1 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into the latest episode of Fish Bites. My name 2 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: is Danny Martinez, and if you feel the anger talking 3 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: through the microphone, it's because I'm watching the same Sunday 4 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: afternoon game that you're watching in the ninth inning, and 5 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: we all probably feel in a similar fashion. Nonetheless, even 6 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: though that's very close to a piece that we're going 7 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: to talk about later on the human condition of a rebuild, 8 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: we're not going to get there quite yet. That won't 9 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: be the only thing we talk about. We're also going 10 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: to discuss a little bit about the draft. We're going 11 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: to discuss some of the cons around a rebuild. How 12 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: it's easier to watch when the team is winning, of course, 13 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: but where that might come from and if it changes 14 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: anything if there's a win or a loss, or a 15 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: hot streak, or if they lose four in a row. 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: We're also going to have a dialogue piece that was 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: sent in my way of where the Marlins are on 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: track of the rebuild. It goes very well with the 19 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: poll that I sent out as soon as I got 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: that email. I'm going to share the results with you. 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: Over six hundred people voted, and we're going to look 22 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: a little bit at where I personally see the rebuild 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: at the moment, what is working for it and what 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: is working against it. But again, as always, every single week, 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: we start off with the pitching performance and the hitting 26 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: performance of the week, and the pitching performance is a 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: triad really because I try very hard to get down 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: to just one or two of these young arms, and 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't because when you look at Trevor Richards, 30 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez, Sandi al Contra. Over their last week, they've 31 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: logged twenty six innings, they have only allowed three earned runs, 32 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: which adds up to one point zero four ERA. It's 33 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: hard to decipher and choose between one of those three 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: because quite frankly, we continue to see what we were 35 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: hoping to see from them, right again, the hashtag babyfaced aces. 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Whether this team has won thirteen of their last seventeen 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: or they've lost four in a row, what has been 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: consistent has been the young arms. 39 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Now, when we. 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: See a Caleb Smith take a seat or fall back 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: a little bit from where he was, when we see 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: a Jose Urania struggle in his last outing, you need 43 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: to take some solace, at least I do that. The 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: younger arms, the ones that have always been considered the 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: future of the Marlins rotation. They're going out there every 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: night and they're honing their craft. This was a special 47 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: week because we got to see it on the road 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: just as much as we got to see it at home. 49 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: And for those that are thinking, well, it's good that 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: they're finally showing something, I would counter that this has 51 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: been the case all year. If you look at you 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: know their era and their FIP. You know that I 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: will always take a little tango and do a little 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: dance between those two. Both of the measures have been 55 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: consistent and have been positive for all three of the 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: young pictures and the staff. So if you first look 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: at era A, Contrara is sitting at a three point 58 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: eight oh, Richard's at a three point three one, and 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: Lopez at a four point two six. And remember Lopez's 60 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Zra is going to be incredibly inflated because of that 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: ten run inning against the Mets. You take that, you know, 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: ten run inning out, which I know we can't do 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: in sports, But if you do the hypothetical, it leaves 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: him around a three point four to three point five ERA. 65 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of beauty in that now 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: they're FIP. Typically, unless we're talking about a cy young 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: type of a picture, isn't going to be exactly on 68 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: point with it. Lopez's FIP is a three point a two. 69 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: He actually improves. I've discussed that with you before, Lopez. 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: When we look at some of the advanced metrics, the 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: peripherals his stuff, his season looks a lot stronger than 72 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: if we just look at the traditional era stats. On 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: the other hand, both Richards and Sandy have a little 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: bit of help from their defense. 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: To Anderson off his glove. Ross gets to it and 76 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: look at that lout. 77 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: That fig Yo robots right place, right time, takes the deflection, 78 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: shovel past to Anderson. 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: Who somehow found Albe's and they get out number three. 80 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: That's just how you draw it up. A five to six, 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: five foot. 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: Out Richards fit at the moment four point six two. 83 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: Al Contreo is a four point four to three. But 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: what we're seeing here is that there are not these 85 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: drastic differences that tell you that these pitchers are not 86 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: performing at the rate that their era or at their FIPP says. 87 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: There is something beautiful, There is something very able to 88 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: instill optimism, a to instill growth able to see the 89 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: plan moving forward when every five days one of these 90 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: guys is coming out into the mound and is showing 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: you why the Marlins have such faith in this long 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: arsenal of arms that they have. And it's doubly important 93 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: when a Caleb Smith, who might have been dealing with 94 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: some injuries, and we'll talk about that in a second, 95 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: is starting to fall back a little bit. When a 96 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Jose Urana, who has been very, very good the last month. 