Speaker 1: What's up, family, it's your girl. To Nika d. Mallory,
Speaker 1: that's your boy, my son in general, and we're your
Speaker 1: hosts of street politicians, the place with the streets and politics. Me,
Speaker 1: you are a birthday boy. How are you feeling baby?
Speaker 1: One years old? I'm feeling lessed and holly favored man. Um.
Speaker 1: Another year around the sun, man, you know I'm here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: another year around this And I love that in your
Speaker 1: birthday post you said that you love you And that's
Speaker 1: what it's all about right now, is loving ourselves. You know.
Speaker 1: When when I was at the Billboard Music Awards, Mary
Speaker 1: had a powerful speech, so you know, of course there's
Speaker 1: much to be said about what happened to me. Yes,
Speaker 1: she was celebrated. Did he give you what? We talk
Speaker 1: about that? Before we talk about that? Um. Mary was
Speaker 1: speaking and and I was gonna say that Mary and
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson in the same place blew my mind. I
Speaker 1: mean I was totally starstruck. But anyway, so Mary was
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, she finally found her true love,
Speaker 1: and she said, my true love is me. She said.
Speaker 1: People ask, you know, who's managing Mary now? And she
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm managing Mary, you know, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was just such a powerful message, you
Speaker 1: know that just like we've had other trends, you know,
Speaker 1: now there's the trend of people trying to take better
Speaker 1: care of their mental health because you know, of course
Speaker 1: that's not something that we did in the past. It
Speaker 1: was looked at as a stigma to go to the
Speaker 1: you know, a therapist and all of that. But there's
Speaker 1: a trend that has happened where people are, you know,
Speaker 1: starting to take care of themselves and think more about
Speaker 1: their mental well being. And I think the new trend
Speaker 1: that I would love for us to be on is
Speaker 1: just this idea of loving ourselves and building ourselves up.
Speaker 1: And you know, because this world is like trying to
Speaker 1: tear every single thing around us down, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think we have to be encouraging ourselves and our
Speaker 1: children to love yourself, as my auntie would say, love yourself.
Speaker 1: So happy birthday to you. You look young, but you old. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: You're only as old as you feel. Man. I'm seasoned.
Speaker 1: I'm a seasoned young vetman. So and I'm feeling good, man,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling real good and God bless man. So that's
Speaker 1: back to your Billboard Awards. Crazy, you had a beautiful honor. Crazy.
Speaker 1: It was just it was crazy how it happened, Like
Speaker 1: you mice, I'm about to do this, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? I need I gotta do this. Did
Speaker 1: he want me to come here and like all of
Speaker 1: this stuff? Man? But it was well deserved. Man. You
Speaker 1: looked up then, you look marvelous. You said would needed
Speaker 1: to be said in and out, you know, and and
Speaker 1: he said real powerful words about you know, giving your
Speaker 1: flowers and you know you always showing up and being
Speaker 1: on the front lines and you know, and you're our leaders,
Speaker 1: so we already know that you know the world. I'm
Speaker 1: glad that the world gets to see for us until freedom.
Speaker 1: You know, we we we witness every day. So congratulations
Speaker 1: to that. Thank you. It was really a heart like
Speaker 1: a touching moment for me. Um. You know backstage, I
Speaker 1: cried hard. I almost cried on the stage and Tarak,
Speaker 1: my son, he says, um, oh yeah, Mom, I could
Speaker 1: I saw him in your face and you were gonna cry.
Speaker 1: You know, he knows me. I was like holding back
Speaker 1: to it because that good old makeup that I had
Speaker 1: from my home girls that got me together in twenty
Speaker 1: four hour. It was less than twenty four hours. They
Speaker 1: got me together in Vegas, shout out to my girl, breathe,
Speaker 1: and um, you know I I wanted to really like
Speaker 1: in that moment, I was like wow, like not tears
Speaker 1: of sadness, but tears of like pride. I think I
Speaker 1: was also proud that he was able to do it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like the fact that
Speaker 1: Puff was able to use the Billboard Awards and just
Speaker 1: basically go off script and give me a Revolt Award,
Speaker 1: which is his own network, during the show in front
Speaker 1: of millions of international viewers. It just was it was
Speaker 1: like so powerful, and like you said, I was in
Speaker 1: San Francisco speaking to a group of black women, which
Speaker 1: was also super powerful, and I got a call from
Speaker 1: him saying I need you to be in Vegas. And
Speaker 1: the thing is, it wasn't like I could just get there,
Speaker 1: you know the next day. You had to get tested
Speaker 1: COVID tested within a certain amount of time, and in
Speaker 1: order for me to get that test, I had to
Speaker 1: actually leave San Francisco immediately, get on the flight go
Speaker 1: to Vegas. I mean, it was just it was a
Speaker 1: lot and those kinds of experience. And then oh and
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything in my suitcase to wear, so
Speaker 1: all of that stuff I had to figure out. But
Speaker 1: those types of experiences are the ones you never forget.
Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful to my brother Puff for one
Speaker 1: being a partner in a fight, but also for using
Speaker 1: such a big platform to give me my flowers. It's
Speaker 1: just something I'll never ever ever forget. It's a beautiful moment.
Speaker 1: And it's just so crazy, Mice, because it's like, it's
Speaker 1: your birthday. You're trying to enjoy, you know, your time.
Speaker 1: I received this powerful award, and yet hanging over our
Speaker 1: heads is the darkness of our people being massacreed in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: New York. H oh going, you know, and it's just
Speaker 1: like you can't even celebrate without something terrible happening. Even
Speaker 1: to the point where in trying to celebrate the award
Speaker 1: also in you know, wanting to celebrate you and your birthday,
Speaker 1: I was I struggled with the right post, you know,
Speaker 1: the right things to say at a time when people
Speaker 1: are so hurt and broken. It is really really I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I don't know, Mice, I just don't
Speaker 1: know what to say. I mean, it's it's a lot, man.
Speaker 1: You know, like you said, my birthday, the massacre of
Speaker 1: you know, these ten people, and then today you wake
Speaker 1: up and they killed a little girl in the rox
Speaker 1: shout out and stommaking, and and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: and I just put a post up, like at what
Speaker 1: point do we wake up? Man? Like you see, we
Speaker 1: realize that white supremacy wants us dead, so they you know,
Speaker 1: you have white supremacists that come in our neighborhoods, it's
Speaker 1: killing us. We got pull least that that dress up.
Speaker 1: We got white supremacists dressed up as police that's trying
Speaker 1: to kill us. And then we in our own communities
Speaker 1: taking out our own soldiers and our own babies. Like
Speaker 1: this is overwhelming, man, It's over woman. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I realized that hurt people, hurt people. You know, then
Speaker 1: you've got people attacking everybody because they confused, they don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. And it's just like we just
Speaker 1: we just we really lead a moment to really just
Speaker 1: just just think and take it all in man, because
Speaker 1: I I can't process it, Like I don't have the problem.
Speaker 1: Just last week I had to go a kid was
Speaker 1: shot in my neighborhood, you know. And I had to
Speaker 1: go in front of the store that I go to,
Speaker 1: that me and my kids go to on a daily
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So there and and and
Speaker 1: there's actual video, the video that I'm trying to put
Speaker 1: back into his body, and it's just like it's just
Speaker 1: too much, like we are really dealing this is the pandemic,
Speaker 1: this is the pandemic and epidemic, and it's it's so much,
Speaker 1: you know, We're overwhelmed. Man. So I don't even know
Speaker 1: the right words to say. I don't know what to do,
Speaker 1: but I know we have to do something. I know
Speaker 1: that we really have to be strategic and intentional about
Speaker 1: doing something to try to stop to believe it begin
Speaker 1: to being intentional. Uh. We have our our brother from
Speaker 1: Buffalo coming up as a guest today and really just
Speaker 1: want to take this show and just do a special
Speaker 1: today where we're not talking about all the things that
Speaker 1: we generally do, you know, UM, and just focus on
Speaker 1: what the people the local community in Buffalo with is needed. UM.
Speaker 1: I think we should bring him on. So for all
Speaker 1: the guests who are tuned in, listening in and watching UM.
Speaker 1: First of all, Jamale Cruise is our brother. Um. You
Speaker 1: guys know we have a running thing on this show
Speaker 1: about having our friends. We've got friends all across the
Speaker 1: country doing amazing things, amazing work. And Jamal Cruise is
Speaker 1: an organizer, UM an activists and also a businessman. They're
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, in the community where this terrible massacre took place.
Speaker 1: Um and Jamal, I just first of all, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine your own mental health like where you are in
Speaker 1: this moment, living in a community and being there all
Speaker 1: the time, and having an office that is right there
Speaker 1: in the vicinity for where this shooting took place, having
Speaker 1: a wife and a brand new baby who could have
Speaker 1: been at the at the office that day and just
Speaker 1: needed to run across the street to the store. You
Speaker 1: just don't know. And I know you probably are thinking
Speaker 1: about all the scenarios of one of the folks who died,
Speaker 1: but also how you could have been one of them,
Speaker 1: your staff members. And I just want to say to
Speaker 1: you that my heart like is so broken and I'm
Speaker 1: just I don't know the right words to say to
Speaker 1: you and the community there, but just know that you
Speaker 1: have love and support from people around the nation so well,
Speaker 1: certainly appreciate that, UM, as you guys can imagine. UM,
Speaker 1: it's a mixed bag of emotions right now. We went
Speaker 1: through you know, I know me personally, just went through
Speaker 1: an entire range of emotions, you know, shock, um anger, frustration,
Speaker 1: you know, questioning how this happened in our community. We
Speaker 1: see this stuff happening all the time right across the country,
Speaker 1: but you never think, you know, you never think that
Speaker 1: it had happened in your community, in your backyard. And
Speaker 1: the fact that again that it happened right outside of office.
