1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by Bet three 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. Today 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: is our week nine Sunday recap episode. I am Chad Millman, 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. I am joined 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: by my bff, my companion, my compadre, my co host, 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Professional Better Simon Hunter, hell Osimon. 7 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: Hi Chad. How you doing, brother dude? 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: We're a lot better this very second. We got a 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: lot to discuss because we did not love this week 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: at all. 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We locked Cleveland seven and a half 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: on Thursday. As long as we don't change any picks 39 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: through Sunday, we get to keep those lines. We have 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Carolina plus two and a half lost that we still 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: have to go since they minus one and a half. Tonight, 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: New York Jets plus three and a half. Tomorrow games 43 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: we considered but passed Chicago eight and a half, Seattle 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: eight and a half, Seattle plus six and a half. 45 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: Let's run through our five also, I should say the Raiders, 46 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: which we talked a little bit about, but I want 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: to get into that a little bit more. Let's run 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: through our five, well, our three games quickly, starting with 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: what we got right Cleveland, MI seven and a half. So, 50 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: like I said in the contest that we're doing, you 51 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: can lock lines in at any point during the week. 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: Simon and I usually do it Thursday after the Thursday episode, 53 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: and then we review and we sort of decide, Okay, Sunday, 54 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: do we like the lines? Are the games that we like? 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Are we getting good closing line value? The main reason 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: why we didn't change any games today is because we 57 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: felt like we had a guaranteed with Matt Mitchell's nemesis 58 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: starting for Arizona that would be Clayton tune. So we 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: didn't make a move basically because we knew this was 60 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: a guaranteed win. 61 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: Simon, Yeah, And the only real move to be made 62 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: was us probably switching out the Jets. That was probably 63 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: the only one. I really was like, well, we probably 64 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: should so just went out, but this time we wanted 65 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: to take the best number, and it was it was pointless. 66 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: They were going to win that game and by more 67 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: than twenty regardless. Should have just changed it. But yeah, 68 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: the you know that that game is just the classic. 69 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: We thought we were getting a good number. We said 70 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: on Tuesday, I mean bet at all week, bet at Thursday. 71 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: And I even said if if it's if it's really 72 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: not Kyler and they're really going to play this skid 73 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: in his first start against Cleveland, going to be all 74 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 2: over Cleveland at that number. So gave out the kids prop. 75 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: I think that on the show he said win sixty five. 76 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: It got a bet all the way down at one 77 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: fifty one. By kickoff, I think he threw for less 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: than fifty yards or less than sixty yards. 79 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: I think I was eleven of twenty. He was eleven 80 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: of twenty fifty eight yards. Yeah, picks two picks, one fumble, 81 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: lost a QB rating of twenty and. 82 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: It's not his fault, Like it's just he's going from 83 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: Houston to one of the best defenses we've ever seen. 84 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: After they just had a really bad game and uh man, 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: that those are the best bets. Like, even when it 86 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: was I think three nothing, I was still in my 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: back of mind, I was like, he's gonna throw a pick. 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep getting short fields. And he gave us 89 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: a couple of picks, and anytime he was in third 90 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: and five or third and four, it's like, there's there's 91 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: no chance he's going to pick this up. So yeah, 92 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: this this week, we had a couple of layups and 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: we didn't take all of them, but luckily we did 94 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: take this one Thursday morning. We were like, we got 95 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: to take this number. So nice bet to have locked in. 96 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: Simon. People are loving your new haircut. In the chat, 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: you were very handsome. They think they're calling him handsome. Simon. 98 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting about this game. You mentioned, you mentioned, 99 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, at one point it was three nothing in 100 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: the first quarter, it was still zero zero, And there 101 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: wasn't a second at the end of the first quarter. 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: There wasn't a second where I was worried, like, oh shit, 103 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: we did not make the right play here. Like I 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: just felt as though the Browns and Kevin Stefanski had 105 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: the perfect game plan, very conservative. Let Clayton to tune, 106 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: make the mistakes. You knew he was going to make 107 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: the mistakes, take advantage of the short fields. Like you said, 108 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: it was really a clinic in how to manage playing 109 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: against a guy that bad. Very early Sunday morning, It's 110 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: like seven am, and I saw the line popped to 111 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: plus thirteen, and in my head, I was like, well, 112 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: should I take Arizona plus thirteen. I'm like, try to 113 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: middle this thing because I got believele In at such 114 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: a good number, and you were in my head and 115 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: in my head you were like, why are you being 116 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: so fucking greedy? And I was just like take the win. Also, 117 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: unlike you know, we'll talk about this the Bengals and 118 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: the Bills where I do it, I'm trying for a middle. 119 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: I just didn't have the faith the Cardinals would be 120 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: able to score. 121 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: So honestly want to If it was PJ I would 122 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: have been like, Okay, that's that's way too much line 123 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: movement for PJ. Walker. But with Watson, as bad as 124 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: he's looked, he's still better than PJ. Walker. So that's 125 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: just that was a good move. Not too because that 126 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: line movement wasn't just because it was sharp money. It 127 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: was because Watson was declared the starter. 