1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: christ and this is the keep it Positive Sweetish show. Hey, 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: k his family. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: I am so. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Excited about this episode because I have my dear friend, 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Melissa Procter with me. Melissa is the CMO of the 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks and she is the co founder of Perveta 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Health here in Atlanta, Georgia. Guys, we've known each other 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: for a few years. What it feels like forever his family, 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Please give a very warm sweetie welcome to Melissa Proctor. Melissa, 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: finally we got you here. Thank you so much. I 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: know you are busy this time of year or all 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: the time. You're a mother and a businesswoman, so I 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: don't think there's every moment where you're not busy. 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: So thank you. 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 3: First of all, thank you so much for having me 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: as a fan of the show and the fact that 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: I've seen so many episodes. 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: I am honored to finally be here. Thank you so much. 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate your support. 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: You came to my first live show, you watch you 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: let me know that you've watched the episode, so I 23 00:00:59,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: Yes, so we met like three years ago, which feels 26 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: like an eternity. We're both like it was way longer 27 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: than that. 28 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: I think it's about three years ago doing the BMW 29 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: un Court series, and immediately we hit it off, like 30 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: we were locked in from that day on. And what 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I love about you is that you've always been a 32 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: dreamer like me. From a very young age. You had 33 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: all these big dreams that probably seemed so outlandish to 34 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: people who heard it right. You wanted to be the 35 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: first female NBA coach, but you became the first female 36 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: ball girl for the Miami Heat. Now, little backstory. I 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: read that you at the age of fifteen, you wrote 38 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: letters and you called the Miami Heat every single day. 39 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: Time about that. So, when I was fifteen, my mom, 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: who was a registered nurse, you know, born and raised 41 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: in Belieze, knew nothing of American sports. 42 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: I said she. I told her I wanted a job. 43 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: She said, okay, mal, if you want to get a 44 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: job and whatever you're going to do for the rest 45 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: of your life. 46 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: At fifteen, what I was going to tell you I 47 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: was an artist. 48 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: I was always drawing and painting, but I knew that 49 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: I loved watching basketball. One of my cousins introduced me 50 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: to the game, but I would watch it like a 51 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: soap opera on TV for the storylines. Whenever I watched, 52 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: I never saw women. So this is before they were 53 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: female referees or assistant coaches or anything. Yeah, And so 54 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: I said, you know, mo, mom would be the first 55 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: female coach in the NBA. She said, Okay, go get 56 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: a job in the NBA. And that was it, like 57 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: she laid down the gatland and there was no other option. 58 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Wow. 59 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: And so I had never been to a game, never 60 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: been to the Miami Arena, which is where they used 61 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: to play. 62 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: And so I started. 63 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: Calling one eight hundred number like white Pages, and I called, 64 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 3: I mean, how else do you get it right? 65 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: Making phone calls? 66 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: And I think I got someone in community relations and 67 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: they were like, I'm sorry, we don't have any jobs 68 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: for kids. 69 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: Try the equipment manager. 70 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: And so I got connected to a guy named Jay 71 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: Sable who was then the equipment manager. And I started 72 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: calling him. He wouldn't pick up, and I was like, 73 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: let me write letters to Jay. So I would write letters, 74 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: but I would draw on them. I'd draw pictures of 75 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: the players. I would draw you know, logos. Basketball is anything. 76 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: And so one day I called him again and he 77 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: picked up. He was like, I've got your letters. You 78 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: know you're a tremendous artist, but I don't have any 79 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: jobs for girls. I was like, I don't know what 80 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: you would do. You know, this is grunge work. It's 81 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: coming early, staying late, mopping sweat, you know, olden towels. 82 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I want a job. I 83 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: have no other option, right, And so I kept calling 84 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: and he was like, if you call me one more time, 85 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: I'm not going to hire you. And I was like okay. 86 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: So then I stopped for like a week, and then I. 87 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: Kept on calling. 88 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: Come. 89 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: Then eventually he was like, you know what, you have 90 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: a lot of heart, like the fact that he's like, well, 91 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: why don't you coming for a preseason game? And to me, 92 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: I was like, actually go to the arena like four 93 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: a game. 94 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: Who had no idea? 95 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: And so I went and that was my first NBA 96 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: game ever. I think we played the Magic that year 97 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: and I got an outfit. It was like a rebox 98 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: champion like sweatsuit. I tell you, it was like this 99 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: free and it was the most amazing thing. Was like 100 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: watching TV come to life. 101 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Yes, that was take us to that moment when you 102 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: walked to the Miami Arena and was like walking into 103 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: your dream. 104 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: Literally, how did that feel at that age? 105 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think I knew the gravity of 106 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: it at the time, because I was just kind of like, 107 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: I hope I don't mess up, mind you. 108 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: I never played basketball. I was always in Melissa. 109 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: So I never like I didn't know how to rebound 110 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: like it was out there like going to the basket 111 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: and rebound. I was like standing directly under the basket, 112 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: like like I got hit, got knocked down, busted lip. 113 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: All that first day, never forget. And it was one 114 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: of those like learn quick. And there was a guy 115 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: named James, one of the other ball boys who was 116 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: definitely like from the hood around the Miami Arena. He 117 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: was like, hey, I'm gonna show you the ropes and 118 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: he took me under his wing. 119 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: He's like, this is how we hustled. 120 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: We got to carry, you know, like shoes for the 121 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: players or carry their bags in and out of the locker room. 122 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: But because women weren't allowed in the locker room, I 123 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: couldn't go back there, like I couldn't do what he did. 124 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: So I had to learn a whole other world on 125 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: the court. 126 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: So I ended up trying to help stand Ban Gunn, 127 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: who was an assistant coach at the time, and I'd 128 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: be like, all right, well, let me help you with 129 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: the players, so be like stand right here and hold 130 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: this pick. 131 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: And I'd learned so much about the game. 132 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 5: Wow. 133 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: But that's so they ended up calling me. 134 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: Queen because I used to love having single and Queenland 135 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: was like my person, yes, and so I was queen 136 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: and I was the Queen of the court. So I 137 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: would be out there diving for loose balls like I 138 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: was in a game. I really thought I was like contributing, yes, 139 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: But it ended up being the beginning of my career 140 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: in sports and probably one of the most amazing jobs 141 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: I ever had. 142 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 143 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: I love that. 144 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: When you think about the drive that our generation has 145 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: that I feel like this new generation lacks. They're not 146 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: calling and writing and really going after what they want, 147 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: you know. And I don't know where we lost that 148 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: in the translation of the times, but I think it's 149 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: something that is a lost art, you know, and to 150 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: really get what you want, what do you feel is 151 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: something that you could tell this younger generation really how 152 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: to go after what they want the way you did. 153 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: You know, so much of it is like just not 154 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: accepting no for an answer. Yeah, And I think a 155 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: lot of it was my mom. My mom would always 156 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: say nothing mes to trial, but a failure. She's like, 157 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: you can do is ask. The worst they're going to 158 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: say is no. And I realized for a lot of times, 159 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: you know, if you have pride, and it was like 160 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: or the expectation that everything should come to you, so 161 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: it's like, well, you just see to give it to me. 162 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: There was so much more of like she would always 163 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: say you got a kiss ass so you could kick. 164 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: It, and that was like her term. 165 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: And so I remember coming in as a bond kid 166 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: there or people who are incredibly disrespectful, like you know, 167 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm just here popping up sweat, Yeah, but I'm sitting 168 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: with you know, billionaire people behind me, or like I 169 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: remember Jimmy Buffett was behind me like every game and 170 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: I had no idea who he was, and. 171 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: Like, why do people ask you for your autograph? 172 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: And one day he's like, I'm Jimmy Buffett and I was 173 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: like then I was like, oh my god. 174 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: There were so many things. 175 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: Where it didn't matter who you were, like you respect 176 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: everybody regardless of you know what class you are, regardless 177 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: of what role you play. And I think that job 178 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: taught me that, and I think for this next generation, 179 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: there's so much of that that needs to happen. And 180 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: there's so many examples of people who you know, did 181 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: a little bit of work and got a lot of success. 182 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: Everyone wants to replicate that, but the reality is you 183 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: don't see it. And I think the social media microwave 184 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: society just shows you the highlights but not the work. 185 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: Come on, I don't think we had that viewpoint. 186 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: I mean there was still some to a certain degree, 187 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: but you saw more of the grind. And I think 188 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: for me, I'll tell everyone, like to this day, if 189 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: someone said, hey, you gotta go mop up sweat this game, 190 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, and I know how to make 191 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: a mob. I'd be out there because I'm never too 192 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: far away from where I started. Yes, So, like, it 193 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what stage of career you're at, you should 194 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: always be able to hummer yourself to go and do 195 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: whatever it. 196 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: Takes to get the job. 197 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: So I agree with that, and that's something I live 198 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: by to treat every person with respect. I don't care 199 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: what they're doing because we are never too far from that. 200 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: I learned in corporate America when I started working at Turner, 201 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: they were like, you know, you always respect the assistant 202 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: and the drivers because they hold the keys to everything, 203 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: stuff that you. 204 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: Don't even think about. 