Speaker 1: I have an office space right next door to where
Speaker 1: this where this incident happened, and like you said, I
Speaker 1: could have been there. I usually work on Saturdays. You know,
Speaker 1: my people from my team were in the office at
Speaker 1: the time when it happened. You know, I had one
Speaker 1: of one one of my guys who was who was there.
Speaker 1: You know, I was talking to him throughout the day
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and he told me he was, like one
Speaker 1: of the guys who was in the office. There's a
Speaker 1: corner store, like right across the street from where this
Speaker 1: incident happened. One of the young men who was there,
Speaker 1: he went across the street to that store. Um, just
Speaker 1: to grab something to drink, and as he's coming out,
Speaker 1: he's hearing the gunshots and he's seeing bodies laying on
Speaker 1: the ground, you know. So and again that could have
Speaker 1: been me. I was actually supposed to be going to
Speaker 1: my office on that Saturday because I had to drop
Speaker 1: offs from stuff there. But you know, unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 1: my wife was sick at the time and I was
Speaker 1: you know, tending to her, so that's why I wasn't there,
Speaker 1: you know. But again that me, I really I literally
Speaker 1: arrived moments after the situation happened. Wow. Know when when
Speaker 1: you look at it on the news, you know, we
Speaker 1: we we unfortunately this is we have to deal with
Speaker 1: this work all the time. One of my closest friends
Speaker 1: is from Buffalo, and he was telling me how, you know,
Speaker 1: he this is the regular supermarket most of the people
Speaker 1: in that area to go to, and it's frequently by
Speaker 1: mainly black people. So I just want to get a
Speaker 1: kind of feel like, what are people feeling? Is it
Speaker 1: really dreary time out there? Power the people responded, you know,
Speaker 1: again it's it's still uh large, the level of shock
Speaker 1: that's like that's taking place right now, because again, you
Speaker 1: don't think that this is going to happen in your community.
Speaker 1: You know, as you stated, you know, the neighborhood that
Speaker 1: this this supermarket is in might of the people that
Speaker 1: live there are black people, right, So this is uh,
Speaker 1: this is a large uh. And we have a huge
Speaker 1: black population here in the city of Buffalo Train to
Speaker 1: what a lot of people might think or feel about
Speaker 1: the city. We have a huge concentration of people of
Speaker 1: color here in the city is actually a majority minority city,
Speaker 1: you know. So, um, but for that particular area, you know,
Speaker 1: and for that to happen, First of all, that supermarket
Speaker 1: is the only one in the entire neighborhood. If that
Speaker 1: supermarket wasn't there, that that neighborhood would be a food desert.
Speaker 1: So people rely on that supermarket, you know, going there
Speaker 1: to get fresh fruits and vegetables, you know, to being
Speaker 1: able to do those things. If not, they will be
Speaker 1: having to get their their their their groceries from the
Speaker 1: corner store. Right. So that's why it is so important
Speaker 1: that we you know, that that that that supermarket was
Speaker 1: over there, you know, so and you know, and there
Speaker 1: was a political like struggle to get that supermarket open,
Speaker 1: right I think absolutely. Yeah, So people really fought to
Speaker 1: make sure that the supermarket was in the community. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and and that, and I think you know,
Speaker 1: and this the supermarket open back like two thousand to
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, And you gotta think during that time,
Speaker 1: you know, on Buffalo, you know, we weren't as as
Speaker 1: much of a progressive city as we are now, right,
Speaker 1: you know, they were still I mean, it's it's still
Speaker 1: very much so heavily segregated city. Um you know, I'm
Speaker 1: one of the most segregated cities in the country actually,
Speaker 1: you know so. Um So at that time though, you know,
Speaker 1: you had that the power structure in place, wanting to
Speaker 1: keep things, wanting to keep that status quo in place,
Speaker 1: so they wanted to keep the black people down and
Speaker 1: you know, and and other people elevated, you know. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, there was there was a collective effort at
Speaker 1: the time with the without current mayor, who was a
Speaker 1: city councilman in that district at the time, to to
Speaker 1: bring that grocery store in the area. You know. So
Speaker 1: that's why I was really important because again when I
Speaker 1: tell you guys, it's literally like no supermarkets within a
Speaker 1: several mile radius. I mean, it's actually the only supermarket
Speaker 1: on the East side of Buffalo, the only one, and
Speaker 1: if you know anything about Buffalo, the east side is
Speaker 1: predominantly African American unpopulated, you know. So and it's like
Speaker 1: you gotta wonder, you know, maybe I'm being a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theorist or whatever they however they say it, but you
Speaker 1: gotta wonder whether or not he as the shooter really targeted,
Speaker 1: not just like oh yeah, I think I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to this store, but like whether he knew some of
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, and then who else did he
Speaker 1: communicate with that potentially helped him choose where to go,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm I'm unwilling to let these be stand
Speaker 1: off issues, stand alone issues where oh, just some crazy
Speaker 1: person went out and did I believe it is an
Speaker 1: attack that is coordinated happening, you know, somewhere, and it's
Speaker 1: it's being organized because it's just too it's too much
Speaker 1: of a sweet spot for him to live three hours
Speaker 1: away and just happened to come to Buffalo and choose
Speaker 1: this particular store to make it. It's not a it's
Speaker 1: not a conspiracy theory whatsoever, he actually stated, you know.
