WEBVTT - Rachael Ray

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Di Dario. I hope you had an absolutely beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>New Year celebration. It's twenty twenty five. Let's go twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. We are ready for you, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to kick off the year with probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of my all time favorite people in the world, my

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<v Speaker 1>dear friend, the iconic Rachel Ray. Rachel is, of course

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant cook, a television personality who has done more

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<v Speaker 1>shows than I can even list. She's a badass businesswoman,

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<v Speaker 1>a best selling author, she's a brand new podcast host.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can go on and on, because what

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't she done? So I met Rachel through her syndicated

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<v Speaker 1>daily daytime talk show, The Rachel Ray Show, which was

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<v Speaker 1>on for an incredible seventeen seasons. That's an accomplishment achieved

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<v Speaker 1>by very few people in the business. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so rare, and I'm so proud of her for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and her magnetism is why that show continued to go

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<v Speaker 1>on and on. I joined her show for the last

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<v Speaker 1>seven or so years of its run, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of her main lifestyle contributors, which was amazing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I quickly fell in love with this amazing human. Rachel's

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<v Speaker 1>not only a dear friend, but also an incredible mentor.

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<v Speaker 1>And to have the opportunity to sit in front of

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<v Speaker 1>her and turn the tables on a woman who meets

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<v Speaker 1>so much to me personally and professionally, ah man, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a full circle moment. It truly was a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still smiling like a dork thinking about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>the nuggets of wisdom that she throws down, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to inspire you to make the most of your entire

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<v Speaker 1>next year. So let's see if today we can get

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel to say something that she has never said before.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Ray, my friend, it is so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great. I'm in Tuscany. How bad could it be? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting ready for the next run of The Living Kitchen Tuscany.

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<v Speaker 2>We did all of the holiday shows in the Living

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<v Speaker 2>Kitchen upstate. I just also finished shows for so many

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<v Speaker 2>of our talents that we produce with Free Food Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>I work on my own podcast as well, which you

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<v Speaker 2>should do because you're definitely someone who exemplifies I'll sleep

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm dead, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm living the life.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had four Christmases so far oo NN's family, my family,

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<v Speaker 2>and two kind of friends family. Christmas is here, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have another one on January first, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>one more after that, so we're going to have five

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<v Speaker 2>different Christmas holiday celebrations in all.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're busy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're busy, and I've been writing for eight hours today,

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen new shows for this next run here in Tuscany.

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<v Speaker 3>So busy, How are you, my friend?

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<v Speaker 1>I am fantastic busy. You and I are cut from

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<v Speaker 1>the same cloth. We like busy, we like working. I

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<v Speaker 1>I know it. I'm not surprised that all to hear

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<v Speaker 1>you have all these things going on, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to dive into your whole beautiful new chapter that you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really wanted you to be one of my

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<v Speaker 1>first guests for my twenty twenty five you know season,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I love you. I think you're such

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<v Speaker 1>a badass business woman and friend.

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<v Speaker 3>And you wonderful producer. By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people understood just how in charge you

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<v Speaker 2>were over your content on our daytime show over many years.

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<v Speaker 2>But you brought us such beautiful stories and really worked

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<v Speaker 2>extremely hard. I have such respect for you, and thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend, for all the work you gave us over

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<v Speaker 2>the years on that show. And I hope that our

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<v Speaker 2>professional relationship and personal relationship carries on for many many

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<v Speaker 2>years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you, me too, Me too. And that means

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. And like I said, I just so admire

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<v Speaker 1>you as a professional and as a human. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a no brainer to have you on to kick off

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<v Speaker 1>this new year of shows. And I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, I think the last time I saw you,

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<v Speaker 1>because life is so crazy and goes in a million

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<v Speaker 1>different directions, was when we wrap the show, which we

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<v Speaker 1>need to change because that's not okay, this it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I have like so many shows now, I can't sleep

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<v Speaker 2>ever before o'clock in the morning, and I fall asleep

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<v Speaker 2>still working on what I have to type for the

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<v Speaker 2>next day or do for the next day.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm good, We're good. I have a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe me, I'm busy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I know you are, But I'm saying I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see you because that's the last time I saw you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, you can come upstate and you can come

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<v Speaker 2>to Italy. You know, we're here, and we're there, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're in New York. We're all over the place. You

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<v Speaker 2>can catch us pretty much anywhere on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, Yeah, good, I'm gonna take you up.

