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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, you want experience during your football season,

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Speaker 1: We'll buckle up, sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience

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Speaker 1: in the world. This is I want your flex with

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Speaker 1: Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down

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Speaker 1: everything you need to set your lineups, from position rankings

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Speaker 1: to starts and sits. The guys help you make those

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Speaker 1: hard decisions. And now let's get your flex onde. Here's

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Speaker 1: Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 2: It is I want your flex. Almost getting to the

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Speaker 2: quarter post now that we've got eighteen weeks in the season.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly where it falls Mike Harmon, but

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Speaker 2: we're approaching week four. Week four used to be the

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Speaker 2: quarter point for the NFL season, so we're getting closer

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Speaker 2: to about a fourth of the way through the year.

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Speaker 3: That's it. It goes by so fast. We have to

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Speaker 3: celebrate those two seventy two no matter how badly they

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Speaker 3: may offend our eyes. In that moment, I tered that

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Speaker 3: fantasy guy that let you down by dropping a ball,

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Speaker 3: and the wide open spaces are in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback who on a fourth down, instead of extending

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Speaker 3: a drive, throws the ball into the fifth row all

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Speaker 3: of those things.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, and we love every second of him right

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Speaker 2: hit Mike Carmen up at Swollen Dome. You can find

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Speaker 2: me Dan Buyer at Dan Byer on Fox. And Ian

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Speaker 2: Roddy is the show's executive producer. You can find him

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Speaker 2: at Ian Roddy Underscore. As we look ahead to week four,

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Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you guys in the last pod

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Speaker 2: my favorite stat from week three I almost ate wings

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Speaker 2: on every meal when I was in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: No kidding, yes, wait wait wait wait what broke the strap?

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Speaker 3: What was the streak?

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Speaker 2: So it well, Thursday we landed for lunch, wings, Thursday

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Speaker 2: night hot dog at the game, so that kind of

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Speaker 2: for lunch, Friday night Wings for dinner. Then Saturday went

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Speaker 2: to a spot that was they had, but they had

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Speaker 2: that just tasted so good. But I tried to keep

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Speaker 2: a streak going by also ordering a pizza log And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, you spent some time in upstate

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Speaker 2: like a New York thing a Buffalo don't know if

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Speaker 2: you've never heard of Pizza Logs. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you guys have had.

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Speaker 3: It, but no, we're going to look it up as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did have that, but there was at

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Speaker 2: least a chicken in some sort of sauce chicken in

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Speaker 3: I will say I want in on this. And of

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Speaker 3: course I look it up and you have the original

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Speaker 3: Pizza Logs Finger Food Products LLC. But they have a

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Speaker 3: Buffalo chicken. Looks like that's that's a deep Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: It seemed like it was like an egg roll or

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Speaker 2: like a yeah, it was just filled with cheese and

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's all I can say. Is this. If we

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Speaker 3: the case. Oh man, well, guess what we're having next week?

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Speaker 3: I get Buffalo style chicken log seventy two in a

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Speaker 2: It really felt like it was a a buffalo sort

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Speaker 2: but they were delicious. So even though I didn't have

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Speaker 2: and some pizza roles. But I'll say this, the wing

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Speaker 2: nuts that barstool has made so popular magnificent, Okay, truly,

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Speaker 2: called nine to eleven magnificent Wings. So a lot of

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Speaker 2: first three weeks of this NFL season. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: start off first and foremost with Jonathan Taylor of the

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Speaker 2: Everybody else but Jonathan Taylor has not disappointed in a

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Speaker 3: Is they're three and h taking care of business, taking

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Speaker 3: over Cook as you say, Dan who gets the help

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Speaker 3: And then number three is Christian McCaffrey. He's been consistent,

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Speaker 3: not world beating, but you're looking at eighteen seven, nineteen

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Speaker 3: And for all of their fails, and there have been many,

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Speaker 2: It's surprising to see on Christian McCaffrey to me, not

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Speaker 2: maybe top ten for Christian McCaffrey. He went earlier in

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Speaker 2: surprised on how good CMC has been and considering their

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Speaker 2: injuries in San Francisco, Mike, he's one of the few

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Speaker 2: do that. But McCaffrey being healthy right now has been

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Speaker 3: Three, currently tied for third with thirty two targets. It

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Speaker 2: You know who else I see in the top that

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Speaker 2: I was shocked about. Let's at Javonte Williams.

