WEBVTT - The Perils of Pericles, an International Drug Trafficker

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I had a job interview once and I

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<v Speaker 1>went in and the person asked me, what where do

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<v Speaker 1>you see yourself in five years? I knew it was

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<v Speaker 1>a I shouldn't say it, but I said prison. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to Ozzy Confidential. I'm your host, you Jean Sir Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do we got this week? I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>very simply. We got a one mister pillcles most dramas.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is gonna take a bit. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of Gene Hackman. He came to my attention

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost with the nineteen seventies flick The French Connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic movie. If you haven't seen it, you should see it,

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<v Speaker 1>about a detective who's chasing an international drug trafficker through

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<v Speaker 1>the streets of New York and fundamentally eventually to France.

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<v Speaker 1>Great story, great movie. I'm no more spoiler alerts. Watch

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway. Stuck in the back of my head this

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<v Speaker 1>idea international drug trafficker, drug trafficker, And then I see

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<v Speaker 1>a newspaper kiosk man arrested selling drugs for his mother

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<v Speaker 1>wear all over the globe. There's my international drug trafficker.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine that. Come on so he says in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he is, I can get you off of

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<v Speaker 1>six years. I'm going six years. I go for first offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I go really and I had no meth, no guns,

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<v Speaker 1>no cash, no coke, no heroin. I go six years,

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<v Speaker 1>because hey man, I like to err on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of caution and tell you the higher number than to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I'm going to get you off. And I go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make me feel any better. To be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I'd rather you lie to me. As my

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<v Speaker 1>mother fell into a deeper state of alzheimer, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a payer medical bills. You all of a sudden tacked

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<v Speaker 1>five grand onto your expenditures every month. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>come from somewhere. Now you can say, as some people have,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have gotten another job. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could have, because I was working

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<v Speaker 1>my butt off at the gym. But the stress of

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<v Speaker 1>her being in this facility, in a better care facility,

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<v Speaker 1>a better care facility, her health is declining. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a profitable GM, as you know, or I did, and

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<v Speaker 1>the stress of you know, her impending doom just took

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<v Speaker 1>a toll on me. It's not a huge amount. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's on top of everything else. I had employees, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a rent, I had a fiance. I was taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of her kid. So it started off at fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars a month, went up every time she would

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<v Speaker 1>get kicked out, it would have to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>different level of care kicked out. She one time she

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<v Speaker 1>got kicked out because she was throwing rocks at cars.

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<v Speaker 1>And you met my mother. Yeah, yeah, Another time she

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<v Speaker 1>would walk down the hallways and just punch people in

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<v Speaker 1>the face. My mother's like four foot ten, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was the dementia, man, And yeah, she would

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<v Speaker 1>yell and scream, and it just got progressively worse, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the part of the disease. So she

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<v Speaker 1>would get kicked out, we'd have to find a different,

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<v Speaker 1>higher level of care. And as that happened, the costs

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<v Speaker 1>went up. So that's how I got into that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Bruce Cutler, John got his mouthpiece,

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<v Speaker 1>his lawyer, and he said to me, look, only a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking degenerate goes into crime accepting the three occasions, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're poor, unless you're despairing, or as part of your culture.

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<v Speaker 1>In this instance, I'm gonna go for despairing. So every

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<v Speaker 1>one of us, I imagine, if we think about our

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<v Speaker 1>criminal proclivities, we have a good idea of the type

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<v Speaker 1>of crime we'd be good at. My own personal doctor

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<v Speaker 1>would tell me, you know, steroids don't work, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do. You're monitoring me. You know that they were.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he said is there have not been any

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<v Speaker 1>studies done to prove that they were correct. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was a very smart man. I mean, what he was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do was to push me away from him.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like you know, saying, you know, cocaine will

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<v Speaker 1>not get you high. It's like, okay, but it will.

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<v Speaker 1>So so your doctor was telling you know, they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to push you away. Where were you getting the steroids

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, you know, guys at the gym. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how it started, Guys at the gym. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know quite a few. I think you know quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few. Yeah. Back in the time, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is before they became what are they class three drug?

