1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mollage Campus 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: in Burree, Ohio. Is Cleveland Brown's Daily on a fifty 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: e sp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: and Nathan Ziggura. Welcome into this special edition of Cleveland 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Brown's Daily. Merely bow here to guide you along the way, 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: and on today's episode, you are going to hear from 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: some of our coaches, including our head coach Kevin Stefanski 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: and and one thing I would say that since the 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: hire of Kevin Stefanski and his staff, not only have 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: you gotten the utmost and professionalism, you've gotten good dudes. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys have become great friends of 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: the program. We get excited every time we hear from 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Jason Tarver, Joe Woods, or Mike Preefer, Alex Van Pelt 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: chat o'sheay um. These are some of our favorite guys 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: to have on the show. And the one thing that 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: you feel absolutely about is that the Cleveland Browns are 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: gonna consistently be put in the very best position to 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: win by these coaches. This team is expertly coached, and 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: it also feels like, especially on the defensive side of 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: the ball. Talking to tar If talking to Joe Woods 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: that they have all of the weapons at their disposal 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: to run the defenses that they want to run at 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: the very highest level, and quite frankly, I think this 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: defense has a chance to be as good as any 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. With all of the acquisitions 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, everything has been building 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: towards this, and over the course of the next hour, 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: you will hear from Jason Tarber, you will hear from 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: Geore Woods on this program on the offensive side of 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the ball, you'll hear from Alex van Pelt, You'll hear 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: from chat O'shay on the wide receiver breakdown of that room. 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: Of course, you'll hear from Mike Priefer on the state 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: of the special teams as well, and of course we 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: will lead things off of the conversation of our head coach, 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski with z which took place just a couple 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: of weeks ago as we were wrapping up mandatory minicamp. 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you that this camp went incredibly smoothly, 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: and the anticipation of putting all of this stuff together 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: by the time we get to August is something that 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: everyone is very, very excited to do. And it's something 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: that I think is going to come through over the 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: course of this program. Here, so Kevin Stefanski is up next. 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: That conversation with z is coming up. You're listening to 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: a special edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily right here on 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: esp in Cleveland. Cleveland Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland. The 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: Bath Authority can give you that bathroom of your dreams 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: by friends. In fact, they can do it for you 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: in about a day. They can take it a your 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: current bath situation and give you a custom bath for 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: a spa like experience. It's a no brainer. 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Yeah, I thought it was great. I really did. 70 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, as coaches, we want to coach, We want 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: to be out there on the field with the guys. 72 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: We wanna be around them, we want to teach them 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: the systems. Uh. And and I thought the guys did 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: an awesome job. That they really did, And and we 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: structured it in a way where we wanted to get 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: our work done, but we wanted to do it in 77 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: a safe way. And we wanted to compete, but we 78 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: wanted to compete in a safe way. And and I 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: think the coaches and the players did just a really 80 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: really nice job of every single day working and having fun. 81 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: And I think you can do both before we get 82 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: into the work. And we'll talk about the work that 83 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: you saw and you know where you're feeling with this 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: team right now. But let's just talk about the fact that, 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to Anthony Walker Jr. And 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: he says, it's the first time in three years, and 87 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: obviously he was with the Colts for one of those, 88 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: but the whole team has been in the locker room. 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: How different has that been? And how is the chemistry? 90 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: And everybody keeps talking about how this team is closer 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: and you're getting to see it, I'm sure, but just 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: getting to be together. Yeah, it's so simple sounding, and 93 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: I think all of us kind of went through uh 94 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: COVID related things and in all of our lives, and 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: the masks and and sitting, you know, spacing out from people, 96 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: and just to walk into that locker room and seeing everybody, 97 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, locker to locker and and elbow to elbow, uh, 98 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: and seeing people actually have share a meal together in 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the meal room. All these little things, uh that end 100 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: up being a big thing. And I just think we 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: as in this building, certainly all of the other buildings 102 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: and where we are hopefully as as a world, just 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: being around each other and being able to share those 104 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: things with each other, which just weren't possible the last 105 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: couple of years. All right, So let's get now onto 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: the field, because off the field, it does feel like 107 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: there's a special camaraderie building amongst this team and a 108 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: unity and a lot of the players talked about and 109 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: you hit on it just there. But on the field, 110 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: this was a passing camp. That's what you kind of 111 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: called this O T A s and the mini camp, 112 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: and we got Joel back and so you really saw 113 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: everybody out there for the first time. But the focus 114 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: is really on those seven on seven periods. What did 115 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: you see in those periods? Yeah, So to that point, Nathan, there, 116 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: it was a passing camp because that's how the rules 117 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: are structured. You just you can't run the ball. You 118 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: can't have one on one drills, which are fun, but 119 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: when you don't have pads on, they're prohibited. Uh So 120 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: we just want to be smart about what we do. 121 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: So seven on seven that is the best drill that 122 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: you can get done in the structure. I think it 123 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: also fit in what we're trying to accomplish as a team. 124 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: We wanted to get better in the past game on offense, 125 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: we want to be better at defending the past on defense. 126 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 1: So we were able in the course of every single 127 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: one of these O t as in minicamp to have 128 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: to seven on seven periods each day, and we we 129 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: focused on third and fourth down and the red zone. 130 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: And I think for me and for us, you achieve 131 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: what you emphasize. So we felt like, all right, we 132 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: got to get better in the past game offense, defense, 133 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: We have to get better in these certain situations. So 134 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: let's let's just get in the red zone day one. 135 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Let's have a fourth down period day one, and stayed 136 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: with that throughout so that the guys understand and we 137 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: were explicit about this. Here are the areas that we 138 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: want to get better, and here's how we're gonna do it. Well, 139 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: you talk about situational football, those are the plays. Those 140 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: are the there's a reason third down is the money 141 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: down in the NFL. There's a reason why you have 142 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: quote unquote a four point play in the red zone. 143 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: The difference between a touchdown and kicking a field goal, 144 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: those are the differences between winning and losing. And obviously 145 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: that's probably why he chose emphasize exactly right, and not 146 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: to say that first and ten from the minus isn't important. 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: It is because those normal sounds, uh, they come up 148 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: a lot. They come up the most in football. But 149 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the leverage, the high leverage points on that fourth and 150 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: three on that third and goal from the six, those 151 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: are just huge place. So the more we can work 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: concepts as an offense and get comfortable, the more we 153 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: as a defense can roll our coverages and mix coverages 154 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: and move people around. I think it just makes us 155 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: a more complete team. Now, having said all that, you know, 156 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: it's we have a mile to go, and we'll take 157 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: a break here and get back for training camp and 158 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: we'll get back to work. But we wanted early in 159 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: this program to make it known where we feel like 160 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: we need to get better. Right, you are out there, 161 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: you're on the walkie talkie, you're talking to your quarterbacks, 162 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: talking to Sean, getting the plays in in the seven 163 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: on sevens. But you're the head coach of this football team, 164 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: where you please. It felt like a very even battle, 165 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: and not because one side was better, but because you 166 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: had two very good sides going head to head day 167 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: after day. And that's competition. That's what I love. And 168 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: and you're right, I am calling the play into the office. 169 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: But when we make a great play on defensive fires 170 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: me up just the same. And and there were some 171 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: incredible defensive moments for us in this offseason program. I thought, 172 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, when you're having a passing camp and you're 173 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: in a seven on seven drill, the advantages to the offense. 174 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: There's no pass rush. Now, obviously we want to get 175 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: the ball out. You can't hold the ball forever as 176 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But it's advantage. It's an advantage offense drill. 177 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: And the defense has that mentality of they understand that 178 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: and they still want to stop the offense. Uh. And 179 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: I thought, particularly that back end, a bunch of those 180 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: young guys had a really really strong showing that they 181 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: were around the ball. They made players in the ball, UH, 182 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: they were assignment sound. And I think it it shapes 183 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: up for when we get back to really double down 184 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: on some of the things we're doing. And let's just 185 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: talk about that d in the back end for a second. 186 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: Denzel's back, you know, Greedy's back, Greg is back, A J. 187 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: Green is back, Herb Miller is back, and of course 188 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: he inserted m. J Emerson. Then and you go in 189 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: your safe room, your top three safeties from yougo, we're 190 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: all back, John Grant, Ronnie Richly count back as well. 191 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: The continuity there, and then in your linebacker room, you 192 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: know you look at and say, hey, Walk is back, 193 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips is back, j Okay is back, Cocks back, 194 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: the continuity there. It just felt like they were a 195 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: well oil machine. To your point, and seven on seven, 196 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: it's not often that you see the ball not even 197 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: be able to come out at times, and part of 198 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: it's because of what they did back there. I bet 199 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: you're happy that this is this is a back seven. 200 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about come games, and I 201 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: think it's gonna prepare you pretty well for real games. Yeah, 202 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: without a doubt. And you know, to to that point 203 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: number one, with the pass rush that we hope to 204 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: have and have, the ball comes out quickly versus us 205 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: people don't hold the ball very often, so it's important 206 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: for us to be sticky and coverage and be covering 207 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: our guys knowing that that ball is coming out. And 208 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: I think the guys understand that, and Joe and the 209 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: defensive staff are working very hard, uh to as we 210 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: design our defense to to you know, being attacking defense 211 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: also taking away what teams are doing. But to your 212 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: first point about continuity. You know last year, going into 213 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: last year, we have the same we're for very blessed 214 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: unfortunate to have the same coaches, but we had so 215 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: many new players. What I'm excited about going into this 216 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: year is you have those same coaches into year three 217 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: and you have all those most of those same players 218 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: going into that year three as well, and I think 219 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: that's where you can really take off. All Right, I'll 220 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: single a guy because I know it's not typically your style, 221 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: but it just felt like Grant Delpit and I realized 222 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: it's his third year, but it's really like being a 223 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: rookie laster going into your second year. It feels like 224 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: he has taken a huge leap in his ability to 225 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: see the field, break on the ball. We saw him 226 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: get his hands on the ball a couple of picks 227 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: as well. In this camp. What have you seen from 228 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: Granted and kind of just the way that you know 229 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: that group is just working together. Yeah, it really pleased 230 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: with grants development. And as we all know, he kind 231 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: of had that lost year, so I count him as 232 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: a rookie last year, so it's almost like he's a 233 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: sophomore this year. So excited about the gains that he's 234 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: made both physically mentally, just his ability to play in 235 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: our defense. He can play the half field, he can 236 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: play the post, he can play down brings a lot 237 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: of versatilities of what we're doing. But he had a 238 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: really really strong camp and I think it starts with he. 239 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: He came in an incredible shape. He's working really really 240 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: hard in the weight room, and that's such a big 241 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: piece of this and not to lose sight of that 242 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: is these guys. Everything we do in the meeting room 243 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: is important. Everything we do on the field is important, 244 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: but part of it is also worked down in the 245 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: weight room. And the work that these guys do uh 246 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: down there is vitally important to our success. Let's slip 247 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: it over to the offensive side. And obviously a lot 248 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: to be excited about there, and it starts with your quarterback. 249 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: To Shaun Watson, it's one thing to go out and 250 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: to trade form. It's one thing to watch his past tape. 251 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: It's another thing now to have gone through you know, 252 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: the ten o t a s the three days of 253 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: minicamp with him. What have you learned about your quarterback 254 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: and how is that going to allow you to operate 255 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: this offense in two. Yeah, I think that all is 256 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: a process. So when you know, when we first meet 257 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: with de Shawn, it was all right, let's find out 258 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: what he's comfortable, let's watch the tape, let's talk ball. Uh. 259 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: And then as you get through phase one and phase two, 260 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: you're really in meetings and then you're on air on 261 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: the practice field, and again it's just trying this. Hey 262 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: you like this, we can also do this. It's just 263 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: it's always constantly evolving and moving. And then as you 264 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: get into these practices, now you're getting live reps and 265 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: we with those seven on sevens that we mentioned earlier, 266 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: we wrapped the same play over and over and over. 267 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: You do it from the right hash, you do it 268 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: from the left hash, you do it at a twelve personnel, 269 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: you do it out of eleven personnel, just so that 270 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: it becomes wrote memory for all the guys, but particularly quarterback. 