Speaker 1: From the King of sports Books comes the Key Sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Speaker 1: Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Deeker. The NFL Conference championships are set.
Speaker 1: They are ready to go, and so are we. As
Speaker 1: exciting as it is, it's also kind of sad. It's
Speaker 1: also kind of depressing. There's only three games left in
Speaker 1: the NFL season. But look, it's all blue blood logos.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's you know, no Cinderella's here. This
Speaker 1: is This looks like a good final four and young
Speaker 1: quarterback royalty including Mr extremely Relevant. So much to get
Speaker 1: to Jerry Ferrara. Three more chances to win some money
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But how did you do last weekend?
Speaker 1: I did all right. My ten point teasers, which most
Speaker 1: people frowned, the palm, which I've been shouting on all year.
Speaker 1: I have an impeccable record. I didn't even the only
Speaker 1: game I actually needed the points was our beloved Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs because Doug Peterson took the three points instead
Speaker 1: of going for the touchdown, so that blew the cover.
Speaker 1: But I had them. I just put the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the teaser all year long. And that's been very, very successful.
Speaker 1: So I did all right, and I'm looking to make
Speaker 1: some money in the last three games, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I also like how you said our chiefs, I don't
Speaker 1: have a team left anymore. I gotta adopt now, that's
Speaker 1: what happens. See, that's why I always say, you gotta
Speaker 1: have two teams, and I like to have one in
Speaker 1: each conference. Listen to this. Someone in Indiana cashed in
Speaker 1: on a five dollar four leg parlay for each game's
Speaker 1: first touchdown score five dollars paid out seventy two thousand
Speaker 1: seven bucks, and he tweeted like this is life changing money.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's amazing. That's a really good weekend.
Speaker 1: That's a great weekend. And also cheers to him for
Speaker 1: having the guts. I don't know if he had to
Speaker 1: cash out option on this bet, but I'm sure once
Speaker 1: he hit the third out of the fourth leg or
Speaker 1: whatever he had, I'm sure the cash out was kind
Speaker 1: of That's where it becomes deal or no deal. Realize
Speaker 1: you could you could take this money or you could
Speaker 1: open up what's in the in the case. So congrats
Speaker 1: to someone in Indiana who that's an amazing run and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something like that, I think this weekend
Speaker 1: because it just sounds fun. Let's do it. It does
Speaker 1: sound fun. And I was just thinking what would I
Speaker 1: do if the first three cashed out? I feel like
Speaker 1: if I only put five bucks on it, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: why stop now, let's just see this one through. Right.
Speaker 1: But if you're saying, like, okay, what did he win?
Speaker 1: He won seventy two grand, seventy three grand, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the cash out is, but there's just say,
Speaker 1: let's say or something, I mean cash out for you know,
Speaker 1: twelve tho dollars? Take it right? Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wonder. I'm sure someone maybe let us know on
Speaker 1: Twitter what the buyout was in that. So here's something significant.
Speaker 1: Also as it pertains to betting for this coming weekend,
Speaker 1: both points spreads in the a f C and NFC
Speaker 1: Championship are less than a field goal. Again, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I doubt it's going to change much right now. I
Speaker 1: think both games are two and a half, so that's
Speaker 1: only happened twice before in the Super Bowl era. And
Speaker 1: these lines are on the move to like I mentioned,
Speaker 1: especially in Kansas City, Cincinnati and a lot of that
Speaker 1: has to do with Patrick Mahomes ankle injury. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about how all of this is shaking out at
Speaker 1: the end of the show with bet MGMs betting analyst
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew. He also may be gloating because he went
Speaker 1: out to San Francisco. He's a big Niners fan, so
Speaker 1: he had himself a really good weekend. But in Chiefs Bengals,
Speaker 1: the original line is what they call a bad opener
Speaker 1: um because kan City was favored by I want to say,
Speaker 1: like four or five points when it first opened, and
Speaker 1: then Vegas quickly realized that was not right. In addition
Speaker 1: to Peter earlier in the show, coming up, we've got
Speaker 1: NFL insider Greg Rosenthal. He's from NFL Network NFL dot Com.
Speaker 1: He writes in a on the NFL podcast he is
Speaker 1: all over it and he knows everything. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: get him, get him on the show, and get us
Speaker 1: ready for Championships Sunday. Okay, Jerry. Overall, though, I mean
Speaker 1: great weekend, Yes, and I'm very excited to talk to Greg.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk to Peter, But for the
Speaker 1: moment right now, I'm most excited to talk to you
Speaker 1: because you, as we mentioned last week, we're covering the
Speaker 1: game for what Westwood won, right the Chiefs Angles game.
Speaker 1: Your dad was calling the game. You were covered Chief
Speaker 1: Chiefs Jaguar. Sorry, I'm already far ahead. I'm already Jags
Speaker 1: are completely out of my brain already. But I couldn't
Speaker 1: help but think of you as I was watching that
Speaker 1: game and the Mahomes injury happens, and the whole place
Speaker 1: goes what feels like silent for a playoff game, although
Speaker 1: it wasn't silent. What is going on in your world
Speaker 1: covering that game and Patrick Mahomes, biggest star NFL star
Speaker 1: in the world arguably goes down with an injury. What
Speaker 1: is going on in your mind? Jerry? I never going
Speaker 1: to forget this moment. I've I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: big injuries in my time, and there's something different when
Speaker 1: it's happening in real time in front of you, and
Speaker 1: you're right. The place goes quiet. The loudest NFL stadium
Speaker 1: going quiet is quite eerie, and it's nighttime and it's
Speaker 1: missing and the lights are on, and the whole thing
Speaker 1: was just very cinematic. And I am right by Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes like I thought he could spit on me as
Speaker 1: he was yelling. And the coolest thing for me is
Speaker 1: how I'm always going to be left with this impression
Speaker 1: of his lack of quit. And I know that is
Speaker 1: kind of overused. I know people say, oh, he's such
Speaker 1: a competitor about athletes all the time, But my god,
Speaker 1: after seeing it right in front of me, he was
Speaker 1: significantly hurting. I mean he was in pain, like I
Speaker 1: could see it on his face. You could even see
Speaker 1: after he threw a touchdown when he went back out
Speaker 1: and his teammates go to celebrate, I mean, the zoom
Speaker 1: and shot of his face was in so much pain.
Speaker 1: But he gets to the side the mine and of
Speaker 1: course athletic trainers first swarmed him. They taped up his ankle.
Speaker 1: They retaped it up, and he's kind of hobbling. He's
Speaker 1: kind of doing like caphrases, trying to get that ankle
Speaker 1: warmed up. And his offensive coordinator Eric b Enemy, his
Speaker 1: quarterback coach Matt Nagy, and head coach Andy Reid all
Speaker 1: it looked like an intervention. The three of them come
Speaker 1: up around him and are like, you gotta go in
Speaker 1: the locker room. They wanted him to get next Ray,
Speaker 1: and he's just shaking his head adamantly, vehemently, vigorously saying
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, like basically telling him like,
Speaker 1: f off, I'm going back on this field, and teammates
Speaker 1: coming up to him like you're good, and he's just
Speaker 1: not talking to anyone unless he's saying the words I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good, and yeah. I've never seen anything like that,
Speaker 1: the determination to stay not only on the field but
Speaker 1: on the sideline. He did not want to go in
Speaker 1: that locker room. So then ultimately Eric b Enemy comes
Speaker 1: up to him and kind of puts his arm around him,
Speaker 1: and Patrick turns around. He rips off you know those
Speaker 1: Superman capes that they were on the sideline, yells an expletive,
Speaker 1: throws down his helmet, and Jerry I think I'm the
Speaker 1: closest person to him in this moment, and I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm like speechless. And he runs in the locker room
Speaker 1: and I hit up my producer and I say, hey,
Speaker 1: come down to me, come down to me, because as
Speaker 1: a sideline reporter, you have to convince them to open
Speaker 1: up your mic, which is another conversation. And then they
Speaker 1: come down to me. And I just I have the
Speaker 1: first report, and I say, Patrick Mahomes is in the
Speaker 1: locker room. He's really upset about it, blah blah whatever
Speaker 1: I said, And I mean, it was just amazing. And
Speaker 1: then he comes back out and he immediately puts his
Speaker 1: cape back on and his helmet on, so the crowd
Speaker 1: didn't see him run back out, so there was no reaction,
Speaker 1: which was almost crazy. And so I go back on
Speaker 1: the air and I say, Patrick Mahomes is back on
Speaker 1: the sideline, same tape job, and he's got his cape
Speaker 1: on and his helmet on, and I don't think this
Speaker 1: crowd knows he's back out here, kind of implying that
Speaker 1: when he takes a field, which looks like he's planning
Speaker 1: to do, it's going to be like again, it's going
Speaker 1: to be like Superman taking his cap off. Everyone still
Speaker 1: thought he was in the locker room. It was wild.
Speaker 1: I know him going on and on about this, but
Speaker 1: it's a moment I'll never forget. This is great, and
Speaker 1: some of this, you know, you can't really say in
Speaker 1: real time, like my producer even got in my ear.
Speaker 1: Make sure, and this is kind of a funny thing.
Speaker 1: Make sure I'm not reporting on anything that I can
Speaker 1: see with my access that people in the front row
Speaker 1: can't see. Your here. It's really a funny thing. And obviously,
Speaker 1: like you don't want to make a player look bad,
Speaker 1: coaches look bad at anything, So you're kind of doing
Speaker 1: a dance in real time as I'm reporting it. But
Speaker 1: that that's what happened, and it was amazing, Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is amazing. I would be. I think I would be
Speaker 1: terrible at your job because I just reliving that with you.
Speaker 1: I put myself in that position. And here's how all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna her Dad's throwing to me right, and this
Speaker 1: is what I oh, Kevin O, Kevin, shit, it's bad. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. My bet is out the window. My
Speaker 1: bet is Jeeves are not going to cover it's bad.
Speaker 1: And he's telling everyone funk off. He's not getting it's
Speaker 1: crazy down here. N And let me also add in
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are NFL teams can tell you what they
Speaker 1: want to because you have to wait for the official
Speaker 1: word from the team. The Chiefs are notoriously tight lipped,
Speaker 1: and so I'm waiting for their head of communications to
Speaker 1: come over. And it's me and Melissa Stark who's doing
Speaker 1: the game for ENDBC. So he they have to tell
Speaker 1: us one thing and one thing only questionable to return
Speaker 1: or will return or won't return. They can say lower
Speaker 1: body injury, even though everyone can see it's an ankle,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So and they come up
Speaker 1: to me and Melissa Stark and they say ankle injury,
Speaker 1: questionable to return. And the first thing we both ask
Speaker 1: is did he get next ray in the locker room?
Speaker 1: And they say, we can't say. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: so you're you're playing detective down there. It's it's wild.
