 --> 02:30:44,360
Speaker 4: on their own home floor.

3703
02:30:44,400 --> 02:30:45,160
Speaker 2: The fact that.

3704
02:30:45,480 --> 02:30:47,440
Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert had four rebounds when he's one of the

3705
02:30:47,480 --> 02:30:50,320
Speaker 4: best rebounders in the entire NBA is glaring.

3706
02:30:50,680 --> 02:30:51,120
Speaker 2: It really is.

3707
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:53,560
Speaker 4: Between him and Karl and Anthony Towns had nine rebounds

3708
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:55,440
Speaker 4: combined together on Friday night.

3709
02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:58,280
Speaker 2: That speaks volumes. So have we pumped the brakes so

3710
02:30:58,320 --> 02:31:00,680
Speaker 2: a little bit on Minnesota or there still as good

3711
02:31:00,680 --> 02:31:03,360
Speaker 2: as is advertised out there because of what's going on.

3712
02:31:03,440 --> 02:31:05,520
Speaker 4: I think they're as good as advertised because we've seen

3713
02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:07,600
Speaker 4: what they can do when they're at their best. So

3714
02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:09,959
Speaker 4: but I will say this, and it's I know it's

3715
02:31:09,959 --> 02:31:11,959
Speaker 4: still early in the series. We're going into Game four

3716
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:14,320
Speaker 4: to say that it's a quote unquote must win, But

3717
02:31:14,440 --> 02:31:16,160
Speaker 4: I really do think that this a must win for

3718
02:31:16,240 --> 02:31:18,320
Speaker 4: Minnesota because if Denver goes in, it takes both of

3719
02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:21,600
Speaker 4: these games and gets their confidence back. The confidence all

3720
02:31:21,600 --> 02:31:23,960
Speaker 4: of a sudden is shaken for a Minnesota team that

3721
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:26,600
Speaker 4: doesn't have a whole lot of playoff experience versus a

3722
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:29,360
Speaker 4: Denver team that's been here and done that before. So

3723
02:31:29,800 --> 02:31:31,760
Speaker 4: I really do think that Minnesota has to win this

3724
02:31:31,840 --> 02:31:34,520
Speaker 4: game coming up in a couple of nights, or this

3725
02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:36,520
Speaker 4: is gonna be a swing back into Denver's favor.

3726
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:38,039
Speaker 2: They're gonna end up winning this thing in six.

3727
02:31:38,320 --> 02:31:42,480
Speaker 3: Who is a who has to win their game? Lack

3728
02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:46,000
Speaker 3: of better English have a must win their game? More

3729
02:31:46,400 --> 02:31:51,560
Speaker 3: Indiana to make it to to Denver, to make it

3730
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:54,520
Speaker 3: to too because I mean, let's let's be honest, they

3731
02:31:54,640 --> 02:31:57,720
Speaker 3: really got to go ahead and that or Boston to

3732
02:31:57,879 --> 02:32:01,600
Speaker 3: win at Cleveland to make it two to one. Who

3733
02:32:01,640 --> 02:32:02,840
Speaker 3: needs the victory more.

3734
02:32:04,520 --> 02:32:06,600
Speaker 4: I think, I honestly think that that's a tough one

3735
02:32:06,959 --> 02:32:09,520
Speaker 4: is it's not easy. It's not easy. There's a we

3736
02:32:09,640 --> 02:32:11,560
Speaker 4: I know it sounds weird. I still feel that Minnesota

3737
02:32:11,560 --> 02:32:13,720
Speaker 4: needs to win that game. I think Minnesota has to

3738
02:32:13,760 --> 02:32:15,640
Speaker 4: go up three to one because if they go to

3739
02:32:15,640 --> 02:32:17,440
Speaker 4: to there's no way. I don't think there's any way

3740
02:32:17,480 --> 02:32:19,440
Speaker 4: they're gonna win back in Denver. I don't think so either.

3741
02:32:19,520 --> 02:32:21,360
Speaker 4: I think I think Denver's done losing at home to

3742
02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:23,360
Speaker 4: this team. So they goes back to game fin Denver

3743
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:25,600
Speaker 4: goes up three to two, and now Pacers lose.

