1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders Camp. Chamfer comes up 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: and just unload, getting you ready for Seahawks football. Every Sunday, 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Russell has time fires down, he isn't touchdown short. Powered 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: by Seahawks dot Com. Welcome to your weekly Seahawks Insider 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: podcast as we preview the Seahawks game against the New 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. I'm Jim Muller, sideline reporter for the Seahawks, 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: joined by John Boyle from Seahawks dot Com. And I 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: think John, we finally figured out kind of what to 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: make of Sunday's game, how to react. We liked the tie. 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: It's okay, we get okay, we can live with it. 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: We live with it all right. Could have been better, 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: could have been worse. That's right, pretty much what a 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: tie is. Yeah, this is true. And as I tweeted 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: out Sunday on the way home from the game, I 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: fell asleep on that plane, right and woke up. And 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: you know how your brain is kind of in that 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: in between state, Yeah, especially on a plane, and I 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: was trying so hard to remember who won the game, 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: and it just wasn't coming to me. Because we still 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: it still hasn't I've had an outcome three days later, 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: three days later, I am still struggling with that. Well, 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: before we get into this week's matchup and talk specifically 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: about the Saints, let's go back and just kind of 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: dissect what did we learn from that game one Sunday. 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: We learned the defense is not just good, which we 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: know for a long time, but really, gutty, I mean, 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: to play that well for as long as they did. 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: They were on the field for ninety five snaps when 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: you include a few penalties and their ninety official plays 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, and they gave up six points, and 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: that's a darn good offense. And to just stand up 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: over and over again. They had to stop them keep 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Matthian's own twice in overtime, they had a fourth down stop. 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just so much great play for 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: a quarter, a game plus a quarter. I think what 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I appreciated about that most. First of all, I didn't 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: realize what the snap count was until I was reading 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: some of your postgame articles. I don't get final stats 39 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: on a sideline, so I can see time of possession 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: and I know the guys have been out there. It 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: was unbelievable to me. To see like Kelsey mccraye's snap 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and eight snaps when you include special teams, 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: most of any player in the NFL this year. That's 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: exactly right. And what I loved in watching that defense, 45 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: I was expecting at some point the fatigue would set in, 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: or maybe the quick possession by the offense would be frustrating. Right, 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: they couldn't quite catch their breath. Every single time I 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: looked at the defense, their look was just let's bring 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: it on. What do you got? All? Right? Here we go. 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: They got this. They never back down from the challenge. 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: I like what you just mentioned about with the offense, 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: because it would be really easy in a game like 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: that to get mad, get frustrated, be like, hey, help 54 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: us out, you guys are you know we're doing our part, 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: you're not doing yours, you know. And you know what 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I heard from defensive players after the game. We could 57 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: have done more. We could have got turnovers, we could 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: have got the ball away and help the offense get 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: better field position. And they would add every right to 60 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: be a little annoyed that like we just played this, 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, historical type performance and walked out of here 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: the tie. Because the offense only had five first downs 63 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: in regulation, but no, they were just kind of thinking, well, 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: that's more we can do. And that's I think kind 65 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: of one of the cool things about this team is 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, it sounds corny, but when you hear 67 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: guys talking about this brotherhood and all that, it really 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: is a pretty unique group. The way they play together. 69 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: It really is, and it is special when you think 70 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: about two of the biggest plays in the game. For 71 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: Kelsey McCrae making that stop at the five yard line. 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: That was play I think like one oh four. He 73 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: was over one hundred at that point and I didn't 74 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: even realize it at the time. And you know, JJ 75 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Nelson's a kind of quick little receiver here on the 76 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: fastest combine of anyone in twenty fifteen, fastest forty at 77 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: the combine four two eight forty. So you're I mean, 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Kelsey mccrazin slout, she's got speed two but still to 79 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: be that late in the game, you've been on the 80 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: field that much. One of the fastest guys in the 81 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: NFL is running for the end zone, and to chase 82 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: him down like that was pretty amazing. And given where 83 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: they were on the field, and this just goes to 84 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: the resolve of the defense here, because it would have 85 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: been very easy to kind of just