Speaker 1: And then Melissa and again we kind of go our
Speaker 1: different ways. We're on two different broadcasts. And then later
Speaker 1: I saw that she reported that he got next Ray
Speaker 1: and I honestly don't know how she got that information.
Speaker 1: So it was I mean, it's just a lot. It's
Speaker 1: it makes the profession really exciting. It also you have
Speaker 1: to do a lot of investigative work and then you
Speaker 1: cannot put your foot in your mouth. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: speculate on anything. You cannot speculate. See again, we're gonna
Speaker 1: throw it back down to the sideline that Jerry Ferrar.
Speaker 1: You know, they're telling me he didn't get an next ray.
Speaker 1: But I think that's bullshit. I think he actually got
Speaker 1: I think they're lied to me and I have been
Speaker 1: lied to before, and I mean, yeah, anyways, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, as someone who is really um constant better,
Speaker 1: had you had significant futures bets on the Chiefs, would
Speaker 1: you consider hedging at that point? Yeah, yes, but again
Speaker 1: we're talking about My instincts would be yes. But then also,
Speaker 1: hearing you tell the story about Mahomes is courage and
Speaker 1: it's cool under pressure, just knowing what something like that
Speaker 1: could do for a team. You will talk about leading
Speaker 1: through example. Is there any way now going into this
Speaker 1: Bengals game, And we'll get into who we like in
Speaker 1: that game, but is there anyone who's going to be
Speaker 1: taking their film work lightly, or their practice lightly, or
Speaker 1: their rehab and treatment lightly, knowing that their leader, who
Speaker 1: again probably the biggest NFL star in the world. Also,
Speaker 1: the talent backs up. I've had an high ankle sprain
Speaker 1: playing pick up basketball and I was out for eight weeks.
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine if if a if a linebacker landed
Speaker 1: on my ankle. So to show that kind of toughness,
Speaker 1: I just think that that's gonna go a long way
Speaker 1: with that team. Not that they need any more inspiration,
Speaker 1: but yeah, how do you uh not do the extra
Speaker 1: hour of film work knowing that your quarterback just gut
Speaker 1: it out a game that they could have lost. They
Speaker 1: could have lost that game and it felt like they
Speaker 1: were going to And I've got to say I'm really
Speaker 1: impressed with Jacksonville and talking to Doug Peterson and a
Speaker 1: halftime he said, we got him right where we want him.
Speaker 1: I think at that point they were down seven or ten.
Speaker 1: I think they were down ten, came back, scored a
Speaker 1: field goal, and then they were down seven. And I
Speaker 1: talked to Doug Peterson on the field before the game.
Speaker 1: Could not be more loose and comfortable. That guy is
Speaker 1: just cool. Trevor is cool. We had a Dog Peterson
Speaker 1: love fest. What Andrew Brandt last week? If you were
Speaker 1: I did, I said, I I host a podcast. Uh sorry,
Speaker 1: I co host a podcast and we had Andrew Brandt
Speaker 1: on and he immediately lit up. He loved Andrew. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I and props the Dog Peterson for saying we got
Speaker 1: him right where they want him in an age where
Speaker 1: like similar you're talking about how as a sideline reporter,
Speaker 1: you have to be very very careful what you say. Well,
Speaker 1: coaches don't want to say anything in any of those
Speaker 1: we know that we've seen it. So even having the
Speaker 1: courage to say we got him right where we want them,
Speaker 1: I don't think we get a better SoundBite. Really, And
Speaker 1: as far as NFL coaches, gol So, what a game
Speaker 1: hap before you? That was awesome. I mean so much
Speaker 1: to to unpack with that game. Obviously my heart broke
Speaker 1: a little bit with the Giants. I felt for you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't all that heartbroken or shocked. I again,
Speaker 1: like the minute you go into a game saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Hurts is a little banged up and Lane Johnson is
Speaker 1: not that healthy, and can they beat us three times
Speaker 1: and throw It's like, yeah, yeah, they can because it's
Speaker 1: a really terrible matchup for you. They're really strong on
Speaker 1: both lines, both sides of the ball, and they have
Speaker 1: weapons all over the place. So, but cheers to Philly
Speaker 1: because they've kind of been the best team, or at
Speaker 1: least in the NFC, you could say the NFL for
Speaker 1: most of the year. They had their little slide, which
Speaker 1: still wasn't a slide. It was injury based and it
Speaker 1: seems like they're back to peeking at the right time
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean a thirty eight to seven victory,
Speaker 1: and really that score makes it sound like it was
Speaker 1: a game almost more than it was. It was. It
Speaker 1: was horrible and Jalen Hurts looks so strong right from
Speaker 1: the jump, two past touchdowns, one rush. What gave me
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in his oath was they had
Speaker 1: so many designed runs for him, so they're confident in
Speaker 1: where he's at healthwise. And yeah, like you said, that
Speaker 1: Philly offensive line gave him so much time. But either way,
Speaker 1: cheers to the Giants. That was a great year. As
Speaker 1: a fan, I'm completely grateful. That is way more than
Speaker 1: I expected. I know some people don't like to live
Speaker 1: their fanhood like that, like being satisfied with a loss.
Speaker 1: Um just a great, great, enjoyable season. So thank you
Speaker 1: to all the Giants coaches and players. That was an
Speaker 1: awesome season for me for sure for sure. Okay, looking
Speaker 1: at Cowboys forty Niners defensive battle first and second NFL
Speaker 1: and defense squaring off, and it can be really exciting
Speaker 1: to watch this forty Niners defense played this weekend and
Speaker 1: I think beyond because I think the forty Niners are
Speaker 1: winning this game this weekend. They were so impressive, so fast,
Speaker 1: Like that's the word that everyone keeps using with this
Speaker 1: forty Niners defense. Obviously the matchup Fred Warner with Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 1: Like what that was the patch up the Cowboys wanted.
Speaker 1: They were like, oh good, we got the linebacker on
Speaker 1: CD and wow, I mean that was that play alone
Speaker 1: had a lot of people talking. And then offensively for
Speaker 1: San Francisco, the George Kittle bobble off the face mask.
Speaker 1: That will be an image we see over and over
Speaker 1: and over and him staring down the camera. I mean,
Speaker 1: just fantastic. And when you look at Kittle, McCaffrey, Deebo,
Speaker 1: I mean, these weapons that they have in the backfield,
Speaker 1: let alone catching the ball, I mean, it's it's exciting.
Speaker 1: I've I've got to admit, for as many times as
Speaker 1: the forty Niners have broken my heart as a Packer fan,
Speaker 1: I'm on the forty Niners bandwagon. I like Mr relevant
Speaker 1: brock Purty. He is pretty great. He's definitely not afraid.
Speaker 1: I could tell you that even Cowboys defense is good.
Speaker 1: And I was watching that game knowing like, Okay, these
Speaker 1: are the two. This is the kind of defense the
Speaker 1: Giants would need to beat the Eagles. So already, not
Speaker 1: like it my chances there, but all so just look
Speaker 1: like the play, the kiddle, the bobble those as as
Speaker 1: a Giants fan who seen plays like that, go my way.
Speaker 1: Those are the type of bounces you have to get.
Speaker 1: It's those. It's the fumble that you just your guy
Speaker 1: gets right back on. It's the off the face mask
Speaker 1: bobbling catch, like those little plays that start making you believe, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is meant to be. It's breaking our way because
Speaker 1: both those two teams are pretty evenly matched. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know Dallas and Dad did not have the outcome
Speaker 1: they wanted, and the two picks definitely hurt and some
Speaker 1: weird play calls, but overall, I thought it was a
Speaker 1: really good season for the Cowboys. Disappointing for sure. I
Speaker 1: still think they're loaded with talent, but the Niners have
Speaker 1: the at least to me, the kind of defense that
Speaker 1: could at least really make Philly work. So I'm I
Speaker 1: can't wait for that game to great gate the storylines
Speaker 1: and if Rock Purty goes to the freaking Super Bowl undefeated,
Speaker 1: Mr Irrelevant if I was taller, I'd be like I
Speaker 1: and younger. I'd I wish I could play this guy
Speaker 1: in his movie, but I can't because I'm short and old.
Speaker 1: You can write it. You can write it. The Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner story, Kurt Warner story was so good it got
Speaker 1: a movie American Underdog. This I think as well. Now
Speaker 1: Kurt was undrafted. Technically, Brock was drafted. Okay, before we
Speaker 1: go on to look at the forty Niners ahead, we
Speaker 1: I've got to stay on this game for one more
Speaker 1: second because I've got to unleash on these Cowboys. It's unleash. Okay.
Speaker 1: Another disappointing end of the Cowboys season. Mental errors, bad decisions,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Two interceptions should have been three, They dropped one.
Speaker 1: Brett Mayor poor the kicker, My god, there was never
Speaker 1: more bets placed on a kickers missing extra points or
Speaker 1: more camera work on the kicker's face. I was watching
Speaker 1: that game with my family and we're all just like this,
Speaker 1: poor guy. And then a course it's blocked with a
Speaker 1: bad kick, a low kick, and it also didn't look
Speaker 1: like it was going the right direction. I mean, if
Speaker 1: that wasn't blocked, I don't think that was going in.
Speaker 1: I think he's actually lucky it was blocked, But my god,
Speaker 1: I just it was five to one odds at one
Speaker 1: point Jerry for him to miss an extra point, I mean,
Speaker 1: just absolutely crazy. But just in general, with this, a
Speaker 1: lot of Cowboys fans wake up this week seething furious.
Speaker 1: I've seen people burning jerseys and it feels like a rerun. Really,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners ended their season last year in the
Speaker 1: wild Card felt like deja vous with how it ended,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys now have back to back twelve and
Speaker 1: five seasons. Now, I ask you, is twelve and five
Speaker 1: a successful year? One playoff win a successful year? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it is, But with Dallas, it just doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like that. With a team that is as hyped as
Speaker 1: any every year. We're thinking they said that we hear
Speaker 1: about him so much, we have to see him all
Speaker 1: the time, and dac led the league in interceptions this season,
Speaker 1: so it's not like it was a big surprise that
Speaker 1: it came down to this in the final game. They
Speaker 1: might be losing their defensive coordinator Dan Quinn to Arizona.
Speaker 1: He's already on a second interview there. Their offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore interviewing with the Panthers, and I think a
Speaker 1: few others, So it kind of looks like at least
Speaker 1: one of those two is leaving. I think dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of free agents. Cooper Rush, the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback who filled in for Dac when he was
Speaker 1: injured this year. He's a free agent. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean this completely joking. A lot of people wanted Cooper
Speaker 1: to play because remember they were winning some games with him.