3744
02:32:25,600 --> 02:32:28,280
Speaker 2: They're done. Though I believe they're done. There is possibly

3745
02:32:28,480 --> 02:32:29,600
Speaker 2: most like the problem is.

3746
02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:31,440
Speaker 4: And I like the Knicks, and I love how gritty

3747
02:32:31,480 --> 02:32:34,360
Speaker 4: and how they're playing again with the attrition, with the

3748
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:36,640
Speaker 4: injuries they've had, they're not gonna get healthier. The way

3749
02:32:36,640 --> 02:32:40,000
Speaker 4: that Indiana can score. I know New York's defense is phenomenal,

3750
02:32:40,360 --> 02:32:42,320
Speaker 4: but Indiana can go off for one thirty and they

3751
02:32:42,320 --> 02:32:44,560
Speaker 4: haven't had one of those nights yet where everything is

3752
02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:46,800
Speaker 4: just working for them. I think you have to account

3753
02:32:46,840 --> 02:32:48,600
Speaker 4: for that for at least one game at some point

3754
02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:52,600
Speaker 4: in this series. I'm just being honest with you, Arnie right,

3755
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:54,160
Speaker 4: I'm just being honest. You know, I don't want to

3756
02:32:54,200 --> 02:32:55,920
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to burst your bubble here. I want

3757
02:32:55,959 --> 02:32:57,760
Speaker 4: to see the Knicks maker run. I love their team,

3758
02:32:57,800 --> 02:32:59,560
Speaker 4: I love their grit. I love to see a team

3759
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:01,640
Speaker 4: like that make a deep run of the postseason. But

3760
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:04,640
Speaker 4: I'm just keeping it real. So even if the New York,

3761
02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:06,160
Speaker 4: if the Knicks win the next game, I don't know

3762
02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:08,320
Speaker 4: if it's necessarily a must win for Indiana because I

3763
02:33:08,360 --> 02:33:11,280
Speaker 4: do think there are certain advantages that they do have

3764
02:33:11,320 --> 02:33:13,920
Speaker 4: from an offensive standpoint, and they can score some points.

3765
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:16,360
Speaker 4: I don't think if they go down three to one,

3766
02:33:16,520 --> 02:33:18,400
Speaker 4: I still think it's possible that they can force a

3767
02:33:18,440 --> 02:33:20,720
Speaker 4: game seven. I think it's more likely that they can

3768
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:24,920
Speaker 4: do that than the Minnesota. So I got in.

3769
02:33:24,959 --> 02:33:27,960
Speaker 3: Trouble before the start of the series. I was on

3770
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:30,840
Speaker 3: with Plank and he's like, Okay, how do you see

3771
02:33:30,840 --> 02:33:33,480
Speaker 3: the series? I go, you know, the Knicks should win

3772
02:33:33,520 --> 02:33:37,000
Speaker 3: this one pretty easily. I go, let's face it, what

3773
02:33:37,040 --> 02:33:39,480
Speaker 3: do the Pacers really have Caitlin Clark and who else?

3774
02:33:39,560 --> 02:33:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean, let's you gonna do that?

3775
02:33:43,440 --> 02:33:45,400
Speaker 3: I go, And then I go, all right, let's pick

3776
02:33:45,440 --> 02:33:47,280
Speaker 3: the game between the Knicks and the fever, I mean

3777
02:33:47,320 --> 02:33:48,080
Speaker 3: the Pacers.

3778
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:53,360
Speaker 2: Wow. So wow, Well now that's two games to one now,

3779
02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:56,720
Speaker 2: especially with the injuries that the that the Knicks are having.

3780
02:33:56,560 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely like that that's a factor. You can't act

3781
02:33:59,240 --> 02:34:01,440
Speaker 4: like it's not a factor. That's the big thing. If

3782
02:34:01,480 --> 02:34:04,039
Speaker 4: all things were equal, then I probably wouldn't be that

3783
02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:06,280
Speaker 4: concerned about the Knicks, because I do think styles make fights,

3784
02:34:06,320 --> 02:34:08,560
Speaker 4: and I do think when they have it working defensively,

3785
02:34:08,600 --> 02:34:10,879
Speaker 4: they have the elixa to be able to slow Indiana down.

