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Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed.

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Speaker 2: It's spooky and joky.

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Speaker 3: I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Hey, I've ghost said.

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Speaker 3: I'm Nandaz Collease, hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to Ghosted,

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Speaker 3: but Raz Hernandez. I'd like to talk to people that

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Speaker 3: I like about things that make me go eek. Today

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be doing that with Scotti Landis and

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Speaker 3: Kurt Braunoler. You may know from the podcast Bananas here

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Speaker 3: unexactly right, I've been on Bananas. Go back and listen

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Speaker 3: to it. We had a great old time. Before we

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Speaker 3: get into that, two things. First thing, I feel like

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Speaker 3: I should reiterate this dolls that we talk about on

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Speaker 3: the show sometimes if we're like super duper talking about

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Speaker 3: visual elements. I post those on the Instagram for this podcast,

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Speaker 3: which is at Ghosted by ros I post it in

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Speaker 3: the pinned stories, So you just go to the page.

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Speaker 3: You'll see a little circle that says dolls at a

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Speaker 3: little circle that says stuff or something like that, and

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Speaker 3: that's where you can find those. So if you listen

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Speaker 3: to these in the future or something, they'll be up there.

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Speaker 3: You'll still be able to see them. People are constantly like,

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Speaker 3: I want to see the doll, and I'm like, that's

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Speaker 3: where it's there. Our promise, just click where it says dolls.

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Speaker 3: The other thing, I wanted to tell you a story

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Speaker 3: that I found in my email which is ghosted by

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Speaker 3: Carly Ray. Carly Ray has a story from this past

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Speaker 3: Mother's Day. Carly Ray writes, it was Mother's Day. We

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Speaker 3: had just had dinner and drinks with my mom and

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Speaker 3: came back home to have a camp fire. For context,

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Speaker 3: I'm thirty eight years old, but my mom is my

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Speaker 3: landlord slashed downstairs neighbor, and there is a central fire

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Speaker 3: right in front of her apartment. Anyway, my boyfriend, brother

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Speaker 3: friend Tony, and myself were all drinking by the fire.

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Speaker 3: My mom went in to go to bed a little

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Speaker 3: while earlier. I glanced up as I saw movement and

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Speaker 3: why are you acting so creepy? What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I figured she was mad at us for being loud

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Speaker 3: and assuming she stormed off or something angry, I knock

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Speaker 3: then that I looked at her outfit and realized that

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Speaker 3: I must have had like way too much to drink.

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Speaker 3: After trying to debunk this experience all week, we have

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Speaker 3: everything rationally, he chimes in and he says, oh, my god,

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Speaker 3: I thought that was your mom.

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Speaker 2: I saw her.

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Speaker 3: She was wearing a white nightgown peering out at us

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Speaker 3: for a creepy amount of time. He said. The reason

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Speaker 3: We ended up recreating all the conditions, lighting, clothing, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: The figure was like eliminated from within, but not glowing,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Carly Ray from Wisconsin, thank you for

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Speaker 3: sending that. I don't even know what to make of that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it does sound like one of my favorite things,

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Speaker 3: sort of like an astral projection, Like was it a

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Speaker 3: very eighteen hundreds ghost.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If anything else happens, be sure to let us know.

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Speaker 3: Carla Ray, all right, it's time for me to talk

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Speaker 3: to Scotti Landis and Kurt Brownholer and with the show.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I am joined by some of my

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Speaker 3: new family members at exactly right. Please welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Kurt Brownholmer and Scottie Landis.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Oh my gosh, thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: So happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: I am so happy to have both of you guys,

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Speaker 3: and I am a fan of both of your works.

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Speaker 3: I've already told Scotty how much the movie Ma Means

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Speaker 3: to Be, which I think is just one of the

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Speaker 3: most brilliant films. Well, I just love it to death.

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Speaker 3: I actually the line, don't make me drink alone. I

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Speaker 3: don't drink I'm eight years sober. But every time I

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Speaker 3: have a friend over and I offer a Lacroix and

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Speaker 3: they don't take one, I always go down. Make me

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. Kurtz, Curti B.

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Speaker 3: Is it Curti B and Scottie the Stallion?

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Speaker 2: Is that? What say? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Yes, We're built very similarly to those two, same body type,

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Speaker 3: I completely forgot that you have an appearance in Barbarian Yes,

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Speaker 3: which is another brilliant horror film of the past few years,

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Speaker 3: this horror renaissance comedy like there's this is an exciting

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really started.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like with like Jordan peele as everybody knows

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Speaker 4: the best part is classically, like comedic writers were very

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Speaker 2: So it's a fun time.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a very similar muscle. You know, in

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Speaker 1: both comedy and in horror, you're just like manipulating expectations

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And in comedy it's a surprise it causes you to laugh,

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Speaker 1: and in horror it's a surprise it caused you to jump.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's involuntary, like the reaction. Yes, if it's good,

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Speaker 4: Hiding h When I saw Midsummer I laughed so much

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Speaker 4: I actually apologized to the theater. I was like, I'm

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Speaker 3: It's out of fear. Though it's not like laughing at it.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's my favorite genre to watch, but I

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Speaker 4: just there's something about that surprise that feels like a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's almost like a oh you motherfucker, you

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to know how you guys feel about

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Speaker 3: the pair of Normal.

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan you.

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Speaker 3: Are, Okay, So, like, broadly speaking, where are you guys

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Speaker 3: at when it comes to the unknown For a.