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, whose ankle injury was gruesome to watch it,
Speaker 1: and when they were showing the replay, they kept comparing
Speaker 1: it to Mahomes injury. I thought it looked worse. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be having surgery and significant rehab, and just as
Speaker 1: free agency should really be heating up when he's supposed
Speaker 1: to get his bag, that's when he he is gonna
Speaker 1: be doing all his rehab. So I really hope this
Speaker 1: hasn't set him back, because that guy deserves a lot
Speaker 1: of money. He played so well the season. He played
Speaker 1: better than Ezekiel Elliott. Would Zeke have like twenty six
Speaker 1: yards or something in that game. I'm such a disappointment
Speaker 1: for a guy who makes like a couple of million
Speaker 1: bucks to carry. It seems like, and I just my
Speaker 1: unleash is on Dallas in general. Even their own Twitter
Speaker 1: was taking shots at them. I'm kind of sick of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I'm sick of the Cowboys underachieving. I guess
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're gonna be so show body
Speaker 1: and be such a show, then when you know and
Speaker 1: and I guess to me as someone who's not a
Speaker 1: fan of the team, I think twelve and five, two
Speaker 1: seasons in a row, early playoff exit is a disappointment,
Speaker 1: and I'm just annoyed with them. I agree with everything
Speaker 1: you said. It's a great unleashed I do feel bad
Speaker 1: for the kicker there, because that might be a career
Speaker 1: that we might not see much longer. I start talking
Speaker 1: about people's careers, it's like, all right, I know it
Speaker 1: like was a joke a couple of weeks ago, but
Speaker 1: now it's like, all right, this guy might be out
Speaker 1: of the the NFL. Tony Pollard completely And don't don't listen.
Speaker 1: The two interceptions, for sure hurt and the Niners were
Speaker 1: just a little bit better, but losing Tony Pollard at
Speaker 1: that point in the game was huge. So but I'm
Speaker 1: with you like, yes, it's enough of already. Like now,
Speaker 1: it's almost like the new thing that's assumed every year
Speaker 1: is like the Cowboys will be a disappointment and won't
Speaker 1: go as far as everyone thinks they should. Jerry, Look,
Speaker 1: it's been twenty seven straight seasons without a conference appearance.
Speaker 1: That's tough. When you start looking around in the in
Speaker 1: the title game, you start thinking, like, the Panthers have
Speaker 1: made a super Bowl, you know, the Cardinals have made
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. Like, start looking around, I mean I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Commanders might have just the draught the walk off play,
Speaker 1: the walk off plate was watching Zeke just get drilled flattened,
Speaker 1: and you you understand they obviously going to try to
Speaker 1: laterally a bunch. They didn't even get one. I mean more,
Speaker 1: you know, like, don't maybe leave that party out of
Speaker 1: your interview wherever teams you were interviewing for Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they just fell asleep at that part, but I mean,
Speaker 1: same thing as last season. So yeah, anyways, I feel better.
Speaker 1: I feel ten pounds later. I feel like you got
Speaker 1: something out there. I don't even want to follow that.
Speaker 1: I don't even have the No, this doesn't even qualifies
Speaker 1: in the least, this is like a quick one. I
Speaker 1: hate to keep going back to the Giants game. But
Speaker 1: for everyone criticizing Dable for the fourth and eight that
Speaker 1: early in the game, like I understand, it didn't work out,
Speaker 1: so it's easy to criticize that Giants have been doing
Speaker 1: that all year. Go look at the Titans game, going
Speaker 1: for to walk off win like that. So at that point,
Speaker 1: I think Dable knew early on we got to score
Speaker 1: a bunch of points that our offense might not be
Speaker 1: built for. We were at you know, I think we
Speaker 1: finally crossed midfield or almost at midfield. I think he
Speaker 1: saw the storm come in, and I think that was
Speaker 1: just a guy trying to get every one out of
Speaker 1: the storm safely. And it didn't work out. But let's relax,
Speaker 1: and now we're going to turn on Dable already as
Speaker 1: a coach. Calm down, everyone. Yeah, I'm sad. I know
Speaker 1: you were getting in some Twitter wars turned to twitter fingers.
Speaker 1: The guy he made a bad call, alright, move on.
Speaker 1: Is that really what influenced the game? Coach? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I think he was doing anything he could
Speaker 1: to just smoke in mirror his way through that game.
Speaker 1: But all good, Giants, all good. I like your optimism.
Speaker 1: You know it's to sit here and be right your team.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think it was a successful season.
Speaker 1: What they end up doing at quarterback will be no.
Speaker 1: But were we just sitting here last week saying how
Speaker 1: great Daniel Jones was and I kept saying last week
Speaker 1: he's he looked more like Josh Allen than Josh Allen, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Daniel Jones ara is over. No,
Speaker 1: he might have just gave a few million bucks back
Speaker 1: to the organization, which is fine, which we said it
Speaker 1: to brand last week, or like you know, every company's
Speaker 1: like a dred thousand dollars more on war. He might
Speaker 1: have given back a few million bucks. But either way,
Speaker 1: the Giants haven't necessarily treated him the most fairly in
Speaker 1: his time. They're like all those offensive coordinators, coaches all that.
Speaker 1: You know. It just was been bizarre until Dable and
Speaker 1: Shane got there. So I think everyone will be on
Speaker 1: the same page. I love it. So in the a
Speaker 1: f C, a lot of people were upset about the
Speaker 1: potential neutral site game in Atlanta. Tickets were sold, flights
Speaker 1: were booked, all of this, but the Bengals had another idea.
Speaker 1: They ended what was going to be a lot of controversy.
Speaker 1: I know if if the Bills had made it, that
Speaker 1: would have been the talk all week. Is this really
Speaker 1: isn't fair? This should go through Arrowhead or whatever people thought. Anyways,
Speaker 1: that is going to go through Arrowhead, and Joe Cool
Speaker 1: had something to say about it in our audible of
Speaker 1: the week talk about it yesterday. Just that chip on
Speaker 1: your shoulder, everyone talking about a neutral a NFC championship game,
Speaker 1: not even thinking about you. Guys, how much did that
Speaker 1: motivate you coming into this? You better send those refunds. Okay,
Speaker 1: Let's bring in our guests from around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: NFL Analyst. You also see him on NFL Network. It's
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal for his second appearance. Greg, what made you
Speaker 1: come back? I wanted to brag. I wanted to brag
Speaker 1: because I think I actually could be totally wrong. But
Speaker 1: you had me on when the Russell Wilson trade went down,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I was relatively like low key, mixed,
Speaker 1: like not that excited for the broadcast. I might just
Speaker 1: be lying and wishing that's what That's what it was?
Speaker 1: My recollection? Is it was the day that that happened,
Speaker 1: which on the same day, Am I right? Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: said he was staying in Green Bay, which kind of
Speaker 1: stole the thunder from the move in general. But so
Speaker 1: we had all these questions for you. But I do
Speaker 1: remember saying that you were you were running around, as
Speaker 1: I remember in the offices. Right now, I'm at home
Speaker 1: and we're right back to not knowing where Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is going to be next to sisod. It's kind of
Speaker 1: every pie. Actually, can we start there before we get
Speaker 1: into this weekend's games and all the playoff action, When
Speaker 1: we look at all the quarterbacks who are going to
Speaker 1: be making moves, whether they're free agents or looking to
Speaker 1: be free agents, what are you most excited for in
Speaker 1: this off season? Because once you know that final, the
Speaker 1: final whistle of the Super Bowl, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: when you really get cracking. Yeah, I'm very into the
Speaker 1: free agency period. Already put out like a top fifty
Speaker 1: one free agents. We end up doing a hundred of them.
Speaker 1: I'm into that off season. But you know what's crazy
Speaker 1: I've learned is like it starts now. The trade of
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford happened in Super Bowl week the trade, or
Speaker 1: at least it started to pop up there. Alex Smith
Speaker 1: to Washington happened during Super Bowl Week two, so like
Speaker 1: it could start popping out and you hit it. It's
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks the most excited about because it's it's not
Speaker 1: just Brady and Rodgers, who are great to talk about,
Speaker 1: but it's Geno and Daniel Jones and Jimmy g And
Speaker 1: it's a weirdly long list, like even like the second
Speaker 1: level guys Derek Carr obviously available for trade, but then
Speaker 1: backups like Jake Jacoby Brissett and Teddy Bridgewater, and it's
Speaker 1: just if you go on and on, I've never seen
Speaker 1: this many quarterbacks available. Cooper Rush. Everyone wanted Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: to play this last weekend. He's on the block. Ah,
Speaker 1: he'd be a little lower on my list. I actually
Speaker 1: have it right here. I got Gardner Mins, You've got
Speaker 1: Sam Donald who look good for a couple of games.
Speaker 1: You got Baker could be out there, Mike White, Taylor, Heinik.
Speaker 1: It's like kind of like all the filling quarterbacks of
Speaker 1: the of seasons past are going to be available. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've always said this is like the closest to you know,
Speaker 1: everyone talks about the NBA off season when free agency
Speaker 1: kicks in and tracking players planes and who's going where,
Speaker 1: who's having lunch with who. I think the NFL's finally
Speaker 1: they're at least just at the quarterback position, because you
Speaker 1: start looking around, you named all the quarterbacks, and you
Speaker 1: start looking at the teams. It's one big puzzle, like
Speaker 1: what are the Jet's gonna do? What are the Raiders
Speaker 1: gonna do? And you probably have a lot better of
Speaker 1: a beat on it, but I mean it's too it's
Speaker 1: too hard to even make a prediction right now, I think.
Speaker 1: But hopefully something shakes out in the next two weeks.
Speaker 1: Would be really fun. During Super Bowl Week, someone steals
Speaker 1: the Thunder, I would love it, especially if it's Rogers
Speaker 1: or car which feels like the biggest trades possible. I
Speaker 1: think someone's getting traded in Green Bay. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Jordan's Love more likely than Rogers, just because like,
Speaker 1: the next team that gets Rogers has to pay him
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars next year, and that's just that's a lot.
Speaker 1: Some teams could figure it out, but it's a lot,
Speaker 1: and I think some people might want Jordan's love after
Speaker 1: he showed a little more UH this season, but it's
Speaker 1: not too early to have like a feel like your
Speaker 1: your Giants there, Jerry, Like I got a feeling after
Speaker 1: their press conference. Daniel Jones is more likely to stay
Speaker 1: with the Giants then sae Quon Barkley, for instance. I
Speaker 1: you definitely get a feeling from the Seahawks. They'll probably
Speaker 1: keep Gino Smith. They'll find a way to do that.
Speaker 1: Whereas with Tom Brady, you know, I know he's you know,
Speaker 1: dropping f bombs on his podcast that he doesn't know
Speaker 1: what he's doing. But I feel like I know what
Speaker 1: he's doing and it's not gonna be on the bus.
