Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast needs a hero in the
Speaker 1: mountain time. So welcome to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, coming to
Speaker 1: you from a country filled with heroes in bunkers. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Greg Rose the thought, what is up? Boys? You know
Speaker 1: we actually have some football to talk about? Here we go? Yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: Greg with a little bounce in his step. I can
Speaker 1: tell right now it's pumped up, no doubt. I mean,
Speaker 1: who who's honked more about Cam Newton on this podcast
Speaker 1: than me? Believe believing that this man was destined for
Speaker 1: a greater career than than really he's had. When you
Speaker 1: when you break it down, now it's time, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it. Of course, everyone knows the
Speaker 1: big news that came about this weekend, Cam Newton signs
Speaker 1: a one year deal with the New England Patriots. The
Speaker 1: throne of sleeves thriving. And this is so everybody knows,
Speaker 1: you know, Greg, obviously, Ricky maybe a bouncing our step
Speaker 1: will get to that in a little bit, but you
Speaker 1: know what, Mark, you could have a bounce in your step. Two.
Speaker 1: Because this is our last show before our little mini
Speaker 1: summer vacation. Don't get angry at as listeners. But we
Speaker 1: were taking off the rest of the week after today's show,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna celebrate Fourth of July with the family
Speaker 1: and just get a little bit of a breather, and
Speaker 1: we'll be back next Monday. But this will be your
Speaker 1: last show, first and only show of the week. Mark.
Speaker 1: I know you fought this behind the scenes. You kept
Speaker 1: on coming back to Greg and I and you're saying no,
Speaker 1: no more content, more football talk, and during our global pandemic,
Speaker 1: give us, give us what we want, give us what
Speaker 1: the listeners need. But we had to beat you back
Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, no, I I know, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's to my nature that I pushed to
Speaker 1: um maybe go five shows this week and get back
Speaker 1: to that um mode that we were in when Cam
Speaker 1: Newton um was you know, jettison from the Panthers doesn't
Speaker 1: feel that long ago, but it's a full three months
Speaker 1: ago at this point. So we have buzzed through this
Speaker 1: offseason at high speeds. Our daily shows feel so long
Speaker 1: ago to me. When did goes ND, I honestly don't remember.
Speaker 1: Was it May We were counting them at one point?
Speaker 1: Uh no? And then did after the third day of
Speaker 1: the draft. Okay, so yeah about May. Basically we did
Speaker 1: it for a month and a half. That feels like
Speaker 1: another lifetime ago. Yeah, it does not feel like yesterday
Speaker 1: to the longest year of my life. And I know
Speaker 1: I'm not alone on that front anyway. So, yes, we
Speaker 1: have a lot to get to, uh some news, but
Speaker 1: of course the big news is around Cam Newton, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna have it just in a little bit. Uh.
Speaker 1: The great Mike Gara Folo is gonna join us, one
Speaker 1: of the NFL Network insiders and a guy who is
Speaker 1: plugged in on these matters. Uh. But before we do
Speaker 1: that makes sense to just kind of have a conversation
Speaker 1: about it, because you know, we just did our last
Speaker 1: NFL Network show and one of the segments we did
Speaker 1: was kind of storylines that are going to be sticking
Speaker 1: in our heads a little bit when the NFL goes
Speaker 1: quiet during the pre training camp weeks. And the one
Speaker 1: I mentioned was the two quarterbacks that that are on
Speaker 1: everyone's minds. One Colin Kaepernick. No other explanation needed there.
Speaker 1: I don't think why that's on people's minds, But the
Speaker 1: other one was Cam Newton and just this idea that
Speaker 1: the former m v P, one of the great stars
Speaker 1: of the last decade of the NFL, was going to
Speaker 1: potentially head into July and maybe into August and who
Speaker 1: knows when without a job. Well that ended officially on
Speaker 1: Sunday when Newton signed a one year contract. Ian Rappaport
Speaker 1: of NFL Network said it was a bare minimum deal
Speaker 1: worth up to seven point five millions. So he does
Speaker 1: get a job, and he didn't need to wait until
Speaker 1: um he was able to get in front of a
Speaker 1: team for a workout. The Patriots essentially greg take a
Speaker 1: chance on Newton, but not even that good chance. It
Speaker 1: was this is it seems like a perfect fit for
Speaker 1: both Newton, who not only goes somewhere but has a
Speaker 1: chance to start, and the Patriots, who, whether anybody wanted
Speaker 1: to believe it or not, and most of us did
Speaker 1: not believe it had a major hole at quarterback. Maybe
Speaker 1: not anymore, maybe not. I mean his health, Cam Newton
Speaker 1: is the ultimate X factor, And it's like it's not
Speaker 1: just an asterisk, it's just sort of this thing hanging
Speaker 1: over this entire conversation along with you know, will there
Speaker 1: be a season? But if he is healthy and he's
Speaker 1: looked healthy in those workouts and his arm looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know, last year, I think everyone forgets you know,
Speaker 1: including me. I sort of blocked those games out. He
Speaker 1: did play, you know, in the preseason a bit. He
Speaker 1: got hurt against the Patriots and that that's where it
Speaker 1: all started. But his arm looked good in camp, and
Speaker 1: the arm is is one concern in the foot injury
Speaker 1: that knocked him out. That Liz Frank you know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, not a good lady, you know. He that's
Speaker 1: the reason he's out. And I have heard and I
Speaker 1: have tried to ask people about this, and there's some
Speaker 1: talk like, look if he got hurt again, is that
Speaker 1: gonna be it for Cam Newton. There's that sort of
Speaker 1: talk about him, and that's why no other team offered
Speaker 1: him a contract. There is a report that he literally
Speaker 1: had no other offers, and I've seen a lot out there.
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, he only got Marcus Mariotta money, and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, he got Jared Stidham money. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen the details, but the Patriots only had one million
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space going into this weekend, and so
Speaker 1: that tells me maybe they'll move some things around. But
Speaker 1: very likely he's expected to be right around the minimum
Speaker 1: as Ian Rappaport said, So he's making about one million,
Speaker 1: Brian Horrier is making about one million, and Jared Stidham
Speaker 1: is making about eight hundred thousand or whatever that is.
Speaker 1: The three of them combined are gonna cost about a
Speaker 1: third on the cap for the Patriots, as Tom Brady
Speaker 1: well this year. So that that's why it was such
Speaker 1: a no brainer for the Patriots, Like that's obvious, But
Speaker 1: I think it's also a no brainer for Cam because
Speaker 1: I believe his main goal is to revive his career,
Speaker 1: and I really do think it's not me just being
Speaker 1: a homer that it's hard to imagine him finding a
Speaker 1: better situation right now, not just a path to play,
Speaker 1: but a path to potentially succeed and kind of restart
Speaker 1: the second half of his career after two really disappointing
Speaker 1: years for him. Yeah, I think a path to becoming
Speaker 1: Um a pretty uh easy pick for comeback Player of
Speaker 1: the Year if things if he's healthy and things went
Speaker 1: well and people are asking, you know, what kind of
Speaker 1: offense um will New England run? Well, all that can
Speaker 1: be sorted out. I think it's an awesome opportunity for
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels to show what he can do. UM, I
Speaker 1: agree with you, Greg, I'm first of all, this is
Speaker 1: what the Patriots do. No other team. UM. They say
Speaker 1: Cleveland made a call at one point about Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: but that didn't go very far that no other team
Speaker 1: here in late June uh inquired on any level about
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and the Patriots did. And if you had
Speaker 1: a healthy version of that player and what they can
Speaker 1: do on a team that, by the way, like everyone
Speaker 1: someone how bare bones the offenses. I just think that
Speaker 1: they'll I don't agree with that right now when you
Speaker 1: look at the roster, they are a team that, to
Speaker 1: me is a playoff team. If Cam Newton, if you
Speaker 1: get the good version of Cam Newton, no questions asked.
Speaker 1: I think you know, when I heard the new news,
Speaker 1: I was kind of ambivalent about it. I always whenever
Speaker 1: anything happens regarding the Patriots of the Jets, I get
Speaker 1: a bunch of like tweets like Dan anybody want to
Speaker 1: check on Dancy the endless check on filling the blank person?
Speaker 1: I know it's like man, and we're gonna have We're
Speaker 1: gonna do some winners and losers. Uh, the Cam Newton
Speaker 1: Newton signing after we talked to uh, mikey g But
Speaker 1: I think this was the other shoe that was eventually
Speaker 1: gonna drop. But we all expected it too, and maybe
Speaker 1: not a lot of teams are kicking the tires on Cam, UM,
Speaker 1: and I wonder why that is. And maybe that's a
Speaker 1: question will ask Mike, I do want to play Ricky?