Speaker 1: And and and there are being reports that have come out
Speaker 1: where he actually stated that he studied the census map
Speaker 1: in that area. He studied the sense didn't read the manifesto.
Speaker 1: So okay, this is this is a well coordinated attack
Speaker 1: that took place at Wow. I really want to know what.
Speaker 1: I really want to know what level of poison a
Speaker 1: mind has to be fed to to have this level
Speaker 1: of coordination, to do this level of evil, Like to
Speaker 1: really coordinate this level of evil? How does the mind?
Speaker 1: What do they feed into these kids? These are kids
Speaker 1: like literally eighteen, Like, what do they feed into these
Speaker 1: kids that they literally have poisoned them to the point
Speaker 1: where they commit atrocities. Listen, this is not this is
Speaker 1: not something that um like you said it was a
Speaker 1: one off. This is this isn't something that you know,
Speaker 1: you had this one person who just was maybe saw
Speaker 1: some stuff online and just was indoctrinated. No, this stuff
Speaker 1: was taught at home. Man, This stuff was thought at
Speaker 1: home and and it was taught about and it was
Speaker 1: in his theory that I did read. The white replacement
Speaker 1: theory is being taught on Fox News by Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. The Great Replacement, the replacement of
Speaker 1: legacy American strategy is to change the demographics of the country,
Speaker 1: and you disempower the people who live here, you take
Speaker 1: their votes away. Democratic Party is trying to replace the
Speaker 1: current electorate. How precisely is diversity our strength? Since you've
Speaker 1: made this our new national motto, please be specific as
Speaker 1: you explain it. Can you think, for example, of other
Speaker 1: institutions such as I don't know, marriage or military units
Speaker 1: in which the less people have in common, the more
Speaker 1: cohesive are Do you get along better with your neighbors
Speaker 1: or your co workers if you can't understand each other
Speaker 1: or share no common values. So he to your point,
Speaker 1: this is being ingrained in his mind. Yes, yes, you know.
Speaker 1: So again this is not a one off situation. You know,
Speaker 1: with all of the media around, Like you said, you
Speaker 1: you just referenced Tucker Carlson. You know he had over
Speaker 1: four hundred references of this replacement theory over the last
Speaker 1: couple of years, you know what I mean? So between
Speaker 1: that and this the stuff you're finding out online, and
Speaker 1: I promise you know this stuff is self taught, and
Speaker 1: this stuff is learned at home. These are learned behaviors,
Speaker 1: you know, these are learned behaviors. So so this is
Speaker 1: you know, So this is we've really got to sit
Speaker 1: back and really think about like that, you know, like
Speaker 1: how do how do we how what? How do you
Speaker 1: get to a point when you get that much and doctrinator,
Speaker 1: you have that much evil in your heart that you
Speaker 1: wanna and flip this much pain on the community. I
Speaker 1: had a chance that somebody told me, guys not to
Speaker 1: watch the not to watch the full video. Right I
Speaker 1: saw the full video and it completely broke me. It
Speaker 1: completely broke me, you know, because these are some of
Speaker 1: the most vulnerable people that you're talking about. You're talking
Speaker 1: about elders in our community, seventy plus year old women,
Speaker 1: people's grandmothers, mothers, uncle's, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: and to see, you know, the harm he inflicted. I
Speaker 1: mean I literally when I watched that video that night,
Speaker 1: I literally cried myself to sleep. I cried myself to sleep.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a big emotional person like that, but
Speaker 1: I couldn't unsee what I saw. It's still to this,
Speaker 1: to this very moment, I still cannot see what I saw. So,
Speaker 1: I mean it hurts, it doesn't you know what When
Speaker 1: I hear you asked the question what level of like
Speaker 1: coordination and what goes into your mind for you to
Speaker 1: commit such evil. I think you forget where we just
Speaker 1: came from last month. But and I'm saying, and I
Speaker 1: say that because of that, because that's what I said,
Speaker 1: you know, when I sat into went too Almina Dungeons,
Speaker 1: you know, formerly known as castles the most But when
Speaker 1: I sat in there and we got the history and
Speaker 1: understood how people have been treated, killed and slaved and
Speaker 1: and just all the things that were done, That's what
Speaker 1: went through my mind. And like I said, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: never going to not think that because I don't have
Speaker 1: a soul of that has no empathy or no that
Speaker 1: doesn't have any kind of remorse. Like my spirit cannot
Speaker 1: even fathom the level of evil that we'll be talking about, right,
Speaker 1: And it is normal. This is like you know, every
Speaker 1: year to years we got man shootings, you know, kids
Speaker 1: in schools now are supermarkets, churches, you know, And I
Speaker 1: don't and I want to, and I really be trying
Speaker 1: to understand. I'd be like, you know, and and how
Speaker 1: do you people that much? How do you Because it
Speaker 1: wasn't because he had empathy for for the white person man,
Speaker 1: white man, white man, and that's something I don't want
Speaker 1: people to miss that. I don't know if there's another
Speaker 1: white man that was shot. And I know there's two
Speaker 1: white victims, right, but I don't and I know one