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<v Speaker 2>You a little Santa action, you know, get yourself on

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<v Speaker 2>a sleigh.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladly. I will gladly do that. Rich. I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>done so many interviews or the course of your career.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people who follow you and

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<v Speaker 1>follow me they know your story pretty well through reading

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<v Speaker 1>your books and through watching you on your show. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really interested in this beautiful new chapter you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I just said, you know, the last time

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<v Speaker 1>you and I actually physically saw each other was when

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<v Speaker 1>we were wrapping your show, and for everybody listening, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on it for the last six or seven seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how Rachel and I met and began this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful friendship. I am a very sentimental, emotional man. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's because I'm Italian or from Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. But when there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many different life, you know, momentous moments that come and go,

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<v Speaker 1>I get very, very sappy and emotional, and I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>for someone like you who always has something going on,

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<v Speaker 1>who's always working on the next thing was wrapping your show,

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<v Speaker 1>which you did for seventeen seasons, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is not the norm. That is an incredible accomplishment for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody listening. Very few people have long running shows like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a rarity, and I don't know if anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else is going to be able to achieve that in

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<v Speaker 1>this day and age. When you hung up that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk show hot, what was that like for you? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>were you ready? Did you have a grieving process?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been working for over thirty years in television and

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<v Speaker 2>I never grieve anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I look forward. I am a forward thinking person. I

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<v Speaker 3>have never.

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<v Speaker 2>Been a person to look back. And I don't grieve

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<v Speaker 2>anything because I don't lose anyone. I talk to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I text with all my producers. I send them holiday

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<v Speaker 2>presents for Hanukah and Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what Emily's up to and what Goldie's.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing, and everybody in my life stays in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't grieve anything because I'm not burying anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I mean when I say I'll sleep

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm dead. I always look forward. I don't look

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<v Speaker 2>back because there's no point in it. And I may

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<v Speaker 2>made the decision to move on to other things so

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<v Speaker 2>that I could do more things with more people. What

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to explore was how to produce people

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<v Speaker 2>that I do not think were properly represented on or

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<v Speaker 2>in television. In my lane, you know, it's all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of food related and health related, But I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>that so many people that I really respect their work

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<v Speaker 2>and their work ethics and the information they have to

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<v Speaker 2>share and the fun that they can bring to people.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think there was anybody that was filling that

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<v Speaker 2>Niche farmer Lee Jones and all of his chef friends

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<v Speaker 2>that go to the Culinary Vegetable Institute, and he gets

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<v Speaker 2>so excited about standing in his garden and telling you

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<v Speaker 2>about seasonal vegetables. Sometimes I worry he's going to pass

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<v Speaker 2>out literally in the middle of the field. And he

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<v Speaker 2>goes inside with the world's greatest chefs and they cook

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<v Speaker 2>the seasonal ingredients that he's been all giggly about. I

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<v Speaker 2>call him Giggles, by the way, because he gets so

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<v Speaker 2>goofy about vegetables and then you have deb who does

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<v Speaker 2>a soul food mash up with all of the cuisine

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<v Speaker 2>from around the world that she learned in her decades

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<v Speaker 2>as a.

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<v Speaker 3>Flight attendant. And then she.

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<v Speaker 2>Got kind of kicked out of that club and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to put myself through culinary school and people

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<v Speaker 2>told her no, and she said, oh no, you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing this, and she has cookbooks and restaurants.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the coolest thing in the world. She's a mashup.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Jake Jewish is one of my favorite books,

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<v Speaker 2>like in history. It's hilarious and fantastic. We produce him

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<v Speaker 2>as well. We're adding in some content next year that's

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<v Speaker 2>very exciting. With a couple of in the health space,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just say. And of course I have Anna Gas

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<v Speaker 2>who is our resident Italian, and she does great history

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<v Speaker 2>of Italian food, but like.

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<v Speaker 3>Really gets into the nitty gritty of what.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like to be an Italian and live like an Italian,

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<v Speaker 2>cook like an Italian. And then I have the Living

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<v Speaker 2>Kitchen Upstate, and I have the Living Kitchen in Tuscany.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got a little something for everybody and that

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<v Speaker 2>makes me really happy. And our partners are truly our partners.