chocked it up 86 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: as well. This game is over there in field goal 87 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: and have the letter, because I think that's almost what 88 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: you saw a little bit with the Cardinals defense. They 89 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't quite have that same kind of finish that we've 90 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: gotten used to seen from the Seahawks. And I wonder 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: John if some of this doesn't just go back to 92 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 1: that San Francisco game that they were so upset about, 93 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: where they didn't finish in the fourth quarter the way 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: they wanted to. We saw it. Not that you can 95 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: make up for that, this is what they want to 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: look like. Yeah, and they you know, they talked about 97 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: that after that game that even you know, they won 98 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: that game comfortably and most people wouldn't have even really 99 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: noticed the yard and the points they gave up. It 100 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: really ate Adam, and they talked about learning from that 101 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: and getting better from that. And I think we've seen 102 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: that since then. They've they've been a better finish. I 103 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: mean in the Atlanta game, they had that terrible third quarter, 104 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: finished really strong. Yeah, And for those wondering, yes, the 105 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: snap count is awfully high, and it does feel a 106 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: little bit like a short week, but it's not. The 107 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks did planned Sunday. They got back little later than 108 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: originally expected. The guys have been doing a little bit 109 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: of extra treatment in the form of massages. We heard 110 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: Bobby talk about hot yoga and getting his epsom salt 111 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: baths in there, so they're doing some of that. But 112 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: as kJ Wright said today, Pete has already said that 113 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: will not be an excuse for anything that happens on Sunday. 114 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: You better get over it because I do not care 115 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: how long that game went on Sunday. You've got another 116 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: one to see exactly. The NFL is not gonna say, oh, 117 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: you guys played really hard, We're gonna push your game 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: back to Monday some extra time. Yeah, this's the card zone. 119 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: They're dealt and they're delt. They feel good about the 120 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: way they've traveled and they'll they'll do well and they 121 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: probably get a little bit of help on defense this 122 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: week is it looks like Cam Chancellor could be set 123 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: to return and Kevin Pierre Lewis could also be set 124 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: to return, and injury wise, a little bit of a 125 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: mixed bag, I think coming out of that Arizona game. Yeah, 126 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean the good news, Bradley sal we saw go down. 127 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: You know, as he was saying to us in locker room, 128 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: he was on crutches after the game and all that, 129 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: and to be we you know, Pete care All said yesterday, 130 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: it's still pretty unrealistic for him to play, but the 131 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: fact that it's even on the table is a possibility, 132 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: and Bradley sound like he at least wants to give 133 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: it a go and see where he's at at the 134 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: end of the week. And you know, even if he 135 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: can't go, the fact that he's remotely close bodes well 136 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: for the future for them to get him back sooner 137 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: and later. And then the one everyone's going to talk 138 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: about it, obviously, Russell Wilson shows up on the injury 139 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: report with another injury, his pectoral injury. We just heard 140 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: from him. He said he's okay, and you know he's 141 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: managing it this week. Well, well, I'm sure we'll see 142 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: him limited just in the number of throws. But he 143 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: The good news is he said the injury happened. He 144 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: doesn't know exactly when, but before overtime and then he 145 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: went out and played the offense was the best it 146 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: was in overtime. Yeah, that is good. So he's got 147 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: no concerns about going over over going out there again 148 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and says the plan is for him to play. 149 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: But he did not look like himself last week. I 150 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: think even from the beginning, wasn't there. Yeah, And I 151 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: don't know how much that was anything physical for I mean, 152 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: he's playing through the knee and the ankle stuff, so 153 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it was anything there. Just Arizona. That's 154 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: a good defense, and they're doing some really good things 155 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: in their pass rush to make things difficult for the Seahawks. 156 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: And then you know they were just there are a 157 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: couple plays, a couple third down plays early where Russell 158 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: might have been a tiny that off the market. It's 159 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: one of us. Is it a drop? Is it about through? 160 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Just kind of in that gray area of the throw 161 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: could have been better, but the guy could have caught it. 162 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: And you get one or two of those, you sustain 163 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: the drive, we might be talking about a different story. 164 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: But instead they just could not stay on the field 165 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: and it turned into a really rough day for the offense. Yeah, 166 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: and Russell did joke today saying, well, you know, the 167 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: good news. I know that I landed on the injury 168 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: report for a different injury, but the good news is 169 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: my ankle feels much better, so perhaps we're going to 170 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: see him pick up some of those running yards again. 