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Speaker 1: Person who has had no like I've never seen a

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Speaker 3: How'd you get in here?

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Speaker 1: It's shocking because I would love to because I do

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Speaker 1: like we've had spooky situations, We've had like weird eerie things,

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Speaker 4: When I was a teenager, I you know, thought I

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Speaker 4: I would love if Bigfoot just walked out of the

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Speaker 1: And when you say paranormal, are we talking to aliens.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk at all. Aliens, psychics, ghosts, Bigfoot, all of that.

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Speaker 4: When I moved to a lay, many of my closest

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Speaker 4: and saw psychics. But there's a place in Echo Park,

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Speaker 4: Ont House of Intuition that's up these really long stairs.

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, And I saw so many of my friends

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Speaker 2: To all of it.

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Speaker 2: You gotta believe it something, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 3: So do you have any kinds of stories? Maybe we

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Speaker 4: When we were doing our podcast Bananas, my New Year's

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Speaker 4: resolution for the year twenty twenty two was to see

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Speaker 2: It was yes.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm going to set out to see

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Speaker 4: a ghost. So I stayed in a lot of haunted hotels.

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Speaker 4: Wait what I visited haunted places?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me the whole everywhere you went.

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Speaker 4: So there's one called the Lodge in cloud Croft, New Mexico,

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Speaker 4: where there is a ghost named Rebecca. It was a

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Speaker 3: it was never a question. So to me, that kind

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Speaker 4: Yes, he would hold like the super Eucharist and like

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what's funny. Not that long ago, out

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't have the powers to turn this into Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm looking it up now you can absolutely get them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you can get the Vegfest Bread of Life Alter

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Speaker 3: You could put chocolate on it. You could do it savory.

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Speaker 3: Just well to be fair like back then, he was

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Speaker 3: But anyway, okay, wait, I'm going to go back to you,

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Speaker 4: I didn't end up staying we I was working on

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Speaker 2: It's called bad Ideas. It was on Quibi now it's

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Speaker 4: We were going to do the inherent worst idea you

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And then some of it was full time cheap affordable housing.

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Speaker 4: So like the first two you can like rent if

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Speaker 4: It's something close to that. We could look it up,

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Speaker 4: So I asked this custodian who is probably like sixty,

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Speaker 4: Do you ever see demon's ghosts? And he looked at

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Speaker 2: Every day? He goes every day I see something? What?

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Speaker 3: I've only been in it one time. I kind of

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know, they put in new restaurants and stuff

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Speaker 2: It's a strange part of the city. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I used to do all kinds of just different gigs

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Speaker 4: They're old buildings. They're like over one hundred years old,

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Speaker 3: Cut to people in Europe, they're like one hundred years old. Okay,

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Speaker 4: to in that calendar year and didn't see anything. But

443
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 4: Kurt and I, one of our best friends, got married

444
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: at the Stanley Inn in ST's Park, Colorado, which you

445
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: knows iconically haunted.

446
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: The inspiration for the Shining.

447
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 4: That's right, And so the most haunted room is two seventeen.

448
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 4: When we got checked in, I was dating a woman

449
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 4: at the time, and she's like, very scared of that stuff,

450
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: and she said, what room was it?

451
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: In it? And we were in two nineteen, so we

452
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: were directly next door to that room, but I didn't

453
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: want to tell her, and I was like, oh, I

454
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: don't know. I think it's on the third floor.

455
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 4: And then they have a channel that plays the Shining

456
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 4: twenty four hours a day without commercials, NonStop, and so

457
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 4: she turned it on and saw immediately that was twenty seventeen.

458
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: She's like, you asshole, and so we switch wings.

459
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 3: Ah.

460
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: So I've never seen a ghost, but the only time

461
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 4: I've ever had something that was very strange was the

462
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 4: wedding's happening. It's a great reception in the hotel. Kurt

463
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: was wearing a kilt, okay, and so the whole time

464
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 4: you're there, even when there's a wedding going on, I

465
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: guess they probably stopped around then.

466
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: But they give ghost tours, they give haunted.

467
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: Tours of that hotel to tourists probably every hour or

468
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 4: two all day long, so we all kind of knew

469
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 4: it was haunted or whatever. But in the main lobby,

470
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 4: if you want to go to use the restrooms, you

471
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: have to go down this huge staircase that goes down

472
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 4: in the middle and then up on the sides. I

473
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: was walking down the stairs mid reception, was not loaded,

474
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: you know, wasn't drunk or anything. And when I was

475
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: walking down the stairs, I just heard a voice so

476
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: simply go hey. And I turned and I was standing

477
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: in the middle of the staircase by myself, and I

478
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 4: just smiled.

479
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: I was so happy.

480
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: It was like the only time I've ever had a brush.

481
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 4: But it was just like if I walked up behind

482
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 4: you on an elevator and just went hey.

483
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: Like it was that close.

484
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: I thought it was one of our friends just being like, hey, Scottie,

485
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 4: where you're headed.

486
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: It was so casual.

487
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 4: And I looked around and there was nobody coming up down,

488
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: nobody in the lobby, and I just went down to

489
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: the bathroom and I was like, I think that was it.

490
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: I think that was what that feels like. It was great.

491
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: So that's when I started to really be like I

492
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: kind of leaving everything. It was very strange, damn very

493
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: casual though, like hey, I didn't respond, but I was happy.

494
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is this.

495
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: But after that happens, you have to sleep in that building.

496
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: That doesn't affect your ability to sleep there.

