1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to step 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I'd never told your production to I Heart Radio, and 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of Happy Hour. Before we start, 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: just a reminder, we are seeking one of you to 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: come sit with us virtually, that is, to watch an 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: episode of Sex in the City. As you know, we've 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: been doing a whole watch party. We've been doing a 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: whole viewing and getting all of the reactions from Annie, 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: which our delight um, and we would love to have 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: you on to do a reaction with us as well. 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: If you're interested, all you have to do is contact 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: us through email, social media however, and let us know. Hey, 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm willing to come on. So yeah, put your name in, 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: we'll do a little drawing and we'll let you know. 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: As always, if you're drinking, be responsible, do what you 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: need to, but be an adult about it. I guess 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: I know adulting sucks, but making sure you stay well 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: in your limits, whether it's too much caffeine, too much 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: of anything, you know, just be aware, do you, but 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: cautiously care with care. How about you? I love that? 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Well that's for me. Honestly, I was like, way, they 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: need to pull it back. It's just just a little bit, 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: as you know. So that's kind of my theme, I think. 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: And of course we are not sponsored by what we 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: are talking about today as of today, so maybe some 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: things will change because we do, uh get some of 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: the surprise ads and then if you're listening way down 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: the road and then you're like, it is this you know? 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: Please know we didn't know at that point in time. 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: So at this point, though we are sponsored content, no 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: sponsorship was a part of this specific episode. Yeah, yes, 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: called the dynamic sponsors, which means they change all of 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: our past episode ads. So yes, as of now, we're 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: not talking about this because of us sponsorship. But if 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: you listening in the future and if you are one 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: of those people who rests these things, and it will 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: be like, hey, this is like my connection call us. 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Hey I love I know I am that old. This 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: is okay, let me do me. But you know what, 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: before we start, I need to ask you if you 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: were to go viral, what do you think you would 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: go viral for? Or have you? I don't think I 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: knew this if you did, Oh, I've never gone viral. 44 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: I think for me, the closest thing I've gotten is 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: like one time I got a hundred likes on a 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: tweet and I was like, oh wow, that's amazing because 47 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: when I get tin I was like, yes, I win, 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Yes exactly. I think we're about in the same boat 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: in that manner. I think I possibly could go viral 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: for some cause play hilarity. Um, I think that. I 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: mean this is a different episode, but one time our boss, 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: at one of our previous bosses, because we've been bought 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: out by several different companies, he sat us down and 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: showed us that what does the Fox Say video? He 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: made us watch it, and then at the Andy said, 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: why can't we go viral like this? You can't anticipate 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: what goes viral? Right, Um? So I think it would 58 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: be a random cause play like Phenomena where I was 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: dressed as disco Luke and somebody was dressed as disco 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: greaterer and somehow it just took off. Something like that. 61 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: We need just to happen. Can we make this happen? 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: I guess we need to TikTok for that, but we 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: haven't gone that far in our in our brand. Uh. Yes, 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: that that takes a lot of time commitment, and I'm 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: not sure. On top of doing the actual content that 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: we do. As you know if you follow our social media, 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: we don't do a lot of content anymore, mainly because 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: we got really caught up in doing all the actual 69 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: podcasting content, as well as the fact we are petrified 70 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: that we're going to do something wrong, as we've talked 71 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: about before, or being embarrassed, which is kind of what 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today, not necessarily being embarrassed, 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: but talking about viral memes or videos and why it 74 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: can influence so many things. And yeah, we're talking about 75 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: a drink uh that has swept the internet today October 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: twenty two. So for those maybe listening in being like 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: what believe me it was big okay um and talking 78 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: about the people of the House of the Dragon from 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: HBO Max. So, yes, there is some spoilers ahead. We're 80 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: not gonna go too deep. We're just gonna kind of 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: talk around it, but there may be things they're like, 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: why did you say that? So if you've not caught 83 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: up the finales this weekend, I'm sure this maybe dated 84 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: by this point, but yeah, so things are happening and 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's getting this big buzz, but 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever, I