Speaker 1: Do you have Steve which our buddy UM was on
Speaker 1: NFL Network talking about the signing and he and he
Speaker 1: had a nugget that was eyebrow raising, to say the least,
Speaker 1: about why some teams or most teams are all teams
Speaker 1: except for the Patriots. UM one reason why some teams
Speaker 1: were scared away. Let's listen to that. As I spoke
Speaker 1: to people from a handful of teams who said, not
Speaker 1: every team wants Cam's presence, whatever that means, whether it
Speaker 1: to be the scarves over the head, the fact that
Speaker 1: he is a big persona in their locker room, whether
Speaker 1: the coaches couldn't handle it, or maybe the youth or
Speaker 1: whatever the culture of their locker room couldn't necessarily deal
Speaker 1: with that. Especially Cam wasn't the starter. Well, as we know,
Speaker 1: the Patriots don't care about that stuff. The Patriots don't
Speaker 1: care about this stuff. And also Cam Newton, and that's
Speaker 1: another part of this, Greg and I know you wrote
Speaker 1: about this on NFL dot com. Can if he's healthy,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the starter. So if you were a
Speaker 1: team and and I don't buy into I buy into
Speaker 1: Wie's report. What I don't buy into is this idea
Speaker 1: that he was gonna be somebody was dragging a team
Speaker 1: down because of his person ownA. But the reason the
Speaker 1: Patriots makes so much sense is you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about plugging him in as a number two and
Speaker 1: then that becoming a soap opera behind the scenes or
Speaker 1: in the media. He's gonna be the starter. Jared Stidham
Speaker 1: is not gonna be at out of healthy Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: and Brian Hoyer might not even be on the team,
Speaker 1: right I. I I don't think that's a question it's about
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's health. But I do think it points to
Speaker 1: one reason why the Patriots sometimes have an edge over
Speaker 1: other teams, and they're they're not the only ones. I
Speaker 1: really believe they're not worried about everything else having to
Speaker 1: do with Cam because he's not going to be the leader,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichicks the leader, like like I know Tom Brady
Speaker 1: was the leader, but like there's only one of those
Speaker 1: guys still left. Like ultimately, that's his team and Cam
Speaker 1: Newton's gonna be part of it. And there's no reason
Speaker 1: to think with Cam Newton's competitiveness and leadership that basically
Speaker 1: every one of his former teammates talk about that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem anyways. But ultimately, like the Patriots
Speaker 1: have shown time and again, Randy Moss is another it.
Speaker 1: But like they're not gonna sweat that and they're not
Speaker 1: gonna be tied. And I think this is where they're
Speaker 1: different than some teams this offseason to some plan that
Speaker 1: they feel like that's the way they have to win
Speaker 1: the game, Like that's the way they have to be
Speaker 1: this season, Like Denver, like we're all in on Drew
Speaker 1: Lock and that's the only way we can win. No,
Speaker 1: the Patriots, they just want to figure out a way
Speaker 1: to have the best team. And it might be with
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham starting games this year, not that he's gonna
Speaker 1: beat him out just because it doesn't work out with Cam.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they believed with all their heart and
Speaker 1: Cam they wouldn't. They would have prevented him from signing
Speaker 1: with any other team if any other team had showed
Speaker 1: up over the last three months, but no one did.
Speaker 1: They just offered a minimum contract and figured, hey, it's
Speaker 1: worth a shot. Yes, they're gonna I I anticipate expect
Speaker 1: that Cam is gonna be their starter if he's right,
Speaker 1: but they're they're not locked into it. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: plans for if Jared Stidham is the starter too, because
Speaker 1: how could you not. They are always willing to adapt.
Speaker 1: And I thought this year they're gonna try to win
Speaker 1: with defense and their running game and their offensive line
Speaker 1: I think looks really good at least has a chance
Speaker 1: to be one of the better Patriots offensive lines that
Speaker 1: they've had, and that's how they're gonna win. And I
Speaker 1: do get a feeling like McDaniels, maybe this is a
Speaker 1: little bit off your point, but he's you know, there
Speaker 1: was rumors he wanted Lamar and then you know he's
Speaker 1: watching all these other teams like beat their defense and
Speaker 1: give them problems with the athletic guys, and and you
Speaker 1: do get I do wonder if McDaniels has been looking
Speaker 1: at that the last few years and getting a little itchy,
Speaker 1: you know, begin wanting to get that Tim Tebow playbook
Speaker 1: out from two thousand ten and say, hey, I was
Speaker 1: doing some things with with quarterbacks that really weren't like
Speaker 1: the greatest pastors of the world a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Give me Cam Newton, then we can fly. Well, weirdly enough,
Speaker 1: a lot of the Tim Tebow stuff came under John Fox.
Speaker 1: But I hear you on that, But no McDaniels was was, um,
Speaker 1: you know, calling the play, you know, calling the place
Speaker 1: for him, right well, he was dispatched as head coach
Speaker 1: at that point. But I but I I think that
Speaker 1: your point is he drafted Tim Tebow and knew that
Speaker 1: he'd have to deal with him in a different way,
Speaker 1: and he'd Cam Newton. Is that you could say, why
Speaker 1: didn't twenty and other teams going looking too, Cam Newton?
Speaker 1: This is the perfect fit for him with where we
Speaker 1: are right now with this team, I mean, and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a we simply lost faith in jared' stidham.
Speaker 1: It's just like, find out more about jared' stidham. But
Speaker 1: to me, it just advertises that any concept of Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick wanting to win with nothing at quarterback, you know,
Speaker 1: and our friend Chris Wesley made this point, um, you know,
Speaker 1: demonstrably a few times too that that that the other
Speaker 1: shoe had not dropped. And ultimately Bill Belichick is not
Speaker 1: taking a season off. I think his latter legacy later
Speaker 1: years with the Patriots matters incredibly to him. And this
Speaker 1: is a team now that if you get a good
Speaker 1: version of Cam could be twelve and four without skipping
Speaker 1: a beat and maybe outperformed Tom Brady. Why is it
Speaker 1: asking a lot for them to be twelve You ask
Speaker 1: me a lot? This is why it's asking a lot,
Speaker 1: because you're really going out on a limb to make
Speaker 1: that assumption that Cam Newton's healthy and that This is
Speaker 1: how the the NFL world reacts. This is a a
Speaker 1: marquee NFL team that is in a post Tom Brady world.
Speaker 1: So they're so fascinating. Cam Newton is one of the
Speaker 1: great superstars of the last ten years. So when they
Speaker 1: come together, there's this temptation just to be like, yep,
Speaker 1: all right, he's gonna be the Cam Newton everybody remembers.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are gonna go fifteen and one. Is Mark
Speaker 1: prodicted on Twitter yesterday but the reality of the situation,
Speaker 1: there's so much there's so much unknown right now, and
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason I'm an Bivalin is a
Speaker 1: jet spanner as a fan of a team in the
Speaker 1: a f C. So that's not the Patriots. Is that
Speaker 1: before I get all, you know, pupped up and all
Speaker 1: downtrodden about the Patriots going on another long run, we
Speaker 1: gotta see how this guy looks. Because he looked very
Speaker 1: good in the beginning of the twenty eighteen season, and
Speaker 1: they jacked up his shoulder and had a serious shoulder
Speaker 1: UH surgery, and then when he came back the next season,
Speaker 1: his feet gave out and you cannot underplay. And thirty
Speaker 1: one is not old as a quarterback back, which is
Speaker 1: what he is now in two thousand twenty. But when
Speaker 1: you talk about a shoulder injury and you talk about
Speaker 1: lower body injuries and the physical way he played the game,
Speaker 1: everyone's like dan Orloski is a guy we all respect.
Speaker 1: A Ton was talking about how um what he can
Speaker 1: bring Cam Newton to this offense is even though they
Speaker 1: don't have explosive players, his ability to run the football
Speaker 1: even things out for an offense that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of big time playmakers. We don't know if he's
Speaker 1: that guy anymore. So until we see him that way,
Speaker 1: that will judge how panicked I am and the rest
Speaker 1: of the a f C should be. I just think
Speaker 1: we're not there yet. No, that's that's fair. I said,
Speaker 1: if he's healthy, If you if you got Cam Newton
Speaker 1: playing sixteen games, the idea that the Patriots will be
Speaker 1: twelve and four, I'd be disappointed if they were eight
Speaker 1: and eate. If you get he could play, but he's
Speaker 1: still the same player. I mean there's a there is
Speaker 1: a in between there as well. There's also the guy
Speaker 1: the idea that everyone's overrating him, I I don't. I
Speaker 1: just H'm thinking, if you get the good version of
Speaker 1: Camp thirty one, other teams decided he wasn't worth it.
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's being overrated. He's signed a
Speaker 1: bare bones contract. I think the Patriots have a good
Speaker 1: chance to come out of this US thinking oh wow,
Speaker 1: they've done it again in the middle of December. I
Speaker 1: just don't think that's crazy. Reality. One other really interesting
Speaker 1: part of this, because everyone's gonna look at all the
Speaker 1: rosters that could have had Cam Newton as their backup
Speaker 1: slash feuding Carolina. They could have looked at it. But
Speaker 1: the problem is is that Cam and this is through
Speaker 1: no fault of his own, but he's almost too big
Speaker 1: a star. And I get why teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 1: who are a perfect example, everybody's like, how and Check
Speaker 1: is having a meltdown? How was Cam Newton not brought
Speaker 1: in to be Ben Roethlisberger's back up in his future
Speaker 1: the future of the franchise because Ben Roethlisberger can't have
Speaker 1: Cam Newton in the room. I mean, and maybe he can,
Speaker 1: but I totally get white. Teams will be like, this
Speaker 1: guy is too big. He's an m v P. He's
Speaker 1: larger than life. He's gonna bring in a ton of
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a media circus that we install him
Speaker 1: as the backup. And I think that played his big
Speaker 1: role as people just saying like, I don't think you
Speaker 1: could play anymore though, that's making decisions, scared, that's making decisions.
Speaker 1: And I think for Pittsburgh, actually I would disagree with Check.
Speaker 1: Bennett Roethlisberger is such a unique situation. Hall of famer
Speaker 1: who frankly, if you know, if he's healthy, is better
Speaker 1: than Cam or you know, certainly in the same ballpark.