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<v Speaker 2>A ETN, FYI, Hulu, and Disney are our partners, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're literally our partners. Like Free food studios, me and

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<v Speaker 2>my buddies, we are their partners, and content are pics

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<v Speaker 2>to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that sense that we're all sitting at a

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<v Speaker 2>big table together.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think should be. And we don't fake anything.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't like open a door four times or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>start a scene over and over and over again. We

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<v Speaker 2>make content that I truly believe in because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>real deal. We don't work with a lot of script

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<v Speaker 2>or sculpted stuff in any way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 3>We're kind of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Freestyle, let's just say so. The shows are always surprising

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<v Speaker 2>to us too. As we go through and edit them

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<v Speaker 2>and air them. We're always like, huh, that happened. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the adventure of life, and I really do

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<v Speaker 2>believe you should sleep when you're dead. Anytime you open

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes, whether it's in the middle of the night

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<v Speaker 2>or the first thing in the morning, you should be

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for it and start working. Move your brain, move

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<v Speaker 2>your fingers, move your hand, move your bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, you know, I work very hard, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love having my brain come alive and I'm so grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for every day that I get blessed with that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>I just it.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me super super happy. Nothing makes me happier

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<v Speaker 2>than work. And what I love about be pretty happy.

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<v Speaker 1>But and what I love about this this new chapter

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<v Speaker 1>you're in is you're doing things that it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>you've wanted to do for a while, right, Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>developing people that you find so interesting and that you

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<v Speaker 1>just think deserve a platform, and I think.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love I love finding someone that can represent people

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<v Speaker 2>that I know. And I think, Wow, you know my

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<v Speaker 2>friends so and so and so and so and so

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<v Speaker 2>and so. We're going to be so excited to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know this person. And my friends that are obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with baking sour dough bread and growing gardens for years

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<v Speaker 2>during COVID, Now they could see Farmer Lee and all

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<v Speaker 2>of the great chefs that he knows, and they'll eat

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<v Speaker 2>more vegetables because now they're watching all this great content

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<v Speaker 2>from the world's greatest chefs on his show make these

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<v Speaker 2>great dishes with vegetables like that makes me psyched, That

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<v Speaker 2>makes me really excited and happy, and I love the

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<v Speaker 2>work that I get to do with kids. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>to Ukraine six times. I'm planning my seventh with my

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<v Speaker 2>friend andri Fute. We're going to go soon into the

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<v Speaker 2>new year, and I'm planning a kitchen with my friend

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<v Speaker 2>and cobyin Uptown in New York City. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>build out a children's teaching kitchen there and start like

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<v Speaker 2>a vocational program at the center she's working on.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a lot going on, and I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>To see an old friend from my childhood a boys

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<v Speaker 2>and Girls club also quick into the new year. And

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<v Speaker 2>boys and Girls clubs have been a part of our

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<v Speaker 2>giving program through our foundation for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Beth and Howard, you know, we are so deeply involved

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<v Speaker 2>with North Shore Animal League America. So everything we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>in life, all of our brand is supporting how we

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<v Speaker 2>help people, children and animals.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's going really great.

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<v Speaker 2>We still have furniture and all of our home goods

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that and that supports that work, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have businesses that create and generate monies for our foundation,

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<v Speaker 2>so we don't have to worry about asking people just

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<v Speaker 2>give us a pile of cash. We could just sell

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and say here's.

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<v Speaker 3>How we generate that money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just all very very exciting this chapter of our lives,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean our because John, I wouldn't have any

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<v Speaker 2>of this possible if it wasn't for my trusted friends

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<v Speaker 2>and my beautiful, sweet husband who also happens to be

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<v Speaker 2>a lawyer and a great musician. I'm a very good cook,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, so I couldn't have built any of

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<v Speaker 2>this without him, and I love him desperately.

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<v Speaker 1>Aside from nurturing and developing people that you know deserve

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<v Speaker 1>to have that happen to you, you're doing so much

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<v Speaker 1>giving back and you always have. People don't realize, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean many do, but many don't because you're not

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<v Speaker 1>bragging about every single thing you do out there for

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<v Speaker 1>so many people. And I know because we're friends, but

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<v Speaker 1>you really do have one of the biggest hearts in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. And I think it's so cool that there

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<v Speaker 1>are people I know, Jake, and I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>cool that you're investing time and energy in people because

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine there was a point in your career where

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<v Speaker 1>you felt like somebody did that for you, right, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, many many. My dear dear mentor and very good

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<v Speaker 2>friend Brooke Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a whopperdoodle there.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the one who told me I could work on

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<v Speaker 2>cable and I could work in daytime, encouraged me always,

