1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 2: Brent Nudson is a self made entrepreneur who learned in 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties that mathematical algorithms, quantum physics and frequencies 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: were going to shape the future, and he went on 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: to forge one of the largest Canadian debit and credit 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: card processing platforms, known as Tangerine Concepts. His technologies have 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: now been in use within the wellness industry for years 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: with amazing results and people benefiting from pain reduction, improved 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: injury recovery, anti aging properties and improved health. He's passionate 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: about frequency and quantum field technologies and excited to bring 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: these technologies to the world at large. He understands today's 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: environmental problems and is the founder and CEO of four Urbs, Inc, 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: a global initiative. Brent Nudson, Welcome back to Coast to 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: Coast AM. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: Hi Richard. Great to be here, Great to be back 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: with you. 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Doctor Magda Havis is an environmental toxicologist and Professor Emerita 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: at Trent School of the Environment at Trent University in Peterborough, Canada. 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: In addition to her research documenting the harmful effects of 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 2: electromagnetic pollution on plants, insects, farm animals, and humans. Doctor 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: Havis is also studying the beneficial effects of pulse electromagnetic 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: fields and like therapy. She's published more than two hundred 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: articles and has given more than three hundred and eighty 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: presentations in more than thirty countries and at twenty five 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: universities and colleges globally on her research. Her passion is 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: to share this information with the public, politicians, and healthcare 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: providers so they can make more informed decisions regarding their 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: EMF exposure. Doctor Havis, welcome back to Coast to. 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: You by her being back. 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: Richard Brent, this is your second appearance on Coast you 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: were back. You were on with me in March talking 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: about this pure wave cell. And I'll direct listeners to 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: the Coast to Coast AM website if they go into 34 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: the slight carousel, which is right there in the landing page, 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: and they'll see for RB's feature photos and that first 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: photograph is of the actual pure wave cell. Just explain 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: what that cell contains and what it's all about. 38 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: Oh okay, great, Richard. What I'll do is I'll try 39 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: to make it is when they're looking at it, or 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: for those that are listening can see. So in basically 41 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: following a formula, a mathematical formula on sacred geometry principle, 42 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: it's just taking very strong neodemium magnets, very powerful and 43 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: the reason that they're important is because they won't lose 44 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: any of their gas rate for at least twenty years, 45 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: so they won't lose any of their strength. So what 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: basically is inside that cell is really potent neodemium magnets 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: that are configured in a geometric form that doesn't allow 48 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: them to move once it's in that shape. In that 49 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: in that pure wave cell, it holds an algorithm frequency 50 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: that we're looking that has a real profound effect on 51 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: not only human cells, but insects, cells, plants, any kind 52 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: of any kind of any kind of cellular structure that's 53 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: that's that's dealing organically, and so that is what is 54 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: they're looking at when they're looking at the cell. But 55 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: it's a very potent, very strong, about forty eight thousand 56 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: gauze strong magnetic frequency that's put into a geometric. 57 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: Form and these these neodymium magnets are placed in the 58 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: alignment is based on sacred geometry. 59 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, that's that's the key, Richard, is that that 60 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: that's what took me all the time and how to 61 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: figure it out. So a lot of my study, my background, 62 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: as you said, was it was in in in debit 63 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: and credit, which is basically in mathematical algorithm moving money around. Well, 64 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: when I came out of that, that industry, but my 65 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: passion was always on sacred geometry shapes because I realized 66 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: by looking in nature, is that's what hells the frequency 67 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: or the algorithms that you're looking for to make change 68 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: or to If you're looking for a certain way of 69 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: making something happen, you've got to formulate that algorithm and 70 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: then hold it. So in this case, I was looking 71 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: to affect cells so that they would be like we'll 72 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: talk later on which is the earth frequency of PMF 73 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: also electric magnetic frequency. It's a natural frequency that the 74 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: Earth formulates. So cells respond to that human, animal, insect, 75 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: and that's what I was looking to capture. So it 76 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: took a whole bunch of trial and era of using 77 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: this magnetic force which glues it. So magnets are the 78 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: gluing force that takes that shape and holds it. Otherwise 79 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: you have to use something man made, you know, electrical 80 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: or so forth. So this is more natural. This was 81 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: a natural way to hold a frequency to effect cells. 