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure where. Well, what do you feel
Speaker 1: like he's gonna do? You can't just dangle that in
Speaker 1: front of us. Well, I mean, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: look for the best non bucks situation. Most like it
Speaker 1: felt like a Vegas I I was on that corner
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Just because it's so logical. Mark Davis,
Speaker 1: their owner, wanted Tom Brady like it's out there, it's
Speaker 1: public there at the UFC thing. There's been good reporting
Speaker 1: that John Gruden did not and which is really funny
Speaker 1: to think back on it because Brady almost want an
Speaker 1: m VP won a Super Bowl, and I think it
Speaker 1: was an ego thing that Gruden didn't want Brady running
Speaker 1: the show. But Mark Davis is still there, John Gruden
Speaker 1: is not, and who's the coach is Josh McDaniels. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I think we make it a little too complicated, and
Speaker 1: it feels that's the best spot for him. You mentioned
Speaker 1: being here for the Russell Wilson news and then now
Speaker 1: we're all hearing about Sean Payton meeting with Denver and
Speaker 1: all that, And I just can't imagine if I'm Sean Payton.
Speaker 1: First of all, what a position to be in. If
Speaker 1: you're Sean Payton just sitting back. He could sit another
Speaker 1: year and his value will only probably grow. But that
Speaker 1: Denver job, which they have a very talented roster, But
Speaker 1: I don't know if you see Russell Wilson bouncing back
Speaker 1: from this year but also maybe having to give up
Speaker 1: picks which the Broncos don't really even have. So is
Speaker 1: is Denver really a place for Sean Payton? Or she
Speaker 1: just chill and wait for more amazing job opportunities to
Speaker 1: open up. So, yeah, he's talking with Carolina this week,
Speaker 1: or he did. He's talking with Arizona, which to me
Speaker 1: made some sense because of Kyler Murray. But if if
Speaker 1: you take Sean Payton at his word, and I don't,
Speaker 1: to be honest, he says, like ownership, front office matters more.
Speaker 1: We didn't have a quarterback. When we got to New Orleans,
Speaker 1: we figured out. I think he thinks he can make
Speaker 1: any quarterback work. I still think that Russell Wilson contract
Speaker 1: is a mess because if you keep him another year,
Speaker 1: it's like you're committed another year. So it's a contract thing.
Speaker 1: It's a trade thing. But man, Walmart money, like that's
Speaker 1: long money. And I feel like the way Sean Payton
Speaker 1: has worked this is very interesting to me. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of a closet Saints fan. I'm a little annoyed how
Speaker 1: he's worked it. I think there's more going on behind
Speaker 1: the scenes that they're both playing these games in the
Speaker 1: media in terms of well, I might not take a
Speaker 1: job this year, or you know, and then my trade
Speaker 1: value will go down, so you better just get this
Speaker 1: trade done. But he's kind of got the Saints over
Speaker 1: a barrel. He's got all these billionaires over a barrel,
Speaker 1: and no shade to him that he's not being totally upfront.
Speaker 1: You said it, Jerry, like more power to him. He
Speaker 1: learned from uh, your guy Bill Parcels on how to
Speaker 1: kind of work the media and and get everyone interested
Speaker 1: and and he's done a great job. I was joking
Speaker 1: earlier about Cooper Rush, but for real, Dallas is losing
Speaker 1: some players and maybe coordinators. As we're talking about head
Speaker 1: coaches and coordinators interviewing. Both Dallas coordinators are interviewing this week.
Speaker 1: Do you think Dallas takes a step backward? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: Everyone thought that this year because they've been really bad
Speaker 1: at handling success, and they ended up being I think
Speaker 1: a little better this year overall. You know, it ended
Speaker 1: similarly twelve wins. Though. I think dan Quinn gets a
Speaker 1: job in this cycle, I think Denver. If I had
Speaker 1: to guess who Denver ends up hiring, I think it's
Speaker 1: dan Quinn. Just because I'm with you, Jerry that I
Speaker 1: don't know if Sean Payne's gonna want that job. Carolina
Speaker 1: makes more sense to me for him. I think dan
Speaker 1: Quinn has done an incredible job making all that talent
Speaker 1: on defense sing and they do have a lot of needs,
Speaker 1: So you're right. I think Zekiel Elliott should be gone.
Speaker 1: We'll see if Jerry Jones actually can be unemotional and
Speaker 1: do it. Tony Pollard is a free agent. Uh, They've
Speaker 1: definitely got questions on defense. I think that they have
Speaker 1: some holes to fill, all right. I think we gotta
Speaker 1: focus on some of the stuff that just went on
Speaker 1: this past weekend. I mentioned earlier, as you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a Giants fan. Um, semi heartbroken. I mean I saw
Speaker 1: it coming. I knew everyone's on table about the fourth
Speaker 1: and eight go for that. My opinion as a fan,
Speaker 1: they were doing that all year and that's the furthest
Speaker 1: I saw them maybe even getting to in the first half.
Speaker 1: I was all for it, even though it didn't work out. Um,
Speaker 1: is it okay as a Giants fan to not be
Speaker 1: crazy disappointed? I have Giant fans on Twitter mad at
Speaker 1: me because I'm not crazy disappointed we didn't beat the Eagles. No,
Speaker 1: I think you have to be realistic and obviously there
Speaker 1: were high hopes. Like I know some Giants fans too,
Speaker 1: and they were wild confident. I was surprised by that,
Speaker 1: just because you look at the talent on these two teams,
Speaker 1: and yeah, Philly didn't have a healthy quarterback, we thought,
Speaker 1: but they ended up looking pretty great. They remind me
Speaker 1: the Giants of the Bills in their first year under
Speaker 1: Brandon Being and Sean McDermott, where they made the playoffs
Speaker 1: with Tyrod Taylor and I don't know if there'll be
Speaker 1: a quarterback switch there, but that was like a show
Speaker 1: that like, hey, we're not the old Bills were still
Speaker 1: a little while away, and they did take a step
Speaker 1: back actually before they became the Bills that we know now.
Speaker 1: But I've said it for a while with Giants fans,
Speaker 1: I've been so down on the Giants for more than
Speaker 1: a decade. It's probably the Patriots fan in me, but
Speaker 1: I really meant that that. When they brought in Shane
Speaker 1: and Dable, I thought like, this is a start of something,
Speaker 1: and I kind of just trust these dudes to make
Speaker 1: the right decisions. I'm fascinated to see what they do
Speaker 1: with se Quon, though I think it's gonna be tough
Speaker 1: to keep them. You mentioned the Bills. What did you
Speaker 1: make of the Stefon Diggs kind of storming out of
Speaker 1: the building and really the banter between him and Josh
Speaker 1: Allen on the sideline. I mean, you're you're an insider,
Speaker 1: So what did you read between the lines there? Well,
Speaker 1: just that he's like an emotional wide receiver. We saw
Speaker 1: this in Minnesota. I think it just kind of comes
Speaker 1: with the package. I'm with Stefon Diggs where he tweeted
Speaker 1: out like it's easy to criticize the reaction instead of
Speaker 1: the play and in the long run, like the play
Speaker 1: does kind of matter more and you don't want that reaction.
Speaker 1: But I think they all know Stefon Diggs like what
Speaker 1: a competitive is, what a pro he is in terms
Speaker 1: of the work that he puts in that you live
Speaker 1: with that off now over time, Like if that keeps happening,
Speaker 1: if they keep losing, is it something that ends up
Speaker 1: grading on you more and then you make a change?
Speaker 1: Like sure, But Jerry, you mentioned how the n b
Speaker 1: A and the like, the NFL is becoming more like
Speaker 1: the NBA, Like, I'm with you because those wide receiver
Speaker 1: trades last year and these big names now getting traded,
Speaker 1: I think that showed the mistake of trading them, Like
Speaker 1: every receiver that went to a new place changed their team.
Speaker 1: I know the Raiders didn't have a good season, but
Speaker 1: they would still do that trade anytime. And like you
Speaker 1: do not want to get rid of a Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 1: Big time receivers to me are just just about worth
Speaker 1: more than anything except for a quarterback. Yeah, I always
Speaker 1: talk about that Digs trade. Was that may be the
Speaker 1: most even trade that we can talk about for years
Speaker 1: to come, because there's not a winner but the Digs
Speaker 1: for the pick, which becomes justin Jefferson. It's only even though,
Speaker 1: because the Eagles took Jalen Reagor though, like it's only
Speaker 1: even because they had the best wide receiver pick of
Speaker 1: the last like ten years, so like, more power to them.
Speaker 1: They got lucky that the Eagles took Jalen Reagor right
Speaker 1: before them or else that picked. I would not have
Speaker 1: traded stuff on things if I was them either. So Okay,
Speaker 1: now I think I don't know how much love you
Speaker 1: have for the Cowboys. You know, I don't have any
Speaker 1: love for the Cowboys at all. That was certainly a
Speaker 1: winnable game, not the most fun game to watch, and
Speaker 1: so but it came down to the wire. But in
Speaker 1: what on earth is the Dallas Twitter account doing tweeting
Speaker 1: out article? I'm just very confused. Is this the sign
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be major changes in Dallas. Like I know,
Speaker 1: we just talked about it, but I'm still afraid of
Speaker 1: them too. Was a Giants fan. They're a loaded roster.
Speaker 1: I think they're closer than further away. But in this generation,
Speaker 1: how do you do that? As the gold check mark
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Twitter account, I mean, I kind of loved it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push back here just because please do so.
Speaker 1: I worked for NFL dot com and everyone thinks, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't write as much as they used to, but like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys are biased. You're always carrying the water for
Speaker 1: the shield, and and we just say what we feel
Speaker 1: on our podcasts, and we were critical when we can.
Speaker 1: And there's certain third rail issues like ownership that are
Speaker 1: you definitely gotta be a little more careful than if
Speaker 1: you were elsewhere. But like I know people that work
Speaker 1: for team sites and like some actually are pretty critical
Speaker 1: and and get good get give good information, and then
Speaker 1: there's others that are like pr arms that add no value,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like those guys are useless. So now when
Speaker 1: one is out there, I kind of Jerry Jones. It
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that Jerry Jones. I've heard some people
Speaker 1: talk that. Jerry Jones basically told his website like in general,
Speaker 1: do whatever you guys want, and they have some really
Speaker 1: good writers over there and stuff, and like he doesn't mind,
Speaker 1: Like if Jerry Jones, if you I know you're not
Speaker 1: a fan, but if nothing else, he wants that smoke.
Speaker 1: Like he like doesn't care if you talk trash on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys apparently even if you work for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Oh man, Jerry, how can you say that
Speaker 1: wasn't a fun game to watch? That was such a
Speaker 1: fun game, Like I just I'm telling you, I knew
Speaker 1: my face going into my night game as a Giants fan,
Speaker 1: So I just I just didn't see it being that competitive.