497
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: So that night we pass out and in the middle

498
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: of the night, I hear like men yelling, and I'm

499
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: already kind of a little wired because of that experience,

500
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 4: and so I go over and look out the window.

501
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 4: I thought it was like a bunch of the wedding

502
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: people hanging out by the pool, you know, keep drinking

503
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: or doing drugs or whatever.

504
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: Nobody's out there. It's just pitch black. I'm like, oh

505
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: my god, this is it. This place is haunted.

506
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: There's like screaming happening outside of this hotel or in

507
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 4: this hotel. So I'm the first up in the morning.

508
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: I go down, I get a bloody Marry. I'm sitting there,

509
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: I'm talking the bartender, and a comedian comes in and

510
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 4: sits down.

511
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: I was like, did you hear yelling all night in

512
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: the hotel?

513
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: No?

514
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: And our tender goes, what did it sound like? I

515
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 4: was like, what sounded kind of like and he goes, oh, yeah,

516
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 4: those are the elk. The elk are rutting. When the

517
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 4: male elks come basically they go oh, oh.

518
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: Gosh, so we're cutting that part out of this. We're

519
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: not keeping that part.

520
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Fine with me.

521
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: It is a crazy noise. It is a crazy noise.

522
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: Because the very next day Scotty left and we all

523
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: took mushrooms and went into this National park and like

524
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: hiked up to this like Alpine Lake, and as we

525
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: were coming back down, we knew it was like elk

526
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: rutting season and you have to be like careful because

527
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: when they're like mating, they get aggressive. And then we

528
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: come down and like we're all tripping and then it's

529
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: just two well in the middle of like a big

530
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: field and we're like maybe thirty five feet away from them.

531
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: And they're such big animals.

532
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: Huge.

533
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: We were talking about this recently and I said one

534
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: of them was sixteen feet tall. And it's not sixteen

535
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: feet tall, probably not, but it's like nine feet tall,

536
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? With the antlers?

537
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and they are just like.

538
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: Like it sounds like screaming. It's so crazy.

539
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, were they getting freaky deegy.

540
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: That's right.

541
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: They don't have to be necessarily orgasming. They make it

542
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: also to like attract each other, so that one was

543
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: just making it.

544
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, So then the lady elks are like,

545
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: oh my god, his.

546
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: Sounds hot is so hot.

547
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: It was weird to hear. I do think something said

548
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 2: hello to me or hey, it was very strange.

549
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 3: I'm buying it. I mean, if you look around, there's

550
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: no one there, so I'm meanto ghost hunting, and a

551
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: really cool thing has come out of there. In the

552
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: world of ghost hunting, a lot of techniques have been

553
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: around for forever and then like sometimes there's a new one. Nowadays,

554
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: it's like what could even be real because of the

555
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: way that everyone can reproduce things on their phone and

556
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: everything seems so fake and whatever. But there was this

557
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: technique that was developed there by these three ghost hunters

558
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 3: Connor J. Randall, Michelle Tait, and Carl Feiffert shout out.

559
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: They figured out this way. It's called the Estes method. Okay,

560
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: there's a device called a spirit box that basically scans

561
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: radio frequencies and you know, so people will ask a

562
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: question like what's your name? And then you'll hear like

563
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: it depends on what kind of speed you want to

564
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: put it out, but it'll be like Sarah, because it'll

565
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: kind of pick up from a radio station or whatever.

566
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: So whatever could easily be debunked. But what they decided

567
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: to do. One person plugs that into noise canceling headphones

568
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: and blindfolds themselves like sensory deprivation, Oh my gosh. And

569
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: then another person will be like, what's your name? And

570
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: then they just say what they hear out loud. They'll

571
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: be like Sarah, like whatever, so they'll start saying things.

572
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: And sometimes people will do this and they have like

573
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: full on conversations between each other. I've done it a

574
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: few times. I think it's legit. Every time I've done

575
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: it before, I'm like, this seems real. I don't know

576
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: how else to describe it.

577
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: What does the spirit box do?

578
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: It?

579
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: Just like scans.

580
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: It's basically like if you're just like changing dials like

581
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: real quick on like a radio, and so sometimes you'll

582
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: hear something like Coca cola from like a commercial or something,

583
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: or like you'll just like hear things, but when it

584
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: lines up, you know I've done it before. Where you're

585
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: like what's your name? And then it's like Sarah, and

586
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: then it's like how'd you die? And then all of

587
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: a sudden it'll be like I foul. It's very strange.

588
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I like that.

589
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: It's cool.

590
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: But it all came out of there from them doing

591
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: investigations at that hotel.

592
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful hotel.

593
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: What's fascinating is like the guy who created the hotel,

594
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: he was an inventor and he was famous for something

595
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: called the Stanley Steamer.

596
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: Wait, that was Stanley Steamer. Yeah, the Stanley seaberg gets

597
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: a carp is cleaner.

598
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: No, so they took that name later. But the original

599
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: Stanley Steamer was a competitor with the model t Ford

600
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: the combustion engine, So instead of a combustion engine, it

601
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: actually was a steam engine driven car. And so they

602
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: have one in the lobby where you can like look

603
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: at it and it's just like, oh, this could have

604
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: been the way that we went forward, but nope, nothing

605
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: happened with it just died there.

606
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: Now the ghost of it lurks around the lobby. Okay,

607
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: other stories, anybody.