3786
02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:13,280
Speaker 4: The problem is there's just too many guys who are

3787
02:34:13,280 --> 02:34:15,560
Speaker 4: getting banged up, and the guys who are already hurt

3788
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:17,360
Speaker 4: and out is putting more of a burden on the

3789
02:34:17,400 --> 02:34:20,119
Speaker 4: players like Josh Hard and de Vincenzo, you know, and

3790
02:34:20,480 --> 02:34:22,800
Speaker 4: to have to play more minutes and that's just gonna

3791
02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:25,240
Speaker 4: wear them down even more. For a young Indiana team

3792
02:34:25,280 --> 02:34:26,840
Speaker 4: that can get up and down and play and likes

3793
02:34:26,840 --> 02:34:29,879
Speaker 4: to run that that's only gonna the longer this series goes,

3794
02:34:29,920 --> 02:34:32,840
Speaker 4: it's only gonna play into Indiana's favor I think, all right, we.

3795
02:34:32,920 --> 02:34:36,000
Speaker 2: Got one segment to go, that's our picks segment, will

3796
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:38,840
Speaker 2: tell you who we like for the games today and tomorrow.

3797
02:34:38,879 --> 02:34:42,400
Speaker 2: That's coming up next, Arnie Spaniard, Kevin Figures. We're in

3798
02:34:42,440 --> 02:34:45,640
Speaker 2: for the fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason Fitz right here

3799
02:34:45,720 --> 02:34:50,240
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, thanks to Anthony

3800
02:34:50,240 --> 02:34:53,480
Speaker 2: Gargano with Jason Fitz for letting me fill in this morning.

3801
02:34:53,680 --> 02:34:56,959
Speaker 2: I'm sure they will be back next Saturday. Thanks to

3802
02:34:56,959 --> 02:35:00,000
Speaker 2: Ian Mark and of course Kate Fig for keeping me

3803
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:03,080
Speaker 2: the company on this Saturday morning. By the way, double

3804
02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:03,800
Speaker 2: duty for me.

3805
02:35:03,959 --> 02:35:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm back tonight with Jason Martin eight p to eleven

3806
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:13,560
Speaker 3: p Pacific. That's eleven P to two AY Eastern. Jason Martin,

3807
02:35:13,640 --> 02:35:17,240
Speaker 3: Aaron Torres with the night off, so they know as

3808
02:35:17,240 --> 02:35:20,160
Speaker 3: soon as the nick sluse, they immediately scheduled me for

3809
02:35:20,240 --> 02:35:23,000
Speaker 3: a lot more shifts so I could just suffer in

3810
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:24,360
Speaker 3: front of everybody's They know.

3811
02:35:24,320 --> 02:35:27,119
Speaker 4: You have a lot more time on your hands now, Yes, exactly, exactly,

3812
02:35:27,240 --> 02:35:28,720
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to some predictions.

3813
02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:32,279
Speaker 3: Let's start with the games today, three point thirty eastern.

3814
02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:35,920
Speaker 3: The thunder are in Dallas. That series tied at one

3815
02:35:35,959 --> 02:35:38,160
Speaker 3: game apiece. How do you see that one coming out?

3816
02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Kfig?

3817
02:35:38,800 --> 02:35:41,280
Speaker 4: I like Dallas again, you know now? Granted, Tim Hardaway

3818
02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:43,440
Speaker 4: Junior went off and had the game of his life.

3819
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:45,959
Speaker 4: But Luca and Kyrie Irving, I think are just kind

3820
02:35:45,959 --> 02:35:47,680
Speaker 4: of a buzz stall and I do think that Oklahoma

3821
02:35:47,720 --> 02:35:50,200
Speaker 4: City matches up with them fairly decently. But I do

3822
02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:52,280
Speaker 4: think the experience is gonna end up winning out in

3823
02:35:52,320 --> 02:35:55,600
Speaker 4: this series with Dallas. So I'm gonna take the Mavericks

3824
02:35:55,600 --> 02:35:56,600
Speaker 4: in this one to go up to one.