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Speaker 3: I've had just a magnificent start to the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and one thing I just did not expect, well

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Speaker 5: They give the carry to CD Lamb and he gets hurt.

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Speaker 5: it's bad businessman.

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Speaker 2: There's guys that fall in the draft, and we all

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Speaker 2: take Javonte Williams. My draft board is that he should

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Speaker 2: and people who did that are reaping the benefits. And

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Speaker 2: it's a good lesson to just get out of your

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Speaker 2: is at times, if somebody is falling, just take them.

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Speaker 2: And I think that those who have Javonte Williams are

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Speaker 4: Probably probably a lot of auto drafters reaping the best.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, that's a fair point. Yeah, that deep

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Speaker 3: end number two or high end three running back because

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Speaker 4: He's just sitting at the top of the consensus just

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Speaker 3: Up just that's a fair point number six right now.

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Speaker 3: A couple of twenty point performances, a little muted this

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Speaker 3: some early success running the football. Looked like he was

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Speaker 3: that trade to send, uh, send our guy Tank Bigsby

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Speaker 3: ten right now A thirteen point eight to fifteen and

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Speaker 2: So do you.

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Speaker 4: Still expect RJ. Harvey to eventually take that over or

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Speaker 4: as Dobbins start to the season kind of put that

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Speaker 3: I think he's got to put it on hold, right

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Speaker 3: And then obviously in the eye test, not.

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Speaker 2: Only has he been producing, he looks spry in doing so,

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Speaker 2: looks he looks fresh. So if you have those RJ.

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Speaker 3: And a guy that was always pretty pretty damn good

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Speaker 3: all right, he's back, he's ready to go. The offensive

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Speaker 3: lines finally healthy. This is good, and then down he

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 3: It's unfortunately now he's shuffling off a couple of stops

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Broncos were dominated pretty much statistically wise

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Speaker 2: he was their second leading receiver. But I think it's

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Speaker 2: three catches and nobody else was doing anything in the

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Speaker 2: Broncos air game. But just the love of Dobbins, I

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Speaker 2: You talked about our Jay Harvey maybe being a disappointing

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Speaker 2: rookie so far right now, the Ashton Genty story is

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Speaker 2: what Chip Kelly and the Raiders aren't doing. That's been

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Speaker 2: complete other end of the spectrum. I think it's over

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Speaker 2: for Nick Chubb. I don't see the light of day.

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Speaker 2: Not that we expected a ton from Nick Chubb, but

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Speaker 2: I picked him up late in a couple of leagues

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Speaker 2: because of the mixing injury. Sure Texans zero to three

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Speaker 2: right now, just not getting it going. He's getting the carries.

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Speaker 2: He had the late touchdown against the Bucketeers, but you

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Speaker 2: take that away and it's just been an abysmal start

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Speaker 2: couple of disappointments on what we thought, not that Nick

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Speaker 2: Chubb's expectations were high, but if you're looking for a

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Speaker 2: different running back, maybe what he Marx does end up

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Speaker 3: Well, but you thought you were going to get a

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards against the Cowboys in Week two,

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Speaker 2: and I know he was awful in Week three and

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Speaker 2: in week one, but it just to me is if

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Speaker 2: you were if you wanted Jackson Dart to be the guy,

436
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Speaker 2: then just start in week one. Just I don't know

437
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Speaker 2: what has changed in the in the three weeks. Maybe

438
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Speaker 2: it's Andrew Thomas's health, maybe that was something about it.