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: We discussed that on last week's podcast, has a rough outing, 98 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: but then it gets answered by a Richards, by a Lopez, 99 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: by a Sandy. So when it comes to pitching performance, really, 100 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm always going to look at them as 101 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: a unit, because that's what they are. This Marlin starting 102 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: staff is top ten era in baseball for a reason, 103 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: and three of the big reasons are the young babyfaced 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: aces in Trevor Richards, Pablo Lopez, and Sandy al Concera 105 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: the hitting side. It's also nice to see some of 106 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: the young guys picking it up. Listen for a few 107 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: weeks on this podcast. You know, all you have to 108 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: do is go back two three episodes. You're gonna see 109 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: Neil Walker was the guy. Neil Walker was the guy 110 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: we had, the veteran piece who it was good to 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: see perform because he could be someone that's traded at 112 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: the deadline. He can be someone you get a prospect 113 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: for some solid international money to spend on international. 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: Free agents for. 115 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: But when you're in a rebuild, what you want to 116 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: see is me having a difficult decision between Anderson and 117 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: Alfao and Cooper, which is where we are this week. 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, as soon as I say those names, I'm 119 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: sure you could think in the last week a game 120 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: that they that they put their their stamp on, whether 121 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: it was you know, the sixteen to nothing game, or 122 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: whether it was the Grand Slam from Anderson, or whether 123 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: it's Cooper just being consistent throughout the entire week, there 124 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: has been a game that one of these guys have 125 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: stepped up and said, I'm going to dominate this game 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: for my offense, and I'm going to give you all 127 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: the offense that we need. When Sandy and Pablo and 128 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: Trevor out there pitching six innings, no no earned runs allowed, 129 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: you take your pick. Garrett Cooper over the last seven games, 130 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: three eighty five, getting on base at a fifty percent clip, 131 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. Six point fifteen two home runs, five RBIs. 132 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: And what I love about Cooper that we don't see 133 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: in an Alfaro right, we probably will never see this 134 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: in a George Alfero, even though he is young. Garrett 135 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: Cooper has been taking his walks this week, something that 136 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Marlin's We've We've started to see this. They're really not 137 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: great at doing this. We might have the most patient 138 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: hitters in the world, and that's kind of quite an 139 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: understatement to say, quite frankly, but Cooper has logged five 140 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: walks to eight k's over the last week, and I'm 141 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: going to take that any day I can from him. 142 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: He's going to hit the ball hard, he's been making contact, 143 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: but to see him also get on base via the 144 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: walk is a beautiful thing. Brian Anderson, over the same 145 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: amount of time hitting three ten, three ninety four six 146 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: twenty one, two home runs six RBIs, He's walked three times, 147 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: has gone on base a few other times by hit 148 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: by pitch, and then has struck out nine times. Now, 149 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: something about Brian Anderson that I sent out earlier and 150 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: I think is still important to discuss, is that sometimes 151 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: we look at patterns with our eyes, and then when 152 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: we go to the numbers and we dissect the numbers, 153 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: it's not exactly what we are actually seeing. 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: For instance, some of us, very very very. 155 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Often on Twitter say that Brian Anderson has by far 156 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: been one of the unluckiest Marlins this year. Right, his 157 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: numbers are not in par to what they were last year. 158 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: They've all dipped off quite a bit, at least the 159 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: ones that you can measure the average, the home run 160 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: pre at bad. 161 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: Whatever the case is. He's he's had a slight dip. 162 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: But something that we continue to see is that he 163 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: continues to hit the ball hard and he just continues 164 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: to be unlucky. 165 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: Little tamper Down's tough play. He'll charge, He'll try first, 166 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 2: Tosh Donaldson, so the Marlins challenge will be lost. 167 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: It's an out great play by Donaldson that saves the league. 168 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Albi's took an RBI away from him with a fantastic play. 169 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: He had a home run that was taken away from 170 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: him earlier in the week. There's a lot that Brian 171 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: Anderson has been doing that looks similar to last year, 172 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: but the results have not been the same. Well, that's 173 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: where Baseball Savant and stagcast is so important because when 174 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: you look at Brian Anderson's profile, he is the exact 175 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: same player that he was last year, a very good 176 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: to above average third baseman and right fielder, but third 177 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: basement and more importantly for this point, offensive profile. 