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<v Speaker 1>This is when it was misdemeanor to basically possess and

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<v Speaker 1>sell and use whatever. So we would make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of runs into Mexico back in the heyday, Mexican just

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<v Speaker 1>stuff our pants, you know. Come back. The one time

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<v Speaker 1>I brought two friends down with me, it was Memorial

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<v Speaker 1>Day and we went in there. We bought about five

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand o's with the stuff, so I divvied it

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<v Speaker 1>up amongst us. You know, we had stuff in our

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<v Speaker 1>crotch pants, socks, and I think the pharmacy. The pharmacist

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<v Speaker 1>told the authorities because at the border it took us

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<v Speaker 1>an hour just to get overwalking. So out of a crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>they picked two of us. Now I was huge at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so it was kind of a bad idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but I figured with all these many people that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way that I'm going to be picked out of

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<v Speaker 1>a crowd. Well I was. You know, they found this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave me an option to pay a five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars fine. They would take the products and if I

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<v Speaker 1>had never got in trouble again in two years, they

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<v Speaker 1>would be sponged off my record or I can come

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<v Speaker 1>back to court and fight it. So I obviously took

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<v Speaker 1>the first option. Here we called it a day. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were able. I mean I had friends that

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<v Speaker 1>would go down and put it in tires, drive back.

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<v Speaker 1>It just didn't matter. It was a free for all.

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<v Speaker 1>Selling drugs is one thing, selling enough drugs so that

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting nabbed by the FBI something else entirely. I

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<v Speaker 1>met a guy online I was I was looking to

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<v Speaker 1>get back into competing. He somehow got me to become

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<v Speaker 1>partners with him. And then right after that, my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was diagnosed. So we ramped up our operation. So I

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<v Speaker 1>went from you know, one hundred bottles a month two

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know when I when I was arrested. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we were in the process of getting a warehouse. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a pillow press. We were doing close to a

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<v Speaker 1>mill here. So how did you know? I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>know chemist? I mean I'm not Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't. I don't have the formal training per se,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm I'm a home chemist. If you will, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if somebody gives me a bunch of powders,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I put salt and pepper. Again, you just

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<v Speaker 1>you need Uh It's terists are not that hard to make. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, granted, there's a there's a learning curve and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be careful about it. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>be uh you know, uh sterile. Uh you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that it's going into your bloodstream. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a normal it's not really as important, although it

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<v Speaker 1>should be because your stomach asses will basically kill everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are solvents, there are into microbials that you

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<v Speaker 1>put in there you sterilize everything. And this being stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that I also used, it made sense that I was

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<v Speaker 1>extra careful. So it was the idea that if you

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<v Speaker 1>got the separate elements shift that you couldn't be busted

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<v Speaker 1>for them because they were not combined into anything. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's illegal. At that point it was, it was illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was this was the right after Barry Bonds

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing. So what was the benefit then

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<v Speaker 1>of bringing in the well. I'll tell you what. If

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<v Speaker 1>I get one hundred grams of let's say it's astosterolprope,

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<v Speaker 1>I can turn that one hundred grams of raw powder

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<v Speaker 1>into one hundred plus vials, okay, for the cost to

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<v Speaker 1>me of maybe two dollars a vial. I'm selling that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff wholesale for thirty and that guy is turning around

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<v Speaker 1>selling for sixty and whatever else is going down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a good business. Oh, absolutely. The profit margins

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<v Speaker 1>are huge. But yeah, I just didn't realize that's time,

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<v Speaker 1>how much totally took on me, you know, having to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that. So you know, I'm a big guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm big strong man. I don't need you know, counseling.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need any I'll take care of it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the case. You know. It eats you up inside.

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<v Speaker 1>It started off as a hobby, the making of the steroids,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we moved down to other Viking in ambient

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<v Speaker 1>valium xanax. So and how did you decide to branch

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<v Speaker 1>out to vic it in and money? Yeah, shit, you

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<v Speaker 1>name it. Coke. No, no, that I have to give

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<v Speaker 1>myself very little credit, but what credit is to I

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<v Speaker 1>was not gonna mess with coke. I was not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mess with meth Uh. They said that I had MDMA.

