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Speaker 1: and we're here, ready to talk about Cowboys football. There
Speaker 1: are on the in the playoffs. Everyone knows that this
Speaker 1: weekend they are hosting the Seattle Seahawks. But before we
Speaker 1: get into any of that, Blake Jarwin. He won NFC
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Week and that's kind of I mean,
Speaker 1: it's surprising in a way, not because of his performance
Speaker 1: last weekend he got three touchdowns against the Giants, but
Speaker 1: surprising that the Cowboys have a tight end winning that
Speaker 1: for the first time ever. Now, I wanted to ask you, guys,
Speaker 1: after seeing this performance and where we're at right now,
Speaker 1: does this change anything as far as tight end goes
Speaker 1: as far as the position. Did it come too late
Speaker 1: in the season or is this something that came up
Speaker 1: right at the right time for you to kind of
Speaker 1: start changing your tune as far as the tight end
Speaker 1: future for the Cowboys? Man, I don't know. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think at this point it's the best timing that
Speaker 1: it could possible that you could possibly have because you've
Speaker 1: been waiting. I think everybody's been waiting all season to
Speaker 1: see which if any of these tight ends would step
Speaker 1: up and have not that kind of performance because nobody
Speaker 1: predicted that, but have some kind of performance where you
Speaker 1: would start to think, Okay, the tight end is actually
Speaker 1: a position where there's maybe some stability. You can maybe
Speaker 1: count on it in certain situations, particularly in the red zone,
Speaker 1: and where you can force defenses to respect the middle
Speaker 1: of the field where your tight end might be, and
Speaker 1: that's been something that's been sorely missing all season. So yes,
Speaker 1: the time was great and it certainly changes my opinion
Speaker 1: about what I think of the tight end position and
Speaker 1: how it fits into this offense. I don't think he
Speaker 1: should have won the award. I can tell you another
Speaker 1: player that was more deserving, Dak Dak should have won
Speaker 1: that award. Dak had a better game and there's a
Speaker 1: reason why, in my opinion, that no tight end and
Speaker 1: Cowboys Sittory has ever won that award because it's not
Speaker 1: really they're not doing anything out of the ordinary that
Speaker 1: get open, make the make the play and make a catch,
Speaker 1: get up the field. He had one touchdown that was
Speaker 1: kind of a nice move, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: it was get the ball to your tight end when
Speaker 1: he's open, and I thought, Dak, you know, than what
Speaker 1: he did the rest of the game. I thought Dak
Speaker 1: had a better game. But I think it's really what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is I think it's on Dak
Speaker 1: for finding these guys, getting the ball to him, spreading
Speaker 1: around to find the open guy. Jarving good job getting open,
Speaker 1: make a place. But that's I mean, that's half of
Speaker 1: it though, That's half the battle, and that's that's something
Speaker 1: we've been It's been a theme all year is Dak's
Speaker 1: accuracy hasn't always been great, but at these guys aren't
Speaker 1: catching balls a lot of the times either, And this
Speaker 1: game stood out to me. Jarwin made those plays, Cole
Speaker 1: Beasley made those plays. Michael Gallup actually had a really
Speaker 1: nice one. I mean it was not a well thrown
Speaker 1: ball at all, but it's the NFL, right, and so
Speaker 1: I do think it matters to have a tight end
Speaker 1: holding up his end of the bargain, and you can
Speaker 1: go back. Actually I thought about this. We were in
Speaker 1: a production meeting earlier today. Blake Jarwin and it wasn't
Speaker 1: an easy play at all, but he bobbled a pass
Speaker 1: from Dak that turned into an Earl Thomas interception in
Speaker 1: this game in week three, So I think it's a
Speaker 1: fitting indicator of how far he's come. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's going to do that again against Seattle, but it's
Speaker 1: one more threat. I think it does matter that the
Speaker 1: Seahawks have to respect the middle of the field if
Speaker 1: he's going to be playing that way. So very good timing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now as far as threat, that being one of them.
Speaker 1: And another piece that we've keep talking about Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: and when you start looking at the few things that
Speaker 1: he was able to do in the game against the
Speaker 1: Giants and now moving on to this next week, are
Speaker 1: you guys expecting the Cowboys to real utilize him someway
Speaker 1: And we keep trying to figure this whole thing out,
Speaker 1: but now it's at a time where okay, now you
Speaker 1: really do need a guy like him on the field,
Speaker 1: whether it's to do something as far as actual plays
Speaker 1: or be a distraction for defenses. Based on what you
Speaker 1: saw last weekend, are you expecting the Cowboys to do
Speaker 1: anything different involved get him more involved? I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: necessarily different. I think what we saw last week is
Speaker 1: probably what I expect now. I think the results could
Speaker 1: be different. Um I think that I look at him
Speaker 1: and Cole Beasily very similarly. What I mean is, I
Speaker 1: don't think what Cold did it last weekend. I don't
Speaker 1: think Cold did it every week. I think this is
Speaker 1: one of those situations where one of those players you
Speaker 1: would hope in a given week kind of gets on
Speaker 1: a run a little bit and they they're utilize a
Speaker 1: little bit more or have a little bit more success.
Speaker 1: But that's that's as much as I would experire. Last night,
Speaker 1: somebody like yelling what's going on? He had something to
Speaker 1: yell about. It's good. I'm good, good Nick? Um No,
Speaker 1: But seriously that I don't. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: that they necessarily will do more with him. It's just
Speaker 1: that in certain games he may have more of an
Speaker 1: impact than he's had another game. I thought that it
Speaker 1: was clear what they were trying to do was just
Speaker 1: put him on tape. Just do the things that he does.