82 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: All right, So obviously what we're talking about here is 83 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: a way to combat a very serious problem, which is 84 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 2: a bee colony collapse disorder, where whether it's from toxins 85 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: in the environment or electromagnetic frequencies or causing the worker 86 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: bees in a colony to die off and then mysteriously 87 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: they don't even find the bodies in the hive. The 88 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: queen has left the you know, the baby bees are left. 89 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: There's honey there, but the colony, the hive can't survive 90 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: without the worker bees. And this is happening worldwide. And 91 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: when we consider obviously that the bees I think, I 92 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: read are responsible for about eighty percent of the pollination 93 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: of fruits and vegetables and seed crops just in the 94 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: United States, something like one out of every three mouthfuls 95 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: of food that we put in our mouths be pollinating. 96 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: Pollinating is responsible for that. So this is a dire situation. 97 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: It has huge economic impact, it has a huge ecological impact. 98 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: I mean, our you know, our very survival depends really 99 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: on on bees. So just give us kind of the mission. 100 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: What you're trying to do with these pure wave cells 101 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: at for our bees. 102 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: Well, what that's a great that's great lead in because 103 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: what what it was, what was concerning me was the 104 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: same as you just just indicate it was with this 105 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: huge bee die off. And when I was going through 106 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: the sequences of of of understanding how to affect cells 107 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: or how to how to build up immune systems are 108 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: healthier cells, it became I was doing really studies with 109 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: you know, on with humans and what it was doing 110 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: for pain and for food, how you could reduce pathogens 111 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: in food. But it dawned on me when I came 112 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: out of the industry that I was in is I 113 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: always wanted to be part of something that was bigger 114 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: than myself, which was something that was going on out 115 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: there that was a real problem, and with the bees, 116 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: as used to suggest, it was a real problem. And 117 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: so I thought, well, probably the way. Now there's many reasons. 118 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: Food sources for bees is a big part of it. 119 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: What they're subject to frequency wise, which magdo will get 120 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: into a little bit later, and also what they were 121 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: subject to with their pesticides and so forth. So these 122 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: were what we would call really affecting their immune systems. 123 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: So I thought, well, if I can go in to 124 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: the hives and build up the immune systems of the bees, 125 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: that they could ward off, I can't really affect you know, 126 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: what frequencies they're up against, or some of the pesticides 127 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: and food sources. So if I could go in and 128 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: build up their immune systems, and then if you really, Richard, 129 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: want to help the B situation, you must help the beekeepers. 130 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: They controlled ninety eight percent of all the bees. So 131 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: then it really doned me I really have to look 132 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: after the beekeepers themselves, because they financially when they lose 133 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: bees and food sources, it's really a strain on them. 134 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: So I started a company called four R Bees, which 135 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: would be about going and really looking after the beekeepers 136 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: and providing them with these pure wave cells and food 137 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: sources and queens and so forth to build up their 138 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: industry or their hives, and therefore let them have that 139 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: in the hive and build up the B immune systems. 140 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: And what's what happened is is that the principle of 141 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: thinking about that has really turned it around for these 142 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: beekeepers because it allows them to then go and do 143 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: what their job is and then the bee are strengthened 144 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: up by they have this support systems that are coming 145 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: in for them. So this is this is where we 146 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: started it, and the pure wave cell came out of 147 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: the quantum field of going in and doing what I 148 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: intended to do, which was to build up immune systems. 149 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: And so your your mission is to get one of 150 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: these pure wave cells into the hands of every like, 151 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: get one in every beehive with that, give give them 152 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: to the beekeepers for free so that they can put 153 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: them in the beehives. 154 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: And then you're also that's exactly what we As a 155 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: matter of fact, I have to just say something. The 156 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: whole four ARB's team asked me to express our absolute 157 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: gratitude to the Coast to Coast listeners from the last 158 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: time we were on in March, the support was absolutely 159 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: phenomenal on coming in and supporting buying our honey and 160 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: pure wave cells and what that just to what you're asking, 161 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: what that enabled us to do is we give out 162 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: those cells to the beekeepers at no charge. Those are 163 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: free of charge to them. But it's really because of 164 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: the Coast to Coast listeners and a myriad of other 165 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: people that have come in to support us by doing 166 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: the products that come out of those hives and therefore 167 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: goes right to the beekeepers. So not only the pure 168 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: wave cells are free, but we give special seats wildflower 169 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: seedings that we do where we come and see their 170 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: properties and so that that way the food source is there. 