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Speaker 3: I'm here welcoming today the one and only by Hi
Speaker 3: the Man. Yes, we got him here, David.
Speaker 1: Big say something before we start off. Man, I'm proud.
Speaker 1: I am all y'all.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I watched all y'all evolved. Bro, you're looking good man,
Speaker 2: and I've just been watching how your perspective, man in
Speaker 2: your mind has been evolving over time.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: Like for you to do that, and for you to
Speaker 2: do that in front of people, those people that come
Speaker 2: from the background that we come from, Bro, they not
Speaker 2: comfortable with that, and that's real manhood.
Speaker 1: And I'm proud of y'all. I appreciate man. Like I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the studio, I'm watching you know, you know
Speaker 1: in a different do I have miss and you know, Bro,
Speaker 1: we me and you.
Speaker 2: Have like talks to our talks, our talks every time
Speaker 2: we get an opportunity to about family. It's crazy because
Speaker 2: this is this thing where viral about.
Speaker 1: Me wanting to be married and children? Bro have I
Speaker 1: always not wanted for sure?
Speaker 2: And and the crazy thing I put a song out
Speaker 2: on the guidebox that said.
Speaker 1: Marry me.
Speaker 2: I always wanted that, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 2: bro for you know, to watch you all evolution and
Speaker 2: I just want you to know what what took me
Speaker 2: so long to come on the show was that I
Speaker 2: realized that artists have started selling out in a different
Speaker 2: way that people.
Speaker 1: We don't know, right, people.
Speaker 2: Think selling out and selling out to the man or
Speaker 2: you know that has something to do with money, but
Speaker 2: they have reduced artists. People your music is free now.
Speaker 2: They don't even think music is worth it, no matter
Speaker 2: how much money you spend on music, how dope it is.
Speaker 1: They want to know who you having sex with.
Speaker 2: They want to know who your mama is, where you
Speaker 2: are at all times, and and we're giving it up
Speaker 2: on different platforms and not even know it, like everywhere
Speaker 2: that you go, everything that you're doing as a black
Speaker 2: man in America.
Speaker 1: I refuse to do that. So it's like, think about it, man,
Speaker 1: think about this, y'all really think about this. You can't
Speaker 1: name too many things.
Speaker 2: That's connected with hip hop, that has something positive to.
Speaker 1: Say about hip hop, think about it.
Speaker 2: Rappers don't like rappers, hip hop blogs don't like rappers,
Speaker 2: Like don't know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Most people in the world don't like rappers no more.
Speaker 1: It's like it has turned in on itself and our
Speaker 1: people have allowed that.
Speaker 2: So for you all to stay who you are, man
Speaker 2: and to be successful, to have big TVs wheat time.
Speaker 1: Let me want you all to know I'm proud of y'all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So look, I want to start this off right
Speaker 5: because even though like your household name and a worldwide
Speaker 5: figure and your philanthropy like eminently precede you, there may
Speaker 5: be some people out there that aren't.
Speaker 1: Familiar with your background and where you come from.
Speaker 5: So I want you to just talk about how it
Speaker 5: was like growing up in Jackson as a black boy,
Speaker 5: black man, because I know a lot of people have
Speaker 5: seen like different movies like Mississippi Burnings and you know,
Speaker 5: the likes of that sort, but they don't really know
Speaker 5: what it was actually like to be down there and
Speaker 5: experience that in real time.
Speaker 2: Being in Mississippi was probably the most beautiful thing that
Speaker 2: could have happened to me.
Speaker 1: In my life.
Speaker 2: One thing that I tell people all the time, My
Speaker 2: favorite type of white person on this planet is a
Speaker 2: white person from Mississippi. All I ever wanted from anybody, black, white,
Speaker 2: alien is the truth.
Speaker 1: Can I say, fuck? Of course is the truth.
Speaker 2: And so like in Mississippi, if a white boy don't
Speaker 2: like you, he'll try to kill you. If the white
Speaker 2: boy like you, he'll die for you. So at least
Speaker 2: you know where you're staying.
Speaker 1: Like, if a white boy in the hood in Mississippi,
Speaker 1: you know he staying though it ain't no question, and
Speaker 1: there's certain lines that you don't go across.
Speaker 2: And I would rather that then you sit next to
Speaker 2: a white boy for forty years and then they soaking
Speaker 2: your pinsion up and then you were retired and you
Speaker 2: don't have no money and he's just smiling in your
Speaker 2: face for forty years. So like, Mississippi was the most
Speaker 2: beautiful thing in the world because it gave me this
Speaker 2: harsh truth that some people, especially some white people, didn't
Speaker 2: see until Trump, you know what I'm saying. Like I remember,
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember being on CNN and this white
Speaker 2: lady was talking and she was like, yeah, it's been
Speaker 2: a bad couple of months, and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: it's been about five hundred for blood folks, about five
Speaker 2: hundred years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a five hundred done for us. And
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, that's about it that way, you know.
Speaker 2: So for me, Mississippi was beautiful. Mississippi taught me about
Speaker 2: all the things that people front on.
Speaker 1: About the South.
Speaker 2: People talk all of that stuff, but they want more land,
Speaker 2: they want healthy food. Look at how they're playing with
Speaker 2: our food. You feel what I'm saying. Now, people want
Speaker 2: to be in Mississippi. They want to be in South Carolina.
Speaker 2: They want to move to Tosa, Oklahoma. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. They want to move like like they give
Speaker 2: us these wrong pictures about Africa, but that's what every
Speaker 2: continent on this planet is trying to move in and
Speaker 2: trying to co op all of the places where our
Speaker 2: people are indigenous, where the most sun is and the
Speaker 2: most land, the healthiest people to find women.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what say like the woman?
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, And so it's like Mississippi and fair
Speaker 2: Cohn told me it's like Mississippi is you even look
Speaker 2: at the Mississippi River running, it's like now river in
Speaker 2: Africa like that's the closest thing that you can get
Speaker 2: to the motherland. And so you know that's going to
Speaker 2: be the place that's going to be the that's going
Speaker 2: to be co opted the most. You know, That's why
Speaker 2: I look at, you know, Mississippi and South Carolina as
Speaker 2: those places. And if you think about if you think
Speaker 2: about the Civil War, if the other folks would have
Speaker 2: won the Civil War, Mississippi would have probably been you know,
Speaker 2: Jackson probably would have been in l a And you
Speaker 2: know New York or what the East coast would have
Speaker 2: been considered as would have been in South Carolina. And
Speaker 2: if you look at the two main slave ports.
Speaker 1: That's what I was just getting ready to say. So
Speaker 1: and from an ancestral standpoint, yeah right.
Speaker 2: And so you know, for me, unless your parents came
Speaker 2: from the islands, you got to give it up to that.
Speaker 1: Yes, you got to give it up to that.
Speaker 2: And I'm so proud that God gave me an opportunity,
Speaker 2: especially being someone who cares about black people the way
Speaker 2: that I care about them. And I'll tell you all this,
Speaker 2: I had to realize something and it's almost to the
Speaker 2: contrary what we talked about before, but I think it's
Speaker 2: important for me to say, if our people knew how
Speaker 2: to treat us, and I'm speaking about Big Facts and
Speaker 2: David Banner, right, if they knew how to treat us,
Speaker 2: then nine times out of ten, they would know how
Speaker 2: to treat themselves.
Speaker 1: And if they knew how to treat themselves, and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't need us.
Speaker 2: So a lot of times we get upset because our
Speaker 2: people don't understand.
Speaker 1: But that's why we were sit and that is part
Speaker 1: of our job.
Speaker 2: But not to the point where we put our lives
Speaker 2: in our legacy and detriment.
Speaker 1: I learned that from you, sir.
Speaker 3: Yes, I gotta they gotta start with us. We we
Speaker 3: love our people, We love the people, but you gotta
Speaker 3: take care of yourself when you want to be here.
Speaker 2: You play Jesus and wonder why you always end up
Speaker 2: on the cross. It ain't your job to say the world.
Speaker 1: You're just supposed to get a message.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this point, at this point, at this point, man,
Speaker 3: you know what, we like to pop it on Big
Speaker 3: Facts too. So before we get there, man, let them know,
Speaker 3: like obviously you had massive amounts of hit records, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like hit records from a production standpoint,
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, massive, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 3: you you've been on the big screen killing it. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, A war worthy you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But but but you know, for everything that
Speaker 3: all of us have accomplished here, Like it's like when
Speaker 3: you wake up now, like what drives you?
Speaker 1: Like, what's your sense of purpose? What's the next thing?
Speaker 1: Like what motivates you? Now? Children? Bro? I want I
Speaker 1: want to family.
Speaker 2: I really believe that the reason why we're put on
Speaker 2: this earth is to replenish God's.
Speaker 1: Just replenish God.
Speaker 2: And I think if we wanted to see God face,
Speaker 2: it would be all of our faces together.
Speaker 1: And I believe it.
Speaker 2: I fail if I don't allow my DNA to continue.
Speaker 2: Like how Mam, I ever come back? The way that
Speaker 2: we really come back is through I see through our children.
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And I had to saying, Bro, I've chased my dream
Speaker 2: so long and so hard that when I finally.
Speaker 1: Raised my head, I realized that ran off and left
Speaker 1: everything else.
Speaker 2: Because think about it, if you got one hundred percent right,
Speaker 2: that's all you got is one hundred percent, and you
Speaker 2: get ninety percent to your hustle you're gonna be a
Speaker 2: shitty father, You're gonna be shitty frying, You're.
Speaker 1: Gonna be a shitty everything else. Bro. That's why most
Speaker 1: of the people that we say that we like, you know, in.
Speaker 2: Basketball players and rappers and all that kind of shit,
Speaker 2: they assholes because.
Speaker 1: Most basketball players don't know how.
Speaker 2: To fight because they was always shooting a fucking jump
Speaker 2: shot unless they, you know, was down they getting rebounds,
Speaker 2: something that.
Speaker 1: Most of the time they don't know how to be.
Speaker 2: Most of the time, they don't know how to be
Speaker 2: good fathers and good friends because they were always on
Speaker 2: the basketball court. I was always under the drumm machine.
Speaker 2: I was always hustling. Nobody ever noticed this. Think about
Speaker 2: my twenty year run, Bro.
Speaker 1: I was producing at a very high level. Think about it.
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Marooom five, Lil Wayne. People don't even talk
Speaker 2: about that shit when you put.
Speaker 1: Your actual name David David David Banner before.
Speaker 2: A beat, think about that shit, right, production my own
Speaker 2: albums at the level that I was putting out the
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's still the highest paying deal
Speaker 2: that wasn't a label deal came to David Banner.
Speaker 1: So you got to think about Nia's David.
Speaker 2: Banner right, then politics, then acting speaking.
Speaker 1: I never fucking took a break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't take a break until I literally had
Speaker 2: a physical breakdown. And what's crazy about that? People stead
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 2: So what I realized, man, is that you can't make
Speaker 2: anything your God but God. And I ran so fucking
Speaker 2: her that I looked up bro and hadn't talked to
Speaker 2: my friends, and I realized that I had to go
Speaker 2: apologize to my friends because I used my fame as
Speaker 2: an excuse for them to be there when I had time.
Speaker 1: And that's fucked up. Yeah, you know, And because.
Speaker 2: These successful people will play that game with you and
Speaker 2: smile in front of you, but that shit don't feel good.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a sustainable relationship, couldn't. I was always
Speaker 2: in the studio or on set. And we got to think,
Speaker 2: when you shoot movies, you.
Speaker 1: Live in you know, maybe in Arizona for.
Speaker 6: Two months, when I'm in New York for two months,
Speaker 6: in New Zealand's for two or three months, depending on
Speaker 6: how big the production she needs, right right, and then.
Speaker 1: Still trying to learn that shit at the same time,
Speaker 1: because we don't we don't. We don't understand the business
Speaker 1: of the game. So having to learn the business by
Speaker 1: a million.
Speaker 2: Dollar mistakes and you know, bro, I was homeless, I
Speaker 2: was sleeping in my van when I got my did
Speaker 2: so having to learn that shit at the same time,
Speaker 2: you got to watch that accountant and accounting when it
Speaker 2: is with the lawyer, and the lawyer is playing with
Speaker 2: management and they all running you in circles. And now
Speaker 2: we don't have sustainable we don't have sustainable so called fame.
Speaker 2: So it ain't like you're gonna get another opportunity at
Speaker 2: that level to make that mistake the same way, so
Speaker 2: you can even take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so it's not it's one thing you
Speaker 3: just said you were saying about just like playing the
Speaker 3: scene and everything. It kind of I'll be having my
Speaker 3: mixed opinions about the whole lebron thing and his son,
Speaker 3: like let your son kind of do his own thing.
Speaker 3: But do you do you think that that's how we
Speaker 3: should do it, maybe more as black people that just
Speaker 3: put our seeds straight in position nevative nevotism as they
Speaker 3: call it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hell yeah, hell yeah, because every other race
Speaker 2: of people do it well.
Speaker 1: It's so funny how they keep it.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, that's how they keep it right,
Speaker 2: that's how they keep it back, pass it down.
Speaker 1: You trained for this, This is what I do. Is
Speaker 1: that handicapping them? I guess that that was my mindset
Speaker 1: at first. You have to do what's in our jeans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think like me personally, not not a cunt.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily look at it as a handicap, but
Speaker 5: I do see where it could be viewed as.