Speaker 1: There was a little gadget play out of the backfield
Speaker 1: where you know where he caught the ball and went
Speaker 1: ten yards. What else does he do? He does reverses.
Speaker 1: They didn't give him the ball, but they did a
Speaker 1: fake to him. What else does he do? Go deep?
Speaker 1: They threw one deep to him, he didn't catch it.
Speaker 1: What else we're returning punts? He was out there. I
Speaker 1: just think they wanted to put him out there, put
Speaker 1: him on tape. We'll see what happened. I think it
Speaker 1: does a little bit more. But they wanted to kind
Speaker 1: of say, don't forget about this guy with Seattle, to
Speaker 1: kind of him on the radar, which which really just
Speaker 1: like Jarvin, just like everyone else. It's really about whatever
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Take your eyes off twenty one. That's
Speaker 1: what we're trying to get you to do. Here's a
Speaker 1: fun little tidbit. And I have to give credit to
Speaker 1: Todd Archer for this. There's a reason why I sit
Speaker 1: with him at practice every day. He's very very good
Speaker 1: at what he does and moves people if they sit there. True,
Speaker 1: I saw that yesterday. Yeah, get out of my seat,
Speaker 1: Get out of my seat. Sit there. We do we
Speaker 1: move him. We got a routine. We're eighteen weeks into
Speaker 1: this thing. It's not time to change now. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: routine looks like this is what looks like routine looks
Speaker 1: like Todd checks off all the players. See, if you're there,
Speaker 1: you look at Twitter and then you ask and then
Speaker 1: you collaborate. That's not one hundred percent true, but it's
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent wrong, got it? Okay, Okay, just
Speaker 1: because I'm holding my phone doesn't mean I'm not paying
Speaker 1: attention to No. Absolutely, Tavon was full all last week
Speaker 1: and he's limited now. Something came up either during the
Speaker 1: game or at practice yesterday. But so he's clearly bothered
Speaker 1: by something or else. He probably wouldn't if even if
Speaker 1: he'd be listed, he would have been full. But they
Speaker 1: downgrade him. Of course, he's a veteran. Maybe that's part
Speaker 1: of it being cautious with him. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it's something to watch, and that's it gives me not
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence that he's going to have some
Speaker 1: big impact in this game or or even be active.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing we look and see what he
Speaker 1: is today, is he's still limited or as he moved
Speaker 1: back to full, because if he's now limited, then it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where okay, we were working him
Speaker 1: back off the game. It was short because you said, Nick, yesterday,
Speaker 1: when we're out of practice, you look at that, it
Speaker 1: really was these guys are back out there practicing full
Speaker 1: like it's a Wednesday, when really it's a Tuesday. So
Speaker 1: they're two days off a game and most of those
Speaker 1: guys played, so maybe it's a situation where after off
Speaker 1: the three, let's just limit his time, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what he does today. But you're right, if it's limited
Speaker 1: again today, eyebrows should definitely raise. I would, I would
Speaker 1: think all and the other time, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: giving I'm not giving away secrets because they did it
Speaker 1: in front of the media. Well, I've gotten in trouble
Speaker 1: for that before. But um, things I think hard, but
Speaker 1: they caught me about surprise. Let me say something else
Speaker 1: first and then yeah, and you think about whether or
Speaker 1: not you want to interstand that good point. But um,
Speaker 1: Jason did say yesterday, Um, and as a press corm
Speaker 1: afterwards about how he was really adamant about special teams,
Speaker 1: about getting more guys out there flying down the field.
Speaker 1: They got CJ. Goodwin. Now he wants to see that.
Speaker 1: It's a point of emphasis. Lance Lanor was a guy
Speaker 1: that was doing that. And then he he's not. He
Speaker 1: didn't play last week because a good one he was
Speaker 1: inactive with Austin coming back. But they still need that
Speaker 1: to get that. They need more speed, They need more
Speaker 1: guys that can fly down the field and do that.
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if they decide not to play Tavon,
Speaker 1: is it because they want a little bit more special
Speaker 1: teams help from that standpoint, But it's the flip side
Speaker 1: to that too, because they're wanting, yeah, they're wanting Tavon
Speaker 1: to give him a little more juice there returning about
Speaker 1: so it's it's kind of give or take, right, suffice
Speaker 1: to say that it's something to watch and I don't
Speaker 1: have you know, it's disappointing for me. You can go
Speaker 1: back and find the shows. Like I had sky high
Speaker 1: optimism for what Tavon Austin could bring for this offense,
Speaker 1: so I would love to see him have some big
Speaker 1: role in this game. I kind of leaned towards not
Speaker 1: that they're going to face a player who you would
Speaker 1: love for Tavon Austin to have that role. Tyler Lockett
Speaker 1: to have that role as a second or maybe third receiver.
Speaker 1: He's a punt returner, he can do things, get fly,
Speaker 1: can get by you. I will say Tavon Frasier, he
Speaker 1: can get by you. But but Tyler Lockett is a
Speaker 1: far better purer receiver than Tavon though why I just
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a route he's their leading receiver, he's
Speaker 1: a route runner. But other top guys also been out.
