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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much

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Speaker 1: for tuning in. Before we get down to the brass

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Speaker 1: taxi currency, let's give it up for the man the

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Speaker 1: myth legend, mister Max Williams. He is the two dollar

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Speaker 1: bill man. He keeps saying that uncle Kutchu. He was

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Speaker 1: supposed to say it, to which I was just going

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Speaker 1: to respond, cuckoo couchu. But he didn't say it, so

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Speaker 1: I had to say the whole thing. And I forgot

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Speaker 1: to say he's our superproducer Andy, and I should say

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Speaker 1: that because I made up the term superproducer. But look,

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Speaker 1: you're an old brown. I'm Ben Bowling, and we have

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Speaker 1: both lived in a world with a bunch of coupons

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Speaker 1: called dollars. Most of the most of our fellow Ridiculous

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Speaker 1: historians tuning in probably have touched less cash over the

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Speaker 1: years of what A saynal yeah, and less grass too,

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Speaker 1: less grass. Yeah, so they say to touch grass, it's

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Speaker 1: important to touch grass, leave your home. Oh I see, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I mean during the pandemic, right, A lot of

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Speaker 1: cash less like uh, I don't know when's the when's

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Speaker 1: the last time you interacted with a stack of US dollars?

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know about a stack, but I

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Speaker 1: am currently in possession of a one hundred dollar note. Ah,

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Speaker 1: same say that just it just goes in a drawer.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with it. It's basically

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Speaker 1: useless to me. I like to take it out and

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Speaker 1: look at it it, hold it up to the light

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Speaker 1: and see all the little anti counterfeiting measures. I like

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Speaker 1: to light my cigars with it. That's what I'm going

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Speaker 1: to use it for. You know, for a long time,

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Speaker 1: my girlfriend worked at a credit union, and she is

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Speaker 1: one of the ways that I learned about two dollar bills.

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Speaker 1: It's strange because you don't often see a two dollar

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Speaker 1: bill in the wild. And this is something that also

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Speaker 1: caught the attention of our research associate, Jeff. And this

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Speaker 1: is very close to Jeff. I think he went through

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Speaker 1: some stuff where he was trying to figure out where

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Speaker 1: the two dollar bill came from and come to find,

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Speaker 1: fellow ridiculous historians, the two dollar bill, the very first

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Speaker 1: two dollar note, is a little more than a week

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Speaker 1: older than the United States America. You say, oh, we

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Speaker 1: do right, It's like on June twenty fifth, seventeen seventy six,

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Speaker 1: the Continental Congress authorized the creation of two dollar denominations

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Speaker 1: as quote unquote bills of credit for you know, the

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Speaker 1: coming war. Yeah, and like you know, what's what's a

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Speaker 1: C note? Is that a hondo? I like guess c

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Speaker 1: notte as a houndo. But they referred to these things

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Speaker 1: as continentals, So a different kind of C note, a

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Speaker 1: two dollar bill and again named after the Continental Congress.

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Speaker 1: In eighteen sixty two, the federal government started printing paper money,

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Speaker 1: and then the first you know experiment with currency, the

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Speaker 1: two dollar bill was included. It was really I say

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Speaker 1: experiment only half joking. It really was so that they

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Speaker 1: were trying because at the time coins were much more popular.

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Speaker 1: The idea of a of a thing that was worth something,

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Speaker 1: you know, because of the precious metals it contained for

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Speaker 1: all intends and purposes, like like an iou right, yeah, man. Also,

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Speaker 1: if we consider at this time, two dollars was a

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Speaker 1: lot of money to just be growing around, which is

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Speaker 1: probably the reason both of us have our current one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollar bills that we take out and admire. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, most people are not going to be spending

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Speaker 1: eighteen sixties. This is where, this is where we want

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Speaker 1: to shout out a great article from Mental Fluss by

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Speaker 1: Hannah Kaiser, who notes, as you said, the two dollar

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Speaker 1: bill was first printed in eighteen sixty two as official

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Speaker 1: US currency instead of Continental Congress currency or whatever. US

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Speaker 1: Treasury started printing money in about eighteen sixty one, and

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Speaker 1: the two dollar bill went through a couple of different iterations.