171 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: It looks like Thomas Rawls could rejoin the team for 172 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: their Monday night game. And I'm just wondering, when you 173 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: take a look at those offensive stats, are you concerned 174 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: about where they are running the ball? Not overly concerned. 175 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: It's not where they want to be right now. I 176 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: do think long term they're gonna find it. I think 177 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: getting you know, this offensive line is still relatively new 178 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: playing together as a unit, so they're going to get better. 179 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: They're gonna get Thomas Rowles back eventually, and Russell Wilson 180 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: is gonna become more of a run threat. And you 181 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: add all that up, I think they've you know, maybe 182 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: done enough damage statistically speaking that they might they be 183 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: in one of the top teams by the end of 184 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: the year. Rushing might not be in the cards for them, 185 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: but if they finished here running the ball well, and 186 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: they're going to the playoffs running the ball well, that's 187 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: what's gonna matter. Because there's still four one on one 188 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: in first place. So as much as we talk about 189 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: the issues they've had running the ball and some of 190 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: the inconsistencies on third down and whatever else, they're in 191 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: pretty good shape right now. So if they can get 192 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: it going, then they could be in great shape when 193 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: it matters most. And those third downs keep coming up, 194 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: not just here in this discussion, but it's something that 195 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: Russell said to the media and his session this week, 196 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll noted that, and I want to talk about 197 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: third downs, but I also want to ask about the 198 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: impact of potentially having George Fant start, because we talked 199 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: about the injury to Bradley Swell and then everybody's asked, well, 200 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: what do we know about fans? Not a lot. Yeah, 201 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's one of those where part of 202 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: you thinks, oh boy, it's an undrafted rookie. This could 203 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: be dicey potentially, But on the other hand, if it works, 204 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: it's a really cool story because this is a guy. 205 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't play football in high school even 206 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: and then he went to college, was a great basketball 207 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: player in Western Kentucky, All conference guy decided to switch 208 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: to football for exactly this reason. He knew the kind 209 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: of athleticism he had could potentially make him an NFL player, 210 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: and here he is there. I mean, he's still going 211 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: to be raw, but they've been really impressed considering how 212 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: minimum he played one year as a tight end, he 213 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: was a backup, he barely played in college. They've been 214 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: so impressed with how quickly he's picked things up and 215 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: learn and to the point that they were comfortable putting 216 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: him in there in an important game, a tie game. 217 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: And he you know, he wasn't perfect, but he wasn't 218 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: you know what you would expect an undrafted rookie basketball 219 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: player to be either. Yeah, you know what this means. 220 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: If you've got a former tight end and fan and 221 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: a former tight end and Gilly, you could have a 222 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of tackle eligible place. Could there could be some 223 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: really fun place with a backup center a fullbacker, right right? 224 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: That's true? Yeah, weird, This is some some heavy offensive 225 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: skis we should probably call us Yeah, they probably should. 226 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Um when you talk about the run game, here's one 227 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: of the notes that I made about this Saints defense. 228 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: And I am curious to see what George Fant looks 229 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: like if he is the starter this week, and what 230 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: he looks like for four quarters. I think this is 231 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: probably a good matchup for him against a Saints defense. 232 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: It is not as aggressive as some of those other 233 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: teams that we've seen in recent weeks, and they've allowed 234 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: eleven rushing touchdowns this year, that's the most in the NFL. 235 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: So perhaps this is kind of good on all fronts 236 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: to reset and to get going. Yeah, I mean, I 237 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: don't want to disparage any NFL defense because I mean, 238 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: these are all professionals. They're all good, but some are 239 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: better than others and different styles. Yes, and this could be, 240 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: you know, sort of a get right situation where it's 241 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: gonna be hard. You go in that building, it is 242 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: hard to play there. But when you look at the 243 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: numbers across the board, this is a team that relies 244 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: more on into offense and defense to win, and they've 245 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: given up some yards and some points and so this 246 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: is a good chance for the Yarks to kind of 247 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: get some things cleaned up. And there you know, the 248 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: Saints have nine saxes here, so this isn't a pass 249 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: rush nearly as dangerous as some that they've seen already. 