271 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: So it's quarterback. So it's been important for us in 272 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: this process to constantly tinker, evolve, uh, and then eventually 273 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: get to and and hang our hat on what we 274 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: feel like we will be moving forward. But that that 275 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: is a process, and it's it's been some incredible meetings 276 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: down there with with that room, It's been some really 277 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: good tape to watch with those guys. So I think 278 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: we had a lot of banked reps from this offseason 279 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: that will that will carry with us into training camp. 280 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: When you have a guy who is an easy thrower 281 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: and it just looks it does it. It's an easy 282 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: throw and it's quick, is released time to throw to 283 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: the ball being out is quick? How does that change, 284 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: if anything, for you as a play caller and what 285 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: you can do conceptually? Yeah, there there are certain things 286 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: that Deshaun does in his game you mentioned with that 287 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: quick release. It does allow you to have some whether 288 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: you call them r p O or quicker hitting things 289 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: or quicker hitting play actions. A lot of times in 290 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: the empty game the ball comes out, can come out quick, 291 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: and you can also hold it uh and have some 292 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: deeper shot type mentalities. But it is I've been around 293 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that have that ability, and it's 294 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: it's really beneficial where you can you can put the 295 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: ball in the belly of a running back and then 296 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: spit it out to the other side as well. All right, 297 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: just because it was a fun play and people were 298 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: talking and you did it on a day when the 299 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: media was there, so obviously you didn't mind people seeing it. 300 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: But if I'm not mistaken, it looked like a kind 301 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: of an inside fake too to Chub and then you 302 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: could have run. I think he handed it to Chubb 303 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: on the play, but you could have run like almost 304 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: a triple option with the Shawan and Kareem as his wing. 305 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: There is that kind of some of the stuff you're 306 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: able to do with a quarterback who can move like that. Yeah, 307 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there's really no shortage of those type of things. 308 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Uh And you know, I think once we get to 309 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: playing games, we will hone in on on what we 310 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: want to be and what we want to look like 311 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: in those type of things. But there's no shortage who 312 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: plays in the NFL in football. Uh And and that's 313 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: the the difficult part when you're on the defensive side 314 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: is trying to you can't stop everything. As a as 315 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: a defensive coach, you can. You can. You're gonna avoid, 316 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna play cover three, you're gonna avoid the flats, 317 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna say, okay, we'll rally and make 318 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: the tackle. Uh So, for us offensively, the flip side 319 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: of that coin is we want to be multiple enough 320 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: to make ourselves difficult to defend. So, yes, there are 321 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: there some option things you can do. You can do 322 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: all of it. There's there's no shortage. So we've gotta 323 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: hone in on the things that we want to be 324 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: good at. So Chief gets the big deal. He's the man. 325 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: I know you're excited about it. I thought he did 326 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: a nice job at the stadium yesterday, especially in that 327 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: red zone. A couple of touchdown passes. That's a hook 328 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: up that looks like it could be a big one. 329 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: How do you see his role expanding now that he 330 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: is kind of a guy and and in an offense 331 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: where it does feel like the ball is going back 332 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: to the middle of the field quite a bit, and 333 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: that's where he lives. Yeah, I think, you know, we're 334 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: really fortunate to have Dave and Harrison are guys that 335 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, they both have different skill sets. I mean, 336 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: everybody knows Dave is a big body that can run 337 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: in those teams and can go elevate and pluck the ball. 338 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: But I think what's so exciting about Dave is as 339 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: a young player, we've seen his game develop with my 340 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: time with him. Uh, you know, I'm not saying this 341 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: is credit to me in anyway. It's credit to Dave 342 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: and the coaches. But he's developed into one of the 343 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: best blocking tight ends in the game, and that just 344 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. So to see his game take a step 345 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: in that area, I have no doubt that it can 346 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: take steps in other areas. And it's a matter of 347 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: get of working and to get it done. But I 348 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: do think Dave as a young player has room to grow, 349 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: uh and and he he knows that, and I've told 350 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: him that and he feels the same way. But with 351 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: him and Harrison are certainly we're excited about those guys 352 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: and how we expand our offense and change a little 353 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: bit of what we're doing. I think Amor has been 354 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: exactly what you expected to be. Tremendous, route runner, catches everything, 355 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: consummate professional. But this receiver room, there's a lot of 356 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: new faces or current faces that you need to elevate 357 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: DPJ shworts you draft David Bell. Felton's even getting some 358 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: work in there with the slot. I thought Michael Wood 359 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: has been kind of impressive in the way that he delongs, 360 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: strides and gets on his dbs. What have you seen 361 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: from these young guys in the past game and anybody 362 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: who's kind of really started to take the strides that 363 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: have you very encouraged. Yeah, you know, they all did 364 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: a nice job. And I think really the opinion that 365 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: matters the most is the quarterback room. And they like 366 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: throwing to these guys. That's that's really important. So I 367 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: think each one of these guys, uh, had the quarterbacks 368 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: trust them. I think they have traits. You know, you 369 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: think around the league and there there's some great, great 370 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: past receivers. Uh, And for us, we're really really excited 371 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: about the room in total. Uh. You mentioned Amari As 372 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: as a guy that's been so productive, and he is, 373 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, the elder datesman in a really young room, 374 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: but he is just a prose pro. So to watch 375 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: him operate and he certainly has the trust of the quarterback. 376 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: But do you look at all those young guys. I 377 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: really feel strongly that we have some important traits in 378 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: that room, and I do think they're all getting better. 379 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: Did you tell your dad to stay away from Jacoby 380 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: Brissette after the shooting display that he put on at 381 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: the Calves facility. Yeah, Jacoby, So my dad was in 382 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: town last week brought him down to the Hall of 383 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: Fame with us so we can watch practice and kind 384 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: of hang out with the guys. And he did talk 385 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: to Jacoby. Jacoby's angling for that ten day contract. I 386 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: bet he is. He tried to get the calves. He 387 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: tried to get Kobe Altman and JB to sign him 388 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: last week when we're down there the calves and now 389 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: he's working on the pistons. So he's trying, and I 390 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: will give him credit. He does have a pretty sweet stroke. Yeah, 391 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: it looked very pure, very pure, real quickly special teams, 392 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: a lot of overhaul there. This is your first chance 393 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: to get a look at those guys. And I know 394 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: we can't really do the returns and with Jachim and 395 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: the coverage, but you can get the fundamentals down. But 396 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: one then we can watch is kat York the football. 397 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: And I think the one from fifty yesterday was good. 398 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: From seventy with everybody screaming and hooting and hollerand at him, 399 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: what do you kind of make of your young kicker 400 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: and just kind of the punning competition and overall teams 401 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: in general. Yeah, I think Cade has done a really, 402 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: really nice job this spring and every opportunity he's gotten 403 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: a kick, whether it's here in a team setting or 404 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: going down to the stadium as the battery of Charlie 405 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: and the holders. I think he's done a nice job. 406 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna work really hard. I think he's 407 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: a talented young kid. Uh. And and we're excited about 408 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: the future with him. Uh. You know, he's gonna miss 409 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: a kick, It's that's kind of the nature of that position. Um, 410 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: but we're excited about where he is physically and mentally. Alright, 411 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: any plans for the summer, I do. I have lots 412 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: of plans. I'm not gonna share him with you, but 413 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: now now I'm just kidding. We'll be with the family, 414 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: will be here for a couple of weeks. Kids are 415 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: in about a thousand camps, so I'm you know, driving 416 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: everybody driving Miss Daisy right now. And then we'll get 417 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: away from here. We'll get down the shore, which is 418 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: kind of our happy place down in the Jersey Shore 419 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, and then recharge that battery 420 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: and get ready to go. I can see out there, 421 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: not that beautiful beaches. Happy Father's Day, appreciate it. What's 422 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: a perfect Father's Day looked like for you you as well. Uh, 423 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: perfect father's day. Uh, A nap with some golf on 424 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: is probably where it where it ends. Um, but we'll 425 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: hang out. It's you know, with my kids. Uh, anything 426 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: you get to do with them is a bonus. So 427 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: whether it's a baseball game or going out to breakfast 428 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: or going to church, whatever it is, we'll make sure 429 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: we're having some fun. Alright, Couch, thanks so much for 430 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: the time, and enjoy your summer. And I know that 431 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: you will enjoy that. But I'm sure you can't wait 432 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: to get back here and get started on this season. Yeah, 433 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: we're excited about it. We'll take this break and I 434 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: think we've all earned it and then uh, we'll get 435 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: ready to go come July. Coming up next to the 436 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: special edition to Cleveland Brown's Daily, our conversation with Jason Tarver. 437 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: You're listen to CBD on eight fifty esp in Cleveland. 438 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily on eight ESPN Cleveland. There's lots of 439 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: bad advice out there about gambling, from secret methods to 440 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: picking lottery numbers to betting big. When you're on a 441 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: roll in the miss can lose your money and get 442 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: you in a lot of trouble. 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Man? 452 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: I'm great? How are you guys? You don't even need 453 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: those That's right, you don't even need him. You're great. 454 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: You look great. Why are you so happy today to 455 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: go on the field? Ye get to go on the 456 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: field first day of the year. It's absolutely beautiful out. 457 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Somebody imported the weather from California, so it is it 458 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: is very much, very much like the home. No out 459 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: about that. You know. We had Taki in here, what 460 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: just a couple of days ago? Was it? Yes? No, no, 461 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: yeah it was it was because I was off on Thursday. 462 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: I think he has got this new thing coach. He 463 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: took off yesterday to play golf, and he's presented a 464 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: very compelling case. The taking off a random Thursday is 465 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: maybe underrated and ought to be the play because Wednesday 466 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: now feels like Friday. Wednesday was like Friday night. I 467 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: got a free Saturday in the middle of the week 468 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: was Thursday. He works today and now he's right here too. 469 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm as happy as you are to be here today. Yeah, 470 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: we got players in the building one number one. That 471 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: must be nice. It was quite nice and some weeks earlier, 472 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: but he said he's grinding. He'd called me tough as 473 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: nails because no matter what goes on, because I got 474 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: my neck going and stuff, I'm still throwing drills. Just 475 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: that's what he said, right. Yeah, he came and told me. 476 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I think he was trying to get Browning points or something. 477 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: He put you over pretty big there. But how are 478 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Yeah, I can spending. I'm incredibly accurate. 479 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: I just don't have a at arms space. I'm like 480 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: that quarterback that's really accurate, you know. But I got 481 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: the deep ball. Better get up early. You're not throwing 482 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: twenty yard digs. You're just but you're accurate. I've been 483 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: rehabing by pitching a lot of wiper balls and baseballs 484 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: to my kids, So okay, that's how. But I still 485 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: don't have you know, I can grow it at my 486 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: crow Hop laser that I sat from shortstop, you know. 487 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: So we building towards that. Yeah, yeah, there's the only 488 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: I've only been able to do um lifting and throwing 489 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: for a few weeks, so I'm just getting started. So yeah, 490 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm being real careful, which is hard for me. Yeah, 491 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: you know. I like to get in the weight room 492 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: like sure, like you know who down here at the 493 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: end of the it's fired up I when I see him, 494 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: and then we both get all pumped up. And right 495 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: now I can't we're gonna start throwing weights. Oh yeah, 496 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: right now, I can't go quite that. I gotta be 497 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: cautious and careful, which is very hard for me to do. 498 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: So I think we're all old enough. I don't see 499 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: any reason how there isn't a Hans and Fronds spin 500 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: off that you get all the way back we're on 501 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: the radio there, see those golf muscles? Are you get 502 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: that big day off? He gets, Tam gets his muscles. 503 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: It's really accentuates the build, doesn't was it? What type 504 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: of juice that get Getting all the guys in here, 505 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: these this rookie class in here that we saw him 506 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: come in on the bus, it's such a monster moment 507 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, it's really neat. It's it's really really 508 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: cool because they come in and they're so far energy, 509 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: especially our defensive tackle from Oklahoma as we all saw 510 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: it now he's famous for. But um, their eyes are 511 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: so bright, and it's just awesome to watch the youth, 512 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: the excitement and you know, everything's new. To watch him 513 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: experience things that are new and exciting, it's so it's 514 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: so cool watch them interact together, watch him interact with us. 515 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, see who's gonna be able to continue the 516 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: juice as we get the camp because it gets harder, 517 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: which is awesome. Um, So yeah, it's exciting to have 518 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: him in the building. This offseason has been exciting because 519 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: most of our guys have been here the entire time, 520 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: so really for us this staff, since we've been here, 521 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: with all the things we've been doing with you know, 522 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: in the country, this is our first time you really 523 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: have a full season with our veterans so it's been awesome, 524 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: like the time with the one that's a good example. 