128 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course. I think you know you 129 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 1: said you said, you said that if we had taken 130 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: any game out, it would have been the Jets, And 131 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm curious. Don't tell me yet because there's a few 132 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: games I want to talk We got a little bit 133 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: more room to breathe her today because two of our 134 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: games we can't discuss in Cincinnati and the Jets because 135 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: they haven't played. So there are a few more games 136 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I want to review that we didn't do, and I 137 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: want to see if one of the games we've talked 138 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: about would have been the game we put in, and 139 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: if because of that we'd be three and one right 140 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: now instead of instead of two and one Tampa Bay 141 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: plus two and a half. This was the game we 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: had the most contention about this week. I would say 143 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: it was this and it was New England Washington. These 144 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: were the two biggest debates we had all week. I 145 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: was backing you on Tampa Bay the whole time. I 146 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: didn't have a strong opinion about it, but you didn't 147 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: like my reasons for challenging you on Tampa Bay this week. 148 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Holy crap, I feel like fucking Kami fairbarn who knew 149 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: that the biggest edge we would have would be the 150 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: kicker going out at half time. Wow, dude, it. 151 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: Was good and bad though, because like they had a 152 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 2: fourth and nine they went for and they got a 153 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: freaking touchdown on it. It's just like, oh my god, 154 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: this is what this is what we're dealing with here. 155 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: I mean no, that was pure, pure luck, like we 156 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: just played the number, but pure luck because I completely 157 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: misread that thought. You know, CJ. The defense is knew 158 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: what to do against him. Todd Bowles another dinosaur. U 159 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with the kid. He he 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: set records today. And yeah, if people think I'm like distractor, 161 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: I look like I'm dying right now. The Egos are 162 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: playing against Dallas, and Dallas is like they're at the 163 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: goal line. I'm sorry, we'll distracted. 164 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me right now? I stopped watching the 165 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: game because of the podcast. 166 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm not kidding you. I'm dying. I'm 167 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: dying right now. I can't believe this is happening. But 168 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: uh yeah, the Bucks is just the classic play the number. 169 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 2: Shut up, this sucks. Mean chat didn't have fun. I 170 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: didn't enjoy it. I died ten times that game. That 171 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: was a horrible experience. Gave up ten times, and we 172 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: talk of the time. Two and a half is a 173 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: key number, so who knows how we were going to 174 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: get there. But as soon as the kicker went out, 175 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: I said to myself, the two and a half's gonna matter. 176 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: Didn't you feel the same way when that went out? 177 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: Totally? Especially Yeah, because Houston had this guy who kicked 178 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a field goal, did some kickoffs. But when they ultimately 179 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: we decided we're just not going for extra points. 180 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: They wouldn't. They wouldn't. It was really bizarre. Yeah, like 181 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 2: the case the field goal, they wouldn't kick extra points. 182 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was strange. But I mean, look, 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: look CJ. 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: Stroud, Oh my god, big sack, big sack in this game. 185 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: All right, all right, keep us posted. I got to 186 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: run through a few stats because is it over? 187 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell? 188 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell was watching the game live. 189 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Someone on Hawaii, So I'm in like a five seconds. 190 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: Lay Yeah, hold on, nobody yet not over yet? 191 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: Not five seconds left? 192 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: All right? Tampa Bay had a ten point lead in 193 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the third quarter. At one point it was twenty to ten. 194 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Is it over? 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: No? No, they had a ten point lead, and they 196 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: had the ball. Tampa. 197 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: They had the ball, and over the rest of the game, 198 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: the team's combined for forty six points. 199 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: C J. 200 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Stroud CJ. Stroud through for a rookie record four hundred 201 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: and seventy yards, completed seventy of his passes, an average 202 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: of eleven yards per completion, and all by the way, 203 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: five touchdowns, including the game winner with six seconds on 204 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: a drive that took forty seconds to go seventy five 205 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: yards after Baker threw what he thought was the game 206 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: winning touchdown. 207 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: Crazy. Now, that probably the dumbest thing I've ever said 208 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: in the show, which was that the league had figured 209 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: him out. He threw oh rightwo hundred yards. He broke 210 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: a rookie record. I mean, holy show. 211 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: He had one of those moments. He had one of 212 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: those moments in the third quarter. This is when they 213 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: basically won the game. You can say, like, you know, 214 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: the plays at the end of the game are why 215 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: they won the game, but the Texans were He had 216 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: not been playing well. He had been running all over 217 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: the field, running backwards, flushed out, had n't played well 218 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: at all. Texans had a third and eleven he was rushed, 219 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: went backwards, flushed to the right, found Dalton Schultz wide open, 220 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: made a laser of a throw converted on the very 221 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: next play, a gorgeous back of the end zone pass 222 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine yards touchdown. Pass could have only been to 223 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: one person, which was tanked out. He was the only 224 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: guy who could catch it. He never stopped completing passes 225 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: the rest of the game. He was fucking amazing. Here 226 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: at the stats. First half fourteen to twenty two, one 227 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: hundred and forty five passing yards. Second half, second half 228 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: sixteen of twenty three hundred and twenty five passing yards, 229 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: four touchdowns. It's amazing. 