Speaker 1: What's the word I'm looking for, Like I.
Speaker 5: Don't want to say, not giving them a chance to
Speaker 5: choose their own destiny, but it's kind of like like
Speaker 5: not allowing them to be free.
Speaker 2: Part part of black people's problem is we give ignorant
Speaker 2: people too many choices. Yep, Like you know, they don't
Speaker 2: fucking know nothing. You don't know what you do is
Speaker 2: because what ends up having think about all of us.
Speaker 1: My dad, my.
Speaker 2: Dad was he was the meanest motherfucker on this planet.
Speaker 1: Ninety eight percent of the stuff my dad told me
Speaker 1: it was true, Thank you. He just didn't understand how
Speaker 1: so much shit but everything I said.
Speaker 2: People ask me all the time, if you could talk
Speaker 2: to your dad, what would you tell him?
Speaker 1: And I would either tell him you right or I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Fuck like all of that knowledge, all of that information,
Speaker 2: we usually don't start listening until we about their age,
Speaker 2: and then we pissed it all the way all that. See,
Speaker 2: that's what America tries to get us to do. If
Speaker 2: that's the case, then the president would be younger. See
Speaker 2: America lets us do certain things so that we can
Speaker 2: stay in these boxes.
Speaker 1: But they don't do that. In the army, they don't
Speaker 1: do that. And the things that mean the.
Speaker 2: Most to them, We'll Smith said it the best. He
Speaker 2: said that it is my job, he said. He said,
Speaker 2: it's my job to He said, I am the boat.
Speaker 2: My child is the arrow. It is my job to
Speaker 2: point my child in the right direction. Now, as my
Speaker 2: child gets older, they have the power to wield the wind,
Speaker 2: and the wind can take them where they want to go.
Speaker 2: But I even think about my dad in music. It's
Speaker 2: like my dad didn't my dad said, boy, you should
Speaker 2: be a banker. But I was reading on in the
Speaker 2: third grade. I was reading on a junior level, I
Speaker 2: mean a junior college level. When I was in kindergarten,
Speaker 2: I could count to a million, like easy. And so
Speaker 2: my dad was like, you're smart, you should be a banker.
Speaker 2: But he didn't understand.
Speaker 1: Until I brought a seventy thousand dollars check home.
Speaker 2: From from an independent distributor, and until my mama told him,
Speaker 2: like that boy, make ten dollars a CD.
Speaker 1: He get a CDs for a dollar. He staid on it.
Speaker 1: He made said I was selling at the time, like
Speaker 1: seven in the eight to nine see these an hour?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom she did the numbers for my dad
Speaker 2: and showed my dad he made more money than you.
Speaker 2: He was like careal.
Speaker 1: And so when I.
Speaker 2: Brought that seventy thousand dollars check home, that's what my
Speaker 2: dad told me. My dad literally said this, what the
Speaker 2: fuck are you doing? Why are you standing there? I
Speaker 2: was like, what do you mean? He was like, you
Speaker 2: make this much money rapping? Why fuck you ain't wrapping?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Dad?
Speaker 1: Serious? And that's the same video day he told me.
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't even know if I shouldn't
Speaker 1: do this music shit no more, it don't make sense monetary.
Speaker 2: I can sit in my house doing something all right, love,
Speaker 2: and people.
Speaker 1: Just want to watch me do it. You'd be a
Speaker 1: fool if you fucking didn't. So.
Speaker 2: So, so to answer your question directly, if we have
Speaker 2: the opportunity to put out children, think about this. If
Speaker 2: we if we start here right, and we make it here,
Speaker 2: but we get an opportunity to put our children or
Speaker 2: at least allow them to start here, why would they
Speaker 2: want to do something else when they already are right
Speaker 2: here right. The problem is, and I actually researched this,
Speaker 2: I did research on this. The problem is is that
Speaker 2: we take the pain from our children. The pain is
Speaker 2: what made all of us who we are, every one
Speaker 2: of us. You don't take the pain away from the children,
Speaker 2: you take danger from them. And that's difference. Like I
Speaker 2: was just watching this Kenny and Kenny Smith was talking
Speaker 2: about one of the biggest families that's in plumbing.
Speaker 1: Before any of.
Speaker 2: The children can get any of the higher level money,
Speaker 2: they got to be a plumber first, and the father
Speaker 2: told them, you need to know every aspect of plumbing
Speaker 2: so that if anything happened then you know how to
Speaker 2: do it. If if the perumpan go out in our bathroom, right.
Speaker 1: Now, you know how to at least do that.
Speaker 2: So what you do is you don't take the pain
Speaker 2: they gotta go through the ship and if they're too
Speaker 2: lazy to go through the pain, then fuck their little ass.
Speaker 2: They deserve it something it ain't for them. I told
Speaker 2: you knew me. Even if it's my child. If you
Speaker 2: a lazy fuck, you deserve Your sister gonna get it then,
Speaker 2: or some other kid got deserved. We'll just put something
Speaker 2: in the contract that said that some of the money
Speaker 2: gotta revert back to your children and hopefully they won't
Speaker 2: be lazy fucks. Is that a little you don't take
Speaker 2: the pain out there?
Speaker 7: What they said in the Bible, spared the rod quickly Virginia, yep,
Speaker 7: spared a rock quick quicken the child to the grave,
Speaker 7: or spared the rod in what spoiled the child?
Speaker 1: Yep, you gotta put that rod on.
Speaker 2: Then that's round upon the day when you when you're
Speaker 2: just saying, like even even Tho I said, like your kid,
Speaker 2: it's a number you'll he can call and say you
Speaker 2: you mentionally abusing.
Speaker 1: Them like pole, come pick your ass up and you
Speaker 1: get your little ass in them. They have the nightmarees
Speaker 1: about that, like the kid. Differently today, man.
Speaker 2: The kids are different because we allow other people to
Speaker 2: raise at you see, she think about this.
Speaker 1: We are we are some we are we are.
Speaker 2: Some few people on this planet who allow the same people.
Speaker 2: I say this, and I say this about religion, I
Speaker 2: say this about business.
Speaker 1: They didn't want you on earth. Why would they give
Speaker 1: you the key to heaven?
Speaker 2: The number the thing that makes a powerful America is family.
Speaker 2: So while why would they let you build a good family.
Speaker 2: They get everything in slavery to keep you away from
Speaker 2: a family. That is the main thing that they did.
Speaker 2: So why would they let you really raise your kids?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, so if you if you, if your kid depends
Speaker 2: more on the system than they do on you, And
Speaker 2: who controls your children?
Speaker 1: The system?
Speaker 2: This ship not hard what the system is though? Oh
Speaker 2: come on, man, America, I'm saying what you feel like,
Speaker 2: what you feel like?
Speaker 1: The system stand though, white supremacy.
Speaker 2: It's easy in which way and just making sure that
Speaker 2: white people stay in the position of power and able
Speaker 2: to control resources, things and people.
Speaker 1: So do you think they deliberately tear down how for
Speaker 1: black men?
Speaker 2: Of course they always said that's see, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't talk about things I think about.
Speaker 1: Just gonna look up Corantelle prone what is it pro
Speaker 1: like the government did it? You can go right now
Speaker 1: and look at files and the government will send it
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: Patrice the Momboos family sent me a whole government file
Speaker 2: that was released by the American government talking about all
Speaker 2: the things that they did to Patrice the mover. It's
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why they don't want us
Speaker 2: to read certain books.
Speaker 1: They don't want.
Speaker 2: Us like, how are you going to tell us? I
Speaker 2: never understand, and you're tricking me into it.
Speaker 1: Again, y'all.
Speaker 4: I told him, come on here. No, but but he
Speaker 4: said that's important to him, which is important.
Speaker 2: But no, it's government found look at what they did
Speaker 2: to Malcolm and Martin. It's one of the things that
Speaker 2: we have to start learning. And it's the same thing
Speaker 2: with cops killing black kids. Until we convince our people
Speaker 2: that it's a systemic problem.
Speaker 1: We take everything by case.
Speaker 2: Oh this is the case. This is just a case. No,
Speaker 2: this ship is happening together, this is fier.
Speaker 1: Well, right, But what.
Speaker 2: I'll tell y'all is this, man, I am at a
Speaker 2: point in my life where I don't even think about
Speaker 2: white people. I don't I don't think about nothing but us.
Speaker 2: We spend so much time focused on other people that
Speaker 2: all we got to do.
Speaker 1: Just think about this. I say this all the time.
Speaker 2: If everybody right now that tuned in the Big Facts
Speaker 2: went to David Batta dot com right now and about anything,
Speaker 2: I got something from one dollar to two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2: If everybody how many followers, y'all get about approximately.
Speaker 3: A couple hundred thousand social med But collectively, damn there
Speaker 3: a million collective.
Speaker 2: So if everybody paid one dollar, I can make a
Speaker 2: movie with a million dollars. If everybody about the guidbox,
Speaker 2: that's two hundred and fifty, that's two hundred fifty dollars
Speaker 2: to get how much money that is collective? Really a
Speaker 2: collective movement of people who are just not free loading.
Speaker 2: Most people just want our information, and we got to
Speaker 2: go to sponsors in order to get our money. But
Speaker 2: you getting it directly from us. How damn people want
Speaker 2: music and you give all of your money to Spotify.
Speaker 1: I spent one point five million dollars.
Speaker 2: On positive rap music. Tell nobody give a fuck about
Speaker 2: that shit. They get ay money that they get, they
Speaker 2: money to Apple, and think about it, we give them
Speaker 2: to tech companies. I wouldn't even be as emotional if
Speaker 2: we would give it to music companies.
Speaker 1: Most of these.
Speaker 2: Companies, music is the last thing that they care about.
Speaker 2: Go on Apple page, that's the less and that's the
Speaker 2: thing black folks care about the most. And if you're
Speaker 2: gonna give your money to people who don't give the
Speaker 2: fuck you say, music is the thing that they care
Speaker 2: about the least, think about it. They sell computers, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, But y'all running the money over the Apple
Speaker 2: right now, don't even give a fuck about it. We
Speaker 2: give all of our money and music me in the
Speaker 2: world are black folks. Yeah, and we spend freviously, That's
Speaker 2: what I told y'all before. We give our constituency to
Speaker 2: people who treat us more like elite white men.
Speaker 3: What you think about artists selling their catalogs then, like
Speaker 3: selling like cashing up?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really care, Like to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I don't care about what no other person does.
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's so cagy. Like if a person want.
Speaker 2: To sell, they they they catalog they want to sell,
Speaker 2: they whatever they want to sell.
Speaker 1: That ain't my bis. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's hard to say with you and do it to
Speaker 2: your person presented me and the difference between me.
Speaker 1: That's sort of like how I told people.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm the biggest proponent for independence, right, but
Speaker 2: in my particular case, signing the deal wasn't nothing better
Speaker 2: than that for me because I had a bigger play.
Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to be a movie star. I
Speaker 2: knew that if I with the fame that I could
Speaker 2: get the money. Money ain't never been no problem to me,
Speaker 2: like money like leaves on trees. That's why I dressed
Speaker 2: the way that I do. That's why I act the
Speaker 2: way that I do. I can be free because I
Speaker 2: know how to go and get money. I would always
Speaker 2: like to do some of the things that I have
Speaker 2: to do in order to get money. But the truth is,
Speaker 2: I know what people want from me.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I knew that folks would go like Missouri sl do
Speaker 2: that without feeling like my soul was being split because
Speaker 2: I'm active, But like, that's where the fucks come from, right,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And and some of that stuff wasn't on that page.
Speaker 2: That my.
Speaker 1: Cousins.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That's what we come from.
Speaker 2: And we got to stop letting other people like Moll
Speaker 2: that like Brock, It's so funny, man, how the ship
Speaker 2: that we do the best.
Speaker 1: People won't even just let us do that, Like, leave
Speaker 1: me the funk alone.
Speaker 2: You can't tell me nothing about that I made like
Speaker 2: a feel be clear, you feel me.
Speaker 1: It's not always and Tasha Smith taught me this.
Speaker 2: It's my responsibility, y'all because those our uncles, our cousins,
Speaker 2: our aunts, and I watch how we tear each other down.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy, bro, Like all of us got friends,
Speaker 2: cousins or ourselves that we didn't hustle. We got cousins
Speaker 2: that it whooped on, our aunts aunts that are cheated
Speaker 2: on our uncles, right, and we have accepted them for
Speaker 2: who they are, But we can't accept our people for
Speaker 2: who they are and show some fucking humanity. It's almost like, bro,
Speaker 2: if you look at a lot of those pictures when
Speaker 2: black folks was getting home, you had black folks on
Speaker 2: the side looking at that ship the same way white folk.
Speaker 2: That was it. That was the entertainment, picking it, picking
Speaker 2: nick hold on man, that's what they need.
Speaker 1: That's what they think. That was entertainments. And most slave hands,
Speaker 1: what color did the people have on it? Think about it?
Speaker 1: They had all white?
Speaker 2: They want to know why they just fucking got out
Speaker 2: of urch that's what they get out the church. And
Speaker 2: then the thing I went to a I went to
Speaker 2: a hanging expos bro. Where they it was It was
Speaker 2: a museum exhibit.
Speaker 1: Bro. Do you know a lot of those pictures?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: Guess what they were?
Speaker 2: Fucking postcards from the United States Post Office.
Speaker 1: Dog, we have always been there, fucking entertainment.