205 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: And I was like, Wow, if you're trying to get 206 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: with any CEO or CMO and you're like, I want 207 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: time on your calendar, those are people who hold the 208 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: keys to the top and people don't. And so even 209 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: I'm interviewing people now for roles, I'll say, hey, I'll ask, 210 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: you know, the assistant of the person that works the 211 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: front desk, how did they treat you? Yeah, because it's 212 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: not about how they treat me. They're always going to 213 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: talk up for me, but it's so much more about them. 214 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, I have a no jerk policy. Yep, 215 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: I do the same thing. 216 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: That is so yes. 217 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I always want to make sure that my team and 218 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: anybody who's representing me is representing me to the fullest. Yes, 219 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: because you definitely don't want that, and a lot of 220 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: times you won't know unless you ask. 221 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Yes, that is so true. 222 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Now, you wrote a book from ball Girl to CMO, 223 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: and I want to know at what age, did you 224 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: realize that you could handle leadership at the highest level? Like, 225 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: when did you to even write a book? You telling 226 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: me all the time, Crystal, would you write the book? 227 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: So I'm still waiting on your book. 228 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: No, thanks, thanks. 229 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know that I ever knew, to 230 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: be honest, and the only reason I wrote my book 231 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: was for my daughter, Marley. 232 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: I have my daughter name is Marley. She's eleven now. 233 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: But when she was born, my mom had passed away 234 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 3: two years before Marley was born. 235 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: And my mom and I were real closed. 236 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: I was like, my bestie, and I really believe that 237 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: I gave birth to my mom through my daughter, because 238 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: she is my mother. 239 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: That came back to life. 240 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: But when she was born, I had so many questions 241 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: from my mom that I wouldn't have asked until I 242 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: became a mom, right, And I was just like, man, 243 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: God forbid, something happens to me while Marley's still young. 244 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: So many people were like, oh, you should write a book. 245 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: Your story is so interesting. 246 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 247 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want her to have to 248 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 3: hear my story through other people, so I was like, 249 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: let me just put it down. It took a long 250 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: time to actually get it done. I'm not a writer, 251 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: I'm not a reader, but it was so much more 252 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 3: for her. So when I was done, I didn't even 253 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: think about sales or actually launched her in September twenty 254 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 3: twenty and. 255 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: Then out of COVID. 256 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no book, launch, no part no nothing. 257 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 6: Yeah. 258 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: People like, well, how are you going to market it? 259 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't care, no marketing it. I 260 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: wrote it for her. Wow, but there's a lot as 261 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: a marketer like, yeah, marketing is your thing. 262 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it. 263 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: It's not about it wasn't the reason. That wasn't the why. 264 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: But in terms of leadership, so much of my journey 265 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: has been like wherever God has had me at that time, 266 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: and I would raise my hand to take on these jobs. 267 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: People will tapping on my shoulder say hey, you're interested 268 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: in this. 269 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: I may have wanted to go and try a whole 270 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: different career at times I was like, I'm going to 271 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: go work in an ad agency and it never panned out, 272 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: but I just had opportunities to take up. 273 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: Coming and so even and going to the Hawks. 274 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: I had gotten laid off when I was eight months 275 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: pregnant with Martley. 276 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I. 277 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: Was at Turner for about eleven years, and it was 278 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: part of a digital health and wellness startup, and then 279 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: one CEO left, a new one came in. You were 280 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: the last business started and the first one to get cut. 281 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: So the entire business unit got laid off. Wow, And 282 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: I was like out with HR recruiting young interns because 283 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: I started as an intern. 284 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: In that company. So no one could believe. 285 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: They're like, list, it has to be at Turner, that's 286 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: what this is. Yeah, And I was like, well, I'll 287 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: just figure it out, you know. I had my daughter 288 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: in About a month or two later. I ended up 289 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: going to a draft party at the arena Phillips Arena 290 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: then as a fan. 291 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: My homegirl was like, Grol, you have no job. It's 292 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: a free party, you know, come on. 293 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: And so I went and then ran into literally an 294 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: old mentor of mine who had left Turner to go. 295 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: To become CEO of the Hawks. Yes, when I was. 296 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: Still at Turner, so I hadn't spoken to him, didn't 297 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: have any conversation. He knew that I love brand building, 298 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: he knew that I loved basketball. My first year in 299 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: that land, I was a ball girl on the court 300 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: for the Hawks. Mop and I was sweat one season 301 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: and he would sit courtside and see me getting it 302 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: doing my thing, and literally I ran into him and 303 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: he was like, Oh, I want to introduce you to 304 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: some people. And he walks me around the party and 305 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: introduces me to every C level executive that's for the 306 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 3: Hawks and everyone I met there like, oh, we can't 307 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: wait for you to start, and I was like start, sorry, 308 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: And ultimately he was like, I know you love basketball, 309 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: I know you love branding. I might need some help 310 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: building a brand. We're in the middle of redesigning our jerseys. 311 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: I know you were a creative and an artist. Would 312 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: you mind sitting in on some meetings? You know, I 313 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: have a team here, but I love your perspective? And 314 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: I was like absolutely, And I started doing it for free. 315 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: Like I was like, I'm just happy to be out 316 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: my house right and my dad, mother in law was there. 317 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 5: The kid. 318 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: I was like, give me and give me out of here, 319 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: and so I go. 320 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: Once started going to meetings and one became five, became ten, 321 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: and he was like, I think I should pay you, 322 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: you know. 323 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: I would you like to consult? 324 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely yes, And so I started consulting and we started 325 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: consulting on building a brand. Yeh, we're going to be 326 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: and then that turned into becoming vice president of brand strategy. 327 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: Never had that as the vision of what it was 328 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: going to be, but ultimately some years later he was like, 329 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: you know, what do you think about being chief marketing 330 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: officer And I was like, no, thank you really, absolutely not. 331 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: I want to know part of it. 332 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I think at the time I 333 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 3: had become an individual, an individual contributor, and. 334 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: I loved it. And I could work with every department. 335 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: I was helping with digital monetization, I was helping with 336 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: design stuff over here. I was giving perspective on how 337 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: to build out an internal agency. But I didn't have 338 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: a team and wrec reports and it was just very 339 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 3: freeing and I could kind of contribute in every way. 340 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: I yes. 341 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: Like specific help and I was like, ooh, don't box 342 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: me right, yeah, the corner. 343 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: And then ultimately, you. 344 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: Know, it kind of came to a point where he's like, 345 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: once I really need you to do this, and I 346 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: was like, He's like, do you know why I want 347 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 3: you to take this role or b CMO? 348 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: And I was like no, Wow, He's like, because you 349 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: don't want it. 350 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 351 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: I thought it was so I'm telling at the time, 352 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: and he was like, look, most people want this job 353 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: because they think it didn't give them money or power. 354 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: Sports don't pay, you know. 355 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: The perception of power is always one thing. And I 356 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: had a mantra and I was like, I just want 357 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: to make dope ish like that's we have it on 358 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: a wall, like that's all I want to do. Make 359 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: stuff that's cool, different than people can like gravitate towards Yeah, 360 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: and he's like, that's why I want you to do 361 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: this job. 362 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: Because of your why. 363 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: Yes, And after that I was like, okay, I total 364 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: imposter syndrome, was afraid. I said, well, if I do, 365 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: can I get an executive coach? 366 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: He was like you want to coach? 367 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 368 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I don't know what. I 369 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: don't know. 370 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: They have gaps and I want to help, you know, 371 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: feel those And he was like so interesting. Most men 372 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: would say if you get a coach, they think they're 373 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: getting fired. Here you are asking me for a coach, 374 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, that's just who I am. 375 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: And that coach, her name is Cheryl Jordan. She's amazing. 376 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: She helped me so much in just three sixty figuring 377 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: out that I was a micromanager because I was always 378 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: used to doing the work everything exactly. 379 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: So I was like, if you're doing hey, how is it? 380 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: Where is it? Can I get it? 381 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Melissa stip get out of my business? But who 382 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: isn't here? 383 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: Like yeah, that's Me's almost like you gave me your 384 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: project today and tomorrow you're asking for an update. 385 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: Like I didn't even start yet. I think got struck 386 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: a nerve hours. Where are we on that? I mean, 387 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: that was so funny because that is so me. 388 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: But I had to learn and so I mean, in 389 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: terms of preparation for leadership, I don't think anything could 390 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: have prepared me. And then when I was put into it, 391 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: it was like, okay, understanding what works? 