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Our 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:56.360 number two Fantasy best Friends forever. Fantasy Sports Radio Network 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.560 is live with you. I am Gregg Sousman, joined by 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:04.360 Frank's Staffle the Closer talking about closers, Chris Ventral Well, Chris, 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.119 what up? What up? What? How's everybody doing? Close to day? 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.840 It's only fitting the closes the voice doing. How does 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.880 everything feel better? Much better? Yes? A lot of soup, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.880 a lot of teas. I'm just waiting for the wind. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.520 That all the man, That's what we're talking about yesterday. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.160 We all are, but not not just gonna get blasted 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.880 by like another snowstorm though for sure. Yeah not just 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.039 Joined by the closer. Though. We're also joined by our 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.800 guy from Fan Duels, my buddy Jim Sons. What's up, Jim? 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.880 It's all good, Greg. You know we're talking relievers today. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:40.880 I struggle with relievers in season long. I'm here to 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.000 listen to you guys too. I want to get your 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.480 insights to make sure I'm on the right path this year. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.040 So this is as much a learning experience for me 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.240 too as it is a fund to shares insights with 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.640 the two. Right. I'm with you. Well, I think we're 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.920 all in this. I don't think it's just learning experience 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.640 for everyone. It's not just you, Chris. I I hope 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.840 you guys aren't just looking my way because I'm not. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.280 I have my own looking around to Chris, you decide 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.800 how much you're selling your rankings for yet? Oh did 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.000 I decide how much? No? I have not, because I 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.240 I had told our audience that I am uh my 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:14.079 rankings for what Penny lessons. We'll see I'm undercutting the market. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:19.200 But marketing will see what happened, right, all right, So 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.480 let's let's kind of get back to where we were, guys, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.520 and I'm gonna ask you. I asked Frank a moment ago, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.480 jam I'm gonna ask you, and then I'll ask you too. Chris, 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.079 rank these three guys for me, Brad Hand, Felippe Vasquez, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:34.920 and Roberto Osuna. So I have Roberto Suna first on 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.160 that list by a pretty decent margin. I really don't 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.040 like saying positive things about him, giving all the stuff 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.080 that went down last year, But when you look at 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.280 him as a fantasy asset, the situation is so good 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.000 with that team. It seems like he's pretty locked in 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.240 as being there closer. And last year, you know, the 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.840 numbers were not great, but you get back to seventeen, 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.720 he had a thirty three percent strike out right, a 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.000 four percent walk rate. His swinging spranker was sixteen point 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.680 eight percent. And when I look at those numbers and 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.160 you put them in a pitcher's park on a team 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.760 that is as good as the Astros are projected to 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.400 be once again, even with you, if you assume the 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.160 starting pitching takes a step back or which I do, 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.280 I still put a Zuna first. So for me it's 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.320 as a first I do put Brad Hands second. I 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.560 think the skills are very good, thirty five strike ever 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.400 right for him, I expect Cleveland to take a step 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.400 back this year as well, given the fact that you know, 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.400 they don't care something about their their outfield. But the 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.280 pitching is still very good. The starting pitching is still 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.560 very good. They're still gonna get wins. So I ranked 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.480 those three, Oh, Zuna and then Hand and then Vasquez 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:45.120 is third, largely because of team strength. Well, it's it's interesting, 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.840 actually bring anything and Lely you Chris, you write those 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:52.560 three guests. So it's close, right, Um, yeah, it's close. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.760 I would say as soon as well. Houston. You know 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.400 that's a big deal to me. I think he holds 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.080 down that job the whole year. He's still a young guys, 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.200 twenty four years old. Uh, he's got the stuff. I 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.520 didn't have the greatest year, but listen, I think he'll 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.040 the strikeout rate will go up with Houston. He'll get 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.560 a lot of opportunities in Houston, I think as well. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:12.880 I just like the sooner, the best out of these 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.400 to hold down his job for the whole year. I 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.680 like Hand as well. I think I'm gonna go though 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:24.520 with Um. I think I'm gonna go with Vasquez Overhand them. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.480 I think I would take baskets overhand, just because I know, 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.279 you know, he has a little bit more of a 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.640 pedigree for me, and I think that, you know, he'll 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.839 continue to hold down his job as well in Pittsburgh 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:35.359 and listening. Even though they're a bit they're not a 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.320 great team Pittsburgh, I think, listen, bad teams often give 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.039 you the most save opportunities. I know one year, the 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.040 Miami Mallins had like the most save opportunities and uh 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.440 A j Ramos benefited from it. And I had one 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.599 of the most you know, top three and saves the 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.160 Mets when um it's his familiity and the Mets didn't 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:53.800 have a good year. He had like eighty you know, 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.640 like crazy amount of saves that year. Um So I think, 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.040 you know, he could definitely get the save opportunities in Pittsburgh. Now, 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.599 it's it's interesting past three of different people, you might 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.480 get three different answers here. Greg asked, is that what 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.360 is that? What's happening? Continue? What do you got? Frank? 