250 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of reasons to think we should 251 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: see more out of the offense this week well, and 252 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: maybe even more out of Jimmy Graham, who on Sunday 253 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: was on the field for ninety seven percent of the 254 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: snap sets, the most that he has been on the 255 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: field this year. He was also targeted more than any 256 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: other pass catcher on Sunday. And as you mentioned, the 257 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: Saints allow over four hundred yards of offense a game, 258 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: and they are last in points allowed thirty two points 259 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: a game. And how about this, They've given up thirty 260 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: four or more points four times this season. Those are 261 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: even in the games they've won their allowing points. So 262 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: if we kind of put all of these factors together 263 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Graham going back to New Orleans, you could 264 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: find the so a couple of times, it stands to 265 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: reason he could. I mean, I think he's in a 266 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: position to do that against any team. He's he's got 267 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: twenty three catches the last four games. I believe he's. 268 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we've really it's been about a month 269 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: now of seeing what the Seahawks traded a first round 270 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: pick for. I mean, it took some time to get going, 271 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: and then he obviously got hurt last year, so it's 272 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: been you know, maybe the fans a little disappointing not 273 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: seeing kind of their returns they were hoping for on 274 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: that trade. But he's been I mean, maybe not sheer 275 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: volume wise, because the Seahawks don't throw as much as 276 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: the Saints did when Jimmy Graham was there. But we're 277 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: seeing that player. I mean, we're seeing that all pro 278 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level tight end. And we didn't really talk 279 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: to him more than just kind of a passing high 280 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: in the locker room. How much do you think this 281 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: game matters to him? Knowing his personality. We're hoping maybe 282 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: we get to hear from tomorrow about that, but yeah, 283 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: I think you know it matters. And I don't think 284 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be one of those sometimes guys are 285 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: bitter about their old team and it's like a spiteful thing. 286 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be that. There's a 287 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: really good relationship there between Jimmy Graham and that team 288 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: in that city. Drew Brees talked about that with the 289 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: media down there today, just how much he's still kind 290 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: of a figure that a lot of fans really care 291 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: about and like so, I don't think this is going 292 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: to be one of those fans booing him and he's 293 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: out to get his old team. I just think it's 294 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: going to be special for him because he had a 295 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of big moments and big games in that stadium 296 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: and that city means a lot to him, and a 297 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of those teammates are still there, Drew Brees being 298 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: among them, so I think it's going to be a 299 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: pretty cool experience for him. Also means that Max Hunger 300 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: will be playing against his former team. Max Unger has 301 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: made twenty two starts since that trade. He is in 302 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: the middle of that offensive line and he's one of 303 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: the reasons that the Saints offense works the way it does. 304 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: That and the fact that Drew Brees is calling the 305 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: shots and running the show. He is one of the 306 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks. It just getting the ball out, Yeah, Generating 307 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: a pass rush against him is going to look very 308 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: different this week than playing Carson Palmer last week. Exactly. 309 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: They've allowed nine sacks the season, one of the lowest. 310 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: I think it's second fewest in the league, and it's 311 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: some of that is the line they they do a 312 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: good job protecting, but a huge part of that is 313 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: just getting the ball up. Pete Carroll talked about that 314 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: on one day it's you know, right around two seconds 315 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: at the average time he's getting the balls. I don't 316 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: care how good your pass rush is. Unless you get 317 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: a completely unblocked blitzer, you're not getting home in two seconds. 318 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: So it's you know, that's where you've got to be, 319 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: maybe even more aggressive and coverage, and you'd usually be 320 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: because if you just you know, it's Pete Carroll said, 321 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: I if you sit back, play soft defense, he'll pick 322 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: you apart all. He'll just take his six eight yards 323 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: all day long. Which is interesting because when I talked 324 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: to de shan Shit and Richard Sherman and I said, okay, 325 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: so what does that aggressive coverage look like against the 326 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Saints differently than what we normally see and they kind 327 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: of gave me this look and they're like, I don't 328 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: know what he's got in mine because we've been pretty 329 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: aggressive the last couple of weeks against It's not really 330 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: their nature to sit back and give a ten yard 331 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: cushion anyway, So I don't And maybe that's why we've 332 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: seen this defense have a lot of success against the Saints, 333 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: because that's that's a style they like to play. They're 334 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: gonna I mean, look, there's something there on every plane. 