608
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I have a place near where I grew up in

609
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: New Jersey. That's legendary, very Haunted Road. The name of

610
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: it is Essex Road in Tinton Falls, New Jersey, but

611
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: everybody called it Albino Road. And it was just like

612
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: out on the edge of town, past some soccer fields

613
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: near the printing press for the Asbury Park Press where

614
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: they like printed the newspaper for that area. And it

615
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: was just a very creepy feeling road. You could go

616
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: down that road at like noon on a hot summer

617
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: day and there was just something creepy about it. But

618
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: what you actually would do was go down it at night,

619
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: and when you drive on to it, there was a

620
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: route that you would take. And this is just like

621
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: it's a road that like kind of curves. It's always curving,

622
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: and it goes through some like wetlands area. There's no

623
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: reason for the road. It doesn't really connect any two things,

624
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: just like.

625
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 3: A one way one lane kind of a thing.

626
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: It's two lanes, you can go both ways, but like

627
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: the correct way to like get freaked out was to

628
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: drive it this way because you would enter. And then

629
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: the whole story was these teenagers had been killed on

630
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: the road and there and and the police outlines of

631
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: their bodies no matter how many times they get painted

632
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: over would reappear cool at like midnight or something, and

633
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: so on the ground was like multiple body outlines, but

634
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: they were but they were done hastily by children who

635
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: didn't want to get hit by cars, so they were

636
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: like always done like just a little bit wide. They

637
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: didn't want to get like spray paint on somebody's shirt

638
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: or something. So it was these outlines that were like people,

639
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: like very bloated, alien like people. And then I remember

640
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: they get painted over and somebody would always put them back,

641
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: which I really appreciated. The last time I saw it,

642
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: which was still you know, I don't know how many

643
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: decades ago, someone had added a dog, which I thought

644
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: was just like what a beautiful touch, like the police

645
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: would put.

646
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: An outlined around the dog.

647
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: It was a meme or it was like an idea,

648
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: like it was a viral idea, pre internet totally, so

649
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: like what people had been doing since the seventies. I

650
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: believe there would be a line on the ground that

651
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: said start here, turn lights off. Oh fun, and it

652
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: was all spray painted in and so you're supposed to

653
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: go at midnight and stop at that line and then

654
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: turn your lights off and then drive the whole length

655
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: of the road with your lights off. The final moment

656
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: was that you were supposed to drive up towards It's

657
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: like what looked like an abandoned house, sure in the

658
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: middle of the woods, but it actually had people living

659
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: in it, and they were just an older couple who

660
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: just wanted to be left alone so that they would

661
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: like chase people who like drove up their driveway because

662
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: it just happened every other night. So obviously the more

663
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: they chase people, the more stories, you know, all that

664
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, but none of them all like kind

665
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: of made sense together.

666
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: That's a really good one because the fact that people

667
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: can keep, the fact there's interaction with it makes it

668
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: so much more interesting because they can paint it black

669
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: or they can put asphalt over it, whatever, and then

670
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 4: you know, somebody or multiple somebodys are gonna be like,

671
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna go paint those bodies again. It's fun that

672
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: it's like living history.

673
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tradition.

674
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that.

675
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: The collectiveness of it is so beautiful.

676
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: I think there's a philosophy that I'm really obsessed with it.

677
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: In the paranormal where a lot of times these places

678
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: because yeah, like all towns have these urban legendy kind

679
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: of things, and there's this idea that has a couple

680
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 3: of different names, like one of them being thought form,

681
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: where if enough people are putting this energy into this

682
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: thing being real, it can manifest.

683
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: Yes.

684
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there have been some experiments where no one

685
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: died in this location, but they manifested a ghost in

686
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: this location. Kind of.

687
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

688
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: It's some kind of far out there stuff, but I

689
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: think it could be real.

690
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's no more out there than the Secret

691
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: the twenty million totally sold book of the United States.

692
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: Totally. It's all wrapped up in the same thing, which

693
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: I think in some ways it can be like prayer,

694
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: like it's all connected, it's all the same.

695
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like what you're talking about.

696
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: That's a cool idea that, like, if we all believe

697
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: in something enough and we all and we just repeat

698
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: the story enough that that thing can manifest itself, is great.

699
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

700
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

701
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: It's like some comedians that aren't funny but enough people

702
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: said they are that now they just like are famous,

703
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: and that happens.

704
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: That happens. Have you ever talked about Vartigers on this podcast?

705
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: You know, I've read about those.

706
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: I don't know a few months ago, and then I

707
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: keep thinking about my childhood and if I ever experienced it,

708
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 4: and I kind of feel like once you tell to people,

709
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: it sort of sticks with them. It's like a Norwegian

710
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: ghost or spirit that's not evil, but basically it is

711
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: the kind of thing that if if you're sitting at

712
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: home and your partner walks in the door and you

713
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 4: kind of see them out of the corner your eye

714
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: go to their room and you hear them put down

715
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 4: their keys or like close the door, all the things

716
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: they sort of do, you can smell them, and then

717
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 4: your actual partner walks in two minutes later.

718
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: It does the exact same thing.

719
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: In Norwegian culture, that's called a vartiger, and they feel

720
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: like it's an energy or a spirit that leads a

721
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: normal person's energy. Is sort of like kind like a

722
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: guardian angel, but it doesn't really do anything. It just

723
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: as kind of tricky.

724
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: Oh.

725
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: I love that idea, and the more I think about it.