525 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: Or Jacob Philpi looks great right now, grinding big as strong, 526 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: knock on wood, everything, he looks great. Jeremiah's moving well, 527 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: Jeremiah's got a great feel for the defense right now. Um, 528 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: just just that the first to second off season it's 529 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: really where guys can make a jump, because that's when 530 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I really understand this call, or I 531 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: now I get it, coach, I understand that when it's 532 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: covered two, I get to do this or whatever it is. 533 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: It's yeah, he looks great too. Hey, walks and a 534 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: walk was in great shape last year. That isn't even 535 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: better shape. It's awesome. And they're competing everywhere everywhere they go. 536 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: Everything they do, you the meetings is a little like 537 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: this to see who can you know? I asked a 538 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: question to the group and there it's like they're ready 539 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: to hit the buzzer on jepar. Yeah, but they just 540 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: yell it out and then because we I mean, if 541 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: you mess up at a meeting, that's when you should 542 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: say what's then we can fix it, right because then 543 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: by the time around the field, you're aggressively speaking. Actually 544 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: gotta we're gonna the cold, so we're aggressive when we 545 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: get on the field. So I like the meetings that way, 546 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: where everybody's chiming in. And then if I ever need 547 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: a directed question, I can always just go, hey, where 548 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: do we close the defense here? And then directed Tony 549 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: to a younger guy or wherever. So I'll get ready. 550 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: I'll get ready, But then I give him a direct question, 551 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, and the veteran's you know, because I want 552 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: to be first. What I love about you is how 553 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: much you just love ball. You love the process, you 554 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: love coaching, all of that. I do. I like coming 555 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: in here and knocking on the window and getting myself 556 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: in the radio. What is your thoughts on talkies? What 557 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: he's doing here? The hair, first we've seen it, beautiful 558 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: was Wednesday, first we've seen it. I'm excited for one. 559 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: I tell him all the time. I'm jealous. I wish 560 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: I could still do that. Okay, I wish I could. 561 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: I wish I could get that long hair, you know, 562 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: because the long hair hanging out of your helmet when 563 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: you're covering the kickoff, try to get somebody is awesome. Okay, 564 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: So it's great, but he's got some hair competition. Now 565 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: our rookie free agent Silas Kelly. Oh yeah, you guys 566 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: gotta gotta check this. This is he's he's approaching you know, 567 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: per plus commercials, Carolina. Yeah, you gotta. He's Some of 568 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: our rookies have some cool hair game. I will say that, 569 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: all right, you know, all right, yeah, so we we 570 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: only have one uh free agent. Now we can talk 571 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: because sign Yeah, he's got some awesome hair. Yeah, you 572 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: put it up there. It is sorry y'all, Sorr. I 573 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: mean it's a little bit of Marty Janetty baby. Yeah. 574 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's a flowing mullet. It appears to me 575 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: a flowing it's kind of John Rambo. Might be a 576 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: little John Rambo mullet. Yeah. He's when they when they 577 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: brought him back, you had to go get him out, 578 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: not one not first blood to when he went back. Wow, 579 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: that's incredible. How that are you for this defense this 580 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: year and especially think about your room the continue do 581 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: you just mentioned the guys that have been here now 582 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: second year for some of them, third year with you 583 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: for others. The guys on the back behind your group, right, 584 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: the principal players are back seven of your top eight 585 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: dvs from a year ago. Back for example, the first 586 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: time we do certain drills on the defense drops for 587 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: cover three or whatever, they all know it. In the 588 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: first time we did it in camp, after being off 589 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: for whatever times it is, it was the best we 590 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: ever did it, if that makes sense, because we have 591 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: that recognition in the back end at back seven, we 592 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: have that collective memory now, so it's like they all 593 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: know the drill and now they're competing to try to 594 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: do it perfect, like who can break the fastest, who 595 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: can get from point A to point be the fastest. 596 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: And then if somebody ever messes up, they they all 597 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: know that it is and then they tease them and 598 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: then we get better. And that's what's really cool is 599 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: is we're able to go, hopefully go. We always started 600 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: to steppence. What you do is coaches, because you gotta 601 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: you gotta refresh and relearn first. But then when you 602 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: can get to the next steps quicker and still keep 603 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: your technique, still keep your fundamentals, get back, set up, 604 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: break when the quarterback throws the ball, that's what we're 605 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: going for. So that's already occurred faster. That's exciting, that's 606 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: really exciting. And that's what you really like as a coach, 607 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: is you like to see that we're continuing to get 608 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: better and we're picking up even further than we left off. 609 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: Is a way to say it, you know what mentioned 610 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: itsentially like you said, like you're this staff has never 611 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: been able to be in front of these guys like this, 612 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: like without mass, without all that stuff. He was. You 613 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: can't even wrap your head around the difference between looking 614 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: through a computer and trying to learn versus being in 615 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: a room and being near a coach, and for a 616 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: coach to be able to see facial expression, the type 617 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: of learning that he's doing, even veteran, is so much 618 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: more effective than than what it's been the last couple 619 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: of years. And how much difficult it was. It's really 620 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: remarkable that the whole league put the product on the 621 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: field that it did in the circumstances we were all under. 622 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: A completely I will say c only did a heck 623 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: of a job learning, and because his jump from the 624 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: first year or here to last year was better in 625 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: everything that he did, so he did a nice job 626 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: on that. But yeah, it's a lot more fun to 627 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: walk in the room and go, hey, Jacob what do 628 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: you look at last night? And he tells you, I've 629 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: read the notes, I did this, I did this, I 630 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: did this, I go so you feel pretty prepared today, okay, 631 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: and then to be able to make the quick corrections 632 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: and it live because you do. You pick up everything, 633 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: because really you learn with all five senses. You learn 634 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: with everything that's going on, and you don't get all 635 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: five senses over zoom. We tried, you know, I put 636 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: funny videos in between things. I jump around quickly, you know, 637 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: trying to make it like movie cut scenes, like not 638 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: too long on the same side, just so that you 639 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: know you're not staring at a zoom screen or whatever. 640 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: It is too long at one thing, even though the 641 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: point made me the most important point there might be, 642 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, something jumping out of water, chasing somebody next 643 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: to make sure, and then I go back and hit 644 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: the point again, just to those are you know, you 645 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: get We got better at it, you know, because that 646 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: was what we were doing. So you wanted to be 647 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: the best you can at anything. So now we get 648 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: we get better at it. Did you think about this too? 649 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: Anytime we talked to somebody who played the thing that 650 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: they missed the most is the hang it's hanging out 651 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: with the fellas. It's it's you know, we use locker room. 652 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: It's not just the locker room. It's the camaraderie of it. 653 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: It stands for the camaraderie. And that was something that 654 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: was taken away a bit. You do the best you can, 655 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: team build, but that was taken away a bit, and 656 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: now you got it all back. I would say, it's 657 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: all the way. I'd say, it's me walking by you 658 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: guys coming in here. It's everything. It's it's being around. 659 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: This is special. These are We're all special and lucky 660 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: people that we get to do this. I'm very, very 661 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: very fortunate, lucky I get to walk in and talk 662 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: to you guys. I'm gonna go in thirty minutes. I'mnna 663 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: start on the field with the rookie for their second Walter. 664 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: It's awesome. It's very privileged, feel honored, and and we 665 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: just that feeling. I mean, I mean, I can't even 666 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: talk right now. I love that feeling and the guys. 667 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: So it's great. All right, before we let you go, 668 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: because I know you've got to get out there and 669 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: this is great. You're right, like Talkie for example, hadn't 670 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: been in the studio since two thousand nineteen. No, he 671 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: was in with us. He was here that first weekend 672 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: he was drafted. He came in with you and and 673 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: we had and we and then we had a bunch 674 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: of a times and then not nothing for two years. Yeah, 675 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: it didn't seem for two years. It's so nice to 676 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: get to have us. But I wanted to tell you, guys, 677 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: So I was just out there. I interviewed some of 678 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: the rookies. We're gonna play a David Bell, Alex Rights 679 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: tough with Isaiah Thomas as well. Great young kids, by 680 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: the way, all of them very impressive young kids. But 681 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: Alex Wright was wearing this year's bucket hat already. We're 682 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: big bucket het guys. I've never seen you in the 683 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: buckett your advisor, but this year's bucket is gorgeous. And 684 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: all the hats are all a camo. That is a black, white, 685 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: gray brown camo. And the bucket is that way. Your 686 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: advisor is gonna be that way, because that's that's an 687 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: old saluted service one. It is. I'm nervous year I've 688 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: ever seen I'm nervous. Why are you It's unbelievable. I 689 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: just don't We're not. We have not had a great 690 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: relationship with with that world. That's that's bad. So I 691 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: just you know, I did be jealous seeing this great 692 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: stuff walk through and then we're never able to get 693 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: our hands on it. Yeah, we need the bucket. It's 694 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: a good bucket. Had season. We'll be here before we 695 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: know it. Absolutely, there's a lot of room in here. 696 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, Brad could make a little present, but in 697 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: the corner for you guys, you know, and that's why 698 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: you're the bout. Thanks for stop. All right, good, let's go. 699 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: Coming up next to this special edition of Plee the 700 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Browns Daily, our conversation with Joe Woods from Brown's minicamp. 701 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to a special edition of CBD on a 702 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland, Browns, Daies B and Cleveland Welcome 703 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: back into this special edition of Plee the Browns Daily 704 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: and now our conversation with Joe Woods from Brown's minicamp. 705 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: Coach to have a nice full offseason, something you haven't 706 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: had here in your three years in Cleveland. What's that 707 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: been like for you, your staff and your players. It's 708 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: a new experience. We were talking about that earlier. Um, 709 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: it's nice to have all the guys back at the 710 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: beginning of off season. We can take them through as 711 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: one phase two, really install our system, take them through 712 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: the drill work, and then everything's finalized here about what 713 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: you do in mandatory mini camps. So it's been good 714 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: to have all the guys here. And what has this 715 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: can been kind of your evaluation of the progress of 716 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: this defense over the course of this offseason. I think 717 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: the progress is good. Um, you know, the way we're 718 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: doing off season, we're not doing a lot of banging 719 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: this in terms of being physical, and I think that's smart, 720 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: is keeping guys healthy. But I think it's been good 721 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: in terms of learning our base defense. And that's why 722 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: I talked to the guys actually about today, is just 723 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: learn our defensive concepts. As long as we learn our concepts, 724 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: then when we get the training camp, we can make 725 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: the little tweaks that we need to it. All right, 726 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: this has been pretty much a passing camp, but for 727 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: the offensive side talking about that, but listen, it's a 728 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: passing leak, so that means great work for your defense. 729 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, there's a lot of iron sharpening 730 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: Iron out there your back seven. I think it has 731 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: been phenomenal this offseason. What have you seen when you 732 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: put on the tape and look at those guys? I 733 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: agree with everything you said. Um for me being a 734 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: DV guy, UM, just the opportunity to go out there 735 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: and match up against some really good receivers. Denzel's had 736 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: great work against Sam Marii, Cooper, you know, Schwartz, just 737 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: with the speed Denzel's matched up against him, but all 738 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: across the board, whether it's a receiver tight end as 739 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: this premium matchups every day, So it's been really good 740 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: for us. All Right, let's start with the linebackers, because 741 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: one the guy that I can't take my eyes off 742 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: of Jacob Phillips. And I know j Ok has been great, 743 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Walker has been great as well, But it feels 744 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: like Jacob Phillips is on a path to really ascend 745 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: this year if he can stay healthy. He's got the ability, 746 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: he needs to have the availability. What have you seen 747 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: from him and is he something that you do have 748 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: big plans for? Yeah, I definitely have big plans for Jacob. Um. 749 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: He's a guy. Since we first got him here, you 750 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: could see that he had the right mindset that we're 751 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: looking for is at linebacker. Um, he's a leader in 752 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: the huddle. You know, he's not afraid to uh tell 753 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: the veteran guys that listen up and you can see 754 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: him taking control out here. And he's a guy to 755 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: run sideline. The sideline, he has a size and length. 756 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's made some plays based on that, wearing 757 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: his own coverage. But I look forward to him having 758 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: a great year. And next to him has been j Okay, 759 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,959 Speaker 1: how's he kind of progressed here in your number two? 760 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: He's doing well. I think when you come back you're 761 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: set in years or rookie, you're more familiar with the system. 