Speaker 1: I would put that to the side. It's more of
Speaker 1: the teams with the young ones where the coaching staff
Speaker 1: or the young guy they felt like I couldn't handle it,
Speaker 1: which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. There
Speaker 1: is a real question, even as someone who's believed that
Speaker 1: Cam could be a Hall of Fame player, and you
Speaker 1: know he hasn't been to this point, like because he
Speaker 1: is a transformative guy. I've never seen a player like
Speaker 1: There is no there's never been a player like me.
Speaker 1: He looks like a defense eve end. He is. He
Speaker 1: was the greatest short yardage runner in the NFL for
Speaker 1: the last decade. That includes every running back. He was
Speaker 1: the biggest difference maker in the red zone inside the
Speaker 1: ten yard line of any player, Adrian Peterson, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: Cam made a bigger difference. And if you're not getting
Speaker 1: of that, and I think that's what you're getting to
Speaker 1: dan of, like is he going to be the same
Speaker 1: guy with you know, at post foot injury, then it
Speaker 1: is different. Now. I think he can still be good
Speaker 1: and even cent of Cam would be really interesting. And
Speaker 1: I think there's a real strong argument to make that
Speaker 1: he had a pretty bogus coaching staff for most of
Speaker 1: his career. I never believed in Mike Schula. He he
Speaker 1: you know, he hit aces for one season, but it
Speaker 1: fell apart right after. It wasn't that impressive before. And uh,
Speaker 1: I don't think they really knew what to do, and
Speaker 1: they didn't really know how to surround him. Whereas with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, the receivers aren't great, but you know, you
Speaker 1: just had worst groups. But the running game I think
Speaker 1: could be solid. The offensive line is good, and more importantly,
Speaker 1: the coaching game is good, but it is It is
Speaker 1: not unfair to point out Newton played seen and I
Speaker 1: went back and looked, you know, at my notes and
Speaker 1: QB index and stuff, and like he struggled those years
Speaker 1: and a lot of bad things happened around him. It
Speaker 1: was a coaching the injuries around him. But he was
Speaker 1: kind of a mid level quarterback. He was. He has
Speaker 1: not been a top ten quarterback other than that first
Speaker 1: half of two thousand and eighteen where he did look
Speaker 1: pretty good, you know, for a while, for five years.
Speaker 1: And so he's an X factor. He's always been an
Speaker 1: X factor. Um, But I also don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be that Cam, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: if the defense is good and the running games good
Speaker 1: and Belichick kind of can hide weaknesses and play to strength,
Speaker 1: It's like you can win games, just like I thought
Speaker 1: they could win games with Jared Stidham. I you know,
Speaker 1: I thought they were kind of co favorites maybe like
Speaker 1: one b uh. You can win games in different kind
Speaker 1: of ways, right. I I would trust Jared Stidham in
Speaker 1: New England ten times more than I would trust Jared
Speaker 1: Stidham in Jacksonville or somewhere else. And I feel that
Speaker 1: the issues that you had with Cam Newton's surrounding elements
Speaker 1: in Carolina wipe it off the board. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: literally he's going with the best play caller in the
Speaker 1: entire league and the best head coach, so well, like
Speaker 1: what about me, Bro, I think Josh has got to
Speaker 1: be you know, I wanted more information to ranks, but
Speaker 1: I think that you'd have to say, Josh McDaniels has
Speaker 1: proven as much as any human being could proved for
Speaker 1: that spot to argue for that spot, and I love
Speaker 1: the idea of him being paired with Cam. I think
Speaker 1: you guys are almost I'm surprised that you're almost a
Speaker 1: little more down on the move than I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hear it from Dan's I'm trying to
Speaker 1: admit that Dan's perspective makes sense that there is so
Speaker 1: much unknown. As a fan of Cam like I love,
Speaker 1: of course, and as a fan of the page, of course,
Speaker 1: I love it because I think the ceiling is outrageous
Speaker 1: for a guy who is available at this time. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just unprecedented. Even even of the ceiling is outstanding.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is like picking up Randy Moss
Speaker 1: for a fourth or fifth round pick. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: to play like Randy Moss for the move to make
Speaker 1: all the sense in the world, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like it the other side is outrage I have a
Speaker 1: sneaking suspicion the Patriots are gonna come out looking good
Speaker 1: in this move. That's just my intuition. Perhaps I'll be
Speaker 1: rowed they could. Ricky, what if I told you that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get of Cam Newton? Uh? Still take that
Speaker 1: over Jared Stidham or Brian Hoyer. I think you have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have my reservations about him in general,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll get into that in a little while,
Speaker 1: but I think at the end of the at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, yeah, it's just it's Cam Newton
Speaker 1: and like you don't like a font on his social media.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, I don't know, I think you know,
Speaker 1: I I am. I was excited. Yes, I think it's
Speaker 1: it's a good move and it's a little juice that
Speaker 1: they were lacking for sure. Definitely, absolutely, So I feel good,
Speaker 1: all right? Or over the Tom Brady thing now and
Speaker 1: you're moving forward as a fan? Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm not over the Tom Brady thing, but you know
Speaker 1: that did that? Did suthe the sting a little bit?
Speaker 1: So I'd ask you this, Cam Newton is has beating
Speaker 1: the Patriots twice in two appearances. How many times has
Speaker 1: Tom Brady felled New England? Zero? So advantage Cam right
Speaker 1: out of the gate. What are the odds that you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you went, you went from far to Roger,
Speaker 1: you know, far after Rogers and the couple of mbs.
Speaker 1: What are the odds that you go from Tom Brady
Speaker 1: to a quarterback that's better looking? Who would have thought
Speaker 1: that happens? I'm just yeah, I mean to each his own.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's an opinion, but you can you
Speaker 1: can make the argument. You can make. You can certainly
Speaker 1: make that argument. There's no job. Cam Newton is a
Speaker 1: hot man, but is he hotter than Tom Brady? I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's that's up for everyone's debate. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, anyway, that feels like a good time to
Speaker 1: get to. Mike Garafolo last him that as well. Let's
Speaker 1: welcome Mike on right now. Let's welcome him in. He
Speaker 1: is the hardest working man at NFL network, or at
Speaker 1: least in the top seven. Mike Garifolo joins us, Hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Around the NFL. Just ranking my okay,
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, Siciliano's in there. I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: give it the rappaport even though you don't want to. Um,
Speaker 1: you guys, do you guys got this one or what
Speaker 1: I have? I mean, you can get all our work
Speaker 1: together and count that's one body of work. Yeah. Mike
Speaker 1: Garifolo is also that he's doing the Pat Summer All
Speaker 1: thing now, where he's both host and analyst at once,
Speaker 1: which puts him in kind of rarefied air. So it's
Speaker 1: great to have. Yeah, listen, the more you can do, um,
Speaker 1: you know, it makes him harder. It makes it harder
Speaker 1: for them to to to get rid of you. If
Speaker 1: you get you know, your hands in and everything. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's but it's been fun. It's I noticed he
Speaker 1: didn't put like James Palmer on your list late you guys,
Speaker 1: you guess James Palmer. Did anybody work harder down the
Speaker 1: stretch last year? James, I wouldn't. I wouldn't use an
Speaker 1: example if it were trying. I've been trying the less
Speaker 1: you can do method and it's um the results are there.
Speaker 1: I love you, James Palmer. I know you're watching. Let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Mike Gara follow because you are as
Speaker 1: plugged in as anybody. When this news goes down on Sunday?
Speaker 1: Was that something that was bubbling and we haven't even
Speaker 1: gotten to the Patriots caught in another scandal and get
Speaker 1: punished for it? Uh storyline to this sixteen minutes apart
Speaker 1: the two news stories. But was this cam Newton to
Speaker 1: the Patriots thing something floating around behind the scenes or
Speaker 1: didn't kind of drop out of nowhere? I mean it
Speaker 1: was always kind of there. Um, But the timing of
Speaker 1: it was I would say one that not a lot
Speaker 1: of folks would have expected right around now, But um,
Speaker 1: you know it, a lot of this stuff is happening
Speaker 1: now that the virtual off season is over, because it's
Speaker 1: kind of been an awkward thing for a lot of
Speaker 1: people not realizing whether or not we're gonna have the O, T,
Speaker 1: A s and mini camps. And now that we're clear
Speaker 1: through that, it's like, Okay, everybody knows. You know, either
Speaker 1: we're reporting the training camp on time or this thing
Speaker 1: is gonna continue to get kicked down the road a
Speaker 1: little bit. But uh, now you at least had your
Speaker 1: clear direction about whether we're having a spring or not.
