WEBVTT - Susie Essman 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.440 The Craig Ferguson Pants on Fire Tour is on sale now. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.880 It's a new show, it's new material, but I'm afraid 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:12.520 it's still only me, Craig Ferguson on my own, standing 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.840 on a stage, telling comedy words. Come and see me, 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.560 buy tickets, bring your loved ones, or don't come and 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.439 see me. Don't buy tickets and don't bring your loved ones. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.919 I'm not your dad. You come or don't come, but 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.200 you should at least know what's happening, and it is. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:30.200 The tour kicks off late September and goes through the 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.040 end of the year and beyond. Tickets are available at 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.000 the Craig Ferguson Show dot Com slash tour. They are 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.120 available at the Craig Ferguson show dot Com slash tour 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:45.000 or at your local outlet in your region. My name 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:49.080 is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast is Joy. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.680 I talk to interest in people about what brings them happiness. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:01.640 I love my guest today. She is part of the 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:06.160 ensemble that made for My Money maybe the greatest television 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:11.840 program ever on American television, Kirby Your Enthusiasm. Susie essimond 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:21.560 is here, go fuck yourself. Do you ever play golf? 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.640 No, I've gone to the driving range, which is fine, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.440 But to sit out there for five fucking hours, I 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:28.760 hear you. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.080 I can't imagine what's interesting about that. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.640 I only like to play golf on my own, which 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.440 apparently is not the way you're meant to do it. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.600 I think that's the exact way you should do it, 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.920 because your competition should be yourself, right. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.720 And also, you fuck up, you don't get some guy 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.840 going he hey yeah, and then and like you can 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.800 bet and then win every time. You always win the 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.040 bat and if you lose, who care you lose? It 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.400 doesn't mire you bok And it's like going fishing. You go, yeah, 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.240 I got it, I threw it back. It's fine. You 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.360 gotta have three holes in one. It was awesome. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.520 Isn't it a wonderful thing to be able to lie 0:01:58.520 --> 0:01:59.120 to yourself. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:05.320 I think it's an essential component of mental health to 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.920 be able to tell yourself bullshit about yourself and then 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.000 believe it. Like I I look in the mirror and 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.480 I go, you are fucking awesome. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.120 Well you are, though, Look how handsome you are? 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.040 Well you know you see that now now what you're 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.799 doing there is you're participating in my delusion, and you're 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.960 delusion that I want. I want to say this and 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:32.359 it is a word of congratulations because you are an 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.960 essential component, which for me is one of the few 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:42.160 perfect television shows ever made, ever made. Yeah, it's amazing 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:42.440 to me. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.720 It's amazing to have been a part of it all 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.679 these times. And who you know, It's like, we never 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.519 knew this was what it was going to be. It 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.239 was just such a nothing thing when we started. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.720 Yeah, I mean it's it's I don. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:58.280 Mean nothing thing. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.160 I mean it was just a small, little low but 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.920 we had no budget, We had nothing. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.400 Yeah. I remember when it started and I was like, 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.560 Larry David was doing this thing and then and I 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.280 wasn't really aware of I knew SEIN failed, of course, 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.639 but I wasn't really aware of Larry as a kind. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.720 Of well that was the whole point of doing it, yeah, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:16.359 of course. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.639 But then when I was like, oh my god, this 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:24.040 is this guy's horrible, but I can't stop watching it. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.800 And then I think as the season goes on, either 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.360 I got more horrible or Larry got much nicer. But 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:30.720 either Waiting gets nicer. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.680 You just got used to it. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.440 I got used to it. I think that's what it was. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.280 But you know the truth of the matter, he hates 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.840 when I say this, but he's such a good actor. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.720 He's such a good comedic actor. It was all about acting. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:41.280 But he is. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.560 He's full of course he is, because he's not really 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.000 like that in real life. No, he's the least confrontational 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.520 person I know in real life. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.560 Well, I think also when I remember Larry was on 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.960 the Late Night Show when I was doing it. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.680 he came on that and he was great, but I 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.520 could see he was kind of like, what the fuck 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.400 is going on here? Who is this guy? 