Speaker 1: The top guys also been out for a good part
Speaker 1: of the Rams draft him in the eighth overall pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's been a bust. They saw the speed
Speaker 1: and they just wanted the speed, right yeah, But I
Speaker 1: mean what sucks is like before he got here or
Speaker 1: during that time that it happened, you know, everyone was questioning, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can they find the role for him, which that
Speaker 1: has been the problem that teams have had with him
Speaker 1: as far as roll and then you listen to Lenahan
Speaker 1: talk and how confident they sounded as far as, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: call him whatever you want, he's a receiver, running back,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him. Just made it sound
Speaker 1: like they were confident that they were gonna be able
Speaker 1: to really find their good role for him. And it's
Speaker 1: disappointing that we're here in the season. Half of it
Speaker 1: he's been injured, but the other half you never really
Speaker 1: saw that happening. From think about this, if we did
Speaker 1: a point counterpoint back in the summer, who will I've
Speaker 1: boys find a way to create a role for more Tavon,
Speaker 1: Austin or Rico gathers which guy are they going to
Speaker 1: really find a role for and who's gonna have a
Speaker 1: bigger role Because you can start off by saying it
Speaker 1: was Tavon, but I mean they've created they've made sure
Speaker 1: that Rico had a role. Yeah, no, I would have
Speaker 1: said Tavon for sure. Yeah, I mean that's but it's
Speaker 1: like really like they really haven't found the role for him.
Speaker 1: They love the tight ends that they'd love the tied end,
Speaker 1: they haven't found a role and that's you know, it's
Speaker 1: obviously been derailed by the injury, and you can't blame
Speaker 1: him for that, but like even I mean, they played
Speaker 1: six games or seven games with him and it no,
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't know what to do with him,
Speaker 1: or they didn't execute it the way they wanted to.
Speaker 1: I don't whatever you want to say, but they didn't
Speaker 1: do it. I think what has to be factored in, though,
Speaker 1: is that this offense changed a bit when they got
Speaker 1: Aamari Cooper and he hasn't been a part of that.
Speaker 1: So now, not only did they not really find a
Speaker 1: great role for him before he got hurt. But now
Speaker 1: they're having to almost start over to some degree because
Speaker 1: the offense is a little different now that you have
Speaker 1: Cooper out there, So how do you work him in
Speaker 1: to that? So that's gonna be an a whole different thing.
Speaker 1: And that's why you know at this point, the way
Speaker 1: I look at it is find a few gadgets for
Speaker 1: him every every game. Like I said before, the results
Speaker 1: are really what you expect that are gonna fly. Like
Speaker 1: if they can get him back and they start using
Speaker 1: him kind of sparingly, I still have no doubt that
Speaker 1: at some point, if they can go deeper in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: at some point he'll make a play for them that's
Speaker 1: gonna win him a game. Right. I think he can
Speaker 1: do that. He has that ability. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: about a player like him. You can't come in expecting
Speaker 1: he's going to be an every week great producer, like
Speaker 1: that's not what his role is. His role will be
Speaker 1: it's gonna have those little gadget plays and those gadget roles.
Speaker 1: And that means sometimes he'll hit, other times not so much.
Speaker 1: But the defense will be paying attention. Is the hope
Speaker 1: will be paying attention to him. Is your hope at
Speaker 1: this point. Do you think that defenses, let's talk Seattle,
Speaker 1: because that's who we're facing next. Do you think Seattle
Speaker 1: is consider him as a player that would be a
Speaker 1: threat to them in certain situations? Yes, I think in
Speaker 1: certain situation it's to a point that they kind of
Speaker 1: have him planted that in other teams to where okay,
Speaker 1: yes he is a threat, or they see him as
Speaker 1: just somebody else that they could take alias. Let's not
Speaker 1: use the word threat in the way like the way
Speaker 1: you say threats, like I don't want to call him
Speaker 1: a threat. Yeah, he's a he's on the team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's sure. I don't know if Deacon five is better
Speaker 1: than Deacon four, but it's not that. But I do
Speaker 1: think it's something that an imposing defense is aware if
Speaker 1: if he is running across the field in motion, they're
Speaker 1: aware of him, no doubt about it. They're aware of him,
Speaker 1: and that could create but maybe not. But the point
Speaker 1: is if they're aware, then that means that may give
Speaker 1: you that beat where the linebacker has the hole that
Speaker 1: creates a hole on the other side for you to
Speaker 1: hand off to Zeke. So my point is he doesn't
Speaker 1: happen again. He doesn't have to have great numbers every week.