439
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it just seems like an interesting

440
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Speaker 2: time to do this when you also have showdowns. And

441
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Speaker 2: we touched it a little about this on the pod,

442
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Speaker 2: but Chargers are no picnic. You got the Saints the

443
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Speaker 2: week after, but then you've got the Eagles, you got

444
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Speaker 2: the Broncos, you got the Eagles again, the forty nine

445
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Speaker 2: ers like these are tough defenses that you're going to

446
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Speaker 2: be facing in the next four to five weeks. So

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart's gonna have a lot to deal with now

448
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Speaker 2: as the starter. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've had a lot of the conversation of

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Speaker 3: the break glass in case of emergency for Brian Davil

451
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Speaker 3: and Joe Shane to say, all right, we have to

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Speaker 3: see what he is to potentially save our jobs. And

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Speaker 3: you know only you know, we don't have the transcripts

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Speaker 3: of the meetings with the higher ups from that, but

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Speaker 3: that's the only thing we can assume here. The Jamis

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Speaker 3: Winston point, you make Dan absolutely part of the product.

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Speaker 3: I kept wondering if are they just waiting for an

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Speaker 3: injury and then they get some sweetheart offer by a

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Speaker 3: team that's desperate to bring in a quarterback, either for

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Speaker 3: Jamis or for Russ for that matter, If someone thinks

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Speaker 3: that Russ can come in and.

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Speaker 2: Be that guy.

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Speaker 3: I think we've now got several years of evidence that

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Speaker 3: that last year in Seattle, whatever the numbers may have

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Speaker 3: been in Denver a bit inflated like the mile high air.

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Speaker 3: See that's what we do, you know. And the moon

467
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Speaker 3: ball is effective against terrible defenses that don't adjust, hi,

468
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Speaker 3: Matt Eberfluse, But against everybody else it doesn't work. Right.

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Speaker 3: He can't buy extra time, which is something that Jackson

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Speaker 3: Dark will be able to do. But yeah, with that

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Speaker 3: gauntlet of the schedule, except for that soft spot against

472
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Speaker 3: the Saints, certainly trial under fire for Jackson Dark.

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Speaker 2: Just even the usage of him in certain package play

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Speaker 2: right was odd. And I would just think that the

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Speaker 2: natural point to show that there isn't panic and maybe

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Speaker 2: this is a panic move by the Giants that you

477
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Speaker 2: are to your point of break glass in case of emergency.

478
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Speaker 2: This is what it is. But if you really want

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Speaker 2: to show that you have a handle and a grasp

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Speaker 2: on it, I would make Jameis Winston the starter. But

481
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Speaker 2: that's not the case. And either way, now that Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson isn't the starting quarterback, I think that it's good

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Speaker 2: news for those Molikue neighbors owners that were just frustrated

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Speaker 2: from what they had on on Sunday night after what again,

485
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Speaker 2: was a great week two, and Wandell Robinson the same thing.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how it carries over in week four. It's

487
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Speaker 2: going to be somewhere in between of what they did

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Speaker 2: in weeks two and three. But just yeah, curious at

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Speaker 2: the timing of this now, Yeah, I have nothing else.

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Speaker 3: Depth of target has to change, right, even just running

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Speaker 3: a lot of deep all right, just go downfield and

492
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Speaker 3: try to make something happen circumstance because the targets are there.

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Speaker 3: Just they're terrible targets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're not.

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Speaker 3: They're not makeable winnable short intermediate routes. So I gotta

496
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Speaker 3: image and the route tree gets carved up a little

497
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Speaker 3: bit differently here. Scatabo Obviously we talked about him a

498
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Speaker 3: lot in terms of the fantasy pickup, with Tracy being

499
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Speaker 3: out curious to see if you get a little more

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Speaker 3: Devin Singletary given his pass protection skills that maybe you'll

501
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Speaker 3: need him. But Andrew Thomas coming back certainly does bolster

502
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Speaker 3: the offensive line at least a little bit to give

503
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Speaker 3: you a little bit of hope that the young guy

504
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Speaker 3: is it just fed to the wolves.

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Speaker 2: Another note in the NFL is Mike Evans of the Buccaneers.