Speaker 1: is a white woman who's deceased. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the other person, white woman died too, right, But but
Speaker 1: there's another white person who was also shot. And I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if that person is a man or woman
Speaker 1: and whether they have lived or not. It might have
Speaker 1: been that that man that he said sorry too, he
Speaker 1: probably shot him and then said sorry. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think that made me completely spared. But it needs
Speaker 1: to interview him and just and because I want to
Speaker 1: know what his what his mind stated, How how does
Speaker 1: he feel like? Is there some survivors guilt remorse? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the problem is it has to be. It
Speaker 1: has to be because it just like when you see
Speaker 1: that your life has been been spared the way I
Speaker 1: mean the dude literally went up to him, pointed the
Speaker 1: gun at him. He looked and he was like, oh sorry,
Speaker 1: and then ran away, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: that's that's just the same because this guy was very
Speaker 1: intentional about going and trying to inflict harm on as
Speaker 1: many black people as he possibly could period period and
Speaker 1: that period. And that's what I'm saying. It's important for
Speaker 1: us to know what is the gender of the other
Speaker 1: white person who was killed or shot injured, because what
Speaker 1: appears to me is that he or what is a
Speaker 1: parent to me is that when he saw a white man,
Speaker 1: he retreated m Because there is also right, which we
Speaker 1: we're not going to I want to be Cashadow, We're
Speaker 1: not gonna make that point, but we're gonna point out
Speaker 1: the fact. But because because women in general, sexism in
Speaker 1: general is an issue that these white men had right,
Speaker 1: so they'll they'll kill their own women men they will spare. Now.
Speaker 1: The sad part, though, is that when we try to
Speaker 1: organize with white women to help save even themselves, they
Speaker 1: will still overwhelmingly support the white overwhelmingly who will kill
Speaker 1: them with no problem, take away their right to have abortions,
Speaker 1: won't pay them equally. All of that, and yet and
Speaker 1: still that when it's time to vote for their white man,
Speaker 1: they're who their their white supremacist husband, they stand with
Speaker 1: them overwhelmingly fifty three. So white women, they're not doing
Speaker 1: enough work. And that's why I need to know, because
Speaker 1: when somebody gives me what I think is true, I'm
Speaker 1: going on every platform I can to talk about the
Speaker 1: fact that white women, y'all still keep on siding with
Speaker 1: your husbands. Meanwhile, homeboys stood right there and looked at
Speaker 1: a white man and said, oh, I'm so sorry, You're
Speaker 1: not my target, and I don't care what y'all tell me.
Speaker 1: There is no way that an eighteen year old child
Speaker 1: study the max by himself and been has been studying
Speaker 1: white replacement theory alone. It's not true. So that means
Speaker 1: that he's a part of a sell it's listen, that's
Speaker 1: very that's very accurate. Um, we know this to be true, right,
Speaker 1: but the question is what are we doing to combat it? Right?
Speaker 1: Because there have been multiple reports over and over again
Speaker 1: saying how white supremacy is is the greatest threat to
Speaker 1: domestic terrorism in this country, but yet we aren't doing
Speaker 1: anything about it. So we want to know, you know,
Speaker 1: what's your plan for Like, let's let's talk to the government.
Speaker 1: What's your plan to combat this issue. What's the budget
Speaker 1: look like, what's the staff look like. I mean, you
Speaker 1: got all this stuff for all these anti terrorism, homeland
Speaker 1: security stuff, you know, for you know, people outside of
Speaker 1: the country who don't look like us. But when you
Speaker 1: when you get on this and and and explicitly state
Speaker 1: that you know, the greatest threat to democracy here in
Speaker 1: this country is white supremacy and white terrorism. But you're
Speaker 1: not doing anything about it. You're part of the problem.
Speaker 1: Well let me but let me give y'all this is
Speaker 1: a point. Right. So this guy had already been in
Speaker 1: trouble I think a year ago because he um he
Speaker 1: threatened to shoot up a school. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was his school or a school, but yeah, it
Speaker 1: was his school because some students overheard him talking about it.
Speaker 1: I think he wrote some stuff online. So he was
Speaker 1: already arrested. They did some mental health check on him,
Speaker 1: and they released him right and sent him back to
Speaker 1: into the world. Now check this. Let's put a pen
Speaker 1: right there and look at the nine year old boy
Speaker 1: who walks across the street to a black family's house.
Speaker 1: A white boy, a white nine year old child, walks
Speaker 1: across the street to a black family's house looking for
Speaker 1: their daughter, their nine year old daughter, and uses a
Speaker 1: whit hitting their car and the door right, and this
Speaker 1: lady has to tell him to get the hell out
Speaker 1: of there. Then the father goes over to the white
Speaker 1: family's house. The black father goes to the white family's house,
Speaker 1: and the white man pulls a gun out on this
Speaker 1: black man because his child went over to their house
Speaker 1: threatening this black family. Police, Oh, where they're gonna move soon,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. So, now here's the parallel. You've
Speaker 1: got a boy who threatens to shoot up a school.