335 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: If they check down little stuff in the middle, they're 336 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: going to get some completions. But as we've seen as defense, 337 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: when they're on top of things, they're gonna hit you 338 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: hard when you catch that in the middle of the the field, 339 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get much. Yeah, And I think 340 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: that you really start to see that later in the game. 341 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: So if the yards happen in the first half of 342 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: the game, which I believe, the Saints have scored a 343 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: touchdown on the opening drive in every game this season. 344 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: They have also scored in fourteen consecutive quarters. I'm curious 345 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: to see what the Seahawks defense does, particularly late in 346 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: this game, because thanks in part to the points allowed 347 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: last week, they are still tops in the league. Yeah 348 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: and points allowed, Yeah, I mean they're They've got a 349 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: long way to go, but if they could keep that up, 350 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: that would be five straight years in the league. I 351 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: love what kJ told us today in the locker room. 352 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, like, you could do this once, but the 353 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: real joy for them is doing this over and over again. 354 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: And I've talked to some players about that, and it's 355 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: kind of answering what made me first go there was 356 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: the opposite side of it. Pete Carroll's talking Drew Brees, 357 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: and he said, what a great player is you know, 358 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't really consider a guy great until he's done 359 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: it over and over. In any team, any player can 360 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: have one good year. We see a defense every year 361 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: pop up and be in the conversation with the Seahawks 362 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: for the best events. But they've been in that conversation 363 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: now for four and a half seasons, and there's no 364 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: reason to think they won't be next year, in the 365 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: year beyond that. Because the nucleus of that defense they're 366 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: all in their twenties. I mean, other than the two 367 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: pass rushers Mike Ben and Cliff Ayroll, who are both, 368 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, right around thirty. I don't have the roster 369 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: in front of me, but they're right around that age. 370 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: All those other guys are, you know, twenty eight younger. 371 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: So it's the consistency with which they've done at the 372 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: discipline that they play with. It's pretty remarkable, especially in 373 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: an era where so much favors offense. Yeah. Yeah, And 374 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: Richard Truman has pointed that out. We have I never 375 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: heard that. He's not very opinionated, but every once in 376 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: a while he shares one last item on my list 377 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: because I've gotten a few questions about it this week. 378 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: Special teams any concern with where they are and with 379 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: how shka No, I mean he's missed ale and they've 380 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: been different. We saw a couple of weeks ago. Is 381 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: kind of a snap issue that messed up the timing 382 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: for what Pete Carroll talked about this. For whatever reason, 383 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: he's struggling Arizona, and so I think, you know, one 384 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: of those things. And I don't know if it's it 385 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: could be a physical thing, a mental thing. I mean, 386 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: maybe I don't. I haven't talked to Steven about it, 387 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: but maybe one time he slipped on that turf two 388 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: years ago and it's gotten in his head. Who knows. 389 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: But they don't play there again this year, so they 390 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: don't really need to worry about that. And I mean, 391 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: his body work is way too good to worry too 392 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: much about a tiny old above in the road, And 393 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: so is his demeanor. You know, he's one of those 394 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: ones when he kicks the game winner, you want to 395 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: talk to him, but you kind of don't want to 396 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: talk to him because he's never going to show that 397 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: he's super. I mean, that's it's perfect you don't want 398 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna be riding the highs and lows 399 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: of that job, because if you can't get too down 400 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: when that happened, I don't care how good a kicker is. 401 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: If you're in the NFL this long, you're gonna miss 402 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: a game winner, You're gonna miss a clutch kicks. It's 403 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And he's the kind of guy, he's got 404 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: the demeanor a bounce back from that. Yeah, I would agree, 405 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: and I would predict probably more points on the board 406 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: this week to New Orleans. Yeah, yeah, I think between 407 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: both teams that's probably safe. John Well, thank you. Sometimes 408 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: I go out on a limb, you know, and that 409 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: means that John Boy will have much more to write 410 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: about or lots of different things to write about this week. 411 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: On Seahawks dot com, that's where you can find all 412 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: of the coverage leading up to and of course about 413 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: the game. 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