726
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: There was two years where I lived at my grandmother's

727
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: farm when I was a kid. I was probably eight

728
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: nine to ten that range, and it was a real

729
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: farm and have garden and all that stuff. The more

730
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: I keep thinking about it. There were so many times

731
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: where I would like, hear the screen door slap shut,

732
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 4: hear somebody walk through the house, Here's something happened in

733
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 4: the kitchen, and then like kind of go to find

734
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: either one of my parents or my grandmother, and they

735
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: would all be all working out in the garden or

736
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 4: sitting on the deck or whatever.

737
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: And then I'd go back and do what I was doing.

738
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: And then my grandmother would come in and do the

739
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: exact same actions in that sequence. This is the only

740
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 4: thing I've ever heard that I was instantly like, wait,

741
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 4: that feels like something they considered a reverse de ja vous,

742
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: Like it's something that happens to you that leads to

743
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: you feeling like something else is about to happen.

744
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: I love that idea also in the fact that like

745
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: if we assume like ghosts or whatever, people not of

746
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: this plane are freed from the bounds of ex experiencing

747
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: time in the same way that we experience time. Like

748
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: preceding something yes makes just as much sense as like

749
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: coming after you know, and like repeating totally the pre

750
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: repeating for them makes as much sense.

751
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds kind of like a doppelganger, you know,

752
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: which is like a ghost that is basically doing some

753
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: Saturday night live impression of somebody else. Right, they got

754
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: the prosthetics, they look just like whoever.

755
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

756
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: But another thing that it kind of sounds like is

757
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: astral projection. And I love those stories too, where it

758
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: seems like your spiritual body can leave your physical body.

759
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: And I've heard very similar stories to what you've described

760
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 3: with that kind of being maybe the theory. I had

761
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: an experience like this that I've told on the show

762
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: before where I was taking a nap and my now

763
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: ex but at the time we were together, he came

764
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: up to me and was like, Hey, I'm going to

765
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 3: the store. Do you want anything? And I was sleeping

766
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: and I was like no, like what I'm sleeping. And

767
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 3: then a couple minutes later he did it again, standing

768
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: in the same area whatever, same exact words, cadence, everything,

769
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: and I was like no, and he was like, okay, God.

770
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: I was like, I said, now you know, I was

771
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: probably like that. And then as soon as I had

772
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: woken up, he comes back from the store. I was like,

773
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: why did you did you do that twice? He's like, no,

774
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: I only did it once. He goes, but I did.

775
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: I thought about doing it, but I didn't want to

776
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: wake you up.

777
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: That's it.

778
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, I wonder if it was that thought somehow

779
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: in my dream state got intertwined. I don't know.

780
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: That's it. And that's what it is. Like with doppelgangers.

781
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 4: They're sort of evil and they kind of want replace

782
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: you and like work you out and like you know,

783
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 4: do horrible things. But with these things, it's all about

784
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: like premonition, like when you when you have that feeling

785
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 4: of dread and like something's going to happen, and something happens.

786
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: This is just the location and the actions of something

787
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: that you're extremely familiar with, or a person you're familiar

788
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: with kind of comes in the door first, like they

789
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 4: just are walking two minutes ahead of you doing all

790
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 4: this stuff. And the example you gave is the perfect example.

791
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: When you start to think about times in your life,

792
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: we were like, did that person just get on the

793
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: elevator and then then get on the elevator again? Like

794
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 4: it is a really weird thing, especially because it's somebody

795
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: you know. It seems to be only amongst people that

796
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 4: know the routines of other people.

797
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: It's also kind of like final destination, like premonition, like

798
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: seeing something happen before it happens.

799
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I was thinking about that lady that was

800
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: in the news yesterday that said that the person on

801
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 4: the plane was imaginary and not real and then.

802
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: Got off the flight. Oh yeah, what was that?

803
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 4: I think it was probably a mental health crisis. But

804
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 4: she also seemed kind of drunk at the same time.

805
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: But yes, she walks into the plane says, I'm getting off.

806
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 4: I'm getting off. I don't care what any of you say.

807
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: That person is not real. And it's like pointing at

808
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: somebody in the back and is like saying they're not real,

809
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: and she gets off.

810
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: I would have followed her so quickly.

811
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: Ros we needed you.

812
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 3: I have said, where are we going, I'm out of here.

813
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: There's a Chili's terminal toob Yes, that's exactly right. We're

814
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: going to Chili's too, and we're getting some rasmataz dackers exactly.

815
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: And I got some a bag of eucharists in my

816
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: carry on. Let's get some caso and let's party.

817
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: But if that plane a crash, then you're talking final destination,

818
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 4: like the fact, I'm so glad it did it, and

819
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: that's everybody was safe. But if that plane had gone

820
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 4: down after that woman did that, what that would have

821
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: People had been talking about that forever, not for seventy

822
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: two hours.

823
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: She'd be on this podcast so quickly, I'd pay whatever

824
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: appearance fee it took. Oh my god, Hey, you guys

825
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: want to see a haunted doll?

826
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: Yes?

827
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Okay, it's time for a segment I like to

828
00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: call the dolls are living? Okay, So here's what I do.

829
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: I go to places like eBay dot com and I

830
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: find dolls that people post and they claim are haunted.

831
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: A lot of times they come with their own little backstories.

832
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: The one we've got for you today, she is a

833
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: discount diva. She is only going for five dollars currently

834
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: or best offer.

835
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: Let's get that number up.

836
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: I'm I am kidding you. Just yesterday I was looking

837
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: at these. I saw one for fifteen thousand dollars. When

838
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: I see five dollars, that to me says, just get

839
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 3: this doll out of my house. It is haunted. Yes, jiha,

840
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: could you throw up the picture here? She is Selene?