Speaker 1: What do they do? Send him back into society? They
Speaker 1: do nothing. To your point, what are we going to do?
Speaker 1: At what point does a child who even mentioned something
Speaker 1: about shooting a school become a target that has to
Speaker 1: be somehow another dealt with. Right, then, you've got a
Speaker 1: kid nine years old who already he's already the eighteen
Speaker 1: year old, he's already on his way to being the
Speaker 1: eighteen year old. What did the police do? Nothing? So
Speaker 1: I understand when the people of Buffalo say, what the
Speaker 1: hell are elected officials and and Joe Biden all these people,
Speaker 1: what are you coming here for? Because you're coming to
Speaker 1: do the prayer digil? But the prayer vigil is not enough.
Speaker 1: We need action on these issues. And to your point,
Speaker 1: the resources need to be coming down into our community.
Speaker 1: So that we can protect ourselves. That's a fact. So
Speaker 1: one of the things that I think that's at our
Speaker 1: advantage right now is that, you know, we have the
Speaker 1: the attention of people in power, and people are asking
Speaker 1: us what do what do we want? What do we need?
Speaker 1: And okay, so we're gonna tell them. We're going to
Speaker 1: give them a plan of action on what we want
Speaker 1: and what we need and really, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: hold their feet to the fire, you know, like, are
Speaker 1: are you going to step up? Because time and time
Speaker 1: again we've seen them happen over and over again when
Speaker 1: these mass shootings happen, you know, their thoughts and prayers,
Speaker 1: their visuals, but when the cameras go away, it's just
Speaker 1: the energy just dies down and then it's just it's
Speaker 1: just on to the next one. Right, So we need
Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, okay, you know if if
Speaker 1: first of all, what our plan of vaction is going
Speaker 1: to be, and we have to be cohesive and in
Speaker 1: our messaging, and we have to be on one of
Speaker 1: court without messaging, and then once we do that, you know,
Speaker 1: we hold we hold these people accountable. Like if you
Speaker 1: if you say that you're gonna you know that you're
Speaker 1: there to support us and then you know, and provide
Speaker 1: us the resources. Okay, this is exactly what we need,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think right now again, because we
Speaker 1: have the attention of everyone, we want to make sure
Speaker 1: that you know that we're capitalizing on that. You have
Speaker 1: to man, it's it's it's just like I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm just having lost two words, man, because everybody makes
Speaker 1: these things political, you know, the leftist, the right, and
Speaker 1: it's like, how do you support anything right, any organization,
Speaker 1: any system or anything that furthest is that perpetuation? Like
Speaker 1: when you were talking about Fox News and Tucker causin,
Speaker 1: like it's sometimes me and Tom could watch Fox News
Speaker 1: just to see how crazy people are literally do later
Speaker 1: because we have to understand what the open enemy is doing.
Speaker 1: We have to understand what they're thinking. So when you
Speaker 1: hear what Tucker Carson says like this, and we'd be like,
Speaker 1: you're this man is bugged out. They're not taking it
Speaker 1: as bugged out. These young kids are taking it and
Speaker 1: then write it down and they're living their life and
Speaker 1: then there's somebody else programming them and then and they
Speaker 1: really actually carrying out mass acts of destruction in massacre
Speaker 1: against us and we have to be aware like at
Speaker 1: this point when you you know, unfortunately, when we in
Speaker 1: our communities before, we used to look at see a
Speaker 1: white boy, what are you doing the hood? Like we
Speaker 1: gotta be real scared now. But the white boy walking
Speaker 1: into the hood, you gotta be you know, you it
Speaker 1: gotta it gotta be a whole different reaction. That's how
Speaker 1: it was the other day. That's how it was the
Speaker 1: other day when I was there on Saturday and on Sunday,
Speaker 1: you know, at the scene of this situation that happened,
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you, I'm I'm side
Speaker 1: and all the white people that's there. Because it's a
Speaker 1: copy copy. These copycat murders, they happen all the time.
Speaker 1: They don't just happen one, you know, it don't do
Speaker 1: it's usually another one directly, I think, because somebody wants
Speaker 1: to copy it. But like we are in dangerous species.
Speaker 1: Like this ship is really crazy to me, Like I
Speaker 1: really every time things and it gets closer and closer,
Speaker 1: you know, you know. Unfortunately, I was locked up in Orleans,
Speaker 1: which is by Buffalo, so I got a lot of
Speaker 1: Buffalo friends and a lot of people I know from
Speaker 1: Buffalo so you know a lot of them. I've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends on the internet. You know,
Speaker 1: my my son's mother's sister lives out there in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's a concern. And it's just like wow,
Speaker 1: like it's getting it's getting closer and close. As soon
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull up in the hood in the Bronx
Speaker 1: with the same thing, because this is that population is
Speaker 1: but Buffalo. To what I'm hearing is this community in
Speaker 1: Buffalo is the hood in the Bronx, right, It's just
Speaker 1: the hood. It's the same thing. So that's another problem.