still like it. But before we start, 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: we do want to talk about this video that became 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: a meme, which is from the clip HBO Max where 89 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: the actress Olivia Cook interviewed Emma Darcy and was like, hey, 90 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: what's your drink of choice? And I know if you know, 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, in which they respond with a new groni 92 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: spargliato with prosecco. And I know I did not do 93 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: that well, So don't just don't con don't it because 94 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: essentially the way they said it was people were talking 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: about how that changed their sexuality or that was their 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: defining sexuality. The way they said it, the way they 97 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: presented it, everything and the interaction between the two of them, 98 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: which was a delight to see. And because of this, 99 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: I was like, Annie, guess what we're gonna do. We're 100 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: making negroni spargliato with prosecco, which is how it's made 101 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: for this happy hour. Aren't you so excited? I am excited. 102 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: I had. I'm not plugged in to the scene. I 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: hadn't heard about this, but I recently did a very 104 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: quick family trip. Uh and id I mentioned it? No 105 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: one in my family watches The House of the Dragon, 106 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: our game of rooms and they all knew what I 107 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: was talking about. Is that my mom? But I was like, wow, 108 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: it must be really big thing, right And of course, 109 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: so because we love a good meme or we love 110 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: a good drink, we had to jump on to this. 111 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: And if you want to know what it is is uh, 112 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: one and a half ounces of sweep remooth, one and 113 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: a half ounces of compari, one and a half ounces 114 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: of prosecco or any other sparkling wine, and bogliato. Apparently 115 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: in Italians translated to being a mistake or bungling, So 116 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: this was made out of a mistake because the negronis 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: typically with gin with a twist of orange. Uh. And 118 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: I was like, how we're doing this? And I made 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: mine and we had to drop off ingredients to dear 120 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: Annie because of course she does not keep this stocked, 121 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: including the orange. Did you use the orange? I did 122 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: use the orange. Proud of you? What do you think 123 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: I could? I like it? At first? I my first 124 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: tip was too strong, and I think that the flavors 125 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: needed to melt a bit more. Um. And I was 126 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: telling Samantha, I just got two vaccines. Some my arms 127 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: were very sore and I had a struggled opening to prosecco. UM, 128 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: So I think I was in a rush and I 129 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: just kind of like haphazardly stirred and came in here. 130 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, now that it's kind of the flavors had mashed, 131 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: I really like it. Um it's quite strong. It is, 132 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: which isn't bad. But it's just because we're recording this 133 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: early in a work day. It just happened to me 134 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: that way. We're not doing this on purpose. So pro 135 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: tip from my partner who is he likes doing the mixology, 136 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: putting the champagne or the prosecco in first and then 137 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: doing the mixture, because in this it says ad promotes 138 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Cabari to a mixed class build. I started to combine 139 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: and chill straight into champagne flute top with prosecco and 140 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: start again. Of course you could just stir, but he 141 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: did at the opposite and it kind of melted a 142 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: little better. I think serve on rocks, I did not 143 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: mind that the champagne flute. How do you serve that 144 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: on ice? I did not So. I looked at a 145 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: few recipes before this, and they're all generally the same 146 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: except for this mixing part. Yeah, mine said to put 147 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: it to use ice. Put ice in first, the one 148 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: that I ended up going with, So okay, I put 149 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: it in a big ice cube because I'm a fancy adult. 150 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you are, so how did you do it? I 151 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: put in my big square ice cube, and then I 152 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: mixed in the campari and the vermuse, and then I 153 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: topped with prosecco, which I didn't measure. I just topped 154 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: it um and then with a wedge of orange that 155 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: kind of twisted, and then put inside nice. So yeah, 156 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: so I am not a super Negroni fan. I do 157 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: not love kompari. It tastes like cough medicine to me. Sorry, 158 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm not cool like that. We added a squeeze of 159 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: the orange into the shaker with the two comparing vermouth, 160 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: and then a large twist of orange bield and shook it. 161 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna make an inappropriate chuck, I'm not going to, 162 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: but it shook the hell out of it, essentially, like 163 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: it was constantly to the point that we had to 164 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: switch off and he had to shake it, and then 165 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: like it got really cold because we didn't shaker. It 166 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: was the whole thing so beat like it just like 167 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: it is definitely shaking, not stirred for me. And so 168 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: we added all that and I'm tasting it in a 169 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Champain fluid. I guess I'm missing the ice. I don't 170 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: love ice anyway. I think that downs. I don't have 171 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: a large ice cube. I'm not special apparently. I know 172 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: we'll fix us soon, but yeah, this is the drink. 