3825
02:35:56,720 --> 02:35:58,480
Speaker 3: Dallas only a two and a half point favorite to

3826
02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:01,040
Speaker 3: like them. I think that's a small no disrespect to

3827
02:36:01,040 --> 02:36:04,200
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City. Dallas at home, like you said, more of

3828
02:36:04,240 --> 02:36:07,000
Speaker 3: a veteran team. I think it could be somewhat of

3829
02:36:07,000 --> 02:36:09,800
Speaker 3: a close game, but maybe Dallas pulls away late like

3830
02:36:09,879 --> 02:36:13,320
Speaker 3: Dallas in that game and the Celtics and the Cavaliers

3831
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:16,240
Speaker 3: tied it one game a piece. This game in Cleveland,

3832
02:36:16,520 --> 02:36:19,000
Speaker 3: you know, I asked you who has a must win situation?

3833
02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:21,440
Speaker 2: We didn't bring up the Celtics. This is a pretty

3834
02:36:21,480 --> 02:36:23,360
Speaker 2: big game. They can't go down two to one.

3835
02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:26,520
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they won't win the series, but man, they

3836
02:36:26,520 --> 02:36:27,920
Speaker 3: don't want to go down two to one with a

3837
02:36:27,959 --> 02:36:30,760
Speaker 3: Game four in Cleveland, with the possibility of down three

3838
02:36:30,800 --> 02:36:31,120
Speaker 3: to one.

3839
02:36:31,320 --> 02:36:32,320
Speaker 2: How do you see this game?

3840
02:36:32,360 --> 02:36:34,160
Speaker 4: They don't want to go down two to one, but

3841
02:36:34,200 --> 02:36:36,160
Speaker 4: I still think they can afford to go down to

3842
02:36:36,160 --> 02:36:37,720
Speaker 4: to one, and I still think they're a better team

3843
02:36:37,720 --> 02:36:39,600
Speaker 4: and can come back from that and still win the series.

3844
02:36:39,640 --> 02:36:42,000
Speaker 4: So I actually think coming off of that victory in

3845
02:36:42,040 --> 02:36:44,280
Speaker 4: Boston the other night, Cleveland is riding someone in them

3846
02:36:44,280 --> 02:36:47,280
Speaker 4: coming back home with the crowd behind him. I think

3847
02:36:47,280 --> 02:36:49,720
Speaker 4: Cleveland wins this game, and Cleveland does go up to one,

3848
02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:52,080
Speaker 4: but I still think Boston ends up winning the series.

3849
02:36:52,160 --> 02:36:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm with you. First of all, I love Cleveland plus

3850
02:36:54,800 --> 02:36:57,440
Speaker 2: seven and a half. That's what Oh yeah, absolutely, that's

3851
02:36:57,480 --> 02:36:58,039
Speaker 2: what the line is.

3852
02:36:58,040 --> 02:36:59,880
Speaker 3: I would probably take him on the money line also,

3853
02:37:00,280 --> 02:37:02,160
Speaker 3: But I think Cleveland wins this game, goes up two

3854
02:37:02,200 --> 02:37:04,760
Speaker 3: to one, and then it gets a really hot undo

3855
02:37:04,800 --> 02:37:07,240
Speaker 3: the collar for the Boston Celtics. You know, the fans

3856
02:37:07,280 --> 02:37:11,280
Speaker 3: are gonna be screaming bloody murder if they fall down

3857
02:37:11,280 --> 02:37:13,879
Speaker 3: two games to one, especially being a number one seat.

3858
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:16,959
Speaker 3: So we'll see how that plays out. Sunday, three point

3859
02:37:16,959 --> 02:37:19,520
Speaker 3: thirty Eastern. The Knicks and the Pacers. You know, I'm

3860
02:37:19,520 --> 02:37:21,880
Speaker 3: going with my Knicks. I'm hoping they can pull this

3861
02:37:21,959 --> 02:37:24,800
Speaker 3: one out. We'll see how healthy Jalen Brunson.