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<v Speaker 2>has always given me terrific advice. Uh, and had my

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<v Speaker 2>my my sales had had my back. Wonderful. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom, my Grandpa. So many people in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and people like Jacques Papin Jose Andras people that I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm weirded out to call them my friends, but they

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<v Speaker 2>are and I love them so desperately and I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>so much from them about how to live, how to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just overwhelmed. Michael J. Fox the most optimistic person

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<v Speaker 3>maybe ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. Multiple Prayers Presidents that I've worked with, and first

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Mo, Hi, Michelle, and I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I I am so, so so lucky because I got

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<v Speaker 2>to meet all these people that I just got to

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<v Speaker 2>absorb everything I learned from them and try and incorporate

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<v Speaker 2>that into something I can do with my life or

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<v Speaker 2>my brand or my work. Moving forward. And that's the

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<v Speaker 2>great part about always moving forward, because you can take

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<v Speaker 2>any inspiration you get from a meal, from a person,

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<v Speaker 2>from a leader, from all these different angles, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can pour that like my husband making a cocktail or

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<v Speaker 2>something and pouring it through a strainer.

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<v Speaker 3>You can distill that. Uh. I also have my own.

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<v Speaker 2>Gin which I received yet and my friend Brian makes

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<v Speaker 2>that in Upstate, New York with all of my favorite ingredients,

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<v Speaker 2>and we worked on it a really long time together,

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't love him more either. But so we

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<v Speaker 2>learn more about that world too all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>how we really craft specialty spirits or special types of

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<v Speaker 2>food or special ingredients. It's just so exciting. Life is exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I never look back, I always look forward. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>love really long answer to your question, No, and I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that zest for life. I mean, I wake

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<v Speaker 1>up every day and I'm not really religious, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very spiritual, and I say out loud, like what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for if I'm walking to the gym, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>walking to the subway, I just kind of do it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, either in my mind or softly to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always say, I feel so lucky to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>like to be chosen to be on this earth, because

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<v Speaker 1>I do have this zest for life, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's what we make it. And I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>one life to live. Let's fucking make it awesome, right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you, brother, I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so good.

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<v Speaker 2>The same prayer I've said every night for decades my

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<v Speaker 2>mommy wrote and through circumstance, she unfortunately left the Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>Church eventually, but my mama gave us a prayer to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and I say it to this day. Good Night, Dear God.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Dear God, Please givet me the knowledge and the courage

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<v Speaker 2>to help myself, to help others and to do good.

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<v Speaker 2>God pless help protect and forgive us. It's simple, it's clean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's in and out, and it just says, make me

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<v Speaker 2>useful today, universe, let me be of some help to someone,

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<v Speaker 2>and let me be more decent than I was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me learn something with my day today. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's my go to thought.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful, that's so my vibe. I love that so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that for you. One of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so drawn to you as a human is because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you worked and continue to work in

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<v Speaker 1>an industry that over the years you had to fight

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<v Speaker 1>to earn your place, and you had to fight to say,

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<v Speaker 1>look at me, I deserve to be here. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>male dominated world sometimes we live in especially then, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least the men like to think so. And you

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<v Speaker 1>made it happen. And I was raised by pretty much women.

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<v Speaker 1>I love women. Shocking in my gay man that loves women,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love women, and I in my interviews one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest things I get, you know, was a

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<v Speaker 1>question from people is, oh, is you know Anne Hathaway

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<v Speaker 1>or Meryl Streep, Like are they really nice? Because we

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<v Speaker 1>heard they could be so tough. And I'm like, you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>why tough? Why because there's a successful woman in business,

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<v Speaker 1>like it drives me crazy. Do you feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>ever had to deal with that?

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<v Speaker 2>And my ladies, I've always said the opposite of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been asked a million times. Do you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>men in your industry, like Emerald or Bobby?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we're given more than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime I earned less money than a man in my

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<v Speaker 2>same business, it was because I asked to, because I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted more money for the studio or the staff, or

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<v Speaker 2>putting more people in the back kitchen or onto the

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<v Speaker 2>production staff. I those were my choices. I made those choices.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've been treated very fairly by men and

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<v Speaker 2>women most all of my adult life, and people that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't care for me or my work. No one says

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<v Speaker 2>everybody is going to like you on the playground.