178 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: His exit velocity is in. 179 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: The eighty fifth percent tile, his hard hit percentage is 180 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: in the ninety fifth percent tile, and the rest of 181 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: the peripherals that you might look at to see how 182 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: he's performing on the offensive side are all average to 183 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: above average. This is someone who has not taken a 184 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: step back. This is someone who has not fallen off ors, 185 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: not a sophomore or slum. No. Balls just aren't falling, 186 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: and it just seems that every other player, a Yelich 187 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: or an Albis, is taking something away from him, another 188 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: RBI away from him. What I would hope is that 189 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't get frustrated because when you're hitting the ball again, 190 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to say it, hard hit rate in the 191 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: ninety fifth percent tile. Only five percent of MLB players 192 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: are hitting the ball harder than Brian Anderson, and yet 193 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: your average sits around two forty. You're going to be 194 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: frustrated with that. So you know, he has. I was 195 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: excited to see the Grand Slam. I'm sure that finally 196 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: he felt that he just caught a break on a 197 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: pitch or on a nice strike, whatever the case was. 198 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: I was excited to see him finally get rewarded for 199 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: what he has been doing. But do not allow your 200 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: eyes to play a trick on you of only looking 201 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: at his average and thinking, well, clearly he's fallen back. 202 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: All of the numbers, all of the peripherals show that 203 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: that's not the case. He's absolutely swinging at more pitches 204 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: outside of the zone, but when he makes contact, which 205 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: he frequently does, he is still hitting it to the moon. 206 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that someone's catching it. 207 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: The third one that. 208 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: Could be the case for this week is George Alfaro 209 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: three thirty three through thirty three, five fifty six, one 210 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: home run, six RBIs. He's probably the weakest candidate here. 211 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: But I'll let you guys decide. Would it be a 212 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Garrett Cooper, would it be a Brian Anderson, or would 213 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: it be a George Alfaro. I won't have to decide, 214 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: because all I'm excited about is the fact that these 215 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: are the three candidates, right. You know, last week it 216 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: was Harold Ramirez, and he's taken a fallback. Absolutely, he 217 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: was in a rough stretch, oh for sixteen I believe 218 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: before his pinch hit double Saturday night. But it's nice 219 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: to see that the young guys are the ones taking 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: this forward. And it's going to be something that we're 221 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: going to discuss again in the piece of human condition 222 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: and the rebuilding. 223 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: What to look at why it's easier for us to see. 224 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Certain things when they're winning versus when they lose a 225 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: game against the Braves in extra innings. But nonetheless, the 226 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: young guys are leading the way. The young guy are performing, 227 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: and for that, honestly, all Marlins fans should be excited. 228 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: So this week was the MLB Draft. I spoke about 229 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: it in the last week's podcast in Earning the Stripes. 230 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: We spoke about it the day after the main portion 231 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: of the draft happened. Day one, Day two, we spoke 232 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: about it in the preview of the draft on Earning 233 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: their Stripes. You guys have had a lot of content 234 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: on draft coverage, so I will not go to in 235 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: depth on the players that were selected, or to in 236 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: depth on any specific tools or anything to that extent. 237 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: But I think that we need to discuss the draft 238 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: because for the first time in a very long time, 239 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: I can't even remember if this has ever happened. 240 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: For the Marlins. 241 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: They are considered a consensus top five draft amongst the experts. 242 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: Whether you look at. 243 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: Pipeline, who has them, you know, every site, Baseball America, Fangrass, Pipeline, 244 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: every analyst comes out and always has to give a 245 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: top five teams and how they performed in the draft 246 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. Pipeline has them at 247 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: number four Baseball America. This is a quote from Carlos Coyazo, 248 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: who's the draft specialist for Baseball America. This was in 249 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: an interview that he had with Andre Fernandez from The Athletic. 250 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: The quote says, it's tough to grade any draft in 251 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: a complete way, not knowing how the players will develop 252 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: and turn out. Right, that makes sense. He then continues, 253 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: but on pure talent, you could argue they did better 254 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: they as in the Marlins, than any other team. Absolutely absolutely, 255 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: and he's not alone. Jim Bowden quote, Marlins had the 256 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: best draft of all thirty teams. End quote John Hayman. 257 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: He discussed it with a different scout place The Marlins 258 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: as number three overall from all the teams. This was 259 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: a beautiful draft and it was one that they needed. 260 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: You have an article on fish stripes that was just 261 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: published this week, and I invite you to go on 262 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: and read it at length. But the main points that 263 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: I discussed was Number one, they needed to win this draft. 