Speaker 1: So um, that's where it was for Cam Newton, whose
Speaker 1: other option, only other option, and this I've been mentioning,
Speaker 1: would have been to wait to see if a quarterback
Speaker 1: got injured and then be the uh the Sam Bradford
Speaker 1: for the Vikings, I'll via signing, not via trade, but
Speaker 1: but sametime trade. Don't forget but that that would have
Speaker 1: been the situation where you know, it would have been
Speaker 1: a little bit desperate, or a team would have been
Speaker 1: desperate and all of a sudden, maybe you get the
Speaker 1: number that you wanted to get. So it was either
Speaker 1: signed now for the Patriots pretty much walk in the
Speaker 1: starter as long as you're healthy, um, or you know,
Speaker 1: go the other route and and and sit there and
Speaker 1: wait and maybe somebody gets hurt at some point. Do
Speaker 1: you have any info on like what you think you
Speaker 1: might see in terms of the contract, because there hasn't
Speaker 1: really been details out there. I know Ian said up
Speaker 1: to seven point five, but I'm just curious because they
Speaker 1: you know, part of the reason I, you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't expect him was it was gonna take him being
Speaker 1: a minimum salary player for the Patriots to get him,
Speaker 1: unless they made some crazy move like trade Joe Tooney
Speaker 1: because they you know, supposedly they only had about a
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space entering this weekend. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's where the guarantee is going to be right around there. Um,
Speaker 1: and everything else on top of that is going to
Speaker 1: be starts. Uh, you know, performance wins. We have to
Speaker 1: see the breakdown. I haven't quite seen it yet, in
Speaker 1: in part because a lot of times these things don't
Speaker 1: get filed and sent in until they're officially signed, and
Speaker 1: we're not there. With Cam, he still got to take
Speaker 1: the physical um and and that was my question really
Speaker 1: was how did the Patriots make this move not knowing
Speaker 1: what to expect um from the physical standpoint. And my
Speaker 1: understanding is, you know they've gotten a read on it
Speaker 1: from afar Um. They still have to take their closed
Speaker 1: look and until that happens, they won't be announcing anything.
Speaker 1: But they are confident that they've got themselves. The Cam
Speaker 1: Newton from Okay because because and I've been saying this
Speaker 1: on the air today, I don't know that we're ever
Speaker 1: gonna see Cam ever again. But if you see teen Cam,
Speaker 1: this is a team that feels like now they could
Speaker 1: put themselves back in the championship conversation because he was playing,
Speaker 1: and that's obviously early before the wheels came off. It
Speaker 1: certainly sounds like Belichick's uh, you know, interviews with various
Speaker 1: people around the league, like Norv Turner had an influence
Speaker 1: on this too, on Cam Newton, the person, Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: the game prepare the whole eight to c But you know, Greg,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the the cap room. Here are there other
Speaker 1: dominoes to fall, Mike, where like you know, you brought
Speaker 1: in Cam, Um, they maybe still want to add some pieces,
Speaker 1: or have you heard anything about the Patriots making other
Speaker 1: moves that might draw headlines in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Not to this point because some you know, listen, the
Speaker 1: bigger the two big ones of the guys that have
Speaker 1: already been there, which is Josh Gordon and Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: And from what I gather, there are other teams involved
Speaker 1: right now that would make at least for Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: if they're confident in the off the field stuff, would
Speaker 1: probably make it more worth his while monetarily. So UM,
Speaker 1: I would be surprised at this point if that winds
Speaker 1: up being the case. But there, listen, there there'll be
Speaker 1: um that's via the free agent market. There will be
Speaker 1: opportunities to make trades for guys as it goes along,
Speaker 1: and Belichick has never been shy about doing that. So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if, uh, if that might be
Speaker 1: an option for them. But we've got to get back
Speaker 1: to work. I mean, like so much stuff that's on
Speaker 1: hold until we get back to work. Let's tackett no
Speaker 1: on what you just said about Antonio Brown, just because
Speaker 1: I'm curious, what what you think that there's teams out
Speaker 1: there that are gonna pay Antonio Brown decent money if
Speaker 1: he gets back into the league. Yeah, I do, because
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna have to, um, because this is
Speaker 1: a guy that's still and and listen, you think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be back. Basically, let's let's just do a hypothetical.
Speaker 1: Let's say the NFL has to spend them eight games.
Speaker 1: You think this guy, you think he's getting back into
Speaker 1: the NFL. I don't know that they're gonna suspend them
Speaker 1: eight games because and I know you're just throwing out
Speaker 1: a number, I get four whatever, right, But the tone
Speaker 1: in what Roger Goodell was saying about Antonio Brown when
Speaker 1: asked about him at the Super Bowl, I keep going
Speaker 1: back to that. It was not a punitive tone. It
Speaker 1: was a um, what's the word I'm looking for? It
Speaker 1: was all about really helping Antonio Brown as the person
Speaker 1: if he's willing to help himself. Basically rehabilitation. Yeah, rehabilitation,
Speaker 1: I guess is the word. I don't. I don't love
Speaker 1: using that word because you know it's tied to other
Speaker 1: things that Alden Smith was dealing with. And if you
Speaker 1: notice in the letter to Alden Smith um when he
Speaker 1: was reinstated, it was all about how the program can
Speaker 1: work for him, UM, and how he's shown that he
Speaker 1: wants to stay committed to it, and how he could
Speaker 1: be an example for other guys. Um. That was something
Speaker 1: that they communicated to him. So now it's all about,
Speaker 1: as see here, less about this UH program, this drug
Speaker 1: program and this other UH programs UH as a penalty
Speaker 1: for players, and more about something that can help them
Speaker 1: be better players and better people. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it sounds corny. I'm just I just the tone what
Speaker 1: I remember hearing that answer and saying whoa, That was
Speaker 1: not what I really expected and it was more of
Speaker 1: a forgiving tone to Roger Goodell. And and the other
Speaker 1: thing too, is these allegations against Antonio Brown, they have
Speaker 1: to be proven. You need a little bit more of
Speaker 1: he said, she said uh in in these cases. Richard
Speaker 1: Sherman had very strong words about the Cam Newton deal.
Speaker 1: He called it quote disgusting, which is obviously very strong language. Um,
Speaker 1: is that is that something thing? Are you surprised that
Speaker 1: someone that's been covering this league for so long how
Speaker 1: this is played out with Newton? And of course as
Speaker 1: long as you've been covering the league, you never had
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen to deal. So maybe it's just one of
Speaker 1: those timing situations. But there's also the questions of this contract,
Speaker 1: and I guess we're gonna get more details as they
Speaker 1: go along. But did Cam get anything else out of this,
Speaker 1: like maybe protection from being franchised if he ends up
Speaker 1: having a big season? What have you heard anything about
Speaker 1: the contract? And your thoughts about Richard Sherman's comments. Now,
Speaker 1: the Patriots have agreed to that before, so if he
Speaker 1: did get that, that wouldn't surprise me. We'll see once
Speaker 1: everything comes in. But um, it's it's I understand what
Speaker 1: Richard is saying, um, and I agree. I agree with
Speaker 1: it to a certain extent. Um. But I would say
Speaker 1: that the reason that teams didn't make this because because
Speaker 1: early on, let's go back early on a free agency,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton had a certain number in his head for
Speaker 1: what he was going to get. The problem is you need,
Speaker 1: uh what ballpark do you think I mean it was.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was in the twenty I mean that's
Speaker 1: what you know. Everybody knows. Top starter money right now
Speaker 1: is in the thirties, the low thirties, So I would
Speaker 1: say it would be in the twenties and you look
Speaker 1: at some of the guys making money in the twenties.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's sitting there saying I'm way better than
Speaker 1: these guys. UM, So I don't blame him for for
Speaker 1: for winning that. Now. It all comes down to situation
Speaker 1: and circumstance too, because uh, even Nick Foles, that's the
Speaker 1: one that people have kind of been holding up against, saying, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't the Bears bringing Cam Newton instead of Nick Foles.
Speaker 1: Nick Foles had to rework his contract. Okay, he had
Speaker 1: a big number left in the deal and they had
Speaker 1: to work it a way to spread it out so
Speaker 1: that it's it's not a huge number over the next
Speaker 1: three years. Um. And the other thing is they still
Speaker 1: have a guy in Chicago that they want to win
Speaker 1: the starting job. Make no mistake, the Bears would love
Speaker 1: Mitch Drobisky to win that job to continue as a
Speaker 1: quarterback because that's a guy that they've invested so much
Speaker 1: in and they want to be right in the end.
Speaker 1: They want to be right about Mitch Drabinsky. Whereas in
Speaker 1: this case with New England, it was an opportunity that
Speaker 1: presented itself because they really didn't rushed to go out
Speaker 1: and trade for Andy Dalton or signed Dalton once he
Speaker 1: became free, or plug somebody in. They they took their, uh,
Speaker 1: the more patient approach. Now I did ask this, I said,
Speaker 1: how how quickly did this thing come together with the Patriots?
Speaker 1: And I'm told that it came together really quickly, asterisk
Speaker 1: on that nobody knows how long. Belichick himself was kind
Speaker 1: of monitoring this by himself. So all along we've been
Speaker 1: talking about, Yeah, they seem like they're kind of we
Speaker 1: can't rule it out, you know they but but they're
Speaker 1: not making a strong push for Cam Newton is because
Speaker 1: Belichick was kind of monitoring it the whole time and
Speaker 1: probably waiting to the point where Newton said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'll take this deal because you know what, I can
Speaker 1: come in and I could play for the best coach
Speaker 1: in the league and re established myself, show everybody I'm
Speaker 1: healthy and now I can hit a big number next offseason.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a note out there from Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter that the Browns those words here. I mean, if
Speaker 1: if Ian was on the show right now, he would
Speaker 1: have just blast you into space. But even with Mike,
Speaker 1: it can be well, another news man out there offered
Speaker 1: this up that the Browns had looked into Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: which the timing, you know it needs to be unpacked,
Speaker 1: would have happened after they signed case Keenum if you
Speaker 1: go by the time when the Panthers said goodbye to
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, which I find to be an interesting wrinkle
Speaker 1: now I was. I was also told at some point
Speaker 1: by Andrew Berry, uh because I was asking about something
Speaker 1: and had a conversation with him at some point and
Speaker 1: he said, you don't like where I'm in on everything?
Speaker 1: And he worked with Howie Roseman, who is in on everything.