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<v Speaker 1>What I had was an analog, so it was not MTMA.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just positive for MDMA. Now it is nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>near MDMA. It's not the quality, but it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those analogs. So sold ecstasy technically, yes, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to be specific, yes, were you doing

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<v Speaker 1>with this? You're about to move into warehouse that one

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<v Speaker 1>day you wake up like any other day. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a feeling for quite some time. My ex at

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<v Speaker 1>the time was saying, you got to stop doing this

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<v Speaker 1>ship and you know, I h I said, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But once the money starts flowing in, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>you start to rationalize and justify thing. You're like, we

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Midtown Pallet, you know, it's a quite neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in a ten you know, department building, and

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<v Speaker 1>we kept seeing this white van outside but it was

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<v Speaker 1>out of place. It wasn't a newer van. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just like it wasn't beat up, but it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>weird van and you'd see it outside the house. But

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<v Speaker 1>I had this uneasy feeling for over a month, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was under observation. I think for three or four

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't figure out what I was doing because I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't out in the open. None of my stuff took

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<v Speaker 1>a place in a face to face, hand to hand transaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine was all mailed. So they see me leaving with

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<v Speaker 1>bags every day and go to the post office for

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<v Speaker 1>like three or four different post offices, you know, forty

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<v Speaker 1>thirty packs at a time, three or four different post offices.

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<v Speaker 1>Why just because you don't want you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>RaSE suspicion. I mean you're mailing a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you mail fifty packs or one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>packs out of one post office, the chances that one

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<v Speaker 1>might get seized are much greater. But I knew every

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<v Speaker 1>postal worker from Palo Alto to you know, San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>So see, the van is making you kind of use

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of weird. But you're discounting rush it off

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<v Speaker 1>with it as a day. Well, strangely enough, helicopters are

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<v Speaker 1>playing no no, no, no no. I'll tell you the

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<v Speaker 1>exact story. I remember yesterday. You don't forget this ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I was laying a bad naked I was watching ironically

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<v Speaker 1>Law and Order, and I was drifting in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep and I heard this knocking. I had my

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom door closed, so I thought they were doing construction

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<v Speaker 1>because they were doing construction next door, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention and it kept going on. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that they were yelling police, get to open

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<v Speaker 1>the door search form. Uh. So I walked out to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what the noise was and the door just blew off.

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<v Speaker 1>The hinges Ida Homeland Security FBI and the local police department.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm naked and they're like get on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, really, dude, can I you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing is say, I'm not doing you know. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any weapons right right, right right? You

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<v Speaker 1>know where am I hiding him? Right? Just just relax?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got nothing. So they put me on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor of the handcuff me. Yeah, tore the house apart,

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<v Speaker 1>said where are the drugs? I go, really, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>like five huge boxes in the living room, unopened. I

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<v Speaker 1>go right there. But I mean they tore tore the

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<v Speaker 1>house up. When I was arrested. There's two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy thousand dollars with the stuff in my house. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sitting here talking to this guy, talking to him,

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<v Speaker 1>not separated by plexiglass, and I'm wondering one point two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar question how he beat the rap. So you

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<v Speaker 1>show up in the court and suit and you sit

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<v Speaker 1>there and then they say, well, we're gonna move this

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<v Speaker 1>for continuance next month. We'll see you next month. And

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<v Speaker 1>this went on for years. Oh, it wasn't a thing

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<v Speaker 1>speedy try or yeah, but you don't want that, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't want that. No you don't. Why, well, because

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<v Speaker 1>what happened was I had something that they called a

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<v Speaker 1>safety net. Because I don't have a real criminal history,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to provide them information as to how I

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<v Speaker 1>ran my operation. They wanted to indict my girl, my

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<v Speaker 1>fiance at the time. I said, she had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it. Man, she did or she really didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the God's honest truth. She wanted you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, she didn't even know. But that's how

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<v Speaker 1>they get you to move on. So I spilled had

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<v Speaker 1>five boxes in the literary right. No, no, no no, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying she was completely non complicity in that manner,

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<v Speaker 1>but that came towards the end. In the beginning, she

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea. For the first couple of years, she

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea. Has it ramped up, Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But she was the voice of reason, always telling me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to stop this, got to get

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<v Speaker 1>the shit out of the house, you gotta do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're working, you're not sleeping, you're stressed out. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the last of my concerns, and I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than law enforcement everybody else, because again we weren't dealing,