392 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: What doesn't you know? How to be better? 393 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: I liked. I think of myself as a servant leader. 394 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: I want to make sure I leave any environment better 395 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: than it. 396 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: Was when I Yeah. 397 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: So even for my team now they've been with me 398 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: a long time, they're amazing people. We work really well together, 399 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: and I'm always like, how can I help you be 400 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: a better person? Outside of the hawks are here? If 401 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: you decide that you're going to leave that's flattery. If 402 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: other people are proaching you these we're doing a great job. 403 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, instead of trying to keep you for myself. 404 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: And I had a lot of lead throughout my career 405 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: that always were probably keep you on my arms. You 406 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: help me look good. So I just want to keep 407 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: you right here and stunting your growth. 408 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: That's so good. 409 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Anybody you are a true definition of your gifts will 410 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: make room for you. The fact that, like everything you've 411 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: done from being an artist, you're an incredible artist. That's 412 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: another thing I wanted to ask you. Have you ever 413 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: like put your work like in a museum for exhibits? 414 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: It was wild. 415 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: I was just looking through some old pictures this morning, randomly, Yeah, 416 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: and I found an exhibition pictures of me at an 417 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: exhibition I had been in like high school, and I 418 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: was traveling around Florida. I had a manager helping me 419 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: manage my art. Honey, I think you need to get 420 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: my art, you know. And it's so crazy because I 421 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: would do like artwork on commission. I went to Wake 422 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: Force on an art scholarship, and so I had done 423 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: a lot of exhibitions and when I moved to Atlanta 424 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: started working at Turner. 425 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: At one point I had a design job. Wow. 426 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: And it was the end of my art career. Once 427 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: I got paid for creating. It was like it almost 428 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: took the passion. 429 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: For the ways it can work. Wow. 430 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: And so my daughter Marley's an amazing artist. She loves 431 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: a characters like she I see it through her now. 432 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't have the. 433 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: Desire really because I was gonna ask you, I mean, 434 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: I do something for you. 435 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: I need some of that in my house. It is 436 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: so beautiful. 437 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Yes, like you guys have to get her book and 438 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: you can see some of her artwork. 439 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: It is absolutely stunning. 440 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: I figured it may come around another time, yeah, in 441 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: my life. But you know, for now, I say that 442 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: I use my creativity to find like creative solutions to 443 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: business challenge. 444 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: Yes. 445 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's still like using the same muscle, but 446 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: in a different way. 447 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: Right, Speaking of business challenges, and you talked about imposter 448 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: syndrome very on, very on early in your career. How 449 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: did you overcome that and what was like one of 450 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: those moments that really stand out were you literally out 451 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: of body experience of you experiencing imposter syndrome where you 452 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: were like, I don't belong here? 453 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: What is happening? Who do you think you are? 454 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Because these are all the thoughts that we think when 455 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: we're right where we belong, but we don't think we do. 456 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I just have one. There's 457 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: so many throughout my career, and I'll probably say maybe 458 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 3: what I started at the Hawks because you know, the 459 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: perception was, you know the CEO, I worked with him previously. 460 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: He brought me in and be like, oh, you're just 461 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: here because you know him and whichever. So I really 462 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: had to come and improve myself. And I remember when 463 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: we had to onboard a new ownership team and. 464 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: My boss gave me the job. It's like, Melissa, help 465 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: with onboarding. 466 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: I don't know anyone who's onboarded and ownership team for 467 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: a professional sports organization. 468 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I have no clue what them. 469 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was calling other teams and asking questions 470 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: and then just figuring things out or like, Okay, they're 471 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: not from here, let's do tours, let's do this, put 472 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: these finders together, let's help educate. And by the end 473 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 3: of it, they were like it was such an amazing experience. 474 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 3: He was like, you know, I'm going to promote you 475 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 3: to this new position, and I'm like what and so 476 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: much And what I learned in that is like, nobody 477 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: knows what they're doing. 478 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: Come on, And it's certainly. 479 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: Especially for senior level, like people think that you haven't 480 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: all figured out, like no, and I'm like, no, no 481 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: one knows, and it so freeing When you finally get 482 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: that point, He's just like, you can't mess up. It's 483 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: like you're I think COVID was a great example of 484 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: that because there are so many leaders. Everyone was figuring 485 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: it out on yes, and some people in better ways 486 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 3: than others. But once you get that, it's like all 487 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: you're trying to do is make the best decision for 488 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: the business. 489 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: That you can at the time. 490 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: For sure, through experience, it helps you understand what things 491 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: may or may not work, but that's ultimately And I 492 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: was like, oh. 493 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: None of y'all know. 494 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 6: Cool. 495 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: If anything, I'm resourceful, I'm gonna figure something out. No, 496 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: for sure. 497 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: Yes, what are some of the challenges that you have 498 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: faced as a woman in sports? Because we both know 499 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: that being a woman in sports it's a very male 500 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: dominated industry and you are one of the few women 501 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: that are in a high position you know. 502 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: What's interesting, It's evolved so much. 503 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: Like I remember when I started with the league almost 504 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: eleven years now with the Hawks, I would go to 505 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: NBA meetings and there would be a lot of men. 506 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: You know, some women, But it's so different now. 507 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: It's much more diverse seniors on the business side, even 508 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: in some of the basketball side, but definitely on the 509 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: business side, you see a lot more women presidents and 510 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: teams and things like that. Like there's an opportunity and 511 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: a lot of you can't be what you can't see. 512 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: So seeing Sint Marshall when she was, you know, leading 513 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: up the Mavericks and it's like, okay, I got it now, 514 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: Like that's that's a thing, And so there's definitely opportunity. 515 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: I almost see being a woman in sports as a superpower. 516 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: Especially I'm like, who's buying tickets? Who do we market to? 517 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of times like it's us and 518 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: that's a good thing. I mean early in my career 519 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: there were definitely times where you know, I would be 520 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: helping out and you know, working on Scott and Reports 521 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: back in the day. You know, I would do stuff 522 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: for the heat and number having someone tell me like 523 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: we don't pay you to think. We pay you to 524 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: do what we tell you to do. And that was like, Yo, 525 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: what I don't I don't like that. That's not necessarily 526 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: what I see from my life. But as I've grown one, 527 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: I'd never forget those things. As a leader, I want 528 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: to make sure that everyone feels empowered. But as a 529 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 3: black woman, I mean, and you know me, I'm normally 530 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: in sweats and you know, nikes, and she got dressed 531 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: for me. I got chanted on my inner crystal. I 532 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: styled myself. But I remember when I first got promoted 533 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 3: the CMO, and I tell the story how I went 534 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: to go park and they have a reserve parking spaces 535 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: when you're an executive. It's like I got promoted. I'm 536 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: an executive. Now I could park in a good spot. 537 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: And so I went to park at the arena in 538 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: the reserve place for players park and security came out 539 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: to my car and said, excuse me, ma'am, I'm sorry, 540 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: you can't park here. 541 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: The space is reserved for executives. And I was like. 542 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: Okay, And so I had to take up my badge 543 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: and show and it said like executive on. 544 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: The body and it was a brother and he looked 545 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: at me. 546 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: He was so confused, like, oh, oh, all right, you know, 547 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 3: go ahead. But I realized in that moment, I was 548 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 3: changing his perspective or stereotype of what an NBA executive 549 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: looked like exactly because I got locks and nose ring 550 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: like and I'm the same all the time regardless, and 551 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: I don't think people expect that. So the number of 552 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: times where I've gone places and people just underestimate, not 553 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: just because I'm a woman, because I'm a black woman 554 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 3: in sports at this and this position. 555 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. 556 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: But I love like when I get to talk to 557 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: youth and they're like, oh man, you're so coold. 558 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't expect that. 559 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes, it can be a regular person. 560 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: I mean I always say I'm just warming the seat. Yeah, 561 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: this job is in mind forever, you know what I mean. 562 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: And ultimately, I'm grateful for the opportunity and as many people. 563 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: As I can help while I'm in it. I want 564 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: to do that. 565 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: I don't define myself by the job, and a lot 566 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: of people define me by it. 567 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: Oh Melissa, how does that make you feel when you 568 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: don't define yourself by it but other people do? 569 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: So annoying. 570 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, go outside, people like, oh yeah, that's Mlissa from 571 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: the Hawks. Hey, let me get some tickets, Hey, let 572 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: me get a job. Hey, I got this stay in 573 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 3: this brand. I want to promote. And I know that 574 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: if I didn't have this role, none of them would 575 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: be speaking to me. And I know that, and I'm 576 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 3: okay with it. But I realized when I was a turner, 577 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: a lot of people got got let go after all 578 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: the changes in the company. Sold a couple of times, 579 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,239 Speaker 3: and I saw people felt like they were going through 580 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: a divorce, like how can they do this to me? 581 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: And I'm like, it's a job. It happens. 