264 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: I say that it's the I said, it's the worst 265 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: kept secret in baseball. Everyone within the Marlins offices in 266 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Little Havanah knew they have to win the draft. You know, 267 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: jose Fido on Twitter knew. The guy with the keyboard 268 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: warrior knew. Everybody knew that the Marlins had to win 269 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: this draft. But how did they go about and do it? 270 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: I laid out three things. Number One, for the first 271 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: time in a very long time. And I'm sure that 272 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: every war room, every draft room, has a clear plan, 273 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: I understand, but for the first time in a very 274 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: long time, I could, we could see it. The Marlins 275 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: had a clear, definitive plan. I often made the illustration 276 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: in the article that they were playing chess, not checkers. 277 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: They had a clear plan going in. And then number two, 278 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: they had an excellent execution. They had the plan, they 279 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: set up the pieces the way they wanted to, and 280 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: they executed it without mercy. And number three, which I say, 281 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: might even be unintended, but quite frankly, it's possible that 282 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: they even put this into consideration. They had perfect timing. 283 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: So what do I mean by those three statements. Well, 284 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: like I said, log onto fist Stripes dot com. You're 285 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: going to get a more comprehensive discussion and a more 286 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: comprehensive layout of what I mean. But number one, the 287 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: clear plan was obvious. It's something that myself, ethan Ian 288 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: and everyone that has talked to baseball who understands even 289 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of it with the Marlins has stated 290 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: over and over again. They needed bats, bats and more bats. 291 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: But not only did any bats they wanted to avoid 292 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: volatile ones. They needed bats which had advanced approach and 293 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: which were close to either honing in or mastering that 294 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: hit tool. And when you go into a draft and 295 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: you need bats, bats, bats, and seven of your first 296 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: eleven picks are bats, and six of those seven are 297 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,239 Speaker 1: college advanced bats, you know that you executed it perfectly. 298 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: In JJ Blede, which was their first overall, their first pick, 299 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: number four overall, they got one of the most advanced 300 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: pure swinging hitters in college who also happens to have 301 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: immense power, leading the division, leading college division in home runs. 302 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: They then go on and they get Cameron Meisner, who 303 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: is a five tool athlete who only dropped because he 304 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: was hurt early in the year. He came back and 305 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: he didn't hit the way that people expected him to hit, 306 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: but he still hit and he still has all five 307 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: of those tools. Then they get the first pick that 308 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: might be out of their plan, which was Nasim Nunez. 309 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: And Nasim Nunez might be out of their plan because 310 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: really he's not advanced bat and he's also not in college. 311 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: He's a prep. He's a high schooler. 312 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: A gold glove defender, is how Pipeline describes him. But 313 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: see then you dive into Nassim Nunya's and you read 314 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: what the scouts have to say about him, and they 315 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: compare him to a Francisco Lindor, they compare him to 316 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: an Ausi Albi's and then you realize that the Marlins 317 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: must have loved him this much to go out of 318 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: their plan, and that it's still a bat that they 319 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: feel that they can develop. God, the plan was so clear, 320 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: but I have never seen a Marlins brass and a 321 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: Marlins organization execute it as cleanly as they did this year, 322 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: and listen, there might be some luck that falls into that. 323 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: I can imagine, And I was told this when Cameron 324 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: miss Meisner was taken off the board, that four or 325 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: five other teams had him as the next guy on 326 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: their board. 327 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: There's luck there because. 328 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: In other years the Marlins were one of those four 329 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: or five other teams that had the guy that was 330 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: taken right ahead of them in other years, and Nasim 331 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: Nunya's would have been taken two steps in front, or 332 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: the guy that they had at top, the top pitching 333 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: guy that they took Evan Fitterer might have not been 334 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: convinced to sign on earning their stripes. I said that 335 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: I would be I would not be shocked if Fitterer 336 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: decided to go to UCLA and not sign with the Marlins. 