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<v Speaker 3>I've said this for decades. That's grow up like.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everyone will dig what you dig or the way

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<v Speaker 2>you teach or the way you think.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>There is more than enough room in this world for

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<v Speaker 2>everyone to do exactly what they want to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be mean to other people to

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish it. In my opinion, so I'm not I go

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<v Speaker 2>with like the Bambi, you know, Thumper's mom kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't have something nice to say about someone,

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<v Speaker 2>shut up, don't say.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really feel that I've been treated very very fairly. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a waitress from upstate New York who ended up

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<v Speaker 2>with this amazing life. I'm sitting in my husband's studio

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<v Speaker 2>in Tuscany, you know, in my beautiful home that I decorated,

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<v Speaker 2>and I doodled on a piece of paper. I am

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<v Speaker 2>grateful and nothing but nothing, but I have a dream

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<v Speaker 2>life because I worked hard, and I move forward, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't complain about anything. I really don't, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't complain about the way anybody treated me. Ever, I

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<v Speaker 2>really don't every bad thing that ever happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't change one brick or one stitch of my life,

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<v Speaker 2>not one brick, not one stitch, because everything could be

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<v Speaker 2>the thread you pull that makes your sweater fall apart

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<v Speaker 2>or the blanket rip apart. You need all of who

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<v Speaker 2>and what you are period.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, yes, yes, yes, yes, Well I think that's also

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring because a lot of people who are listening they

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<v Speaker 1>want a long career, and not many people can say

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<v Speaker 1>they've had longevity like you have. It's a very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>thing to achieve, it really is, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people want that, especially the younger generations. But now there's

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<v Speaker 1>this world that we live in with such toxic social media,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes there's many benefits to it, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of gross mean chatter all over the internet, and

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<v Speaker 1>people are always being inundated with opinions. So you've always

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<v Speaker 1>been someone to let that roll off your back, like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't pay attention.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't pay attention to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have the life you choose. Everybody does. We

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<v Speaker 2>have free will. Everyone can pick the life they choose.

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<v Speaker 2>They can pay attention to them, or they can pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention to minding their own life and making their own choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Your choices shouldn't be based on other people's opinions of

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<v Speaker 2>what you look like, or what you did yesterday or

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing tomorrow. It should be about what you

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<v Speaker 2>want and need. And also, you know, you have to

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>set realistic expectations. You can't say I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing this for thirty years. No one knows if they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get thirty years of anything in a career.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't say I want this amount of money. I

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<v Speaker 2>truly have never been a person that has ever worked

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<v Speaker 2>for money in my whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>Money isn't what matters.

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<v Speaker 2>What matters is your integrity and whether or not you

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<v Speaker 2>actually love what you do. If you're not afraid of

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<v Speaker 2>who you already are or where you've come from, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be afraid of anything moving forward, because the worst

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.919
<v Speaker 2>that can happen is you go back to who you

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 2>were yesterday, And so what, As long as you have

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.880
<v Speaker 2>peace with that, you're good and you're groovy and everything's

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 2>going to be fun. You have to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit fearless. But in the other way, you can't expect

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<v Speaker 2>and be fearless about the future because you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen. You have to be strong enough

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<v Speaker 2>to say, if I try this and I lose, worst

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<v Speaker 2>that could happen, I go back to me yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 2>what that was, Okay, I survived. And that's the way

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<v Speaker 2>I think about it. I think about it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite of the way I probably most people think

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've always had that mentality.

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<v Speaker 3>Always because that's the way I was raised.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandfather was my best friend, and my no No

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<v Speaker 2>was my nanny. Really he was my babysitter and raised

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<v Speaker 2>me when I was a little baby, and my mom

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<v Speaker 2>was his first born, so she was always his number

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<v Speaker 2>one in the kitchen and always by his side, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were very, very extremely close. They're they're very much connected.

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<v Speaker 2>And I lived my life basically the same way I

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<v Speaker 2>did when I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was baby two, three, four, five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when I learned who I would become, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been the same.

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<v Speaker 1>God. It's so it's so cool hearing that from someone

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<v Speaker 1>like you, because I think a lot of people sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>romanticize the journey of falling into a spiral in their

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<v Speaker 1>lives and having to overcome such you know, hardships in

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>their line of work in terms of Oh, I didn't

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like I was worthy, or I didn't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I should be chosen, or I felt like the world

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was against me. And you've always had this

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<v Speaker 1>mentality of like, I'm gonna work hard, I deserve to

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>be here. I'm gonna tune out the noise, let's go.