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<v Speaker 1>dealing in face to face, and I mean nobody knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knew. Some of my best friends didn't know. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So now what you want to do is get So

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is you want to get a continuance, continuous, continuous,

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<v Speaker 1>just to drag it out as long as possible. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>basically because they want to see are you able to reintegrate. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I never really was away from society in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>I was. This was not my main source of income,

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<v Speaker 1>It was not my employment, It was not what I

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<v Speaker 1>aspired to be. This was a secondary thing for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it came out of necessity. Now i'd be lying

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<v Speaker 1>to say that I didn't stay in it because of

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<v Speaker 1>the money. But this I didn't wake up one day

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<v Speaker 1>and go, you know what's missing out of my life

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<v Speaker 1>drug dealing? You know I need to be a drug dealer. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it came out of it was a necessity. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be flat out lying to you and say that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't pursue it further because of the money that

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<v Speaker 1>was coming in. And the thing with me was that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't sell ship. It was top notch quality stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you actually have a name for the business or no, No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's no need to name that really people, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have screen name. The mad Greek is what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to you know. In the end, we just kept

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<v Speaker 1>whittling and whittling away. Looking back on it, it was

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<v Speaker 1>very stressful. But those years that I was on pre

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<v Speaker 1>trial is they wanted to see am I able to

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<v Speaker 1>conduct myself in a manner consistent with what they were

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<v Speaker 1>looking for? You know, absolutely, you know, you don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>it at the time. You're like, well, is this gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fucking end? Because every month for a while I had

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<v Speaker 1>to go to court. It's like the army. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to break you down, you know, brainwash you and make

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<v Speaker 1>you conform to their standards and their desires. Once you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, they leave you alone. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who walks up to the abyss, is almost claimed

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<v Speaker 1>by the abyss, escapes the abyss by What do you

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<v Speaker 1>do after that? How do you square yourself with a

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<v Speaker 1>non abyss lifestyle? Looking back on it, it it all worked

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<v Speaker 1>out for the best. That's how I met the company

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm at now. I had three days to get

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<v Speaker 1>a job or to volunteer, and I actually ended up

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<v Speaker 1>volunteering for a place in San Francisco that cleans the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>works with a homeless. Now, if you would have told

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<v Speaker 1>me four years ago, three years ago, two years ago

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<v Speaker 1>that I'd be cleaning up shit, needles and garbage for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks a day, I tell you to go fuck yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, But I tell you what, I freaking loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I freaking loved it. I love the people that I

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<v Speaker 1>was working with. It made me feel better about myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was giving back to the community. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I actually work for the company in a different capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're still working with the homeless, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm glad for what I went through. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely made me a stronger person. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to do it all over again, But I

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<v Speaker 1>still wonder, you know, is there anything about that high

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<v Speaker 1>wire act that you miss just a little bit, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit? And if you do miss it just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, how tempting is it to go back. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a grip on what it is that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, you know, for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would have this hot beautiful, smart girl

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<v Speaker 1>that you know I would day and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden I'd be like, yeah, you know what I can

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<v Speaker 1>do better? But there was nothing wrong with her, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>In my mind though, it's like I got to go

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<v Speaker 1>a step above. Why why? You know, Enjoy the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy the people you're with, Enjoy where you're at. Or

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<v Speaker 1>what I don't miss is the stress, the sleepless nights.

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<v Speaker 1>And then always in the back of your mind there's

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<v Speaker 1>always the thought of fuck, what if I get caught?

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<v Speaker 1>What if I get busted? You know, so that that

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<v Speaker 1>follows you around all day. You know, you try to

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<v Speaker 1>put it out of your mind, go about your business.

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<v Speaker 1>But if your originable a reasonable human being, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna think about that. So i'n al miss the stress. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I almost the guilt of being involved in

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<v Speaker 1>that at all. You know, in retrospect it might be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a great thing that I did get busted

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<v Speaker 1>because who knows what what would have happened from there?

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go, purpose bound living in forming a

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.879
<v Speaker 1>man's entire existence, giving him super in support. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it sounds plausible, Eh, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it, but he believes it. And if it's

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<v Speaker 1>like Candide Voltaire's Great book, and doctor Pangloss says, and

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Pangloss says it is so, it must be so.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess I gotta believe man anyway. Next up,

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