Speaker 1: So it was like eighties ninet nineties football when people
Speaker 1: ask like like the good old days, and I like
Speaker 1: scoring more ultimately, but when they asked for the good
Speaker 1: old days, it's kind of like games like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, where it's like two great defenses
Speaker 1: and timely offense. Well that's how I was watching it
Speaker 1: to Greg and Olivia. I was watching it kind of
Speaker 1: already no defeatist attitude, but watching and watching it scouting
Speaker 1: the defenses because then watching that Giants Eagles game. I
Speaker 1: knew the Giants were gonna have a hard time stopping
Speaker 1: that offense, but then seeing the surgical ease that they
Speaker 1: had with that defense, I really do think that the
Speaker 1: best team won Niners Cowboys wise. As good as the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defenses, I think the Niners defense might be a
Speaker 1: slightly better matchup for that Eagles offensive defense. It is
Speaker 1: necessary you need a Fred Warner because I don't know
Speaker 1: that the Eagles have six guys on offense that could
Speaker 1: touched the ball in short yardage and turning into big
Speaker 1: plays at any time. It's the matchup I've wanted to see.
Speaker 1: I was kind of rooting for the Cowboys just because
Speaker 1: I feel seeing I feel bad for Dak, who's like
Speaker 1: an incredibly successful person and what he does is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just saying, like, as a human, he's achieved more.
Speaker 1: It is better at what he does than than I'll
Speaker 1: ever be at what I do. I think he's a
Speaker 1: great quarterback, maybe not a top five, top six quarterback,
Speaker 1: but I kind of want to see him have his moment,
Speaker 1: and so for him to shrink in that moment was
Speaker 1: hard for me to see. But just as a football fan,
Speaker 1: forty Niners Eagles is the better matchup. These are the
Speaker 1: two teams. These are the two matchups in both conferences
Speaker 1: that I wanted to see the most, and that one
Speaker 1: in the NFC especially, Like I have no idea how
Speaker 1: it's gonna go, but I'm with you, Jerry. Like their
Speaker 1: pass rush and especially their linebackers being able to maybe
Speaker 1: contain Hurts in the running game. Um, it helps stop
Speaker 1: Dallas Gotter w where who I think is just even
Speaker 1: bigger than you realize for the goals is huge, and
Speaker 1: I think it'll be much more of a defensive game,
Speaker 1: certainly than that. The Giants put up well when we
Speaker 1: looked at what Jalen Hurts was able to do, again
Speaker 1: with a lot of question marks around him, definitely benefiting
Speaker 1: from the bye week. I think he had so much protection,
Speaker 1: he had so much time his offensive line dominated. They
Speaker 1: had to sixty eight on the ground six point one
Speaker 1: per rush. So as you look more at that matchup
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball and Nick Bosa in
Speaker 1: this forty Niners defense, do you think it'll be a
Speaker 1: different story. Yeah, They're not gonna be able to run
Speaker 1: that well. The Giants were a great matchup for them.
Speaker 1: They knew it, and it was almost like a light
Speaker 1: warm up for this NFC Championship. I didn't think that
Speaker 1: going into the game. I picked the Giants to cover,
Speaker 1: so I was crazy. I mean I had the Eagles winning,
Speaker 1: but so it's not like I knew. But the way
Speaker 1: it played out, now you look at this matchup, there's
Speaker 1: no way they're going to run the ball that well.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to win on the outside. Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: still doesn't get the credit for what a good pocket
Speaker 1: passer is. He's different than Maho Homes or Josh Allen
Speaker 1: or you know, even some of the running quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: that like when he wins throwing the ball, it is
Speaker 1: really from the pocket and he's kind of a hit
Speaker 1: his back foot and throw some beautiful deep balls. That's
Speaker 1: actually not what you necessarily see out of Mahomes or Allan,
Speaker 1: Like he's not a second reaction thrower Jalen Hurts. So
Speaker 1: to me, that's where the mismatches in terms of them
Speaker 1: against their cornerbacks and the safety. So I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be much more of a DeVonta Smith
Speaker 1: A G. Brown got her too, But winning on the
Speaker 1: outside and Hurts kind of showing that he really has improved,
Speaker 1: like I'm talking about compared to where he was in
Speaker 1: the playoffs a year ago when the Bucks really confused him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anytime you're a fan saying, oh, well, you know Hurts
Speaker 1: is injured and Lane Johnson is not. You know, that's
Speaker 1: not the things you need to be talking about before
Speaker 1: a game. All right, last thing on the NFC, and
Speaker 1: we'll definitely kick over to the a f C. And
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about quarterbacks. I think one of
Speaker 1: the more fascinating potential decisions to be made is if
Speaker 1: the Niners do run the table right and pretty will
Speaker 1: step into uncharted territory going undefeated, winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He has to keep his job, right, Greig like, could
Speaker 1: they go into next season saying, well, it's an open
Speaker 1: competition here, Trey Lances back healthy, Jimmy G's parted ways,
Speaker 1: it's a think you have a quarterback competition when a
Speaker 1: guy who's never lost and won the Super Bowl. No,
Speaker 1: they won't. I wonder unless he totally bombs out this week,
Speaker 1: that might already be settled. Not that Trey lances future
Speaker 1: is done there, but that Brack Purdy goes into it
Speaker 1: as the starter. I think they love the way he
Speaker 1: runs the offense. I think he has a higher ceiling
Speaker 1: than Jimmy G. I think he's already playing at a
Speaker 1: similar or better level to Jimmy G. Certainly there's some
Speaker 1: veteran things Jimmy G knows that Pretty doesn't. But like
Speaker 1: Pretty makes extra plays. I think he doesn't play scared,
Speaker 1: and I think they love him. And it's weird because
Speaker 1: he's a late seventh round pick, But if he was
Speaker 1: a second round pick, you'd just be like, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: the dude, and we move forward, not that he's going
Speaker 1: to be a top five quarterback, but that he's going
Speaker 1: to be the guy next year. I feel like almost
Speaker 1: in any scenario and that they're gonna have lands there
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be awkward, but you know, there they
Speaker 1: can handle it. Okay, let's go over to the a
Speaker 1: f C. I live in Kansas City. I'm a Chiefs fan.
Speaker 1: I was working the game and I was right by
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes as this happened. When he threw off the helmet,
Speaker 1: throw off the cape. It was a moment I'll never forget. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with him as a competitor. But now
Speaker 1: this ankle sprain, which he was basically on one leg
Speaker 1: to finish that game, and I promise you it was
Speaker 1: even worse up close than it was on TV. He's
Speaker 1: saying it's not as bad as the one in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: And he's not practicing this week, and he's never played
Speaker 1: without practicing that week, But it looks like that might
Speaker 1: kind of be the plan. What are you expecting from
Speaker 1: Mahomes and the whole Chief's offense and what they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to do without him or with him limited
Speaker 1: even I have this theory that it's almost like a
Speaker 1: like a great artist sometimes does his best work, like
Speaker 1: if you put limitations on it, like writers talk about
Speaker 1: the authors, and that now you're asking Andy Reid and
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes to come up with a way to win
Speaker 1: without his mobility. And this Chief's team, to me, feels
Speaker 1: better suited than ones in the past because they're running
Speaker 1: the ball well, really well. I mean that that won
Speaker 1: them that game. They ran the ball with even Cincinnati
Speaker 1: last time really well in week thirteen. That that that
Speaker 1: was huge. And then Mahomes is different than he was
Speaker 1: in when he won the m v P he can
Speaker 1: win from the pocket. He can kill you with his
Speaker 1: decision making, and like his numbers actually got better Olivia
Speaker 1: in that game. I don't know how it happened, but
Speaker 1: if you look at the yards per attempt, they went
Speaker 1: up and he wasn't he wasn't incredible, but man, he
Speaker 1: still made some big throws with good velocity, made good decisions.
Speaker 1: There was the last touchdown. I just never count that
Speaker 1: dude out. I still think it's gonna be tough to win,
Speaker 1: but I feel like their offense, I'm still more worried
Speaker 1: about their defense than I am about their offense. Even
Speaker 1: with Mahomes with his ankle injury. That's sort of what
Speaker 1: I worry about cause I think back to the last
Speaker 1: time Mahomes had this injury. In the last time you
Speaker 1: saw Chad Henny, you come in and break all the
Speaker 1: Browns fans hearts and then you know, heroically he got
Speaker 1: them to the Super Bowl. But then against a good
Speaker 1: defense with Tampa, you just saw his mobility was limited.
Speaker 1: They had offensive line problems as well, so it wasn't
Speaker 1: all the injury, And I'm just worried that this is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a repeat, meaning like if they
Speaker 1: do beat Cincinnati and it's heroic and I'm sorry, Olivia,
Speaker 1: and it can't happen, of course, But then are they
Speaker 1: just walking into the super Bowl? Those high ankle sprains,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't go away, even in two three weeks,
Speaker 1: still gonna be painful. I just wonder, even if he
Speaker 1: gets to the sup Bowl against forty nine or an
Speaker 1: Eagles defense that has a million sacks in the last
Speaker 1: ten games, you know, is he even in more trouble?
Speaker 1: And would the best Super Bowl be entertainment? Why? Sorry, Olivia.
Speaker 1: If it's the Cincinnati Bengals and Joe Burrow, I think
Speaker 1: either would just fan I don't love, I'm just a
Speaker 1: fan perspective. I think either would be great. I'm torn
Speaker 1: here because my instinct is to pick the Bengals too.
Speaker 1: I picked them to beat the Bills, and I think
Speaker 1: they might be a better team than the Chiefs. Anyways,
Speaker 1: like a neutral site that said, like Mahomes to me,
Speaker 1: is the best player I've ever seen play, Like he's
Speaker 1: the best player to enter the league since I started
Speaker 1: covering the league twenty seasons ago. And so I don't
Speaker 1: I don't try to pretend I know anything about the
Speaker 1: guys before I just saw them on NFL Prime Time
Speaker 1: or just hear what people say. But in those twenty years,
Speaker 1: he's the best player, so to me, Jerry, like, if
Speaker 1: he overcomes the high nicles, right and then wins this game,
Speaker 1: that's some Jordan's stuff, and you get excited about maybe
Speaker 1: he gets healthier for the super Bowl. So either way,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I almost wish this was the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But either way, like it's amazing. Okay, two things I
Speaker 1: think we're throwing out Michael Jordan's comparison to literally this
Speaker 1: week Jalen Hurts with Michael Jordan's said seriality. And another thing, Greg, Now,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how old you are. If
Speaker 1: you've been covering the league twenty years, you look much younger.
Speaker 1: I'm about to turn forty four. Is twenty years right?