Speaker 2: That's why they don't want us to have But how
Speaker 2: the fuck you don't tell us not to read a
Speaker 2: book about something you did to us. I can understand
Speaker 2: if it was something we did you what you fucked
Speaker 2: me my family, family? You don't want me to read
Speaker 2: a book. The list of history books that they try
Speaker 2: to get out of schools, Oh yeah, bro, Oh it's bad.
Speaker 2: And we're worried about beef on the internet, though it's
Speaker 2: still gonna be on the internet, of Yeah, but.
Speaker 5: You know, like in schools, it's it's a part of well,
Speaker 5: previously it's been a part of the total curriculum of.
Speaker 1: The history of the United States.
Speaker 5: But what they're trying to do is basically whitewash that
Speaker 5: particular section of the history so that it doesn't it's
Speaker 5: not taught as curriculums, so that people younger than whatever
Speaker 5: age that has already graduated and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Aren't aware of the ship that we've been through previously. Cool,
Speaker 1: they're trying to what we don't understand.
Speaker 2: Niggas were created, We did not come off those boats,
Speaker 2: so we as indigenous people were not niggas. Niggas were
Speaker 2: experiment that white people would have never thought that would
Speaker 2: have worked.
Speaker 1: So good missions is just like crackers, bro. It ain't
Speaker 1: nothing but ignorant motherfuckers, bro.
Speaker 2: And in our cases, it's not ignorance because we chose
Speaker 2: to it's ignorance because it was kept away from us.
Speaker 1: You would hang from a tree if you knew how
Speaker 1: to read.
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, because knowledge is knowledge and
Speaker 2: knowledge is true freedom.
Speaker 1: If we knew how to escape, we would have a
Speaker 1: lot of times we didn't escape is we didn't know
Speaker 1: the grounds if we knew how. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: about all of the shit music contracts. I love it.
Speaker 1: You are a slave to what the fuck you don't know.
Speaker 1: So if you don't know.
Speaker 2: That the reason why black people act that way got
Speaker 2: a lot to do with other people and not you,
Speaker 2: then maybe you wouldn't act like that if you knew
Speaker 2: that medicine, and and and and and and mathematics was
Speaker 2: created by black folks. You wouldn't think that ship was hard.
Speaker 2: You created mathematics, So how fuck is it hard?
Speaker 1: You built pyramids? How the fuck is it hard?
Speaker 2: Mact you know them big old facts said, hey, so
Speaker 2: let me ask you something. And I heard you quoting
Speaker 2: out the babble? So how accurate do you think the
Speaker 2: Bible is if it came from them too?
Speaker 1: Man, I'm not gonna get off of the black folks
Speaker 1: in the Bible. Use sir. I'm learning.
Speaker 2: Something.
Speaker 8: Nikes living alone, don't talk about to figure it out.
Speaker 8: I'm going to tell you this, thoff, Go ahead, I
Speaker 8: would tell you.
Speaker 2: How Why would you trust a man that didn't love
Speaker 2: you on earth to giving you kit to heaven? Why
Speaker 2: would you trust the youngest race on this planet about God?
Speaker 2: We were the one that talked them about monothis just
Speaker 2: in the like why would we If you are going
Speaker 2: to say that you something, then if you care about God.
Speaker 2: God is supposed to be the thing that matters the most,
Speaker 2: then why don't you go and read the original script
Speaker 2: and not how they translate. White people have never touched
Speaker 2: anything on this planet and not corrupted, and they will
Speaker 2: tell you that history shows you that their history shows
Speaker 2: you anyway they touched you, they have totally decimated the
Speaker 2: culture of those people. So you come from God, directly
Speaker 2: from God, if even even from a biblical standpoint.
Speaker 1: When they were.
Speaker 2: Looking for Jesus, they went to find Jesus in the
Speaker 2: middle of a bunch of black folks. So Jesus looked
Speaker 2: like you. So why would you go to a white
Speaker 2: person to find out something that you are. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that Christianity is not the way. That's not my place.
Speaker 2: But what I will say is that God is omnipotent.
Speaker 2: God is everything. How dare you let somebody who have
Speaker 2: taken everything from you give you the.
Speaker 1: Key to God? And I will say this. I love
Speaker 1: what Jimmy tells.
Speaker 2: You to as think about this. You think about this.
Speaker 2: Black people in this earth. Indigenous people ran this earth.
Speaker 2: Whatever you want to say, we are mores. We argue
Speaker 2: over the things that don't matter. H like whatever we
Speaker 2: are asking, whatever you say we are, we ran this
Speaker 2: whole earth as soon as we came in contact with
Speaker 2: whatever that they say.
Speaker 1: That we believe in. Yea, Historically we did this. Yes,
Speaker 1: So I think that Jesus pain to direct you.
Speaker 2: So if you stay in a constant feeling of pain,
Speaker 2: and let's start telling you to move in a different
Speaker 2: fucking direction. But I don't blame people tell you will
Speaker 2: go to hell forever. God made you a sentient thinking being,
Speaker 2: so God wants you to challenge him or her or it,
Speaker 2: or he'll be like a fucking dog.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be no need. You'll just be programmed like a computer.
Speaker 1: But like it ain't right and it don't feel right.
Speaker 1: I'll show y'all this and then I'm gonna move on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I got a question I need to ask you.
Speaker 1: Watch it?
Speaker 2: Follow up to that when kids when little of the kids,
Speaker 2: I believe that the closest thing to God children, you know,
Speaker 2: And I'm just asking the question. I'm I'm David Better's
Speaker 2: not answer this. I've just asked what do children do
Speaker 2: when they go to children?
Speaker 1: Right? And what else man closer to done? So why
Speaker 1: wouldn't that pay attention? Well? Then whatever, I'm not saying nothing.
Speaker 1: I said, what's the question? Follow up another question? A
Speaker 1: fight out on peacock to then yes, yeah, make sure
Speaker 1: y'all go get that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, like when you think we come from
Speaker 2: originally like just people, humanity, where do you think humanity
Speaker 2: go for us?
Speaker 1: So this is what I think, This is my opinion.
Speaker 2: I think that we all came from one place that's
Speaker 2: closest to the sun.
Speaker 9: And as we wandered away from that place, the further
Speaker 9: we went towards cold areas.
Speaker 1: Think about it, we evolved.
Speaker 2: God made us to eva, so that's when we started mutaking,
Speaker 2: you know. And the further that we got away from
Speaker 2: that place, depending on how far it was away from
Speaker 2: the sun.
Speaker 1: That's how our body adjusted to survive.
Speaker 2: So I really think that we are the original people.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying then something else didn't happen.
Speaker 1: You know. I read up and study on an a
Speaker 1: Naki and different stuff like that, but I have different perspectives.
Speaker 1: But just if we're keeping it here and not bringing
Speaker 1: in any other thing.
Speaker 2: Just the further that we got away from whatever we
Speaker 2: consider the motherland is the further we got away from
Speaker 2: the sun.
Speaker 1: Further we got away from good land, good things, good people.
Speaker 2: The more harsh the environment became, the more harsh we
Speaker 2: became as a people.
Speaker 1: Think about it.
Speaker 2: The people that like, if you study people, you take
Speaker 2: away the emotions. Most of these people who are the
Speaker 2: most treacherous.
Speaker 1: They live in the cold, so they ain't got.
Speaker 2: Time to play with you if they don't, if they
Speaker 2: don't plant at a certain times.
Speaker 3: Serious even right here in America, the coldest places, it's
Speaker 3: cold for real.
Speaker 2: They gotta get it most like like like like fight
Speaker 2: Nick Grandmama for some money.
Speaker 1: Sell it. Just need to hear that.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is is that you know, we
Speaker 2: we evolved and to a certain degree, I guess we
Speaker 2: were sessed in certain ways. So that that's just my my, my,
Speaker 2: my personal opinion. I'm a studyer. I continue I continue
Speaker 2: to study. But what what I do want to say
Speaker 2: is that we just got to find a way to
Speaker 2: get back together. I don't think there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: cool by y'all moment. I think you got too many
Speaker 2: types of black people. I actually want to write a
Speaker 2: book about it. If you really look look at we
Speaker 2: get emotional. But this is America is a lot closer
Speaker 2: to the plantation than you think it is. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of house niggas. I didn't know it was such
Speaker 2: a thing as a yard niggas that was right between.
Speaker 5: You know, look at't quite made into the house.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit better than the field. And you
Speaker 1: look at you look at the music business. Niggas are
Speaker 1: basically brown sand niggas.
Speaker 5: They're not light sanding niggas or dark skann niggas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so still you ain't.
Speaker 2: Quite that executive still out here, which you're not necessarily.
Speaker 1: Up like most of this ship.
Speaker 2: Bro, we were fighting to be up under people that
Speaker 2: we don't have to be.
Speaker 1: Like. We got there, y'all and we just really fuck
Speaker 1: with each other.
Speaker 2: Think about just us sitting down talking even though it's fun,
Speaker 2: big facts, it's for the show.
Speaker 1: Look at how much came out just right here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean if they still hurt some of
Speaker 1: the other things that I'm doing I want to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, you gotta be yourself? Is it?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. How hard is it to
Speaker 1: try to wear a hat that you can't fit?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, basically you know how
Speaker 2: you feel and it's really burning through your soul.
Speaker 1: You don't want to say it because of things you
Speaker 1: got going on. How hard is that to do for you?
Speaker 2: It's hard because I've done it over and over again.
Speaker 2: I built myself up, built myself up, and ran my
Speaker 2: fucking mouth and told now, and people don't help you
Speaker 2: build it back up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk all that shit. What it is you want?
Speaker 2: They better go talk that ship that they feel so
Speaker 2: they everybody want Jesus, they don't want it.
Speaker 1: They don't want I think the story.
Speaker 2: Of Jesus was Jesus came down to show you how
Speaker 2: to bury your cross.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in the same way that you come in,
Speaker 1: the same way. I'm gonna show you how to walk
Speaker 1: on water. Remember with the meal walking on water with Jesus.
Speaker 1: And they started down and they started.
Speaker 2: To do they did what they start saying it right, Jesus,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come down here and show you. Black kids
Speaker 2: in America are our across the bill. Ain't nobody else's
Speaker 2: across the bill. Ain't no politicians gonna save you. There
Speaker 2: ain't no one pill that's gonna help you get out
Speaker 2: there and bear that cross.
Speaker 1: The truths. You have to get out there and do
Speaker 1: it yourself. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So like what I believe, man, is that it's a
Speaker 2: lot of times I realize God didn't tell me to
Speaker 2: save nobody.
Speaker 1: It's God, John, God's supposed to save you. I'm just
Speaker 1: supposed to get a message to keep you moving.
Speaker 2: If I continuously have a harvest, and I tell people
Speaker 2: this all the time, if I had one piece of
Speaker 2: bread and I gave everybody in this room a piece
Speaker 2: of bread, right, I'm gonna be pissed off tomorrow. But
Speaker 2: if I'm selfish and build my bread up and create
Speaker 2: a bread store, go and start being selfish enough to
Speaker 2: go on harvest and plant and then build it up,
Speaker 2: then I can give with the love and the grace
Speaker 2: of God. But you have to be selfish for a
Speaker 2: long time to build it up. Well, you can get
Speaker 2: to that point.
Speaker 1: Our ego make us feel like we actually can save people.
Speaker 2: Think about this, bro consistently for the last fifteen or
Speaker 2: the last ten years.
Speaker 1: I've given my whole life to just helping people. That's it.
Speaker 2: And I use music to get me in a position
Speaker 2: where I can help people. And then I give everything
Speaker 2: and I'm by myself and have to build it up myself.
Speaker 2: We didn't have these conversations, you know me, motherfucker ain't
Speaker 2: came and checked on me when I was down when
Speaker 2: I was fucked up.
Speaker 1: No matter how much I.
Speaker 2: Don't help hundreds of thousands of people, ain't nobody fucking
Speaker 2: help me when I was down. So if God keeps
Speaker 2: showing you how people will do you, then I'm the
Speaker 2: fucking food to continue going.
Speaker 1: Down that road. And I can't pray, I can't ask
Speaker 1: God and already reveal to me.
Speaker 2: I'm the fucking food. Y'all in the food from taking
Speaker 2: from me because I keep giving. Then nobody telling me
Speaker 2: to do that shit. And I started noticing when it's
Speaker 2: some revolutionary shit, when it's time to get some shit
Speaker 2: popping in, they come and get Davey to better. I
Speaker 2: gotta their specific friend who makes millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: And I had to tell him. I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: call me when Disney called me.
Speaker 2: You don't just got to call me when it's time
Speaker 2: to get out on the streets. But people, people know and.
Speaker 1: Think about it, even our people.
Speaker 2: We know who to go to, who really stand for,
Speaker 2: and who gonna show up in our neighborhoods when we
Speaker 2: need them too. But when it's time to give, when
Speaker 2: the people got projects, we don't give with that same
Speaker 2: energy that we run and ask them for help with
Speaker 2: we don't, damn and until we start putting it.
Speaker 1: On the everyday ordinary men.
Speaker 2: It ain't no football player's fault. It ain't no basketball
Speaker 2: players fault. It ain't no politician's fault. It is our
Speaker 2: fault as a collective and into the everyday average person
Speaker 2: who realizes their responsibility. It's easy for you to tell
Speaker 2: this man who's sitting over here on big facts that
Speaker 2: he should get half of his check for something, but
Speaker 2: you got fifty, see it, you gonna give a fucking quarter.