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I love to work, and I come from a long

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>line of people that love to work. Like my grandpa

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 2>would work eighty or more hours a week, go home

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 2>and sing to his children in the middle of the

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>night and cook all night and have the food ready

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 2>for them when they would get out of school the

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>next day. My mama worked one hundred hours a week.

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>It would sleep in a booth at Howard Johnson's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after twelve buses of Canadian skiers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I like to be around people that like

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<v Speaker 3>to work.

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:32.439
<v Speaker 2>It makes me feel it makes me feel period, and

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that's why I love working in Ukraine and

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>working with kids. I feel like my life actually matters

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 2>when I'm with people that work hard, fight hard, try

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 2>hard at everything, and are still happy, Like they find

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 2>a way to smile and hug each other and share

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 2>food and love one another. Beautiful thing to watch and

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>feel and absorb. It changes everything to be in that climate.

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 2>From the time I was a kid to now my

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 2>mid fifties, it is the most significant thing in my life.

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Even on our honeymoon when we were in Africa. You know,

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you're in communities where some of the community works at

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>resorts and in town and stuff, and they bring back

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.239
<v Speaker 2>their money and they give it to everybody so all

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>the children can have school books in a school uniform.

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 2>It's just these beautiful situations that I've seen all of

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 2>my adult life now because I was trained that way

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>as a child.

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I really.

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing I'm more grateful for in my whole life

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>than the way I was raised.

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd set you up for this entire life journey

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that you were on, and it's so beautiful. I think

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that's really cool. And it's evident you hold your life

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>so close, which I think is a secret sauce recipe

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in life. It's not forgetting those people along the way right,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>holding them near and.

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Dear, No, I talked to it, as I said, I

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 2>talked to most everyone that I've worked with over the

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>last couple of decades often and text and send Christmas

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 2>boxes and Hanukkah gifts, and you know, they're a part

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 2>of my family.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 3>And I feel that your family can grow every year.

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>It depends on you, know, if you can grinch out

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 2>and make your heart tend sizes too big or not.

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, you just got to make room for more

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 3>and more people.

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So is there a way over the last few years,

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, so much has changed in your life, You're

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>developing so many new projects, You're in a new chapter

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of your entire life and career. Is there a way

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that you can pinpoint that you think you've changed? Or

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>does change not really happen for you so much because

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.959
<v Speaker 1>you've kind of maintained that consistent girl that you've been

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>your whole life.

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 3>No, I think that we can always change, and I

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 3>strive to.

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I get lazy at it. Though I've been studying Italian

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 2>for like a decade. I shouldn't be there. I should

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>be done. My husband studies it now too, and I'm

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>so happy for him because I think he's up to

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and forty eight days.

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Of due lingo in a row or something.

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow. I do these lessons from my friend Lorenzo Mararia,

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 2>and they are really tough. He's a toughie and I

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>work so hard on him, and then if I see mistakes,

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>he sends back the corrections. You know, I get so

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>broken hearted him. I let him down. But I'm always

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>trying to learn something new. And I love to draw,

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I love to read, I love to write. And I

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 2>was just making notes today on not only the shows

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>that I'm trying to accomplish right now, but on books

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I want to do. I want to do a foodles

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>book because I love drawing foodles.

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I draw the pictures of a recipe and then I

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>write the recipe and I put them in the Christmas

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>boxes at the holidays, as you know. So I want

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>to do a book of foodles for kids. I wanted

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>the Living Kitchen Upstate and the Living Kitchen Tuscany. I

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>want to do some back writing about what I love

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>about the places we live and why, and do a

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 2>couple more cookbooks along the way.

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 3>That'll be thirty one and thirty two. I think I

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 3>don't know a lot.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 2>But I love that feeling of a little bit of

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>excitement mixed with a little bit of pressure. When am

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I going to get to this one? And when am

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I going to get to that one? You know, it

0:30:58.560 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>makes me happy.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>There's not many things you haven't done, and this just

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>popped into my mind. Would you ever do anything or

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>do you have any interest in the scripted world?

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I've thought about it over the years. I'm Mary Juliani.

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Always wants me to do something scripted with her. She's

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 2>a little my little firecracker, that one.

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I love her.

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't say no, but it's not like top of my list.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 2>But please feel free if you'd like to put me

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>in something stripped me.

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>A shout because like, what can't you do at this point?

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, I don't know it's fun, But

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I friend, I have such an annoying voice.