Speaker 1: That might not even right. The first season I did
Speaker 1: a little bit was two thousand three. My first super
Speaker 1: Bowl though, was watching the Patriots finished off their eight
Speaker 1: seed in one season. Jerry, So I had to learn
Speaker 1: how to be a professional there in the crowd for
Speaker 1: that one. That was my first one. Listen, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: forty three years old with you, and uh, that's why
Speaker 1: the Giant. I find it hard to get mad at
Speaker 1: him because of that. Even going back to those years,
Speaker 1: and I skipped that Super Bowl like a total scared,
Speaker 1: thinking we were gonna lose. I had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: go as in Arizona, so full circle, and I said,
Speaker 1: and I said no, And I watched it with three
Speaker 1: people in my house while we all cowered in the
Speaker 1: corner because we were terrified of that game. Oh man,
Speaker 1: well the Giants fans showed up in Glendale and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I have bad memories of that game. But yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never seen I don't need to see more to see
Speaker 1: save Mahomes is the best player I've ever seen. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he hasn't played as long as Brady, but
Speaker 1: he's the best. So looking at the way teams are
Speaker 1: structured now and the way people are loading up their
Speaker 1: rosters also NBA like super team like and winning quickly,
Speaker 1: do you think this is now the age of aggressive
Speaker 1: gms like less need when all in last year, John
Speaker 1: Lynch did it this year, especially with Christian, Howie Roseman
Speaker 1: and Philly Is this just the way business will be
Speaker 1: done now? Yes? Because I just think the talk about
Speaker 1: window is overrated. I thought the Patriots proved that a
Speaker 1: little bit the way they sustained success. I think Green
Speaker 1: Babe and has to a much lesser degree. They didn't
Speaker 1: get it done in the playoffs, but they've always been good.
Speaker 1: If you have that quarterback, be aggressive around him because
Speaker 1: you can still make some mistakes. The Patriots almost won
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl where they had the thirty first best
Speaker 1: defense in the league. Like, so take big swings. And
Speaker 1: the reason I say yes is because I think trades
Speaker 1: is going to be a bigger and bigger part of
Speaker 1: the equation here, because look, I'm making this free agent list.
Speaker 1: It's not great, like teams don't let great players get
Speaker 1: to free agency. But since teams have done a good
Speaker 1: job managing having so much cap space, there's more flexibility
Speaker 1: for trades. And I think you saw the Patriots and
Speaker 1: the Eagles especially be on the forefront of that last decade.
Speaker 1: They were the two teams that traded the most I remember,
Speaker 1: and now you're just seeing more and more teams like
Speaker 1: make trades. It's better for fans too, but I just
Speaker 1: think it's like one of the only good ways to
Speaker 1: get good players now is making trades. So speaking to that,
Speaker 1: down of all the fan bases that had the tough
Speaker 1: weekend and lost, Dallas, Giants, Bills, Jaguars. You know, which
Speaker 1: of those four teams, if you're thinking about it from
Speaker 1: a GM perspective, has their work cut out for them
Speaker 1: most And you can make the case I will say
Speaker 1: to just remember, you know, with Dallas, obviously they're still loaded,
Speaker 1: but we're already now talking about the quarterback situation after
Speaker 1: one bad game. So which of those four teams you
Speaker 1: think that GM has the most cut outfit I'm going
Speaker 1: into the next season. Well, I think it's the Giants,
Speaker 1: just because they have the most talent to get, but
Speaker 1: they also have lower expectations. But they have the most
Speaker 1: holes to fill. Twelve their starters are free agents, and
Speaker 1: that they already weren't that talented. It's hard to find
Speaker 1: wide receivers as we know. I think the Bills, though,
Speaker 1: are the other team that stands out, just because you
Speaker 1: really saw a change in the expectations and the fan
Speaker 1: base with everything they went through this year with themar
Speaker 1: Hamlin and everything out. It's been a terrible year in
Speaker 1: Buffalo injuries but also just real life stuff. Um, you
Speaker 1: would think they would be somewhat understanding, but man, they're upset,
Speaker 1: like everyone wants people fired. They actually haven't drafted like
Speaker 1: a pro bowler in about four or five years, so
Speaker 1: that they've they haven't done a good job. They have talent,
Speaker 1: but they just kind of kept it. They need to
Speaker 1: find new talent. I just think the bar is so
Speaker 1: high with them now with Josh Allen that like any
Speaker 1: step back, and I think the ANFC East is tougher,
Speaker 1: people will really be hard on them. So just expectation wise,
Speaker 1: I think the Bills do have some holes to fill.
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds as a free agent, Jordan Player is a
Speaker 1: free agent. They have some problems up front on offense too. Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you think, Jerry? Final prediction for this weekend?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go ahead and end there? Sure?
Speaker 1: I want to hear you guys first, Oh, go round, Robin.
Speaker 1: I actually, as much as I was hyping up the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and all that, I'm very concerned. I think I
Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow is exactly where he wants to be,
Speaker 1: and I think they smell blood and I like the
Speaker 1: Bengals here. I gotta say, wow, was that allowed that?
Speaker 1: You know what she's doing right? I'm not this week
Speaker 1: reverse psychology. You're doing reverse like I do this all
Speaker 1: the time. Greg, you got to tack against your team.
Speaker 1: And then I like San Francisco and I'm not talking spread.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk that later in the show with Peter Andrew.
Speaker 1: Both games are two and a half point games. But
Speaker 1: I just money line. I like Bengals San Francisco. I
Speaker 1: I I also like the Bengals. I think that, um,
Speaker 1: this is just gonna be so much fun for hopefully
Speaker 1: the next ten years getting to watch Mahomes verse Borrow.
Speaker 1: I don't want to discount Josh Allen and whatever other
Speaker 1: quarterbacks will enter into the a f C because they
Speaker 1: all seem to be going over there. But I will
Speaker 1: say to your point, yeah, if Mahomes does this win,
Speaker 1: this win with the injury will rank up there and
Speaker 1: quarterback victories for sure. But I'm going with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I saw enough. I have total respect for the forty
Speaker 1: Niners and Brock Purty, but I just really don't know
Speaker 1: how you stopped that offense. It's so confusing and everyone
Speaker 1: could get the ball. And also I think they have
Speaker 1: the best offensive and defensive line in football. No disrespect
Speaker 1: to Bosa just all around. I just think they have
Speaker 1: the two best lines in football. So I'm going Eagles
Speaker 1: Bengals Super Bowl. I have the same one. Sorry for
Speaker 1: throwing it back to you, guys. It's like earlier in
Speaker 1: the week, I'm like, do I want to lock myself
Speaker 1: in here? I gotta think about it. Uh No, I'm
Speaker 1: with you on the Eagles. So that's I had the
Speaker 1: Eagles winning the Super Bowl before the season. My pick
Speaker 1: was Eagles Chiefs before the season, which is looking like
Speaker 1: amazing right now. They have one seeds. I'm with you
Speaker 1: on the line play, like that's where they spend their money.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you think of them. They have
Speaker 1: a very forward thinking, analytics driven front office, and one
Speaker 1: of the their tenants is really like spend on lineman,
Speaker 1: offensive line, defensive line. That you can't have enough high
Speaker 1: draft picks. You can't spend enough money, Like if you
Speaker 1: just have seven of those dudes on each side, like it,
Speaker 1: spend it all there and everything else is gonna look better.
Speaker 1: And they've done a great job with that with some
Speaker 1: of their pickups. So I'm with you on the egos.
Speaker 1: It feels weird, but I think the Bengals are gonna
Speaker 1: win this game. Even though you know I had the
Speaker 1: Chiefs before the season. The injuries enough to make me
Speaker 1: flip it. I might have taken the Bengals anyway. It's
Speaker 1: just something about this team, man, and I'm all about
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and I think that mismatch them versus the
Speaker 1: chief secondary is what gets it done for them. Okay,
Speaker 1: good place to end, Greg, You're welcome back anytime. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun with you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You can follow Greg Rosenthal on Twitter at Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: with two g's for a little something extract, Greg, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much, Thanks guy. I finally did it. I finished
Speaker 1: season six and it was very good. You warned me.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of love triangles, and you're right.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe how it ends with an engagement. I
Speaker 1: guess I shouldn't say who in case it gives it away.
Speaker 1: But for your character, for Turtle, Jamie goes to New
Speaker 1: Zealand and she tries to test you and at the
Speaker 1: airport says, you can see other people blah blah, and
Speaker 1: you cry and she was mad that you didn't cry.
Speaker 1: And then this seems very dramatic. She leaves and you
Speaker 1: turn around and you do cry. I'm curious as an
Speaker 1: actor did you do because you do turn around? So
Speaker 1: I was thinking, oh, this could have been the eye
Speaker 1: drops or what do you do? Listen? That was real hears.
Speaker 1: It was something I've always been good at since I
Speaker 1: was a little kid. I can summon that up when
Speaker 1: I need it. It's actually funny. That's how we used
Speaker 1: that skill. One time. We went up to the schoolyard
Speaker 1: to play hoops one time, and we're like twelve years old,
Speaker 1: but we didn't have a ball, and we thought maybe
Speaker 1: it would be like an extra ball we could bumm
Speaker 1: from someone to shoot around. And there was like a
Speaker 1: game going on and they were finishing up and we
Speaker 1: needed a ball and they had one other one. Some
Speaker 1: guy was an older kid was shooting around. So I
Speaker 1: pretend I put the tears on and I ran up
Speaker 1: saying that was my ball, and I left it in
Speaker 1: the schoolyard. The night before, my mom's so mad at
Speaker 1: lost my I was hysterical crying in the older dude
Speaker 1: just like, here, take it, take the ball. I've always
Speaker 1: had that skill. But I will say, obviously entourage not
Speaker 1: a huge emotional show. It's a comedy. I think I
Speaker 1: was the first main cast member to tear up like that,
Speaker 1: And I will say I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: well received. I don't know if people liked all the
Speaker 1: male emotion back then. But those were real, a real
Speaker 1: to you. I might have been listening to boys to
Speaker 1: mend in between takes, to get in the mood, to
Speaker 1: get a little sad, real tears wells magice being stuck
Speaker 1: on a flight to New Zealand from l A and
Speaker 1: then you find out you're going to see It's like,
Speaker 1: don't come here, awful, Oh my god. And that's what
Speaker 1: happens to your character, and it sucks. It's funny too.
Speaker 1: One of the women who played one of the flight attendants,
Speaker 1: Nikki Wheel, and I end up doing a movie years
Speaker 1: later with her that takes place entirely on an airplane.
Speaker 1: I I swear at her and I are we're married.
Speaker 1: We're a newly married couple in the movie. It's a
Speaker 1: horror movie that takes place on the plane. I'm not
Speaker 1: suggesting anybody go watch this movie, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: iron ironic that her and I would then be on
Speaker 1: the plane for two months shooting a movie. Season six
Speaker 1: had some ups and downs, right, Like I told you,
Speaker 1: it was heavy with love triangles and relationships. But then
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of great cameos and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, last question on season six, Lebron James
Speaker 1: and Matt Damon and Jim Edmonds the baseball player of
Speaker 1: all people quick cameo at the airport. Now, your character
Speaker 1: is not in that scene in New Zealand. I know,
Speaker 1: of course, like and look, we're all big sports fans,
Speaker 1: but I don't think anyone would argue who the biggest
Speaker 1: basketball fan is in the can. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: like any of them argue Connolly's got hockey, Dylan's like baseball.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I wasn't there. It wasn't even like a visitor.