230 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was crazy to watch every time 231 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: he had the ball. I was like, they're going to 232 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: score a touchdown when they when they kicked that Fueld goal, 233 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: that was a huge win as a Tampa backer. But no, 234 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: there's no one, there's nothing to say about it. It's 235 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: like either side whoever was going to cover or when 236 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: that game got lucky because there was whatever how many 237 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: points were scored, well over, well over seventy yeah. 238 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Like seventy six something points. Yeah, right, So. 239 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: Definitely not the way I saw that game going. I 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be defensive back and forth where 241 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: it was really low scoring and completely other way, Like 242 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: the Baker really showed up, really played out and pretty crazy. 243 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: He was able to keep up somehow with what we 244 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: just talked about. That CGI game of yeah, just but 245 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: really well and the Bucks defensive didn't no favors. There 246 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: was a couple of times I think early in the 247 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 2: game they were going to kick a field goal or 248 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: Houston did kick a field goal and they got a 249 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: penalty of the Bucks next play they got a touchdown. 250 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: Like that's a big deal flipping from three to seven, 251 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: especially when we like us have the dog. Usually those 252 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: those matter at the end of the game. So yeah, 253 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: felt very lucky walking away with that cover and just 254 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: trusting the number, playing the two and a half, trusting 255 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: the number, and it worked out. 256 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: A game, it didn't work out for us. One more 257 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: game that did work out, Eagles covered against the Cowboys, 258 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: Thank freaking god. We didn't put in the contest, but 259 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: we both I loved the Eagles this week. I feel 260 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: like you tempered your enthusiasm for the Eagles this week 261 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: because you love the Eagles and like don't want to 262 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: let your love influence your thoughtful decision making. But I 263 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: we'll get you know what, We'll get to the Eagles. 264 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: We'll get to the Eagles. But the Eagles won and 265 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: covered again. That didn't work out for us. Carolineup plus 266 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: two and a half. We loved this game all week, 267 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: and boy were we wrong. Like it was basically doa 268 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: and Bryce Young was terrible. Made some adjustments, started to 269 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: play better in the second half, and then they had 270 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: like they completed up third and twelve from inside their 271 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: own ten. They were down twenty to ten, and then 272 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: they completed a forty eight year pass. I'm like, okay, 273 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: maybe we got a shot here. And Bryce Young maybe 274 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: he's been inspired by CJ. Stroud very play. Bryce Young 275 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: throws a laser on a screenplass over Miles Sanders head, 276 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: picked off by Kenny Moore for his second pick six 277 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: in front of his six older sisters who were visiting, 278 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: and that was it. Bryce Young was freaking terrible. We 279 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: missed this one bad. 280 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, too bad. Just if Bryce Young just didn't turn 281 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: the ball over. This is most like an easy winning 282 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: a cover. And everything we said was true about Minshew 283 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: Mintchew was seventeen to twenty six which sounds pretty good 284 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: for one hundred and twenty seven yards passing. The guy 285 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: only threw for one hundred and twenty seven yards, and 286 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: their number one running back, Jonathan Taylor, had eighteen carries 287 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: for forty six yards. Like they didn't really do much offensively, 288 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: take away fourteen points. It's a tide game. So yeah, 289 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: it's just a classic. You bet on a rookie quarterback 290 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: and sometimes they played like a rookie. He played like 291 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: a rookie, threw two pick sixes, had a bunch of turnovers, 292 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: just bad again in the red zone, like not turning 293 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: these drives and the touchdowns selling for field goals. Yeah, disappointing, 294 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: but once again we said all the time, this is 295 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: life betting on back qbs. You live and die with it. 296 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: Either you get a Baker game, which is incredible, or 297 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: you get this kind of game, like two pick sixes. 298 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: It's like you said, when was the first one. You're like, ah, 299 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: there's a chance we can get this back, right, maybe 300 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: we can get at this whole. The second one, you're dead. 301 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: You are so dead. No one comes back from maybe Mahomes, 302 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: but that's about it. So yeah, terrible bet all. 303 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: Right, Flowers for Simon. At the end of the show 304 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: on Thursday, we were talking about big Balls, we were 305 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: talking about Foxhole. We were pretty locked in on the 306 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Bengals and the Jets, and at the end of it, 307 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: you threw out the Las Vegas or Adas and they 308 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: were like one and a half at the time. And 309 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Derek Farnsworth, who's a very well known writer for Roto Grinders, 310 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: also contributes to Action Network's Best Bets files on a 311 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: regular basis, So in the Best Bets file for today, 312 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: he said he was taking the Raiders and he called 313 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: it the dead cat bounce, which is a term in 314 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: finance for stocks that are basically in a downward spiral 315 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: but for one moment have a little bit of an 316 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: upward bounce. 317 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: Right. 318 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: It's a little bit like the moment of clarity on 319 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: the death bed. And Derek franzw With predicted it. You 320 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: had it on Thursday. If we had taken the Jets out, 321 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: if we decided to go all in on the Browns 322 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: at minus twelve and a half, whatever, are the Raiders 323 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: the team we would have put in today? 