506
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Speaker 2: We knew that he had the hamstring injury, but now

507
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Speaker 2: a bit clearer picture of what's going to happen with him.

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Times reporting Evans is going to miss three

509
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Speaker 2: to four weeks of action. I'm not sure, Mike on

510
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Speaker 2: how much this affects Baker Mayfield in a positive way,

511
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Speaker 2: because it obviously doesn't. However, is this a bump for Abuka?

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Speaker 2: Is this a bump for Bucky Irving? Is this a

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Speaker 2: bump for Rashad White? As Tampa maybe relies on the

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Speaker 2: run game a little bit, you know, more more than

515
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Speaker 2: they already do. What does evans injury do to the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 3: I think you get a little bit of a bump

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Speaker 3: in the running back position. As just said, I think

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Speaker 3: White will be a little more of a factor. We

519
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Speaker 3: saw him, you know, with a nice game going back

520
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Speaker 3: to the beginning of the season. Bucky Irving as a

521
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Speaker 3: pass catcher has been very active, so more Kate Otton.

522
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Speaker 3: So I think if you have shares in him or

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Speaker 3: you hate your tight end position. We talked about a

524
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Speaker 3: lot in the other parts of the pot on that

525
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Speaker 3: Dan of how enigmatic and confusing the tight end position is.

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Speaker 3: Beyond two or three guys, So Kate Oughton suddenly gets

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Speaker 3: a bounce, and then we saw Sterling Shepherd take on

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Speaker 3: a pretty decent target count for week four. He's a

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Speaker 3: great play because we've seen how in Depp the second

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Speaker 3: and third cornerbacks have been in Philly where teams have

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Speaker 3: been able to feast. So for Abuca, it'll be interesting

532
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Speaker 3: because he'll draw the number one going forward. Not that

533
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Speaker 3: he might not have been doing that soon enough anyway,

534
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Speaker 3: but taking this big piece off the board take some

535
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Speaker 3: of the red zone efficiency off. So I'm a little

536
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Speaker 3: nervous there in terms of how many of these possessions

537
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Speaker 3: might stall and become fueld goal tries. But all that

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Speaker 3: to say that they've drafted well. Eventually the rest of

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00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 3: the bodies come back right when we look at Godwin

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Speaker 3: and McMillan and those guys that potentially down the road,

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Speaker 3: we see that wide receiving corps restocked in full. But

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Speaker 3: for this week and for the next couple, I'm not

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Speaker 3: terribly concerned. Just a little bit of a distribution realignment.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and then and then just one other final Terry

545
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Speaker 2: mclaurin's going to get a second opinion on this quad injury.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll find out more about him throughout the

547
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Speaker 2: week from Dan Quinn, but he could miss the Commander's

548
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Speaker 2: game against the Falcons. And so far McLaurin has been

549
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Speaker 2: a disappointment. Maybe should have had a touchdown against the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: just didn't didn't happen. However, a quad injury could keep

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Speaker 2: him out of action on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Tough trying to find who then the next man up, right,

553
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Speaker 3: he becomes zach Ertz, becomes your number one wide receiving

554
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Speaker 3: Daniels Eckler.

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Speaker 2: McLaurin not available to you three weeks into the season,

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Speaker 2: like crazy.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely amazing. So what we've got some Luke McCaffrey. Yeah, anybody,

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Speaker 3: anybody wanted to die them? Look, targets are targets? Are

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Speaker 3: they great targets? Because you still got Mariota probably under center.

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Speaker 3: His best plays were done with his legs, So this

561
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Speaker 3: becomes a no fly zone.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this whenever we bring up Luke McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: Reminds me of when Jason Stewart texted me last year

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Speaker 2: and instead of Lad McConkey. I don't know if it

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Speaker 2: autocorrected to McCaffrey, but I was like, well, we knew

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey was out, so I thought he was talking

567
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Speaker 2: about Luke McCaffrey, and I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't play him.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't play him at that time. So when I

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Speaker 2: saw Luke get it to the end zone, it's the

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Speaker 2: first thing that I remembered. And Jason's like, I meant

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Speaker 2: Ladd McConkie, And for some reason, the phone said McCaffrey.