762 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: So some of the things that we asked him to do, 763 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: he is more familiar with. I think the execution is 764 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: much better. And for me it's a it's a positive 765 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: because now I can put a little bit more on 766 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: his plate. All right, So we talked a little bitbout 767 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: those guys a waka a veteran we know talk they 768 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: played very well for you. Let's go to the outside 769 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: in the cornerback room, because this is one of the 770 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: strengths of this football team, without question. You know, talked 771 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: about Denzel. We know who he is. He just got 772 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: paid and deservedly so. But Craig knew some the guy. 773 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: Every time I'm out here, I say to myself, this 774 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: guy's a chance. But I think one of the best 775 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: corners in the league period inside outside, versatility and just 776 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: seems to be in command out there. You talked about 777 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: Jacob talking to guys. Greg's always talking guys said, hey, 778 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: you gotta do this, do this, and he's he look, 779 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: he's looked pretty darn good. Yeah, in this league, you 780 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: have to have corners to play. When you can go 781 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: match up against you know, elite receivers in this league 782 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: and play single high defense, it's an advantage. And you 783 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: know you mentioned Denzel. We all know what Denzel is 784 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: capable of doing. We saw it last season and then 785 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: he saw Greg in his rookie season. He has some 786 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: premium matchups to get some of the better receivers in 787 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: this league and he played really well. Uh. He also 788 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: has a versatility to move inside. So it just helps 789 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: us with the creativity with our package. And then what 790 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: Greedy did last year when guys went down and uh, 791 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: now we had the young guys. Martin Emerson, a j 792 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: Greene stepped into play. But you know, from the corner position, 793 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: we're we're loaded. We have a bunch of good players, 794 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: and that's gonna help us this year. Play defense that 795 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: gives you a lot of flexibility. Use three of them, 796 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: use four of them if you want whatever you want 797 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: to do to confuse the coverage agenda. Also because you 798 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: can run with anybody out there and you go back 799 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: to Phillips and Ja. Okay, there's just so much length 800 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: and speed. You mentioned Greed that I've noticed no shoulder 801 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: harness this year. He seems to be more comfortable out 802 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: there with his body and has had a very nice camp. Yeah, 803 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: Greedy's definitely healthier this year. I mean, he fought through 804 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: it last year and did a great job. But now 805 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: you can tell he's in good spirits. Uh, technically he's 806 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: made some improvements that we talked to him about. Um. 807 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: But it really helps us to have him because I 808 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: always believe that defensively, you want to create the matchups, 809 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: you want to kind of dictate how the games being played, 810 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: and having the guy like Greedy enables us to do that. 811 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: And then he mentioned them jam or Somebody's seem from 812 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: the rucktell far. He is big. He is big, he 813 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: has extreme length, and he's already changed his body. His body. 814 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: We just talked about some of the nutrition, we talked 815 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: about some of the weight games. Uh you know Sean 816 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: Holds with the strength and conventioning staff and uh MJ's 817 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: the guy that has the biggest has had the biggest 818 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: change so far, just in terms of more lean muscle 819 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: mass and lowering his body fat. So he's a guy 820 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, you look up in the year two, he 821 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: might be you know, six to two pound corner. Yeah, 822 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: he's a big guy, and you I've seen already some versatility. 823 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: He's an outside guy in college, but inside and hey man, 824 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: this guy can cover some tight ends for you down 825 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: the road. Let's talk about the back back in your 826 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: safety room. Top three guys all back in rich as well. 827 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: But it really feels like Grant Helpit that they say 828 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: the big leaps from year one to year two. This 829 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: really is his second season. Know it's a third year 830 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: in the league, but a second season playing. He's been 831 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: phenomenal getting his hands on the ball. John is getting 832 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: closer line of scrimmage where he likes it, getting his 833 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: hands on the ball. Ronnie's back. How's that back and 834 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: doing for you? There's a lot of a lot of versatility, 835 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: a lot of different packages we can run, um, a 836 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: lot of different matchups that we can create, and that 837 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, you talked about Grant Um. I think Grant 838 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, coming off that injury, it's kind of one 839 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: of those deals where you're trying to feel like, am 840 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: I really healthy? So I think early on in the 841 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: season he was kind of just testing himself just to 842 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: see where he was at, and then once he got comfortable, 843 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: you can see his playmaking ability show up and so forth. 844 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: This offseason, you can see he's more confident. He's trying 845 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: to take control and be a leader out there. So 846 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to have a really 847 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: big season for us. Yeah, and as we mentioned John 848 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: and Ronnie Vack as well. See you've got what's it 849 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: like as a defensive coordinator and a guy as you 850 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: mentioned dB oriented, you're basically bringing back, you know, four 851 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: of your top five corners from you ago. You add 852 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: an mgm orson to that group, and you're bringing back, 853 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, your four safeties from a year ago. Right. 854 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: It's good because it gives you flexibility and a defense 855 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: in the package as you can put on the field. 856 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: The thing I have to be careful of is not 857 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: doing too much because you want you want to do 858 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: different things defensively, but you don't want to do so 859 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: much that it slows them down. So it will be 860 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more creative this year with what we 861 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: do defensively, but at the same time, we're not gonna 862 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: try to do too much. Let's go up to the 863 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: front of this defense quickly. Your ends are back. I 864 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: know you're very happy get your Deavy and Clowney back 865 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: along with Myles Garrett. Some changes in the middle of 866 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: the defense, but some of the guys are the same. 867 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: They're just progressing. Now, how do you see kind of 868 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: this defensive front? And really it's hard to tell him 869 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: these kind of camps. Will see that more in training 870 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: camps again the season. But it's probably nice out there 871 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: today to see your full eleven guys out there for 872 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: the first time this offseason. It was definitely good to 873 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: see everybody out there. Um, but outside the defensive end position. Obviously, 874 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: with Miles and j d out there, Uh, that just 875 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: gives you comfort because those two guys worked well together 876 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: last year and with the guys we brought in. We 877 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: brought on some free agents that have had that have 878 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: some NFL experience that played also with some of the 879 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: young guys we drafted. So it's a good mixture there. 880 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: It'll play itself out through training camp and the preseason. 881 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: And then inside UH with Jordan Elliott, he's doing a 882 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: good job right now, Tommy Togia is doing a good job. 883 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: And then with the addition to Tayman Brian Um he 884 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: was a guy I remember we looked at UH years 885 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: ago when I was at Denver and we were really 886 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: high on him there. But he fits our scheme. And 887 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: then you have perry On Winfrey Show today. I mean, 888 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: we have a nice a combination of different type of players, 889 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: but guys that really fit what we're looking for in 890 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: our system. How are those two youngs are doing? Alex 891 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: right a defensive end and then perry On, who's quite 892 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: a personality on the inside. Yeah, Alex is learning, you know, 893 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: I think Cleveland Brown is a little bit different than 894 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: you A b for him, so I think it's a 895 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: learning experience. Um, but athletically he's geted. He has a 896 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: size and length um the movement skills that we cover 897 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: it you know and then pair on inside you know 898 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: you as you guys know, he brings the energy. He's 899 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: a very passionate guy, very long, very powerful. So again, 900 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: both of those guys fit what we're looking for in 901 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman and they'll improve as as we get 902 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: into training camp. In preseason, I felt like over the 903 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: last ten games of the year, you guys were as 904 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: good as any defense in the NFL, especially against the past. 905 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: And that's what this league has become. As you mentioned, 906 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: you have flexibility now to do a lot of things 907 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: and probably some things people haven't seen yet. When you 908 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: kind of conceptualize what you want this defense to be 909 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: and where offenses are going and what they're trying to do. 910 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: What's kind of that mindset for this season. Yeah, Well, 911 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: my philosophy has always been is is trying to make 912 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback beat you on Sunday, not the coordinator in 913 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: the week. So you want to have enough defense where 914 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,479 Speaker 1: you can give them a little change up every week, 915 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: so they're trying to figure it out. UM. So you know, 916 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: coming back after the success we had last year with 917 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: the system we put in, it's just we're gonna continue 918 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: to grow in that system. UM, have the flexibility, try 919 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: to create those looks, create those matchups, just to you know, 920 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: try to confuse the offense a little bit. As a 921 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: defensive guy, how happy are you? Kind of you gonna 922 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: get your break, but then to come back training camp 923 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: where you can actually get the pads on and we 924 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: can start to see what this defense really is gonna 925 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: look like. Yeah, we'll be excited for that for sure. Um. 926 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, now it's just kind of teaching the guys 927 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: the technique, teaching in the scheme, um, and you're heading 928 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: into summer breaks, so you don't feel that pressure. But 929 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: once you come back for training camp, then it's real 930 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: because everything you're doing is leading up to the regular season. 931 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: So it'll be good to see where we're at physically. 932 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: Put the pads on and we get into some you know, 933 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: run drills and and really compete against the offense. You've 934 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: been around some great defenses just from a potential standpoint. 935 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: That potential doesn't necessarily mean anything, but does this one 936 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: have a chance to be special? In your mind? I do? 937 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: I just think when you have talented players, as long 938 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: as we can come together, um as a defense, you 939 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: know and plays you know, one of one of eleven. 940 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: Everybody just does their job, then I think we can 941 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: have the results that we're looking for and be one 942 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: of the better defenses in the league. Well, we're looking 943 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: forward to seeing it. Glad you're running the show on 944 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Coach, Thanks for the time, Yeah, 945 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate it. Coming up next to the 946 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: second hour of our special edition of Cleveland Browns Dailey 947 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: our conversation with Mike Freef for a state of the 948 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: Special Teams that's up next. You're listen to the CBD 949 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: on eight fifty SP and Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily on 950 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: E s B and Cleveland Rumkey Way to recycling his 951 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: family owned an operator. 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Um, well, I tell people all 961 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: the time the best part of my job is when 962 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: the players are in town. So you know, I love 963 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: the preparation for free agency. I love the preparations for 964 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,959 Speaker 1: the draft. I love the watch tape and get better 965 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: and watch what other teams are doing to flud uh 966 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: what I do as a coach that some players are 967 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: here on bloods growing and the player it up and 968 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: so Cully great. I had you guys in the town 969 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: and we got a different parties us a great up. 970 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: Clearly you've got a lot of attention with Thomsons, and 971 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: we've got a couple of new punters here. Obviously Corey's 972 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: in town Cade York now at kicker, jackem Grant at returner. 973 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: So when you go back prior to all of these acquisitions, 974 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: what was kind of the message you conveyed to Andrew 975 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: Berry that got us at this point where you're loaded 976 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: up now? Well, I think Andrew and Kevin and I 977 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: talked about personal all the time, and um, you know, 978 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: we felt like we were going into last year that 979 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: we had some t super puzzle and I think the guys, 980 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm got to play it hard. You know, I'm not 981 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: a big stack guys. Maybe you guys played it hard. 982 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 1: I think we you know, I just want to turn 983 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 1: game and never turned the ball over ka n nst 984 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: on number one job and you're very aggressive to block 985 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: the turn upon the turner and we got some we 986 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: ares average with your great so we knew we needed 987 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,959 Speaker 1: to teas and Internet find brings us that send missing 988 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: piece of that puzzle. Um, you know, kickoff wise, when 989 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: we talked about where the best team in the league 990 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: last year, when you still have to obtain, try to 991 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: attain that goal and that's a Verry Park bod to 992 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: a team because we lost some good four guys and 993 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: me and building to play some of some good young 994 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: players and I excited about those guys. And then of course, 995 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: field goal wise, we started out well last year and 996 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: the kat a tuning stretch and he sat on me 997 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: for all really well, pick us college kicker, and I 998 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: want to post n the U out the great at 999 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: days and Kevin and uh so to me, the sky's 1000 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: the limit. I got my work cut out for me 1001 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: in terms of who we playing ARTI visions we got 1002 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: the pust of revision of football in a county puss 1003 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: of teams, so every week is gonna be difficult for him. 1004 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned Kate or can you? And I sat down 1005 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: last week for a Brown's Breakdown, which is gonna come 1006 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: out on the Brown's YouTube channel the Brown's mobile app 1007 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: as well, so'll be on the lookout for. As we 1008 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: watched some college statement also some tape of Kate kicking 1009 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: app First Energy stays early impressions of himself exactly what 1010 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: we expected he's gonna be. He's young, you know, he's 1011 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: just twenty one years old. He just turned Um. He 1012 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: will have some growing pains, but I think overall, the 1013 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 1: talent is there, the leg strength is there, the attitude, 1014 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: the mentality is there. Uh. He just has and he 1015 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: needs to learn to be more consistent performer. And that's 1016 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: how we're that's what we're striving for each and every 1017 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: time he goes out there and kicks, and even every 1018 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: time we watch tape, every time he goes out there 1019 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 1: and kicks, every time. Even today, he was just working 1020 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: on some some finer uh technique points. He's going to 1021 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: go down to the stadium with the guys tomorrow and 1022 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: kick again in our stadium. So we had a guy 1023 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: named Andy Leah Punter here who is a very successful 1024 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: pro bowler type guy. The ball sounded different when he 1025 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: hit it, and just being out here the last week, 1026 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: I think it was when Kay did some kicking here, 1027 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: the ball sounds different here. All your admirers out there, 1028 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: the special teams players currying favorite smart. Great way to 1029 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: make the roster. By the way, Uh, the ball sounds 1030 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: different coming off of his foot from what I'm used 1031 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: to here, at least in my decade with the Browns, 1032 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: just really dry ves it. It feels like both Corey 1033 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 1: and Joe really hit the ball well yesterday. Punny wise, 1034 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: last week they did the same thing. They've had each 1035 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: had a session at the stadium as well. Um. You know, 1036 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: they're both extremely talented, both raw I think as holders 1037 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: and as punters. Um, they're very smart. They want to 1038 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: do well, they want to improve, and I think some 1039 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: of the things we're working on with them and letting 1040 