WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Niagara Falls Dewatered

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. There's Charles, there's Jerome.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Joshua. This is short Stuff the Legend. How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing. I'm doing good man. I'm pretty excited about

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Have you ever been to Niagara Falls? I have?

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<v Speaker 1>What's it like? Uh? Watery, damp, It's very pretty. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually really need it's it's definitely worth seeing. Which falls

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<v Speaker 1>did you see? We went on the American side, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, when we got to the Canadian side,

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<v Speaker 1>we stopped and turned around and looked again. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>It's really definitely a site to see, for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess we should point that out for

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<v Speaker 1>people like me who have never been to Niagara Falls,

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<v Speaker 1>that there are a few falls. If you're American and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to leave the country, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>the American side, right if you want to see something that,

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<v Speaker 1>to my eye on images online looks better. The Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>Horseshoe Falls look pretty nice. H They're better, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say better because I'm an American, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are much larger, there's much a much larger volume

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<v Speaker 1>of water. It's much more graceful, and they're separated by

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<v Speaker 1>a Goat Island, and then there's cute little bridal Veilfall

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<v Speaker 1>separated from the American Fall by Luna Island. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's technically three falls with Niagara Falls, and um, what's

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<v Speaker 1>surprising to me, Chuck, is is um in researching this,

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<v Speaker 1>like that set up where you've got the American Falls,

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<v Speaker 1>bridle Veil Falls, and then the Horseshoe Falls in the

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian side. That's only like five eight hundred years old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems old, but uh, I believe that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why that sounds reasonable to me. Okay, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't keep my socks on every time I

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<v Speaker 1>hear that. Yeah, because you think of something like a

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<v Speaker 1>geological feature like a waterfall, it's got to be ancient, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea that it's only been that way for

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred eight hundred years kind surprising, until, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>then you look into a little further and you see, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this this waterfall is just eroding the earth beneath it

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<v Speaker 1>so quick that Yeah, it's it's of course it's not

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<v Speaker 1>always been this way. It just totally makes sense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that erosion, you know, the the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>falls is pretty uh, intimidating. It's very rocky and uh jagged,

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<v Speaker 1>big boulders. That's why going over a barrel. We did

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast, I guess if you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>that may many years ago in our early days, about

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<v Speaker 1>going over the falls in a barrel. Then it's incredibly dangerous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is very dangerous. And those rocks, though, haven't always

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<v Speaker 1>been there. There were two rock falls in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirties and the nineteen fifties, specifically under the American Falls,

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<v Speaker 1>and that left a lot of bowlers underneath. And some

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<v Speaker 1>people said, well that is just unsightly, and frankly, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not very patriotic to let the Canadians best us

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<v Speaker 1>with their much more beautiful waterfall. Now, so we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what to do about us, because we

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<v Speaker 1>can't just let the American Falls go away, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And who do you call when you need something like

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<v Speaker 1>this done? You know that you call the Army Corps

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<v Speaker 1>of Engineers. And they said, well, really, the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to find out what's going on is to dry up

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<v Speaker 1>this waterfall. And everyone at the table spit out their

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<v Speaker 1>coffee and they said, you're crazy. It's it's nineteen nine.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? And they said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really not that hard. Yeah, it really isn't. So

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<v Speaker 1>they hired a construction company and they built a Coffer dam,

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<v Speaker 1>which I believe we talked about in the Hoover Dam episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like a mound of earth that is holding

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<v Speaker 1>water back, um, that's not normally there. And they built

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<v Speaker 1>that at the point like the fork where the American

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<v Speaker 1>Falls began, and they diverted the Niagara River mostly over

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<v Speaker 1>to the Horseshoe Falls, a little bit to the Bridle Falls.

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<v Speaker 1>But then that was it. Like the water stopped flowing

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<v Speaker 1>over the Niagara the American Fall and it virtually ride

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<v Speaker 1>everything up. It was kind of easy if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it. I mean, it was a massive,

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<v Speaker 1>huge project, but it wasn't technically that hard. Yeah. It

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<v Speaker 1>was close to twenty eight thousand tons of phil So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of a lot of dirt and rock

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<v Speaker 1>and fills. It's a lot of fills. Um. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the fact that the Horseshoe Fall accounts

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<v Speaker 1>for of the dump anyway, like they couldn't damn a

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<v Speaker 1>Porshoe fall. There's no way, right, I I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>so no, I don't think the American Fall could take it.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I wonder too, is if when they

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<v Speaker 1>did this, if he could tell a difference at Horseshoe Fall. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I read that you could really most decidedly cooler. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm teen percent more inspired. I love it. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>rainbows around it were ten percent brighter. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>you could really tell. Well, should we take a little break? Well, sure, man,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's take a break and find out exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they did once they had these dry falls right