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Speaker 1: I think first it was Alexander Hamilton, and a few

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Speaker 1: years after that it was it was Max's boy, Tommy

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Speaker 1: jay TJ to his friends, and now I believe his

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Speaker 1: mug graces the ten. Yeah, and I love the point

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Speaker 1: you make about coins, right, It can be a bit

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Speaker 1: are still a big thing. Paper money, you don't automatically

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Speaker 1: the kicker. The two dollar bill was not super popular

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Speaker 1: I need to rewatch it though, but it's by a

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Speaker 1: dude named John Benardo, and it is in a creativity,

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Speaker 1: as you would say, been called the two dollar Bill documentary,

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Speaker 1: I think, with a little bit of tongue planted firmly

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Speaker 1: So like, I mean what I mean, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: no math scientists here, but two dollars is quite a

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Speaker 1: You know. To be spending that all at once would

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Speaker 1: be the equivalent of making a massive purchase. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Like imagine, just for improvised example, imagine you have a

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Speaker 1: at a reasonable lunch counter. Now you are that person saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: do you have changed for a hundred on my five dollars?

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Speaker 1: You know, soup and sandwich. It's weird, and we were

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Speaker 1: all talking off air about this. There are a couple

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Speaker 1: of reasons, aside from superstition, that the two dollar bill

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Speaker 1: was so unpopular First, there's a lot of inflation going on.

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Speaker 1: We have a one dollar bill. Why can't we just

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Speaker 1: have two one dollar bills? Why do we need one

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Speaker 1: two dollar bill? It's easy. It always felt silly if

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Speaker 1: things are fifty cents, Why can't I just pay with

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Speaker 1: And then another factor, it's unpopular because especially during the

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Speaker 1: Great Depression, people preferred coins. The New York Times, even

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Speaker 1: before the Great Depression, was talking some trash about this.

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Speaker 1: They said gamblers especially considered the two dollar bill to

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Speaker 1: be unlucky. And I think we have a quote here

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Speaker 1: they have been avoided as start. I don't know that ter,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I got that was sort of the kicker.

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Speaker 1: be saddled with the jinks. And then the bit about

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Speaker 1: there's like a bad bad moon rising kind of vibe. What. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like the it's like the idea of destiny prophecy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as well, and gangsters are not gangsters. Gamblers gamblers and

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Speaker 1: gangsters alike are big believers and determinism, so they believe

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Speaker 1: in fate and destiny. And then you know, there's also

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Speaker 1: the political corruption. During the eighteen hundreds, you would frequently

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Speaker 1: So that's I would say, that's reason enough for this

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Speaker 1: very least, just too extravagant for the average human being.

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Speaker 1: And this caused the denomination to not be particularly widely circulated. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the Treasury Department was trying to do some pr

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Speaker 1: a time the US stopped printeen two dollars bills because

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Speaker 1: and they said, oh, I guess people don't want them.

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Speaker 1: They said, deuces to the deuce. No, I love that

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Speaker 1: you said deuce. That was the street name for the

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Speaker 1: you know, a sideways name for infernal powers, the deuce

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Speaker 1: this played another role in the bill's poor circulation because

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Speaker 1: you call it when you mess with currency. Folks who

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Speaker 1: So a lot of these were seen by you know,

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, right of those people in Canada that

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Speaker 1: were spoking their fivers remember that one yes, of course,

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Speaker 1: and then again in nineteen twenty nine Great Depression. A

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Speaker 1: don't really have a reason to use a two dollar bill.

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Speaker 1: It isn't until nineteen seventy five when the Secretary of

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Speaker 1: the Treasury, William E. Simon says, we're bringing back to

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Speaker 1: Just to clarify, Um, I think I maybe even misspoke.