171 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: That was the second issue. And then we come in 172 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: and if there is some die off on queens, it's 173 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: expensive for them to replace that, so we come in 174 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: with the queens and replace. You know, every two years 175 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: you're going to have some queens missing, so we provide that. 176 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,479 Speaker 3: And the more that it can be financially for the beekeepers, 177 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: the stronger they get. So they've been expanding their hives 178 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: and then what they've been doing is getting more properties 179 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: that where they're expanding the hives. So it's really working 180 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: now that we're it's been phenomenal. Even since the last 181 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: four months this of spreading it out, we brought out 182 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: multiple beekeepers saving really because of your listeners, literally protecting 183 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: and saving millions of these It's already in the words, 184 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: and we're expanding it out. 185 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: So doctor Magna has let me get you in here 186 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: and get you to explain why you came on board 187 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: with this project. And so, you know, we have these 188 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: pure wave cells sort of we're getting sort of anecdotal evidence. 189 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: I guess that they were working with beekeepers. They were 190 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: reporting you know, less colony collapse or in fact their 191 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: bee hives were thriving. So you came in to do 192 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: what to apply maybe a little bit more scientific methodology 193 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: do this, that's right. 194 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: I was really quite impressed with the anecdotal information that 195 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: we were getting from the beekeepers. The hives with the 196 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: pure wave cell seemed to be doing so much better, 197 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: and I thought, you know, this really has to be published. 198 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: We need to you know, let other people know about it. 199 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: And so I came on board last fall. And what 200 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: we're doing is we're systematically documenting what's happening with one 201 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 4: of the bee keepers who's been in the business, you know, 202 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 4: three generations now, so they really know what they're doing. 203 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: And basically what we're doing is simply allowing them to 204 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: do their job, and we're just documenting the change in 205 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: the two yards, one with the pure wave cell and 206 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 4: one without. 207 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: All right, so you know, in any scientific experiment, yeah, 208 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: as you say, you've got the control group and you've 209 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: got the experimental group. The experimental group these hives have 210 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,479 Speaker 2: the pure wave cell and the control group have none. 211 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: And so what do you I mean, what other variables 212 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: do you have to control for well an experiment. 213 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, ideally you want conditions except for the pure waste cell. 214 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 4: We don't have that exactly. Actually, the reference b yard, 215 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: the one without the cell, has a more favorable crop. 216 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: It's a hayfield with alfalfa and canola, and both alfalfa 217 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 4: and canola are be pollinated. 218 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 219 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: The other yard that does have the pure wave cell 220 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: is am is adjacent to a cornfield and corn is 221 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: wind pollinated. So there's a slight advantage for the bee 222 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: hives that's near that doesn't have the pure WAVEE cell. 223 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 4: And when we compare the two, we compare them last 224 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 4: fall when the bees were getting ready to overwinter, and 225 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: we found that the bees in the pure with the 226 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: pure wave cell, there were more of them, They were 227 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: much more active, They had a very good hygiene for 228 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: the hives. They weren't aggress of it all. There was 229 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: a very small low level of light infestation. They looked 230 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: like incredibly healthy colonies. And then when we opened up 231 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 4: them up in the spring, we found that there were 232 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: so many bees in the yard with the pure wave 233 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: cell that we had to the farmer. The beekeepers had 234 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: to split the hives because they were overcrowding. Whereas in 235 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: the other yard that didn't have the pure wave cell, 236 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: more hives were dead the colony collapse disorder. They needed 237 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: much many more queens. They were a little bit more 238 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: aggressive than the hive with the pure wave cell. So 239 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: it's really making a difference based on with the farmers 240 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: the beekeepers have shown and certainly based on our preliminary 241 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: studies as well. 242 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: I've got less than a minute here before we break 243 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour, doctor Habits, But what 244 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: about the production of honey in the hives, those with 245 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: the pure wave cell and those without. 246 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: Did you find Well, when. 247 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: The when the original beekeepers for doing their study, they 248 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: put the pure wave cell in the same yard, so 249 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: some of the cells had pure some of the be 250 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: have have pure wave cells, and some didn't. And when 251 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: that happened, the honey production was much greater with the 252 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 4: pure wave cell. In our study, what we're finding is 253 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: the honey production is virtually identical when you when you 254 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: break it down to you know per box, and that's 255 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: simply because one has a better food source than the other. 256 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: And we've done a little bit of a change to 257 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: the experiment that we can talk about when we come back, 258 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: and that'll show us whether or not the food is 259 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: making a difference. 260 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast a M every weeknight 261 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: at one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to 262 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: Coast a m dot com for more