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<v Speaker 1>after this, so again, chuck there. They dried up Niagara

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<v Speaker 1>Fall because they wanted to figure out how to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it from roading and possibly how to clean it up,

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<v Speaker 1>like clean up all those boulders that talus at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom from those rock falls, because they were worried about

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<v Speaker 1>it looking ug basically, that's right. But here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>uh that, And you should look up pictures of this

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not driving your car, because it's pretty remarkable,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is to see this thing, uh dried up

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I mean, it just looks like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really flat mountain basically like a cliff, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But they couldn't keep it all dry that

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<v Speaker 1>face they had to keep wet because it had never

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<v Speaker 1>been dried out and exposed to the sun and the wind,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were rightfully worried about what might happen, so

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<v Speaker 1>they had to keep spray in that face kind of

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<v Speaker 1>continually from what like June to November. Yeah, they installed

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<v Speaker 1>the sprinkler system to do it, and they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of people right to standing there like

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<v Speaker 1>this is the worst summer job of all time, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they had to clean out the riverbed, so

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<v Speaker 1>they sam blasted out um a bunch of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>they get the moss off, and they sprayed all these

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<v Speaker 1>rocks clean and got all the loose gravel out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>And they really wanted to see what was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, geologically, so they injected blue dye uh into

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<v Speaker 1>the They drilled down into the riverbed injected blue dye,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, let's let's see what happens. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and have have a t and see where

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<v Speaker 1>this blue comes out. And then some of the more

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<v Speaker 1>excited workmen among them and be like, oh, there it

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<v Speaker 1>is there, it is something. When the blue die started

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<v Speaker 1>to emerge and they clap him point and laugh. That's right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They also installed something called extensive meters, which are pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>They're little sounds so made up there it does. It

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<v Speaker 1>also sounds like something a mad villain would would use,

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<v Speaker 1>but it measures the movement of the rock in the

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<v Speaker 1>foundation or the bed or the riverbed of the American

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<v Speaker 1>Falls to to basically look out for any movement greater

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<v Speaker 1>than one one h of an inch. This is pretty specific,

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<v Speaker 1>very specific. And they also installed little metal posts called

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<v Speaker 1>monuments which they can use in the future and have

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<v Speaker 1>used in the future, um to survey the area and

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<v Speaker 1>see if they've moved at all, if the riverbed has

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<v Speaker 1>moved at all, in the hopes that they will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to catch a rock fall from happening or erosion

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<v Speaker 1>from happening before it happens. That's right. And they did

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<v Speaker 1>find a place where they thought it was pretty susceptible

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<v Speaker 1>in the future to occur, and that was a prospect point. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This had already been a place where they had a

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<v Speaker 1>rock fall in the nine, which is the one that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kick started this whole plan to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>So prospect point is a problem quite frankly, yes, although

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<v Speaker 1>this was uh the last time it happened. It has

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<v Speaker 1>happened since. No, it hasn't. And I think some people

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<v Speaker 1>might be a little surprised because this is nineteen sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>where they're like, uh, this is probably where it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen next again, and it just still hasn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a summer of love, it was. That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I haven't written down here the summer of Love underneathing.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get that email? Yeah? Yeah, apparently we've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying summer of Love is at anything but nineteen sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>then that is officially the summer of Love. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that, so I always thought it was sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight For some reason, I always thought it was sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Well, uh in show correction short stuff style. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So back to the dry bed. You would think who

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<v Speaker 1>would want to come see a dried up Niagara Falls,

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<v Speaker 1>And it turns out a lot of people would you not? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I haven't been this. I would want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that would want that to be

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<v Speaker 1>my first trip right right? Or you would definitely want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back a second time when it's in full

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<v Speaker 1>swing first, or maybe actually that would be the time

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<v Speaker 1>to go because you could see that and Horseshoe Falls

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<v Speaker 1>and get the best of both worlds. Yeah. So so

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<v Speaker 1>some people were thinking like that and thought like this

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. There was one weekend in mid July where

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<v Speaker 1>nine people streamed through there um to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is this is kind of a once in

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime thing to see Niagara Falls dried up or

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<v Speaker 1>the American Falls at least. But overall that tourist season

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty pretty lame because a lot of people were like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's under construction. I'm not gonna I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pay for that road trip to go see a

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<v Speaker 1>Lamo fall. Yeah. And the original plan was there, like

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<v Speaker 1>let's try this thing out and invite people out to

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<v Speaker 1>walk around and do stuff. They kind of were like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little too wet still, and it's probably still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dangerous. So it was in August finally that