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Speaker 1: They didn't stop printing it entirely until nineteen sixty six, correct,

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Speaker 1: and then they come back like like new coke. You know, hey,

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Speaker 1: And to your point, yeah, it was sort of like

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Speaker 1: You know, you just drop two dollars. What do we care?

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Speaker 1: What does the consumer care? You know about? I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's a very good point. Bet they're not exactly thinking,

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Speaker 1: not exactly men of the people. So you're right, Ben.

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Speaker 1: On April thirteenth, nineteen seventy six, which was Thomas Jefferson's birthday,

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Speaker 1: nice tie in there, you know, for the special drop

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Speaker 1: of the two dollars. Yeah, exactly. So this was a

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Speaker 1: redesigned note, I believe, right. Yeah, it was a new

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Speaker 1: two dollars bill, the new coke of currency. As you said,

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Speaker 1: it's got a picture depicting the presentation of the Declaration

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Speaker 1: the bill. Thomas Jefferson is all over it because they

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Speaker 1: the Treasury Department, the reprinting this would increase the use

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Speaker 1: but it had the absolute opposite effect. A lot of

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Speaker 1: gamblers and people at houses of ill repute. Pepperidge Farm

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Speaker 1: we're going to take the We're going to get these

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Speaker 1: We're going to tuck them away. We're going to save

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Speaker 1: could sell it on eBay later, they thought, before the invention, right. Well, also,

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Speaker 1: that's that was always my exposure to the two dollar bill.

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Speaker 1: and hiding it in an unusual place. That's all I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say. That's perfect. And in this case, we're going

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Speaker 1: to have to stop and count all of our two

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Speaker 1: four six eight. We want to give a special thanks

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Speaker 1: to everybody who helps this show exist. Mister Max Williams

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Speaker 1: our super producer. Max, what's your two dollar bill experience?

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Speaker 1: We ask you today? Oh? I love them the best?

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Speaker 1: All right, so Max is sketchy pro produce, maxis produce,

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Speaker 1: super producer producer it. Um, yeah, it wasn't really, but

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Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate the gesture. There is a guy, though,

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Speaker 1: to to continue with this extended wrap up, who is

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Speaker 1: pushing for more wide adoption of dollar bills. It's just

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Speaker 1: American Numismatic Society, a guy with the name of Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kraft that he describes this dollar bill very suc saftly. Thusly,

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Speaker 1: there is a degree of popularity to them, there is

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Speaker 1: a sense of excitement. But as far as putting them

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Speaker 1: he has a good argument about he has a good

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Speaker 1: argument about the cost to the treasury again and still

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Speaker 1: about half as expensive for the Treasury to print a

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Speaker 1: two dollar bill than it is for other denominations. And

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Speaker 1: now a two dollar bill isn't like you know, your mortgage,

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Speaker 1: you know, or like like like what is it a

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Speaker 1: I'm all about it, but we haven't really talked about

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Speaker 1: You know, cash is just becoming less and less popular.

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Speaker 1: There are places that actively don't accept cash, unless you're

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Speaker 1: world still cash in some version is king. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna restart an ending and thank mister Max Williams. Max,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I call I called you sketchy. I just

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Speaker 1: thought it was a fun bit. Do you do you

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Speaker 1: find yourself sketchy? Do you find yourself in a lot

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Speaker 1: of two dollar bill situations? I can neither confirm nor

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Speaker 1: deny that class. I have seen sketching in little notebooks

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Speaker 1: from time to time. I have seen you counting in

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Speaker 1: twos as well, So let's let's do our thank yous

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Speaker 1: and two's thanks to Jonathan strangling to aka the Quister.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to you, Noel Brown. Um, I guess collectively we

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Speaker 1: would be a three dollar bill. Yeah, I'll go with that. Hey, Well,

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Speaker 1: as an idea, we should we should fill out a

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Speaker 1: comment card and send it to the Treasury see if

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Speaker 1: they'll see if they'll go with our idea three dollar bills,

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Speaker 1: why not. We'll see you next time, folks. For more

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