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: them figure it out. Like I've told you before, Nate 1041 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: that you know we're not gonna I'm not considering and 1042 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: say you have to do this after that, and I'm 1043 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna suggest and recommend certain things that they have to 1044 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: work on with their technique. Both of them is have 1045 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: really a said you know, this is something I want 1046 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: to get better at, and they've really improved, and I'm 1047 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: excited about their improvement. I'm excited about their talent. It's 1048 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a great competition this summer. And is that 1049 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: something you do You like to see that kind of 1050 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: a competition, right, Uh? Is it possible to separate themselves 1051 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: at this point or is that something that has to 1052 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: take time over the course of an entire summer. I 1053 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 1: think the entire summer, But I think you can separate 1054 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: you up a little bit, you know, by the end 1055 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: of the by the end of the spring. Uh, And 1056 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: they will have enough opportunities to do so. Right now, 1057 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: I think their neck and neck, they're both really they 1058 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: both really improved as holders too. I don't think they're 1059 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: very good coming here um and and they're time in 1060 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: the NFL, but I think they've improved immensely and they're 1061 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: working hard on it. Because to me, if if the 1062 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: punting is the same, we're gonna go with the best holder, 1063 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: and obviously the best punter is what you want. And 1064 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: then I think they're close enough holding wise that the 1065 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: best punter will be the good holder as well. So 1066 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited about both of them in their improvement and 1067 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: where we're going from here. All right. We talked about 1068 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: Kate as well and his ability to hit the ball. 1069 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: It kind of has that pop that reminds me of 1070 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: the way Andy Lead did it. The way he just 1071 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: drove it. I mean it was last week we're out 1072 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: here when he had those makeshift up rights out there 1073 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: and he started to put him down to nice. I 1074 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: bet you're happy to see some real uprights up here 1075 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,959 Speaker 1: as we got this new turf in. But I felt 1076 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: like he absolutely can just punish the ball. Yeah, he 1077 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: did a good job last week, and and I scripted 1078 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 1: for success. Obviously, we didn't go back past forty four 1079 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: and the win was a little bit with him, and 1080 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: but I wanted him the first time in front of 1081 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 1: the team. I wanted him to feel good about himself. 1082 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: I wanted the team to feel good about him. And 1083 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: you can see that last one, uh, coach of fancy. 1084 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: He tried to get everybody hooting and holler and try 1085 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: a little put a little pressure on him, and you 1086 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: nailed it in forty four yard right down the middle. 1087 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: So um, I'm hoping that's uh some you know, uh 1088 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: what we're gonna see you know, as the season goes on. 1089 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: So on that day, I was actually back there with 1090 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: Brad Mellon equipped Manager of the Year, no big deal, 1091 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: and I was back there trying to catch some of 1092 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: these field goals and the first one he hit, I 1093 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: was like, okay, yeah, I got it, comes down with 1094 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: a ton of forcing. You're right, it was down wind 1095 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: right there. So then I finally after missing one, then 1096 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: I got when I was like, I'm out like a 1097 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: Stanza on a high note because I was shocked to 1098 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: just watch Forces coming with those kicks. Yeah, he's very powerful, 1099 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: and he's big and strong, and he's, like I said, 1100 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: he's twenty one. He's only gonna get stronger. And our 1101 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: our strength and conditioning staff does a phenomenal job. Monty 1102 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: Gibson does a great job with our specialists and and 1103 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: Cable will only get stronger. And I tell these guys, look, 1104 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: you're not bodybuilders. You're not here to be you know, 1105 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: strengthening and conditioning athletes. You're here to get better as 1106 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,720 Speaker 1: as a punter, as a kicker, as a as a holder, 1107 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: uh snapper or whatever. Um. But at the end of 1108 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 1: the day, he will continue to get stronger and he'll 1109 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: be even better as long as this technique, you know, 1110 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: stays the same or continues to improve as well. Uh, 1111 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: the sky's limit for this young man. So I'm excited 1112 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 1: about him. We've talked a little bit and you'll get 1113 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: the full exact breakdown on Brown's breakdowns. But ninety seconds 1114 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: roughly from the time the ball snapped the time that 1115 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: you wanted kicked. You have a reliable veteran on the 1116 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: snapping part of the operation. And Charlie Hewlett, a guy 1117 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: who's one of the longest tenured Browns now with this 1118 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: football team. What's it like to have that part of 1119 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: it where you just say, okay, look, I really don't 1120 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: have to worry about I know what Charlie's gonna give me. 1121 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: First of all, Charlie's a top five snapper in the league. Secondly, 1122 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: he's a great leader and he leads by example. And 1123 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: then thirdly, he does such a great job with the 1124 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: young players. I mean, he's like a big brother to 1125 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: these guys. And you know he he's so humble too. 1126 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: So he wants to do well. He wants to do 1127 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: the right thing. He wants to do right by the 1128 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: kicker and the punters and um, so Everything he does 1129 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: is geared toward helping them do their job at a 1130 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: higher level. And he just continues to do well as 1131 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: a short snapper, long snapper, and in protection and in coverage. 1132 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: You know, he'll do a good job covering over the 1133 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: ball if we need him to. Hopefully he doesn't have 1134 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: too many tackles because that means that that second wave 1135 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: is making the tackle. But on punch, you know obviously 1136 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: want the first or second guy down. They're making the plays. 1137 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: But it's really great to have Charlie. All right. We 1138 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: talked at the beginning about Jachine Grant. What is he 1139 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: showing you in the limited time here? Because what he's 1140 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: shown me is he is fast. In his ability to 1141 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 1: change direction without slowing down seems to be rather unique. 1142 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: Co O d is unique. His quickness ability to make 1143 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: the first man miss as unique. His speed, his accelerations unbelievable. 1144 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: And I knew it was good, and then the first 1145 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: time I saw it in practice, I'm like, oh boy, 1146 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: we got something here. So I'm very excited about Chakam 1147 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 1: is a good kid. He's a pro. He's only trying 1148 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: to get better. I think he told you in his 1149 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: first interviews he was walking around the facility with the 1150 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: ball his left arm, So I'm really trying to break 1151 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: his habit of always carrying the baond his right arm. 1152 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: And he's been very receptive to all the coaching points 1153 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: and he's helped me. He'll help me be a better 1154 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: coach in terms of how we coach our guys and 1155 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: the schemes we use and that will benefit our team, 1156 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: will benefit him, to help make him successful. Does he 1157 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: have the full green light? So there might be another 1158 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: nineties seven yard return in the future. That's up to 1159 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: the head coach, but that's something we'll talk about. If 1160 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 1: we know he's gonna have a big play, Why not 1161 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: right exactly? And you've worked with some great returners, So 1162 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: for you as a coach, when they take it to 1163 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: the house and Jakim has done it four straight years, 1164 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? And what what kind 1165 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: of goes through? Is there a pre celebration that I 1166 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: should be on the lookout for. Never all I look 1167 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: for see others flags and then everybody's shooting a holler 1168 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: and and I'm trying to get the field goal team 1169 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: out there for the p A T. And I'm thinking 1170 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: about what we're gonna do on these suing kickoff because 1171 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: what happens is some of the guys that a lot 1172 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: of guys that are on the punt return unit are 1173 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: also on the kickoff unit. So now how aggressive we're 1174 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna be on kickoff? Right? So we get the touchdown 1175 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: on the return game we kicked the p a T 1176 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: there might be a TV time out. Guys are gas, 1177 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: Guys are excited. Do we kick the touch back? Do 1178 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: we go after him? Where were aggressive? That's stuff that 1179 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: I think about, and then I'll celebrate on Monday, maybe 1180 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 1: Sunday night with a beer, but on mainly on Monday. 1181 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: Well maybe after the kickoff you can take a second 1182 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: right there, at least come over to the guys, give 1183 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: him a little love, because you're a fiery guy on 1184 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: the sideline. I've seen you pace and I know that 1185 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 1: negative reactions can happen very very quickly for you. So 1186 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to say that you enjoy the positive, but 1187 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: we keep it even Kilan see you always focused on 1188 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: the next task at hand. My daughters, Samanthan Katie want 1189 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: me to do the gritting when we score, but I 1190 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: don't think I'll be able to do that. I certainly 1191 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 1: would love to see that. All right, You mentioned you 1192 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: lost some core guys. Has anybody kind of caught your 1193 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 1: eye from these young guys here to kind of become 1194 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: those special teams. That's a great ways we talked about 1195 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: earlier in jest. But it is true to make this 1196 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: football team. If you're gonna be the sixth receiver, if 1197 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna be the fourth tight end, you're gonna be 1198 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: the fifth or sixth linebacker or the sixth corner, you've 1199 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: got to play special teams and you've got to be good. Absolutely. 1200 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: Richard account as a clean eight, did not have a 1201 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: great rookie year. And I was just talking to him 1202 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: earlier today. Uh, he's improved a mess. His attitude is 1203 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: much better. He'll he'll have to take a big stride 1204 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: for uce um uh m j Emerson the rookie in 1205 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 1: the Mississippi State. He has done a great job, really smart. 1206 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: It's big her Miller is gonna be with us the 1207 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: whole year. Now he's gonna have a whole offseason to 1208 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: continue to prove his techniques. Tony Fields will have to 1209 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: take another step in the right direction. We got some 1210 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: defensive ends, you know, really any any position tight end 1211 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: defensive end, running back. You know, uh Dernis Johnson is 1212 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: still doing a great job. You know what's it? Ford, 1213 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 1: Jerome Ford will have to take a big step because 1214 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 1: he's a good football player who's never played special teams. 1215 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: So that's the thing. These guys are all superstars at 1216 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: their schools. They get drafted or undrafted, even under after 1217 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: free agents. Tell him, I don't care if you drafted 1218 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 1: or not. You have a chance to make our team 1219 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: if you play teams at a high level. So that's 1220 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 1: what we're looking for. And the guys have had great 1221 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: attitudes and I'm excited about you know, continue to work 1222 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: with them. And the more time I have with him, 1223 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: the more periods that we have and more experienced they get, 1224 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 1: the better they're going to get. All I will end 1225 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: on this gotta be a cool week for you. Not 1226 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: only O t A is going on, but the LCS 1227 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: the you SS Minneapolis St. Paul was docked right outside 1228 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: of First Energy Stadium, and I know you got to 1229 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: take it to her. I got to see it. I 1230 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: was blown away. Awesome stuff and as a Navy man, 1231 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was great for you to be back 1232 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: on the boat. It was cool and last time I 1233 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: was on a ship, I was probably wearing a flight 1234 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: suit back in the U. S. S. America a long 1235 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: time ago. And sure she's been decommissioned for many years 1236 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: and she's at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. She 1237 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: they scuttled her many years ago. But um, yeah, it 1238 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of brought me back in time a little bit, 1239 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: you know, ducking underneath the passageways. I'm not as tall 1240 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: as you, obviously, but it was fun. It was fun 1241 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: to take my wife, Debbie, and my daughter Katie was 1242 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: on there. She did a story for Spectrum News and 1243 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: did a great job talking about the pride that the 1244 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: city of Cleveland will have when the USS Cleveland has 1245 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: commissioned here in a couple of years. So it was 1246 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: a brought me back a little bit. And you can 1247 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: fly a helicopter on the back of that chip to 1248 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: which that's what I really wanted to do with. They 1249 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't let me two of them on that. You can 1250 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: store one and fly one and leave it out on 1251 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 1: the back. Incredible. The Anger Band put one on the 1252 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: back ye on the stern yep, so that would have 1253 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: been fun. But maybe someday, Coach, Thank you so much 1254 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 1: for the time looking forward to us seeing this season 1255 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: and seeing the special teams flourished under your two dilas. 1256 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: Great job, buddy. Coming up next to the special edition 1257 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: of Cleveland Brown's Daily, we check in with offense of 1258 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: coordinator Alex van Pelt. You listening to CBD on a 1259 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily on eight fifty E 1260 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: s b N Cleveland. Elk and ELK serious lawyers for 1261 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: serious injuries called one eight hundred Elk Ohio for a 1262 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: free case review. El canl is the proud partner of 1263 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns. As we continue on this special edition 1264 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: of CBD, here's Z's conversation with Alex van Pelt from 1265 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 1: the b p A. This from June three. Here with 1266 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: Brown's offensive coordinator Alex van Pelt and coach two weeks 1267 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: of the O T A s now in the books. 1268 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: How's this offense coming along? Still growing? That's the good news. 1269 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: You know. We've had good days, we've had some rough days. Um, 1270 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, for the quarterback room, it's all new stuff. Um. 1271 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: The most encouraging part is we don't make the same 1272 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: mistakes twice. So now this is the second time we've 1273 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: gone through these installations. We should be getting better in 1274 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: the shows today. You talked about it in your press conference. 1275 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: This is a passing camp on get maybe three fifty 1276 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: reps on defense. Well, guess what, we have a pretty 1277 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,320 Speaker 1: good back seven. So are you getting a lot of 1278 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: good looks and a lot of good work against good competition? Oh, 1279 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: there's no question let that back end for those guys. 1280 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean there's they're talented. They're really four deep at corner. 1281 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: Even more, the safety plays exceptional. Um, their disguise has 1282 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: been really good so far in these O t s 1283 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: in the challenge for the quarterback room, Uh talk about 1284 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: to shun. What have you seen from here here in 1285 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: these first two weeks? O tis very impressive. I mean 1286 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: the skill sets phenomenal. I mean they can make every 1287 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: throw in the field from all different body positions. It's 1288 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: fun to watch his accuracy stands out. Um. You know, 1289 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: the the arm strength is another uh characteristic that you're like, wow, 1290 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: you know he can he can put it in the 1291 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: windows that close quickly. So that's really good. So just 1292 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: getting him, um to catch up and learn as quickly 1293 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: as he can. But when he when he sees it 1294 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 1: and he fires it, it's it's pretty and it feels 1295 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: like it's quick once he makes the decision to throw. 