Speaker 1: His ability to be on the field and what he
Speaker 1: does well, which is uses speed, that can give you
Speaker 1: some advantages in certain situations because teams have to be
Speaker 1: aware of him. But this, and that's the whole reason
Speaker 1: that I thought he could really have a nice year. Here.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to kill him because he's been hurt
Speaker 1: and that's not his fault. But it has not materialized.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he's on the injury report again
Speaker 1: right now does not give me any confidence whatsoever that
Speaker 1: it will materialize in that eye off game. So yeah,
Speaker 1: not expect to spend that much time. I know. Good
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Speaker 1: we come back. Let's dive in real quick on the
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Speaker 1: Slash Football Back to the Break, We are back. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the second segment of the break. Several guys
Speaker 1: that have been on the injury report showed up as
Speaker 1: limited yesterday, which is a good sign. As far as
Speaker 1: Sack Martin. You got Tyrone Crawford as well, Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: I think it's not any different today than what it
Speaker 1: was yesterday. If anything, would be better. But the only
Speaker 1: other guy with the big question mark around it is
Speaker 1: Exeber Suafila, who hurt his ankle in the game against
Speaker 1: the Giants and at this point still hasn't practiced and
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's gonna be any different and
Speaker 1: probably most likely would not play this weekend. I think
Speaker 1: you're getting way too ahead. You don't think so Wednesday,
Speaker 1: I mean it is Wednesday. It's still and they play
Speaker 1: on Saturday. I get it, but I still think that
Speaker 1: he could I'm back and play in this game. I
Speaker 1: don't know that for sure, but I I mean, let's
Speaker 1: just see how they listed him today. He wasn't out
Speaker 1: there when we saw him. But I think there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a big difference between him and Connor Williams. I
Speaker 1: think that they'll try to get him to play. He
Speaker 1: needs to play. Yeah, he needs to. And just to
Speaker 1: be clear, Garrett said in his press conference that he
Speaker 1: is moving around better. What that means. Who knows. He
Speaker 1: says he's not ready to practice, but he says he's
Speaker 1: moving around better. We'll see how that progresses over the
Speaker 1: next couple of days. But I agree with you, Nick,
Speaker 1: I think he needs to play. I'm I'm I would
Speaker 1: be a little bit worried if if Connor's out there,
Speaker 1: just because I just think that right now, Connor is
Speaker 1: just he needs more strength. His technique isn't great, and
Speaker 1: we saw it. I don't know how many you guys
Speaker 1: have seen that video that's circulating on Twitter. I was
Speaker 1: telling you guys about in the break, but on one
Speaker 1: of the sacks last week, Defender just basically ripped him
Speaker 1: to the ground to the Connor Okay, because I was
Speaker 1: doing Connor. I'm sorry, Yeah, just kind of grab they
Speaker 1: were they were, they were, they kind of connected, and
Speaker 1: then he just basically just ripped him to the round
Speaker 1: and it was just, you know, it's one of the
Speaker 1: situations with offensive line gets lineman gets over extended, his
Speaker 1: balance is off, and then the defender just basically uses
Speaker 1: that against him, rips him down and then he's off
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. And again, it just underscored to me
Speaker 1: that Connors is not there yet, and that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: he can't get there. I think it's the reason why
Speaker 1: Stuelpilo took the job when he got hurt and didn't
Speaker 1: give it back, is because I think they probably see
Speaker 1: the same thing that Connor's just not there yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm torn how I feel about this because we've
Speaker 1: seen this before. Xavier hurt his ankle in the what
Speaker 1: would that have been the Saints game and played against
Speaker 1: the Eagles here at at and T and he wasn't good.
Speaker 1: He struggled, and I mean, obviously you're an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: like you need to be able to plant your feet
Speaker 1: and if your ankle is sprayed, that's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: pretty difficult. So I don't know. I don't and I
Speaker 1: agree with both of I agree with what you're saying
Speaker 1: that starting Connor Williams in this game is not my
Speaker 1: ideal scenario. But a healthy Connor who needs more power
Speaker 1: and technique or a guy who can't plant on his foot. No,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I am not I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I want to see Xavier out there hobbled like. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is my hope
Speaker 1: is that he's actually capable of playing which and then
Speaker 1: you put him out there because I think he is better.
Speaker 1: I think he's sizeably better right now than what Connor
Speaker 1: is when he's healthy. Now, he's not gonna be one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, but what's that range where he can still
Speaker 1: be effective even if he's not healthy. That's where I
Speaker 1: want to hopefully get him. This is one of those
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about with Tyrn Smith all the time,
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, he doesn't need to practice, like
Speaker 1: he just plug him in. If he can go, he
Speaker 1: can go. I'm not sold that Xavier Suaphilo is that
Speaker 1: guy like not practicing all week, being hobbled and I
Speaker 1: don't want to say you get rusty, because I think
Speaker 1: it takes more than a week for that to happen.
Speaker 1: But just you need the practice time. Connor's getting the
Speaker 1: practice time. Connor's not hurt. Again. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to sell this as some ideal scenario, but I
Speaker 1: do think this is a genuine question where what's the
Speaker 1: better option? You know, I kind of lean toward the
Speaker 1: healthy guy. Maybe, you know, we'll go back to that
Speaker 1: game against Philadelphia on the road, the first game he played,
Speaker 1: if if I remember correctly, he did not even take
Speaker 1: all the reps that week. It with him and redman
Speaker 1: Nure back and forth with it, you know which one
Speaker 1: was going to be. And then very end of the
Speaker 1: week it was like, all right, this is gonna be Suaphilo.
Speaker 1: And he played really well in that game, and so
Speaker 1: I kind of think he can he can kind of
Speaker 1: come back. I think personally he will want to play.
Speaker 1: I don't know everyone says that, but like this is
Speaker 1: a big deal for him, you know as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was a high draft pick, he was cut, he's
Speaker 1: trying to resurrect his career. He really needs to play
Speaker 1: in this game. So I think he will definitely try.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with playing him, starting
Speaker 1: him in the game, and then if it just doesn't work,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. And it seemed like at one point,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the same thing
Speaker 1: when he got hurt over there, it seemed as if
Speaker 1: he was ready to go back Keene at one point
Speaker 1: that he might go back into the game, and they
Speaker 1: didn't put him back, but it looked that way. He
Speaker 1: was staying around kind of on the sideline, And I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the impression that I gave me, and then seeing
Speaker 1: the report that he hasn't done anything yet. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go back to what we talked about in the
Speaker 1: last segment. So let's say Stuphilo he can play. He's
Speaker 1: gonna he looks like he's ready to go. We'll see
Speaker 1: he's a little gimp. He's done hundred percent, But I
Speaker 1: think he can play. Do you want to start him?