Speaker 1: You ever noticed how many times the Eagles are linked
Speaker 1: to a player because they're in on everything, because you
Speaker 1: just never know what you're gonna come up with if
Speaker 1: you investigate. So I believe it was more along those
Speaker 1: lines and Berry being new on the job. There there's
Speaker 1: like many other teams tree, but the buglets is from
Speaker 1: the Eagles tree. That's why I picked up the phone
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys called, come on, Jamal, And that's a
Speaker 1: smart teams do I think I think they wouldn't It
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been. It might have been smart for the
Speaker 1: Jets to be in on Cam Newton. That's the type
Speaker 1: of team where I mean it where it's like you're
Speaker 1: being a little afraid of making a good move. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have a plan, you want to work your Chicago.
Speaker 1: You want this plan that is not working. According to
Speaker 1: our eyesight, it must work, and so you don't go
Speaker 1: out and get the better quarterback. I think that's why
Speaker 1: two thirds of the league are not competitive with New England,
Speaker 1: and I think it's important. Yeah, I just want to
Speaker 1: say to Greg's point, the Jets love Sam Donald. Greg,
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't seem to like him so much him.
Speaker 1: You have to understand that. My point is having right,
Speaker 1: But they have to at least maybe they don't, but
Speaker 1: they have to live in a world where there's other,
Speaker 1: you know options A Donald can get hurt, but be like,
Speaker 1: what do we do if we're six games into the
Speaker 1: season and it's going terribly Like have other routes to
Speaker 1: maybe possibly and just be open to, you know, open
Speaker 1: to like would he come in for two millions? But no,
Speaker 1: I can get why Joe Douglas would not be confident
Speaker 1: in Adam Gates to handle that situation. Since then that's
Speaker 1: sort of That's what I mean. You have to play
Speaker 1: afraid when you're not confident in your own building. I
Speaker 1: would I would just go back to what Richard Chairman
Speaker 1: was upset about and what other folks might be saying about. Well,
Speaker 1: how did the Patriots let this happen? Could you imagine?
Speaker 1: I mean, gole, let's stick with the Jets. Let's stick
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Go back to Tim Tebow coming in
Speaker 1: behind Mark Sanchez. If you don't think that was a
Speaker 1: net negative effect on Sanchez? Really like this circus exactly? Well?
Speaker 1: And what was the line? One one time Sanchez let
Speaker 1: his guard down. It was like on a Friday, and
Speaker 1: that it got a little bit of attention. He said, um, oh,
Speaker 1: selling seats. Somebody asked him about Tebow and he's like
Speaker 1: selling seats, man like basically saying it was it was
Speaker 1: a promotional thing. And you could see the frustration on
Speaker 1: his face when he said that, and it was just
Speaker 1: a little peek into of course, he didn't want this
Speaker 1: side show with him out. But they both weren't that
Speaker 1: great at playing quarterback, and that would have been true
Speaker 1: no matter what. And so you just need to find
Speaker 1: a quarterback that that is good at playing quarterback and
Speaker 1: have have options and not not be afraid maybe it
Speaker 1: didn't make sense for for this Jets team in particular,
Speaker 1: but I just mean in general, like, why be afraid
Speaker 1: of winning different types of ways having other plans if
Speaker 1: you're a plan is not working. And listen, Uh, Belichick
Speaker 1: is not afraid in ways that other coaches are afraid, right, So,
Speaker 1: and and they could still I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: low guarantee contract. Theoretically, Jared Stidham could still beat out
Speaker 1: Cam Newton Cam Newton for this starting job. But as
Speaker 1: I described it on the air earlier, my belief, based
Speaker 1: on the conversations that I have had, uh since this
Speaker 1: thing went down, is it's Cam versus Cam. If Cam
Speaker 1: comes in and is healthy and shows that he can
Speaker 1: play good football again, it's it's Cam in a runaway.
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Despite the fact that now
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to tweak your offense, okay, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do it in a year where you
Speaker 1: didn't have a spring and you're gonna have maybe not
Speaker 1: maybe you're definitely gonna have some kind of abbreviated training
Speaker 1: camp and maybe uh two to no preseason games. So
Speaker 1: this is a team that's not afraid to do that
Speaker 1: because they've done it for twenty years now. Granted they
Speaker 1: did it with Brady at quarterback, but the point is
Speaker 1: they trusted the guys around Brady to be able to
Speaker 1: make those adjustments, and not only year to year, week
Speaker 1: to week and quarter to quarter, drive to drive, be
Speaker 1: able to make these adjustments if something's not working, scraped
Speaker 1: the game plan and let's go back to some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that maybe we haven't done since training camp.
Speaker 1: That's why the timing thing is is crucial because they
Speaker 1: now have this month to to get that offense ready,
Speaker 1: and of course they're going to be planning like an
Speaker 1: offense into Richard Sermon's initial point. I think we've talked
Speaker 1: about this. Kim has had a lot of bad luck.
Speaker 1: I think in his career. He certainly has with the
Speaker 1: injuries the last couple of years. This offseason was bad
Speaker 1: luck to be any quarterback looking for a job. I
Speaker 1: mean Andy Dalton getting If you had told me at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the officin Andy Dalton was gonna sign
Speaker 1: for two or three million, I would have been shocked
Speaker 1: by that. Now, Cam, I think is another level. But
Speaker 1: if you look back four or five off seasons ago,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of off seasons where Sam Bradford coming
Speaker 1: off an injuries the bell of the ball at quarterback
Speaker 1: and there's seven teams looking or Kevin Cobbs the bell
Speaker 1: of the ball and teams are gonna give up picks
Speaker 1: for a brock Oswilder's gonna get them with like three
Speaker 1: teams going after, whereas this year there was only like
Speaker 1: there's almost no teams looking for quarterbacks and they're actually
Speaker 1: where decent players available. I think it was all combined
Speaker 1: to to hurt Cam. You gotta mention Mike Glennon there too.
Speaker 1: That's actually the best example. I blew it, Mike. What
Speaker 1: are you doing? Um? Fourth of July and Jersey in
Speaker 1: a very strange year. Uh, well, we're gonna be down
Speaker 1: the shore, but I'm trying to think we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a I'll keep it to the bare minimum facts. We
Speaker 1: are going to have a baby review. Um, which I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: thank you, I'm sorry I didn't allow you guys to
Speaker 1: break that one again. Awesome the first time around, you
Speaker 1: guys had our corner. We got about that. I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta spread it out. I got a lot of
Speaker 1: mouse to feed, So we're gonna do a baby reveal
Speaker 1: over the weekend. We're just trying to figure out where
Speaker 1: and how is there gonna be like a like a
Speaker 1: like a gun involved, you know, where like steamers come
Speaker 1: out of the gun, not a real gun, but like
Speaker 1: people get pretty crazy with this stuff. Now. Uh, we're
Speaker 1: working on it. We're working on it. Did we lose
Speaker 1: Did we lose that? What's happening? He is he is returning?
Speaker 1: Are you you're only an audio program, Mike. Just roll
Speaker 1: with the punches here, Mike, you're not one of the people.
Speaker 1: You know, this is happening on both coastlines um that
Speaker 1: have just been setting off fireworks every night since like
Speaker 1: May eight. Are you just that something that I could
Speaker 1: pin on you? Or is that not not accurate? No, No,
Speaker 1: that's not okay. I'm just trying to figure out who's
Speaker 1: doing it. We've kind of guilty with this. We've we've
Speaker 1: we've had it and I had a couple of things
Speaker 1: rattling around my head right now. That's fine, and neither
Speaker 1: one of them do I actually want to say? So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna plead the fifth on this one to
Speaker 1: text you offline. How about that? Okay? Mike Gara, Folo,
Speaker 1: thank you? So much for joining us. Congratulations on another child,
Speaker 1: by the way, we well, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: But I like to preach accountability. I gotta follow my sword.
Speaker 1: I've been itching to get back on here with you guys,
Speaker 1: because I think I left you the last time with
Speaker 1: Gregg asking me. We were in Indianapolis, and he said,
Speaker 1: is Philip Rivers gonna wind up the quarterback of the Colts?
Speaker 1: And I got too cute because I knew that they
Speaker 1: had already had talks with the Jaguars about Nick Folks.
Speaker 1: So I said to you, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: think it might be another veteran quarterback. And I didn't
Speaker 1: lead on about who it might be, and they did.
Speaker 1: In the end it was Rivers falls, Rivers fault, and
Speaker 1: they decided let's just go with Rivers and not go
Speaker 1: up any draft pick compensation. But that's been eating at
Speaker 1: me because it was right there I had to do
Speaker 1: and say, yes. Nobody would remember, but I bet you
Speaker 1: more people remember that I said no, So none of us,
Speaker 1: none of us would have remembered what your first answer was.
Speaker 1: But that is why year a pro that's why you've
Speaker 1: gotten to where you are. Things like that keep you
Speaker 1: up at night. Thank you for clearing that up, Mike,
Speaker 1: and enjoy the time with the family and we love
Speaker 1: having you with us. Alright, Pwice, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Happy for thanks Mike. Bye bye. See
Speaker 1: there he goes Mike Gara, Folo, gender reveal. I just
Speaker 1: missed that. I think that really got big right after Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it doesn't mean everyone has to
Speaker 1: or well I can. I would never do that. She
Speaker 1: just would not be into it. Yeah, they did it
Speaker 1: on our show. Yeah they did. Remember they poured the
Speaker 1: wine and it was blue. I don't think you know,
Speaker 1: Lakeisha was very organized on the pregnancy front. I don't
Speaker 1: think you were getting through that process without a gender reveal.