3862
02:37:24,480 --> 02:37:26,840
Speaker 4: Is Yeah, and whether or not og Ananobi is back

3863
02:37:26,840 --> 02:37:28,520
Speaker 4: in the lineup, he's not gonna be back because we

3864
02:37:28,560 --> 02:37:30,320
Speaker 4: know for a fact that he's not playing. No, it's

3865
02:37:30,320 --> 02:37:32,840
Speaker 4: not a fact, but I mean it's more likely than

3866
02:37:32,879 --> 02:37:35,240
Speaker 4: not he's out. Woad said, is Yeah, it's more likely

3867
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:37,160
Speaker 4: that he's out for this game. Yeah, that's a big

3868
02:37:37,240 --> 02:37:39,840
Speaker 4: loss for them, and again places a huge, a huge

3869
02:37:39,879 --> 02:37:41,760
Speaker 4: burden on their starters to have to play a lot

3870
02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:44,959
Speaker 4: more minutes. But considering how well they played on Friday night,

3871
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:46,840
Speaker 4: I think the Knicks have a shot. I'm gonna pick

3872
02:37:46,840 --> 02:37:48,280
Speaker 4: the Knicks to go out to take that game and

3873
02:37:48,320 --> 02:37:50,600
Speaker 4: go up three to one. I am, I would love it.

3874
02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:52,080
Speaker 4: And then of course that gives them a little bit

3875
02:37:52,080 --> 02:37:54,200
Speaker 4: of breathing room. If the Knicks lose and it's two

3876
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:57,640
Speaker 4: to two and they've got some injuries, they still have

3877
02:37:57,680 --> 02:37:59,720
Speaker 4: two of the three back in Madison Square Garden though,

3878
02:38:00,160 --> 02:38:02,080
Speaker 4: But that's still tough sledding. You know, they're a team

3879
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:04,280
Speaker 4: that doesn't have a lot of quality depth to begin with.

3880
02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:07,320
Speaker 4: Against a team like Indiana that can score points, that's

3881
02:38:07,400 --> 02:38:09,039
Speaker 4: that's tough sled And I don't think it's not a

3882
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:10,520
Speaker 4: must win for New York to go up three to one,

3883
02:38:10,520 --> 02:38:12,720
Speaker 4: but it will behoove them greatly to get to get

3884
02:38:12,760 --> 02:38:15,520
Speaker 4: an extra cushion before going back home for Game five.

3885
02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:17,440
Speaker 3: I asked you had to must win. You told me

3886
02:38:17,480 --> 02:38:19,880
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves, and I do. There are two they're

3887
02:38:19,879 --> 02:38:21,760
Speaker 3: a two and a half point favorite, but they're up

3888
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:24,560
Speaker 3: two games to one. They're playing at home in game

3889
02:38:24,840 --> 02:38:27,800
Speaker 3: number four, and you think it's a must win situation

3890
02:38:27,840 --> 02:38:28,440
Speaker 3: though for Minnesota.

3891
02:38:28,520 --> 02:38:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, momentum is just so fickle. And when it comes

3892
02:38:31,120 --> 02:38:33,520
Speaker 4: to a veteran team like Denver that's been there before,

3893
02:38:33,879 --> 02:38:35,879
Speaker 4: you give them a sliver of confidence and they come

3894
02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:38,240
Speaker 4: back and get a victory, win two games in Minnesota's

3895
02:38:38,280 --> 02:38:41,120
Speaker 4: home floor, going back to Mile High after what happened

3896
02:38:41,160 --> 02:38:43,280
Speaker 4: to them. Wow, Yeah, you don't want to face that

3897
02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:45,800
Speaker 4: if you're the Timberwolves. The Timberwolves have to win this

3898
02:38:45,879 --> 02:38:48,240
Speaker 4: game on Sunday and to go back to Denver. I'm

3899
02:38:48,280 --> 02:38:50,680
Speaker 4: already giving Denver that victory back in Game five. Regardless

3900
02:38:50,680 --> 02:38:53,200
Speaker 4: of what the circumstance is. Minnesota needs to win the

3901
02:38:53,200 --> 02:38:55,680
Speaker 4: rest of their home games in this series, and it should.