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm shocked still have a job.

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh please please? Well that voice is all over the

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast world now, which I love. I am a very

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>tough podcast critic listener. I love your show. I love

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>your show. It's like you were born to do it.

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>For you, like, what made you want to do a podcasts?

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a very different medium for.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>You, because I believe in the concert that life is

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 2>so beautiful if you wake up in a positive frame

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 2>of mind and want to accomplish something with each and

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 2>every day that you open your eyes. And I'm fascinated

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>by people, all types of folks, like I had Rebecca

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Divine on. She was one of the last ones I

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>just taped in the last few weeks. And this is

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 2>a woman who was told she had six months to

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>live and that was like over seven years ago.

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>It's just.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I find so much joy in learning about people that

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>beat every odd that you can think of, and people

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>that find ways to make things work when they shouldn't,

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>or when things when they've been kicked down a lot

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and they popped right back up like a cork.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 3>I love stuff like that.

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>It makes me super happy, and I just love diving

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>more into that than you can do in five minutes

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>on a chat show. You know you have very limited time,

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>and they're always trying to rush you through different segments.

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to rush through everything in life. I

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>want to let people tell their whole story, not just

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>four minutes of their story.

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 3>I want to hear as much of it as possible.

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 2>So that was what excited me about going a little

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 2>bit down that road, is, Hey, let's listen to a

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>longer format of people that I truly respect and really value,

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>and what can we learn from each other from one another,

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and let's just share that with as many people as possible.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 3>That's why I got into it.

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I imagine, knowing you as well as I do,

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you're some with so much heart and curiosity, and when

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about something, you're really talking about it. You

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>don't like fluff. You're not a fluff person. So I imagine,

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, the talk show so fast

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's so small and condensed, and your little blocks

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>here and there, I imagine that wasn't probably as fulfilling

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>as something like a podcast or like this. And I

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>feel that way in some of my work too, you know.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 2>As you can expand you can expand on things, you know,

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 2>like when I'm on with someone like Harlan Coben, my

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 2>my dear, dear friend, and I respect and love his

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>work so much, obsessed, but I can really chat with

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>him because I trust him and we are truly friends.

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 2>So I can have that real time and share that

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 2>with people in a way that I know, hey, I know,

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 2>talk about this and less about that, and let's have

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 2>some fun. Let's get in there and show people a

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit a broader side of someone like that because

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I know them a little bit better. I also love

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>to have on people that I've just met, like Rebecca,

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>who we were just at a retreat together, a health

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 2>retreat together, and that's how I met her, and I

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 2>just said, I'm obsessed with you. She has her own

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 2>brilliant podcast, Brainy Bond, and she is gorgeous, beautiful woman, smart,

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 2>funny and has learned so much about how to stay alive.

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, the mom of four, by the way, looks

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 2>like bounce a quarter off of her.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 3>She's so fit.

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>And I just find bringing someone like that into the

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 2>bright spotlight for anybody that might be listening, could change

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>their life, you know, if they're battling cancer, if they're

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>scared to go to the doctor to even find out

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 2>if they have cancer, get screened, and then to hear

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a story like that, I could literally save a life

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>that day. I love that too. So there's the here's

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the new, Here's this someone I love and being able

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>to talk to that those two types of people and

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>share that information with as many people as we listen.

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 3>That's cool, that's really fun.

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that fuels my No, you're doing it, it fuels

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>my soul. And that's why I started this show, right, Like,

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I love the work I get to do with extra

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>on the carpets, and it's fun and it's the thing.

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 1>But you get three minutes with someone, it's not real conversation.

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was craving more of that connection. And I

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>often saw people I was interviewing wanted to have a

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>substantial conversation, but you just can't in those formats.

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Wait, it's formatted.

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And that's how this show was born. So

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I always ask this question in every episode of the

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>show based off the title of this show, which for you,

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I imagine might be a difficult one to answer. But

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the name of the show is called I've never said

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 1>this before, And that was born from having real moments

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>because I was tired of the fake I was tired

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>of the clickbait. I was tired of the headlines. I

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>wanted real moments and to give people the space to

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>say something whatever that question means to them that they

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe haven't had the chance to talk about in a

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>two minute or six minute interview before.

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Being someone there's anything left time.

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm like being someone that's talked for decades now.

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, But is there anything you can think

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>of that you maybe don't always get the chance to

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>say whatever that means to you.

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think I've.