Speaker 1: And that was a big moment. Gender reveals were invented
Speaker 1: for Lakisha Jackson Westling to have a child. Basically, Um,
Speaker 1: all right, let us get to some winners losers. Wrap
Speaker 1: up this Cam Newton conversation with some winners and losers.
Speaker 1: I'll start that. I'll start it out. Maybe we'll share
Speaker 1: one or two each a winner. The Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: playing chess while the world is playing checkers. Mob, I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody was wow. The Pats have done it again. Well,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that's the same thing with the
Speaker 1: Patriots drafting Tom Brady with the overall pick. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just things work out in your favor, and the and
Speaker 1: the and I don't think the Patriots. The Patriots were smart.
Speaker 1: They would have they would have gotten this guy a
Speaker 1: long time ago and not risked waiting all this time,
Speaker 1: because they really would have been a very good chance.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, unless you really think Jarge Stidham is
Speaker 1: going to develop into a player, there was a real
Speaker 1: chance that Pats are gonna be caught with their pants
Speaker 1: down this season. They wouldn't have got him for one
Speaker 1: million dollars, which they had. I mean, well, if you're
Speaker 1: saying that, like, if this is a quarterback position, the
Speaker 1: most important important position on the field, if they really
Speaker 1: knew thought they needed Cam Newton, wouldn't they have found
Speaker 1: a way that they didn't think they need Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: I think to me, that's that's my takeaway a lot
Speaker 1: with Patriots me. And that's why, like I'm making the
Speaker 1: case for the Bronchers. Just the point isn't that you
Speaker 1: need Cam Newton. The point is, let's just try to
Speaker 1: get better. Um, oh, you know your way off that
Speaker 1: You're right, he would They were ready to go into
Speaker 1: the season with Stidham. They still they still would be
Speaker 1: because they were prepared obviously for any team if they
Speaker 1: had wanted to to sign Cam Newton at any point.
Speaker 1: But at this point it's like you stopped looking, you know,
Speaker 1: you stop ignoring value at the at the behest of
Speaker 1: like whatever they were planning. It's it's such a different
Speaker 1: situation though. I mean to say that the Patriots situation,
Speaker 1: and you can compare the Patriots and the Jets, you
Speaker 1: can't because the Patriots had a clear need at starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: uh and the page and the Jets, and I think
Speaker 1: Mike was getting to that point as well. If if
Speaker 1: their guy is Sam Donald and they bring into a
Speaker 1: star like Cam Newton in there, that creates not just
Speaker 1: makes a roster better, but at what cost? And that
Speaker 1: that's why I think the Patriots it was a slam
Speaker 1: dunck move for them because it makes them better and
Speaker 1: it doesn't have any of that negative stuff that would
Speaker 1: have come with you do you signed with the Jets
Speaker 1: of the Steelers or whoever else. But the only thing,
Speaker 1: I mean, your your initial point was that everyone suggesting
Speaker 1: that Belichick plays chess while everyone else is learning how
Speaker 1: to play checkers still, but he is, and he has
Speaker 1: been for a long I mean, are you actually saying
Speaker 1: that that's not what building I'm saying. I'm saying this
Speaker 1: was a no brainer for the Patriots. They should have
Speaker 1: done they though I don't think they had. I do
Speaker 1: think that there's something to what Greg is saying about
Speaker 1: the fact that like it wasn't like there was a
Speaker 1: stress um in a in an element of panic to
Speaker 1: adding Cam Newton to the roster. I think they waited
Speaker 1: until the price was right. Um there a cap strap
Speaker 1: team and no other team acted, so it became more
Speaker 1: and more of reality. I don't think it was a
Speaker 1: master plan to do that either, but the timing now fits,
Speaker 1: and I think three months ago people did not know
Speaker 1: where we were with Cam Newton's health even more than today.
Speaker 1: There was information gathering. I don't know how much more
Speaker 1: we know now than we did three months ago about
Speaker 1: how well we've seen him working. There's you know, and
Speaker 1: what was built. Bill Belichick knows more than the media
Speaker 1: does if he's talking to people around Cam Newton. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think it's a little it's
Speaker 1: underheaded to have the viewpoint that only Bill Belichick saw
Speaker 1: that Cam Newton could make his team better when there
Speaker 1: were a lot of different factors that came into play
Speaker 1: that allowed this to play out this way. But that's
Speaker 1: just mine. How about who's got another one? Well, I
Speaker 1: would give you a loser. And it's similar to what
Speaker 1: you're talking about a little bit, Dan, that we're about
Speaker 1: a month away probably from a devastating quarterback injury to occur.
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of the league, and
Speaker 1: you know, we would be great to find out where
Speaker 1: people were on Cam Newton, how close any teams really
Speaker 1: got to signing him. But it seemed to be that
Speaker 1: Cam Newton got slotted into the someone just going to
Speaker 1: sign them, making their starter when you know, quarterback a
Speaker 1: goes down because all these teams didn't want to deal
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton the backup create and all the business
Speaker 1: we've talked about, the drama. I mean, that kind of
Speaker 1: planning is now out the window because I really actually
Speaker 1: completely agree with Greg's take that Can Newton being added
Speaker 1: to the right side of team just makes that quarterbook
Speaker 1: back room looks so much better and all these teams
Speaker 1: with if he's situations avoided it and now he is gone,
Speaker 1: He's gone to the team that he's going to thrive with.
Speaker 1: Most so I all these other teams the past, I
Speaker 1: think are going to be a talking point all season long.
Speaker 1: And I'd start with the Panthers because I like Matt
Speaker 1: Rule a ton, but I think that there was an
Speaker 1: element of if you really want a fresh start in Carolina,
Speaker 1: does it make sense to start over with like the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Matt Rule is the leader of that team, not Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: And the split, which was very messy, happened very quickly.
Speaker 1: It was tough. It would have been tough there. But
Speaker 1: but I I also think he would fit into that
Speaker 1: Matt Rule system. I'll throw some winners. How about NFL
Speaker 1: fans who were you know seeing the Patriots in prime
Speaker 1: time four or five times? Because that was a bit
Speaker 1: of a risk here, and so if you if you
Speaker 1: have a cam in prime time, Um, that's a lot
Speaker 1: more exciting. How about a winner Jewel Julian Edelman, Um,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know necessarily, like, hey, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get more balls with with Cam Newton or not. But
Speaker 1: I do think the Patriots are seen, and this is
Speaker 1: where I'm being a homer. I don't think the receivers
Speaker 1: are as disastrous as kind of it's been painted. Now.
Speaker 1: If most of new looks like he did last year
Speaker 1: when he played through a high ankle spraying the second
Speaker 1: he got there, that could be part of it. And
Speaker 1: if Nakil Harry is a total bust, which feels like
Speaker 1: it's on the table because it was a disconcer disconcerting
Speaker 1: first year out of a first round pick, like I
Speaker 1: get it. But Edelman s new Harry a couple of
Speaker 1: rookie tight ends. I don't know. I've seen, I've seen
Speaker 1: worst wide receiver groups, and I do think Edelman fits
Speaker 1: pretty well with Cam Newton, who throws well up the seams.
Speaker 1: I would take issue with the primetime thing a little
Speaker 1: bit because I think that there was there would have
Speaker 1: been an audience, a national audience script by the idea
Speaker 1: of Jared Stidham rolled out there and we want to
Speaker 1: watch it burn, right, So if they're just gonna be
Speaker 1: a playoff team with Cam Newton, but it's just fascinating,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Even if you're a relatively and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of Cam Newton fans who hate the Patriot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who just like watching Cam
Speaker 1: Newton play football, including me, who aren't Patriots fans. They're
Speaker 1: just kind of like, all right, this will be fun.
Speaker 1: You know, let's watch this. If we got a Stidham
Speaker 1: Hoyer poopoo platter and neither guy could play, Uh that
Speaker 1: that kind of enjoyment of watching the Patriots fall flat
Speaker 1: would probably wear off by the time they were two
Speaker 1: and five and they had five playoffs. They have five
Speaker 1: prime time games scheduled right now your house. I think
Speaker 1: you would enjoy that wire to wire. I don't think
Speaker 1: you'd be bored. I probably would, but yeah I would.
Speaker 1: I would probably enjoy it all season long. But also
Speaker 1: like every feels that way too after the last few years.
Speaker 1: I mean they're early schedule two is tough. I mean
Speaker 1: they're they're toughest games, you know with the Chiefs, and
Speaker 1: some of them are all early in the season. A
Speaker 1: big winner is the shamelessness meter for the Patriots. It
Speaker 1: busted past the ten meter and it's all the way
Speaker 1: up to twelve. Now. It's just it bursted with it
Speaker 1: burst with the announcement sixteen minutes apart, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: sixteen minutes apart the announcement of the Cam Newton Newton signing,
Speaker 1: sixteen minutes before the Adam Schefter report that the Patriots
Speaker 1: were fined one point one million dollars and we'll lose
Speaker 1: their third round pick for filming the Bengals sideline in
Speaker 1: connection to one of their team produced shows playing the game.