1296 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: It is not a lot of body motion. It feels 1297 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 1: like it comes out very quick. It comes out quick 1298 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: with a great velocity. So those windows they have a 1299 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 1: hard time closing on his bolt he talked about he'd 1300 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: remind you in some ways of Aaron Roders. In what 1301 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 1: ways of those his mobility, I think his ability to 1302 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: make plays outside the pocket and throw off platform. Um, 1303 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, quarterbacks should be able to make plays when 1304 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 1: and everything is perfect at this level. Uh, it's when 1305 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 1: things break down that we have to be great. And 1306 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of characteristics of air and 1307 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 1: in Deshawn's game when things break down. One thing I've noticed, 1308 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 1: I've talked some other people out here. It feels like 1309 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the field is back. That we're throwing 1310 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 1: the ball to the middle field attacking it much more 1311 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: than perhaps we have in the past. What does that 1312 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: do for the offense? Oh, you know, you gotta defend 1313 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: the whole field at that point, so you're not just 1314 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 1: working outside the numbers. You got to defend the whole field. 1315 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: That makes us a better offense. What's kind of the 1316 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: evolution you want to see given the skill set you mentioned, 1317 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: the mobility that he brings the table, how does that 1318 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: evolve this offense? Uh, you know we're gonna we're gonna 1319 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: extend plays. You know. It's one of the areas we've 1320 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: talked about as a group is we're gonna be out 1321 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: of the pocket more than we ever have, so our 1322 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: scramble opportunities when we get out there, we have to 1323 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 1: make them explosive gains. We worked really hard um with 1324 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: the whole group of what happens when we do extend place. 1325 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: Jacoby bersats a guy's quarterback. A lot in this league 1326 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: started from multiple teams. When you have a backup like then, 1327 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: you guys had a great one with the case Kingdom 1328 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 1: as well. What does that do for the offense? And 1329 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: how does he look so far? He's looked really good. 1330 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: He has a great understanding of one protections scheme, um, 1331 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: everything we're implementing. You can see it. He's definitely banked 1332 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: a lot of reps, has a ton of starts in 1333 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: the NFL, and there's not a lot that surprises him. 1334 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: So to have a security blanket like that that's played 1335 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: a lot of football is good You've been around a 1336 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: lot of great receivers and Marii Cooper is the latest 1337 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: in that long line. For you. What do you think 1338 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: about his route running? What he's shown so far, tremendous 1339 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: route runner. He's a savvy guy. The thing that stands 1340 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: out most is his strength, his play strength. You know, 1341 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: he's a big guy that's explosive. When you stand across 1342 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: from him and watch him come off the ball, Uh, 1343 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: it's scary. So it's good to get him in the 1344 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: mix now. And uh, you know, as de Sean gets 1345 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: to know him more, there'll be a lot of production there. 1346 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: You have a couple of guys that I think you're 1347 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: wanting to take leaps. Donovan People's Jones has been very 1348 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: good each of the last two seasons now in the 1349 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: year three, and then Anthony Schwartz will start with DPJ. 1350 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: How's he kind of fitting in and doing so far? Yeah? 1351 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: DPJ is always a pro. He does a great job. 1352 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: You know, he plays a lot of different spots for us, 1353 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: always consistent, you know, it's the big thing he's He's 1354 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: played really well on this camp. Um had some big 1355 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: catches for uce. I really excited where he is. Um 1356 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: and then with Shortzy. Uh, here's the guy that's really 1357 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: starting to gain some confidence now. You can see it 1358 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: in his play on the field. He understands where he 1359 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: needs to be catching the ball very well right now. 1360 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: For so the air is up on both those guys. 1361 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,959 Speaker 1: It feels like with Schwartz to like, even from before 1362 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: you guys got into the O ts when you're doing 1363 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: just offense on air, to where he is now there 1364 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: actually has been significant progress. Which sure you're excited because 1365 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: he is the vertical guy in this office, no question. 1366 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: And you think about these guys, A lot of these 1367 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: guys have not had this opportunity to go through a 1368 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: full O tier with the team setting. Uh, you know 1369 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: for like the Bradley's and the and the Schwartz is 1370 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: Nick Harris is those guys. These reps are inviable for him. 1371 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: When you talk about David Bell, you guys are all excited. 1372 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: We know coach was excited. That's as excited i've seen 1373 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: Kevin's fancy yet about a player. How's he looked out here? 1374 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: And it feels like it's certainly this week, the last 1375 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: couple of days, he's made some big place, especially in 1376 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: the red zone. Yes, and it's all these rookies, you know, 1377 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: their heads are swimming right now. You're putting new plays 1378 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: in every single day, and you can see a little 1379 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: bit in his game when he's not quite sure. Um, 1380 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: you know this route running ability, you know, but when 1381 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: he knows that, it's impressive. You know, he had a 1382 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: nice separation on a crossing route and practice he's done 1383 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: some good things. So as he gains more confidence in 1384 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 1: himself in this system, we expect more production from him too. 1385 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: We've called it a passing camp. This is an offense 1386 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: that runs the ball quite a bit. We use some 1387 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: twelves and thirteen person we've seen some of that. Will 1388 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: probably a little more eleven this year. But how do 1389 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: you kind of work on that at this time or 1390 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 1: is that something that comes later on? That's we get 1391 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: off to the side. You know, we're not banging heads 1392 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: out here at the defense, so we do it more 1393 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: of walk through settings versus our offensive offensive guys giving 1394 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: us a look on the other side. So, um, I 1395 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: think we have four runs in a ten play period. 1396 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: It's it's not a lot that will come in training camp. 1397 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: This offensive line, the depth seems to be very good 1398 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: and getting a guy like Chris Hubbard back, and I 1399 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: know Conklin's on his way back. Uh. And we haven't 1400 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 1: had Joel here yet, but we've had guys play cants 1401 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: fills and looks very very good. What do you think 1402 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: about this line and how Nick Harris is adjusted to 1403 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: be in that guy at center? No, I love our 1404 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: offensive line always have. They work hard and it shows 1405 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: up for sure. Nick is ready to step in. You know, 1406 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: he played well when he stepped in last year. We 1407 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: expect him to plug that hole from from j C 1408 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: leaving flawlessly, Jack getting Jack back hubback. I mean that's 1409 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: a line that's played a lot of football together. Uh. 1410 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: And you can talk about Blake. He's played up and 1411 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: down the line in every position. So we feel really 1412 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,919 Speaker 1: good about our depth. And I will talk tight ends 1413 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: now and the chief. The big news signs he's been 1414 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 1: back the last two days. He's in a great condition. 1415 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: It always is, how can he grow in this offense 1416 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: now that he's the man right now, his big thing 1417 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: is just gonna get more opportunities to make place. That's 1418 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: the big thing for him. His targets will definitely go 1419 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: up for us and expect him to to show up, 1420 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: which he will he has already, so it's looked good. 1421 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: And we talked about using in the middle of the 1422 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: field more and that's oftentimes where the tight ends live 1423 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: and his ability to stretch the seaman. You go and 1424 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: you put on the tape of the shan you see 1425 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: beautiful seam balls with tight ends that don't have the 1426 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: skills that the chief does. So this could be a 1427 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: great marriage for him the offense, the quarterback and now 1428 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Yeah, there's no question. You know, Davids worked 1429 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 1: hard to get into this position where he's at and 1430 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: we're happy that that we got him signed. He's back. 1431 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: How's Harrison Brian doing now entering year three? Really good news. 1432 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 1: The guy that understands our system. You know, there's nothing, 1433 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: uh that he misses out there. You know, he's a 1434 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: he's like a coach on the field, and you know 1435 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: he's another guy with with who believing his targets will 1436 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: go up, his production will go up this year. So 1437 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 1: we got guys, this is an offense, like we said, 1438 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: three tight ends off the miller. Forestow looks like he's 1439 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: been that third guy so far and it has looked 1440 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: pretty good. And then you've got some projects some some 1441 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: clay coming out of Texas Tech there that's pretty impressive 1442 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 1: and actually catches well, I think, pretty naturally. What do 1443 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 1: you kind of make of the rest of that tight 1444 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: end room and has anybody caught your eye? It's really 1445 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: a group of guys batting for spots, you know, if 1446 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: you get if you get down past Harrison, you know, 1447 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 1: and David uh Miller was here last year, you know, 1448 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely guys battling for the spot. They've 1449 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: all looked good and at times you know, it's just 1450 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: gonna be good competition moving into camp. The running back room, 1451 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, not a ton of running here, 1452 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: some passing, but they all look good catching the ball. 1453 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: Cream has had some nice catches, and I think Jerome 1454 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Ford has looked real natural for a rookie he has. 1455 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that's it's worked hard. Stump 1456 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: doing a great job with him working on the side, 1457 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: but he's a guy that has a really good running 1458 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: ability as well to catch the ball on the backfield. 1459 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: So will be excited to see him on third down. 1460 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: And we seem to metric moved back to the receivers. 1461 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Is that just because we haven't had some guys available 1462 01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: or is that something that we're going to see as 1463 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: this season A little bit of both. He's a he's 1464 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: a utility knife for us. You know, one day you'll 1465 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: see him in the running back room and if we're 1466 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 1: short at wide receiver, he goes out and plays wide receiver. 1467 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 1: But he's a guy that can do a lot of 1468 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 1: things for us. So, as you sit here today, how 1469 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: do you feel about this offense knowing that you have 1470 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: O t is really for the first time we're able 1471 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: to really do this in your time here with the Browns? 1472 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: How do you feel about even though it is a 1473 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: whole new quarterback room as you mentioned, sure after I'm 1474 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: very positive. You know, I like our group a lot um. 1475 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Adding to Shawn into the mix, is you know, an 1476 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: elite quarterback to come into your starters. Excellent. Our running 1477 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: game has been as strong as anybody's in the league 1478 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 1: the last few years. So it's exciting times. So you've 1479 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 1: got coming up, We've got the mandatory minicamp, then the 1480 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: break and training camp. What are you looking forward to 1481 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: about the mandatory minicamp and then getting away? I'm sure 1482 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: and kind of reach out to the batteries. Yeah, the 1483 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 1: mandatory mini camps just mandatory. You know, we've we've had 1484 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: a great attendance here. Hopefully we get Joel back in 1485 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 1: into the building next week and and catch him up 1486 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: on some of the changes we've made. But you know, 1487 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: looking forward for another two good weeks of work. Um, 1488 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, cap it off with a good a couple 1489 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 1: of days of work during the mini camp. Then everybody 1490 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 1: needs to get back, refresh, relax, and then come back 1491 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: ready to go into that marathon of the season. If 1492 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: you could tell the fans one thing that when they 1493 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 1: come out to training camp they should expect to see 1494 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 1: from this offense, what would it be? A dynamic, explosive offense. 1495 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: I think with the run game in the in our 1496 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, emphasis on the drop back pass game, I 1497 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: think we can put some yards and some numbers up 1498 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 1: this year. It'll be a lot of fun. Coach, thanks 1499 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: so much for the time, and enjoy the process. We'll do. 1500 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. Coming up next to the special edition of 1501 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily, the Wide Receiver Room put into perspective 1502 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: with Chad o'sha you're listening to CBD on eight fifty 1503 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily sp N Cleveland. Vo Here 1504 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: from my friends at renew Home Exteriors were beautifying and protected. 1505 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: Your home is their passion. Upgrade the look of your home. 1506 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Create a high return on investment with new signing for 1507 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: a new Home exteriors ranging in every architectural style and 1508 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: over fifty colors. 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Yeah, it's great to 1518 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 1: be here with you guys and talk through some of 1519 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: these players that we have acquired and some of our 1520 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 1: new players also. Yeah, and it's nice to have them back. Right. 1521 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: And now this is kind of your first year with 1522 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: the Browns, where haven't been in COVID protocols. We can 1523 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: all be around each other, we can socialize with each other. 