582 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 3: But if they're whole identity is wrapped up in this position. 583 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: If they lose the position, they don't know who they are. 584 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: That's real. 585 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: I tell people today, if I was a greeter at 586 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: Walmart tomorrow, I would be equally as cool and still 587 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: very much met. 588 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: You'd be the coolest greater a Walmart. 589 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying, like it's all good, but I 590 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: always have to maintain that mentality. Because I can, and 591 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: because I got laid off when I was eight months pregnant, 592 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: I think now I can go to work every day 593 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: like you never know, and that's okay, and it's free 594 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: because I'm not holding onto it. That would be sad 595 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: because I love what I do and I love my team. 596 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, that means God 597 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: has just prepared me for my next adventure. 598 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 599 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of an adventure, you went to get your 600 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: master's degree in Design Studies and Branding from Central Saint 601 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: Martin's College of Art and Design at the London Institute. 602 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: It's a mouthful. It's a mouthful. Listen. 603 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: I love London. How did you end up in London? 604 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: Random story? So my mom, I mentioned, she's from Belief, 605 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: colonized by the Is. She went to nursing school in England. 606 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: Really so my entire life I heard about her friends 607 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 3: in York and all these things, and it wasn't like 608 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: fancy or fabulous, like if you were in Belieze, you 609 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 3: either were a teacher or nurse, and if you were 610 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: then you went to London for nursing school. 611 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: And so she did. 612 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: And I had never been to Europe my entire childhood, 613 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: and I just remember it was like a mythical place. 614 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: Yes, when she was I would see pictures of her. 615 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: She was the only black person in her class, and 616 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: so I would always. 617 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: Be like, you know, one day I'm gonna go to London. 618 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 619 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: I had family from Jamaica. My father's from Jamaica. 620 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: I have an uncle and two cousins and an aunt 621 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 3: that moved to Jamaica moved, sorry, moved from. 622 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: Jamaica to London. 623 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: OK. So they were like my call my British cousin, 624 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: and I was like, one day I'm a visit them. 625 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 3: And I remember an undergrad at Wake that had a 626 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: study of broad programs. So I did a semester abroad. 627 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: The first time I got on a plane in London 628 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 3: and I fell in love with it. But I was 629 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: at a house with a bunch of Americans and like, we traveled, 630 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: you did some really cool stuff. But I didn't feel 631 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: like I really got like an actual experience being in 632 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: London because it was kind of like it was an 633 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 3: Americanized experience. 634 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: Okay. So I said, if I can. 635 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: Go back, I want to go to like British school, 636 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: be in a dorm, live with people from all over 637 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: the world. And so that's what I did. After I graduated, 638 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: I came to Atlanta. I worked at Turner four year 639 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: and they offered me a job like six months in 640 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh man, this is great opportunity, 641 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: but I really want the chance to live abroad. And 642 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: so I turned down the job and I got into 643 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: the program in London, so one year master's degree, and 644 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: so I literally went as an excuse to live abroad 645 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: and have that opportunity, and so I couldn't do it. 646 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: And what I realized then if you didn't have the 647 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: amount of money you needed for the year in your 648 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: bank account, they won't let you go. So it wasn't 649 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: like you can get financial aid and all of that. 650 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: So I needed twenty thousand dollars and I was like, 651 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: how am I going to have I get it. One 652 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: of my colleagues at the time was like, why don't 653 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: you just ask for it? So I made some proposals 654 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'll give my artwork, or I'll 655 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: just be a great citizen, give me something thousand dollars. 656 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: It was the year the All Star Game was in Atlanta, 657 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: so I was mopping up sweat for the game and 658 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: I was shopping it around, gave it to players, you know, anybody, 659 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: family members, and ultimately it. 660 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: Was Tim Hardaway, one of the players that I need 661 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: for my days. 662 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: He was like, you know, my wife and I sorry proposal, 663 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 3: We really believe in you. 664 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: You know, here is the father, Tim Hardaway. 665 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 666 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: What So when I was a ball room for the Heat, 667 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: I like worked Tim Junior's birthday party. 668 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: I was a ball girl. He was like, hey, can 669 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 2: you come help out of the party. I'm like, oh, 670 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to Hardaway's house. It was like can you 671 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: carry this ice? And in his budget? I was like 672 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: all right. 673 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: But from then they were like family to me. So 674 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 3: he's like, my wife and I have always believed in you. 675 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: We love you. 676 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I'll pay it back over time. 677 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: He was like, pay it forward and it was the 678 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: biggest blessing. And so that's what got me to London 679 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: and it was amazing, awesome program, great friends that I made, 680 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: lifelong friends from my experience now going to school in 681 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 3: England coming back like, I wouldn't trade it, and I'm 682 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: so glad I did it at that stage of life. 683 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: So you were a mother at this point, you hadn't 684 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 1: had Remember you were turning you This is way back. 685 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: Okay. I was going to ask how as you manage that? 686 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: But wow, I don't know. 687 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: That's that's a whole other. 688 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: World, right, that's crazy and similar to you, I've always 689 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: wanted to study a bride. 690 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: I feel like the British actors are the best. 691 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: So when we went on strike a few years ago, 692 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: I remember I started I'm always like a solution oriented person, 693 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: not like, oh what are we doing? 694 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: What's happening? How can I make the most of this time? 695 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: So I started looking up different schools that I could 696 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: go to to do like intensive courses in London. And 697 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: I remember I was totaler what I wanted to do 698 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, he was like, I wouldn't 699 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: do it. He was like, only because this strike is 700 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: going to be over before you know it. Well it wasn't. 701 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: It was not over before we knew it. And I 702 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: was like, dang it, I should have went. But it's 703 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 1: one of those things where I still want to do that. 704 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: That's still a dream of mine. Yeah, totally, I do. 705 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: I want that experience of studying abroad. I just I remember. 706 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: It so vividly because I got to like feel like 707 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: I was immersed in it. Yeah. First I was like, okay, 708 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: you're in, you're out, but it was like, you know, 709 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: getting the bus and going to the markets for groceries 710 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: and making friends and like it was such a great time. 711 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: I think I was maybe like twenty five. 712 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: Wow, So it was a good Yes, I'm sure that 713 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: helped shape you as well. 714 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: Something about moving away from home that really does a 715 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: lot of shaping for me. 716 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: It was why Washington, DC? 717 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: You were London, And I know those moments definitely shape 718 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: me for sure. 719 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you. 720 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: Think about your leadership style, what are some of the 721 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: core principles that anger every big decision that. 722 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: You have to make. 723 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: You know, from a work perspective, I always think of 724 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: my values. 725 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I go back to my why, and I'll tell 726 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: the team. 727 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 3: So we even explaining like why we're doing things like 728 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: just don't rush through it, like explain how we got 729 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 3: there and the why. And so when it comes to 730 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: like business decisions, a lot of it is like focusing 731 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 3: on the what are we doing, What do we need 732 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: as orientation? What to the fancy, what does the community need? 733 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: Which is important when it comes to personal decisions. I 734 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: talk a lot about in my book as well about 735 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: my guiding principles. Yeah, like people ask you yes instead 736 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: of like my career and that's a different one, and 737 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: I think at some point in my career, I remember 738 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 3: I wanted to be in branding. I'd gone to grad 739 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: school in London to focus on brand strategy. 740 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: I love branding. 741 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: I want to learn more about it. And I think 742 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: I was maybe twenty six. I'd come back to Monday 743 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: and I worked for a couple of years at a 744 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: job and then I finally maybe I was like twenty eight, 745 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: I got a branding jobs Rectro brand strategy. 746 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: I got to rebrand cour TV to true TV Wow, 747 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: and I was like. 748 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: Oh man, this is cool. Yeah, I got to work 749 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: on it. But when I got the brand job, I 750 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: was like, what's next? Do I retire? 751 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: Like what are we going to do? 752 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 3: And so I had to kind of redefine what, you know, 753 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 3: success kind of looked like to me. And at that 754 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: point I had a lot of mentors that were like, 755 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: you know, you should really create your guiding principles for 756 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: your life and your career. 757 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: What should that be? And I never really thought of it. 758 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: So I took some time to you know, ask these 759 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: questions of like, you know, what would I do if 760 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: you know for free? 761 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: You know, what is my superpower? 762 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: What things do I dislike, despise, what. 763 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: Keeps me up? 764 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: And I had all these things and I kind of 765 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: land that I call my starting five and almost like 766 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: the filter that I use for every decision that I make, 767 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: both personally and professionally. And so one is, you know, 768 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: I have the ability to both be really creative, like 769 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: with the art, but also strategic from a business sense. 770 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: And I've had business strategy jobs I hated, so it 771 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: was all strategy and there was no creativity. 