324 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, love the Raiders. The biggest giveaway I kept 325 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: saying was the fact that they were favorite, even though 326 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: we knew was Daniel Jones playing. The books are showing 327 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: no respect to that Giant team, and you know it 328 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been a landslide today Iftino Jones stayed healthy. 329 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: But at the same time, it was just all going 330 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: against the Giants. In that game, it felt like the 331 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: Raiders game from the get go, and the team seemed looser. 332 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: Even you know, DeVonta Adams got no catches. Usually he's 333 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: freaking out slamming his helmet on the sideline. He was chilling, Uh, 334 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: just like. 335 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: He was making blocks. 336 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, just seem like the vibe was different. Obviously if 337 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: we had known that, if I'd know him, they're gonna 338 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: roll by double digits, I really would have grabbed you 339 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: by their shirt and been like, dude, we gotta get 340 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: this in. But uh, yeah, it felt good about it, 341 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: not just because the coach was getting fired, but just 342 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: felt like a good number and a good spot. And yeah, 343 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't know who they're playing next week, but probably 344 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: probably got a bet against uh the Raiders next week. 345 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: I think I I think I have it on our 346 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: on our look aheads because I was curious. I wanted 347 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: us to talk about it. Can We give a little 348 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: bit of flowers to Kevin O'Connell and the Minnesota Viking 349 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: because before the season began there was there were two narratives. 350 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: The New York Giants won a lot of close games, 351 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: and even if they regressed, they would get through the 352 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: regression because Brian Dayball is such a good coach. The 353 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings won a lot of close games, and we 354 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: did not believe they would get through the regression because 355 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: we didn't believe in Kevin O'Connell and we didn't believe 356 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: Kirk cousins. Kirk cousins in Kirk Cousins before he was injured, 357 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: was playing lights out, having a statistically incredible season. Now, 358 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, this week's got a quarterback who gets concussed, 359 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: who's a rookie, gets concussed early in the quarter then 360 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: playing a guy who's literally traded on Tuesday. Kevin o'connen 361 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: and the Vikings are five and four. Brian day Ball 362 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: cannot win a game right now, no matter who's playing quarterback. 363 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: He cannot figure out a way to coach this team 364 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: to a win. I know there's a lot of differences 365 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: that Vikings have better talent, but I feel like we 366 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: did not respect Kevin O'Connell enough, and we saw some 367 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: great coaching and play calling today. 368 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: I think we all respect him. Just to write amount Chad, 369 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: It's it's not so much we didn't believe in Kirk. 370 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: It's just we know exactly what Kirk is. He's gonna 371 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: get stats, he'll win some games, but he's deck. It's 372 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: like in these big moments when you need his best 373 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: ball or you need him step up. Not that it's 374 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: always their fault, but usually it's their fault. Usually falls 375 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: in the quarterback. So love Kirk, but Kirk lost to 376 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: basically this Sam exact Giants team like that Giants mojo 377 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: last year made zero sense. I don't know how they 378 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: won that playoff game against Kirk. And you know, good 379 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones. He got paid the Giants. You know, 380 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: it's not his fault. He got hurt. But that team 381 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: just has so many holes. And that's life when you 382 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: let a really bad GM run your team for multiple 383 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: years and multiple drafts, like you're just they don't have talent. 384 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: The Giants and last year, you know, we talked about 385 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: they had flukey wins, just like this Vikings team had 386 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: some flucky wins, and this year the Vikings had the 387 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: other way where they had some fluky losses. So you know, Kirk, 388 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: they were still not that far off divisionally right when 389 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: he was healthy, Like the number, the lines weren't some 390 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: huge favorite to win this division, right, the books were 391 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: still keeping it kind of close. Once he went down 392 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: and shot way up right, that was kind of the 393 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: nail in that division. It just goes to lines now, 394 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: so we know that Kirk has a value. Like we 395 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: believe in Kirk. It's just it's like Dak today. Dak 396 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: will have these moments. You'll see it and you'll be like, 397 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: this guy's got it, he's really good. And then those 398 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: final moments you really need him step up. He just 399 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: for some reason he just doesn't. So yeah, tough, tough 400 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: game for if you're an Atlanta fan. This is one 401 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: of those if you don't win the division, this is 402 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: the game you'll look back on like you played against 403 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: a backup and then the backups backup you lost. So 404 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: crazy is a thirty one points that's what they're defense 405 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: gave up. That's back to back weeks. You gave up 406 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: that to Dobbs in the week before you gave up 407 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: to Will Levis, a rookie. It's not all fallen on 408 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: the offense of Atlanta right now. It's really fall on 409 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: that defense. Yeah. 410 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: One of the games we are going to talk about 411 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: is Minnesota New Orleans, which is happening next week, so 412 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: I've marked that for our week ten look ahead. I 413 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: mentioned New England and Washington. That was the game that 414 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: you and I had a lot of conversations about on Tuesday. 