1524 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: And how nice is it they get the guys back 1525 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: here and Phase one and now face two out on 1526 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 1: the grass. Yeah, it's been great. We've been out there 1527 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: on the field with these guys in the meeting rooms. Uh, 1528 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: we're looking them in the eye this time around. So 1529 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: it's different. We're not under the same protocols we were 1530 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the restrictions the last couple of years, which was you know, 1531 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: in a on a zoom platform. It's just so much 1532 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: different to be in a meeting room with your players 1533 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: to walk out on the field and and to truly 1534 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 1: transfer the stuff that you do in the meeting room 1535 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: to the field and start building the program in the 1536 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 1: offense that we want to build here. And this is 1537 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 1: a nice to get to see their facial expressions, the 1538 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: reactions to things, and be able to kind of like 1539 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 1: you can connect better as people. And I'm sure for 1540 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: you as you you know, coach says, we look at 1541 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: ourselves as not only coaches, but we're developers. And I 1542 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: mentioned that's an important part of developing as being able 1543 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: to understand the person and relate to them. Yeah, I 1544 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: mean to be in person with the players is so important. Um, 1545 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 1: I see myself view myself as a teacher, teacher first, 1546 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 1: and and that's what I do. I'm up in front 1547 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: of the group, I'm looking these guys in the in 1548 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: the eye. I can see their nonverbal communication back to 1549 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: me when I'm up there teaching them. Obviously, it's such 1550 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: a benefit to be in person. I mean, I think 1551 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: we dealt with the the COVID and the challenges that 1552 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 1: we had in front of us on that as well 1553 01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: as we could have. But now it's just so be 1554 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: official to have them in person. And I think they 1555 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: would say the same thing. You know that for them 1556 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 1: to sit in the rooms and look at us and 1557 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: and and to be able to get the information that 1558 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: way has got to be beneficial to them as it 1559 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: is us. All you mentioned at the top, I canna 1560 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 1: talk about some of the new guys before we get 1561 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: to the draft and what that process is like. Let's 1562 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: start with a trade and you get a MARII Cooper 1563 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 1: comes in here, a guy who's had a lot of 1564 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: success in this league from a first round pick, great 1565 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 1: with the Raiders, great with the Cowboys, and now we 1566 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 1: certainly hope great with the Browns. What did you like 1567 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: about a mari on tape? And then now that he's 1568 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 1: been here, what's kind of experience been Like, Yeah, on tape, 1569 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: the first thing is he's a tremendous route runner. I mean, 1570 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: he has got a tremendous route tree. Uh, an expansive 1571 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 1: route tree, one of which you can do a lot with. 1572 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 1: So as a coach, you're excited to see that on tape. 1573 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: And then once we've had an opportunity now to meet 1574 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: with him and to be in person with him, it's 1575 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: been so impressive with his character traits. He has tremendous 1576 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: work ethic. Um, he just goes about his business in 1577 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: a way and which I think is just very professional, 1578 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: and we're so glad to add him to the room. Um, 1579 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna say much, but he shows 1580 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: great leadership by his actions on what he does here. 1581 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 1: So far with us on a daily basis, I mean, 1582 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: it's been awesome. It's very exciting to get an accomplished 1583 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: player that's been proven in the league. I mean, you 1584 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: can acquire players in different ways throughout the year, and 1585 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 1: obviously one way you can acquire players through a trade 1586 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 1: and when you can get a player that there's proof 1587 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: on tape that he's done it, that's exciting. And you 1588 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: mentioned he's quiet. So I got a chance to talk 1589 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 1: with him, uh last week, and yeah, he is quite 1590 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: but certainly confident and understands what it is to be 1591 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 1: a professional. I think you've touched on that, and he 1592 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,960 Speaker 1: said that he's already enjoyed his relationship working with you 1593 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 1: because you understand, you know that there are he was 1594 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: talking about just about a slant route for example. You know, 1595 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 1: some coaches say this is exactly how a slant route 1596 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 1: must be running. And you see said that you guys 1597 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: have kind of talked about and you understood that there 1598 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: are maybe a hundred different ways to get there, but 1599 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: as long as you're there and open when you're supposed 1600 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: to be there in the gets there, that go ahead 1601 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: and what whatever works for you in that way. And 1602 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: so we said that he already liked that you guys 1603 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: are able to kind of have that back and forth 1604 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 1: and that he understands, Look, I'm gonna be where you 1605 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 1: want me to be when you want me to be there, 1606 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 1: and I'll figure out the best way to get open 1607 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: within our system. Yeah, I mean I think that's it's 1608 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: so important that we have ongoing communication between our players, 1609 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: especially if somebody of a Mare that's been an accomplished player. 1610 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's very important that we share 1611 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 1: different ways to do things. We're not set in stone 1612 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 1: as a coaching staff on exactly how we want to 1613 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: do certain things. There are certain things we're not going 1614 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: to compromise on that we think are important, which I 1615 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 1: think he would share those same thoughts. But there's certain 1616 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 1: things as far as route running. We never want to 1617 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 1: paralyze our players as route runners and say we're only 1618 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 1: going to do it this way. They know very well 1619 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: that their job is to get open, catch the ball, 1620 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 1: and to compete in the run game. So there's obviously 1621 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,520 Speaker 1: different ways to do that, and I think it's important 1622 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 1: for all the players to realize they're they're unique, and 1623 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: they're different than everybody else, and they need to use 1624 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 1: those skill sets differently than the next guy you maybe 1625 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 1: sitting next time. And one of the things you mentioned 1626 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 1: right off the top of the Mari separation, and I 1627 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 1: know from talking to you a lot of times, you 1628 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,679 Speaker 1: want to find effort Saver can play in the NFL, 1629 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 1: can't he separate and then obviously's got to catch the ball. 1630 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 1: But you're not going to get the ball unless you're 1631 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: able to separate. And do you think having a guy 1632 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 1: who is such a precise and an elite route runner 1633 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: like that, not only will that help the quarterback and 1634 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: only will that help the offense, but will it help 1635 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 1: the other guys in the room understand this is one 1636 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 1: of the ways you need to do things and we're 1637 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna have success at this level. Yeah, I mean the best, 1638 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 1: the best way to affect positively the group. And here 1639 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 1: is another player is what's on tape, and what he's 1640 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 1: put on tape is the ability to separate, especially as 1641 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: it relates to separation versus tight man coverage. That's one 1642 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: of his greatest strengths is his ability at the line 1643 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and the top of the routes to separate 1644 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 1: from that tight coverage. And I think our players will 1645 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 1: really learn from him. Um. And it's so easy as 1646 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 1: their coach to just put on the film and to 1647 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: talk through the film of him doing it, instead of 1648 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: me instructing and saying what we need for for us 1649 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 1: to turn on the film and say, this is how 1650 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to separate verse man coverage. And 1651 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: obviously he has a very uh exceptional skill set that 1652 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: that he has naturally ability wise, but he also has 1653 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 1: worked very hard to be the route runner he is. 1654 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't something that he just walks in 1655 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 1: here and is. He has worked exceptionally hard. And that's 1656 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 1: the thing working with him on the field that's been 1657 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: so impressive is the way he goes about his work. 1658 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,680 Speaker 1: I know, you like guys who go about their work. 1659 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,720 Speaker 1: The words all around this building whenever the players are 1660 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 1: in here in Amari certainly embodies that. Let's talk about 1661 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: the draft, and so that just happened. Third round we 1662 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: get David Bell, who was the Big ten receiver of 1663 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 1: the year year ago, had an unbelievable career there, and 1664 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,480 Speaker 1: then later on you get Michael Woods out of Oklahoma. 1665 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: But let's just talk about process for a little bit. 1666 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: As the receiver's coach, I know, you look at a 1667 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 1: lot of these guys and you're gonna develop your favorites, 1668 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 1: but you go through kind of what's process do you? 1669 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: You watch tape and then where does it go? The 1670 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 1: conversations go from there that lead to a guy that 1671 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: I know you're thrilled about David Belton. Yeah, I mean 1672 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 1: if the process, I'll say this starts with Andrew Berry 1673 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 1: and our personnel department, and they do an outstanding job 1674 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 1: of kind of setting the stage for us to allowing 1675 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: us to come in the process to evaluate these players 1676 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: both as people and as players. With the amount of 1677 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 1: information that they provide us, I mean, they can't say 1678 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,919 Speaker 1: enough about how important that they are in the process 1679 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: for us as a coaching staff to allow us then 1680 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 1: to evaluate the player. Obviously, then when it comes to 1681 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 1: us in the evaluation of the player, I think it's 1682 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 1: very important to look these guys in the eye, whether 1683 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: it is in a zoom interview or we're fortunate enough 1684 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: to interview some of these guys in person, which at 1685 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: some point in the process or either our scouting department 1686 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: or myself or another coach is sat down with these 1687 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: guys and Ben Ben had an opportunity to talk with 1688 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: them in person, and I think that's an important part 1689 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: of the process us. We obviously can look at the 1690 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 1: film and evaluate the player as a player on the film, 1691 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 1: that's one thing, But another part of the process that's 1692 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 1: so important for us is to sit down with them 1693 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: and to talk football, to talk about life, to see 1694 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 1: what their goals are and see if they're a fit 1695 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. And fortunately, I can look back 1696 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 1: on this year's draft and say we were able to 1697 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 1: be very thorough about our evaluation and none of it 1698 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,560 Speaker 1: started without our exceptional job of our scouts and the 1699 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 1: personnel department led by Andrew. So you mentioned that tape 1700 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,200 Speaker 1: is your resume. Everybody knows that, right, but success for 1701 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 1: twenty two year olds it's a little harder to figure out. 1702 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 1: It's not just about talents. How are they going to work? 1703 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 1: How are they going to mature? In twenty one year olds, 1704 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: In the case of David Bell, when you sit down 1705 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: with somebody, what is the one thing that you're hoping 1706 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,599 Speaker 1: to take away that gives you the comfort that, yeah, 1707 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,439 Speaker 1: we can go with this guy, or that is the 1708 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 1: opposite side would be no, this is not a guy 1709 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 1: who's a fit for us. Yeah, I think that their 1710 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: their traits and what we're looking for need to be 1711 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 1: aligned with what coach Stefanski talks to our team about 1712 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,759 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. So when we talk about being smart, 1713 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: a tough, an accountable, resilient team that always puts the 1714 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 1: team first. Those are things that we're looking for in 1715 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 1: them because that's what our program right now is trying 1716 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: to be built upon, is those things. And certainly I 1717 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 1: have some things as a receiver coach that are very 1718 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: important to me, and that is are they passionate about 1719 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 1: the game, are they smart enough to function in a 1720 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 1: role in which we envision them doing? And then what 1721 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,679 Speaker 1: is their work ethic? I mean, it's as you just mentioned, 1722 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,760 Speaker 1: it's all of our building work, work work. So for 1723 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: me not to try to identify that in the player 1724 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 1: is not the right thing. The right thing to do 1725 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 1: is say do this, Does this guy have the traits 1726 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: that we want? And we covered so highly as far 1727 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: as being a Cleveland Brown's player, So, I mean we've 1728 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 1: been fortunate in this year's draft, as you mentioned, in 1729 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 1: a guy like David Bell who really embodies a lot 1730 01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: of the things that we just spoke about. Do you 1731 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: always ask him are you willing to run black? Because 1732 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: if you're not, you're not playing. Yeah, that that that's 1733 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 1: definitely part of it. But I'll say this, if they 1734 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 1: can get open and catch the ball first, we can 1735 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 1: get him to run back. You can get that there well, 1736 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 1: David Bell can get open and catch the ball. You 1737 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: put on his tape last year against the best competition 1738 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, he at three eleven catch games, 1739 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 1: multiple two yard plus games, lead the conference and receiving. 1740 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 1: He just feels like he's a football player. He knows 1741 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 1: how to get open, knows how to use his body, 1742 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 1: knows great hands. What do you love about him and 1743 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: how do you see him fitting in here? The first 1744 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,599 Speaker 1: thing I love about him is he really scored very 1745 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 1: high across all of our testing, whether it was a 1746 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 1: scout talking to him, whether it was myself talking to him, 1747 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: whether it was our tape evaluation from a coaching end match, 1748 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: the personnel and we all felt very strongly as an 1749 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: organization about this football player. Um, they're the things we 1750 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 1: really liked about him is when you put on the tape, 1751 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 1: he's an exceptional route runner that has the ability to 1752 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 1: separate verse tight coverage. And we believe that to be 1753 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 1: true that it at the end of the day, it's 1754 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,519 Speaker 1: going to come down to your ability to separate versus 1755 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 1: man coverage in this league on the money downs, on 1756 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 1: third down, and in your situational football on the red zone. 1757 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: So we identified as him being able to do that, 1758 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 1: and he did it at a level that we thought 1759 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 1: was really impressive. I mean, his best games and some 1760 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of his most productive days were versus excellent competition, So 1761 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 1: that told us a lot about him. And then the 1762 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: biggest thing with us, and really what what swayed the vote, 1763 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,799 Speaker 1: is when you get to this guy in person, he's awesome. 1764 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he really was exceptional as far as the 1765 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 1: person and his motivation and his work ethic, and we 1766 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,600 Speaker 1: identified him as being somebody that could really be a 1767 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,640 Speaker 1: fit for all the things Coach talks about on a 1768 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 1: daily basis. I'm sure you're excited to get him on 1769 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 1: the grass. And I know, Coach that you brought up 1770 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Coach a bunch of times, pretty even keel guy like 1771 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,439 Speaker 1: and maybe behind closed doors you see a different verson 1772 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 1: than we see, but certainly very even keel and our 1773 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 1: great video department put out the videos of when they 1774 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,120 Speaker 1: called David Bell to let him know it's coming. And 1775 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 1: my favorite thing, which to me was as big of 1776 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 1: an endorsement as I've ever seen from coaches. Dabel says him, 1777 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, I believe, thank you for believing in me, 1778 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,479 Speaker 1: and Coach goes, oh, I believe in you, and I 1779 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, all right, he's got he's got Coach 1780 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 1: the seal of approval, so must be a special young Yeah. 1781 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 1: And and I think that's true. Like I said, I 1782 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 1: think we were all on the same page on this 1783 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 1: guy as far as an organization. You know, we all 1784 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 1: felt strongly about the player. We felt strongly about the person. 