173 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: And also what's so funny is when that meme came out, 174 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm planning to do, as you know, a little viewing 175 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: party with some of the I Heart fam to come 176 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: over because I love seeing our friends from the from 177 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: our work. We are actually friends. Um and one of 178 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: our friends, Lyle, who we've talked about before, send me 179 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: a text after I told you what we're gonna do, 180 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: that just literally had a link to the Growning Spogliato 181 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: and that's all he said. I was like, oh, yeah, 182 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: that will be featured, and he was like yes. So 183 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: we had a whole thing and I'm like, this is 184 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: a huge thing and that's kind of the big deals, 185 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: like the amount of pressure. So uh. The actor Emma Darcy, 186 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: who is non binary, when they asked them how did 187 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: you feel about this? They said they were really embarrassed. 188 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: They were like, we were just trying to make Olivia 189 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: Cook laugh because they've been at it all day. They've 190 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: been doing this promotional thing all day and the intention 191 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: was making each other laugh moving on. Did not think 192 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: it was a big deal, did not think it was 193 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: going to be literally a queer icon moment, and so 194 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: having a moment to reflect on that, and they even 195 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: talked about how they wanted to send that their mother, 196 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: Like they're like, oh, we have to tell them, but 197 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: they're like, they don't understand memes and that's a whole 198 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: different thing. And that's like, I understand that. I understand that. 199 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: And then let me think about all of the things. 200 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, God, what would you want to 201 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: go viral for? And I'm like, I think what I 202 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: would go viral for is me either ranting or doing 203 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: something where I fall in our palmsy like those are 204 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: the two, or or peaches my dog, So one of 205 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: those three things. But then I actually think we're gonna 206 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: go viral. I hope it's not because of me ranting, 207 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: because there's no telling as that would be good or bad. Yeah, 208 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, after I said what I said, I do 209 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of the things that go viral are, 210 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, like somehow your pants fall down and you 211 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: get hit by a truck and then right, oh my god, 212 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: that's a whole different conversation. Just watched the horror movie 213 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: about about this very thing. Oddly, pants still down? Yes, really, okay, 214 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: you'll you'll have to ask me about it later, asked later, 215 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you really can't tell what's going 216 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: to take off. And it is something that I totally get, 217 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, if you're embarrassed by, even if it's something 218 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: that's not embarrassing necessarily, but it's like what you become 219 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: known for. Right, that is a lot of pressure to 220 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: be like, oh, here's this queer eicon moment, which it's 221 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: not bad at all, but it was like, oh right, 222 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: that's a lot to live to. So they are a 223 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: non binary actor. That was not really a big deal, 224 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: which I love. I love to see that. It just was. 225 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: Of course they are portraying the adult version, so they 226 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: are tying portraying the adult princess or near a Targerion 227 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: and the adult queen Allison high Tower who Olivia Cook 228 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: is um which they only come in like an episode 229 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: four or five. I think I can't quite remember, and 230 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: they've done a great job. But yeah, so it's really 231 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: interesting to see these two as the lead of this 232 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: show because Game of Thrones have never been mind has 233 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: never been kind to women as in fact, if I 234 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: remember correctly, and I have not read these books, so 235 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: please let me know if I'm wrong, it gets even 236 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: more graphic in the books and what is actually shown 237 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: in some of the shows, I believe. So yeah, yeah, 238 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: and I uh, I was thinking about this last night. 