415 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: On Sunday, we had a lot of conversations about it. 416 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, we had a lot of conversations about it. 417 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: The wise guys were on New England. The line moved 418 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: from from three and a half to three to two 419 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: and a half, bounce back up to three. What is 420 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: your take on why professional betters felt strongly about New 421 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: England when we've said, like mac Jones is terrible, Like 422 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: he cannot throw an out, he's terrible at reading coverages, 423 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: He's terrible and inaccurate on long passes. Now he's bad, 424 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: He's he's awful, Like it doesn't matter what you scheme, 425 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: he cannot execute the scheme. And I don't know what 426 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm missing here, Like why what whise guys continue to 427 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: want to back this team. Are they like that We've said, 428 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: are they like the Jags of the twenty tens? Where 429 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: because they are so bad? The value is always going 430 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: to be on New England because I feel like we're 431 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: going to have the same conversation every week. 432 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also it's Belichick and we just talked 433 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: about teams that were winning coin flip games that they 434 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: just lost another coin flip game, Like this is just 435 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: who New England is right now, and that does fall 436 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: on mac Jones. Mac Jones has been bad. But you know, 437 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: go through this season and look at the Patriots games. 438 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: They lost a coin flip game too, the Dolphins, they 439 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: lost a coin flip game to the Eagles. They lost 440 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 2: coin flip game to the Raiders. This is another game 441 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: where you know, he drives that field. He wins by four. 442 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: Are all the Sharps geniuses now, Chad because they got 443 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 2: that right because he drove the field. It's it is 444 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: tough where it's like that's just how it goes sometimes. 445 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I watched a lot of that 446 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: game that was in my corner TV and like Matt Jones, 447 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: man just wide open throws. He can't lead guys. He 448 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: just makes bad reads. And it's just crazy how football 449 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: works that way, where it's so much of its mental 450 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: and he's just regressed where like he made those throws 451 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: when he was a rookie and now he's all these 452 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: years of experience and he's been in the league and 453 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: he's not making those throws anymore, like easy throws. Like 454 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: now we're not talking tough throws, easy throws, open guys. 455 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: So uh yeah, it sucks, brother, But you know, thanks 456 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: to you and who else talked us off that one. 457 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm just glad we don't have the contest because that 458 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: that would have been awful loss. 459 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that would have been I mean, fortunately, 460 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: the line was always three and a half and even 461 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: though we didn't agree on the side, like we never liked. 462 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: Well we put in Washington around Robin. 463 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: That's true, we did. 464 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good for us. 465 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. But the line was never something 466 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: we were comfortable with, Like we were never gonna play 467 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: three and a half for New England now. 468 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: But when I got to two and a half, I 469 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: bit pretty heavy. So yeah, I got I got slaughtered 470 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: by that number. 471 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: Speaking of not being able to execute one of the 472 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: reasons we didn't like the Cowboys, at least I didn't 473 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys. I don't want to put words in 474 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: your mouth is I'm just not a Byron McCarthy and 475 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm not a Buyron Zach and I think eron Zak 476 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: and I think that the Eagles are a better coached, 477 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: deeper roster, a smarter team who are comfortable with the 478 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: idea of winning and comfortable about executing under pressure. And 479 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Dak was great today. Ceedee Lamb was amazing. I think 480 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: that was the weakness that we talked about on the podcast. 481 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: But this is not a team that knows how to close. 482 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a lot of advantages. I mean the like 483 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: I said though, the Dak and Ceedee Lamb combo, it's scary. Yeah, 484 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: it's a scary combo. Like when they when he needs it, 485 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: Lamb's usually there and usually he's open. That was a 486 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: real matchup win for them in this Eagles game that 487 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: I definitely overlook. I thought they're gonna be able to 488 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: take that away double team and they just didn't. Eagles 489 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: left him one on one man most of the game 490 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: and Lamb kept winning those matchups. So yeah, happy Hurts 491 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: went down like, I don't know what's going on that knee, 492 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: but bunky, Yeah, a guy bends into it, falls into it, 493 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 2: weird like when the d lineman hit it and he 494 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: just walked it off and he's back in there and 495 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: he you know, finished the game and played well. So 496 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: the Eagles thing scary as a fan. It's like, I 497 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: don't know, is this guy gonna make it the rest 498 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: of the way, Like we're just at the halfway point 499 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: of just the regular season, not even talking playoffs, like 500 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: the Eagles got a really tough stretch here, but yeah, 501 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: and Eagles better, honestly chat, I feel lucky, like when 502 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: they got it down there was it was the first 503 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: and five at the goal line there at the end, 504 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: and Eagles d stepped up they made the play. So 505 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: as much as I want to get credit to the offense, 506 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: they did show out and the defense of their best 507 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: game at the end the end they played when it mattered. 508 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: They had two well I guess you had three huge 509 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 2: stops at the goal line there that really obviously changed 510 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: the game. So yeah, Eagles fandom happy is a better. 