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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cultivating Her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting

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Speaker 1: women like you. We're your hosts doctor Dominique Brussard, a

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Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a

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Speaker 2: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please

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Speaker 2: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from

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Speaker 1: All right. For today's bonus episode, our quote of the day.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes the best breakthroughs come from the moments we feel

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Speaker 1: like giving up. Stay the course, you know how I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it one more time for the folks

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Speaker 1: in the back. Sometimes the best breakthroughs come from the

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Speaker 1: moments we feel like giving up stay the course. All right, lady, Well,

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Speaker 1: today's quote of the day really fits with what we

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Speaker 1: te tell people what we're talking about today.

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Speaker 2: Yes, do you want to talk about what the quote

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Speaker 1: I say, let's jump right in.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, okay, y'all, let's do it all right?

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Speaker 2: So Welcome to another episode. We are so excited to

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Speaker 2: have you here. We just want to welcome our new listeners. Welcome.

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Speaker 2: We're happy you found us, no matter how you found us.

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Speaker 2: I do want to say apologies for my voice. I

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Speaker 2: don't usually record with the stuff he knows, but as

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Speaker 2: let this be the only episode that you listen to.

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Speaker 2: If you are a first time listener, go listen to

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Speaker 2: some of our other episodes. We have just of other

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Speaker 2: episodes for you, but today this is more like a

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Speaker 2: town hall. This is like a personal conversation, and so

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like the first date and we're telling

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Speaker 2: you all our business and inviting you in. So please

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Speaker 2: go listen to other episodes in addition to this one

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Speaker 2: because this might be an interesting first episode to listen to.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, get cozy and to our longtime supporters, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much from the bottom of our heart. We

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Speaker 2: us for the six and a half your journey that

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Speaker 2: Dom and I have been on with the podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's been an incredible journey for us. Creating this space

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Speaker 2: to uplift, inspire, and celebrate black women. Every single one

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Speaker 2: literally why we're here today because if you weren't here,

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't have any content to create. So today's episode

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Speaker 2: is a real episode. Okay, we want to get very

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Speaker 2: end so that you can learn more. And what we're

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Speaker 2: to talk a bit about our journey and then some

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about the journey. Don Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: the journey. Yes, yes, it's been quite a journey, tell

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Speaker 1: Dom, Well, at this point, at the time that we're

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Speaker 1: and we met in July of twenty eighteen, and a lady,

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Speaker 1: if you want the full story of how we met

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Speaker 1: and how we got to where we are, you need

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Speaker 1: to go back and listen to the very first episode,

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Speaker 1: July of twenty three, our five year anniversary. And so

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Speaker 1: here we are in October of twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 1: so this is year six of the podcast. And we

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Speaker 3: It is, It truly is, because podcasting is not easy

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Speaker 3: We have been featured in several media outlets like Black

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So one thing I'm gonna say, Dom is spot

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Speaker 2: important thing to note is like this is a labor

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