3902
02:38:55,480 --> 02:38:57,640
Speaker 3: Be a great atmosphere though the fans should be able

3903
02:38:57,640 --> 02:38:59,640
Speaker 3: to carry them. I can't believe they would come out

3904
02:38:59,680 --> 02:39:03,039
Speaker 3: flat with the lack of playoff.

3905
02:39:02,600 --> 02:39:04,040
Speaker 2: Games that they've had up there in Minnesota.

3906
02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:06,840
Speaker 4: I mean, they did it on Friday, but now they

3907
02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:08,960
Speaker 4: have to even have extra more fire under them because

3908
02:39:09,200 --> 02:39:12,040
Speaker 4: you already know exactly how Denver plays and how they

3909
02:39:12,080 --> 02:39:13,880
Speaker 4: gave it to you on your home floor on Friday night.

3910
02:39:13,959 --> 02:39:16,640
Speaker 4: So they've already seen it, they've already experienced it. You

3911
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:18,800
Speaker 4: can't come out flat again. I can't believe they did

3912
02:39:18,840 --> 02:39:21,760
Speaker 4: it to begin with. Now there's no excuse for it.

3913
02:39:21,800 --> 02:39:23,200
Speaker 2: Is that the best series out of the four?

3914
02:39:23,280 --> 02:39:26,080
Speaker 4: Is it? Thenk the Knicks of the Pacers. No, I

3915
02:39:26,120 --> 02:39:29,200
Speaker 4: think that best series is Minnesota and Denver. There's a

3916
02:39:29,240 --> 02:39:31,400
Speaker 4: star power attached to it as well. I think there's

3917
02:39:31,400 --> 02:39:33,400
Speaker 4: intriguing matchups across the board with the front line of

3918
02:39:33,480 --> 02:39:36,200
Speaker 4: Denver versus the front line of Minnesota. Anthony Edwards is

3919
02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:38,320
Speaker 4: one of the rising stars in the league. So I

3920
02:39:38,480 --> 02:39:41,720
Speaker 4: even just even stylistically speaking and from a star power standpoint,

3921
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:44,800
Speaker 4: I think Minnesota Denver is the biggest series or the

3922
02:39:44,840 --> 02:39:45,920
Speaker 4: most entertaining series.

3923
02:39:46,120 --> 02:39:49,160
Speaker 3: Well, I'm getting it to the NBA Playoffs. I'm hoping

3924
02:39:49,200 --> 02:39:51,440
Speaker 3: the Knicks somehow pull it out again.

3925
02:39:51,520 --> 02:39:55,400
Speaker 2: Thanks to all the crew out there, Ian, Mark k Fike,

3926
02:39:55,480 --> 02:39:58,440
Speaker 2: thanks to Gergano and Fitz. Coming up next, it's going

3927
02:39:58,520 --> 02:40:00,680
Speaker 2: to be Brian no, Rich hon Berger and Jared Smith.

3928
02:40:00,720 --> 02:40:02,959
Speaker 2: You want to stick around for them. Love listening to

3929
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:06,039
Speaker 2: their show about the whole gambling aspects. They'll go over all.

3930
02:40:05,959 --> 02:40:09,000
Speaker 3: The NBA games, who they like against the spread, and

3931
02:40:09,360 --> 02:40:11,400
Speaker 3: obviously take a look at some of the prop bets

3932
02:40:11,440 --> 02:40:11,920
Speaker 3: out there.

3933
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:13,800
Speaker 2: Once again, I'm doing double duty.

3934
02:40:13,840 --> 02:40:16,560
Speaker 3: You listen to me tonight in for Aaron Torres, I'm

3935
02:40:16,560 --> 02:40:18,440
Speaker 3: going on with Jason Martin eight P.

3936
02:40:18,600 --> 02:40:21,200
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