Speaker 2: Malcolm Mark, we just talked about that, Hueyt p Knew
Speaker 2: name them all.
Speaker 1: I think about it.
Speaker 2: Let all the people suffer, then we let their family suffer.
Speaker 3: This situation even more intensive. Being from the South, do
Speaker 3: you think to amplifize it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does only because even because we still have
Speaker 2: those thought processes on us. You know, even if you
Speaker 2: look at hip hop the way that people look at
Speaker 2: rappers and who the dopest rappers, they ain't really got
Speaker 2: nothing to do with lyrics.
Speaker 1: That really got to do addiction.
Speaker 2: The more you speak like an English white man, the
Speaker 2: the better that you control the way that you use
Speaker 2: your addiction.
Speaker 1: It is how they look at you as as adult rapper.
Speaker 1: How the fuck? How in the fuck juvenile ain't considered
Speaker 1: as one of the best rappers? How Like?
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, Like if you don't talk like this
Speaker 2: and spit your versus just like this, and they don't
Speaker 2: consider you.
Speaker 8: To be dope, like even Southern rappers the closest you
Speaker 8: sound to being you know, an English white man's how
Speaker 8: they and it judged, and it judged your They judge,
Speaker 8: They judge you even by lines.
Speaker 2: Lines that don't even fucking exist. Like for me, bro,
Speaker 2: being from the South means everything you mean. Because one
Speaker 2: thing that David Vanner has shown, and I thank God
Speaker 2: for this, that if I can make it, anybody on.
Speaker 1: This planet can make it.
Speaker 2: Do you know what people say to me from I'm
Speaker 2: talking about some of the smallest places on this earth.
Speaker 2: If your black ass can do it, for what fuck
Speaker 2: you did it? You were sleeping in that van, you
Speaker 2: built a studio in your fucking van, and you can
Speaker 2: make it, then I can get off my ass and
Speaker 2: do it too.
Speaker 1: That's why God put this load on us, bro, That's
Speaker 1: why I'm so fucking proud of y'all.
Speaker 2: So you are to be able to take your platform
Speaker 2: speak like we speak. That was one of the reasons
Speaker 2: why I said I want you to go to Jazzy
Speaker 2: Jackson Retreat, because that's the only thing that I didn't feel.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was still fighting for that respect
Speaker 1: that you actually don't need. If we get our people
Speaker 1: and we can we can group.
Speaker 2: Our Southern things because our people still by CD from.
Speaker 1: Your ass, it's almost gone. But you go to something
Speaker 1: small that's still that's real money and real power. Hand
Speaker 1: the fucking hand so little.
Speaker 5: I have a question about a situation that was brought
Speaker 5: to my attention, like earlier this year, being that you
Speaker 5: are from Jackson and like from that area, what is
Speaker 5: your take on the two hundred and fifteen bodies that
Speaker 5: turned up behind the prison in Hines County.
Speaker 2: Like those those type of questions are hard to answer,
Speaker 2: and they're hard to answer because.
Speaker 1: I don't care where it is.
Speaker 2: If it's two hundred and fifty black bodies, dead people,
Speaker 2: you know I care, right, everybody knows the answer that if.
Speaker 1: You know me, you are you already know the answer.
Speaker 2: And what ends up happening is is you have to
Speaker 2: be careful what you say, because now, especially when I
Speaker 2: say with in hip hop news. People are looking for
Speaker 2: you to say one thing to get a small sound
Speaker 2: bite from.
Speaker 1: Right, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be sitting.
Speaker 2: The reason why I'm sitting here is because you know
Speaker 2: I care, and the fact that it's from Mississippi or
Speaker 2: happening in Mississippi.
Speaker 1: I got a tattooed on my back. I care a
Speaker 1: thousand more.
Speaker 2: But the problem is is what is the everyday average
Speaker 2: person willing to do right?
Speaker 1: Because every time I run and put.
Speaker 2: Myself on that cross and say let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2: But real revolution comes from the street.
Speaker 1: Up right. The only thing that we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: is a mouthpiece for what the streets really feel.
Speaker 2: And the streets have access to us and give us opportunity.
Speaker 2: And the way that they show us that they care
Speaker 2: is they are constituents with us. And so we are
Speaker 2: going to make sure that you're powerful so that when
Speaker 2: we need you, then we can use you. But we
Speaker 2: don't do that no more. Now these needs will leave
Speaker 2: you out here. Man that you get crucipiety. Dumbuck talk
Speaker 2: supposed to.
Speaker 5: Be essentially the foundation talk because don't show up.
Speaker 2: But then when you do show up and you get
Speaker 2: crucified in the man that nigga was stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, I did the greatest example of that, and
Speaker 1: I'm ana directly answer your question.
Speaker 2: People tell you don't cap, don't cap, No cap, no cap,
Speaker 2: no cap, don't cap, don't cap no cap. Well, then
Speaker 2: if I don't cap, then you don't know what the
Speaker 2: fuck I'm doing. And then you turn around saying doing
Speaker 2: so I.
Speaker 1: Got a cap. If I don't cap some you ain't.
Speaker 2: Gonna know what the fuck I'm doing because I've always
Speaker 2: decided what the ship did I do?
Speaker 11: But then you turn around be like, well, I'm the
Speaker 11: reason why this happened, and the reason why this happened.
Speaker 11: I'm the reason why, and think about this. We talked
Speaker 11: about this from high school. Dog, have I not been
Speaker 11: the same person? I was revolutionary high school. I was
Speaker 11: SGA president at Southern University. I told the motherfuckers at
Speaker 11: Southern they said, why you don't wear a tie? Because
Speaker 11: I wouldn't wear a tie. I said, don't you think
Speaker 11: there's been enough brokes around black folks?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 10: Let what at that video? Cut the music? One we
Speaker 10: ran to kill clan out the Mississippi. I threw the
Speaker 10: Confederate flag back at the Mother Cross. I still know
Speaker 10: the Queen's will bitches hit me to the game. I'm
Speaker 10: twenty two.
Speaker 1: Do I know that we pimp?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 1: I know that we're wrong. God. I know I should
Speaker 1: talk about more than dollars songs. I know that he
Speaker 1: is a miss.
Speaker 2: I know I'm there for a mission, but it's so
Speaker 2: hard to get him. Betweenty two inch rims don't blissen,
Speaker 2: I said, And it was crazy because Roma song said
Speaker 2: this was the dopest line of the year. They said,
Speaker 2: I'm from a place where a flag means more than me.
Speaker 2: I didn't even mean it to be that dope, but
Speaker 2: not from older I look at the.
Speaker 1: Young men and be like, fuck, that's hard. At ship.
Speaker 2: I'm from a place where flag means more than the
Speaker 2: Confederate flag.
Speaker 1: You know that means racism. And I'm at a point
Speaker 1: in my life now, white boy, what is Confederate flag?
Speaker 2: That's because if you think about it, that there is
Speaker 2: another aspect as as a pertains.
Speaker 1: To their coach. Yeah, put it on the truck, put
Speaker 1: it on your draws. But that ship means death to me.
Speaker 2: And so if you're gonna use it as a simple
Speaker 2: a symbol of a synthesis of people of a conglomerate
Speaker 2: of people. That ship means death to me, it means racism,
Speaker 2: It means slavery to me. It shouldn't be a state flag.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't represent nothing but your racist why you personal believes, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: And I ain't got no problem because if I want
Speaker 2: to wear my red, black and green right right, that
Speaker 2: shouldn't be a problem. And I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 2: happened when I started making those flags for the boxes.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I would do if I saw
Speaker 2: a white boy burn my flatter. So I say, if
Speaker 2: I want them to respect my flag, and with my
Speaker 2: flag stands on even though their flag, my flag doesn't
Speaker 2: directly affect them, we haven't done anything in them, but
Speaker 2: still I have to give a human that type of respect.
Speaker 1: Just keep your shit over there in your yarn. That's
Speaker 1: all I am.
Speaker 5: To a certain extent. But what else do you want
Speaker 5: to I don't want anything else. I was just I
Speaker 5: was just thinking, like because it's like for.
Speaker 1: Me, like what you want to do about this shit?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: It's not like yeah, that's too but it's just like for.
Speaker 5: Me, like on a personal level, like I know when
Speaker 5: I heard the ship shout out to my brother t Lewis.
Speaker 5: As soon as I heard it, like my first thought
Speaker 5: was like I hit him like okay, Like okay, So
Speaker 5: if I was to come down there and like try
Speaker 5: to figure out like what was going on and you know,
Speaker 5: try to put together like an informational piece and this
Speaker 5: and that, blah blah blah, like how like what will
Speaker 5: be the best way.
Speaker 2: To do it?
Speaker 5: And then like he was telling me, like the ship
Speaker 5: down there is so deep, like you gotta be careful
Speaker 5: where you poke around at type shit.
Speaker 1: So well, this is what I tell you, baby.
Speaker 2: Part of the problem is I don't think most people
Speaker 2: I'm the type of person I want to do something,
Speaker 2: I really really want to do something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to do something. I can't say I'll
Speaker 1: do something. I'm sick. I was fucking talking.
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons why I stopped my podcast,
Speaker 2: because I think there's too many niggas talking and motherfuckers
Speaker 2: won't talk about shit they know they don't know nothing about.
Speaker 2: It could be a fucking uh uh uh nuclear. It
Speaker 2: could be a nuclear explosion, and everybody want to talk
Speaker 2: about she's nuclear. Whatever the fuck They don't know what
Speaker 2: they're talking about, Like, everybody talking about shit like staying
Speaker 2: your lane, whatever your lane is, be a genius at
Speaker 2: your lane. But everybody talking, And I honestly think we
Speaker 2: are at warm now. Ain't the time to fucking be
Speaker 2: talking if you weren't prepared, That's what I.
Speaker 1: Was telling you, Broy. Haven't I not been talking about
Speaker 1: the same shit in fifteen years twenty? Motherfuckers ain't didn't
Speaker 1: listen back then. They're not gonna listen now.
Speaker 2: What's their biggest whipping huh? Well, what's their biggest whiping
Speaker 2: against us?
Speaker 1: Oh? They bron nick ourselves. Brother. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I feel like, and I'm still gonna answer your question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like. I feel like we're butterfly as in
Speaker 1: an empire.
Speaker 2: But they're playing with our food, they're playing with our education,
Speaker 2: they're playing with our mind with these phones.
Speaker 1: Bro, it's so much now.
Speaker 2: And the problem is is that it's hard for us
Speaker 2: to even identify, you know, who really on our side
Speaker 2: because a lot of these.
Speaker 1: Niggas biggs bigger crackers than any any white boy you
Speaker 1: ever see, especially the niggas that are in position.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that you got different type
Speaker 1: of negroes bro like.
Speaker 2: It's so hard man like, and it's hard for me
Speaker 2: as a person who who believes that he's a revolutionary
Speaker 2: because unlike some white people, we gotta fight both sides.
Speaker 1: We gotta fight niggas and crafts at the same level too.
Speaker 2: At least white people, at least white people can agree
Speaker 2: on the fact that we black people are indigenous people
Speaker 2: in general reproduce that are rape that if white people
Speaker 2: don't do something, they gonna die.
Speaker 1: So they at least.
Speaker 2: Agree on Okay, we can have me and you can
Speaker 2: fight later on. But as we know that we against them, right,
Speaker 2: a lot of us don't even know that we would.
Speaker 2: And so it's hard for you to fight, like totally
Speaker 2: fight for somebody who nine times uptil look at you
Speaker 2: as a bigger enemy.
Speaker 5: So do you feel like most niggas that are in
Speaker 5: positions of power are puppets?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because what I also realized is all niggas,
Speaker 2: all of them are not I'm not gonna say smarter
Speaker 2: though they're not.
Speaker 1: Enlightened enough to even know that they won't.
Speaker 2: Some people, some people were raised they family, think about it,
Speaker 2: our parents, and this is a harsh reality. I know, Regaina,
Speaker 2: this is a harsh reality. But most of our parents
Speaker 2: would get along gang niggas because if they wasn't they
Speaker 2: be dead from a tree somewhere. So most of us
Speaker 2: we just ended up listening to hip hop or we
Speaker 2: bumped into something that that's what hip hop did for me.
Speaker 1: You know, I tell us that Dot X all the time,
Speaker 1: who is there?
Speaker 2: That's from brand Nubian's. I got hold of a brand
Speaker 2: Nubian uh City and stopped eating pork. Read you know,
Speaker 2: Malcolm X got hold to one of the books that
Speaker 2: they have taken out of the school from the broad
Speaker 2: of files. I read the flies.
Speaker 1: Changed, my stoleach from my cousin. Ain't got conscious. So
Speaker 1: a lot of these negroes, they don't even know that
Speaker 1: they sell out.
Speaker 2: They don't even know like some of these kids from
Speaker 2: some of these places, they parents beat their natural language
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: If they don't speak like they from England, you can't
Speaker 1: walk in the fucking house. So some of us, do
Speaker 1: you know who the you know most of.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 1: No, it's the biggest, the biggest breaker of slaves with
Speaker 1: other slaves. So yeah, a lot of times it was
Speaker 1: our parents that broke us. Yeah, we don't even know that.
Speaker 1: Can I Can I tell y'all quick spin they go
Speaker 1: back to the whole puppet thing that I was talking about.