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys would probably say, yes, we need
Speaker 1: to make sure Redman is active because we need to
Speaker 1: make sure Connor is ready. Yeah, that goes back to
Speaker 1: what you just said. Who's your luxury player here? Luxury players?
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin, you can basily can return the punts and
Speaker 1: someone else can can get his three snaps on offense.
Speaker 1: So totally possible. That could be your luxury and Sean
Speaker 1: Lee can still play with the way that they have
Speaker 1: utilized Tavon Austin or lack thereof. I'd rather have all
Speaker 1: hands on deck on my gimpy offensive line than the
Speaker 1: five snaps that Tavon's gonna get. The defensive line also
Speaker 1: be another area where you would look at that. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: assuming you got Crawford back, Well that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And he said yesterday, And it's a good segue there
Speaker 1: because Tyrone did talk for the first time since the
Speaker 1: injury and I think the word scary or scare was
Speaker 1: mentioned forty six times forty seven maybe, I mean as
Speaker 1: it should because it should be. And so they asked him,
Speaker 1: one of the reporters asked him, do you think that
Speaker 1: you know you're okay to come back and play? You
Speaker 1: think they would have you out there if if you
Speaker 1: could risk further injury and you could just tell he
Speaker 1: was thinking, like, you know, I think him, Okay, I
Speaker 1: guess the trainers wouldn't have me out there, right right,
Speaker 1: and you know it was right right. I was like,
Speaker 1: so give me some comfortable right that. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I know, I know the trainers would have me out.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. It's always important, I think stop
Speaker 1: and take perspective of how insane football is. Because they
Speaker 1: had to take his face mask off and immobilize him
Speaker 1: and take him to the hospital ten days ago, and
Speaker 1: now we're talking about whether he can play another game.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that that's crazy, he said.
Speaker 1: The moment he thought it was really bad was when
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman for the Bucks asked him, dude, are
Speaker 1: you okay? And he's like, That's when I kind of
Speaker 1: really got scared because they don't ever do that. Players
Speaker 1: don't ever say he said. The opposing he said, the
Speaker 1: other guy heard whatever popped in his neck? Yeah, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's terrifying. Yeah, yeah exactly. I know you you kind
Speaker 1: of pop your necks. Wasn't that or was it like bone?
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I don't know, but you weren't in
Speaker 1: the trenches. I was not. I was not down on
Speaker 1: the loud noises around. Yeah, and that's you hear me
Speaker 1: crack my neck in a quiet office, not in the
Speaker 1: stadium with ninety thousand people, so a lot of other
Speaker 1: stuff being eighty five. I mean last week it was
Speaker 1: two how many what? How many people do you think
Speaker 1: we're there? Hold on, You're right. There was a sellout.
Speaker 1: It was a set. I was thinking. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was thinking last Yeah, and that was
Speaker 1: not a seventy seven thousand and um yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a bad crowd in New York. Oh it was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty good. I actually give the Giants fans credit.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, well, that Cowboys fans were there too, half
Speaker 1: and half a lot of Giants fans there. I mean
Speaker 1: the presence. I think you probably want to keep all
Speaker 1: hands on deck on your defensive line too. Just I mean,
Speaker 1: how confident do you feel about tyrone? I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about like those kind of injuries though,
Speaker 1: I don't look at that as um. That to me
Speaker 1: is more about is he if he's ready. It's I
Speaker 1: don't think that's something where it's it's not soft. Get
Speaker 1: into the game. Yes, you get into the game and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden starts acting up, like your neck
Speaker 1: didn't start acting up. It's it's either healthier it's not,
Speaker 1: and if it's not, then he's not. He said, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely going to feel it, so I just got to
Speaker 1: play through it. But it's better than he thought it
Speaker 1: would be. I just think games like that, your luxury
Speaker 1: players are not going to be You don't have time
Speaker 1: for him, you know, I mean, you don't have the space. So, um,
Speaker 1: Davon maybe won't be active. Maybe Sean Lee's not active
Speaker 1: in this game. It's possible. It's definitely possible. No, No,
Speaker 1: it just breaks my heart. Yeah, I mean yeah, playoff game,
Speaker 1: you kind of want him out. No, I think he'll
Speaker 1: be active. Yeah, I do too, good too, But you
Speaker 1: probably have that conversation like is he given us special
Speaker 1: team snaps? What's going on? I mean yeah, so hey,
Speaker 1: if you told Sean Lee I need you to run
Speaker 1: down a kick off, he'd be like, what's I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a really I mean, that's a good point, good
Speaker 1: way he would he absolutely, I don't know how good
Speaker 1: he'd be at it, but he'd give it everything he's got. Truth.
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Speaker 1: to hear about the Seattle offense and how different they
Speaker 1: are at this time of the year compared to last time.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys some of them, y'all remember when we sat
Speaker 1: here in September and I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: why I don't give the ball to Chris Carson, Like
Speaker 1: that guy is really good. Well, I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to say that, but I mean we said they
Speaker 1: got a heavy dose of Chris Carson in that first game,
Speaker 1: and then the Seahawks were like, We're just gonna keep
Speaker 1: doing that. Because he had thirteen combined carries in the
Speaker 1: first two games of this season. He finished the season
Speaker 1: with two hundred and forty seven carries us still about
Speaker 1: fifty behind Zeke, but he's been averaging twenty carries per
Speaker 1: game since he basically took over the starting job. He
Speaker 1: was top five in rushing this year or yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: definitely top ten. At one point he was top five.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he still is, but He's an
Speaker 1: eleven hundred and fifty one yards, so he's he's up there.