572
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Speaker 2: But hey, maybe Luke McCaffrey is the play against the

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Speaker 2: Falcons team that has their own issues to deal with.

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Speaker 3: Wow, we can do a full therapy session on them.

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Speaker 2: All right, here's my carbon I'm Dan byer Ian Roddy

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Speaker 2: is the executive producer. Don't worry if if I Want

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Speaker 2: Your Flex sounds a little disjointed. It's just we had

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Speaker 2: to get this news to you now. We wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk about it. It's ever changing in the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: and we wanted to make sure that your lineups and

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Speaker 2: everything that came with it were best suited for victory.

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Speaker 2: In Week four, We're going to take a time out

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Speaker 2: and be back with more of I Want Your Flex

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Speaker 2: right after this. Not a surprise that Lamar Jackson and

585
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen are your top two quarterbacks so far three

586
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Speaker 2: weeks into the fantasy football season. However, the guys below

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Speaker 2: them may be a bit of a surprise. Mike Carmen

588
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Speaker 2: quarterback wise, what stands out to you through three weeks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as we go through the three weeks, we've celebrated

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Speaker 3: everything with Daniel Jones obviously. Caleb Williams for fantasy purposes.

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Speaker 3: Whatever the talking heads are and do they love of

592
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Speaker 3: each other or not, doesn't matter. He's going to keep throwing.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna make plays with his legs. Caleb Williams number

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Speaker 3: three for fantasy purposes. Drake may don't have to like

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Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. He is tied for six amongst

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Speaker 3: fantasy quarterbacks with Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: To this point, he's mc guillotine League quarterback, so nice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, aside from the turnovers that he's had a

599
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Speaker 2: couple of fumbles and some picks, he's been very good

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Speaker 2: stat wise.

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Speaker 3: Not too shabby. And then Patrick Mahomes for all again

602
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Speaker 3: the handwringing of ah, they don't do anything well. He's

603
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Speaker 3: making plays with his legs. So he's still fantasy QB

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Speaker 3: number eight, which is a little bit shocking. On the

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Speaker 3: other side, we expected a little bit better and at

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Speaker 3: least mid QB two for CJ. Stroud, it's been a

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Speaker 3: disaster to this point, to a tongue of aloa. Despite

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Speaker 3: all of those big weapons. He's at twenty two. Bo

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Speaker 3: Nicks expecting him to capitalize and keep building on a

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Speaker 3: great end to his rookie season. He's a back end

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Speaker 3: too right now, so it's a bit tough to watch

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Speaker 3: some of these games at this point, is like waiting

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Speaker 3: for those breakthroughs through moments, dan Ian. And then we've

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Speaker 3: talked a lot about Marvin Harrison and his hands betraying

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, but Murray's not making the plays with his

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Speaker 3: legs that used to put him over the top currently

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Speaker 3: QB fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough when we see the You know, obviously,

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Speaker 2: if you took Jayden Daniels, you don't have him for

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Speaker 2: week three. He didn't do much in week two, dinged up.

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Speaker 2: And if you have Joe Burrow, if you drafted a

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Speaker 2: quarterback early, yeah, feeling the pain of that, but it

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Speaker 2: if you took Josh Allen, if you took Lamar, you're fine.

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Speaker 2: But if you took one of those other guys, and

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Speaker 2: if you took Jalen Hurts, you're all right as well.

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Speaker 2: But if you had Burrow and Daniels, it kind of

627
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: has set you back. But I think that the guys

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Speaker 2: that stood up or that could have something moving forward

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Speaker 2: that maybe aren't there right now. Like I see Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: he's eleventh, and I think Rogers' last two games are

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Speaker 2: probably more of what we're going to see from Rogers.