Speaker 1: It's like we're we we get disconnected from stuff like, oh,
Speaker 1: that happened over there, what stops them from doing it
Speaker 1: right here? Yeah, in the city in Alabama. It could
Speaker 1: be anywhere, um that these people pop up. And so
Speaker 1: I think what you said, Jamal is so important that
Speaker 1: we have to use all of these moments as an
Speaker 1: opportunity not just to sing and cry about it, which
Speaker 1: we deserve, that we deserve to sit with and and
Speaker 1: feel right like even today, it's it's it's hard for
Speaker 1: us to find the right words because to my son's point,
Speaker 1: we never need to get to a place where this
Speaker 1: is just normal to us. It always needs to to penetrate, right, Um,
Speaker 1: But we have to be more strategic in terms of
Speaker 1: how we approach all these people with resources who are
Speaker 1: coming into the community. And I think that's what's important.
Speaker 1: It's like, what do the people need? Uh? Past the
Speaker 1: mic um of Live Free, an organization that also has UH.
Speaker 1: I think they have an office there in Buffalo as well, UH,
Speaker 1: and they do a lot of mental health work. Um.
Speaker 1: They are sending in mental health specialists for the next
Speaker 1: couple of months to try to help people in the
Speaker 1: community process what has happened. I need to connect the
Speaker 1: two of you. If you don't know pastor Mike Jamil,
Speaker 1: I would love to connect with them. Yeah. So things
Speaker 1: like that, like real deliberate action UH needs to happen.
Speaker 1: And whatever it is that we can do to be supported.
Speaker 1: I know you did something yesterday where folks showed up,
Speaker 1: you know, and whatever we can do, whatever resources we
Speaker 1: can give, we want to be supportive. We want to
Speaker 1: be there, um, you know, in any way that we
Speaker 1: can to support you and the entire community of Buffalo. No.
Speaker 1: And we've really appreciate that because one one of the
Speaker 1: things that we realize is that we can't do this
Speaker 1: work and in our individual sidelows, right, It's gonna take
Speaker 1: a collaborative effort, you know, amongst people locally, people outside
Speaker 1: of the area as well. Right. Why I think what
Speaker 1: we're doing right now is important because you know, you
Speaker 1: guys are helping to amplify you know, what we're the
Speaker 1: challenges that we have right now. I think everybody has
Speaker 1: a part to play. We can't expect people to all
Speaker 1: play the same role the same exact way, right, we
Speaker 1: have to like understand what where people's strengths are and
Speaker 1: utilize them for their strength. So, you know, what you
Speaker 1: guys are doing right now, this is this is really
Speaker 1: important for us because it's helping us and amplify that message.
Speaker 1: And hopefully in that amplification, you know, we can start
Speaker 1: to develop the right um uh collaborations and getting the
Speaker 1: resources that we need to make sure that things like
Speaker 1: this don't happen again. One of the things again I
Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier about about that that grocery store being
Speaker 1: um the only one in that in that neighborhood and
Speaker 1: or the east side of Buffalo. We would love to
Speaker 1: get the resources that we can put another grocery store
Speaker 1: in the area, you know what I mean. Like it
Speaker 1: right now, there is a food issue in terms of
Speaker 1: getting as you said, fresh fruits and vegetables and other
Speaker 1: things to families. And even with the vigil that we
Speaker 1: did yesterday, it was all about it was okay, we
Speaker 1: did the visual, but we also did a food distribution
Speaker 1: as well. You know, we want to make sure that
Speaker 1: we have a present We did that on Sunday as well,
Speaker 1: that the day after the after the shooting. We wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure that we you know, that we do
Speaker 1: have a presence in the community. And again I have
Speaker 1: a vested interest because I have an office over there
Speaker 1: in that tract, you know, so I'm just as much
Speaker 1: a part of that community that that every you know,
Speaker 1: with everybody else. So but we want to make sure
Speaker 1: that we have the resources that we that we need
Speaker 1: so we can have long term sustainability. And so this
Speaker 1: is just not a one off situation, you know, because again,
Speaker 1: the moment is going to die down. We understand, it
Speaker 1: happens all the time. You know. History is often a
Speaker 1: good indicator and a good predictor of the future. So
Speaker 1: we know that this is this situation is going to
Speaker 1: die down. The eyes of the world is not gonna
Speaker 1: be on Buffalo in a very short period of time.
Speaker 1: So one, let's take advantage of this opportunity that we
Speaker 1: have right now. But also for those listening, let's let's
Speaker 1: see how we could all collectively come together right to
Speaker 1: kind of help us make sure that we have some
Speaker 1: long term sustainability for the folks that live in that
Speaker 1: community and in that neighborhood. Well, for me, you know,
Speaker 1: we we we definitely wanted to support you, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna support you in any way that we possibly can.