Speaker 1: He has had a nice season, and I think the
Speaker 1: world of Russell Wilson. I would have voted for him
Speaker 1: for MVP if I had a vote last year. But like, really,
Speaker 1: this whole thing is about Chris Carson and the Seattle
Speaker 1: run game. And to be fair, they have a committee. Um,
Speaker 1: Mike Davis is a name you need to know. He's
Speaker 1: their number two. That's his first name, right, Yes, Mike Davis, Sorry, Carolina,
Speaker 1: Mike Davis. One hundred and twelve attempts. He's at five
Speaker 1: hundred yards. Rashad Penny, the first round pick, is at
Speaker 1: four hundred yards. Russell Wilson has four hundred as well,
Speaker 1: So I mean they have a committee. But Chris Carson
Speaker 1: is the dude. He's the closest thing they've had to
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch since they had Marshawn Lynch. He is a tough,
Speaker 1: physical son of a gun, and he sets up everything
Speaker 1: else that they want to do, Like he never goes
Speaker 1: down on first contact, he never goes anywhere but forward.
Speaker 1: He's a tough son of a bee, and he sets
Speaker 1: up the play action. He sets up everything Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: wants to do. So for my money, as good as
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is, it's all about slowing that down, which
Speaker 1: is going to be easier said than done. Their first
Speaker 1: in the league at one hundred and sixty rushing yards
Speaker 1: per game, and much like last time, I think that's
Speaker 1: what they're just gonna stubbornly commit to that run and
Speaker 1: take me ask you, yeah, that being said, what gives
Speaker 1: you confidence or do you have no confidence based on
Speaker 1: what you saw the Cowboys do, particularly in Indianapolis, that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will write that and not end up in
Speaker 1: a situation where, again against a power running team, they
Speaker 1: don't get eaten up, which that Indie game is so
Speaker 1: weird because I mean, they just looked lost like they
Speaker 1: and we've seen teams run on them. The Seahawks ran
Speaker 1: for one hundred and ten yards on forty carries. Then
Speaker 1: that's so. I think Carson average two point eight yards
Speaker 1: per carry in this last game, you know. I think
Speaker 1: that that's what makes the Indie game so weird. I
Speaker 1: think the Colts are very unique in the sense that
Speaker 1: I think because of the offensive structured I think they
Speaker 1: pass to run. I really believe that the way that
Speaker 1: Luck gets those guys open the passing game opens up
Speaker 1: a little bit more running game for them. Maybe you
Speaker 1: could say that Brady does the same in New England,
Speaker 1: and most teams aren't that way. Most teams run the
Speaker 1: ball so they can set things up, play accident and
Speaker 1: all that. I think it's different with them, and so
Speaker 1: therefore I think it's a tough matchup, you know, or
Speaker 1: some teams, and the Cowboys were really caught off guard.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be Ve'll have a hard time
Speaker 1: getting I don't think he'll get gashed like they did
Speaker 1: in that game. Also, I think it's worth pointing out
Speaker 1: the Seahawks do not have the Colts offensive line. Like
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson is a big point. He's not gonna win
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. He should absolutely be in consideration.
Speaker 1: Braden Smith is really good as well. Like their offensive
Speaker 1: I mean, Andrew Luck has only been sacked like fourteen
Speaker 1: times this year or whatever the number is. This is
Speaker 1: not that this offensive line. Literally from week to from
Speaker 1: week sixteen to week seventeen, they shuffled the lineup, like
Speaker 1: not because somebody was hurt, but just because they're not performing.
Speaker 1: The way they would prefer. Jermaina Fetti. He was the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman drafted in the whole Paxton Lynch situation a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I mean they drafted him as
Speaker 1: a tackle and he played guard. He played right guard
Speaker 1: this past week. But their offensive line is not There
Speaker 1: were a couple of years there a few years ago
Speaker 1: where their offensive line was just terrible. It's not that
Speaker 1: it's certainly better than it has been like they I mean,
Speaker 1: Chris Carson's in an eleven hundred yard rusher, and Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson has had more time, but they're not amazing like
Speaker 1: by any means. So between Leyton vander esh and Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith and then I think Antoine Woods and Malie cons
Speaker 1: will have a much better days. That is what gives
Speaker 1: me hope is I think it's a better matchup for
Speaker 1: the front seven against this line than it was in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: It sounds like what you're saying is very some of
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys experience against against this team. It's not
Speaker 1: that the offensive line, I mean, it's not that this
Speaker 1: running game just completely gashes you. It is that they
Speaker 1: consistently stick to it and over time, with volume, they
Speaker 1: kind of wear you down a bit. They can gash
Speaker 1: you though, if you're not I mean, if you're not
Speaker 1: on your screws, which I like. I just I like
Speaker 1: Chris Carson a lot. He's fun to watch. He's got
Speaker 1: two of the goofiest, awesomest plays of the season. Like
Speaker 1: Week two against Denver, he literally leapt over I mean Zeke,
Speaker 1: remember what Zeke did in Philly. He did it better
Speaker 1: because he leapt over a guy who was standing upright
Speaker 1: and kept running. And then in Carolina a month and
Speaker 1: a half ago, he got flipped upside down landed on
Speaker 1: his hand, and like, he's just he's fun player to
Speaker 1: watch and he's a guy you got to account for.