337 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: That that would be by far the hardest signing, one 338 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: of the hardest signings in the entire draft. The reason 339 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: that so many people did not pick Evans fitter so 340 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: many organizations was because of signability concerns. This is someone 341 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: that was ranked as high as number sixty overall and 342 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: the Marlins got him in the mid one hundreds. However, 343 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: per Craig Mish, who if you don't follow him on 344 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: Twitter you really need, you're doing yourself a disservice. Whether 345 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: it's fantasy or whether it's Marlin's Baseball or just baseball 346 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: in general. Make sure you go and you follow Craig 347 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: Mission and you subscribe to his Swings and Missis podcast 348 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: on Five Reason Sports. He believes that the Marlins are 349 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: signing all of their Day two picks, and that would 350 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: include Evan Fiteverer being able to get your top targeted 351 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: pitching arm to sign, being able to get a pitcher 352 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: who could easily go to UCLA and in two years 353 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: come out and be a top ten selection most likely 354 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: because of the tools that he has to sign, and 355 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: adding that to a Nasim Nunez and adding that to 356 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: a five plus advanced college bats that you were able 357 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: to select in this draft is the reason why abode In, 358 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: is the reason why A Hayman is the reason why 359 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: a Baseball America or a Fangrafts or a pipeline looks 360 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: at this draft and says, for the first time in 361 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: a decade, the Marlins have absolutely nailed it. And like 362 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: I said at the beginning of my article, they needed 363 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: to when it was the only option. Anything below exceptional 364 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: was off the table. Those are my words, but. 365 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: I can guarantee you that all of the other end of. 366 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Out there that talk about the draft would agree, because 367 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: the reality is that the Marlins in this rebuild are 368 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: in a position where they will likely not ever get 369 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: a spot better than they were in this year. Even 370 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: with as bad as the offense can be this year, 371 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: even with the inconsistency of the young arms and a 372 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: bullpen that half of them won't be here by the 373 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: time that we open up next year, failing and flopping 374 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: at times. Even with all of that, I don't think 375 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: the Marlins will ever have a top three pick, top 376 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: four pick again. So this was the year to do it, 377 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: and they could not fail. And yes, we don't know 378 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: what these players will become. I understand that, like Coyazzo 379 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: said in his quote, it's tough to create any draft 380 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: in a complete fashion, not knowing how the players will 381 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: develop and turn out. But on pure talent, you could 382 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: argue they did better than any other team. If you're 383 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: a Marlins fan and you're looking for some sort of 384 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: faith if turn a franchise on its head, if taking 385 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: a farm system from thirtieth to thirteenth and likely top 386 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: ten after this draft, if all of the pitching up 387 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: and down is not enough for you, I'm okay with that. 388 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: But it's getting harder for you to now look at 389 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: this draft and say, Wow, yeah, they don't know what 390 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: they're doing. This organization is going in the right direction. 391 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: This organization is in a rebuild, in the low points 392 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: of a rebuild. But this draft was an excellent, excellent 393 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: milestone and step forward towards winning the second thing I 394 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: want to talk about today, The human condition is a 395 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: very interesting thing. Those of you that follow me and 396 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: those of you that have heard me or heard my 397 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: first episode when I started doing the weekly podcast for 398 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: Fish Bites, know that my career is actually in clinical 399 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: psychology and neuropsychology. So when I talk about a human condition, 400 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: it's not because I just went out and bought a 401 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: psych one on one book. It's because I'm talking from 402 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: some place of knowledge or depth. And if there is 403 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: one field in psychology that's really exciting but also really 404 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: important for all of us, it's social psychology. Social psychology 405 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: actually has a bad rep in the academics. For whatever reason. 406 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: You know, social psychology isn't taken as serious as some 407 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: of the other fields. But let me tell you something. 408 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: We are social beings, so we can think social psychologists 409 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: for understanding the way that our behaviors and act and 410 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: what we do and why we do it. And man, 411 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: I'm not a social psychologist, but I have friends and 412 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: peers that are, and they would love to do an 413 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: experiment and research on the Marlins mentality of fans, the 414 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: Marlins fans mentality during a rebuild. And I don't blame 415 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: individuals for flip flopping back and forth during or rebuild 416 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: because see, at the end of the day, we tend 417 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: to see things much clearer when we're surrounded by positivity. 418 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: We perform better at work, when things are good at home. 419 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: We see this full picture when what we're focused on 420 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: is more clearly defined. And as fans, it seems that 421 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: we see the plan better, whether part of the future 422 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: or not. But when the players are winning, when the 423 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: team is doing well, suddenly the Marlins go and they 424 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: win thirteen of seventeen or thirteen of eighteen, and individuals 425 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: are starting to realize the plan. Individuals are starting to 426 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: understand that the Marlins farm system is where the future 427 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: is at. You know, radio hosts and analysts on TV 428 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: turn from talking poorly about the Marlins to talking about 429 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: how it's going to pan out. Okay, now, the draft helps, 430 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: but tell me when was the last week that you 431 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: ever heard so many analysts and so much national media 432 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: members be positive with the Marlins. I don't know that 433 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: if the Marlins would have been losing fifteen of their 434 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: last seventeen, if they would have all graded the draft 435 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: the same way. And I know that they would say, yes, 436 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: that they would have. They're being objective regardless of whether 437 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: the Marlins are doing well or not. I'm not so 438 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: certain and what we see on Twitter, and that's why 439 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: I you know, I was just on with the Amigo 440 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: and the Good Morning Amigo Show, which. 