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Speaker 2: So we did week one against the Jets. But like

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young, like we saw him come on at the

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Speaker 2: end of last season, maybe a slow start to the Panthers,

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Speaker 2: but now they're starting to roll, at least with the

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Speaker 2: win against Atlanta. I think someone like Bryce Young could

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Speaker 2: be a boost up. So if you have Burrow and

638
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Speaker 2: you're trying to find that backup quarterback to replace him,

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Speaker 2: maybe Bryce Young is a guy you go out and

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Speaker 2: look forward to try to fill that gap. Jadon Daniels,

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Speaker 2: we don't know a status yet for week four. Again

642
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Speaker 2: dan Quinn saying day to day and we'll find out more,

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Speaker 2: but he should be back at least in the near future.

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Speaker 2: But if you're looking for a guy like Stafford's numbers

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Speaker 2: are his numbers and he's a fine play for a week,

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Speaker 2: but if I want to keep a long term one,

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Speaker 2: I'd look for more upside than someone like Bryce Young,

648
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Speaker 2: who's about nineteenth right now.

649
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're looking for the one week play,

650
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Speaker 3: we talk about daily fantasy leagues or that stop gap

651
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: super flex whatever making plays with his legs. We saw

652
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Speaker 3: a twenty point performance in Marcus Mariota. He's got the

653
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Speaker 3: aforementioned falcons on the other side this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about what about Mahomes? With Rashi Rice and

655
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: those guys coming back.

656
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Speaker 3: He's a guy that Yeah, I think there's value there.

657
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

658
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Speaker 1: They can't run the football, so it's going to be

659
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Speaker 1: on his arm.

660
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Speaker 3: And that'll be the curiosity again whether how many of

661
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Speaker 3: these teams get into the marketplace to go try to

662
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Speaker 3: find Freese Hall or one of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Justin Fields out with he with his concussion,

664
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Speaker 2: curious on his status as well. I don't know how

665
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Speaker 2: many people were starting Justin Fields. But if he comes

666
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Speaker 2: back healthy, could expect to see some points at the

667
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Speaker 2: quarterback position, all right, tight end wise? Hoof? I mean,

668
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Speaker 2: I tell yeah, if you had if you had some

669
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Speaker 2: value in brock Boers and you were low up on him,

670
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: you're probably disappointed with what you've gotten so far. If

671
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Speaker 2: you took value on the back end, kudos to you

672
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: because you're probably making Hey, if you took someone like

673
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Speaker 2: a Tucker Craft or Hunter Henry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the tough thing, right, trying to figure out

675
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Speaker 3: some level of consistency, right, And that's the big thing,

676
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Speaker 3: so we don't have the roller coaster effect, which is

677
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Speaker 3: really kind of what we've gotten through most of most

678
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Speaker 3: of our fantasy tight ends to this point. Trey McBride

679
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Speaker 3: nine to one, ten, eight, twelve eight. That's about as

680
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Speaker 3: consistent as you get as an overwhelming no. But it's

681
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Speaker 3: good enough for top five in leagues where you're still

682
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Speaker 3: starting a tight end each and every week, and then

683
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Speaker 3: you get the pop up, right. TJ Howkinson gets the

684
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Speaker 3: late touchdown. Prior two weeks, he'd score a combined four

685
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Speaker 3: point seven points, right, So like that's the thing. Mark

686
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: Andrews twenty four points, including that late touchdown in the

687
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Speaker 3: Monday at affair against Detroit. That effort is good enough

688
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: to catip hold of the tenth because he had scored

689
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: one point nine points in the first two weeks. That's

690
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Speaker 3: where we're at in the variability of the tight end

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Speaker 3: position right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean trying to acquire going out and getting brock

693
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Speaker 2: Bowers could be could be an opportunity. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that you're going to trade him unless you get some

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00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: real extreme value. But I don't know who else you

696
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Speaker 2: would trade for outside of here Trey McBride with the

697
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Speaker 2: tight end position. I mean, George Kittle comes back, maybe

698
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: maybe somebody's like, I'll just play Hunter Henry and I

699
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: can try to add value by by trading George Kittle.