Speaker 1: That is, I mean it is. Listen, I'm not even
Speaker 1: the publications it is. I'm not even mad. But this
Speaker 1: organization they just they and you gotta you gotta give
Speaker 1: give it to them. And I will say, just like
Speaker 1: because somebody's got to say it. It's just the latest
Speaker 1: in what's been a major part of this what this
Speaker 1: legacy is for this organization. I'm sorry. You could have
Speaker 1: the greatest code and the greatest quarterback and all the rings,
Speaker 1: but this is now, by my account, the fourth major
Speaker 1: scandal connected to this team, and then a myriad of
Speaker 1: smaller ones. But you had a spy Gate No. Seven,
Speaker 1: you had the a f C Championship game to flake
Speaker 1: Gate in fourteen. This videotape scandal is not nearly at
Speaker 1: that same level. But again they got busted for it,
Speaker 1: and it's a substantial fine, and the draft pick that
Speaker 1: has a lot of value in patriot Land. I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna get into walk through gate in two thousand
Speaker 1: two before the first Super Bowl, but it's part of
Speaker 1: their story and it should not be ignored. I know
Speaker 1: that everyone acts like this latest thing was. I think
Speaker 1: there's a fair amount of exhaustion when when you hear
Speaker 1: a news story about the Patriots you're doing something with
Speaker 1: a video camera anywhere, You're just like, al right, But
Speaker 1: I mean to me, if the league decided that the
Speaker 1: penalty for what they um before the wrong was a
Speaker 1: third round pick in one million dollars, what today? What
Speaker 1: are they claiming behind this behind closed doors happened here?
Speaker 1: Is it not similar suspects suspicious behavior that looks like
Speaker 1: other Patriots taping issues, because if it is, shouldn't the
Speaker 1: penalty have been wholly different than this. I don't understand
Speaker 1: where they here's the investigation. We've come up with the
Speaker 1: idea that they've done this and it's only worth a
Speaker 1: third round pick, and you know, like eight pennies out
Speaker 1: of Robert Kraft's pocket. Uh, I need to know more.
Speaker 1: I I think part of it that, at least in
Speaker 1: the reasoning that you heard, you know, back when they
Speaker 1: were investigating it, is that they're gonna get punished extra
Speaker 1: for any infraction because they were a repeat offender essentially
Speaker 1: in doing this. So maybe if it was a team
Speaker 1: that had never done it before, it would have been
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just nothing or this is Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw the third round pick and I as a
Speaker 1: I'm I was surprised. I'm surprised more isn't being made
Speaker 1: of it in the cam news. Is certainly reason? Is
Speaker 1: there certainly a reason why? Because the third round pick
Speaker 1: is significant. You know, um, this was kind of brushed
Speaker 1: off pretty quickly, and if you look into what was happening,
Speaker 1: you know, no one has a hard take of like
Speaker 1: what it really meant. But a third round pick is
Speaker 1: a big loss. No one's given away third round picks
Speaker 1: just for fun. I mean, that's that's like, that's those
Speaker 1: are very valuable picks. And anyone who's followed the NFL
Speaker 1: that has a pulse knows that part of the reason
Speaker 1: the Patriots have stayed great all these years is because
Speaker 1: they make the most of those mid round picks many times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Just for the record, the spy gates scandaled Bellichick
Speaker 1: got fan find half a million. The Patriots got found
Speaker 1: tifty thousand dollars, and they lost their first round pick
Speaker 1: in the two thousand eight draft to flate gate. It
Speaker 1: was a million dollars for the team, and they gave
Speaker 1: up their first and fourth round picks in seventeen respectively.
Speaker 1: And now this year it is I guess the highest
Speaker 1: finally faced. And maybe it's just a pattern, maybe it's
Speaker 1: basic inflation or just a pattern of escalating behavior. But
Speaker 1: one point one million and the forfeiture of the third
Speaker 1: round pick, Ricky, this is the team you root for.
Speaker 1: Immediately afterwards, they fell apart in their offense? Was there?
Speaker 1: So maybe it was that was bad juju? How do
Speaker 1: you sleep? I'm wondering, I've wondered that. No, it's it's upsetting,
Speaker 1: it's it's not a good look for sure, Ricky, do
Speaker 1: you want to I know you had another thought of Kim,
Speaker 1: might as well share it. Now that's something that's giving
Speaker 1: you pause here. I just I just feel like the
Speaker 1: way that he, you know, reacted to that um female
Speaker 1: reporter saying it's funny. How to hear a female talk
Speaker 1: about routes? To me? Is it's bugged? Me since the
Speaker 1: day it happened. And to stand behind someone where, especially
Speaker 1: if you're coming to play for a for a new
Speaker 1: England team, where that fan base you say all you want,
Speaker 1: but like we give everything to our team, like it's
Speaker 1: such a homer place and like for me, it's like
Speaker 1: you expect half of just females in general in the
Speaker 1: Boston area to stand behind you and be like, oh cool,
Speaker 1: like this is I don't know, it's just it's really
Speaker 1: what we want to play for people that might have
Speaker 1: forgotten what Camp sling a couple years ago. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You take a lot of pride in seeing your receivers
Speaker 1: playing well. Devin Funches just seemed to really embrace the
Speaker 1: physicality of his routes and and making getting those extra
Speaker 1: yards because that give you a little bit of an
Speaker 1: enjoyment to see him kind of trust speaking people out.
Speaker 1: It's funny to hear female talk about routes like it's funny.
Speaker 1: But yeah, not not Camp's finest moment. But you come
Speaker 1: on it. Maybe you just had a maybe had a
Speaker 1: bad day. You're gonna give him a pass on that
Speaker 1: or is that it for him? Yeah? I mean I'm
Speaker 1: not it's not all of a sudden, like, oh, canceled
Speaker 1: culture is so stupid, blah blah blah. But it's like
Speaker 1: if you're on a podium where you know, like you're
Speaker 1: blatantly have that much disrespect to embarrass someone who asked
Speaker 1: a very legitimate, great question. Um, it's not that's not him,
Speaker 1: you know, locker room talk and he said that like
Speaker 1: he was on a stage with cameras everywhere, and he
Speaker 1: literally decided to do that. So to me, it's it's
Speaker 1: of course, you know, it could have just been a
Speaker 1: bad day, but I it's not cool. No, it's it
Speaker 1: was if I can I'm trying to think. But like
Speaker 1: I've almost never had a problem with stuff Kim's done
Speaker 1: off the field, and that was a low That was
Speaker 1: like a low moment for him. That was a very
Speaker 1: low moment for him. I mean, but the fan base
Speaker 1: is gonna be into him if he plays well and
Speaker 1: not if he doesn't. Mean Tom Brady wants you know,
Speaker 1: I was trying to sell that water could help you
Speaker 1: with concussions and stuff. It's like it's like people can
Speaker 1: say some crazy stuff. I'm more interested. It's like the
Speaker 1: Patriots having had a black quarterback in my lifetime that
Speaker 1: was like a starter, which is interesting, you know, to me,
Speaker 1: it's different and it's it's it's definitely different in that region,
Speaker 1: and I think it'll be exciting. And and a quarterback
Speaker 1: who's you know, his personality, He's got a big personality
Speaker 1: and winning, winning is gonna he's gonna make that all
Speaker 1: go fine. And if they're not winning and he's playing,
Speaker 1: then then it'll be you know, fascinating to watch. That's
Speaker 1: a big part of it is what will his personality
Speaker 1: be in New England will be tempered at all? Because
Speaker 1: I don't think the sorry, sorry, right, I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I don't freewheeling press conferences are probably in the past.
Speaker 1: Um uh to your pleasure, Erika too. I wonder about that.
Speaker 1: I had that on my loser's list. Um, Cam's fledgling
Speaker 1: new hieroglyphics language. Um. I wonder if this is a
Speaker 1: one year contract. And Cam is a guy who's whose
Speaker 1: career and the way he's played, he plays with a
Speaker 1: lot of passion. He's a very colorful guy. Um. He
Speaker 1: is almost exactly the the opposite of what the quote
Speaker 1: unquote Patriots Way players should be like. And I know
Speaker 1: they've brought in big personalities in the past, but also
Speaker 1: we've we've heard from prominent players before that's that went
Speaker 1: to New England and said I didn't like it there.
Speaker 1: There is also a scenario where Cam plays well and
Speaker 1: decides maybe at this place isn't for me, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take this leverage of getting my career back on
Speaker 1: track and I'm gonna go sign elsewhere. So there's there's
Speaker 1: there is a bit of assumption here that not only
Speaker 1: was this a perfect signing for the Pats, but he's
Speaker 1: gonna be healthy and be a star and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be their quarterback for another seven years. Like that, I
Speaker 1: think you wouldn't look past this season, but it is
Speaker 1: a perfect springboard potentially for Cam Newton. No, I think
Speaker 1: that's a good point that even if he plays well Dan,
Speaker 1: that he might not be the long term quarterback because
Speaker 1: he's gonna have options and he's not gonna um necessarily
Speaker 1: be that cheap. The thing I would say, in terms
Speaker 1: of the Patriot Way that was like they've had a
Speaker 1: million colorful characters and Mike talked about him talking to
Speaker 1: North Turner and stuff. It's like, if they want guys
Speaker 1: that are ultra competitive and like love football to their core.
Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone's ever questioned that with Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: And it's different. It's different when your quarterback is is
Speaker 1: out there and is a little different. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's you know, they shouldn't have questioned
Speaker 1: that with Cam Newton, and I think that's why they
Speaker 1: feel like it's a good fit. While we're talking quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: should should have fallen on that ball in Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 1: But yeah, otherwise I do you're saying I lose her here, um,
Speaker 1: you know those of us on Stidham Corner here back.