441 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: I believe is actually. 442 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: We were able to put it on our podcast so 443 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: you could hear the recording if you just go down 444 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: a few selections. I was on them and I said, 445 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: right away, listen, the team's not going to continue in 446 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: this thirteen games of seventeen games, thirteen wins in seventeen games, 447 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. They're going to stabilize back. 448 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: You're dealing with inconsistencies when you're talking about young players, 449 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: whatever the case is. And yet it's so interesting that 450 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: on Twitter everyone and all of a sudden was able 451 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: to see the plan a little bit better. But nothing 452 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: has changed. 453 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: Nothing. 454 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: They could have won thirteen of seventeen, they could have 455 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: lost thirteen of seventeen. It makes absolutely no difference from 456 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: what we have discussed earlier on in the podcast, because see, 457 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it is still about 458 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: the young pitchers and the young positional pieces that might 459 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: be here in the future. If the thirteen wins had 460 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: come on the back of Granderson, of Walker, of Sergio Romo, 461 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: of individuals that are not really a part of the 462 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: future here, I would be the first person to tell 463 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: you look a little bit deeper, the same way that 464 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I'll say this. If the Marlins go on and lose 465 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: five or six games in a row right now, but 466 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: we're still seeing Anderson play well, and al Faro play well, 467 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: and Garret Cooper play well, and the pitching go out 468 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: and dominate. I am okay with that, and I've been 469 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: okay with that since the first episode. Because the human 470 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: condition allows you to see things in a better light. 471 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: When things are happier, when you're focused on the win loss, 472 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the plan that comes behind the 473 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: win loss in twenty twenty, in twenty twenty one looks better. 474 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: But I must ask why now. If the answer is, well, yes, 475 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: because the wins of twelve of seventeen, they came from 476 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: the young pitching, and they came with Alfa ro and 477 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: Andersen playing well, and they came with the resurgence of 478 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: Harold Murrez and Garrett Cooper. Now, if that is the answer, absolutely, amen, 479 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: more power to you. Were on the same page. But 480 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: if it is just oh, because they're winning, I don't 481 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: think so, because their win loss record right now is irrelevant, 482 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: not to them, not to those in the dugout, not 483 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: to the people that have to cover the team, not 484 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: to the manager, not to the sure, not to anyone, 485 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: but deep down inside, the Marlins could not win a game. 486 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: And this is a little hyperbolic and a little extreme. 487 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: The rest of the year. 488 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: And when you know, March thirty first or April second 489 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty is here, and you have an opening 490 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: day roster of Monte Harrison and Nissan Diaz and the 491 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: rest of the young guys that have come up. It 492 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: will not make a difference what happened today or that 493 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: Sergio Romo blew his hold opportunity, his save opportunity. And 494 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: yet the human condition teaches us that in a rebuild, 495 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: things are a lot more palatable when the team is winning. 496 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: I get that, I understand that, But isn't that just 497 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: us looking at logic and spitting in its face. Isn't 498 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: that us just saying, well, I know that these wins 499 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: don't really matter this year. I know that the only 500 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: thing I care about is the young pitching and the 501 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: young hitting, all of these things, Danny, and yet I 502 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: still don't. 503 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: Care about that. 504 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm okay if you're that type of fan, and I'm 505 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: okay if you're to have that type of mentality. I'm 506 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: just here to tell you that the Marlins are not 507 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: going to continue on thirteen of seventeen, which I guess 508 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: would now be thirteen of twenty. The Marlins are not 509 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: going to continue in that track because this team is inconsistent, 510 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: Because this team. 511 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: Does have to grow. What I told you. 512 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: The first week, what I told you in the middle 513 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: of their ten and thirty one record, and what is 514 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: the same thing that I'll tell you right now, as 515 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: they've won thirteen of their last twenty. The Miami Marlins 516 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: are in year two of rebuild. The light is coming. 