841
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: Well, she's bigger than she's bigger than cards. We know

842
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 2: she's a bigger than cards.

843
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: She's next to a deck of cards, just so people

844
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: know her height. So, yep, this is Selene right here.

845
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: She has got gorgeous hair for these dolls, gorgeous, some ringlets,

846
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: an updo hat matching the dress. How are we feeling

847
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: about her so far? I'll tell you a bit about.

848
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Her, honestly, not looking haunted to me, right, Scotty, that

849
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: seems like a relatively I don't want to say good looking.

850
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: Doll, don't.

851
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: I mean, she is beautiful.

852
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful doll.

853
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: She seems like more of a woman doll, you know.

854
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes they're like little baby girls or something. But she

855
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 3: seems very mature.

856
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Seems like a West World style doll. That's what it

857
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: seems like.

858
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: Okay, well, here's what it says about her. Now, keep

859
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: in mind, this is what we're gonna hear about is

860
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: the ghost inside of her. It has nothing to do

861
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 3: with what the actual doll looks like. So it says

862
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: Celene is a sweet spirit. I believe this is a

863
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: fairy spirit. But she seems to like humans to the

864
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: point of wishing that she was a human. She loves

865
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 3: silly TikTok songs and loves watching trashy daytime television. She

866
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: thinks it's funny. She doesn't have any active powers, but

867
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: she will respond using a pendulum or cat toys. I

868
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: don't know too much about her past. She says that

869
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: she was a witness to the JFK assassination and that

870
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: she has been stopping by burning Man since it started

871
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty six. I think she was a fairy

872
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: for a long time before she died. She said that

873
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: this is not her first vessel and that it took

874
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: her a long time before she found this one that

875
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: she now is in and she likes it. If you're

876
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: looking for an entertaining, spirited friend, Selene is a good

877
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: fit for anyone.

878
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: First question, do you ship a haunted doll the way

879
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: you ship a normal doll? Is it just in a box?

880
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: Or is it like when they ship like pet reptiles.

881
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: Yes.

882
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 3: A friend of mine was telling me he got a

883
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: which is my worst nightmare. But I was like, how

884
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: did you get that? He's like, oh, I like ordered

885
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: it and they shipped it and I opened up the

886
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: box and there's a snake inside.

887
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: They do that with baby chickens too.

888
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: So I wonder if they do the same thing like

889
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 3: living creature inside.

890
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want him to like have a chain wrapped

891
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: around it, or like a bible onto you want this

892
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 4: to I mean, I know Selene is very nice and

893
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: likes to burn in the desert, so you know, open

894
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 4: to experimentation, but I think you would want the presentation

895
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: to be a little coffin or just something creepy.

896
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally. Like I always say, this is all

897
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: about marketing, and I think that that would be a

898
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 3: great touch because the thing is, most of the people

899
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: that sell these eBay this is like their business. You

900
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: go to their profile, there's like fifty different ones they've

901
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: got for sale, all with their own biography.

902
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: And they're all haunted. Oh yeah, that's great.

903
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: It also always says we cannot leak sell intangible objects.

904
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: This is for entertainment purposes or whatever. Hebaye makes them

905
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: say something that's like, just so you know, we can't

906
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: actually sell you a ghost, that's not possible, but we're

907
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: selling you a doll, but we're telling you it is.

908
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: There is a ghost.

909
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: It's totally a ghost. Yeah, well, I think hmm.

910
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: The hand sticking out is sort of creepy. The right

911
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: hand is the creepiest part of this. Doll to me,

912
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: because it does look like it's just about to do this,

913
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 4: do you. I also like that you can find out

914
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: a little bit about what the owner's up to and

915
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: what they're watching on TV and listening to you.

916
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: They're watching trash TV and looking at tiktoks.

917
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: No, she is absolutely sorry.

918
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: It's her. She's probably a big Steve Harvey fan or

919
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: Kelly Clarkson or whoever is on.

920
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: She loves the feud. Yeah.

921
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: I think this doll isn't haunted, but if it was

922
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: looking at me in the room, I would turn it

923
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: away from me.

924
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.

925
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: I also like how that description as like almost like

926
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: two revealing, like I expected the next line to be like.

927
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: And sometimes she loves to force you to smoke menthol

928
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: cigarettes while she.

929
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: Watches Oh my god, Well let's do another thing here.

930
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: Please?

931
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: Can I play youse some ghost voices? Yes, it's time

932
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: for EVP or ev pase. Have you guys ever heard

933
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: of an EVP? No?

934
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: Yes?

935
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 3: Do you know what it stands for? No Electronic voice phenomenal? Yeah,

936
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: So basically, it's anytime somebody has captured what they believe

937
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: to be is a ghost speaking. So if you would

938
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 3: have been able to record that ghost saying, hey, we

939
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: could have made it onto the segment.

940
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: Damn.

941
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: But what I do is I go to TikTok, I

942
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 3: go to YouTube. I find people's EVPs, and I'm gonna

943
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: for you. I want you to tell me what you hear,

944
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 3: and then I'll give you some options, with the correct

945
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: answer being what they believe the ghost is saying.

946
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: I love this.

947
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: Okay. This first one is from Cole's Paranormal.

948
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Cole's like Kohl.

949
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: My favorite section.

950
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: They bought this ghost voice with Cole's cash. This is

951
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: cul Z Paranormal on.

952
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: I believe YouTube makes just as much sense.

953
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: This was at a place called the Bonnie Bray Tavern

954
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: in Denver, Colorado.