Speaker 1: But for me, I love Cam Newton far more than
Speaker 1: I've ever loved being on Stidham corner. And I do
Speaker 1: think to your point about Cam Newton that it might be, um,
Speaker 1: you know, one year thing. It's like a there's a
Speaker 1: there's a decent chance you'll see Stidham this year anyways,
Speaker 1: possibly for a lot of the year. I mean, we
Speaker 1: just don't know. Um, with Cam Newton's health and then
Speaker 1: and then being like he's a second year, fourth round pick,
Speaker 1: it's very possible that he's in the mix like at
Speaker 1: a later date. There's just not much reason to believe,
Speaker 1: as Mike said, as anything logical. It said that when
Speaker 1: we're reading these quarterback battles in August, and we will,
Speaker 1: it's like, there will be no reason to think that
Speaker 1: a healthy Kim Newton is not their starter. It's like,
Speaker 1: how is Jared Stidham gonna be a better player than
Speaker 1: Kim Newton right now? Come on? But all the reporting
Speaker 1: also talks about how they to your point, they've not
Speaker 1: given up on Jared Stidham, and I think it's actually
Speaker 1: just a better situation to find out who Jaron Stidham
Speaker 1: is um in another year to develop. He's not a
Speaker 1: first round guy. I don't think he didn't draft him
Speaker 1: to think he's the heir apparent to Tom Brady. I
Speaker 1: have one more loser, And Greg, you alluded to it
Speaker 1: that the Bills a f C East favorite status. Actually
Speaker 1: saw tweet right before the show started. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's a Vegas wide, Desert wide thing, but the
Speaker 1: Patriots are now slight favorites in the ANFC East after
Speaker 1: the Cam Newton signing, which maybe is the best thing
Speaker 1: could happen to the Bills, who now probably don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about falling into that trap of expectations being
Speaker 1: so high. It's not easy to be the favorite, especially
Speaker 1: if you don't have any experience with it. Um and
Speaker 1: now the Patriots, I think there will be a lot
Speaker 1: of people, especially if Cam looks good. Uh if and
Speaker 1: when there's a training camp, the Bills get to kind
Speaker 1: of go back to that. You know, we're hunting for
Speaker 1: the division child rather than people, and it was wrong
Speaker 1: to do it in the first place, but you kind
Speaker 1: of were getting the feeling of people are handing in
Speaker 1: that title. So um, yes, the favorite status is over,
Speaker 1: but that might actually be a good thing for the Bills.
Speaker 1: I think it is a good thing. Also, there is
Speaker 1: definitely a like a hipster movement um afoot also where
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't really care what New England did,
Speaker 1: Buffalo is still running away with this division head entails
Speaker 1: nothing like Colleen likes the Bills. It is. It's at
Speaker 1: least it makes it makes ANFCS more you know interesting,
Speaker 1: just at quarterback. It's so much more, um interesting than
Speaker 1: it was a few years ago. I'm not down on
Speaker 1: Donald because he throws. He's the guy the type of
Speaker 1: guy usually fall for that he makes three throws every
Speaker 1: play every game that like almost no one could make.
Speaker 1: To me, he's just a total wild card where the
Speaker 1: ceiling is so high and the floor, you know, might
Speaker 1: be fairly low still, and then you have to and
Speaker 1: then you have Josh Allen who makes people crazy. But
Speaker 1: to me, in the best case scenario, he's a poor
Speaker 1: man's Cam Newton. And then you actually have Cam Newton. Right,
Speaker 1: that's nice, Fitzpatrick. Don't forget about our favorite We got
Speaker 1: fits magic in the mix. Yeah, the Patriots. Don't need
Speaker 1: to see the Patriots win another division for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life, but I do as a football fan,
Speaker 1: I kind of I'm into the Cam Newton in the
Speaker 1: division thing. It's kind of it's a fun storyline. The
Speaker 1: Patriots were, they were shaping up as a brutally boring team,
Speaker 1: and now there's some juice in the building. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, anybody got another one or you want to
Speaker 1: you want to move on here, Let's move on all right?
Speaker 1: Before we say goodbye, because again we are going away
Speaker 1: for a week. Uh so, why don't we do a
Speaker 1: little eight o'clock lightning, Ricky just to eight o'clock to
Speaker 1: light excuse me, just to hit any other news and
Speaker 1: then we'll say goodbye. Mark Davis is unhappy with the
Speaker 1: decision to sell ads, not seats the fans in his
Speaker 1: fancy new stadium. I mean, this is just the beginning.
Speaker 1: If Mark Davis is coming after the league because he
Speaker 1: thinks like society should be more open, you might see
Speaker 1: some political back and forth among the owners. You like
Speaker 1: that A little raiders all there, Matt Rule says to everybody,
Speaker 1: and maybe me, Teddy will go deep more six point two?
Speaker 1: Why not? You've got Robbie Anderson. Matt Rule knows Robby Anderson. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that I think this is a a little
Speaker 1: bit has to do with Rule when he came on
Speaker 1: our show too and had to answer Teddy questions. Everywhere
Speaker 1: he goes, it's Teddy questions and typically questions doubting Teddy.
Speaker 1: So he's telling you stick it. We're gonna throw the
Speaker 1: ball where Teddy Bridge orders averaged six point two intended
Speaker 1: air yards for attempt last season. In other news, Zekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott still hasn't worked out two weeks after getting the
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen virus. Greg this is the whole thing with
Speaker 1: Corona that I think people are under selling. What are
Speaker 1: the long term impacts gonna be for these players for
Speaker 1: the thirty seven Clemson guys. Also, the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: game and ceremony were canceled. July still the date for
Speaker 1: training camp. We'll see, Mark, We'll see, we'll see. All right,
Speaker 1: what are you guys gonna do this week? Anything? I'm
Speaker 1: still in Texas of course. Um, I'm gonna enjoy it
Speaker 1: here at the lake Kevin Danger hands Us. My brother
Speaker 1: is coming into town actually, and he's gonna stay with
Speaker 1: us in seclusion here at the Lake House. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. That should have a similar
Speaker 1: Cam Newton in New England effect. He tends to spice
Speaker 1: things up when he arrives. I could see some controversial
Speaker 1: press conferences, Hairstyles. It all is on the table for Danger.
Speaker 1: Kevin Danger hands Is and my brother in law, Tanner
Speaker 1: Um are still the only people in the history of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and the Super Bowls we've covered at
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast where we we go into
Speaker 1: the stadiums Ricky as well, and we on game day
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, we get there about three hours
Speaker 1: four hours before kickoff and we're in that building, what
Speaker 1: three or four hours after the Lombardi trophy is handed
Speaker 1: over too. When we when we leave, we're sometimes um
Speaker 1: close to the last people out of the Super Bowl stadium.
Speaker 1: And to this to this day, only Kevin and Tanner
Speaker 1: were the only Super Bowl Family guests that were still
Speaker 1: awake when we got back to the hotel at three
Speaker 1: odd am in the morning at TJ. Friday's, hammering down drinks,
Speaker 1: talking to girls getting in trouble. I think they actually
Speaker 1: convinced um T G. I. Friday's to stay open later
Speaker 1: because they're like, there is people, there are people coming back.
Speaker 1: This place is going to be rocking, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know we closed the place very early in the morning. Anyway,
Speaker 1: your plans guys for this week and lady my plan.
Speaker 1: I really have no plans. It's like other weeks. But
Speaker 1: but last podcasts they do have an update though I
Speaker 1: don't know Eric if you wanted to share the poll
Speaker 1: that you put up on your site. She wants, you know,
Speaker 1: on her Twitter page, she said who's better looking? Settle
Speaker 1: In argument, Greg says Cam right now over fifty votes,
Speaker 1: Cam dominating of the vote. Yeah, it's big, it's a
Speaker 1: big Uh, it's a big loss for me. I really,
Speaker 1: you know, hit the table that it was Tom Brady earlier,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe like Cam Newton, I can I
Speaker 1: can change, well I will. Let's just give Brady this. Uh,
Speaker 1: A lot of people are better looking at thirty one
Speaker 1: than they are at fort well, plus trusting the American
Speaker 1: public and an open vote isn't always proven to me
Speaker 1: like you're choosing the right guy. So well, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of we're going to just vote against Brady because
Speaker 1: they can't stand Brady. But I think the Cam is
Speaker 1: a fair challenger there. Sorry, I didn't have an answer
Speaker 1: for what's happening this week. I don't know if marks
Speaker 1: we're going. We're going to um To Lake Arrowhead is
Speaker 1: a family for to you go, you gotta be carefully
Speaker 1: here by there by the way. You're a young lady.
Speaker 1: And I know what's been happening in l A since
Speaker 1: I've been gone. You guys can't stop partying, your millennials,
Speaker 1: and it's caused a spike in the Los Angeles County region.
Speaker 1: What are you doing here, Texas fingers? Yeah, I know right, Seriously,
Speaker 1: I rented a house up in Joshua Tree National Park,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go up there for a little bit
Speaker 1: and get out of the city and see some stars.
Speaker 1: Very good. I I call no land home anymore. Mark.
Speaker 1: I don't not Texas, not California, not New York. I
Speaker 1: just I'm a wander at this stage of my life,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the best way to do it
Speaker 1: at this point. I hope that got into the newspaper
Speaker 1: article that we've not heard anything else about. I'm waiting.
Speaker 1: We're waiting to find out. Let us know. Tease. That's
Speaker 1: a nice tease for for next week. Come back, come
Speaker 1: back to find out the starting conclusion to the Gatesville Messenger.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. Dan has a signing off for
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm the old Boss Ricky Hollywood. Enjoy the fourth Everybody,
Speaker 1: do your next week.