517 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: It is shines with Isan Diez hitting home run after 518 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: home run in the minor leagues. Although Monte is currently 519 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: hurt with a minor hamstring situation, it shines every time 520 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: that he steals four bases and show gold glove defense 521 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: and also smashes homers. It shines every day in the 522 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: affiliates where our pitchers come out and they are a 523 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: top of the rotation candidate. It shines at the major 524 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: league level via Brian Anderson's numbers and al Faro who 525 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: could be an All Star, and the young pitching. It 526 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: shines and it's coming, But none of that shines because 527 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: of a wind loss. 528 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: Don't breathe. 529 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: We can be excited that they've been doing well, but 530 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: make sure that the reason they're doing well is also 531 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: a part of the future, because that's what we should 532 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: be excited about. 533 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: Let's wrap up with the dialogue. 534 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: I got to send an email talking about the pace 535 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: of the rebuild, and the question really was, Danny, are 536 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: we ahead of schedule? And the individual listed a bunch 537 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: of reasons why they felt that we were ahead of schedule. 538 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: So I took to Twitter, and if. 539 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: You saw this recently, you know this will kind of 540 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: be the reason that I sent out the poll. But 541 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: the question was, in your opinion the Marlins are blank 542 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: of pace on their rebuild, and I said things to 543 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: consider big league pieces twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, draft, farm system, 544 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: talent and production business side of the rebuild, and the 545 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: options were that they are ahead of schedule, they are 546 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: on the expected pace, they are behind the expected pace, 547 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: or don't know. So individuals could just click on that 548 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: option so they can see what individuals responded. 549 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: Eighty I take that back, Yes, eighty. 550 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: Six percent of individuals selected ahead of expected pace or 551 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: on expected pace. So eighty six percent of individuals believe 552 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: that the Marlins rebuild is either where it should be 553 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: or better than it should be. Eight percent said behind 554 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: expected pace. And for that I would I guess they're 555 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: looking at maybe the offense at the major league level. 556 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: They certainly can't be looking at it at TRIPLEA, but 557 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: at the major league level. Or maybe you know, that's 558 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: the pessimist or that's the troll who's voting to you know, 559 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know say that the Marlins are x Y 560 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: and Z. I would invite anyone that believes that they 561 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: actually do have a reason for putting behind expectations on 562 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: the podcast. 563 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: I would love to have that conversation. 564 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be as a full time guest, but 565 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, a five to ten minute spot, because I 566 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: would be interested in hearing that type of rationality. Six 567 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: percent voted don't know. So then from the from the 568 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: ninety four percent of the sample that did vote, eighty 569 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: six percent of them say on rate or on expected 570 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: pace or ahead of expected pace, and I would I'm 571 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: true to say that if I had done a follow 572 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: up question, most of them would say that they are 573 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: either en rate or ahead of expectations for the same 574 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: reasons that I will point out. It starts off with pitching, 575 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: right when you look at the minor league system, and 576 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: I sent out that stat last uh, you know, last 577 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: earning their stripes, and I believe I also said it 578 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: on the Amigo show Sirius XM channel one forty five 579 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: that fourteen of the minor league pitchers have an ERA 580 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: under three point five. Oh, I don't know if that 581 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: number has gone up or has gone down since I 582 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: said it. But when you say that, and then you 583 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: go ahead and you look at the stat that I 584 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: give you earlier, which is that Sandy has a three 585 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: point eight oh this year, Richards has a three point 586 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: three one, and Lopez has a four point twenty six. 587 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: Who's FIP is three point eight two, You quickly realize 588 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: the strength of this organization. You quickly realize that the 589 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: pitching is the reason that you can vote ahead of 590 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: expected pace, because when you have this type of pitching, 591 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: just imagine, just imagine next year. Okay, just imagine next 592 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: year if you still have this type of pitching and 593 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: you added Zach Gallon to it, or possibly a Jordan 594 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: Yamamoto or any of the other myriad of arms that 595 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: might be ready by next year. Just for a second, 596 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: imagine if your lineup and this is not by order, 597 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: but if your lineup of Georgia Alfar O'Brien and er Senny, 598 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: San Diaz, Lewis Brinson, Monte Harrison, Harold Ormirez, Garrett Cooper, 599 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: and then Miguel Rojas or Jay you know, Riddle, whoever 600 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: the case is. Just imagine if that offensive corps gives 601 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: you even a little offense next year, Then you're talking 602 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: something somewhat serious for being only year three of rebuild. 