772 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: And I had all. 773 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: Creative jobs, like I mentioned that the art job, which 774 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 3: at first I liked, and I was like, that's not 775 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: for me either. But my superpower is when I can 776 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: bring both of those together. And this role is very 777 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: creative and strategic business wise. 778 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: I think that's why I thrive in it. 779 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: The second is I get bored real easily, Like if 780 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: I can do it in my sleep, I don't want 781 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: to do it. And so I'll always say that I 782 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: want to be adding more tools to my personal toolbox. 783 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: I was an agency of one. 784 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: What new capability am I adding to my capabilities presentations? 785 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: So anything that I do, if I could already do 786 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: it before I start, I don't need to be doing it. 787 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: The third is my mom was not the best with 788 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: money growing up. 789 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: You know what it was like step. 790 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: Getting cut off or bill collectors calling, and I said, 791 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: whatever I do, want to pay my bills on time 792 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: or ahead of time was the goal. Then after I 793 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: had my daughter, was thinking about generational you know what's building, 794 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: like what can I do for her long term or 795 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not leaving her in debt. My fourth 796 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: is some sense of like work life harmony. I don't 797 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: think there's ever balance. You know, we both work really hard. 798 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: Harmony is a good way to put harmony. You know, 799 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: sometimes you got to work really hard, sometimes you got 800 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: to live really hard. 801 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: They a great way, yes, And making sure that. 802 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm always in a position where I'm able to do 803 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: that when I can, especially with my daughter, like being 804 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: able to spend time with her when she needs it. 805 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: That's important. 806 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: And then the last one is authenticity because how I 807 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: am right now, If I am no matter where you 808 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: see me in any environment, trap house, at the White House, 809 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: like this is going to be what she is. 810 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: And so those are like. 811 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: My starting five and every decision I've made, I ladder 812 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: it up to those and I'm like, does it check 813 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: these boxes? And if it does, it's something that I 814 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: know that I would be happy with. 815 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 4: Love. 816 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: So even from a professional sense, people have. 817 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 3: Come with opportunities and say, hey, how would you like 818 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: this opportunity, I can very easily say, well, can you 819 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: handle these five things? These can be met. We can 820 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: have a conversation and it's not that's cool mm hmm. 821 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: I love that guiding principles. I'm going to take that on. 822 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: I got to find out with my starting five and. 823 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: It can evolve. 824 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: But I think it's so much of who you are 825 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: at your core. YEA, that like that's important. Like another 826 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: one now is Atlanta. You know, I had had opportunities 827 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: to leave Atlanta and my daughter was like, uh uh, 828 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: I'm not leaving Atlanta, and so I I'd love to 829 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: travel and yeah, you go places. And so at some point, 830 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: like another opportunity came and she was like no, Mom, 831 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: And I said, you know what, you didn't ask to 832 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: be here. Yes, And if I could do anything by 833 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: just having you stay here because you love this as 834 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: your own, I can make that sacrifice. So like a 835 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 3: silent six is being in Atlanta. If it's work related, ya, 836 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: that's important personally. Yeah, speaking of motherhood, you are an 837 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: amazing mom. 838 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: And Marley, when I tell you she is true to 839 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: herself is so so baby. When I tell you she's 840 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: very matter of fact, she is not fake. No, Like 841 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: I love that child. She was like, you did a 842 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: really good job. I would say, she's so the truth. 843 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like a little less truth, little less true. 844 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Bring it back, bring it back right. When you talk 845 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: about work, life, harm and having a child, how do 846 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: you find harmony with everything that you have going on? 847 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: I see you bring her the game, sometimes against her will. 848 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes she doesn't, like I do not want to 849 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: do you understand who your mother is? 850 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: She eats, she's ready to go. That is her. That 851 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: is so funny. 852 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: But how do you find harmony and everything that she 853 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: have going on with the motherhood? 854 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: You know, she is my first priority, and I'll tell 855 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: everyone if I have to leave because she just started volleyball. 856 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: She tells all her friends that her parents forced her 857 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: to pick a sport, and I was like, okay, you 858 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: picked this one right. But I really keep her first 859 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: and so for as many things. And you know, her 860 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: dad and I we co parent really well, and I'm 861 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: grateful for that. That's good, but it's so much like 862 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: I we'll think of all this stuff I have to do. 863 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: And I was telling a friend of mine, I often 864 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: ask her, how can I. 865 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: Be a better mom to you? 866 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: Wow? 867 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: And I've asked her since she was really young, and 868 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: she'd be like, you can give me more candy, like 869 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: it was real, it was a real kid, Like right now, 870 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: she's like no, mom, like you're good or helping her 871 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: sort feelings that she has, or you know, she's like, 872 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: you can make you can be less cringe when you 873 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: drop me off at school, And I was like how, 874 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I turn it down the volume at 875 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: a song. I really like to embarrass you. I'm like, no, 876 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm going. 877 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: To be cringe. That's that's what it is. 878 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: But just to like being able to communicate with her 879 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: and make sure that we're good at some point, you know, 880 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 3: like I recently started an entrepreneurial endeavor and I asked her. 881 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: She's like, you know, you work a lot now or 882 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: you're always tired. And I'm glad because she gives me 883 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: perspective of gaps that I don't even see that I have. 884 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, so how can I have the balance? 885 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: And I'm like Okay, So note to self. I need 886 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 3: to put work away and when I have time with her, 887 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: like make that focused time. And she's like, hey, we 888 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: watch a movie together. Sometimes I'm like, yeah, put it on, 889 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: come here. But you're correct, so I'm like, you know what, 890 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: like stop that, like just sit with her and be 891 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: there because you have a couple hours she's going to bed. 892 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: And so it's just trying to be more intentional about things. 893 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: But it's tough. Yeah, I can imagine. 894 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of taking on new professional endeavors, how has 895 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: that been? 896 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. I'm excited. 897 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: I actually went you had for Vita Hell, yes, and 898 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: I do want you to explain what it is because 899 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. Like I went to your facility and we're 900 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: actually going to go there too. But I went to 901 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: the facility and it was absolutely amazing, next level, like futuristic, amazing. 902 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 2: Thank you. 903 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 904 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 3: And so myself and not my business partner, doctor Trevor Turner, 905 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 3: we opened up a wellness center in Atlanta and Buckhead 906 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 3: and it's all around longevity and like orthopedics, but really, 907 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: how can you live as well as you can for 908 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: as long as you can? 909 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 5: Yes? 910 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: And having all of these different modalities or services that 911 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: we offer to do that. 912 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I was experienced wellness. 913 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 3: My mom was a nurse, as I mentioned, an orthopedic 914 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: nurse iron and you know, someone brought an idea to 915 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: me around like hey, how do we you know, could 916 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: we do something like this? And doctor Turner and I 917 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: were introduced and we were like, okay, if we were 918 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: to do this, like I want to be able to 919 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: inform people of all of these things that have been 920 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 3: in Hollywood and things like therapeutics of exchange where people 921 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: are taking all the microplastics out of their blood, like 922 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 3: that's something that's like only billionaires do that, but actually no, 923 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: it's pretty affordable and you know you can do that here. 924 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: People don't talk about it, and especially in the black community. 925 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 3: So for me personally in being an investor, initially I 926 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna be a silent investor just in 927 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 3: the background, and then that quickly changed, and I'm. 928 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: Glad it did, because you say, our community does not 929 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: know about these things. I wouldn't have known about it 930 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for you, So thank you for not 931 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: being silent. 932 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: Well, you know, and I'm you know, God put you 933 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: in places where you did it like this was never 934 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: my This was not my idea to be where I 935 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: am as a part of this business. But you know, 936 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: things changed and it made it so that was the opportunity. 937 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: And I was like, there's clearly a reason, and I'm 938 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 3: going to walk in it and you know, to the 939 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: best I can as this vessel. Yeah, and so it's 940 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: amazing because now we just had an open house on 941 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: Saturday and people came in and we learned about we 942 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 3: have IV therapy, we have an AI robotic massage table 943 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: which it's called Escape. 944 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: People love it. 945 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 3: Oh, literally this robots giving you a massage. They learned 946 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 3: all the different massage techniques and I mean I've done 947 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 3: it a bunch of times and I'm like, it really 948 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: is good. It is in ways that you're like, oh, I. 949 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: Didn't know what to expect, but it was amazing. I 950 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: felt really good after words. 951 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: Relax. It is. 952 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: And so even as an owner in Pravida, you know, 953 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 3: I decided to invest in an executive physical because it's 954 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: very much what it's kind of the crux of everything 955 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: that we do. Get all this data about yourself, whether 956 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 3: it's genomics, whether it's your gut health, understanding what vitamins 957 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: you're deficient in, and not just taking random supplements, but 958 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 3: taking supplements that really are for you based on your deficiency. 959 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: I love that you all do the IVY cocktail. 960 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the vitamins that you need, not just pumping 961 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: you with random stuff. 