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Speaker 2: But there wasn't anybody there that I would look at

701
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Speaker 2: and say like, I got to get this guy out

702
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: my roster because of the very the variability that you

703
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Speaker 2: talk about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the last couple of weeks, and he's a guy

705
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Speaker 3: that I mean, he got paid this offseason, so knew

706
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Speaker 3: he was in their plans. But look at Ferguson in Dallas.

707
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: He's again what tied for third most targets. So a

708
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: guy that Dak Prescott's certainly gonna look you and then

709
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 3: you don't have CD Lamb. The next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: Got to say that Lamb. So it's only going to

711
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Speaker 4: go up.

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Speaker 3: So at least for the next two to four weeks,

713
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Speaker 3: if not longer, he should retain some pretty solid value. Currently,

714
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Speaker 3: tight end number six back to back double digit scoring

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Speaker 3: weeks go back to zach Ertz. Muted in week three,

716
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Speaker 3: but was big the first two weeks with Jaden Daniels.

717
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Speaker 3: Perhaps you know the bye while Daniels is on the

718
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: shelf that he can get there. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's just so many others that you're just scratching your head, going,

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Speaker 3: all right, where's the usage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dallas Goddard maybe a value considering. I mean, I

722
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: know he's rostered, so at least he should be. And

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Speaker 2: when you look at what the Eagles are doing for

724
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Speaker 2: the reasons why I'm not as high on AJ Brown

725
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: and Devonte Smith moving forward, I'm actually higher on Dallas

726
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: Goddard for those same reasons because at least his numbers,

727
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to get eight catches for one hundred

728
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: yards in the touchdown to be valuable. He can do

729
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: what he does and get seven, eight or nine points.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else is just a crapshoot on whether they score

731
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Speaker 2: a touchdown or not. So it's tough pickings for the

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Speaker 2: tight end position right now, no question all right, let's

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Speaker 2: get to the Week four preview Seahawks and Cardinals. The

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Speaker 2: James Connor season is over for Arizona, So Trey Benson

735
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Speaker 2: was the name talked about in previous podcasts. How do

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Speaker 2: you shake down and shape up the Seahawks Cardinals matchup

737
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Speaker 2: on Thursday night?

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Speaker 3: Mike, Yeah, I mean, first off, when we go to

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Speaker 3: the running back position, I'd have Benson in as a

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Speaker 3: mid RB two, tough defense that you're going against, no

741
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: question about it. You mentioned Trey mcbrod as we were

742
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Speaker 3: going through the tight ends. Well, you know this better

743
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: than anybody. Your team does not like to defend opposing

744
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: tight ends. So he comes in either one or two

745
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: on the rankings for this week, no question about it.

746
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Speaker 3: Quarterback wise, Murray's on the outside of the top twelve

747
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Speaker 3: in this match, but I know it's at home. Forty

748
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: three is the total Seattle the narrow road favorite at one.

749
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Speaker 3: But I don't see a lot of starts in this

750
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: matchup right. You got Jackson Smith and Jigmu without question.

751
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker is going to be either a back end

752
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: one or high end two at the running back position,

753
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: but Sam's not not startable. It's pretty good defense that

754
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: you're going up against in Arizona. So he's like a

755
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: mid two with upside perhaps, but I think that's it. Like,

756
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: I can't start Harrison in good conscience right now with

757
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 3: where this game was. If you want to say, hey,

758
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: it's got to work eventually. Okay, maybe flexworthy, but I

759
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: gotta think on my roster. I got another option that's

760
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: playing better consistent football.

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Speaker 2: It's it's completely frustrating. I'm riding with Harrison for one

762
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: more week, but it's more out of necessity than anything

763
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: right now, just because of Holly built my team. But

764
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: you're right, there aren't borderline guys with Walker. Yeah, he's

765
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: going to start for it, as you said, Jsn's going

766
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: to start, but anybody else really on Seattle and what

767
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: could be? You said the over under was forty three. Gosh,

768
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: this has seventeen to thirteen right now all over.