603 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: Because the expectation, whether people will ever confirm this or 604 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: not internally and externally, is that twenty twenty one, twenty 605 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: twenty two year, this is when we should be kicking 606 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: it into hyperdrive. In twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, 607 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: we should be seeing a competitive team day in and 608 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: day out. We should be seeing a close to wild 609 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: card or playoff team. And some will tell you no, 610 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: we should be seeing a playoff team. But notice I'm 611 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: not talking twenty twenty one twenty twenty two. I'm talking 612 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: just next year, next year with a rotation of a 613 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: Gallon and al Contrera, Smith A Lopez, a Richard's and 614 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: improved bullpen because they'll need it. And this is without 615 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: even any free agent additions. This is just the hypothetical 616 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: that I gave you of all the prospects that should 617 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: be coming up, like Isan Diez and Monte Harrison, and 618 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: then the guys that we have up at the professional 619 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: major league level right now, then you're talking ahead of schedule. Now, 620 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: if I had to vote on that poll, I would 621 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: say that they are on schedule. I would say that 622 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: they are on schedule, but they are definitely closer to 623 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: a head of schedule than behind it expectations, because when 624 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: you have that pitching and the defense, defense is solid too, 625 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: especially with the prospects coming up, and you are able 626 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: to add offensive weapons to that Listen, twenty twenty could 627 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: be a surprisingly fun year for Marlins fans. Twenty twenty 628 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: could be a surprisingly competitive year in that dugout. Twenty 629 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: twenty could be a surprisingly exciting campaign. Now we're not 630 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: there yet far as I know, it is still twenty nineteen, 631 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: and it will continue to be twenty nineteen, but that 632 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty train is coming. And if it's my answer, 633 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: they're on pace or better. For those of you who 634 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: might disagree, I really want you to let me know why. 635 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: I would be interested in knowing how anyone could think 636 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: they're behind schedule when you look at the major league level, 637 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: when you look at this kind of a draft that 638 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: they just had, and when you also take a look 639 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: at what's happening in the minor league system with Isan Diez, 640 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: Monte Harrison and others showing that they belong. And that's 641 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: without even talking about Lewis Princeton and we'll have that 642 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: conversation soon on when we think that he needs to 643 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: be called up because he's performing well too. Now. I 644 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: know I said that was the last thing that we're 645 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: going to discuss, but I just have a few news 646 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: nuggets here. The big thing, the big news, the big 647 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: injury concern that we had this week was Caleb Smith, 648 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: and we spoke about that if you follow me on Twitter, 649 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: even while the start was happening. This most recent start 650 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: that he put up, you know, I discussed and fish 651 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: Stripes actually sent this out as well. His average velocity 652 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: was down. He looked uncomfortable. Joe Fisara reported that he is. 653 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: He was not placed on the il minor hip inflammation, 654 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: something that should be minor where you can miss one start, 655 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: maybe two starts if it doesn't get reaggravated while he's 656 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: building back up his strength. The question here then, was 657 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: Zach Gallon going to be the guy that they call 658 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: up or was Aliaier Hernandez going to be the guy 659 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: that they called up? My guess again would have been 660 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: Aliaiser Hernandez. I don't think that you waste a forty 661 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: man spot at the moment and bring up Gallon and 662 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: it seems like my guess is going to be correct, 663 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: because they actually pulled Hernandez from his scheduled start in 664 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: order to sink him up. My hypothesis is in order 665 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: to sink him up with what would have been Smith's 666 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: projected start, which is this upcoming Tuesday against the Cardinals. Now, 667 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: that would have been a great storyline. If somehow they 668 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: brings that gallon up, then you're facing him against his 669 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: former team. That would have been a very exciting storyline 670 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: to follow. But I think from a roster construction point 671 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: of view, it is likely going to be Aliaiser Hernandez 672 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: that gets called up makes that spot start, especially if 673 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: it's only one or two starts, and then Caleb Smith 674 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: will come on right back and hopefully continue his all 675 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: star trajectory. Now improved and now not dealing with fatigue. 676 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: This rest is perfect for him. Whether there really is 677 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: something wrong with his hip, or whether he was just 678 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: having some dead arm issues or just overall fatigue. It's 679 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: good to get him some rest, filled up strength, and 680 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: then we'll see him back in one or two turns 681 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: through the rotation. I'll leave you with our next guest 682 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: for the week, just in case you are interested on 683 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: following him. His name is Ed Snabria. He will be 684 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: joining us on the next podcast of fish Bites. You 685 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: can find him on Twitter at Jolly Gator so j 686 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: O L L I G A T O R. As always, 687 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: I really do hope that you appreciate this. It's absolutely 688 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: it's a labor of love. 689 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: If you can, please leave reviews. 690 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: For the Fish Bites to count on iTunes, on Google, 691 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: on Spotify, wherever podcasts are found. 692 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: We will be there. 693 00:38:41,719 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: I thank you, we love you, and go fish