Speaker 5: But I guess that's proven your point about a lot
Speaker 5: of the puppets don't even understand that they are one
Speaker 5: of the biggest roles in our detrimental puppetry.
Speaker 2: A lot of niggas, a lot of the niggas can say,
Speaker 2: a lot of niggas feel like, Okay, get woke and
Speaker 2: know that I'm fighting to fight against my people and these.
Speaker 1: People, right. But you what we just said. So then
Speaker 1: they put you on the side of being self like,
Speaker 1: fuck everybody, it's about me.
Speaker 2: But so w when you get to fuck everybody, niggas,
Speaker 2: donna feel like your sellout because you're not the nigga
Speaker 2: trying to be a revolutionary or trying to speak for
Speaker 2: these niggas. I can't say, y'all, niggas because that put
Speaker 2: me on the cross because I'm willing to go all
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: But y'all ready to turn out. And that's you just
Speaker 1: taught me something. You just taught me something right there.
Speaker 1: That's why the shit is important. Watch this.
Speaker 2: The person who's says that they are willing to do
Speaker 2: everything for us. Think about how we look at a revolutionary.
Speaker 2: This is the person who is willing to give.
Speaker 1: Everything for you. He ready to let up, ready to
Speaker 1: go out.
Speaker 2: Man, man rapper that get everything that y'all say rappers
Speaker 2: don't do, or you let somebody kill him.
Speaker 1: The one that came back to the hood. It took
Speaker 1: care of the hood. You let that happen.
Speaker 2: We're supposed to We're supposed to make a We're supposed
Speaker 2: to make a public example. Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but that's what I'm saying. It's us.
Speaker 3: That's when you hang a nigga. Well, that's the that's
Speaker 3: that's that's that's ship. That's that's the simple. That's the simple.
Speaker 1: But what you mean you can't take it out because
Speaker 1: because with me, gosh, now I know they can't do that.
Speaker 1: Let's say. Let's and y'all, I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 1: I had I had to learn. This ego makes you
Speaker 1: want to tell everything that you know some shit ain't
Speaker 1: say right, And that's my problem.
Speaker 2: Fuck. If y'all noticed, I had one of the top
Speaker 2: black lectures in the United States period. But you never
Speaker 2: see any video from any of my lectures, because what
Speaker 2: if we came up with the answer to plus planning
Speaker 2: and on Instagram? Government is conspiring against our children that
Speaker 2: ain't on.
Speaker 1: Facebook, So why do we want to do it in public?
Speaker 1: That shit stupid.
Speaker 2: If you really really got a plan and were really
Speaker 2: about to get some money, you ain't gonna tell everybody.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We really, That's what I'm saying, y'all.
Speaker 2: It got to be a small group of us who
Speaker 2: really about moving and really about because one of the
Speaker 2: things that I don't like that we do. If you
Speaker 2: really study most of these cats, look at what they do.
Speaker 2: They tell you what they're gonna do. They saying, and
Speaker 2: they knew they're saying in their action. They're saying in
Speaker 2: who they married, I.
Speaker 1: See what you love.
Speaker 2: Like most of these politicians, look at who they were
Speaker 2: before they needed your fault. You're gonna fuck about black folks.
Speaker 2: I'm not emotional about that shit. I don't care if
Speaker 2: it's an amen. I don't do y'all know, some of
Speaker 2: the most revolutionary people in history negotiated with the Klan.
Speaker 2: The Klan didn't want black folks in America, and some
Speaker 2: black folks didn't want to be in America.
Speaker 1: So if you willing to get three million dollars for
Speaker 1: me to get a vote, me to go back to Africa.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to be in this bitch either.
Speaker 1: We can tell sign me up.
Speaker 2: We're getting talked. So it ain't about Democrats, oh Republicans.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about neither one of right
Speaker 2: wing left wing. They part of the same fucking bird.
Speaker 1: I say.
Speaker 2: Somebody said, nowhere do you all know how many people
Speaker 2: are running for president and vice president? But they don't
Speaker 2: allow you to see two debates? What if the Green
Speaker 2: Party got the fucking real player?
Speaker 1: But we don't research.
Speaker 2: And if we really want to do something about politics,
Speaker 2: why don't we find somebody.
Speaker 1: To be like? Okay, I really really I really really
Speaker 1: like big Chree. Yeah, I really like what that boy
Speaker 1: he has cord.
Speaker 2: Let's all pull our money together, because to me, politicians,
Speaker 2: if you ain't if that's the money's doing the whole
Speaker 2: bunch of talking. I say about music, but let's raise Creed.
Speaker 2: That's rais him in a way, and you come from
Speaker 2: our environment.
Speaker 1: It's some politicians, not all of them. Some just don't
Speaker 1: know no better.
Speaker 2: They've never been broken so they don't really know how
Speaker 2: understand what these.
Speaker 1: So why not if we really care about this?
Speaker 2: Black pople are so vested all of a sudden in politics,
Speaker 2: why not build.
Speaker 1: Your own person and get behind them. That makes all sense.
Speaker 1: Name one Democrat in.
Speaker 2: Recent history that got passed anywhere without black folks becase,
Speaker 2: none of them, not even when you're black. Say what
Speaker 2: you're gonna do for your own people? Come on, man,
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you what to do. All I'm telling
Speaker 2: you to do is stay. I say that after election,
Speaker 2: I don't care what you think about me.
Speaker 1: Just stay and make sure that you tune in to
Speaker 1: should we keep that support roll boys and message? But
Speaker 1: all that, all that is the answer to your question.
Speaker 1: Like you said, what is the system? All of this
Speaker 1: is the system.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: Music industry has a system, Politics has a system. America
Speaker 1: has a system. It's various systems within one system, and
Speaker 1: they are created. You said they killed Missouri, slip anywhere.
Speaker 2: No, But I will tell y'all man, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: a harsh reality man, to to to be a black
Speaker 2: man in America that care. You know. That's what I
Speaker 2: realized is that I thought, coming from the streets, coming
Speaker 2: from an environment that I came from.
Speaker 1: I really thought that I didn't giving.
Speaker 2: Fuck, And when I got money, it gave me the
Speaker 2: space to see how much I really do care. I
Speaker 2: love black people with everything that I got in my body.
Speaker 2: I know where I'm from everything in my body. And
Speaker 2: what I had to realize is that.
Speaker 1: My my therapist told me this.
Speaker 2: My therapist said, you're always talking about the people, the
Speaker 2: people people, he said, with you the people you black.
Speaker 1: I realized I don't treat myself with.
Speaker 2: And part of what I do is I projected on
Speaker 2: other people and try to help other people to make
Speaker 2: me feel better about myself.
Speaker 1: And the real people treat you the way you treat yourself.
Speaker 1: You think about the rappers who treat people like shit,
Speaker 1: like dog shit ain't got the ones.
Speaker 2: We play their music the most. Some of their music
Speaker 2: is dope, but most of it is more of a mentality.
Speaker 2: I got bore to you, you ain't shit. They really
Speaker 2: treat me like white people treat you elite white people.
Speaker 2: Think about this and and I got a little bit
Speaker 2: of myself. But think about how most entertainments that are black,
Speaker 2: they don't even sell themselves. They sell an elite white car.
Speaker 2: Elite white clothes. I want to know you, I want
Speaker 2: to know what's inside of you. But they sell you
Speaker 2: everything but themselves.
Speaker 1: And I figured out I figured that out was doing
Speaker 1: I found that I was doing the same shit. Think
Speaker 1: about it. As a woman, people usually treat you the
Speaker 1: same way you treat yourself.
Speaker 2: Whatever you insecure about, that's what they key in on
Speaker 2: if you don't take no shit.
Speaker 1: I know some women who.
Speaker 2: Saw one of the most dog ass motherfuckers on this planet.
Speaker 2: When she walks into the room because she don't take
Speaker 2: that ship, she get the utmost.
Speaker 1: Respect, right. So so, so the thing is is that
Speaker 1: we as a people, we gotta treat each other better.
Speaker 1: We gotta be kinder the stuff that we do.
Speaker 2: Bro, me and this man sometimes out of nowhere, Man,
Speaker 2: I call him and be like, Bro, as it pertains
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: In a father. Now you my mentor because you had
Speaker 1: a kid before me. Bro, talk to me, how is
Speaker 1: that ship?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: Like, I ain't gone.
Speaker 13: I'm nervous about this, you know, And we had the
Speaker 13: fucking conversations or anything. Bro, you call me and be like, Banna, Man,
Speaker 13: you know that system shiit Like, talk to me about
Speaker 13: that ship. But we got to do it on the phone,
Speaker 13: and you got to be like, bro, it's some ship
Speaker 13: that I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I do know. Let's figure this
Speaker 1: shit out together.
Speaker 2: But we talked about the sit in front of cameras
Speaker 2: and as soon as we leave them cameras cut.
Speaker 1: Out, we go back there. Right. Yeah, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I just don't want them niggas. Man.
Speaker 2: That just stuck between trying to God there be on
Speaker 2: that cross for niggas. Man, when the niggas, when niggas
Speaker 2: already got a cross over here, and they back you
Speaker 2: up for you, you know what I'm saying, Like, you
Speaker 2: can try to fight for everybody, bro, but at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, they want to hang you too.
Speaker 2: So what you do.
Speaker 1: You create your own little bubble man, and create your
Speaker 1: own little family first, that's the only way.
Speaker 2: Now, you create your family, and then maybe they see,
Speaker 2: maybe people will see like, Okay, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think I can be out there trying to
Speaker 2: do it for it, That's what I'm saying. What I'm saying, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You said, you said, you said, put it all on
Speaker 1: the line for some people like even certain shit I
Speaker 1: want to say, But bro, you already do it. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, bro, I'm telling you what I see. Okay, Like, Bro, you.
Speaker 2: Brock y'all answer this question. When he first had on
Speaker 2: this bitch, first start fucking with.
Speaker 1: Y'all, was he not a different man? Oh for sure?
Speaker 1: But but buddy, buddy always had the same heart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can't make something that you don't have.
Speaker 2: But I just mean, Bro, do you know how many
Speaker 2: people watch you peel them layers off? But I know
Speaker 2: that's how a lot of people looked at me. Like
Speaker 2: I remember when I first got on TV, told say that.
Speaker 1: I was on high blood pressure peels.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many thanks to hustle, I tell
Speaker 2: people that all the time, all these so called conscious motherfuckers, they.
Speaker 1: Don't fuck with me. They ain't never fucking me. They
Speaker 1: don't like me.
Speaker 2: I make them uncomfortable because I want to do something.
Speaker 2: A lot of my fuckers just won't talk, don't want.
Speaker 1: I don't think we should be talking.
Speaker 2: But man, a lot of them cats to see me,
Speaker 2: and they're like, damn the man, if you were comfortable
Speaker 2: enough man to go ahead and start taking your pills
Speaker 2: and talk about that ship.
Speaker 1: From the world. I know I can do it like Bro,
Speaker 1: you don't know who to be watching, bro, And the
Speaker 1: thing is whether we like it or not. That's what
Speaker 1: I tell people all time. No matter how conscious I am, niggas, bitches,
Speaker 1: drug dealers, killers, they put me on. That's why I
Speaker 1: never turned my nose up to the streets ever, no
Speaker 1: matter how conscious that I get, have you noticed no
Speaker 1: matter how mad I did black.
Speaker 2: People, I always say, we never separate myself, no matter
Speaker 2: how smart, how much money I got, because conscious people
Speaker 2: didn't put me on rippity rappity rapperty niggas. As much
Speaker 2: as I like rippanty rapping all the time of niggas
Speaker 2: don't fuck with me, no.
Speaker 1: Matter how dope my song is, no matter how dope.
Speaker 2: Death of the pop Star, no matter how dope, no
Speaker 2: matter how dope did God box.
Speaker 1: Here's people were listening to like Pimp and might get you.
Speaker 2: That's why I hear playing girl pushy with talk all
Speaker 2: that ship they want to.
Speaker 1: I lost money every time I did positive music. Every
Speaker 1: time you tell me that spent that much money on
Speaker 1: themself on the positive. But what I know is at
Speaker 1: least I can say that I try right. But not easy.
Speaker 2: It's easy for you to make them the records though
Speaker 2: like not the country acting the other acts. That's see Washington,
Speaker 2: you don't like this.
Speaker 1: People don't understand all this shit is simple. The reason why.
Speaker 2: Lower vibrational ship or not so smart ship sales, it's
Speaker 2: because there are more people who.
Speaker 1: Are going to kindergarten then there have been that graduation
Speaker 1: from twelve rights even less people who have a doctorate, right,
Speaker 1: but even the doctor listening. So what we have to
Speaker 1: understand is, and it's.
Speaker 2: No different than Malcolms, some people want to be smart
Speaker 2: for the sake of being smart. If you notice, Malcolm
Speaker 2: X had one of the greatest commands on the English
Speaker 2: language and he never said anything the average man couldn't understand,
Speaker 2: because are you trying to show me that you're smart
Speaker 2: or are you trying to get me to understand?
Speaker 1: So that means sometimes I have to dip back off
Speaker 1: into some ship that I don't like, bro.
Speaker 2: It it bothers me at a spiritual level. Reginia, how
Speaker 2: many months have how many years have I had? The godbox?
Speaker 1: Two five years old? It's gonna come as long as
Speaker 1: she known that that ships so fucking hood come out
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 2: But the problem is is I know what people want.