962 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 3: And then for people that may not want IVS, we 963 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: have a partnership with Vitamin Labs. We'll make supplement packets 964 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: for you, personalized below what you need. You have an 965 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: amazing head of imaging and so we have a Texa 966 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: scanner that tells you about your bone density. 967 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh I did that. I had the bones of a 968 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 2: thirty year old. Okay. 969 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: He was like, you don't have any there's no like, no, yeah, 970 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: none of that in your future. 971 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: I was like, come on, lord, you know, but there's 972 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: so many things about yourself you don't know. 973 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: So as a part of our executive physical Word Pernuvo partner, 974 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: if you've see in Perneuvo you get a full body 975 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: MRI and I just didn't. 976 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 2: Coming to do that. 977 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: I wanted I've been wanted to do that because that 978 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: was something that the wealthy was doing to kind of 979 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: get ahead of cancer or know their ailment. 980 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: You have stage one cancer. 981 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: Some people may have brain aneurysms and walk around and 982 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 3: be unaware. And so the idea of preventative health is 983 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 3: something that you know, in America, we're just so used 984 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 3: to reactionary. Time has to go wrong, it's really then 985 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 3: you're then you're sick, and now you're in the system 986 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: trying to get well. Yeah, and so for us, the 987 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 3: whole idea of prevention and they can it personalized. 988 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: To you is really really where we are and then predictive. 989 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: So a lot of it is the data and ultimately, 990 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 3: if you come in and you you know, use our services, 991 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 3: you know. 992 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: More about yourself than your primary care positional. Yeah, that's amazing. 993 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 994 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: I did not know my mother passed away from a 995 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: brain aneurysm. I had no idea those skins would actually 996 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: help with that too, because I had before. Probably I 997 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: haven't had lately, and I don't know if it's because 998 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: of like work stress when I'm working, like when I'm 999 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: filming and stuff. 1000 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 2: But I was having these really bad dizzy spells and. 1001 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: I was like, because when people can have brain amurges 1002 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: and not even know it, that's literally crazy, no idea. Yeah, 1003 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: and I know it's not hereditary, but like to hear 1004 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: that this can actually let me know like what's going 1005 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: on there in my brain as well. 1006 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: I definitely got to do it now. 1007 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean and doctor Turner is phenomenal and then 1008 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: so much. 1009 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 2: I mean, people we talked about like shoulder injuries. Yeah, 1010 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 2: hip I got back problem. 1011 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was like, girl, I was like, I 1012 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 3: don't know what's going on. 1013 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: With my spine. I think I got a slip. 1014 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: Miss You're like, come over and I'm fine now, but 1015 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: now my thumb. I was like, I don't know what 1016 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: is going on. After forty it's like everything just start 1017 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: kicking breaking down. 1018 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm not with you, but this has truly been helpful 1019 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: for me, even just to know where you are for 1020 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 3: a baseline and be able to go back. Absolutely, I'm 1021 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: grateful for it. We're just starting out, and so the 1022 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: goal is really Grope. We want people to come in 1023 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: and learn about it and take a tour and say 1024 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: but you know, ultimately like I want for Vida Health 1025 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 3: everywhere in the state, and that's you know, the long 1026 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 3: term vision, and you know, I hope that if we're 1027 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: doing things the right way and you know, treating people 1028 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 3: well and really ultimately helping them making impact on lives. 1029 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: Right, that's where we'll go. I love that, and I 1030 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: think this is a good time to go. 1031 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 2: Should we go over there. Let's do it. Let's do it. 1032 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: We'll finish this at for Vida Health. We're going on that. 1033 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 7: You and your baby Ragusa, welcome to for Vida Healthy. 1034 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 2: Hey, ladies, this. 1035 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 3: Is our amazing teams Trenise and Andy. 1036 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 5: Yeah we met before. Thank you. 1037 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: Happy to be here, Happy to bring my key to 1038 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: positive city community here so we can learn more about 1039 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: Pavida Health. Super excited for my dear friend Melissa, and 1040 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: excited to show them everything you guys have to offer 1041 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: because it is definitely next level futuristic. 1042 00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 5: That's why I was telling her. 1043 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: I was like, it's just a futuristic experience. So excited 1044 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: to see all you guys have to offer. 1045 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 3: Cool, let's do it. 1046 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 5: Let's get it a lot. 1047 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 6: So as we come back through this store, past the 1048 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 6: massage room, you're gonna see two kind of large medical 1049 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 6: interventions on the right. 1050 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 5: First one over. 1051 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 6: Here is a table we use for diagnostics called dexa 1052 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 6: scanner for the ability to tell you about bone density, 1053 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 6: which is huge, especially as females age. We really focus 1054 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 6: on the prevention of osteopenia and osteoporosis, which is a 1055 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 6: major factor on how well people are moving and continue 1056 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 6: to move by avoiding fractures and. 1057 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 5: Their hipp ands. 1058 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 6: Fine that the bones, Yes, it's like you're probably yeah, 1059 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 6: you're blessed of good habits and probably good genetics as well. 1060 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 4: Ye. 1061 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 6: That leads us to the next port, which is body composition. 1062 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 6: So DEX is the gold standard for body composition, which 1063 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 6: is great. It tells us not just about where your 1064 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 6: muscle is and where your fat is, but also about 1065 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 6: a hidden piece of fat that you can't see on 1066 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 6: the surface called visceral adipose, which is the fat around 1067 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 6: your organs, which almost acts like a hormone that secretes information. 1068 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 6: And so we always pay attention to how much fat 1069 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 6: and how much muscle people have so that they can 1070 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 6: be resilient in age in a healthy way. But making 1071 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 6: sure that we don't have a lot of fat around 1072 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 6: organs is really really critical, and we would treat patients 1073 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 6: differently depending on if there was a lot or a. 1074 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 5: Little of that. 1075 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 6: So as we move kind of past that room, if 1076 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 6: you look over here on the left side, this machine. 1077 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 6: You may have seen an ICU before. It's called a 1078 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 6: TPE or therapeutic plasma exchange. And we've got emerging data 1079 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 6: now that shows there's no other tool in medicine that 1080 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 6: really reduces mold, heavy metals, pesticide, srbosides, and now microplastics 1081 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 6: all together in a single session. We have some patients 1082 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 6: who are coming because there was an Italian study that 1083 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 6: showed you could reduce cognitive decline and like, for me, 1084 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 6: in my face, that's really important. I had a grandfather 1085 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 6: with Alzheimer's grandmother. 1086 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, when we talk about microplastics, there's a lot of 1087 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: studies around drinking from plastic bottles and even microwaving plastics. 1088 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: Is that the type of microplastics that you're talking about? 1089 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 6: Details removed, Yes, And we're finding that they're hidden in 1090 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 6: places maybe we wouldn't even expect. So I could ask 1091 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 6: for a paper cup, but it turns out the paper 1092 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 6: cup is lined with plastic on the inside. So and 1093 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 6: even if I ask for a glass bottle, I heard 1094 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 6: it about the plastic all the cap right, So I 1095 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 6: heard that exactly, and we to what extent those cause disease. 1096 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 6: We're just scratching the surface. But I'll give you one example. 1097 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 6: When we do heart surgery and we take plaques out 1098 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 6: of people's heart, we're finding that microplastics are embedded in 1099 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 6: some of those plaques. So the degree to which they 1100 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 6: cause either disease that we don't think about or disrupt hormones, 1101 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 6: et cetera, those are things that we're still studying and 1102 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 6: learning about in medicine, but I think a lot of 1103 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 6: people are becoming more attuned to how significant they really 1104 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 6: may be. 1105 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what is there prices? You draw the blood out, 1106 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:02,959 Speaker 2: it go through. 1107 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 6: So this would be staffed by a nurse who's done 1108 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 6: this a bunch of times and is excellent because she 1109 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 6: stuck me in. 1110 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 5: She did a great job. Was a painless insertion. 1111 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 6: But you get two big ivs started, and so one 1112 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 6: of those ivs would take out your blood in your plasma. 1113 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 6: It would filter out the dirty plasma with all the 1114 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 6: inflammatory factors in it, and then it would put your 1115 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 6: blood back into your body and the same basically procedure. Okay, 1116 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 6: got it. Yeah, I'd like this experience, so have I. 1117 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 6: But we had a patient who came in Actually he 1118 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 6: wore VR goggles the whole time, so he just hung 1119 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 6: out for a couple hours and got his TPE and 1120 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 6: then took off. 1121 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 5: Deal. 1122 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 6: There's no real yeah, and no real recovery time associated 1123 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 6: with it, but you know, I would say afterwards, I 1124 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 6: kind of felt like I did a hard workout, so 1125 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 6: really Yeah, So I took one night off and I 1126 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 6: was back in the gym the next day. 1127 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 5: Good time. Yeah. Yeah. 1128 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 6: As we keep moving this way, you'll see this semi 1129 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 6: region hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Hyperbaric oxygen kind of became known 1130 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 6: for treating divers who had injuries that stayed. 1131 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 5: Down too long under the ocean. 1132 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 6: Yeah. I supervised the chamber in Florida years ago, and 1133 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 6: then we got interested in it because it improves wound 1134 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 6: heealing really well. So for me, if I'm doing any 1135 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 6: kind of orthopedic procedure for a patient, or especially here 1136 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 6: for our skincare patients, if they come to get chemical 1137 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 6: peels or micro needling or maybe a filler of botox, 1138 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 6: being able to push oxygen under some pressure underneath the 1139 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 6: skin while you have a quote fresh wound a lot 1140 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 6: of times enhances your outcomes, And so we pay attention 1141 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 6: to that because we always say there's a good way 1142 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 6: to treat patients. There's a better way, and there's a 1143 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 6: best way, and really what we're trying to do. 1144 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 5: Is give everybody the best way every time they come in. Yeah, 1145 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 5: as we. 1146 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 6: Keep moving to the side, there's an IV therapy suite. 