Speaker 1: But I think for me, it deeper is is accountability
Speaker 1: not just to him, but anybody that fuels that level
Speaker 1: of hate. Anybody who's used that level of hey, like
Speaker 1: that has to be intention People like Tucker Carston and
Speaker 1: Fox News and and others that we know have fueled that.
Speaker 1: Like when we look at the insurrection, things like these
Speaker 1: things are fueled by things by people who who know
Speaker 1: what they're doing, you know. So I think for us,
Speaker 1: we have to we have to focus on the fuel.
Speaker 1: We gotta focus on and target those people who are
Speaker 1: are directly these are the people, like they said, with
Speaker 1: this with this dulkness still be sin. But the guilty
Speaker 1: one is not the one who can miss. The sinner
Speaker 1: is he who creates the dulkness. So we gotta start
Speaker 1: getting people that's creating the dulness. Absolutely, that's the fact.
Speaker 1: On that note, Jamale, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1: You know we in touch anyway on the five. We've
Speaker 1: been that way and that won't change, um, and we
Speaker 1: need to figure out how we can really help to
Speaker 1: continue to elevate your voice. You didn't just pop up,
Speaker 1: you know as a leader. You've been Buffalo all the way.
Speaker 1: We all know it. You brought us to Buffalo. Um,
Speaker 1: and we'll be back to be, you know, standing hand
Speaker 1: in hand with you to figure out what we can
Speaker 1: do to help the community. Much love you. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, And thank you guys for this platform
Speaker 1: to help us elevate and amplify you know, our messes
Speaker 1: up here. Really appreciate it. You want to send up PRIs.
Speaker 1: I want to send out PRIs and condolences to the
Speaker 1: families and those who lost their loved ones and just
Speaker 1: the whole community of of a little and and just
Speaker 1: saying that we were with you, man, I noticed is
Speaker 1: I know it's tough times. Uh, it's overwhelming for me,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just tired of seeing black people dying. Like
Speaker 1: I'm tired. There's so much death, you know that it's
Speaker 1: just becoming an overwelming. So I just want to I
Speaker 1: know that if you feel like I feel, Man, just
Speaker 1: take a deep breath. Man, tell somebody you love him.
Speaker 1: You know. The only thing that could stop paid his love. Man.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we gotta we gotta love ourselves a lot.
Speaker 1: Man appreciate. Yeah, And I've said this last thing. The
Speaker 1: one thing that kind of keeps me going is the
Speaker 1: fact that I did just have my first child, right
Speaker 1: so my my my new warm my son, my son's side,
Speaker 1: my prince sire and being able to go home and
Speaker 1: see him and to hug him and to know that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna unfortunately have to raise him in
Speaker 1: the world where I have to teach him that his
Speaker 1: his skin color might be a threat. But knowing that,
Speaker 1: you know, he's going to be able to carry on
Speaker 1: the legacy of what we what we're doing right now,
Speaker 1: that's that's I feel. So I'm doing I'm doing this
Speaker 1: not only just for my people, for my son as
Speaker 1: well well. Doing a good job than you appreciate. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you all, thank you all. So you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not a lot of words to say. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Jamal he is, you know, such a important
Speaker 1: UM leader, and you know, these things happen in certain
Speaker 1: places and at certain times that we have to recognize
Speaker 1: also like God's hand right, because Jamal is an incredible organizer.
Speaker 1: So the fact that this happens in the community that
Speaker 1: he's in makes me feel like people, for whatever it's worth,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be all right, right because I know what
Speaker 1: he's gonna do. I know the work he's gonna put in,
Speaker 1: and and I want us not to because we we
Speaker 1: we talk about these issues, and like you said, it
Speaker 1: becomes political the left, the right, that this and that.
Speaker 1: But they are actual families, they are actual names that
Speaker 1: need to be called and people that have to be remembered. Um.
Speaker 1: And so I think for us today, since there's not
Speaker 1: much left to be said, we should really acknowledge these
Speaker 1: actual individuals and not just talk about them as if
Speaker 1: it's just you know, it was just a shooting. No,
Speaker 1: our grandmothers and grandfathers and our brothers and sisters. They
Speaker 1: were killed by someone who targeted them, and they could
Speaker 1: have targeted any one of us. So these are fallen soldiers.
Speaker 1: So ROBERTA. A. Drury, she's thirty two years old. Marcus D. Morris,
Speaker 1: you're fifty two years old. Andre McNeil fifty three years old.
Speaker 1: Aaron Salts hifty five years old, Geraldine Tally sixty two
Speaker 1: years old, Celestine Cheney sixty five years old, Hayward Patterson
Speaker 1: sixty seven years old, Catherine Massey seventy two years old,
Speaker 1: Pearl Young seventies seven years old, Ruth Whitfield eighty six
Speaker 1: years mhm. Zire Goodman twenty years old. Uh she was
Speaker 1: treated and released from the hospital. Also Jennifer Warrington, she
Speaker 1: was treated and released from the hospital. And Christopher Branden
Speaker 1: fifty five years old. He had non life threatening injuries.
Speaker 1: The souls rest in peace. Man the painted, their families
Speaker 1: be found some level of relief at some point. M hm,
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