Speaker 2: I got a really good friend of mine in DC who.
Speaker 1: He having the same problem with with with with with food.
Speaker 1: Like he cooks fried food, that's what he's known for,
Speaker 1: but he eats now that he's been conscious now he
Speaker 1: don't eat like that. But he know what people want.
Speaker 1: And that's the difference. Man, like an internal contelation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably eating them up to sell that ship. You know
Speaker 1: that should eat you up to sell it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I couldn't get a restaurant right now and
Speaker 2: see it like so, I couldn't even do it. Even
Speaker 2: though I know how to cook that ship, I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I would have to try to sell it begging through it.
Speaker 2: I'm saying something that resonates with your speaker.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: Or you want to be able to sleep at night,
Speaker 2: that's why you got, bro, And I was one of them.
Speaker 2: All this damn money. My cousin used to say it
Speaker 2: all the time, Bro, you got marbles and calls and
Speaker 2: billions of dollars, Why you ain't sleeping because that ship
Speaker 2: don't do nothing for your soul? But I would say
Speaker 2: I'd much rather figure it out with some money. Than fact,
Speaker 2: I'm just figured out in the house.
Speaker 1: In my van like I was before.
Speaker 2: But but Bro, I'll tell you this man, and I
Speaker 2: say it to everybody. When I started back sleeping, I
Speaker 2: would have paid any of your money money, bro, to
Speaker 2: just get it. I'll sleep in an hour to night
Speaker 2: and to beat his house out and can't Georgia, Bro,
Speaker 2: I was living on top of a mountain, literally on
Speaker 2: top of the mountain.
Speaker 1: Couldn't shoot it up, you know. So I always say, Bro,
Speaker 1: there's a way for you to get money, bro, And
Speaker 1: it agree with your spear.
Speaker 2: But the reason why it don't affect some people and
Speaker 2: it affects others is because some people never have a spill.
Speaker 2: Like you just said about him, no matter what he
Speaker 2: did in the streets, in his heart, he was still
Speaker 2: a good person. And what money gave him an opportunity
Speaker 2: to do. It's to find that when you ain't got
Speaker 2: no money, he can't find, You can't find. And they
Speaker 2: know that we're animals before with anything, you're going to somebody, Right.
Speaker 1: We make some money.
Speaker 3: What's the money? What's the money plays? That's a good question.
Speaker 3: What's the money plays? What's the money plays?
Speaker 1: Right now? I want to be a superhero. Bro, wanna
Speaker 1: do a superhero field and you've done that.
Speaker 2: There was a young girl who came crying to her
Speaker 2: dad uncontrollably. Her dad said, she's four year old, black, beautiful,
Speaker 2: darks can She said, Danny, Daddy, daddy, Are they gonna
Speaker 2: be any black people in the future?
Speaker 1: He said, why? She said, because I was watching the
Speaker 1: just since and I didn't see him. Like some science
Speaker 1: fiction is them preparing us for a future, and they
Speaker 1: usually don't have us an it.
Speaker 2: Mr, Right, now watch this, I'm gonna go even further.
Speaker 1: What Superman, what few superman power y'all know kills him?
Speaker 1: But the Superman is few by the sun? Right, white
Speaker 1: deflects the sun. Right, white people are.
Speaker 2: Allergic to the sun. Right, If Superman superpower was really
Speaker 2: the sun, he'll be darker than the darkest night, he'd
Speaker 2: be darker than in the darkness.
Speaker 1: Anything, Bro, because we absorbed it somebody, so it's ours.
Speaker 2: A white scientist told me that there ain't no way
Speaker 2: Superman white, So it's our responsibility to properly depict that. Now,
Speaker 2: my second movie, I want to do a movie, said,
Speaker 2: I want to do a movie with Jill Stop, a
Speaker 2: love movie. Like a Love Jones type movie, and then
Speaker 2: they'd be like they be like with David Dinner. Like
Speaker 2: you just said you wanted to be in science fiction
Speaker 2: with black Love and America right now, especially on TV,
Speaker 2: is scie fi. You damn don't see it. So it's
Speaker 2: my responsibility, as fucking sexy as I.
Speaker 1: Am right now to use this body and get another
Speaker 1: body to look good than the motherfucker.
Speaker 2: And it ain't. I'm gonna tell y'all, somebody can little
Speaker 2: error did not at all as much as I'm in
Speaker 2: the fucking jim.
Speaker 1: If I don't look good, I need to go home.
Speaker 1: I'll set you the good smell. Did you smell me? Didn't?
Speaker 2: No, man, But for real, I want I am going
Speaker 2: to do sci fi Man, and hopefully our children won't
Speaker 2: know a time or they want to be a black
Speaker 2: mud right, yes, because because really all the superhero is
Speaker 2: showing you God and Corne and so they're telling us
Speaker 2: we're not gods. Like as much as I like Black Panther,
Speaker 2: that's cool. I only be no fucking cat, only Superman.
Speaker 2: Little girls want to be fucking wonder Woman. They want
Speaker 2: to be the flash, the fastest in the world, and
Speaker 2: they come from Hero comes from heyru from us the hero.
Speaker 1: We are the gods? So how we how dare we not?
Speaker 2: My little brother Karan Joseph Valley is working on a
Speaker 2: Black Superhero fan and y'all, the last movie that I
Speaker 2: was in, I played a god. You saw a picture
Speaker 2: you know, you know, and it's getting closer and closer,
Speaker 2: and like, that's what I want to do. I want
Speaker 2: to push my dream so fucking far. I want to
Speaker 2: show people like I maybe shouldn't say this, man, but
Speaker 2: like I want to come back when I shoot the field. Man.
Speaker 2: I want to do like an installment where motherfucker walking
Speaker 2: the club and we can't transfer up.
Speaker 1: We didn't transform the whole club. Maybe hooked motherfucker's up
Speaker 1: and they swing across the motherfucker club.
Speaker 2: Like literally, I want to do ship because think about it,
Speaker 2: bro and Lina is supposed to be the media capital
Speaker 2: of the world, but when you go to the club,
Speaker 2: you don't feel that ship.
Speaker 1: Like when I'm in Europe and going to phone parties
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying. I had an idea
Speaker 1: one time to what's that the ninja what's the ninja shit?
Speaker 1: The Ninja Warriors.
Speaker 2: I wanted to do some shit because black people we
Speaker 2: be so clean now, we don't want to get dirty.
Speaker 2: You can't get into the motherfucker club unless you do
Speaker 2: some ninja shit. You gotta get jump across, like I
Speaker 2: really want to fuck at the Leading Club.
Speaker 1: Be like that aboundance. Something ain't right about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I won't people to have fun and something different. Dance again, smile,
Speaker 1: do something, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I feel like you gotta just like he creates a
Speaker 3: lot of the fun in Atlanta Ship Show. He put
Speaker 3: me down with the Miguel Wilson shit the other day.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You just got to find
Speaker 3: the communities now and have your own fun with like
Speaker 3: minded people. You know what I'm saying, because a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't. They don't know nothing but sit down.
Speaker 3: Not to not those people, but sit down and blow
Speaker 3: a hookah.
Speaker 1: That's all they know. But we're gonna do with y'all.
Speaker 1: And again, I want to tell y'all man before getting
Speaker 1: this man, how how proud I am and y'all and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have got into much political shit. It wasn't
Speaker 1: for y'all.
Speaker 2: But I actually waited to come on the show because
Speaker 2: I really didn't know what I wanted to say. For
Speaker 2: a while, I had lost myself I know really what
Speaker 2: my basis was. And the more because then I had
Speaker 2: getting so much Like no lot think about this, man,
Speaker 2: Think about how we talked about this in the beginning
Speaker 2: of the show. People don't talk about the level of producer.
Speaker 2: I am bro produced Quincy Jones before. People don't talk
Speaker 2: about this.
Speaker 1: Why you think? Why you think that? What do you think?
Speaker 2: I think sometimes when you got people like let's say,
Speaker 2: I think there's no way for you to talk about
Speaker 2: the top five and not put ice cub in.
Speaker 1: I just think there's no way for you to do that.
Speaker 2: Like that dude with from one coat comment one coach
Speaker 2: all the way to another coach got the get got
Speaker 2: their producers, then they comped that ship again like right,
Speaker 2: Like what I think what happens with black folks is
Speaker 2: when they see that you.
Speaker 1: All right and other ship. I ever give a Greare example. Damn,
Speaker 1: I ain't never thought about how the fun.
Speaker 2: Is outcast considered one of the top artists any GNA
Speaker 2: know music, and you don't say they're the best rapping
Speaker 2: up they got be your best rap that you considered
Speaker 2: them to be the best rock country and all that
Speaker 2: kind of ship.
Speaker 1: The rappers. This snub is and then you're just gonna
Speaker 1: not say that he not his first. That don't make sense.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so I look at it from the standpoint
Speaker 2: of people see that I got so much other ship
Speaker 2: going on, or he'll be all right. But what I
Speaker 2: noticed as Southerner is we two knights. We never really
Speaker 2: want to took our spot. Were too time like the
Speaker 2: West Coast when it took this ship, like, we still
Speaker 2: don't have that proper film depiction yet of what we do.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm gonna tell you what I think it
Speaker 2: is about Southern niggas. Bring niggas just feel like sho,
Speaker 2: we can just get our paper. They don't want to
Speaker 2: get into the politics the other side of you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, this ship comes from.
Speaker 1: They started up north. Where's that we got it.
Speaker 2: We're finna milk the money out this shit, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, even though we could have took it
Speaker 2: like took it. But every time a nigga try to
Speaker 2: do that, we see what they do and they crucify
Speaker 2: any niggas at the top.
Speaker 1: But the truth is to go back to history. Bro,
Speaker 1: it's us where James Brown from. Bro Like like like
Speaker 1: like people talk all that. Like I even go from
Speaker 1: a hip hop perspective, bro.
Speaker 2: Like when you ask most people favorite hip hip hop producer,
Speaker 2: they used to say.
Speaker 1: Primo, Right, Primo can pray you from Texas? Please step
Speaker 1: across that, bro. Like, if you look at yourself, your
Speaker 1: samples are here. It goes back to show you how
Speaker 1: God work. We're just talking about God. The history.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Your people are from here, Bro, your people and we
Speaker 1: are from here, So there's no way that you can't
Speaker 1: skip past your grandpast. Harlem is the South, Bro. I
Speaker 1: lived in Harlem for six years. That's us. That's where
Speaker 1: the black people went to. That's the reason why they happen.
Speaker 2: There's so much style, they got so much crazy, Like,
Speaker 2: that's what people, That's what I pep.
Speaker 1: That's why I love Hall of Them so much. When
Speaker 1: I when I went to Hall Them all my homies
Speaker 1: from New York, it was like, wa, won't you go
Speaker 1: nowhere else? Because because this feel like Mississippi.
Speaker 2: I feel like Mississippi to me, and so like we
Speaker 2: part of our problem is we don't know our history.
Speaker 1: That's why Fight Night was so important to me, bro,
Speaker 1: Like when you see how important the Number Runners were,
Speaker 1: the Don't Dealers weren't to Atlanta being what they are.
Speaker 2: But but you can have white folks and they'll give
Speaker 2: you their scarfaces and their giant gotties and all of
Speaker 2: these different people.
Speaker 1: But we throw away our history, go away out of history.
Speaker 2: As soon as white people say that, they man, come on,
Speaker 2: bro that if you look even about the history of
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King. I was sitting out in front of
Speaker 2: pretty kid grabbed me and say, I know you love history.
Speaker 1: He set me down in.
Speaker 2: Front of a Citizens Trust's bank on Martin Luther King's
Speaker 2: that when you talked to some of the ogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he told me his story. But that was
Speaker 1: so powerful, Bro.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's my place to say
Speaker 2: it was so powerful, but he was like that og
Speaker 2: sent me down there like better.
Speaker 1: You ever noticed that Martin Luther.
Speaker 2: King outside of his church never talked or spoke in
Speaker 2: Lma like he did Birmingham and the other places.
Speaker 1: You ever noticed that? And did you you know why?
Speaker 1: Because the streets told him, Bro, you're talking to integration shit.
Speaker 2: The Atlanta clubs was so popping that white folks came
Speaker 2: to the black clubs in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: It was so poppy in the black businesses was so popping.
Speaker 1: We didn't need them.
Speaker 2: So they told mart you kid, you could talk that
Speaker 2: integration shit anywhere you want.
Speaker 1: To, you can't talk it here. He did whatever you
Speaker 1: wanted to do in his church.
Speaker 2: But outside of that he didn't speak because the street's
Speaker 2: told him that we will protect right, we can take
Speaker 2: care of you, and you can't talk that shit.
Speaker 1: You're gonna kill the black mood. And Martin Luther King
Speaker 1: didn't notice it. You right before he.
Speaker 2: Died, well, he told Harry Belafonte, I think I've integrated my.
Speaker 1: People into a burning town. Yes, yes, so all you
Speaker 1: gotta do. The problem is that we don't study, we
Speaker 1: don't care nothing about our history.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I will say this, there is no way in the
Speaker 1: hell you should go to any of these towns where
Speaker 1: you got legacy artists and not here history. When you
Speaker 1: go to La you hear Drake, you hear Snoop.
Speaker 12: You go, even if it's instrumental, even if it's an
Speaker 12: instrumental in the white motherfucking.