239 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: The amount of episodes we do, we kind of get 240 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: back up sometimes of certain things. And I've been meaning 241 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: to do am fictional women on a character from the 242 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. But it is one of those things 243 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: where watching House of the Dragon, I there are certain 244 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: lines that they have in there that feel kind of 245 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: like out of place, where they're like, we're trying to 246 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: do better to women, see and they I mean, it 247 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: is an improvement, but it's it's sort of jarring, right 248 00:13:54,280 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: when they sort of have these almost direct statements, right, Okay, Well, 249 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: that's the thing is like we also know when it 250 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: comes to fantasy that's placed in timelines that are not 251 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: kind of women in general. That's a whole different conversation 252 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: that we should have anyway, because how do you how 253 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: do you rectify loving fantasy, but when it is so 254 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: unkind people of color, especially like when I'm talking about it, 255 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: I love seeing the representation. And we've talked about it before, 256 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: how people were upset that there wore black elves or 257 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: black noblemen when during the time they were being oppressed, 258 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: and we get it because there's this level of like 259 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: it needs to be pure, like elves don't exist, or 260 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: now that does any of the characters game with thrones 261 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: or dragons, So calm down. But there's this whole level 262 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: of trying to be a part of it, be represented, 263 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: but it wasn't kind. So they're holding a steadfast to 264 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: the fact that women are not welcomed as leaders, you know, 265 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: to that um, to that genre, to what it would 266 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: it look like if they did. So it's just it 267 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: is it's a whole their complication. But I will say 268 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: the House of the Dragon. Again, we're only in season one, 269 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: so this could change drastically if it continues. Uh, but 270 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: the first season was pretty grotesque of Game of Throne, 271 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: like I do like, but like you immediately jump into 272 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: a sixteen seventeen year old being raped uh and given 273 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: away to marriage like it's and it's portrayed for no 274 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: damn reason, for no reason. There's no reason for that 275 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: scene in which uh Danny gets raped by her husband 276 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: other than it just as I ten second clip of 277 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: her being raped while she's looking at her eggs like 278 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: it's just kind of one of those things of like 279 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: why was this necessary? Again, there's no real point to it, 280 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: which the House of the Dragon has mentioned rape without 281 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: showing it, so I'm like that works. That worked to me. 282 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: In which against spoiler, one of the High Tower kids 283 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: uh slash obviously they are Targarian because she's married to 284 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: the king, but one of her kids, Alison's kids, who's 285 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be Keen, apparently rapes a servant. And this 286 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: conversation is really gross. But at the same time they 287 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: don't show it, which thank you, let's we don't have to. 288 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't it's there, The conversation is there. He's an 289 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: awful dude. You see it right there without having to 290 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: see it. M M. So it's kind of a conversation 291 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, I don't know what they're doing 292 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: this on purpose or if they're building up and we're 293 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: gonna get slapped in the face. I mean, there's so 294 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: many things we could talk about, and you and I 295 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: have had conversations. I've been torn, I've been stressed. This 296 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: is all different. I know you're going to do an episode. 297 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: This is a whole different You've been stressed about. It 298 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: is I but I remember forever ago when we did 299 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: we did our episode on what I call like what 300 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: is and what should be? And that was sort of 301 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: what Game of Phones is a very good example of 302 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: what I was trying to articulate, which is like, yeah, 303 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't great to women, but it seems like a 304 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of very often male creators are putting in these 305 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: scenes where we're witnessing this horrible thing happened to a 306 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: woman that we don't need to And a lot of 307 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: times I feel like with Game of Thrones, it was 308 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: so about the shock factor. It was so about like, 309 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: look how horrible everybody is. And I'm like, I get 310 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: it right, they're bad, right, I think what they're changing 311 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: and this is all new creators and we know that 312 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: George rr. Martin Is actually has a hand in this. 313 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: He is a part of the producing he has a 314 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: part of the writing, so we see a little more 315 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: and and this is based on the book and that 316 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: he's already published, and obviously it's a little different. And 317 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: to the point that I recently heard that he apparently 318 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: was like he loves this rendition so much that he 319 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: wants to rewrite that book, which I'm sure many of 320 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: the fans are like, please stop. That just finished the 321 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: damn book, which is what I heard repeatedly by many 322 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: of the fans. And that's the thing. It's like, Okay, okay, okay, 323 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: I love fact, I love fantasy. I don't necessarily do 324 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: sci fi or uh, any of that. But when it 325 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: comes to fantasy like Game of Thrones, uh, Lord of 326 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: the Rings, I'm there, Harry Potter, give me that. And 327 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: then we're not going to talk about that in itself. 