1147 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 6: You probably familiar with IV therapy because there's a lot 1148 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 6: places that do it. One thing that's unique about how 1149 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 6: we do it is every IV a patient gets here 1150 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 6: is a prescription from me, and that that prescription is 1151 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 6: really based on your unique micronutrient profile. 1152 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 5: So that means the kind of. 1153 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 6: IV you're getting is going to be different from what 1154 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 6: I would get or molistaly because it's going to be 1155 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 6: tailored to your specific physiology, right, and we prevete on 1156 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 6: the mission as always personalization, So we want you to 1157 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 6: have the most effective IV you could get every time 1158 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 6: if you. 1159 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 5: Have a need for that type of therapy. 1160 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 6: Okay, And then as we keep moving down the way, 1161 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 6: we have this kind of very bright light fancy room 1162 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 6: which is aesthetics are done. My room is as a 1163 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 6: little more basic as we as we're doing ORTHO, it's 1164 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 6: a little more straightforward. But this device is called a fluoroscope, 1165 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 6: and so if we have to do an advanced procedure 1166 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 6: for somebody's spine or joints. This giant sea allows you 1167 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 6: to rotate around the body and that allows me to 1168 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 6: capture essentially a three dimensional picture. So it enables me 1169 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 6: to be very very safe in the event that I 1170 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 6: need to do a procedure. It also enables me to 1171 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 6: be highly accurate. So anytime we want to treat something, 1172 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 6: it needs to be guided by an image so we 1173 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 6: know that we're. 1174 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 5: Hitting the right target. 1175 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 6: So we do have a source of doing that without radiation, 1176 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 6: and that is this big ultrasound machine that you see 1177 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 6: over here. I use ultrasound for a couple of other 1178 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 6: purposes to diagnose as well. So a lot of us 1179 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 6: sometimes think that the best way to get a picture 1180 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 6: done is to get an MRI, and MRIs are great 1181 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 6: for some things, but there's still pictures. And so if 1182 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 6: a patient comes in, sometimes they'll say I'm hurting. I'm hurting, 1183 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 6: and I had an MRI and it said I was normal, 1184 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 6: And so I'll say, well, let me put the ultrasound 1185 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,959 Speaker 6: probe on your shoulder or whatever it is and watch 1186 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 6: you actually move. And sometimes we pick up on things 1187 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 6: that we would miss with a still picture, like an MRI, 1188 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 6: so ultrasound gives us an advantage in that regard. And 1189 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 6: then you know, we have a tech come in once 1190 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 6: a week, and nice thing about that is she's trained 1191 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 6: to do heart, liver, kidney, breast overy, pelvis, prostate, et cetera. So, 1192 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 6: especially if someone's coming in here to get surveillance for 1193 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 6: any kind of hormone replacement therapy, we can look at 1194 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 6: all the quote risk factors and really minimize them however possible. 1195 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 4: Right. 1196 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I recently went and got a breast exam, did 1197 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: the normal exam, and they called me back for a 1198 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: second look, and it was the ultrasound that they were 1199 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: able to really get a good look. 1200 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 5: So I understand what you're saying, So let me take 1201 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 5: the ultrasound. 1202 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to help you get a better look 1203 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: into things. 1204 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, And in the United States, I think approximately forty 1205 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 6: percent of women have done spreast tissue that requires ultra 1206 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 6: something and they all get callbacks. And of course, when 1207 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 6: you're in the patient and you go get a scan 1208 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 6: done and they call you back, it makes you nervous. 1209 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: Right an, I was filming when I got that callback, 1210 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 1: So on top of like the anxiety and pressures of work. 1211 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: Then it's also like do I have cancer? You know, 1212 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: and it's never the call that you want to get. 1213 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: But as a patient was also like, why don't you 1214 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: just give if you know I have bitsbruash tissues, just 1215 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: give me an ultrasound instead of taking me through all. 1216 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 5: That, right right? So yeah, so we do use ultrasound 1217 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 5: for that. 1218 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 6: And then and then there are some patients who let's 1219 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 6: say they have a family history of a particular kind 1220 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 6: of cancer or let's say an aneurysm or something that's 1221 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 6: otherwise hard to detect. We will offer them. We have 1222 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 6: a contract with Pernuvo so they can go get full 1223 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 6: body MRIs for surveillance. 1224 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: I just learned that. I knew that you could find 1225 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: out if you may have cancer in any stage with 1226 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: the Pernuvo scanning. But my mother passed away from a 1227 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: brain aneurysm. So when she told me today, I was like, Okay, 1228 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: I really need to get it because I don't know 1229 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: you could also see that if I've had an aneurysm before, 1230 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: that's crazy. 1231 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 6: We have actually a patient in our practice is signed 1232 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 6: up as a member, had a similar story. You know, 1233 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 6: her mother had passed for that and actually found a 1234 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 6: really really tiny one. Right, But now she knows and 1235 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 6: at least she has the opportunity to do something about 1236 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 6: it before it becomes severe. Right, So very much about 1237 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 6: empowering people with data. The more data you have, I think, 1238 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 6: the better you can prepare and make better decisions. 1239 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely that all right, Doug. 1240 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: This is my favorite part. One of my favorite parts 1241 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: of your facility is the escape massage. 1242 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 5: This thing is is crazy. I don't think people are ready. 1243 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 6: We were very proud to roll this out. So we're 1244 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 6: our first people in Georgia to have one. 1245 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: So today we have big fella. 1246 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 5: He is in here. 1247 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: He is about to get a massage. Are you guys ready? Hey, 1248 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: big fella, it's so funny. 1249 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 3: We are all right. 1250 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: So they're going to show you how this is done. 1251 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 1: Because you're hear of the shot. There you go, never 1252 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,760 Speaker 1: took it back to the camera, bright, All right, keep. 1253 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 4: All of that. 1254 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 7: He's gonna give you. 1255 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 4: Is gonna give you a tutorial, alrighty. So you already 1256 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 4: have your clothes on, which are perfect. You'll lay on 1257 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 4: the table on your stomach and your face will go 1258 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 4: in the face rest. Once you get on the table, 1259 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 4: there's gonna be a full onboarding process for you because 1260 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 4: it's as welcome with it'll do a body scan. You 1261 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 4: can change the bolster setting, the headdress, and the arm 1262 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 4: rest setting, all with the touch of a button. You 1263 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 4: can change the pressure, the music that plays, and even 1264 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 4: the video that plays on screen. All right, no problem. 1265 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, So, because we capture so much data on each patient, 1266 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 6: typically we use a screen like this that enables us 1267 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 6: to put all the things up at one time, and 1268 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 6: that makes it easily more understood and visualize so that 1269 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 6: you don't leave thinking, well, gosh, they told me so 1270 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 6: many things and. 1271 00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 5: Now I've lost right. 1272 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 6: So you can see a bunch of different kinds of data, 1273 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 6: and we call this concept to the digital twin. So 1274 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 6: if you look up here, there's two different sets of 1275 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 6: DNA on the far left side we would typically get. 1276 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 6: One is the DNA that you would use from your 1277 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 6: saliva and that's what your mom and dad gave you, 1278 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 6: and the other is actually the DNA of the little 1279 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 6: microbes that inhabit your colon, and we call that the microbiome. 1280 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 6: There's been a lot of evidence about how the interaction 1281 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 6: between the bugs that live in your gut affect your 1282 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 6: immune system and your brain in particular, and so we 1283 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 6: use that as a way to stratify risk. We do 1284 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 6: draw blood and look at micro nutrients. So anybody who 1285 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 6: gets a medicine or a supplement here is getting it 1286 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 6: because we test it in such a way that we 1287 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 6: know your unique. 1288 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 5: Prescription is unique to you. 1289 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 6: We do get exercise data and so you see that 1290 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 6: guy on the bike that's called Yu. 1291 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: No, I gotta do it again. 1292 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 6: Great, it's just well, we'll have to get the music 1293 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 6: a little more hardcore. But yeah, So that tells us 1294 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 6: about how well you breathe in oxygen, how well you 1295 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 6: pump it to your muscles, and then how well your. 1296 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 5: Muscles use it. 1297 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 6: And it used to be we used votwo max for 1298 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 6: athletes who are trying to win races. But we also 1299 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 6: found that for like during COVID, for example, if you 1300 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 6: wanted to be the person who is super sick and 1301 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,879 Speaker 6: you wanted to get out of the hospital and get 1302 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 6: off a ventilator, well, it turns out having a higher 1303 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 6: VO two max predicted your survivability in a better way. 1304 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 6: So on the one hand, it's applicable to pro athletes, 1305 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 6: but on the other hand, it's applical for everybody, Yeah, 1306 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 6: who wants to just have a good quality of life 1307 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 6: and a good health span. 1308 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 5: Can I ask you something treating our COVID. 1309 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: Have you noticed a rise in people with breathing issues 1310 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: after COVID? Because I know, for me, I'm implementing like 1311 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 1: running into my workout schedule now or workout regimen now, 1312 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: and for a while, like I could barely like keep up. 1313 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 5: I was like cutting it off. 1314 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 3: I was like, this is too much. 1315 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: Just even breathing was hard, and even with singing, like 1316 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: I can't hold my breath for as long as I 1317 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 1: used to. And I'm wondering if COVID had any type 1318 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: of implications on that. 1319 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 6: We've definitely seen some patients have longer term pulmonary scarring, 1320 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 6: some little scars on the end side of their lungs, 1321 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 6: depending on how they responded in the severity of the 1322 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 6: disease they had. But you can train that, right, So 1323 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 6: the important part is one recognizing it. And it sounds 1324 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 6: like you have some insight because you're working out all 1325 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 6: the time, so. 1326 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 5: You notice the difference. 