Speaker 1: Restaurants, you will hear try. Of course you're here, run DMC,
Speaker 1: you're here on New York. It should be the same
Speaker 1: in the South. The way that you go to Mississippi
Speaker 1: and I hear no David batter at all.
Speaker 2: That you come to Georgia and I hear no Little John,
Speaker 2: no pastor Troy, no outcasts, no usher.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We we they have beat history out of us so
Speaker 2: much that from a cellular level, there are certain things
Speaker 2: that we don't like that we have trauma towards because
Speaker 2: of the payment.
Speaker 1: Mind, I mean, my female.
Speaker 2: Big. What you're saying is correct, Like we forget about
Speaker 2: our people to fading, and I'll tell you, and most
Speaker 2: of these people, most of the people. He could be rapids,
Speaker 2: It could be anything, could be singles. It could be
Speaker 2: somebody that just did something great before we forget that.
Speaker 2: Their heroes too fast and like he said, like even asters, evens.
Speaker 1: But we live on all they did, all the hard work,
Speaker 1: live off.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna say they name. Is that not the
Speaker 2: reason why I told you why hired you. But may
Speaker 2: not be a big but then she maybe, but she
Speaker 2: got something to.
Speaker 1: Do with our musical history.
Speaker 2: And I told her, I'm to make sure that people
Speaker 2: know your fucking name and when we was on our podcast.
Speaker 2: When people see what they what are they?
Speaker 1: Friend?
Speaker 2: I start my podcast like that, and it's funny because
Speaker 2: I didn't even mean to do it that way.
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean bout fight night for all
Speaker 1: of them hustlers, all of them number.
Speaker 2: Runners, bro all of them strip clug on it. It's
Speaker 2: one in particular, but that's not my place to.
Speaker 14: Talk to history something outside some very I'm very careful
Speaker 14: with me again trying to play Jesus.
Speaker 1: They said they.
Speaker 2: Else no, but that's the hell of a punt though
Speaker 2: even the gangsters like we don't celebrate the gangsters that
Speaker 2: actually played it all the way gainst nigga and told
Speaker 2: them nobody ain't never brought this home room. We celebrate,
Speaker 2: but we'll talk more about the niggas who tell you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying will make you, will make you known.
Speaker 2: This nigga told so we just that means ain't nobody real.
Speaker 2: Woon't celebrate the niggas who actually stood up for something
Speaker 2: and then get mad at the kids because the kids
Speaker 2: will gravitate more to the people that you talk about.
Speaker 1: He kids don't listen what you say. They look at
Speaker 1: what you do. Same thing. We told you.
Speaker 2: Fuck what you talk about, nigga, that's where you spend
Speaker 2: your money. I don't give a fuck about no Instagram.
Speaker 2: I don't get fucked about none of that shit. Where
Speaker 2: you spend your money. That you care about. Who you
Speaker 2: marry is what you care about. All the rest of
Speaker 2: that shit is a whole bunch of bullshit. That's the
Speaker 2: reason why I love these kids, even from a revolutionary standpoint.
Speaker 2: Look at what these kids do that we didn't do.
Speaker 2: These kids don't talk about the white man.
Speaker 1: The white man.
Speaker 2: The kids say, no, John done that work at a
Speaker 2: Flipping Pancakes on fifty two sixty Bird Street.
Speaker 1: That's where that motherfucker work at.
Speaker 2: Let's go get him and his job. That's what I
Speaker 2: learned from these kids, almost specifically, who.
Speaker 1: Is the man? Let's stop talking about the man. We
Speaker 1: understand that there is a systemic problem.
Speaker 2: We talked about that and if there is a system,
Speaker 2: but let's find out who exactly are those people that
Speaker 2: go after they because we'll go after each other. Motherfucker,
Speaker 2: step on your shoes, don't bring your dope back. We're
Speaker 2: going directly to his house. So why don't we go
Speaker 2: to their house? And it was funny, and white comedians
Speaker 2: said it a couple of days ago. He was like,
Speaker 2: he was like, you know, this is something harsh to say,
Speaker 2: he said, but slavery was kind of neat, and everybody
Speaker 2: was like why there was like white people. I mean,
Speaker 2: black people are so much faster than us. They would
Speaker 2: have took off and ran and we wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: able to catch them. And then if we couldn't, we
Speaker 2: woul to call them.
Speaker 1: They fight better than us. They couldn't turned around and
Speaker 1: beat our ass. The fact that we control them was
Speaker 1: sort of need.
Speaker 2: And if you take all the emotions away from that,
Speaker 2: we now have the ability to wake the fuck up.
Speaker 1: I say the same think about our diet.
Speaker 2: You ain't no fucking slave no more. You don't have
Speaker 2: to eat scratch from a fucking pig no more. You
Speaker 2: choose to do that, and if you choose to do it,
Speaker 2: I don't judge you.
Speaker 1: That ain't my place.
Speaker 2: They just do my bad, couldn't y'all. They just prepped
Speaker 2: it up into chicken nuggets and ship now they just
Speaker 2: ship bro. They just piece that ship up.
Speaker 1: When you make it. It don't look like marketing or
Speaker 1: they or they play it in a way, or they
Speaker 1: play it in a way make us think that it's something.
Speaker 2: That just still that bush's still chilling, and they putting
Speaker 2: all the bullship.
Speaker 1: What I told you, man, what those certain nuggets are made.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: What dolphins Yeah, no, damn you no, damn dolphins on
Speaker 1: this ship.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: That's that ship that come off the flow when they
Speaker 2: cut the meat and the rest of that ship left
Speaker 2: brand that ship up. Man put a flave on it.
Speaker 2: Same thing that they did with bashing the day when
Speaker 2: we used to dream my liquor. When you know when
Speaker 2: they talk about filtered beer, filtered beer the mat, so
Speaker 2: that's the piss.
Speaker 1: Good beer.
Speaker 2: I had a whole boy who had money and still
Speaker 2: drink that ship reserved, steal something, go to town somewhere.
Speaker 1: He was still icemans that they put iceman in with moning.
Speaker 1: So this is what I tell y'all.
Speaker 2: In closing again, I'd like to thank you all for
Speaker 2: giving me the opportunity to speak about ship that our
Speaker 2: parents used to die for.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it is hard for me. I could
Speaker 1: have made so much more money. I will say that
Speaker 1: I am. I'm comfortable in myself now enough to say
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking gm ain't much sh out of touch
Speaker 1: that I wasn't successful there.
Speaker 12: Right, I.
Speaker 2: Made certain choices to be a certain type of man,
Speaker 2: and I'm proud of the man that I am. But
Speaker 2: I refuse to let my future children suffer. Right, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be successful. I'm going to do what I
Speaker 2: was supposed to do, and that may mean that I
Speaker 2: have to step away from some of the things that
Speaker 2: I'm passionate about in order to get what I know
Speaker 2: that I deserve. But I appreciate y'all for giving me
Speaker 2: the opportunity to speak my mind open door.
Speaker 1: Because one thing that I am and John Henrick Clark
Speaker 1: said this one of the ways, one of the ways
Speaker 1: that we can be free or get free. It's just
Speaker 1: acting like me free, the fact that I can come
Speaker 1: here and even if we don't agree with each other,
Speaker 1: that you at least let me say my piece and
Speaker 1: entertain my thought process thought or.
Speaker 2: At least let me get it out. That's originally what
Speaker 2: my podcast was supposed to be. What in Virgamia like
Speaker 2: if it's supposed to be to be a place like
Speaker 2: if a star got in trouble.
Speaker 1: We may not agree with you, but come at least
Speaker 1: you can get your statements out here.
Speaker 2: Bro. When they set Chris Brown up on Good Morning America, Bro,
Speaker 2: that was one of the most vicious things I ever
Speaker 2: said the song in my life.
Speaker 1: That wasn't right. It wasn't And I don't believe that
Speaker 1: people have many places where they can come and just
Speaker 1: be themselves.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this, you know, and I mean this,
Speaker 2: and I'm not just going to fight back to fight
Speaker 2: because of what it did for me. But you know,
Speaker 2: they try to get us to play pips, hustlers and
Speaker 2: dope dealers and all that kind of shit movies because
Speaker 2: they think that we're gonna make these people characters, character.
Speaker 1: Tips and of our coach.
Speaker 2: But it is my responsibility because I come from that ship,
Speaker 2: is to give them humanity. One thing about most people
Speaker 2: felt good about mostly, but they knew he wasn't.
Speaker 1: A fucking joke. Beach. That's my cousin. For a fucking rip.
Speaker 2: He said that all get it up. You get from
Speaker 2: back to see they trying to play us with all
Speaker 2: this power, and that motherfucker me all the time. Most
Speaker 2: of the killers that I know the coolest niggas in
Speaker 2: the world, except they go from one to one meal,
Speaker 2: and it ain't no fucking middle ground point. It is
Speaker 2: my responsibility because I love culching so much that if
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the pimp. That's the reason why people
Speaker 2: felt mostly so fucking much, is because I am going
Speaker 2: to give my people humanity or I'm not gonna do
Speaker 2: this shit, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave y'all with this. This shit hurt me
Speaker 1: so bad.
Speaker 2: Although I come from that environment, it's still my responsibility
Speaker 2: to study.
Speaker 1: Do you agree, yes, sir? Right, So I went and.
Speaker 2: Researched some of the most notorious pimps, especially some from
Speaker 2: the Midwest, because that's where my character was from, right, y'all.
Speaker 2: This shit hurt me so bad, bro, and I don't
Speaker 2: get emotional much, but this made me emotions. They asked him,
Speaker 2: what did.
Speaker 1: You want to be when you were a child? Guess
Speaker 1: what we say? He said? They wanted to be a
Speaker 1: gyminust looking sit for me. You know what that meant?
Speaker 1: I thought he would have wanted to be a football player,
Speaker 1: a dope dealer, something aggressive. There was so much disparity
Speaker 1: in his motherfucking neighborhood that it went from him wanting
Speaker 1: to be a gymnast to a fucking pipop. Hey ship,
Speaker 1: I said to me, I don't that's a bro that's
Speaker 1: it hurt me.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be a gymnast, flip around and leotarde
Speaker 2: for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: He wanted to play, but that serious put it in
Speaker 1: my package. Yeah, bigs, I ain't playing.
Speaker 12: I keep that man, and so it is my responsibility
Speaker 12: to show the humanity in him, to show the fucking humanity.
Speaker 2: That's my fucking job as an actor. It ain't nobody
Speaker 2: on this player gonna beat me doing that. Mother's gonna
Speaker 2: look back and be like, that's a bad motherfucker. And
Speaker 2: I'll say this too, so they won't do it nobody else.
Speaker 2: And so many, in so many cases, we allow the
Speaker 2: kings and our neighborhoods, the kings in our statement, the
Speaker 2: kings from where we're from, to go somewhere else and
Speaker 2: be generals in somebody else's army when they could have
Speaker 2: been our kings, and they will talk about them like
Speaker 2: shit when we don't realize that we did not nurture them.
Speaker 1: We talk about people leaving our neighborhoods, but if.
Speaker 2: We really treated people, think about it. The motherfuckers who
Speaker 2: do stay. We rob them smart motherfuckers. We call them nerves.
Speaker 1: We treat them like shit, and he ain't get mad
Speaker 1: when the motherfucker don't come back in the neighborhoods. The
Speaker 1: niggas who do the shit that we say that niggas
Speaker 1: don't do, we let them die and do nothing about it.
Speaker 1: It can't help. Some shit just don't happen. But the
Speaker 1: motherfuckers don't know he was here, right, got to do
Speaker 1: better and stop talking so much. Ship. If we treated
Speaker 1: people to the city of Memphis, try to pay me
Speaker 1: to live there. Bro, they were gonna take care of everything.
Speaker 1: And then somebody on the board.
Speaker 2: They facts the lyrics to play well girl, so they
Speaker 2: changed their mind about me.
Speaker 1: But I think with puzzond's good for the society.
Speaker 2: But like I was thinking about all of the taxing centers,
Speaker 2: I was thinking about all the things that Memphis was
Speaker 2: offering at the time for me to come and move
Speaker 2: to that city to do what people.
Speaker 1: Don't know, like what manor Jackson did you know? And
Speaker 1: baby Rice to be here.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, The ship don't happen. You
Speaker 2: gotta have a plan and we gotta stop right. We
Speaker 2: gotta stop trying to guilt trip. Motherfuckers watch supremacy. If
Speaker 2: you fucking sell out, they may kill you in the end,
Speaker 2: but they'll put you on a TV show. You cut
Speaker 2: your hair off and take your ass up something nose here,
Speaker 2: Ye'll give you an opportunity.
Speaker 1: We gotta be real.
Speaker 2: Black supremacy pains. Black supremacy guilt trips. So if you,
Speaker 2: if you show these kids that you will take care
Speaker 2: of them, if they come back to the community, it
Speaker 2: will be easier for them to not leave. But you
Speaker 2: don't do ship, but whoop on their ass and talk
Speaker 2: about them and make them feel bad.
Speaker 1: We got to stop that ship. Man, no facts, We
Speaker 1: got to stop that ship. Make sure y'all tuned in,
Speaker 1: and y'all do everything that you're supposed to.
Speaker 2: Make sure the Big Fact Station just be one of
Speaker 2: the biggest media conglimbates.
Speaker 1: And the brothers got real phone doing real ship.