955
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: That's a weird place, you ben. Yeah, we did go

956
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: the Kurt That's where you and I got the ivs

957
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: and then got lunch. Was in Bonnie Bray, yep, which

958
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: was a racist town. Yeah wait what remember we looked

959
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: up the history of that town and it was a sundown.

960
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: Town or whatever originally.

961
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: Yes, now it's very lovely and charming, but we were like,

962
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: this is creepy and weird.

963
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

964
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: Anyways, we've been there recently.

965
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: I've heard that about Glendale.

966
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: Glendale was a sundowntown true Glendale apologized for it in

967
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: like twenty nineteen. They officially were like, this was horrible,

968
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: which is crazy. I don't think Bonnie Braze ever issued

969
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: an apology.

970
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: Mm though she has not. I've been waiting. I'm waiting

971
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: by the phone every day.

972
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: Well maybe maybe that's what this EVP is.

973
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right?

974
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: What is this ghost voice saying? Can you hear it?

975
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: Okay? One more time?

976
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: One more time?

977
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I were sniffed, Irish.

978
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: Spirit, Irish, Irish spring, Irish. I was here. Oh, I

979
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 2: was here.

980
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one.

981
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: I like that.

982
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 3: Here's some options. Is it a I'm a bear. Maybe

983
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 3: it was a member of the gay subculture known as.

984
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: Bears love That is it?

985
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: B I was there? Ooh close to the one you said.

986
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: Is it C that was then? Or D don't make

987
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: me drink alone alone? It is a tavern?

988
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: I was there.

989
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: I was there. Yeah, that is what they believe.

990
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: It says.

991
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: Let me play it again. Yeah, that's a pretty good one.

992
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: Now here's one more. This one is from Ethan Underscore

993
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: Encounters on TikTok and Yes, and this is at a

994
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: place called the Granger House, which just sounds haunted in Marion, Iowa.

995
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: What is it saying? Okay, wait a second, there's a

996
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: lot more like business going on in the background in

997
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: this one. But let's tune in and listen. Hmm, that's

998
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: a hard one.

999
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: Ross. Maybe please have it one more time? Totally y yeah,

1000
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: m a huge No.

1001
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: He was saying UFC. Let's see if it's MMA or

1002
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: UFC I listen to one more time.

1003
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: Okay, or MVP MVP.

1004
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go with m VP.

1005
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: I will go with every day every day.

1006
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: Well, neither of those is what they thought.

1007
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: Is it a I have to p.

1008
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: B untimey? Oh maybe it was some freaky stuff. Is

1009
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: it C I'm happy? Or d I have T like?

1010
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: Maybe that they got some t they got the gossip said,

1011
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 3: I got t stick around for this ghost hunt. I'll

1012
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 3: tell you more.

1013
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, untimed ooh Untimey is so creepy.

1014
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: I'll go I'm happy. But both of those I could

1015
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: hear both of those.

1016
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: Sure, and the words of Pharrell. I'm happy is the

1017
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: correct answer.

1018
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm happy?

1019
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: Oh, now I hear it.

1020
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: No, that was scotty, Oh that was.

1021
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: Sorry.

1022
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: But I am happy, kinda did it perfectly.

1023
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: Okay, one last thing, I'm just gonna throw out some

1024
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: unexplained paranormal phenomenal and I want you to tell me

1025
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: if you believe in it, if you got some kind

1026
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 3: of if it, maybe it don't inspire an anecdote, or

1027
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, just anything. What do you guys think of? Okay,

1028
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: growing up Catholic demons? Has that stuck around for you,

1029
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: the idea of like demons something that you can get

1030
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: possessed by or you know that kind of idea.

1031
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: No, not for me, Scotty.

1032
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: I would say, in the world of all these paranormal things,

1033
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: that's low in my believability list, just because I can

1034
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 4: imagine people as storytellers inventing a thing to scare you.

1035
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: It feels so scary that I almost don't believe it.

1036
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: I also think, if you exist on a different plane,

1037
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: why do you give a shit?

1038
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

1039
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: Like?

1040
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: Why like why do you have such emotion that that's

1041
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: what you're gonna that's what you're gonna do? Like I

1042
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: don't think.

1043
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: So.

1044
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's boring wherever they are and they just

1045
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: want to stare some shit up.

1046
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: But they can stir shit up in so many fun

1047
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: and interesting ways.

1048
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe right, get yeah, get on YouTube

1049
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: and start commenting on videos. Do something healthy with your energy.

1050
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, those are all demons.

1051
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: Okay, what about synchronicities. Yes, when little things happen, do

1052
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: you do you put that kind of thought into it

1053
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 3: and go that was something?

1054
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, big time into that. That's sort of coincidents that

1055
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: just can't be a coincidence. And I don't care if

1056
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: somebody explains the math or whatever. There have been things

1057
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 4: that have happened to me that it. The craziest one

1058
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: was I was living in New York at the time,

1059
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: and I was killing time, so I went to get lunch.

1060
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 4: I was by myself, and I had a thought about

1061
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 4: somebody I hadn't.

1062
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: Seen in maybe eight years, nine years, and.

1063
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: I started laughing about a story because we used to

1064
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: we went to high school together and we would work

1065
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 4: on these projects. And she told me she had a

1066
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: hamster named Brownie Hamsterdam. And for some reason that came

1067
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 4: back into my mind and I was laughing, and then

1068
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: I zigzagged back down to this meeting that I had

1069
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 4: to go to maybe ten fifteen blocks and I was

1070
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 4: just going whichever way the walk sign was, so you know,

1071
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 4: if it was the walk thing, I would take that cross.