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Already kind of said it just in chatting with you,

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 2>because I love you and trust you so much. But

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I've never wanted to be someone else ever. I have

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>never said to myself I wish I were that person.

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 2>And I have never allowed someone to break me in

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 2>public or in an interview. I just won't have it.

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 2>I just won't have it. If people try and take

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>you down, it's not going to get you anywhere. You

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 2>can go home and you can cry, or you can

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 2>tell your husband, your lover, your dog how much that

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 2>bothered you. But I just don't do anything like that

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>ever in public. And the first time I saw my husband,

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was gay and I tried to set

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 2>him up on a date with a male friend of

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 2>mine and he said, but I'm not gay, and then

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like check please, And I could not wait

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 2>to get him in the sack.

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:52.359
<v Speaker 1>That's my girl. That's my girl. That's my girl. I

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>couldn't love you more. Wow. Well it was a very

0:38:58.440 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>memorable evening.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 3>It was, and he is a blessed man.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yes, this is not stuff we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about on your talk show. I am here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere John is smiling with like a cocktail and hands,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to buy two different sized suits for his

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<v Speaker 2>wedding from Prada.

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<v Speaker 3>His jacket was one size, his trow is another.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, Rachel Ray, Yeah, I am here for this

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<v Speaker 1>chapter of your life. And I hope you still are

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying this chapter of your life if you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I certainly am. I'm a very lucky lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I kind of love you more as

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<v Speaker 1>we wrap up the show coming from you, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a really cool answer to get. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to know. How do you define success?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>That is so different than everybody else. It has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with money. Did you do your best today?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you work as hard as you could? And did

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<v Speaker 2>you share? Did you make food for people that were hungry,

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<v Speaker 2>that are standing in the same room or the same

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<v Speaker 2>house with you? How much did you give? How much

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<v Speaker 2>did you give is always how I define the success

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<v Speaker 2>of my day one hundred percent. How much did I

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<v Speaker 2>give to my dog, to my friends, to my neighbors,

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<v Speaker 2>to my husband, to my family. What did I do

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<v Speaker 2>today that allowed me to share with people is the

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<v Speaker 2>most important element of every day of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>God, that's beautiful. Wow, the truth. I'm letting that sink

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<v Speaker 1>in for a minute. That's truly beautiful. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>sharing that. Thank you for hanging out. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I've ever fully expressed to you over the years

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<v Speaker 1>how much you changed my life. From being on your show,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and getting to know you and giving me

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<v Speaker 1>a chance and giving me a shot and inviting me

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<v Speaker 1>back and becoming a regular in your family, it really

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<v Speaker 1>put me on the path, brought me to where I

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<v Speaker 1>am today. And you were a person you were You

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<v Speaker 1>were a person who.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring me, A talented person who sees people, who really

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<v Speaker 2>sees people and their their whole self, And you brought

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<v Speaker 2>us so many beautiful shared moments with very very special people.

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<v Speaker 2>You are truly truly gifted, talented, loving, sweet person.

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<v Speaker 3>I adore you. I always have and you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I met you it was it was a pretty instant chemistry. Absolutely, John,

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<v Speaker 1>You're lucky I'm gay, because i'd be I'd be sliding

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<v Speaker 1>right into Rachel's d MS and trying to pick her up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're lucky. You're lucky. Although from what I heard,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about anything. You're very gifted,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you, Tommy, and I have such respect for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope, I hope you do my podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>that I can do yours again anytime you like.

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<v Speaker 3>I just of sharing time with you. You know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I feel the same way. I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for hanging out, and we might pop up

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<v Speaker 1>upstate or in Italy. Do you well eat your whole

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen out, so be warned.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but I put you to work. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just come and eat for free. You gotta put a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. You gotta put a little bit of those

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<v Speaker 2>muscles into it too.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I got you, I got you. Oh, here's

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<v Speaker 1>Jill popping it from GMA. Say hello, beautiful face. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>here we go now I.

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<v Speaker 3>Hear you, Hi, Love. How are you guys doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>John? You guys we have to get all together at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Please come to Italy. Yes, wherever you want. Wherever we are,

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<v Speaker 3>You're always invited.

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<v Speaker 1>Italy, You're upsafe. The magic is where you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you guys, Love you guys, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out. Bye bye. I've Never Said This Before is

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<v Speaker 1>hosted by Me Tommy Dedario. This podcast is executive produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio and by Me Tommy, with

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