Speaker 2: And thank y'all for not leaving us, Thank y'all for
Speaker 2: staying us, and thank y'all for evolving.
Speaker 6: I love y'all and I appreciate you, and thank you
Speaker 6: for picking up the phone. I need you, you know, beautiful,
Speaker 6: making you feel a certain kind of way. Yes, you said,
Speaker 6: Oh Bella. You said said it, Bro. We got to
Speaker 6: protect God smart people.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We see these people be
Speaker 1: smart and we clown them for being smart. That's great.
Speaker 1: We gotta protect our smart and get them smart.
Speaker 2: Niggas gotta stop throwing their motherfucker ass up at the
Speaker 2: motherfucker because they're smart too.
Speaker 1: If you fucking smart, your job is to teach. That's
Speaker 1: not saying about the niggas. A lot of the niggas
Speaker 1: that made people hate being smart, and that was the
Speaker 1: reason why.
Speaker 2: That was the reason why we made our own music
Speaker 2: because we tried to do what them smart niggas was
Speaker 2: doing and they turned their nose up at them.
Speaker 1: So they got a fucking responsibility too to come back
Speaker 1: and teach. Oh dog, motherfuckers. I can't stay the niggas, Bro,
Speaker 1: I can't stand nigga. Bro.
Speaker 15: You you in the God position God God, God is information,
Speaker 15: God is knowledge, God is freedom. You get in the
Speaker 15: God position and you pray for freedom and you pray
Speaker 15: for for for God to forgive you every day and
Speaker 15: you don't come back and fuck with your people, y'all.
Speaker 1: Final, This is only so what's that fine line?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: We'll take nipsey hustle. What's the fine line of going
Speaker 3: back but protectingself? What's the fine line from David Battle the.
Speaker 2: Spirit of discernment? Like I had to realize that, man,
Speaker 2: sometimes people are just hurt. It ain't person A lot
Speaker 2: of times when you're dealing with people in the hood,
Speaker 2: it ain't that big dislike you, but you are a
Speaker 2: mirror to show them what they don't feel like they
Speaker 2: can do. And like, if y'all know this, man, I
Speaker 2: was never the type of rapper to wear a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of I don't wear my jewelry out unless I'm
Speaker 2: going to shine.
Speaker 1: On mother another motherfucker. That got what I guess.
Speaker 2: And I'm at that point in my life where I
Speaker 2: can have some nice ship. When I was coming up
Speaker 2: in the trenches, I was out that mother fuck.
Speaker 1: I'm hungry. I like David Banner. He cool and ship.
Speaker 1: If I was a guy. That's why I never like,
Speaker 1: you haven't noticed me, but I never do. I understand
Speaker 1: the club longer that hour. I never get a motherfucker
Speaker 1: enough time to get drunk, not just drunk, but if
Speaker 1: you are smart, strategic. So I've never given the motherfucker
Speaker 1: enough time. Oh yeah, Okay, I got that on me.
Speaker 1: I was a dog, but that didn't line. Bro, they
Speaker 1: didn't know. It's just knowing what you used to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like I told you, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If this was on tape or not keeping your very
Speaker 2: heart but developing a snake's mind that you know. I know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell y'all something that I know about me,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I ever said this on
Speaker 2: on camera before. I know a lot of my contemporaries
Speaker 2: don't like me, and they don't like me because if
Speaker 2: David Banner becomes popular, then etiquette and morals means something.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that they don't show or they don't
Speaker 2: talk about what and NIXI, these were people who who.
Speaker 1: Honor meant something, Your word miant something.
Speaker 2: And so if NISI becomes the most powerful motherfucker that
Speaker 2: you can't treat women any kind of way that you
Speaker 2: want to. You can't not keep your word, You cannot
Speaker 2: have a cold. If Pop is number one rapper, then
Speaker 2: you gotta say something about the Black Panthers, because not
Speaker 2: if he's dead, you don't.
Speaker 1: Talk about that part about him.
Speaker 2: You cannot talk about part and not talking about revolution,
Speaker 2: not talk about the people.
Speaker 1: You cannot be You cannot David Benner cannot be popular,
Speaker 1: and you're not honor the hood. You're not honor the side.
Speaker 1: You can't say he's stupid.
Speaker 14: Look at Mississippi, the artists that came out of Mississippi
Speaker 14: that you know of the play. Tell me cret ain't smart.
Speaker 14: Tell me David Better ain't smart. Tell me too, no
Speaker 14: heads ain't smart. Tell me Ray Shrewmande, the final fucking
Speaker 14: a close, and and and and and and being free
Speaker 14: thinkers come on, man, So you can't say that shit
Speaker 14: no more.
Speaker 1: But what they want is.
Speaker 2: They want an an adult rated nigga with no morals
Speaker 2: and no values, so then they can do anything with
Speaker 2: our music.
Speaker 1: And it's not his fault because he doesn't know any better.
Speaker 1: And I never criticized the rapper because most rappers told
Speaker 1: you what they were.
Speaker 2: There was one female rapper in particular that I respect
Speaker 2: her so much because she told you who she was
Speaker 2: in the beginning and she never faulted for that. And
Speaker 2: then people once she detained a multi millionaires, I don't
Speaker 2: believe no, she said, this is who.
Speaker 1: The fuck I am. Those who know know I told
Speaker 1: you she was that she had a business and stood
Speaker 1: on it. Stood on a business. I respect it. That
Speaker 1: is the reason why I say it closing. If y'all
Speaker 1: ever know.
Speaker 2: All the stuff that I did with trading, all the
Speaker 2: stuff that I did, bruh, it was maybe ninth wonder
Speaker 2: Erica Badu Tyler quality.
Speaker 1: The rest of it was all gangsters.
Speaker 2: Like there's somebody in particular who probably the stops the
Speaker 2: second favorite gangster rapper. He brought me ten twenty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars and theyve been I don't want nobody, you know,
Speaker 2: he said.
Speaker 1: I know, if you have it, it's gonna get to
Speaker 1: the people, he said, But I don't don't. I don't
Speaker 1: need no fame for doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: Anything that I've ever done for the streets, anything I've
Speaker 2: ever done for the community, came through gangster.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this in my life, bro. And I
Speaker 1: hope he don't mind me telling me telling the story, bro.
Speaker 1: And now I'll end with this. I was driving through
Speaker 1: mid time right when OFFSET got out of prison, and
Speaker 1: I know what up O G. He's like, OG can't
Speaker 1: get your number, said I need some help. I was like, boy, bro,
Speaker 1: what you mean? It's like I want to do better.
Speaker 1: I don't know how.
Speaker 2: That was so like for a man to open his
Speaker 2: heart like I just and then that's right when legs
Speaker 2: so I can understand why that connection didn't happen. But
Speaker 2: he asked me anything.
Speaker 1: I just want to know, can you help me know
Speaker 1: what's Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's our responsibility our children. We can say whatever
Speaker 2: we want to about these kids music.
Speaker 1: Our children are a direct reflection what we did or
Speaker 1: did not teach.
Speaker 2: So if if they're not going in the right directions
Speaker 2: because we didn't want them in the right direction, we
Speaker 2: don't have we don't have no connection, we can show
Speaker 2: them what to do.
Speaker 1: We didn't put them on.
Speaker 2: If you look at the generation after me, then that's
Speaker 2: the Soldier Boy era on to what we have now, that's.
Speaker 1: The same generation.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, before him was a generation that we
Speaker 2: skipped over and guess it was free rappers in that category.
Speaker 1: You can't name many after them, create Kenzie Lamar and Jacoble.
Speaker 1: Their generation was a generation.
Speaker 2: After us, and we didn't usher them in and it
Speaker 2: was about three to five of them, and it was
Speaker 2: no more rappers.
Speaker 1: Out of the generation for the most part, and that's
Speaker 1: our fault and it wasn't because we were selfish. It
Speaker 1: was because we didn't know what we would do.
Speaker 2: We didn't add lawyers that were from the city and
Speaker 2: marketing company. We had to figure that shit out. So
Speaker 2: we're trying to hold this shit up if you businessmen
Speaker 2: and rappers and do the beats and tour and every
Speaker 2: fucking thing else. And we didn't have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: pull the kids up. Schnoop was the only other person
Speaker 2: I ever heard talk about that that was our fault.
Speaker 2: So the kids put themselves on them, so why should
Speaker 2: they fuck with us. We didn't do nothing to pull
Speaker 2: them upp. So all I can do is be here
Speaker 2: and be an example. And y'all be surprised what kids
Speaker 2: called me and the questions that they had, so they
Speaker 2: just waiting on that stuff.
Speaker 3: Sure, David Bannon, we'll appreciate you man. You know you're
Speaker 3: welcome anytime on Big Fact. Make sure y'all support everything.
Speaker 3: What's that website again?
Speaker 1: Dot com?
Speaker 3: There you go, David, and support everything he got going
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Speaker 1: Business coming up on b T. That's that's coming up.
Speaker 1: Family Business, Family Business, New Orleans. Yeah, New Orleans. Shout
Speaker 1: out to that girl over there and everything intact. Before
Speaker 1: I Go was the movie that I played to God.
Speaker 2: And Before I Go really really really exciting about that man.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know what, what I just asked people
Speaker 2: is just just sup poor. You know, you have to
Speaker 2: invest in people that you want to see successful. If
Speaker 2: y'all and black people all emotional about politics, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: This is the last thing I promised I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Jami.
Speaker 2: Why do we go get the same motherfuckers who didn't
Speaker 2: give a fuck about no politics before to talk about
Speaker 2: politics now?
Speaker 1: I never understood this ship.
Speaker 2: Why don't get the motherfuckers who've always been talking politics
Speaker 2: that's always If you don't do that, you got the
Speaker 2: same motherfuckers that's popular, and then expect them to know
Speaker 2: or do what's best for If I talked about this
Speaker 2: on another show, if we're the engineer to a problem,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: Be smarter to get a engineer if we really want
Speaker 1: some real answers to you, we just want to talk
Speaker 1: about Yeah, nobody want to do nothing.
Speaker 2: I'll be Donna did the wrong ship to be the
Speaker 2: only like it needs a dumb in here.
Speaker 1: I'll be just what's your saying, Oh, yeah, you want
Speaker 1: to do something. I don't want to do something.
Speaker 2: You know what I am gonna do, Bro, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get a whole bunch of money, man, and y'all my dream.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta go if I want to about
Speaker 1: the water, I want about water.
Speaker 2: Right as much as we talk revolution, if they want
Speaker 2: for white folks cut off our water, cut off our electricity,
Speaker 2: We're gonna get right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Jackson saw some of that, right.
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm gonna tell you someone cameras cut off. Like
Speaker 2: I developed something, bro, and submitted it to some really
Speaker 2: powerful people. If I'm gonna show you some of this, Virginia,
Speaker 2: can you pull up that water thing for him? You
Speaker 2: got that the water proposal?
Speaker 1: Bro? Like, like, no bullshit, I'll say this to them.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna shut up.
Speaker 2: I really really believe that my talent and my ability
Speaker 2: to think is being wasted. Yeah, Bro, I really think
Speaker 2: that I can help do some things that can help
Speaker 2: change the world. And Derick Grace said it one time.
Speaker 2: Dere Gray said, could you imagine David Banner with a
Speaker 2: billion dollars billions of dollars that's accessible? Whatever we think
Speaker 2: about that we could really do it. We wouldn't have
Speaker 2: to go to nobody else, you know. And that's the
Speaker 2: reason why I was telling you that I gotta be
Speaker 2: more quiet, because look at what level I'm getting to.
Speaker 2: And you know, them folks like as much as black
Speaker 2: people think that you get some credit or some money
Speaker 2: being revolutionary, you don't. Their motherfucker's scared me, bro. And
Speaker 2: I finally break my way through them doors, and then
Speaker 2: I start popping that ship again.
Speaker 1: And then if y'all notice I slowly disappeared, you make
Speaker 1: sure that you don't go disappeared. Is you mother gonna
Speaker 1: be like that did it to me on Instagram?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Okay with you? How that it was a tiny.
Speaker 2: Membory time every time I spoke seventy eight thousand whatever,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, it gave you that shit.
Speaker 1: Went down to three hundred, you know.
Speaker 2: But you know what it taught me, and what God
Speaker 2: has shown me is that means we have to build
Speaker 2: our own technology in our own We gotta we gotta stop,
Speaker 2: you know, giving our power to other people and then
Speaker 2: be surprised.
Speaker 1: Because they do the same thing every time. Right, I
Speaker 1: look at I look at America as a snake.
Speaker 2: And why is that? Even if you had a pet
Speaker 2: round snake, y'all was cool. Cool, motherfucker decided to bite
Speaker 2: you one day, would you be surprised?
Speaker 1: Why? Because it's still a snake.
Speaker 2: Historically, and people are always there's some good snakes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the black snake for a farmer may be the best
Speaker 2: snake on this planet. Maybe the best animals, keeps the
Speaker 2: rat south and all kind of good ship. Right, But
Speaker 2: like Mark, I mean, like Mohammad Alisau, when you see
Speaker 2: a black snake, if it's a month a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of other snakes, you're not gonna be like, ooh, that
Speaker 2: black snake now, even like all them snakes.
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Speaker 1: He was a little money.
Speaker 2: Yeah this.
Speaker 1: He some money. Yeah, man on the streets, it's big fact,
Speaker 1: No capt bitch,