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.720 Well he started as a stand up Yeah, I know. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.080 That's right now in front with well you you did 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.480 you work in like do club dates with? Yeah? And 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.000 was that Jerry was working back then as well? Yeah, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.120 so where were you guys working? 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.400 Catchising Star, you know, the improv, the comic strip. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.040 I was going to say that, you know, do you 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.320 remember Lucien Hold at the comic strip? 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:22.720 Of course I remember Lucian. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.120 Lucian Hold was a guy giving me my first job 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:29.240 ever when I came off the boat. Basically really, yeah. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.200 Lucian was a very strange yet wonderful man. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.080 Yeah, I didn't get he was a very strange guy, 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.000 was he really? He brooked the acts for the comic the. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:39.880 Comic strip, and he actually was the first one to 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.279 pass me. You know, you had to audition and pass 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.320 in those days, and he was the first one to 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:44.640 pass me. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.920 And he gave me very in the beginning. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.800 He gave me very protected spots, like he put me 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.279 on first, like a nine o'clock spot, you know, and 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.280 he wouldn't give me the two o'clock in the morning. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.440 So he was good to me. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.880 Does that exist now, that kind of I don't know. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.400 I think that a lot of kids now when they're 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.440 starting out, because I talked to young comedians sometimes on this. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.400 Podcast bring audiences they have to bring. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.560 We didn't have to bring their tickety talk followers And 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:12.320 do you do all of that? 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.720 Well, I don't understand up anymore. But I haven't been 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.359 in the clubs for years. You should, Well, maybe I 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:19.520 should get. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.479 Out, do it, have a little fun. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.080 I'd have to write a whole new work. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.920 Maybe I will. I used to say no. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.400 Crowd work was always my default, and that kind of 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.320 crowd work made me lazy. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.600 Yeah, it does make it lazy because I was. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.000 Really good at it, so I didn't have to, you know, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:38.960 But now it. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.200 Can be a thing. You can just go out do 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.839 some crowd work and that's all you do. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:48.040 Maybe I will craigration, Maybe I could introduce you, I 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.400 could like open for you. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.640 And I had said coming up. Now she hasn't done 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.640 it for a while, she has no material, so keep 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:56.440 your expectations. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.960 All my material, all my old material, is so politically incorrect. 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.360 Doesn't do it anyway. Fuck that shit. I don't buy 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.479 into that bullshit. Well, I don't think you like it. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.600 I don't think it really. I don't think it's as 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.840 quite as on fire as people say it is. Yeah, probably, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:12.920 you know the people like the only time I see 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.240 people complaining about wokeness is when they're getting paid. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.560 Five million bucks for a Netflix pacialism. Then you go, 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:21.560 who the fuck is shutting you down? 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:22.800 Nobody you know? 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.880 On Curb, I mean, Curb was particularly vitally incorrect. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.960 When Larry steals the shoes from the Holocaust Museum. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.080 Do you know that we've never there was only one 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.080 episode in all one hundred and twenty episodes that we 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.960 did that we ever got major blowback from anything. He 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.560 never got blowback on it was it. It was the 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.320 one where I think it was season seven, where he's 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.880 taking some medication which is making him urinate like crazy, 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.960 and he peas into a into a toilet and the 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.839 urine is so forceful that it splashes up onto a 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.240 picture of Jesus and it looks like a tear was 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.479 coming out of Jesus's eye, and the people whose house 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.200 it was swear it was a sign. So he got 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.599 people were saying he was urinating on Jesus. He was 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:13.080 not urinating Jesus. Was a splash. But that's the only 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.920 time I ever went, and I was doing press for 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.840 the show at that time, that I ever had to 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.960 defend the show in any way, shape or form. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.360 Was that episode. Never never anything else. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.680 Well, I think the show maybe got Grandfather then a 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.960 little bit as well, because you guys were being horrendous 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.880 before the kind of yeah, that's true. The great reset, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.360 which I don't know when that happened, really, I guess 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.880 I don't know what happened that suddenly there was a 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.440 whole new way of thinking and you had to you know, 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.960 although like I say, I don't know how real it 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:46.600 really is. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.000 You know, I think you're right. I mean I think 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.040 it was real for like, you know, a minute. Yeah, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.720 and then I think that it's there's a backlash against it. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.880 Now. Well, I think people get a little tired of it. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.000 You know, you get a little tired of you can't 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:03.080 laugh at that. This is America, you know. Well, you 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.200 remember back in the day, it was like there was 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.440 Dice Clay or Sam Kennison and Don Rickles. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.040 My god, do you ever watch Don on YouTube? 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.240 He was always on my own late night show. I 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:15.840 loved Don. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.400 God, how funny was it? 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.400 He was amazing. Yeah, he came to a party in 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.800 my house and like one of the greatest moments. I 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.480 had this party at Christmas party in La and I 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.560 invited down and Barbara Wrickles to come the thing, and 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.280 he said, yeah, I'll come. He came to my house 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.240 in the Hollywood Hills. He gets out of the cart 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:35.880 and he comes over and he gives me a dollar bill. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.079 He says, here's a dollar Get a better fucking house. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:42.920 What are you saying that I had to drive up 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.120 all that, We have to drive up all these winningtels. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.240 Get a house. Get a house on the flood. This 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.280 is terrible. It's a terrible house. And I was like, okay, 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.000 but he I loved him him, and uh I was 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.960 getting quite close with him and Barbara for years. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.600 I love did you did you know? 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:02.719 Did not know him? 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.640 But when I was a kid, you know, we didn't 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:10.840 have DVR or v vhs. Even so when he was 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.840 on the Tonight Show, I used to, you know, set 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.520 the alarm to wake up so that my brother and 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.640 I could watch him because that was my favorite watching 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:18.120 him on the night. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.600 So it was huge influence onth. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.920 He and he was an interesting guy because he was like, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.440 he was so nice. He was like quite shy and 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.520 very friendly and and quite an emotional man. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.160 He was sentimental. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.240 Yes, yes, he was very sentimental. And he'd be like, no, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.280 I kid, but I love you. I love you. I 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.320 mean we kid because we love Yeah, that's right. I 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.199 think that's going to get out of jail card for 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:43.840 telling me I've got a ship. You know what. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.760 There's something about that I I kind of refused to 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.199 do because it's too apologetic, right. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.840 Right, you know. Yeah, And also I think if you're 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:57.880 busting someone's balls and they don't know that you're just 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.840 busting their balls, then you're not really doing it, bro 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.440 because if you bust someone's balls, like if you were 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.000 like having fun with someone, they should be able to 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:07.800 tell that's what you're doing. Like when he come in 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.240 and said, here's a dollar, get a better house, obviously, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:12.040 because if he. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.800 Gave you a million a better house. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.000 Okay, if he gave me a million dollars, you can 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.000 see what he fucking likes. At that point. I don't 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.040 care if he's being mean to me, But I think 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:26.400 that that kind of messing around humor that comes from 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.560 a different time. Yes, you know, I think I think 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.160 now it's a little more guarded than that. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:33.199 Absolutely more guarded. 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.240 But the thing about Rickles that was so impressive was 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.480 the speed that his brain work, you know, and I 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.480 know other it's just it was just so fascile and 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:43.360 so quick. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.079 Yeah, how he would come up with who was so 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.240 Rickles was one? Who were the other comedians that kind 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.800 of drew you into that world prior is amazing. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.400 Yeah, I mean I remember seeing when when I I 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.400 first saw that first concert movie of his, was that 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.000 Sunset Strip, or before was before that Sunset Strip was 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.480 the Red Outfit? But this was a black silk shirt. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.480 It was a concert movie and I had never seen him, 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.440 you know, and it was Whoa and theater. Yeah, it 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.520 was in movie theaters and it was the most brilliant 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.000 stand up. I had no interest in being a stand up. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.320 I didn't know anything about stand up comedy and I 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.400 had never been in a club. And then I went 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.480 out to LA to visit my cousin and he took 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.240 me to the comedy store because he had just directed 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.400 a movie. Prior was then called Some kind of Hero. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.960 It's a serious part. And he took me to see 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.400 Prior and Pryor was It was my first time in 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.080 a comedy club, was seeing Richard Pryor, so you know, 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.440 that's crazy. Yeah, And he was working on material for 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:43.600 sunset strip for his next thing. And it was revelatory 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.640 to me because not everything was working, you know, And 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.520 I didn't know that's how you did it. I thought, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.640 you know, when I was growing up, I saw you know, 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.920 Alan King on Ed Sullivan and he got up there 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.160 and he told his jokes. I thought, that's what it was. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.640 And then I saw Prior, who was like a god. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.840 Some stuff wasn't working. He was work shopping and I 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.160 was like, oh, I get it. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.640 That's see that. That's why I feel like the younger 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.760 comics and they're not getting a chance to fail because 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.480 everything is up there too fast. Yeah. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.719 And and when we were I mean, you know, coming up, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.840 there was no phones and there was no tweeting and 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.040 none of that or xing whatever the fuck it's called 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.959 twist twisting because none of that ship It felt private. Yeah, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.000 So you push the envelope until you felt that little 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.240 thing going up your spine just like I've gone. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.280 Too far, gone too far. But then you pull. That's 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.080 how I was part of the fun as well. It's 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.760 like you fight for the edges and then you can 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.080 get back from it. But but the thing is, I 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.480 think now with the with recording, I've noticed I say 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.719 to audiences, because I still do standard I love doing 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.520 standing up, and I will say I don't say personally, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.280 but you know, to the audience coming in, they're told, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.120 just you keep your phone, like if you again emergency, 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.120 someone calls you, that's fine, but just don't don't record 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.480 anything and don't do it. And they I'd say, like 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.800 nine percent of the time people got it, and they don't. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:05.240 They don't. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.920 Yeah, we went to see Chris Rock upstates that we 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.760 were upstate and he was in concerts and we went 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:11.839 to see it, and you. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:12.800 Had to give your phone. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.160 Yeah, a bunch of guys do that. I think Dave 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.000 Chappelle does that. I think Bill does it as well. 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.680 That they just make sure they put it in a 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.000 bag or bag. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.880 Or something and then you collect it. I don't like that. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.840 It seems like a law. And also I like to 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.720 think this is probably wishful thinking because nowadays, I think 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.640 most of the people to come and see me are 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.320 too old for this. But I like to think some 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.480 people come and see me, I've got little kids at 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.280 home and a babysitter, so they want to have Yeah, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.320 But I think really mostly that's not happening. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.920 I think most of them are older than having little kids. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.199 I know, that's what I'm saying. It's like they get 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.400 call from their kid. It's because their kid is having 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:49.720 a kid. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.040 It's interesting about that is I think that comedy is 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.000 one of the things that appeals to It's not a 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:57.240 generational thing. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.960 No, I think styles of comedy are I mean, there 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.880 are styles of comedy that are going around now with 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.360 younger communities. I kind of try and stay plugged in 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.160 to what's coming up. And there's some styles of it. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.400 I go, I don't really go for that, and I 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.720 never did. I suppose to go for parody songs and 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:14.800 all that kind of stuff. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.160 Yeah, and so he's hated following that. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:23.080 Yeah, parody songs or a lot of impressions, Like some 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.720 impressions is fun, but you can't you know, it's like 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:26.920 eating all candies. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.960 Or the ones that like take the mic into their 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.400 mouth doing the impressions. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:31.200 I hate that ship. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:36.480 Yeah, but you know, if I anecdotally, who stops me 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.280 on the street, most is boys in their twenties. 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.640 Oh and they want you to say, they want. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.840 Me to but they're curve fans and we're all old 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.680 on that show. There's not a one of us under 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.720 sixty on that show. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.600 That's funny. Yeah, you're right, we're all old. But the 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.160 energy of the show is so fun. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.000 But I'm just saying that comedy kind of. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.240 Yeah, No, you're right, good comedy. Yeah, you're right. I 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.720 feel like it's so also one of those things that 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.560 it gets to be like your audience will come with you. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.800 I've good people come and see me. Now see me, 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.240 Like twenty years ago, and they're you know, they're older, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.640 and they're you know, I'm doing jokes about my sore 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.360 hip and they're reaching that point, do you know what 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.920 I mean. It's like it's like they will come with you. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.240 I think that you do get like musicians get it 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.720 as well, although musicians get it really easy because you 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.840 write a song when you're eighteen and you're still playing 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.360 it when playing it. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.680 But music is another thing. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.000 I mean, I know my kids they listen to stuff 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.280 from the eighties all the time. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.280 That is true. Actually that is weird. Is good because 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.360 it's good and it has a certain lack of the 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.200 whiff of the algorithm in it. It's not it wasn't 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.120 made for your approval. It was made because it was 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:52.240 some drug addict somewhere right playing a guitar, and so 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.400 it kind of has a little not that I think 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.520 you have to be a drug addict to make good music, but. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.960 They just that was just they just happened. 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.280 To be happened to be drug addicts. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.640 Well, and amazingly some of them didn't die. Most of 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:05.400 them are alive. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:08.560 A lot some of them are alive. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.120 I mean John Mayle, I saw died at ninety last 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:12.920 week he was ninety. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:17.280 Yeah, that's that's Mick Jagger is still performing, he's eighty. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.880 Well look at Keith, Well, Keith put into his body. Well, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.000 but you know, I worked with them for a little while. Yeah, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.120 and did you open for that? 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.440 No? What I did was I was writing a screenplay 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.240 with Mick Jagger. Oh really, So I was on the 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:30.560 road with them for a little while. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.840 Wow. Yeah, do you need to write about that. 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.080 I've done it in the stand up and I've talked 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.120 about it a ton of times. But the thing was 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.480 that when I was out on the road with him, 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.960 I was amazed by Keith because Keith is not what 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.720 I thought he was going to be. Was the Bridge 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.360 Is to Babylon tour, and that was the tour where 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.480 Ronnie Wood went in rehab and he had to go 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.720 into rehab because Keith said that he was you know, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.000 he's getting fucked up too much. Can you imagine walking 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.040 at a rehab and you said you here, Yeah, Keith 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:05.320 Richards thinks I'll get too fucked up to party in 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:10.600 the group therapy session. I'm concerned. I'm concerned about you, Roddie. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.080 You know you're really letting yourself go. But I was 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.200 kind of surprise by Keith Richard because he's got a 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.640 kind of kind of streaked, tough guy vibe. It's not 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.800 like a fucked up you know, Captain Jack from the 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.120 I mean, that's kind of the persona that he's kind 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.879 of like Larry and kurb you know what I mean. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.040 It's like it's him, but it's not really him. Yeah, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.960 you know, it's kind of the way. Keith is more 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.600 like a like an enforcer kind of a guy. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.720 I wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of him. Yeah, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.439 I think he I mean, now I don't know, I 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:45.720 could probably yeah, he's eighty, but I mean, but I 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.520 don't know. Actually, I don't know. He has He's pretty energetic, 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.600 and Jagger is much more kind of like I felt 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.040 like Meck was much more took a back seat to 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.880 Keith's energy and really, yeah, interesting when they were so 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.760 you know, no, no, they don't really socialize that much, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.920 but when they were kind of like being around before 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.600 they go on stage, right, because everybody used to say, 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:13.400 you know, Keith doesn't that, so don't do it, you know, like, okay, 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.960 all right, but nobody doesn't like that. 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:17.000 Keith was the alpha. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.160 I feel like, yes, now maybe I'm I'm talking about. 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.919