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<v Speaker 1>they deemed it dry enough for people to go out safely.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they never allowed people up on the cliff,

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<v Speaker 1>did they. Well, they built a fence on the brink,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think I don't know how close to the

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<v Speaker 1>brink they were loued to be, but I get the

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<v Speaker 1>impression that all throughout the summer, whether they were allowed

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<v Speaker 1>out there or not, people would go run out on

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<v Speaker 1>the riverbed and just like hang out, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>would be chased off by the army corps, like we

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<v Speaker 1>might not have guns, but we have sextants. Another thing

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<v Speaker 1>they did, and I just consider this very bad luck,

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<v Speaker 1>people would go out and collect wish coins. I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't that bad luck. I don't know, those are people's wishes.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen the good eats. Yeah, yeah, but the wishes

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<v Speaker 1>have come and gone. I mean, come on, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not if they hadn't been granted by now, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be granted. You know, let's give those coins

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<v Speaker 1>another shot. I guess. So it just seems I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem right. That's like that one part in

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<v Speaker 1>the Simpsons, the beer baron episode where they're driving through

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<v Speaker 1>the cemetery and bar goes, Dad, it's bad luck to

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<v Speaker 1>run over gravestones, and Homer goes, really, I heard good,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good luck. Um. One thing they did find, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of amazing they didn't find more dead bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did find too. One of them was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty recent one that they were actually looking for this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>They saw this guy dive into the river about a

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<v Speaker 1>week before, so they knew he would be in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But what they didn't know is that they would find

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<v Speaker 1>a very creepy find woman in a red striped dress

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<v Speaker 1>who had been down there for a long time. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>lodged head first into the talus. Didn't that's so ghoulish.

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<v Speaker 1>And she had a gold ring inscribed with forget me not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the irony of that is that she's never

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<v Speaker 1>been identified. Yeah, that seems remarkable to me. It doesn't. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked. I was like, I don't know how else

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<v Speaker 1>to word the search, but I didn't find anything about

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<v Speaker 1>that woman being identified ever. Um, so I don't. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also not sure that the guy who jumped the

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<v Speaker 1>week before they turned the water off was ever identified

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It was, but they they yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 1>mistaken for a worker by some people who's um initially

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<v Speaker 1>jump in and then they were like, oh wait, that

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. That's not good. Yeah, but but yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are surprised that they didn't find more

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<v Speaker 1>bodies because there's a lot of people who die by

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<v Speaker 1>suicide or just do something dumb and and go over

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, falls in a barrel or whatever, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a well known place to do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>only two bodies is kind of strange. Yeah, they found

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<v Speaker 1>one deer carcass, which that's kind of surprising. I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be littered with carcasses. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what they were half expecting to It was

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<v Speaker 1>probably a good you know, they were delighted by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they were. Yeah. So by November they're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've figured out everything we can figure out. We've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shorted up as best we can. Um, from what

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<v Speaker 1>I read the the waterfall naturally eroded at like five

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<v Speaker 1>ft a year, and now they've got it down to

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<v Speaker 1>one because of this stuff they did in nineteen nine

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<v Speaker 1>and later nine two. But um, they said, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to turn the wall are back on, and they

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<v Speaker 1>did on get this November nine, which I believe was

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years and two days ago. Oh wow, isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>neat anniversary? Happy water Day, Reintroduction of water to Fall Day. Uh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course they had to do it slowly throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the course of a day. They couldn't just make some

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<v Speaker 1>big magnificent scene and say watch this everybody. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to, but hang on to your duff's. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they did some math to figure out just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of how slow they needed to go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was still probably pretty cool to see it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Bet it was, for sure. Um. And so what was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of heartening to me is they said, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>learned a lot. Actually we can probably keep this thing

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<v Speaker 1>from a roading, but should we? And this joint task

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<v Speaker 1>force to kind of preserve Niagara Falls, but a joint

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<v Speaker 1>commission between Canada and the US said, well, what are

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<v Speaker 1>the residents around here? Thinks? So they sent out little

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<v Speaker 1>mailers and asked, like two thousand residents in Canada and

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<v Speaker 1>on the U. S side, what do you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>we should do? And the majority of people said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a natural formation. Just leave it to nature. Leave

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<v Speaker 1>it be. So they did. I thought that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of neat. I like it. They ask locally too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They they asked local locally and acted locally. There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. They were going to turn it off all

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<v Speaker 1>more time in two thousand nineteen to fix some bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe time has basically run out on that project,

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<v Speaker 1>so it might happen in let's cross our fingers, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we can do a podcast live from the brink. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a really great idea, Chuck, Well, I guess that's the

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<v Speaker 1>end of short stuff Chuck, which means short stuff out.

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