511 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 2: I'm really happy. It's it's definitely I don't know, if 512 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: you're a Cowboys fan. I don't want to keep saying 513 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: it's the same old Cowboys, but what are you gonna do? 514 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: It falls on deck. Dak played well, but end of 515 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: the day, it falls on deck. So I don't know. 516 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: Maybe they'll fire McCart at the end of the season, 517 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: but they definitely need some type of difference. It's just 518 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: they're not getting over that hump they keep needing to 519 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: get over. It's like you also the forty nine ers. 520 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: Now you lose the Eagles, that's the cloud the NFC. 521 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: You got to be at least one of them. So 522 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: even though the Eagles played them later in the season, 523 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: this was a huge ton center for this Cowboys team 524 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: and that they had definitely let down their betters and 525 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: the fan base. 526 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: Other picks foxhole is Cincinnati minus two. That is tonight, 527 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: Simon says, was Carolina plus two and a half. Exact 528 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: decision was Philadelphia minus three. Our big balls is Jets 529 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: plus three and a half survivor what's the matter? 530 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: I just thought, I don't know why I thought we 531 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: had the bucks of our big balls. 532 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: No, we had Jets plus three and a half and survivor. 533 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: We narrowed it down to New Orleans or Cleveland, depending 534 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: on sort of who might be available. So hopefully people 535 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: chose either one of those teams. Round robin was Carolina, 536 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Temp Bay, New York Jets, Washington, Seattle. Seattle is interesting. 537 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: This time last week we saw that game. We thought 538 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: Seattle was the right side, but we couldn't quite commit 539 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: to betting it. The whole week. We didn't bet it. 540 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: It got to six and a half. This morning, I 541 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: pulled the trigger and the second I pulled the trigger, 542 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, why did I fucking do that? And they 543 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: were never they were never in it. They were Ah. 544 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: It was in the first quarter, it was three nothing. 545 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: I thought we had a chance, and then you're right, 546 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: it just Gino never woke. 547 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: Up, you know, never, he just kept getting sacked paid. Yeah, 548 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: he couldn't get a rhythm. Yep. I want to get 549 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: but great matchup next week Baltimore in Cleveland. I want 550 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: to get to for the look aheadlines for week ten. 551 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Uh Sunday night, Lean, I've said it many times. We 552 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: have Cincinnati minus one and a half in the contest. 553 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: That is the current line. Simon and I are both 554 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: on Cincinnati in a decent sized way. Accurate. 555 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I'm in on it. 556 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: You know of it. 557 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: I mean I love it enough. It's one of our five. 558 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, not not buying a nice car with it. 559 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: Well, if I middle this, which is what I'm trying 560 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: to do with Cincinnati plus one and hard for it. Yeah, 561 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: if if this game can land on too, I'm buying 562 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: a I am. I am going all in on a 563 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: shake shack Uber eats for the whole family. Uh, Monday 564 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: night football leans on the Jets plus three and a half. 565 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: We just said it, big balls better the week. You're 566 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: scared about. 567 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: It, I'm scared. I'm just I don't know why, just 568 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: sitting on three and a half. All of us are 569 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: taking it. I don't know any I don't know anyone 570 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: that's not taking that's never really good. So yeah, just 571 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: believing in this Jets defense. But again, it's like I 572 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: read Evans articles and it scares the shit out of me. 573 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: I think you had something in there. They're like the 574 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: Jets and the Giants combined are one in fourteen straight 575 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: up on Monday night games. I think that only win 576 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: came against this year against the Buffalo Bills, and that 577 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: Monday night like week one, So uh, we need, we 578 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: need more magic. I feel I feel very lucky right now, 579 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: so hopefully it keeps running. But yeah, just like I said, 580 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: I just wish it was over now. We gotta wake 581 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: up tomorrow since he doesn't work out for us, so 582 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: I gotta wait all day and hopefully get the three 583 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: and two. It's the worst so we need since e 584 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: bad tonight, Like Chad was saying, all. 585 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: Right, we needed so bad. I don't want to have 586 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: to worry about this JEFS game tomorrow. 587 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: Me either, me either. 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Just download the app and are a code 608 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: favorites for twenty dollars off. Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. 609 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: All right. Week ten, Dude, Week ten, Chiefs, Rams, Dolphins, 610 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: Eagles have the buye. I was going to bring up 611 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: New England and Indie because it's a New England line. 612 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: It's a one point New England's a one point favorite, 613 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: but it's a it's a Germany game, so. 614 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: That I wouldn't do it to our fans regardless. Yeah. 615 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: So some games that were interesting to me that I flagged, 616 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: I flagged. I got six games that were interesting. The 617 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: Jags are two and a half point dogs at home 618 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: against San Francisco. 619 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: I know, I mean, we want to take the Jags. 620 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they be the better team right now? But yes, 621 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with it. 622 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: Man, But I don't want to bet it right now. 623 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: I already did. You might as well bet it as 624 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: you did. Yeah, that was one of the first bets 625 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: I made. It's just well, I want to see who. 626 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: I want to see who's backing rock Party right now, 627 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: Like it feels like everyone everyone's off rock Party right now. 628 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 2: They need to see it again. My fear is this 629 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: kid just had back to back concussions. You have concussion, 630 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: came back too soon. Looked like he got another one 631 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: in that game, and he stayed in the game and 632 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: played bad. And you know, he went back to I 633 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: don't know where he lives, but he was farming, so 634 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: like he's with his family, he's just hanging out. I 635 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 