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Speaker 3: But like even Horton with a couple of touchdowns but

770
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Speaker 3: four targets, making the most of them, but it becomes

771
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Speaker 3: the things, he becomes rostered. I think he's one of

772
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Speaker 3: those guys you pick up and we wait and see

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Speaker 3: what develops with Sam Darnold and these secondary receivers. Because

774
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: right now it's going to be ten or more targets

775
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: for JSN each week and then shuffle up between the rest.

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Speaker 3: At least that's what it appears to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing that I would say in I

778
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Speaker 2: don't know if this is why Seattle's a favorite, but

779
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Speaker 2: because of the physical nature of the ballgame. Arizona just

780
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Speaker 2: played against San Francisco now on a short week now

781
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Speaker 2: without James Connor, I'm curious to see if that has

782
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: any lasting effect. Or Seattle and their game with the

783
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Speaker 2: Saints wrapped up basically by halftime, and now if you're

784
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Speaker 2: looking at the short week, you can plan and maybe

785
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: put guys in at that point. I'm wondering if Seattle

786
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: is a little bit fresher coming in, but that probably

787
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Speaker 2: wouldn't change any fantasy minds for Week four.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean it's also one do you look at

789
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: bold defenses?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I like Seattle's defense for sure, just

791
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: because of their pressure to be able to get on

792
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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray and you pointed out the running yards aren't

793
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Speaker 2: necessarily there. Yeah. Sam Hey, the last time Sam Donold

794
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: played in that stadium, it was not good. He was

795
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: in a Vikings uniform. Against the Rams and we saw

796
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Speaker 2: what happened. That has nothing to do with the Cardinals

797
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Speaker 2: Seahawks matchup, but he can't be prone for interceptions at

798
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Speaker 2: that point. And if you don't love what you have

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Speaker 2: over the the upcoming weekend with certain games, I think

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Speaker 2: there could be some value there for.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Thursday Night football, let's get some NFC West.

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Speaker 2: Action with the rivalry uniforms that will be appearing on

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Speaker 2: your screen. Also, as you're planning, had for week four

804
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Speaker 2: another Monday night doubleheader, but the staggered start, so Ian

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Speaker 2: Roddy Jets Dolphins. At what point do you think, if

806
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: at any you will turn off the Jets game and

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Speaker 2: turn over to Broncos Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I mean, like I said, for me to

809
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Speaker 4: be satisfied with this season of Jets football, I just

810
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 4: want to see them not give up. But with that

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Speaker 4: being said, this is the Dolphins, who's arguably the worst

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00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: team in the league. They have to win this one. Like,

813
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 4: if it looks like they're having any struggles against the Dolphins,

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00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: maybe that's a little too You.

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Speaker 3: Know, well, Dolphins are a narrow home favorite two and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 4: I mean total, I just I want to see them

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Speaker 4: take care of business. I know maybe it's a little

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Speaker 4: a little bit of wishful thinking, but this is the

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00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: kind of game you need to go out and win.

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Speaker 4: It's a division rivalry, Aaron Glenn. If you want to

822
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Speaker 4: endear yourself to the Jets faithful, you got to you

823
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Speaker 4: gotta beat the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Will the Jets be a streaming defense of Ian Roddy's

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Speaker 2: find out on the next I Want Your Flex podcast? Yes,

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Speaker 2: Michael have his Week four rankings and not plays in

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Speaker 2: gold Soores. Ian, I'll have his streaming defenses and I'll

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Speaker 2: give you some Survivor picks as well. So that's gonna

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Speaker 2: do it for this episode of I Want Your Flex.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your week. Enjoy fall now that

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Speaker 2: it's here, officially here. We are in autumn, so it

832
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: is officially Football Fall, Friends Forever, all of the f

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Speaker 2: signs that you can find on any craft store, it

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Speaker 2: has arrived. So for Mike Carmen and Ian Roddy, I'm

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Speaker 2: Dan Beyer. This is I Want Your Flex