1072
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: And I was cutting across a city.

1073
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 4: Avenue about half an hour later, and out from a

1074
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: TAXI stepped that girl and went Scotti Landis and I go,

1075
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 4: I was just thinking about you twenty minutes ago, and

1076
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 4: she goes, you were And it was the same person.

1077
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 4: And I haven't seen her since, but it was the

1078
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 4: craziest coincidence of my entire life. And it felt impossible.

1079
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 4: She didn't live there. She was visiting somebody, and I

1080
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 4: was leaving lunch and zig zagged into that person after

1081
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 4: thinking them for the first time. And I mean years.

1082
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 4: This wasn't somebody I had a relationship. This was a

1083
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 4: casual friend that came to mind. Then I saw them.

1084
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 3: That's cool.

1085
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: It was so cool.

1086
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: Again, time is an illusion, right, It was.

1087
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: The spirit of Brownie Hamster's tim.

1088
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: That's good enough.

1089
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: It was a pre memory of your meeting.

1090
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a thing like that happened one time.

1091
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: I forget if I've told this story before, but this

1092
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: one time, a couple of years ago, you know, like

1093
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: Chick fil A, we were real passionate about it for

1094
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: a minute and then I'm just like, I feel like

1095
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: I didn't hear much about it, and I was like,

1096
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: are they still like anti? I didn't really know. This

1097
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: is probably five six years ago or something, and I

1098
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 3: was on a layover in I don't even remember Atlanta,

1099
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: let's say, and there was a Chick fil A and

1100
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, no one will see me.

1101
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go in there, like I won't see

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Speaker 3: anyone who cares, like, I'll just go I just want

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Speaker 3: to try it or walk in. And then all of

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00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: a sudden, I see someone I know from LA instantly

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Speaker 3: intercepted me as I was going in.

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Speaker 1: And You're like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, just you know, I'm walking

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Speaker 3: around looking looking for a charger, you know, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was very strange.

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Speaker 2: That's the same thing.

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Speaker 4: And it's so weird when it happens because it's like

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Speaker 4: you knew it was going to happen. So yeah, I

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Speaker 4: believe in synchronicity.

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Speaker 3: What about Have you guys been to psychics?

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Speaker 2: No? I don't think I ever have.

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Speaker 1: I went to a pet psychic once as a joke

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00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: for a podcast.

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Speaker 3: Stop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did it.

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Speaker 3: Seem at all accurate.

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Speaker 2: No, I've had my tarot cards read many times.

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00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: Uh huh, both friends and then I guess people that

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Speaker 4: do it a little more seriously, and that was all.

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Speaker 2: I think. That's really enjoyable.

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Speaker 3: Oh totally.

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Speaker 1: I like the reading stuff because it's like up for interpretation.

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Speaker 1: It's very much like the eaching I do. I do

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Speaker 1: the eaching a lot. I'm looking at my ones right now,

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Speaker 1: and I find it very helpful and nice, just because

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Speaker 1: I think it's gives you a different perspective on the

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Speaker 1: moment you are in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally, honey, just like my career, I'll entertain

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Speaker 3: it all.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, last thing, time travel. Do you think it's possible.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely possible.

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Speaker 3: It kind of goes along with the thing that you

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Speaker 3: were talking about earlier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like it's theoretically possible in physics as well.

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00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, time travel one hundred percent. I don't

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00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: know if reverse time travel is possible but for us

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00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: as human beings, but I think probably other beings could

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Speaker 1: do it. But future time travels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in.

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00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 4: People have also told me that all the aerial phenomenon

1146
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 4: we're seeing now, these new UFOs could potentially be us

1147
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 4: in the future, coming back to inspire us to move

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Speaker 4: faster into the future.

1149
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: When to save the planet. A lot of times people say, I.

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Speaker 4: Hope they do it, which is comforting that we made

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00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 4: it or somebody made it. But yes, I believe in

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Speaker 4: time travel. Why not it wouldn't it would be great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well you guys, that was it.

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Speaker 2: We nailed it.

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00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: Tell people about your podcast Bananas.

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00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 4: Bananas is a strange news podcast that Kurt and I host.

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00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: We have wonderful guests, including Roz and it's a storytelling

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00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: show with really awesome people. We've had Charlie's Theron and

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00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 4: we've had Phoebe Bridges, but our best episodes are with

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Speaker 4: our friends and funny people in our lives.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen Bananas.

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Speaker 3: Well that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Kurt and Scottie. Be sure

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00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: to listen to Bananas everywhere you get your podcasts. Guys,

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00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: I love you so so much. I really appreciate all

1169
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Speaker 3: the love you've been showing me. Please follow the Instagram

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00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: and I will talk to you next week. I love

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Speaker 3: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't

1172
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Speaker 3: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me?

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Speaker 1: Okay by.

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Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

1175
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 3: your paranormal experience on the podcast? I read stories out

1176
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, So email me

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00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You can

1178
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: send a DM or voice message to the show's Instagram

1179
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there,

1180
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: and follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and

1181
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior

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Speaker 3: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 3: allarming Alex Cheen. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the

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Speaker 3: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising

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Speaker 3: Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by the spine

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Speaker 3: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac,

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Speaker 3: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

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Speaker 3: Chilling Karen Kilgariff, the Spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the

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Speaker 3: Frightening Danielle Kramer.