Speaker 1: And then obviously Russell Wilson is he's such a freelancer
Speaker 1: and that's that's the bummer. Is like he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys where you can do everything right and still
Speaker 1: get burned. And that's something they're gonna have to watch
Speaker 1: out for. Easier said than done. It's a cliche at
Speaker 1: this point with mobile quarterbacks, but you got I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to keep him in the pocket. And that's
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I was talking about this with Brian this morning.
Speaker 1: Is like, this is what I want to see Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott do. This is the scheme that I want for Dak,
Speaker 1: and I hope the Cowboys can tailor and offense. It's
Speaker 1: more suited for him because Russell Wilson, he's a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: He can pass from the pocket. He's very accurate. They
Speaker 1: don't ask him to do it that much. They really don't,
Speaker 1: like they have a lot of read option concepts, Like
Speaker 1: they run most of their running game from the shotgun.
Speaker 1: He's always a threat to take the ball and that's
Speaker 1: something they got to watch out for in this game.
Speaker 1: But like they move the pocket, he rolls out. He
Speaker 1: does play action. You know, he does all the same
Speaker 1: stuff with bootlegs and waggles that Dack does. He's constantly
Speaker 1: on the move because he's better that way. The best
Speaker 1: throw a Dack's year was the one to Beasley the
Speaker 1: other day. Right, What was he doing? He was drifting.
Speaker 1: That's Wilson drifts and if you don't keep him contained,
Speaker 1: he'll kill you because that's how he's great throwing the
Speaker 1: ball and he can also run. So good luck Cowboys
Speaker 1: defensive ends. But you just got give me a quick
Speaker 1: pain refresher of what the Cowboys D line was able
Speaker 1: to do against him last time they faced him. I
Speaker 1: don't have he what like he was not He was
Speaker 1: honestly not amazing in that game. Like he made the
Speaker 1: throws that he needed to the big The backbreaker was
Speaker 1: the fifty two yarder to Tyler Lockett. He slipped right
Speaker 1: in between Cavan and Cheeto. You know, his stat's sixteen
Speaker 1: of twenty six two, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Running the ball,
Speaker 1: he was two for minus one, so he didn't really run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which game I do remember. That was the game that
Speaker 1: I think Heath was out for a little bit. Cavan
Speaker 1: had to come into play and they found Locket for
Speaker 1: a fifty two yards times. He picked on him immediately,
Speaker 1: you know. Going on, I was looking back to some
Speaker 1: of the snap counts and see if like how different
Speaker 1: some of the team that both teams are. You know,
Speaker 1: Vnderesh only played thirty three snaps in that game. It
Speaker 1: was the game League got hurt in and now he
Speaker 1: did play well. I remember that's the first time we're like, wow,
Speaker 1: Venders is actually playing really well. And other than the
Speaker 1: first two games where he wasn't starting and then he
Speaker 1: didn't start against the Redskins, you know up there. But
Speaker 1: since he's taken over, he's getting fifty fifty five fifty
Speaker 1: eight snaps a game. So this this, you know, that's
Speaker 1: the one thing that's different about what the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: doing is vander Reest just playing playing better. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the field a lot more. But that d
Speaker 1: line rotation was pretty much the same. It's encouraging. He
Speaker 1: carried two times for minus one. That's encouraging to think
Speaker 1: that they can keep him containing they did it in
Speaker 1: that instance. And to bring it back to Dak. The
Speaker 1: other thing that is really encouraging for me, Like people
Speaker 1: want to hate on Dak, they don't throw the ball
Speaker 1: that well. That's his average for the season. Seattle's averaging
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety three passing yards per game. Because again,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's a stut. He's he would play it at
Speaker 1: an MVP level last year, but he is taking a
Speaker 1: backseat to this running game because that's what they wanted,
Speaker 1: that's what they're good at, that's what they want to do.
Speaker 1: That's how they won those Super Bowls on offense, set
Speaker 1: up the run and let everything else flow through. That
Speaker 1: would and Russ just reliably makes the plays that he
Speaker 1: has to when he needs to. And he's even better
Speaker 1: like that because he doesn't have to do it the
Speaker 1: whole game. He just has those moments when if he
Speaker 1: catches you, he's gonna hit you for big play. And
Speaker 1: that's I'm use it the winner. I just I and
Speaker 1: I this is what I want to see Dak Prescott doing.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be really good at it. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see how many times how many what are the
Speaker 1: Seahawks ranking and rushing yard I mean one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty per game best in the league. First, Okay, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, because I mean to have three other
Speaker 1: players at four hundred yards on with eleven hundred yard back,
Speaker 1: I mean that's amazing. I mean Zeke sitting here at
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred led the league. But the next guy is
Speaker 1: Dak at three some three hundred, and then you got
Speaker 1: Rod Smith in one hundred and twenty seven and Heath
Speaker 1: has yards. I mean, goofy fund stat that if the
Speaker 1: goofy stat duje or last year was that Russ was
Speaker 1: the only player on the Seahawks that had a rushing touchdown.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a running back they have fifteen rushing
Speaker 1: touchdowns this year, which is actually more than Dallas, and
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has none. They're all running backs, so they
Speaker 1: committed to fixing that and they've done a good job
Speaker 1: of it. Um Another thing that I think is worth
Speaker 1: pointing out, where was it? This dead air is gonna? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sorry me to help me. I hate this that and
Speaker 1: I look at it a lot now. Opponent penalty yards.