636 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: I was his girlfriend in Iowa. 637 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you reconcussions, man, but like 638 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 2: I had some real concussions before, and that that stays 639 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: with you. Like if you get one and get another 640 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: one real quick right afterwards, usually not yourself. You're not 641 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 2: thinking as quick and sharp for at least a month, 642 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: Like it really does wring your head and it's just 643 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: tough to get back from it. So the fact that 644 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 2: I think he's a little wounded. I'm getting a plus 645 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 2: number one I think is the better team right now, 646 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: like it feels like the Jaguars are playing as a 647 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: better team, even though talent wise, I do think the 648 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: forty nine ers have more talent. No one's no one's 649 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: saying they don't. But just the way the Jags have 650 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: been playing as a home dog with Peterson's how do 651 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: we avoid it? But I'm with Chad. I could get 652 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: up to three, but I'm gonna take the two and 653 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: a half just in case it does go down. 654 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: Next game, Cleveland plus five at Baltimore. I bet this 655 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: late afternoon when it was Cleveland plus five, which it still. 656 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: Is good five and a half. I've bet three to 657 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: six five right now. 658 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: Wow, Well, then go get it. 659 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: It's hard. It's I don't know, man, what am I doing? 660 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: Am I really believing in Watson? Like I don't know 661 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: if I believe in Watson? I know I do. I 662 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: know I do believe, and I believe in Lamar. But 663 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 2: we always talk about it's hard buying high buying high 664 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: end teams, like after those kind of wins like that's 665 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: that was an incredible win by Lamar today, like they 666 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: completely dominated another team that was top ten in defense 667 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 2: and offense like the Seattle. Yeah, they've had some week competition, 668 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 2: but they're a good team and they got completely dominated today. 669 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 2: And I said, I said a lot. I didn't think 670 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: Lamar played that great of a game, like that's how 671 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: good they are right now with that run scheme. Ever, 672 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: I think they're doing in Baltimore defensively. You know, Roque's 673 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: just playing out of this world. That defense is so 674 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: good for the Ravens. So I get with your first 675 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 2: ideas here, Chad, but you might have another Seattle scenario. 676 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: You might be able to get a six. But I 677 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: won't touch this yet. I'll wait and see what the 678 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: other pros are doing, because clearly some wise guys were 679 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: on that Ravens. They moved that number all up to six, 680 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: all up to six and a half. And I know 681 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: I checked the app before kickoff. There was a decent 682 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: amount of money and bets on Seattle. So pretty interesting. 683 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: They're there once again. They're back in this Ravens here 684 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: early against this Cleveland number. 685 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: I think, look, it's totally a different scenario. Right we're 686 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: talking about a divisional game. We're talking about a much 687 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: more superior defense than Seattle. We're talking about getting a 688 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: team betting against a team that is going to be inflated. 689 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: Maybe there's going to be a six round, which I 690 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: will probably bet again, But I think that this is 691 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: one of those classic AFC North matchups, and I bet 692 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: when we talk about this on Tuesday, all of the 693 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: data that we look at that Evan feeds us, that 694 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: we research on our own, when we have forty eight 695 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: hours of perspective, will tell us that this will be 696 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: This should be a game that is at three and 697 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: a half at the most. Okay, that's what I think. 698 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 1: The reason I took the five because I had seen 699 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: some five and a half's out there and the books 700 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: I can bet on in Connecticut, it was already moving 701 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: to five, and so I just wanted to make sure 702 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: I grabbed it all right. New Orleans at Minnesota. Minnesota 703 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: is plus three right now, and I can't decide is 704 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: Minnesota already over overvalued because of today? And No Orleans meanwhile, 705 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: like they played terrible against the Bears. They should have 706 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: blown that team out by a million, or they should 707 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: have lost the game. Tyson invasion, four turnovers, three picks 708 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: of fumble, couldn't get couldn't get beyond his own twenty 709 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: yard line a couple of times more often than not, 710 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: including the end of the game where if we had 711 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: the Bears plus nine and a half like I did. Uh, 712 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: you got so lucky with the cover in this game. 713 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: But does one appeal? Does this want appeal to you? 714 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: I haven't bet this one yet, but it was interesting 715 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: to me. 716 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: A talking Bears Thursday night or no. 717 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm talking about New Orleans at Minnesota plus three. 718 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the number. I thought about griving Minnesota, 719 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: the plus three. I missed it most books already having 720 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: at two and a half. Now, gonna wait and see 721 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: on that number, because I feel like you're right where. 722 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: It's like in my heart, I want to take Minnesota. 723 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: It's fun, yeah, Like everything about that story is fun. 724 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 2: The way they play is fun. But I'm talking real 725 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: money here, and I don't want to be just betting 726 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: on fun. I need to like run this through a 727 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: model and see what the numbers should because right now 728 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: it feels like the value is towards Minnesota. But I 729 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: don't know. Man, that Saints team, they're just good, Like 730 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: the biggest issue for them was scoring the red zone. Right. 