1327 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, But then we could test for it, and 1328 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 6: we could program the way that you work out in 1329 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 6: such a way to optimize how much volume you take 1330 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 6: in and out when you breathe and hopefully get you 1331 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 6: past that limitation so you don't notice it. 1332 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot better now, but I know it's 1333 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: like the last two minutes of my move today, my 1334 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: heart was like it felt almost like constricted, like it 1335 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: was like like it hurt. 1336 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,879 Speaker 6: I was like, well, we'll book your VIA two next test. 1337 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: Nice whatever you're yeah. 1338 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1339 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 6: So we do use images, which we talked about a 1340 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 6: little bit. So you see the dexa scan here, ultrasound 1341 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 6: that we talked about over here, and the way we're 1342 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 6: using ultrasound is typically to get an actual picture of 1343 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 6: the inside of. 1344 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 5: Your blood vessels. 1345 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 6: So you know, you draw a cholesterol panel and it's like, well, 1346 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 6: maybe you got black in your arter ease. Maybe you don't, 1347 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 6: we don't really know, but if you take a picture 1348 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 6: of it actually look inside, we can be very confident 1349 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 6: and then the discussion about how we minimize cardiac risk 1350 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 6: becomes much better informed. And you see the whole body 1351 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 6: MRI over here on the right side, which we talked about. 1352 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 5: And we do use some data for wearables. 1353 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 6: So for example, I think Melissa's wearing a glucose monitor 1354 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 6: right now, Melissa is not a diabetic, but we're learning 1355 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 6: about the kinds of food she eats and the order 1356 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 6: in which she eats, and how it affects how you 1357 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 6: release glucose and insulin and how you recover from workouts. 1358 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 6: So we find a lot of meaning from that data. 1359 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 6: And when you put it all together, Really the goal 1360 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 6: is that you know so much now about your individual 1361 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 6: physiology you become the master of them. 1362 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 5: Right. Yeah. 1363 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 6: And there was a paper published related to microbiome called 1364 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 6: the American Gut Project. 1365 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 5: There's a term they used in that paper. 1366 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 6: Called citizens scient Test, and I was like, well, I 1367 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 6: want every patient who comes in the store to become 1368 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 6: a citizen scient test because when they're informed by that 1369 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 6: kind of data, you can make the best decisions for yourself. 1370 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: Well, this has been amazing, very informative. I'm glad we 1371 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: got to come and share your facility with people. I 1372 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: think the older I get, the more I am being 1373 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: more cognizant of my health and making sure I'm taking 1374 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: the proper steps. And especially with this last demonstration, it 1375 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: shows you so much. I recently went to the doctor 1376 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 1: because every time I go for my annual I get 1377 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: blood taken to like around nine panels of blood taken 1378 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: to really see what's going on when I'm defishing in 1379 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: and came back. 1380 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,760 Speaker 2: That I was borderline diabetic. 1381 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,720 Speaker 1: Yes, so when you said you're in the Glue Coast monitor, 1382 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: I was like, hmm, that may be something I need 1383 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: to do as well, just to make sure that those 1384 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: levels are changing. I recently took on fasting this month 1385 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: and I was doing a sixteen to eight or yes, yes, 1386 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: six to eighteen yeah, in a manifesting windows so eighteen 1387 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: hours I'm not eating, and then up from twelve to 1388 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 1: six I'll eat. I wanted to ask you how sustainable 1389 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: is it? Can that be a lifestyle or is that 1390 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: something that you shouldn't try to do. 1391 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 6: No, I think it's been sustainable for a lot of people. 1392 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 3: For me. 1393 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 6: You know, we use like and Melissa know something called 1394 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 6: a fasting mimicking diet, which is like a five day protocol. 1395 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 6: We see other people who do twelve twelves. We see 1396 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 6: people who do other intervals besides sixteen eight. I've had 1397 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 6: people do one meal a day, which I would not 1398 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 6: be good at doing, but some people really like that, right, 1399 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,919 Speaker 6: So I do think. 1400 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 5: There's a lot of data to support that. And if 1401 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 5: you find that it fits your lifestyle. 1402 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: I have found that I have so much energy. I 1403 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: don't know what that is on it's come resting more. 1404 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 5: I'm going to bed. 1405 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: Earlier and waking up earlier and making sure I work 1406 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:52,959 Speaker 1: out every day. 1407 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: But this is my second week, and. 1408 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,240 Speaker 1: Normally around twelve one o'clock or even like around sometimes 1409 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: around at two three o'clock window, I'll feel a crash coming. 1410 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: And I have not felt that in this past two weeks. 1411 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: I used to joke around saying it was nap time 1412 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 1: like that when we were. 1413 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 5: In school where we have to go to sleep. 1414 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 1: I was like, maybe this is just kind of carried 1415 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: on into adulthood. But I feel like it was my 1416 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: eating habits and even my schedule and not resting enough. 1417 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: But I did want to know if that's something that's sustainable. 1418 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think to your point, if you were 1419 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 6: to study that phenomenon you just described with a glucose monitor, 1420 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 6: what you would probably find, and I know this from 1421 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 6: personal experience, is that time when you felt like it 1422 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 6: was nap time, it's probably because you had a big 1423 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 6: glucose swing up and then a big swing the opposite 1424 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 6: way after your insulin was released. So it's that low 1425 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 6: period that gets you feeling like, oh, it's after lunch 1426 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 6: and men a coma. 1427 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1428 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 6: Right, but it sounds like you're, you know, mastering your 1429 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 6: own faith because with the sixteen eight window, it sounds 1430 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 6: like you're not having the crash, which is great. 1431 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. So since we got here, I had 1432 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: my lunch with me. As soon as it strike the 1433 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: clock strikes club, I was like, because I didn't want 1434 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: to be in here, like, oh no, I'm sorry. 1435 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 3: You know what's so interesting is I told you as 1436 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 3: you know, becoming a part of Pravita, I decided to 1437 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 3: get an executive membership for myself to do the executive physical. 1438 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 3: So doctor Turner mentioned, I've never worn a glue coast monitor. 1439 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 2: My mom was diabetic my entire life. 1440 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 3: She actually had your stational diabetes when she had me. Wow, 1441 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 3: And so I've always seen her shooting slant and just 1442 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 3: that was the norm. So putting on this glue coast monitor, 1443 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 3: I was telling dow to Turner. The first week I 1444 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 3: had it, those swings up down that time, I saw it, 1445 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 3: and then I did a five day the Prolo fast 1446 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 3: and it was even the entire time while I was 1447 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,919 Speaker 3: fast and I felt amazing and I'm like wow, he said, 1448 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 3: it was like, now you have the data and it 1449 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 3: shows you sleeping better, like all of the things connected. 1450 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 3: So understanding like how fasting and the benefits of that, 1451 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 3: but also seeing how it impacts those are things I 1452 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 3: would have never been privy to really understanding with the 1453 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 3: data behind it without going through this process. 1454 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: So the glue coast monitors, it's something that you like 1455 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: have to like super tiny did her right here? 1456 00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 4: Not? 1457 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 5: He had to put a on for me. I was like, 1458 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 5: I can't do it. 1459 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I didn't feel it. 1460 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 5: Oh, it's so easy. Maybe when you don't know, you 1461 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 5: don't know. Yes, that's a normal feeling. How long do 1462 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 5: you keep it on? 1463 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 3: The one that we have last for fifteen days, so 1464 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 3: you know you can do it once, you can do 1465 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 3: it twice. But being able to see over time and 1466 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 3: then you can take a picture of what do you 1467 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 3: eat so you understand where. 1468 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: Those highs and lows come from. 1469 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 5: Right, And then for me, I wore it. 1470 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,439 Speaker 6: I mean I was still doing crossfits, I was doing 1471 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 6: pull ups and overhead squats. Didn't interfere with me at all. 1472 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 6: And then of course when people around you see you 1473 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 6: doing it, they're like, what is that? 1474 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I want that, right, I want. 1475 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 6: Michael Goes to be better than yours. Good competition, right, 1476 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 6: But it becomes a team, and I think, you know, 1477 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 6: people engaged in a common pursuit, they hold each other 1478 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 6: accountable and that community. 1479 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 5: Is very powerful. Absolutely, and that's really what we're here 1480 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 5: to create, is powering community. Yeah, I love it. 1481 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: Yes, So tell the people where you guys are, where 1482 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: they can find you. We want to say as many 1483 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: people as we can your way so that we all 1484 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: can live a bit better, healthier lifestyle. 1485 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 1486 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1487 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 6: We're on the south side of Buckhead, close to Piedmont 1488 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 6: Atlanta Hospital. I address eighteen oh one Peachtree Street, Northeast 1489 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 6: Sweet one fifty. We have a beautiful video about how 1490 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 6: to come in if you're coming in for the first time. 1491 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 5: I'm free parking, so that's great. 1492 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 3: We love reparking parking in Atlanta. 1493 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Fafriena dot com. 1494 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 3: We're on Instagram, We're on Facebook, we're on LinkedIn. You 1495 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 3: can see all the information testimonials. I think the people 1496 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 3: who are coming in are really having an impact and 1497 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 3: a stoptor trying to mention we're trying to create that community. 1498 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 3: So thank you for coming. You are now part of 1499 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 3: our community. 1500 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 5: I love it. Thank you guys so much, Thank you 1501 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 5: so much. I appreciate it. 1502 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, we just finished our very first kifts Field trip. 1503 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: I hope you all had an amazing time touring the 1504 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: Parvida Health Facility with me. I know I did, I've 1505 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: been there before, but today I learned so much more. 1506 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 1: What I want you, guys to focus on is getting 1507 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: in front of your health issues versus trying to catch 1508 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: up with them. 1509 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 2: All right in the meantime in between time. 1510 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Keep it positive, sweeties, and remember share this episode with 1511 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: someone who use a little positivity. 1512 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 2: Have a good one. See you next time.