Speaker 1: I don't know why this is a big deal. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys when they're playing the teams that they're playing get
Speaker 1: called for six hundred and eighty one penalty yards Seattle
Speaker 1: nine hundred and eighty one yards. Teams that are playing
Speaker 1: against him get and I and I really think all
Speaker 1: year long, every time I look at that stat, it's
Speaker 1: always very higher for the other team, which makes me think. Now,
Speaker 1: and I'm not getting into this all the league hates
Speaker 1: the Cowboys type stuff, but I'm just saying they're way
Speaker 1: under the league average on getting calls or whatever. I mean.
Speaker 1: We saw a game to Shire Philadelphia was called zero
Speaker 1: times and and loss at home. That's that's hard to do,
Speaker 1: so U I know it was brought to our attention today.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about who their officiating crew is,
Speaker 1: and it's the same same guy that did the Romosnap
Speaker 1: Bubble Snap game. Wonderful. Broad US will talk about do
Speaker 1: we want to even bring up that. It's like ten
Speaker 1: what is it, twelve years weekend since the Romo almost
Speaker 1: the day, Yeah, and one day if they'd played Sunday,
Speaker 1: it would have been to the day, which is I
Speaker 1: thought CBS might try to bring Romo back for that game.
Speaker 1: Oh God, Romo was probably like no. Yeah, He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. Oh, here's my movie beyond it,
Speaker 1: here's my dumb stat um. Dak has actually carried the
Speaker 1: ball more times than Russell Wilson has, Like that is
Speaker 1: just not something that I would think. But russ average
Speaker 1: is two more yards per ten. I think Russ is
Speaker 1: a little bit quicker, like he's faster than Jack is.
Speaker 1: But I still think there's a way to utilize Dak
Speaker 1: better in the running game. And that's I mean, a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff Russa does is improvised, just like and
Speaker 1: some of Dak's best stuff is improvised. But he can
Speaker 1: just hurt you so bad, you know, if if you
Speaker 1: you got to finish him off, because if you get
Speaker 1: there and he gets away from you, then that's eleven
Speaker 1: on ten and he's running for eighteen yards. And he
Speaker 1: does it in every single game apparently except for the
Speaker 1: Dallas game, which good. I hope they can do that
Speaker 1: again because that's like, like I said, you can do
Speaker 1: everything right and he'll still kill you, which is a bummer.
Speaker 1: Arizona blitzed him a lot. They sacked him six times
Speaker 1: just four days ago, so something to consider. We know
Speaker 1: that Rod Marinelli doesn't really like to blitz, but maybe
Speaker 1: in the interest of getting him on the ground, they'll
Speaker 1: consider it. Now. As far as turnovers go, we've known
Speaker 1: how this defense has had to carry the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: throughout the whole year. Is this something that you're seeing what?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you, thank you for reminding me. They've only
Speaker 1: turned the ball over ten times this year Seattle. Seattle
Speaker 1: best in the league, So anything's possible. But like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going into this game banking that the defense is
Speaker 1: going to steal a possession for you. So and that's big,
Speaker 1: that's really big. So if they can, great, But like,
Speaker 1: this is a tough team to get the ball from.
Speaker 1: Rush doesn't throw a lot. He threw a pick against Arizona, ironically,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't thrown a lot. I didn't realize he
Speaker 1: was doing that good. He's won't because he's not he's
Speaker 1: not having to carry everything in the way he did
Speaker 1: last year. So like he's having a really good season.
Speaker 1: But that's you know, he's got other people to help
Speaker 1: him out. But the thing to consider here too is
Speaker 1: Cowboys have played really good defense this year and won
Speaker 1: some games for this team without necessarily having a lot
Speaker 1: of turnovers. Like they're not at the top of the
Speaker 1: league when it comes to turnovers. So so I don't
Speaker 1: know the turnovers are how the Cowboys defense have to
Speaker 1: do it like they look No, the way I look
Speaker 1: at is this defense is about making stops and holding
Speaker 1: teams instead of getting touchdowns to field goals. That's that's
Speaker 1: what makes them really they haven't they haven't lived on
Speaker 1: getting turnovers all years. So that's fine. One of the things. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the offense played terrible in that game up in Seattle,
Speaker 1: but they gave up a fifty two yard touchdown, which
Speaker 1: has not been their m O. And the I mean
Speaker 1: so twenty four or thirteen and one of their touchdowns
Speaker 1: was defensive, was it not? When did an Earl scorer? No?
Speaker 1: In the week three he had two turnovers, right, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he's Oh, but he set them up
Speaker 1: like in the end. Yeah, but you can't give up
Speaker 1: the backbreaking and you gotta play your red zone game.
Speaker 1: It's what they've done on And we'll talk about the
Speaker 1: defense tomorrow. But I think that's where I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see because without Earl, and I think there's another safety
Speaker 1: they just put on. Ir. We'll talk a lot about
Speaker 1: that defense and what that defense looks like and what
Speaker 1: it even looks like over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: they've maybe lost a player or two. But yeah, So
Speaker 1: make sure to tune in tomorrow and kind of get
Speaker 1: a full scouting report and a good feeling of what
Speaker 1: this Seattle is bringing to a t and teeth. And
Speaker 1: we'll see you tomorrow for what's your name? Nicki, Nickimn,
Speaker 1: Derry Kingleton, David Hallman and Bergarcia. We'll be back tomorrow.
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