328 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: But I love that fantasy level. It continues to be 329 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: something that I will watch. But all of these things 330 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: are concerning, like is it watchable? Do we have to 331 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: see these horrid things? Isn't necessary to any of the 332 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: actual plotline? Um, And I think about this and like 333 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: Sansa her wedding Night, that was unnecessary, that wasn't written, 334 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: that did not have to be. There's so many things 335 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: to this that you're like, Okay, let's hope for the best. 336 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: And what I'm seeing in the House of the Dragon, 337 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: it seems to respect that a little more. And I 338 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: say this with something across was still the tension of 339 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: canned women rule. Will a society let women rule in 340 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: this time and age? And I will say there's been 341 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: several directors that I've actually shocked me and I've been 342 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: very pleasantly surprised. One of the episodes had I believe 343 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: um an Indian creator who an Indian director who came 344 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: in and did these amazing things um within the plot line, 345 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: within the direction, and I loved what she did, and 346 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I was like, this is awesome. I'm so excited to 347 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: see the diversity in this conversation instead of the same 348 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: white men which most of the Game of Thrones directing, 349 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, Yeah, and I think that that's 350 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: so important. When we were talking about that, and like 351 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Prevenge movies is like who is doing it and not 352 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: that this is necessarily the exact same thing, but you 353 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: know who who's behind, who was choosing the angles and 354 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: what's included and why I do think there is a 355 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: larger conversation that I'm sure we'll of one day about 356 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: like willful fan the way fandom interacts with things can 357 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: make it a story that wasn't meant to be read 358 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: that way, read in a certain way, um, which is 359 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: can be good or bad. There there pluses and minuses 360 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: to that, but um. And also I will also say 361 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: the caveat of it is hard to watch this for 362 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: me knowing how Game of Thrones didn't. And that's not 363 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: the only one. Everyone has been so critical and unwilling 364 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: to watch this. And actually that viral video of the 365 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Negroni conversation brought in viewers. They were so interested in 366 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: their in Darcy's character. They were excited. So though this 367 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: is what viral videos can give you essentially, But I 368 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: really think it's interesting. Oh and BT dubs, because we've 369 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: talked about intimacy coordinator before, they actually had them on 370 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: step for this show. I don't they had it originally, 371 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, with Amelia talking about her scene 372 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: with Jason Momoa, there was no coordinator and it was 373 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: thank God, caring for her. But in this actual show 374 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: they had them, and they kind of dated them. The woman, 375 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: the young girl who played uh Ellison how Tower in 376 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: the earlier series would had just had just turned eighteen 377 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: for one of the critical scenes, so which only happened once, 378 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: it was still disturbing. I was very disturbed. Um. And 379 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: I immediately looked up police tell me they had coordinators 380 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: and they did. Um. And it is it to me 381 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: as a viewer, maybe to me as a social worker, 382 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I needed to know she was taken 383 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: care of or that scene was going to disturb me 384 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: in such a way. Which again the same scene what 385 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: I was talking about in Game of Thrones, uh, with 386 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: Emelia and Jason Momoa's rapefusly that disturbed me to know 387 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: my there was no one there come on. Yeah, and 388 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: we talked about that in the Intimacy Coordinator episode that 389 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: just as a viewer, it adds value because you're you 390 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: feel better watching it knowing that somebody was there to 391 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: make sure everything was okay, everybody was getting what they 392 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: needed right, um, And kudos to that. Again, there's so 393 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: much The finale is coming, so I'm sure we'll do 394 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: a quick review and seeing how they hang, you know, 395 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: the how it ends, because I do love seeing two 396 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: women three women, honestly, Um, because there's another princess who 397 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: was kind of if you saw the last episode, you 398 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: know she made a powerhouse move which was confusing to 399 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: mania people, but like having that as actual for character, 400 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: like Forefront characters, and they're neither good nor evil, that 401 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: they are all three in the middle, like you don't 402 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: know where they're wavering mm hmm, and you don't know 403 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: the intentions. It's it's really interesting. Yeah, yeah, I and 404 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: I find it fascinating. I don't know. I'm so confused. 405 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: It makes me happy, but I'm like, well, how did 406 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: this take off? I feel like most people I know 407 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: aren't into fantasy, but here we are. We love drama. 408 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure we will return and talk about it. Samantha 409 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: and I will be watching it together. I'm nervous. I'm nervous, 410 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: to be honest, But it'll be fine, aren't we all? Yes? 411 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: Well it cheers? Do you clink? 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