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.000 How do you have that? That wasn't my ploy? Just 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.320 I haven't I have Brad Hand, Philippe Vasquez, Roberto listen 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:24.920 to six and the issue for me for Roberto as 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.640 soon as the fact that he's he's had like mental 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.120 lapses on the mound and stuff like, I don't not 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:33.719 just on the mound, I don't know how he's gonna 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.440 like handle the pressure of like pitching for a contender, 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.279 and like they have pretty good people behind him. You know, Jim, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:40.800 I know that you're a Twins fan, so you've seen 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.839 Ryan Pressley up close, and he's amazing there in that bullpen. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.440 I mean, once he came over to Houston last year. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.400 I mean, he had a one e r A last year, 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.480 and you know, they add and of course, as Houston does, 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.200 they take Ryan Pressley, they tell him start throwing more slider, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.880 start throwing more Curdi balls. He starts strowing more breaking stuff, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.520 and he turns into an elite reliever, like they do 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.520 with any anyone that the Astros get their hands on, 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.400 just turns into an elite picture. I still think Roberto 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.600 Soon is very good. He doesn't offer the same strikeouts 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.760 upside upside of some of these guys. I mean, last 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:14.000 seares below eight strikeouts per nine. Still very good for 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.120 Roberto Sooner, no doubt about it. But I do think 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.720 like whatever thinks he's gone through, like off the field. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.240 On the field, the mental lapses. I don't know if 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.960 he's gonna handle the pressure. Hector Rondon is there as well. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.919 Um to me, it just feels like brad Hand and 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.920 Felipe A Baskets. Maybe the job security is a little 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.839 bit more safe. I can't really argue. I mean, he 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.880 might have the most upside though, pitching for the Astros, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.600 which is the best team of this bomb. So that 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.320 kind of sounds like where Jim and Chris's heads were at, Like, hey, 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.680 he's playing for the Astros. He's still very very young, 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.080 and I want the chance the most saved. I mean, 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.479 hands on Cleveland, where are you gonna have a lot 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.520 of opportunities as well? Actually just games? And there's there's 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.720 no more inan miller there, Like I can't tress that enough. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.800 There's no one here to really press brad Hand. But 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.479 so here's we're on that. Here, care's we're on that 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.160 with And you actually pointed this out, Christ, like when 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.359 Jerry's familia did what he did the Mets, that's weren't 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.000 like winning ninety games right like that that wasn't a thing. 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:10.640 So wins and great teams aren't necessarily the perfect indicator 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.880 for getting the most saved, so I don't necessarily want 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.040 to use that. And I said this to you. I 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.520 think he was on the air, Frank, but like I 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.640 said this to you yesterday, and that a guy like 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.040 Roberto assud On, My only issue with him on the 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.040 Astros is kind of you just brought up with Ryan Presley. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.880 We have seen so many guys come out for the 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.960 Astros and be successful, and Ken Giles was the closer 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.400 until he wasn't and even when he was pitching, well, 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:41.040 Hector Rondo, Aldo, Brad Peacocks got a shot, Kristevinsky got 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.680 a shot. There's a lot of names in that Astros, 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.400 and I'm just a little bit nervous that if Roberto 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.640 Studo falters even a little bit, they're just not going 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.360 hesitant to go in a different direction. When I looked 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.840 to Cleveland, Brad hand is by himself. When I looked 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:01.200 at Pittsburgh, no Felippe A. Basquez is by himself. Like 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.800 Vaska's struggled last year at times before he ultimately turned 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.520 it around, like he really struggled, and they just stuck 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.320 with him because like, listen, this is the guy's our 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.680 best option. And he was and he wound up having 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.600 a really good season. To me, Oh, Soona is last 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.360 on this list. I'll go with Vasquez because he's been 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.040 really successful for Pittsburgh for a couple of years now. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.920 So I have Vaska's first. I have hands second because 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.200 I trust him with this job. I trust his ability. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.240 As Frankie mentioned, they gave up a top prospect for 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.480 this guy, and there's nobody else in this Bullpend I 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.200 believe will be the closer. So for me, it's very easy. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.680 Vasquez hand in the no soon not worried about John Edwards. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.360 I believe he was already he had a kid out 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.880 of wedlock. When he's running for president in North Carolina. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.400 I will say, I'm sure you do not get reference. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:46.840 I have no idea. That's why I'm just gonna keep 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:51.800 moving on here. I like I like Greg's point. I mean, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.599 you don't e be on a good team to be 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.720 a good clare don't. Yeah, And that's why he's gonna 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.360 play close games these terrible teams. Diego, I still have 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.640 Felipe Vaska is ranked ahead of Osuna just because for 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.720 what you mentioned, Greg, I mean, they stuck with him 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.120 last year. I will say this, I have him behind 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.400 Brad Hand because I do think that there's a better 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.720 next man up in Pittsburgh than there is in Cleveland. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.560 They went out and they acquired Keona Keller last year, 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.440 and Keona Kelly is kind of a name we've been 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.199 talking about for years. We thought he was gonna be 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.400 like the Rangers closer for years, frankly, and it has 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.760 never really happened. But I do think that he is 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.520 more talented than some of the guys behind brad Hand. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.160 So that's why I pushed felipe A. Vaskis down the board. 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.360 I guess at this point, I'm just ranking based on 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.960 like job security, and I think brad Hands job is 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.800 the safest. That's probably the best way to do it. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.040 So I think if you want to do one counter 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.440 argument to brad Hand and the strength of the other 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.160 guys in the bullpen is that Cleveland last year had 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.440 a lot of issues holding leads down. And it wasn't 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.160 just Cody Allen, it was the rest of their bullpen too, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.120 And if you don't get to that ninth inning with 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.720 the lead, you're not getting a save op. So I 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.120 think that that could actually it is a positive for 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.760 brad Hand that there's no competition, but it could also 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.640 lead to fewer save opportunities if the guys before him 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.079 are blowing those chances that saves. And I think that 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.440 when you look at Houston, that's not gonna happen because 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.360 Ryan Pressley, as you mentioned, is dirty and he's really good. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.360 And the Houston the thing that I love about them 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.520 is that they're a very smart organization. They understand when 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.640 to use guys like Ryan Pressley, bring him out there 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.160 in the highest leverage spots, keep that lead and then 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:23.760 get it to us soonest. So I think that that 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.320 when I when you think about it in that from 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.720 that perspective, it makes me feel better about us soona 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.480 and a tiny bit worse about Hands. But I think 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.120 that the job security angle is a good reason to 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.800 potentially have Oh it's been a lower than where I 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.520 have in which is is higher potentially than it should be. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.640 For sure, is there anybody else guys that you have 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:49.160 in this tier with these guys? So for me, the 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.760 next few that I have in here, Hervey Yates, Sean Doolittle, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.000 jose La Clark, and I as Rice Sell Glacia is 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.480 here too. That's the start of a new tier for 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.240 me just because I think the combination of the relievers 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:07.040 we've already talked about here with Vasquez and and the 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.440 combination of what they've already done, what we've seen them do, 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.920 their job security, their talent level. I think it's all 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.280 better than those other names that we're gonna talk about. Okay, 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.280 and and that's fine, let's let's start off the next 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:18.880 I do have Josh Hater in that tire, but it's 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.880 like what you do, we'll get to Hater. So if 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:27.280 the next tier is Yates La Clerk Iglesias, how would 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.840 you rank those crest Yates order. Yeah, I might even 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.439 put Yates, Oh boy, oh boys should go right into 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.000 the next tier too. Does in them too? I mean, 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.800 like Yates proved last year that, like I meant, hit 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.840 sixty three innings, didn't really want seventeen walks, not a 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.320 lot of walk, nineties, strike at six, like everything you 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.719 want to see to one four r a not done 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.760 across the board basically point nine two whip. Like I 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.920 think in San Diego is a great place to get 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.520 saved because they always play close games, you know what 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.080 I mean. I mean this is a little bit bolstered 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.640 of age now Machado and everything else. But that should 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.320 only make him a little bit more competitive. It means 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.280 they should be in a lot of games and they 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:05.960 should be saved out the two days. I think Kirby 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.160 Yates should top this list, at least in this tier, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.760 or maybe even be at the end of that that 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.840 tier we were talking about with soon a hand and U, 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.960 how do you rank of Jim? I had the same 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:20.200 order Yates the clerk, and then uh and then Iglazias last. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.000 I think they were the Yates. It's pretty easy to 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.480 me to put him first. And I think like if 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.760 I were putting a tier on it, I think I'd 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.400 have Yates a tier above the other two guys too, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.440 just because he's been He's been really good for a 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.599 long time now. Two point two six skill interactive r 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:39.440 A last year strikeout rates, seven percent, walk rate, and 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.320 he keeps the ball on the ground a bit, gets 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.559 a lot of swings and misses. And I agree that 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.040 the strength of San Diego this year will be better 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.800 than it has been years past. Like they kind of 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.120 have an issue with playing time, like they have too 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.240 many guys who need to play, and that's like a 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.559 good issue to have, and especially when you look at 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.640 the potential progression of the young guys too, this is 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.160 not a bad offense. They're going to get leads. They 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.400 have some mildly competent starting pitching. I guess you could 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.520 say I do like Joela CAZy Chris Paddock. Once he 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.240 gets up there should be pretty good too. So like 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.680 they're not a bad team. And when you give me 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.680 someone who is on a not bad team, who is 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.360 as good as Curby Yates, I'm going to take him 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.320 about the rest every single time. I hate La Clerk's 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.880 team with a pretty fervent passion. Iglesias not gonna get 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.960 every save ops. So I think for me it's pretty 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.719 easily Curby Yates of those three. Yeah, I have a 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.720 reliever ranked above these guys that we haven't mentioned, hitter. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.840 I have Sean Doolittle as my tenth closure. So I 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.079 have my head of Curby Yates. And I can't disagree 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:41.800 with anything that you guys have said about Yates. You know, 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.839 I do think in terms of his talent, his swinging, missibility, 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.000 his strikeouts, he's I mean, he's up there with the 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.280 rest of these guys, And you know, for me, I 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.880 have the next man up for the padres as Craig 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.640 Stammon and Jose Castillo. So I'm not really worried about 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.559 job security when it comes to Curby Yates either. I 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.680 don't think that Andy Green has committed to him yet 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.360 definitely as the closer, but where else are they gonna go? 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.760 I think he's just the most He's the most talented 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.000 reliever in that pen. And you know, once they drafted 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.480 Brad Hand, they did go to him last year, uh 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.440 four save opportunities. So I trust Curby Yates. It's just 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.200 I like Sean Dooittle as long as Craig Kimberal is 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.360 not signing with the Nationals, I like him a little 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.400 bit more. I think the peripherals are a little bit better. 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.320 He just needs to stay healthy like Nassive nassive point 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.400 six zero or a last year from doing it. But 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.320 I'm not questioning doolittle talent. I'm questioned his ability to 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.120 stay still had at least twenty four saves and needs 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.720 of the past two years. Sure, great little pedigree also 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.000 wiries me a little bit too, what's up in years past? 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.800 He he hasn't been this good, nearly this good? Well, yeah, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.040 he was really good, really good he was, he was 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.160 solid twenty seventeen, he wasn't what he did like five 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.920 in one hits sixt k like, I mean, he literally 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.200 was lights out last year. I don't think you're gonna 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.080 get that again over each of the past three years. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.240 I am not question is not a question for not 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.200 even remotely a questions John Doolitt. It is his ability 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.960 to stay healthy. Yeah, I think I understand that, But 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.600 I mean, the Nationals are also gonna be the best 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.320 team that we've talked about of this group with the Padres, 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.160 the Reds. And though you know, it might sound a 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.520 little hypocritically here because some people, you know, some people 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.240 are making the argument, well, you know, if a team 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.400 is not you know, if they're not so good, they're 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.520 going to be in closer games. But it's also it 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.280 also helps when you have a team that is going 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.200 to be in more positions to just ultimately win more games. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.000 We're you know, we're expecting the Nationals to win at 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.760 least what you know, eight plus games this year, which look, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.480 they're just gonna be a better team than the teams 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.640 that we're talking about here. So Jimmy wants to do 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.240 a little over over these guys in here. So I 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.880 have Sean Doolittle above Brad Hand and Felipe Vasquez like 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.520 I have him like above both those guys. He is 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.760 behind the guys that talked about so far, he's behind, 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.760 only it was sooner for me because I think almost 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.200 two a fault. I don't worry as much about health 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.280 because past health is not necessarily indicator of future health, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.080 and you know it maybe is a higher injury risk 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.200 than others, but any picture can get hurt, especially a reliever, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.200 at any time, So I don't want to overcorrect for 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.920 health in my rankings and overlook a guy who last 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.240 year had a one point nine five Sierra thirty seven 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.560 percent strikeout rate, four percent walk grade. I agree with 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.840 what Frank said about the Craig Kimberl thing because I 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.760 saw that blur pop up on on Rhodo World and 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.000 my skin got all itchy because I was really scared 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.040 once I saw that, because I do like Sean Doolittle 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.560 a lot, and that would be the one downfall here. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.960 But I think unless that happens, Sean Doolittle will be 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.280 probably my the reliever I have on the highest percentage 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.160 of my leads this year. Right. If you have to 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.640 guess Sean Doolittle's whip last year, what would you say 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.080 one point one? What would you say that? Negative seven? 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.040 We'll just say it was his whip like pointn F 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:59.080 zero point six zero elite And that's why I put 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.520 him in three of eer A with strikeouts and as 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.000 long as he says healthy. The Clark is the worst 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.640 of the tier because of the world walk right too, 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.600 very high walk rate. When we come back, we'll talk 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.119 about jose La Clark, who's got a contract extension, and 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.000 we'll also talk about Rice Siler Glaziers. I want to 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.600 ask Jim Sonnas a question about that. Jim's with us 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.760 for the next hour, as is the Closer Chris Venture. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.080 We continue on trying to tear this all apart when 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:31.359 we come back on the Fantasy Best Friends Forever. 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