Speaker 1: So Lebron came worked on the show. But we did
Speaker 1: have a dinner. I think after we wrapped that, I
Speaker 1: was at uh it might have been like a back
Speaker 1: room at Mastro's something like that. In Beverly Hills. Lebron
Speaker 1: Maverick was there, Matt Damon. Funny quick story with Matt
Speaker 1: Damon and we mentioned like, you know, basketball. He was
Speaker 1: recently at courtside at the Knicks game, right and they
Speaker 1: always show, like even when I go like they do
Speaker 1: they show they go to Celebrity Row, they show a
Speaker 1: clip and they cut to the actor. They freaking showed
Speaker 1: this is Matt Damon. They showed his cameo from Entourage
Speaker 1: as his clip. Yes, if you go on and I
Speaker 1: actually have to get back. There's a couple of reporters
Speaker 1: who hit me up wanting to like do a story
Speaker 1: on it because they thought it was hilarious of all
Speaker 1: of things to pick, I love you New York Knicks.
Speaker 1: Maybe you were trolling everyone, but that Oven twelve Jason Bourne,
Speaker 1: a little someone named Jason Bourne good Will hunting, but
Speaker 1: they showed his cameo from Entourage. I'm sorry, I must
Speaker 1: fell off my chair. Um in my favorite, my favorite
Speaker 1: movie of all time is the talented Mr Ripley Awesome, awesome,
Speaker 1: Favorite mont And honestly, he was a prime example of
Speaker 1: someone who came on wanting to do something poke fun
Speaker 1: to himself a little bit. And there's even like a
Speaker 1: great did you stick around to like after the credits
Speaker 1: of that episode to see there's like a post credit
Speaker 1: scene where it's just him doing a bunch of different takes,
Speaker 1: yelling at Vince on the phone and he has a
Speaker 1: complete meltdown, screaming at him like I think all your
Speaker 1: movies sucking, suck. How do you get I come there,
Speaker 1: I'm calling you, like he's freaking out, go back. There's
Speaker 1: a post credit thing. Awesome. But yeah, Lebron him on
Speaker 1: and this was like not long after I think on
Speaker 1: like p t I Kornheiser when talking about like math
Speaker 1: and Lebron said like this is when they formed like
Speaker 1: their business and all that, and he said, this is
Speaker 1: exactly what Vince and E would do. Will Bon. He
Speaker 1: said that to Wilbon on PTI years ago. So just
Speaker 1: this is that. That's the high points of the season,
Speaker 1: for sure. It was. It was an interesting season six.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you finished it. Oh it was amazing. Love
Speaker 1: season six. Now I gotta start season seven again. I
Speaker 1: always sy this. I watched on T at like six am.
Speaker 1: It's like what I turned on in the morning when
Speaker 1: I'm up with the baby. I'm like, all right, and
Speaker 1: he I'm not kidding. He watches the show. His eyes
Speaker 1: are That's why season I can't wait. I'm curious for
Speaker 1: your thoughts on season seven. Controversial season all right, more
Speaker 1: to come But in the meantime, let's get to bet
Speaker 1: MGM betty expert Peter Andrew to talk about this weekend's game.
Speaker 1: All right, fresh and maybe not so fresh from a
Speaker 1: red eye flight back from the Bay Area, is our
Speaker 1: resident forty Niners fan who was just sitting here in
Speaker 1: a jersey and a hat, and I hope these have
Speaker 1: been washed maybe since the long flight. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a great day in San Francisco. How
Speaker 1: was it, Peter? It was amazing, have been washed. I
Speaker 1: had to rock rock my guy George Kittle here after
Speaker 1: his stellar performance, amazing catch. We're clean here. I don't
Speaker 1: have the Niners Pa Jamazon, so it's just top. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I went. It is amazing team look,
Speaker 1: great defense, was balling, got a little help from Dock
Speaker 1: on some questionable throws, but it was amazing experience at
Speaker 1: LEVI and what was your betting angle? I was I
Speaker 1: hit my straight bet minus three half, but I missed
Speaker 1: by five yards my big bet. I needed the Caffrey
Speaker 1: forty plus rushing yards. He had that calf bruise whatever
Speaker 1: was had Kittle yards. I had a spread. I had
Speaker 1: the under I had a lot of different things, so
Speaker 1: one easily run kind of cost me a couple hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: But it's okay as long as we get the w
Speaker 1: Tailgate was good. Tailgate was amazing. We did three and
Speaker 1: a half four hours. I met a couple of guys
Speaker 1: at the super Bowl. Um, a couple of met some
Speaker 1: guys at the super Bowl in Miami a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, and every year they invite me back. So
Speaker 1: grateful for them to quell the shots. Mark's ribbed corn.
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it, we had it. So that's
Speaker 1: why the flight was so rough on the way home
Speaker 1: that this sounds like the sounds like Hangover four Part four.
Speaker 1: Met some guys at the super Bowl five years ago.
Speaker 1: Every year you go out, we think we just came
Speaker 1: up with a Hangover Part four. So okay, you got
Speaker 1: a chance now to watch everything now. The spreads have
Speaker 1: been changing like crazy this week. Okay, mainly that Bengals
Speaker 1: Chiefs game, obviously with the Mahomes injury. But when you
Speaker 1: saw that opening line Chiefs Bangles, what did you first think?
Speaker 1: Because I even thought I was even a little puzzled
Speaker 1: by that opening line, and now where it is now,
Speaker 1: I don't even I gotta check because it's changing so quickly. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: you take out the Mahomes injury and it makes more sense.
Speaker 1: But he looked pretty bad last week, and I think
Speaker 1: they're lucky he was able to come back in able
Speaker 1: to do what they needed to do. That line puzzled
Speaker 1: me too, But as many know that are part of
Speaker 1: the betting industry or or close to it, sharp money
Speaker 1: dictates a lot of these things, especially early on the week,
Speaker 1: whether you have some inside knowledge or these guys have
Speaker 1: a typically positive hunch. That's what dictated that line moving
Speaker 1: so where it was could have gone down too close
Speaker 1: to a pick um, but instead went the complete opposite
Speaker 1: way and ended up being a three to four point
Speaker 1: swing to the Bengals, which I think makes sense. It's
Speaker 1: you have to go with the healthy team. They're hot
Speaker 1: right now. They looked great against the Bills and and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are dealing with a pretty significant injury. This
Speaker 1: isn't Darius Tony, this isn't some lineman. This is your
Speaker 1: probably the best quarterback of our generation that's pretty banged up,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna make him throw the ball and try
Speaker 1: to throw the ball, and he's gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure this week, especially if at ankles in your So,
Speaker 1: I think the line moved in the right way, so
Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes. Do you know, off the
Speaker 1: top of your head, is this the first time the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are underdog all year? I think so, I think
Speaker 1: it actually is. I mean, it's kind of hard to alry. Look,
Speaker 1: I I I've already feel pretty good about the Bengals,
Speaker 1: but it's hard to say, Like if you just think
Speaker 1: about like a restaurants, like, hey, today we're serving the
Speaker 1: Chiefs underdog plate. We haven't served it yet this year?
Speaker 1: Would you like to try? It's almost like you gotta
Speaker 1: try it, right, Yeah, it's any other team you maybe
Speaker 1: second guess it. I don't know, it's it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really interesting, the dynamic of the Bengals having their number
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, there's so many things you can
Speaker 1: factor into this. But it will be a close game.
Speaker 1: As much as Mahomes will make a difference with his injury,
Speaker 1: I think it's still a really tight game. So I
Speaker 1: highly doubt it goes anything more than three ish points
Speaker 1: in favor of the Bengals, and we'll see the money
Speaker 1: changes things as the week goes on. As soon as
Speaker 1: the news wire comes around, it comes out of his health.
Speaker 1: Things are gonna excuw it. So it's gonna be really
Speaker 1: interesting to see up until Thursday, Friday, and then obviously
Speaker 1: until the weekend. Yeah, both games are really close. As
Speaker 1: we record right now Tuesday, it's just two and a
Speaker 1: half point spreads for both of them, which is crazy,
Speaker 1: less than a field goal that's only happened twice before
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl era. So do you have advice
Speaker 1: to betters when the line is that small and the
Speaker 1: games are this important, what to do to help sway
Speaker 1: your mind? I have a couple of pieces of advice.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the swaying, but I think value perspective.
Speaker 1: If you really feel good about a team that two
Speaker 1: and a half point is, it's tricky. So I would
Speaker 1: just say take the money line, get the extra value.
Speaker 1: The other thing you can do is take the alternate spread.
Speaker 1: So we talked about teasers a lot on the show,
Speaker 1: or some sort of alternate line, push it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. So if you you have it at let's
Speaker 1: say the Niners are plus two and a half and
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be a field goal game, take
Speaker 1: the extra six points and combine it with something. So
Speaker 1: the six and a half points might be a minus
Speaker 1: to something at a prop that you think has a
Speaker 1: good likelihood of hitting. Get it back to that minus
Speaker 1: one ten amount. Buy yourself a little bit of flexibility.
Speaker 1: If I wasn't a Niners fan, that's probably what I
Speaker 1: would do for that game. Obviously, I'm confident in my
Speaker 1: defense and my team. But we saw and we were
Speaker 1: dead wrong. Where I was dead wrong about the Giants
Speaker 1: last week. We saw how powerful that that Eagles offenses.
Speaker 1: The pressure they put on Daniel Jones. I mean, he
Speaker 1: had no time to do anything. He wasn't able to
Speaker 1: run rampant like he was against Minnesota a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. So they're gonna come out hot. I respected
Speaker 1: you for picking the Giants plus seven and a half
Speaker 1: last week. I also think that's part of the problem
Speaker 1: of one the Giants lost because we became a very
Speaker 1: popular pick. No offense. You went too and too. You
Speaker 1: were kind of robbed of three and one. Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: took three and one away from you, opting for the
Speaker 1: field goal instead of the touchdown a little backdoor cover,
Speaker 1: so you were on the wrong end of that should
Speaker 1: have been three and one. You were two and two.
Speaker 1: So you're still you're kind of keeping the momentum. So
Speaker 1: in our second to last week remaining of NFL football,
Speaker 1: which is which is awful, the awful thing to say.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say that ever again, but
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I had to. I've been sticking with what
Speaker 1: we've been doing. Where are you at this week? What
Speaker 1: our ten unit plays here? Yeah, so I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: the same style is last week. Two and a half
Speaker 1: of the ten units for each of these four bets
Speaker 1: start with the easy ones Bengals minus one and a half.