731 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 2: That was all their whole problem this season was Derek 732 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 2: Carr getting threes. And they've kind of figured out this 733 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 2: rotation of Car and Taysom Hill, like they bring Hill 734 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: in when they need a bulldozer in the red zone 735 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: and it's been working like that really feels like that's 736 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: kind of thing that works for that team. So yeah, 737 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: no play for this one yet for me. Chad. 738 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: We mentioned the Jets. We mentioned in Las Vegas. They're 739 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: two and a half point home dogs against the Jets. 740 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I'm sorry seeing one and a half's 741 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 2: on that. So the pros are coming on Vegas. I 742 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: don't know what to do because I want to fade 743 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: both these like, yeah, you know, I want to take 744 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: the Jets. 745 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: Wait, I want to see it with the Jets. 746 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I want to get the Jets. 747 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 2: I could get a better number of the Jets, depends 748 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 2: what happens this week. And the lines right now are 749 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: minus one at the Chargers. Bizarre line. Like the real 750 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: Joe public in me is just like take take the 751 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: lines like they're a covering machine. This is indoors. What 752 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: what a weird line, very weird line. So that's another one. 753 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 2: I bet it. I could buy it out of my position. 754 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: If this is like the same thing, if this is 755 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: eighty percent of all the bets, eighty percent of the 756 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: money is on the lines and they're on the road, 757 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 2: yes I will buy them in a position. But this 758 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 2: isn't the number one public bed of the week. Who knows, 759 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 2: because again, the public do win this week the number 760 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: one most bet game. Darrenravel told us the Chiefs covered 761 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 2: number two most bet team bet money, Eagles covered number three. 762 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 2: Me and Chad Hope cover it's the Bengals. So we 763 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: say all the time that the public do win. But this, 764 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: this is the most public bet of the week for 765 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: me right now is this lines bet? But I gotta 766 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: take it right minus one even if the Chargers win big, Like, 767 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: how much does this number really move a point? Maybe 768 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 2: they flipped it being the favorite. I don't know. I 769 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 2: just I just think this line won't move too much. 770 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 2: The only way I can move is negatively towards this 771 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: Lion's team. If if this Chargers team do lou lose 772 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 2: on Monday night, Uh. 773 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: The last game that I was looking at that I 774 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: don't have a strong opinion yet, but I just thought 775 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: it was interesting. Yeah, Atlanta at Arizona. Arizona is a 776 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: two and a half point dog. If you bet on this, 777 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: you're kind of betting on Kyler playing in the long moving. 778 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: Hundred percent what we're betting on. And I've heard I 779 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 2: heard from people from the fans of the show, and 780 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: I've heard from other pros where it's like, would you 781 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: really take Kyler after this long layoff in his first game? 782 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: Like remember how sloppy Watson played and these other guys 783 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: after long layoffs, And I don't know. Maybe I'll go 784 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 2: through that and see if there's any data behind that 785 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: that's true after a long layft. So these quarterbacks are 786 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: coming back. But we just talked about this Atlanta secondary 787 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 2: is bad. This Atlanta defense is bad. They're just giving 788 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: up tons of yards to bad quarterbacks. So I was 789 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 2: hoping it would be three or above, right, and the 790 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: fact that it is two and a half, my Chad 791 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: might be right. Maybe that's the books telling us that 792 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 2: they kind of know and they kind of think it 793 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 2: is going to be Kyler. So I'll throw a bet 794 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 2: on it, small bed just in case. The number of moves. 795 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: But we talked abut the time the two and a 796 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: half is key, So I'm not doing the money line here. 797 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: I'll just I'll take the two and a half for now. 798 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: What am I missing? We talked about you already bet 799 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: the Jags plus two and a half. We'll take a 800 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a taste on Arizona plus two and 801 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: a half. I like Cleveland already. You're waiting to see 802 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: if you can get any intel from the wise guys 803 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: which way they move it Detroit minus one? 804 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 2: What else? Honestly, I haven't really made anything That Jaguars 805 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 2: were the first one I touched, just just because that 806 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 2: line looked the most off I did bet Pittsburgh. There 807 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: was a two and a half out there, and there's 808 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: a couple of threes out there now, and it's it's 809 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 2: just Jordan level on the road. Like I really don't 810 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: have any faith right now in Pittsburgh. I feel like 811 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 2: I did get lucky with them on Thursday, but it 812 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 2: felt like it was just a bet on Tomlin, And 813 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 2: like I know, I don't love Ben tomins a favorite, 814 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 2: but it just feels like their defense against these quarterbacks, 815 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 2: that's an advantage. Their defense is good and as well 816 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 2: as Leed is played right, putting the ball up and 817 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 2: down the field. I talked about him in the red zone. 818 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: That was gonna be the challenge, Like veteran quarterbacks this 819 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: year are struggling in the red zone. Imagine being a 820 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: first or second year starter in this league and now 821 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 2: you're in the red zone. I guess these complicated schemes 822 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 2: that have really changed the NFL these past couple of seasons. 823 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 2: We've seen so many unders. So that was the line 824 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: I just took, just in case it moves up to 825 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: three and a half four. So again, didn't go big 826 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 2: on this one Pittsburgh yet, but chaj jasketball bets I made. 827 00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 2: This is when I just touched when it was two 828 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: and a half and three. 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