1785 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,240 Speaker 1: And and that's what I think is most encouraging about 1786 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 1: when you get a player like this is you say, hey, 1787 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 1: how can he fit with us? And we identify the 1788 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 1: ways he can fit with us. We have a clear 1789 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 1: vision of who he can be for us and where 1790 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 1: he can play. And certainly he's allowed himself to play 1791 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: in a role with us based off of not only 1792 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,560 Speaker 1: his traits but his physical ability. And he seems like 1793 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 1: a guy I'll be able to step in outside inside, 1794 01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 1: but I think you know, we'll see a lot of 1795 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 1: them inside for us. Part two of that conversation with 1796 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,679 Speaker 1: Coach o Shake coming up next. You listen to Cleve 1797 01:16:53,680 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 1: the Brown's Daily on esp in Cleveland. Cleveland Brown's Daily 1798 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 1: on ESPN Cleveland, and welcome back into this special edition 1799 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 1: of Cleveland Brown's Daily. Now, Part two of the conversation 1800 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 1: with wide receivers, Coach Chad O'Shea and one of his 1801 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,640 Speaker 1: best buddies, Nathan's a girl. Let's talk about those two, 1802 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, David Bell joining some guys that have been 1803 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 1: productive for you in the past, specifically Donovan People's Jones. 1804 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: A lot of turn over in her room, but DPJ 1805 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,880 Speaker 1: has been a constant now entering his third year. Yeah, 1806 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 1: here's another guy in Donovan People's Jones that is everything 1807 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 1: we want. As far as the person, I mean, he 1808 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 1: has got tremendous work ethic. He's a great professional, he's 1809 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 1: a great teammate, and he puts the team first and 1810 01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 1: everything he does. So it starts with that. He's left 1811 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 1: after the year and he's gone, and he's really worked 1812 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,439 Speaker 1: very hard to make improvements in all areas of his 1813 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,680 Speaker 1: physical play, which I've seen a difference just in a 1814 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of working with him, seeing him on 1815 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 1: the field. Been very impressed with the way he's worked, 1816 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,920 Speaker 1: which I didn't expect anything less out of him. And 1817 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 1: certainly the thing about Donovan that's gonna be eight is 1818 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 1: he's going to provide a lot of leadership and guidance 1819 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,799 Speaker 1: to a young player like David Bell. I mean, Donovan 1820 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,759 Speaker 1: was a young player when he came in this league, 1821 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,800 Speaker 1: and he learned from some guys that kind of taught 1822 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 1: him along the way. Maybe it wasn't even at the 1823 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: receiver position of veteran that grabbed him and said, hey, 1824 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,559 Speaker 1: here's how to study, here's how to go about your business. 1825 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 1: It can be really beneficial to use a player. And 1826 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 1: that's what my expectation for Donovan is. With, for example, 1827 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 1: a guy like David Bell. I remember last year we're 1828 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,639 Speaker 1: talking about Anthony Schwartz. In the preseason, you told him 1829 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: be like Donovan People's jones. Every assignment he was ready 1830 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 1: to go. And he's a guy. Look when he average 1831 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 1: over eleven yards a target for your career in this league, 1832 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 1: you're a productive receiver. And maybe he's gonna earn more 1833 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,640 Speaker 1: chances this year, but so far, catches go up every year, 1834 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: yards go up every year, and it's evergin, you know, 1835 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 1: almost nineteen yards of I mean, when you when you 1836 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 1: get a guy that produces and and can gain some 1837 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 1: yards down the field like Donovan Can, I mean, it's 1838 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 1: it's real exciting to have him in the room. And 1839 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 1: now with some other guys that were considering really good 1840 01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 1: route runners. So you've got the good route runners the 1841 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 1: out down to people's jones and we have Anthony Schwartz 1842 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 1: and Anthony Schwartz third round pick a year ago, can 1843 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 1: fly track speed. That's not an exaggeration, it's a fact. 1844 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 1: That's what he's gotten. We saw a taste of that 1845 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: week one against Kansas City, and then things got a 1846 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 1: little bit tougher I think as this season went on. 1847 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,559 Speaker 1: But so young to the position, I mean it really 1848 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been a receiver full time in his life really, 1849 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 1: probably before last year, you know, balancing the track and 1850 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: all that. Maybe one year at Auburn. How's he kind 1851 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,120 Speaker 1: of gone through his offseason and what do you want 1852 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 1: to see from him to be able to take that 1853 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 1: next step and and help really take the top off 1854 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 1: the defense for us. Yeah, I think that the thing 1855 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 1: on him is it's a second lap around the track 1856 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 1: for him. Is his sophomore season, So our expectations are 1857 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 1: high for him this year. I mean we won him. 1858 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,640 Speaker 1: And when we say expectations, it's you know, can you 1859 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 1: go about your business as far as your work ethic? Uh, 1860 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,640 Speaker 1: can you bring those traits that you have physically? All right? 1861 01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,080 Speaker 1: And be productive on the field, and he is working 1862 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,800 Speaker 1: very hard to do that. I mean he is. He's 1863 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 1: very intelligent, he's fast, he's young, he's a good person 1864 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 1: who I think is at team guy. And I think 1865 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 1: this is a big year for him. You know, he's 1866 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,800 Speaker 1: gone through all the things that you go through in 1867 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 1: your transition in your first year in the NFL, which 1868 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,400 Speaker 1: is sometimes very challenging. So he's gone through that journey 1869 01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,080 Speaker 1: and now he's staring at the second year and I 1870 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 1: think he's got a different perspective and one of which 1871 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 1: it could be very beneficial to him if he allows 1872 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,559 Speaker 1: that to be. If there's one thing you would say 1873 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,800 Speaker 1: for the fans when whether it mini camp or once 1874 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,599 Speaker 1: we get into training camp, that would kind of say, Okay, 1875 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 1: he's getting it. What would it be? What would you 1876 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 1: want people to be able to see from Anthony? I 1877 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 1: think getting open and catching the ball, you know, I 1878 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 1: mean really we try we try to make it trying 1879 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 1: to make it real simple, and you know, I mean 1880 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 1: I could put don't ever want to put a catch 1881 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,160 Speaker 1: total on it. I don't don't ever want to put 1882 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 1: expectations of certain stats and those things. I mean, for 1883 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 1: for him to help us and and for him to 1884 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,559 Speaker 1: help us contribute and winning, he just needs to get 1885 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 1: open and catch the ball, and obviously we like him 1886 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,080 Speaker 1: to block in the run game, right, But without those 1887 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,640 Speaker 1: first two, really you have nothing in a player. So 1888 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,120 Speaker 1: we were really excited about you know, him and his 1889 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,599 Speaker 1: year two. Uh look forward to working with him again 1890 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,920 Speaker 1: on the field. He's already done some real good things 1891 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,640 Speaker 1: for us in the classroom and transferred that to the 1892 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 1: field here in the first couple of weeks of our 1893 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 1: off season program. Alright, a couple of guys who have 1894 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 1: been here at least one on the field for us 1895 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 1: to Marcus Bradley and then Javon Wims who was with 1896 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 1: us last year on the practice squad. What do you 1897 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 1: see from those two guys? And I know you've been 1898 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,840 Speaker 1: a big fan of JA Marcus is, Yeah, big fan 1899 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,040 Speaker 1: of JA. Marcus Bradley for kind of all the things 1900 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,600 Speaker 1: we wanted in a player. He he is. You know, 1901 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,599 Speaker 1: he's got just a great uh demeanor about himself. He's 1902 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 1: got good character. But as a player, here's a guy 1903 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 1: that's got some strengths. He's got great body control, he 1904 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,759 Speaker 1: catches the ball well, he can play in a multiple position, 1905 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 1: role because he studies so hard and he's got great 1906 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,639 Speaker 1: mental ability uh to function within those roles. So another 1907 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,280 Speaker 1: guy I'm really excited about. I mean this is you 1908 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,080 Speaker 1: know of a room right now that I'm coach and 1909 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 1: that just doesn't have some guys at the top that 1910 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 1: you're looking at to be competitive. I really see the 1911 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,679 Speaker 1: entire room having a chance to be competitive in different 1912 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: roles in different ways. And Whims six to a little 1913 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 1: bit different size profile than Whim's is you know, a 1914 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,800 Speaker 1: bigger type body. Um that again is working hard. He's 1915 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 1: learning our offense. He hasn't been with us very long, 1916 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,599 Speaker 1: so he's kind of learning our system. He's learning, uh 1917 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 1: you know how we do things. Is a Cleveland Brown 1918 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 1: football player, and and I think that he's got again 1919 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,720 Speaker 1: he's competitive and got a chance to help us and 1920 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 1: have a role. Jachim Grant, I know he's been brought 1921 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,479 Speaker 1: here to be a returner but also can do some things. 1922 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 1: He put on his highlights in Chicago and even in 1923 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 1: my end with you and you guys go way back. Uh. 1924 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,120 Speaker 1: He just he just looks so fast. He looks so fast. 1925 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,240 Speaker 1: The first thing when you watch him is he's very 1926 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:54,720 Speaker 1: explosive he's got exceptional speed um and and you know, 1927 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,680 Speaker 1: he's had a good career as far as that that 1928 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,800 Speaker 1: returner and then having a role on offense, and he's 1929 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,960 Speaker 1: always had a role on offense, and that's the same 1930 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 1: type of role we're looking for him to have. It's like, hey, 1931 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 1: the more you can do for us, the more you're 1932 01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna be able to help us. So we're talking to 1933 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,599 Speaker 1: him about, hey, learn, let's learn the whole playbook. Let's 1934 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 1: learn as many positions as you can. Let's see how 1935 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,879 Speaker 1: much you can do for us. I mean, obviously, we're 1936 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,560 Speaker 1: very happy that he's here as our returner because we 1937 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 1: value special teams so much. But at the same time, 1938 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 1: he can really help us in different ways, and right 1939 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 1: now he's working really hard to do that in the 1940 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 1: classroom and on the field. All right, So we round 1941 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 1: out your room, and I'm sure they're gonna be additions, 1942 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 1: whether it be undrafted free agents or perhaps free agents 1943 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:40,560 Speaker 1: still being brought in here to flesh this out. Of 1944 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 1: Michael Woods, who we took later in the draft out 1945 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,800 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma, what did you like about him and what's 1946 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 1: kind of the trait that you're banking on that he 1947 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,400 Speaker 1: can have translate here. Yeah, another guy in the draft process. 1948 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 1: We were very thorough on in our evaluation. Again, our 1949 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,720 Speaker 1: scouting department and Andrew. They did such a great job 1950 01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 1: of identifying him to us, and then once he did that, 1951 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 1: we really did a lot of film study on him. 1952 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,479 Speaker 1: We went back and you know, he played at Arkansas previously, 1953 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,200 Speaker 1: so we really dug down deep into his Arkansas play, 1954 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,760 Speaker 1: looked at him there. We had a chance to visit 1955 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,479 Speaker 1: with him in person. He had an outstanding interview. We 1956 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 1: were very impressed walking away with a person that we 1957 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 1: thought could really fit. You know, again, what we want 1958 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: here is a Cleveland Brown and really excited to have him. 1959 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,599 Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that's going to be able 1960 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,880 Speaker 1: to make a contested catch. He understands how to run routes. 1961 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 1: He has played at a high level and and really 1962 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,799 Speaker 1: outstanding conference. So we're really excited to have him aboard. 1963 01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 1: Is this like the start of the fun time for 1964 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 1: you just getting finally getting to see the ball in 1965 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 1: the air scene, You guys catch the ball a little 1966 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,280 Speaker 1: bit and know that, all right, we're slowly but these 1967 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 1: are the baby steps. He said that we're building the 1968 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 1: foundation right now. But you're a coach your teachers, he said, 1969 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 1: to actually get to see them out there and be 1970 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,599 Speaker 1: able to on the grass teach and coach and see 1971 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 1: the start. This is the best. I mean, this is 1972 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 1: I was telling another one of our coach is today, 1973 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,719 Speaker 1: how awesome is it that we're out on the field 1974 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,160 Speaker 1: working with our players, getting in the classroom again looking 1975 01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,479 Speaker 1: at him in the eye and then seeing him developed. 1976 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,360 Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, it's my job 1977 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: to develop the players in my position, and I it's 1978 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 1: my expectation that the receivers are going to improve, and 1979 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, to see the growth over time is what's 1980 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 1: really rewarding as a coach, you know. And and this 1981 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,600 Speaker 1: is the process that starts at the ground up, that 1982 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 1: we're building the base, building the foundation, and it's a blast. 1983 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really excited to be on the field 1984 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,479 Speaker 1: every day. It beats sitting in the office for sure, 1985 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,120 Speaker 1: you know. And I just can't wait to kind of 1986 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 1: continue in this process leading up to training camp obviously 1987 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 1: later in the summer. So you always talk to them 1988 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 1: about when they leave here, right, come back better than 1989 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 1: you left. And you talk about certain guys like Donovan, 1990 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, he went out there tried to better himself 1991 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,720 Speaker 1: if they come back and notice what you've been doing 1992 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,000 Speaker 1: here in the off season, better in yourself coming in here, 1993 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,680 Speaker 1: all Jack, let's go well, I I mean, I think 1994 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 1: it's to say that in front of the players, you 1995 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,679 Speaker 1: gotta at least go do often physically, right. So so yeah, 1996 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,679 Speaker 1: looking forward to again, looking forward to having these guys around. 1997 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 1: It's fun, you know, and can't wait to just continue. 1998 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,599 Speaker 1: Honestly them sit on something with a bar in their shoulders, 1999 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 1: get up in box, jump like you do on the 2000 01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,640 Speaker 1: reg coach. It is awesome having you here. We're very 2001 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 1: lucky to have you part of this organization and to 2002 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,320 Speaker 1: have you steward these guys hopefully into a great season 2003 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,840 Speaker 1: this year. So thank you for Thank you very much. 2004 01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Well, I hope you give you a pretty 2005 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,760 Speaker 1: good idea of the type of guys who coach on 2006 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 1: this team. They are some of the best most prepared 2007 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,560 Speaker 1: people in all of the National Football League. And the 2008 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 1: idea that this group can be together now for a 2009 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 1: third season and a third off season and yet a 2010 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,240 Speaker 1: first real off season altogether. I think you could hear 2011 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,760 Speaker 1: it in their voices how excited they were to be 2012 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,200 Speaker 1: together to go through a full off season to be 2013 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,640 Speaker 1: able to take the lessons and the building blocks that 2014 01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,559 Speaker 1: were learned here over the course of the last couple 2015 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 1: of months, and then to start to apply them at 2016 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,160 Speaker 1: the end of July through August as we start to 2017 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 1: prepare for what should be a very magical two thousand 2018 01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,439 Speaker 1: and twenty two season. Here with the Cleveland Owns, we 2019 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,599 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this special edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. 2020 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 1: The next level is coming up next. 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