Speaker 1: I think injury, the way the Bengals played against the Bills,
Speaker 1: I mean they look phenomenal in a terrible weather game.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow just getting hot again. I mean the right
Speaker 1: time of the season there. I think they're on the
Speaker 1: second biggest winning streak. They're probably eight in a row
Speaker 1: or something like that as the season ended and going
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Ride the hot hand, the weapons between
Speaker 1: Chase Higgins, boy mixing, I mean, they had everything. I
Speaker 1: would take it now at one and a half. I
Speaker 1: think if the news comes out and starts to progress
Speaker 1: worse and worse that my homes is limited on Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you're going to see that line change
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. So the minus one and a
Speaker 1: half is where I'm at there the other side of
Speaker 1: the spectrum. So those are these are the two straight
Speaker 1: or single bets. Um. I think to the point I
Speaker 1: made earlier with the plus money the plus two and
Speaker 1: a half, I'm taking my Niners money lines, so I
Speaker 1: think it's plus one right now something around there. So
Speaker 1: on the Bengal side, next forty seven bucks. On the
Speaker 1: taking the money money line with the Niners being the
Speaker 1: the dog nets you around fifty seven dollars. So you
Speaker 1: see the value right there in what you're getting. You're
Speaker 1: losing a couple of points, But what are the chances
Speaker 1: that game comes down to one point or one and
Speaker 1: a half or two points, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think there's more opportunity for that game to get
Speaker 1: blown out in either way based off how good those
Speaker 1: teams are. I don't know, that's just kind of kind
Speaker 1: of my take, but I feel really comfortable about the Niners.
Speaker 1: I think it is a high scoring game. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's what you saw last week. Where is Ene
Speaker 1: with a lot of issues and a lot of mis throws.
Speaker 1: I look at an Eagles run defense that just hasn't
Speaker 1: done well this year. You combine now Elijah Mitchell coming back,
Speaker 1: it looks like McCaffrey will be healthy. Get a bit
Speaker 1: of a calff bruders. Both are day to day though
Speaker 1: both are day to day. But I think, um, I
Speaker 1: think the scheme means more than anything there. I think
Speaker 1: they'll have their holes, and then on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, I think it's just containing Jalen Hurts. Again,
Speaker 1: if you can contain that guy, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they will, and you'll see that in one of my
Speaker 1: one game parlays here. But I think that's the name
Speaker 1: of the game. Because nine A shirt up the the
Speaker 1: back end really well between the corners and safeties there.
Speaker 1: I mean they came after dark, they played the position well.
Speaker 1: The two interceptions were pretty telling. Fred Warner has just
Speaker 1: proven I think he is the best middle linebacker in football.
Speaker 1: Just the way he's able to cover Ceedee Lamb or
Speaker 1: the way he's a being boxed. It's it's insane. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Niner's money line Bengals minus one and half
Speaker 1: of the single bets there um. I know, Olivia, we
Speaker 1: were talking a little bit on this text, but interested
Speaker 1: in your guys thoughts on both of those games from
Speaker 1: a half biased and half non biased perspective. I suppose
Speaker 1: Jerry's laughing because already with Greg Ross with Thal, I
Speaker 1: said I was taking the Bengals, so the Cats out
Speaker 1: of the bag literally. I still think there's a little
Speaker 1: reverse psychology there, I feel like, but we'll see, alright,
Speaker 1: no games. I'm a little more clear on the Bengals
Speaker 1: than I am with the Niners Eagles games. I leaned Eagles.
Speaker 1: This might be just because of what I had to
Speaker 1: go through with that you know, beat down that the
Speaker 1: Eagles gave us. But you know, because I'm looking at
Speaker 1: those two bets that you want. Though it feels like
Speaker 1: the Bengals Niners from last week and now you're kind
Speaker 1: of on them again. I do like to, you know,
Speaker 1: to get with it if you're running hot. But I
Speaker 1: I lean Eagles just because I just I saw too
Speaker 1: much and I think those are the two best lines
Speaker 1: offensive defensive in football. No disrespect your boy Bosa. I
Speaker 1: love Bosa. Just think all around. But we're here for
Speaker 1: some single game, one game parlay as I should say,
Speaker 1: because that's where we really get some some good odds.
Speaker 1: You laid out a good case for your single bets.
Speaker 1: Those are two and a half units each five total.
Speaker 1: You have five units left for both games, so I'm
Speaker 1: hoping you got this one game parlay for each and
Speaker 1: we're getting a little crazy here with some good odds.
Speaker 1: So let's do it. First one, we're going a FC
Speaker 1: Championship plus twelve fifty on this one four legs, so
Speaker 1: you got Bengals minus one and a half. So again
Speaker 1: sticking with that momentum of where they're at verse healthwise. First,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs anytime touchdowns. I think Tee Higgins has proven
Speaker 1: to be constantly a guy who's find the end zone. Um,
Speaker 1: expect a little bit of more pressure on Jamaar Chase
Speaker 1: especially looked really good last week. Kelsey, just Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: I think when they get to the red zone, he
Speaker 1: is the guy that's just going to find the targets.
Speaker 1: So both of those guys to be anytime touchdowns and
Speaker 1: then Mahomes under three twenty nine and a half, I
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a lot more of a dump
Speaker 1: off mentality. I think they're gonna have to be a
Speaker 1: little bit tricky in terms of what they do. You
Speaker 1: can expect an extra guy coming in the box, especially
Speaker 1: with that injury. They're gonna put pressure on him and
Speaker 1: force him to make some of those quicker throws, maybe
Speaker 1: find guys on the out routes, not looking for the
Speaker 1: deep ball that he's used to. I think he's just
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of trouble with timing and obviously
Speaker 1: the injury. So um, I think he still gets his
Speaker 1: yards to fifty plus whatever it ends up being, but
Speaker 1: I think they limit him a bit and they're focused
Speaker 1: on just a little bit more trickery, making sure the
Speaker 1: backs are a little bit more active in the game. Um,
Speaker 1: so that's plus twelve fifty, that's twenty five. So the
Speaker 1: two point five units to win three forty or three
Speaker 1: thirty nine. Big pay day. Again, not getting too crazy,
Speaker 1: not asking for too much, but really nice odds there
Speaker 1: for that for that Bengals game. I like all that too.
Speaker 1: The only thing I will not worry about it because
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at from what I saw last week.
Speaker 1: If the Bengals don't put four guys on Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: in the red zone, that would be the craziest thing.
Speaker 1: But if they do, they have so many other weapons
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, no disrespect. I would rather to take
Speaker 1: my chances with Valdez Scantling or Cadarius Tony. Then then
Speaker 1: a wide open Kelsey was opened by yards like three
Speaker 1: three releases. Before this last week, Kelsey had a six
Speaker 1: game drought where he didn't score a touchdown. So I
Speaker 1: think that that great. Yeah, double him up. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: They still were winning games and Kelsey doesn't need to score.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking too about again, I'm assuming the homes is
Speaker 1: pretty banged up and they're going to find some trick
Speaker 1: things to do. Like we've seen Kelsey in the Wildcat,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he rush is a touchdown
Speaker 1: in here a little I thought we were have seen
Speaker 1: the Pacheco, Yeah McKinnon or yeah. I just never know
Speaker 1: who's gonna get the damn ball. They're so low that
Speaker 1: you gotta go with the shore of fire things. No,
Speaker 1: I do like it. And look, I've said many times
Speaker 1: when Kelsey's caught touchdowns, how is he? How are they
Speaker 1: letting him do that? He you know what's coming, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just so good you can't stop it. Uh,
Speaker 1: all right, let's shift over to the NFC where your
Speaker 1: heart lies. Let's hear what you got yep. So I'm sticking.
Speaker 1: I'm staying away for this one. With any spread er
Speaker 1: money line. I'm taking a little bit more conservative route
Speaker 1: because I think there's a winnable bet here even without
Speaker 1: the game going which way over fourty six and a half,
Speaker 1: I think explosive offense on the eagle side, Niner is
Speaker 1: gonna have to keep up with them. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to just win a dog fight game. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't to me. It doesn't seem like it can happen.
Speaker 1: They're hating gonna put up three points, so over forty
Speaker 1: six and a half there, and then the theme is
Speaker 1: really around rushing here. So McCaffrey anytime touchdown, it looks
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be good to go. It's just a bruiser,
Speaker 1: should be fine. Hurts anytime touchdown and over forty four
Speaker 1: and a half yards, so they're gonna need to contain him.
Speaker 1: But what we saw with Dak last week, who's not
Speaker 1: the most mobile quarterback. Um, if if that's any indication
Speaker 1: of what's gonna happen this week with Jane Hurts. He
Speaker 1: will get fifty plus yards UM, and that's something they're
Speaker 1: just gonna have to live with. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: protect the longer threat. But he's going to get his
Speaker 1: chunks of yards. That's his game. That's why he's one
Speaker 1: or two for m v P this year, probably finished
Speaker 1: number two. But um, but he will hurt us. No
Speaker 1: pun intended, it's it's gonna happen, um. And then the
Speaker 1: last one is just one I've seen, and I've taken
Speaker 1: a couple of games throughout the course this latter half
Speaker 1: of the year. Jowan Jennings, who's pretty much known as
Speaker 1: kind of their passing widers or their pass block or
Speaker 1: run block wide receiver. He always gets these small, little
Speaker 1: chunk yardage big place on third down. I expect a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Brock Purty, and I expect a
Speaker 1: lot of those dump offs to happen, those big clutch
Speaker 1: third downs fourteen and a half yards um. He is
Speaker 1: kind of a George Kittleish in terms of a security
Speaker 1: blanket for Purty. He's always just running those quick five
Speaker 1: ten outs and is sure handed, so I think he
Speaker 1: gets a couple of those big chunk yardage in big plays.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do with Deebo, and
Speaker 1: I you, Shanahan always has something cooking up his sleeve
Speaker 1: for a big game like this, so I didn't want
Speaker 1: to mess with taking debot receiving yards when next thing
Speaker 1: you know, he's out of the backfield or or something crazy. So, um,
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half yards, that's one play, that's two plays.
Speaker 1: This guy has been super clutch for us as an
Speaker 1: on your fan for um those big third down especially
Speaker 1: to stretch fifteen yard big plays. Um, So I love that.
Speaker 1: And it's plus seven seventy five again the twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars that's to win two nineteen. So when one of
Speaker 1: these two we're in for a nice pay day and
Speaker 1: doubling up essentially what we have for the week. That's
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, it's sad that we only have this
Speaker 1: and one more. And I don't know, maybe we could
Speaker 1: uh start segue and it's an NBA, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss the I'm gonna miss the Niners jersey.
Speaker 1: I mean, you literally dressed like Turtle from Season two
Speaker 1: Vontarage buddy, and I I say that with all due respect.
Speaker 1: I love it making smile. I wish I was able
Speaker 1: to put the Giants jersey on and cheer from my
Speaker 1: team this Sunday. We'll listen, Pete, good luck. It's been
Speaker 1: a wild ride. I'm glad we got at least one
Speaker 1: more of these coming up. Good Luck to your niners,
Speaker 1: and good luck to all your bets, and good luck
Speaker 1: to everyone out there betting and uh, there's nothing left
Speaker 1: to do but play football, right. Thanks for joining us
Speaker 1: for another great week guys, and good luck with all
Speaker 1: your bets this weekend. M H.