WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2020 NFL MegaPod Week 16 Preview 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:12.639 Check it down Man Now down Man Tuesday morning, December 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:18.040 twenty is beating the book podcast megapod for Week six 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.920 D in the NFL. Cannot believe we're a week sixteed. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.840 It's Gill Alexander live from the d Our Home. All 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.040 year long, we have loved our time here at the 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.160 D and uh, today's a special day because not only, 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.040 of course, are the regular staples of the show on 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.720 Mike Palm, Derrek, Stephen's conciliary here at the D a 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:41.040 circus sports in general. How you doing, Mikey, Happy holidays 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.600 out there to everyone, whether it's Hanukah or Christmas or 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:50.239 Kansa or whatever they're China, whatever the celebrating. And then 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.120 what wo what a guest we have today? I mean, well, 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:57.800 let's let's just tot in here first quickly with his 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.280 mom's cork attic, with the circus sports background. You doing, totty? 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.319 My question is I heard Mike starting to wax romantic 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:10.400 and I thought his Brent on again, No, the Brent incident. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.880 Derek does have some comments about the great Trump tax 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:20.000 lookbacks that he's very vor alright, So so the guests 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.280 we have today, it really is special. He is the 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:23.959 owner of not only the Golden Gate and the d 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.720 where we broadcast from, but of course, uh the Shangri 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.760 Law that is circa Downtown Vegas and of course all 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.600 things circus sports. Derrick Stevens, everybody, I appreciate you doing this, man. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.040 Thank you so much. Gil. Thanks for letting me on 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.840 uh on this on this podcast. This is ter This 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.160 is my first time here. So I'm honest. Yes, you 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.400 finally reached the big time. There we go. I love it. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.200 I loved it. It took this long, uh, but we 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.440 finally reached the big time. Listen the first thing before 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.480 we get into all this stuff a week sixteen, because 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.040 we'll go through best bets of that kind of thing. Uh. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.200 I got knocked out a circus survivor this week with 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.440 the Rams. Our buddy Amal Shaw got knocked out last night. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.200 I thought he had the Titans, but he he told 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.000 me it was gonna take the Titans. He took the Steelers. Um, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.240 so we're out. There's fifty three left out of start things. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.120 But on behalf of everybody who has played this thing. 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.080 Those that are out like myself, for those that are 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.760 still in, thank you both so much for doing this 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:21.360 This contest has been more fun than any a T 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.280 S five picks a week thing. I know we do. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.480 You guys do the millions as well, which people love. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.519 But the strategizing of Survivor, which I know you knew 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.680 in advance, that's why you pushed it forward. Just a 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.560 big thank you man. It's been a blast, even though 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.800 it didn't work out in the end for us. Yeah, 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.440 you know, I've always loved Survivor. Have had had a 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.720 few good seasons and I've had had many more where 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.000 I'm lamenting something like a seventeen point favorite that went 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.760 down on Sunday. So the uh, the element of Survivor, 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.680 I thought was was was just something that I've enjoyed 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.800 so much over many, many decades. And uh, you know, 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.280 I just hope that everybody, you know, at some point, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.600 at some point you have to figure out how are 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.800 you going to cash? So I just hope that anybody 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.600 that really if you need it to Week fourteen, and 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.120 then certainly with fifteen, I certainly hope everyone had an 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.640 ability to cash in one one manner or the other. 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.400 And I think you know that this Week fifteen was 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.120 an opportunity because you had some big, big money line dogs, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.560 you know, Jets at plus nine forty going off before 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.040 kick and then yesterday you got plus seven forty or 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:27.240 seven fifty on uh On on Cincinnati. So I just hope. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.639 I hope people that made it through week fourteen, because 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.320 getting getting through week fourteen is very, very tough, had 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.400 the ability to at least at least get your money 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.200 back and maybe make a little bit of cash. Well, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.720 I will be honest with you, because people afterwards there's 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.680 two things about survivor kids. They when people who aren't 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.160 in or telling here's what you should pick. I was like, 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:43.640 am I in this? Or were you in this? Which 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.280 the other one is after the fact, people saying that 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.280 we're on Twitter like I hope you took the Jets 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.160 money line. I'll be honest with you, dare. I did 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.400 not take the Jets preflop money line because I was like, 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.840 there's no reason to, there's no chance. But when it 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.160 got to thirteen and nothing in game and it was 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.680 a coin flip at that point down thirteen, then I 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.520 was like, okay, I'll play. I'll take some Jets money 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.680 here coin flip and I was able to make my 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:09.000 outlay back um and and a little something more that much. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.320 I did, but I didn't do a prieflop. That's that's good. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.120 I mean, you have obviously a little bit of advantage 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:15.840 here being in Las Vegas, and you were able to 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.440 make that play. So not everyone is that that that 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.599 chance necessarily to do an end game, you know, but 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.599 but that's great, And I again, I just hope that everyone, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:28.000 everyone that made it to fifteen or week sixteen has 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.040 has the ability to say, Okay, I put a thousand 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:31.840 bucks out there and I cashed out, whether it's five 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.360 grand or ten grander or more. Because I just think 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.520 you get to that far, you don't have to win 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.680 Survivor to make money on the deal. You can still learn, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:41.920 can you can you just flashes up to the camera 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:43.880 because I just work for the video. This is those 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.760 of us who have played Survivor for years and years 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.400 and years do these grids. We don't have a staff. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.720 As Mikey pointed out off air, that that laminates it 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.720 enlarges it. But this is what it takes to sort 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.839 of plan Survivor. This is what Survivor winners do, and 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.240 even the best laid out plans like a mall like 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.920 I had, don't work. Out because there's a minefield still 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.320 to navigate. Yeah, that's where I think, you know, laying 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.240 out a nice grid, and you got to take a 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.400 look at you know, take a look at the games 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.400 earlier in the season. Which games do you really like? 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.640 You know, when you just take take simply like back 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.880 in August, like which games would you really want to 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.920 take Kansas City? And if if that's your highest ranked team, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.800 which team, which which game? Games would you like to 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.800 take Seattle on? You know, And there's certain teams you 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.720 might have a different field for, and everyone has their 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.640 own rankings. Some people feel certain teams are better at 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.440 home at night. You know. I'm one of those that 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.520 feels like New Orleans is better at home at night. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.520 I think Green Bays better home at night. Same thing 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.600 with Seattle. So you just try to try to put 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.680 the pieces of the puzzle together and then you kind 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.320 of work your way backwards and segue through. But then 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.920 as you as you just said, the best light planes 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.000 often get blown up by week three and then you 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.280 kind of start making it just with so okay, so 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.359 this is the real question. And when you and I 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.919 had before you ask questions, please just say one thing, Please, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.279 isn't it. Isn't it wonderful that a guy who starts 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:03.840 a sports betting themed casino knows something about sports betting. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.440 Let me just finish with Survivor. Then you can really 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.640 can release some more of your aggravation. You and I 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.520 spoke downstairs down by the coffee shops. I'm not sure 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.760 how much of that you want to talk about in detail, 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:16.960 but you are going to do this next year, Survivor, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.200 and you've got things up your sleeve, and you think 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.320 it will be bigger and better than ever. I would imagine, well, yeah, 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.479 we just haven't had a chance to, uh to get 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.480 in the back room with Jeff Benson and Matt Metcalf 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.080 and Chris Bennet and Mike and I and uh talk 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.320 through it. But uh but yeah, I mean I think 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.440 I think everyone's enjoyed it, and I'd certainly like to 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.280 grow this a little bit. Um, you know. The million 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.960 dollar bonuses is something like we were joking about and 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.360 follow the money that maybe I'm not that good in 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.760 math because I didn't really think I didn't really think 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.800 it was more than a fift she had. Somebody's going 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.120 to hit it. But that's the big thing, and you 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:52.920 know this from playing for all these years, no one 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.680 ever gets through. This was just a weird year where 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.839 there were three teams you could bully. The fact that 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.760 we have so many people have a shot at it 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:01.880 is such an anomaly. Next year, I think even if 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.080 you have five thousand entries, which you've may very well 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.240 clear easily. I don't want to, you know, set it 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.440 too high, but I think you may clear that easily 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.840 with the with the excitement of this one, the chances 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.480 of getting to the end are in a typical year 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.120 slim to none. I mean, this is totally an outlier. Yeah, 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:20.840 I mean compared to years past. I mean, like you 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.840 had said, you went against the Jets eight times. This 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.000 is my eighth and final shot at them. And that's 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.880 what's really unique about this. You know, you have the 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.360 Jets giving your laps, you had the Jacksonville, and then 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.640 you had since you know, you just had a few 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.960 of these situations where where it happened, and until week fifteen, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:43.440 you never had the big, big upset. I mean, yeah, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.840 you had a lot of sweats that came through, but 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.760 but to have a fourteen and a seventeen point favorite 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.680 go down in the same week that that's that's so unlikely. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.640 But usually you have a couple of couple of crazy 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.560 things happened from week four to week eight, you know, 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.400 and things like that, and it just never happened. The 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.200 sweats were unbelievable, though they said, oh my god, I 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.080 had to I had them against the Raiders too. I mean, 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.000 that was just one of the big moments that fourteen 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.200 and seventeen point dogs have never won out right in 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.760 the same weekend since ninety Yeah. And here's the thing. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.920 There was the two big upsets this year we're seven, 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.960 both a touchdown with Jacksonville beating the coltson Week one 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.560 as a touchdown dog and Dallas at Minneapolis as a 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.960 touchdown dog against and they both took out large chunks 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.480 of what was the field at that time, but nothing 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.880 over a touchdown. I am secretly hoping that Jacksonville and 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.240 the Jets lose out so I can therefore say forever 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.240 about this year and survivor. I had two entries, both 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.800 got knocked out by one and the fifteen teams that 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.640 would be I think there should be a prize for that. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.600 On sure, I feel particularly bad for the people that 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.360 had Pittsburgh last night in this sense. They probably had 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.240 planned to use them on Thanksgivings and the game got 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.000 moved and so they were left with them in this 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.120 spot against Cincinnati that looked like a lamp. I mean, 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.199 if you had the Jets and the Rams and Pittsburgh available, 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.559 I think you're taking Pittsburgh. I think it was much 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.120 I think it was much less likely that a finley 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.760 led team was gonna upset a team that's at the 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.959 top of their division. Then Darnel, who I mean, the 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.880 Jets have to they should have beaten the Raiders, right, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.079 I mean, I agree. I mean there were so many 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.320 of those Jets games that were sweats. Jets, the Jets 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.760 show up, the Jaguar show up, the Bengals. You could 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.199 have made an argument they were the worst team in 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.600 football headed into and uh and they get beat You're 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.920 right about the Pittsburgh Thanksgiving thing. Of all the people 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.600 that I feel sorry for, those guys, the ones that 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:27.319 planned Pittsburgh for Thanksgiving, they got the screw job of anybody. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.720 If anybody can sort of cry about it was them 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.120 with with me in the Rams, I said it on 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.960 a numbers game. Uh, there's no self loathing. There was 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.839 not a second, I was gonna pick anyone else. They 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.320 lost and that's the game. You just gotta take your lumps. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.080 Uh And the next week, next next year, are they 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.400 gonna do it so late in the season you'll have 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.959 to pick two teams so that it can win o 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.960 the field out more because I know in some survivor 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.480 pools when there's too many people left at the end, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.800 they make you know that that's something that's been brought 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.120 up a few times. Um, picking two at the end 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.160 of the year gets gets pretty pretty pretty difficult. One 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.000 thing that Mike and I got to talk through is, 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.120 you know, there's a potential schedule change in the works 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.160 here in the NFL, and if that happens, that's going 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.400 to clearly clearly impact our thought process. But if we 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:16.720 go to a seventeen game schedule with a double bye week, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.079 that means we go to a week nineteen. So if 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.160 that's the case, that kind of changes some of the 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.760 some of the math on what's going on. We love that, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.160 we love the Thanksgiving Day component, but if if this 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.160 schedule change happens, that means it would be you'd have 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.720 to go twenty and oh next week if this gets approved. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.800 But but it looks like this is the this is 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.640 the way it's going or nineteen, you know, next year, 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.839 because because it would be there, there would be uh, 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.880 there would be two bye weeks by weeks. Yeah, we're 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.440 still throw the Thanksgiving in that Really that really added 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.839 the wrinkle that it was the prayer. Like I said, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.040 I had everything planned before and after, but Thanksgiving? Now, 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:55.840 had you there was no way to know this. But 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.680 had you known that a third game would get canceled, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.360 you wouldn't have put in the Thanksgiving with just two games, right, No, 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:01.960 I think that would have been That would have been 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.800 a little a little crazy. I mean, you know, back 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.640 in back in the old days, you had you had one, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.600 he had one game. He had the Lions game, and 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.840 then what about forty years ago that we became Lions 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.000 Lions earlier and then the Cowboy game later and uh, now, 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.520 you the fact that you gives you a little bit 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.640 of pressure to save six teams really changes some of 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.840 the dynamic how you looked at things early. Yeah, that 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.800 that's the unfortunate thing. I mean, but there's so many 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.840 unfortunate things with schedules. So what can you do? Last 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.520 thing about this? Before we get to the to the 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.559 show itself. Uh, and we'll run through that millions. Are 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.160 you as fascinated by the race for Last Place as 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:39.840 I am. I love the Booby Prize absolutely absolutely, you know, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.600 and look at look at look at the numbers here. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.079 I mean it's just as difficult to to have an 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.400 inverse inverse. It's almost more incredible. Yeah, because the circuit 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.679 quarterlies didn't affect them either. They just plowed through those, right, 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.080 So it's incredible. I want to talk to that person. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.120 It's more intriguing than the top. Actually it is. And 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.640 we had that debate. Todd and I are lined on this. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.640 Todd and I think it's completely random, and I believe 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.720 you think not what Maybe it wasn't you, Maybe it 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.000 was our guest, Maybe was Chris las Vegas. Chris, he 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:10.959 thinks that I don't want to attribute to him. But 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.240 whoever the guest was that week. They're like, no, no, no, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.199 it's a skill, and I'm like, it's not a skill. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.600 They just managed to suck through it all because if 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.640 it was a skill, you'd go for the win, right. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.000 I think that you make a decision about week three 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.400 or four, after you've done poorly that now you're gonna 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.600 go for last. I think you have to make that 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.679 decision quarter least as hard. No, it's just just as 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.000 hard to pick. It's just as hard to pick the 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.840 losing teams as it is to pick the winning teams. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.439 Because if you can pick all losers, that means you 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.440 can pick all winners. Uh, thank you. If you start poorly, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.040 you have an advantage, except it's paying one instead of fifty, right, 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.720 I mean obviously that's the difference. Yeah, I'm with Todd. Todd, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.280 you're right. You know if you were let me ask 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.040 you this. It's if going into week uh, into week thirteen, Yes, 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.000 the start of this five week fourth quarter, you were 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.000 in tent the Booby Prize, would you try to do 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.280 well in the fourth quarter and win that quarterly? Oh? 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.120 I would. I would try to get the Booby Prize. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:12.199 But trying is different from that being a skill, like 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.960 I would try and then I'd be good just as randomly. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.240 I don't. I don't think you can try to. I 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.560 don't think anybody starts out saying I want to be 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.199 get the Booby Price. Now we get that, but what 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.640 we're saying is there's no specific skill to losing. Instead 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.520 of win, yes, because if there was, you would just 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.679 be awesome from the beginning. But Todd has that skill, right, 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:36.280 I mean because God, here we go, here we go. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.280 I have that's you know, that's right, especially because I'm 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.600 leading the teasers, and that's a nice little set up 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:49.960 for us to give the records in three other picks. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.840 You only care about It's like, you know, you only 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.160 care about the teasers. Gill only cared about survivor. That's right, 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.880 only care about trying to put the best phase forward. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:04.040 Here is need to twenty and three Mikey and three, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.560 and yes I had an O and three last week. Ouch, 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.200 I'm twenty and twenty four and one. I was going 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.920 to take the chiefs with you guys. But notice how 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.280 had we all taken the chiefs, we didn't end up losing, 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.400 but we still would not have all ended up winning. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.560 So that is hysterical that you just cannot win when 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.280 all three of us like the same ones. Now, as 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.640 far as the teasers go, Gil is at nine and six, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.400 Mikey is a ten and five, both excellent records, but 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.920 not elite like the Great one eleven and four on teasers. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.240 That's right, me, the Great One eleven and four on teasers. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.280 Thank you what you say? Your actual record was in 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.320 the A T S? What was it? My A T 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.560 S is poor and one. But everybody knows you shouldn't 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:47.240 be betting pregame NFL pits against the spread playing in game. Now. Look, 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.040 you'll learn that kind of thing on a show called 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.400 The Numbers Game. And I once knew a great casino 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.640 owner who said Wish Wednesdays on the Numbers Game was 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:59.240 the greatest radio program on the network. And you know, 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.280 I'm not gonna mention who that is. We all know 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.840 who it is, but whatever it is, Derek prefers his 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.800 jews in in plural. He just doesn't like one guy. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.600 He likes more than one. He said that Grievances was 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.800 the best segment on the network and he wished there 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.080 was a goyam version of it, and then and then 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:20.960 no hyperboll came. That's right version. All right, Let's start 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:26.040 with theam version and slightly less intelligent about as much intelligence. 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.480 Al right, we don't we don't have a Thursday game, 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.800 all right, And there's no need to parse out the 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.480 Friday or Saturday games. Let's just go through the whole schedule. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.560 We'll start with the best bets. Uh, Derek. We usually 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.560 start with the guests, so we'll start with you. You You 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.040 are the guest here. Um. I don't know how much 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.560 prep you've done for this, but I'm sure you're betting 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.560 these What are your what is your first best bet 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.280 of the weekend against the spread in the NFL this 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:52.080 year or total in this week in week? Well, the 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.880 one thing I like is I like the fact that 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.440 they changed the schedule a little bit. So so we 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.640 get four games at at at one, six, and four 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.160 and then still stink up the Sunday though, but yeah, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.920 four early, but but at least we're not buried buried 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.040 uh Um with this disproportionate type of type of deal 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.000 right now, there's there's you know, there's a there's an 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.160 element about about the Detroit Lions that I just I'm 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.160 just so against right now. So, um, if I had 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.040 to take one play right now, I think I would 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.280 go with with with Tampa Bay. Detroit defense is a 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:28.720 sieve and uh, you know you're you're firing your the 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.160 team's lost. You have a temporary coach, you have you 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.680 have an argument um within ownership of who's making the call. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.800 Um you know, they just brought in Chris Spielman to 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.480 to help as an adviser to the owner. Um, he's 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.720 probably one of the only only football guys in the organization. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.760 And uh, I think they had to do that because, um, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.200 you know, when after they fired Quinn and Patricia, the 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.280 first three g ms that the interviewed were all from 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.080 withinside the organization. And I think the whole city Detroit's go, no, no, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.360 we have to go outside. We have to go outside. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.520 So right now, if I had to take one bet 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.320 right now, it would be it would be the Bucks. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.119 What do you think of what do you think about 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.080 Solid being the front runner for the job just because 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.919 he's from the area. Yeah, he's a he's a dearborn 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.600 Fordson graduate. And uh, that's the west side of Detroit 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.920 and there's a lot of people, a lot of people 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.680 of pulling for him. Is the d for Derek or Detroit? Um? 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:30.120 Both both town and town? Yeah, throw that in there 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:38.960 in downtown and um, Pistons, red Wings, Uh, Lions, Tigers, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.560 How does your fandom rank? It's definitely Tigers is one. Oh, 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.520 I like it, Lions too, red Wings three and in 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:51.560 a far, far, far distant distant way back there is 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.720 the Pistons. I did love the Bad Boys. But but 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.040 I'll tell you what, the Pistons lost a lot when 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.960 they moved out of the Palace of Auburn Hills and 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:06.000 moved as the secondary tenant at Little Caesar's Arena, and 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.280 they lost the entire fan base. I mean, it's about 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.960 a fifty mile drive, and I think they lost se 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.280 the fans and there they since they moved in here 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.440 into the new arena, they're really struggling to get four 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.919 thousand people of game in Detroit. But you had to 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.600 love Isaiah and Bill Lamber at the time. I love 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.320 lamb Beer, I love Joe Dumars, Vinnie Jens, nobody. But 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:32.040 that's nobody's gonna say that he's not Phrasi's Chicago hitch 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:33.639 in the back of the head during a fight like 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.680 Joe Dumars. Joe Dumars and Bill Lambier were loved Isaiah. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.320 Let me ask you this, talking about the four sports, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.919 rank these four people as how beloved they are in 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.760 Michigan and specifically Detroit. Okay, you ready? Yeah? Boshem Beckler, 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:56.320 Scotty Bowman, Jim Lee Lynde, Jack Daly, Wow, good question, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.560 Like paulm you should have your own show. I would 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.240 tell you, like you could do a great show with 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.560 a guy from Pittsburgh. Would have been amazing. But you know, 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.400 I don't suggested it, Todd, I've suggested it. I would 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.160 tell you. I would tell you it's gonna be it's 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.200 gonna be two of those four. And depending upon your 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.920 your background, it's it's either gonna be Shechem, Beckler or Daily. Um. 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.639 Everybody loved Daddy Rich and uh he was something in 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:26.240 Detroit with Chuck Daly. Everybody loved, loved, uh Bo Sheen Beckler, 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.439 unless you're maybe a Michigan state person Leland. Leland was 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.320 beloved as well. And then it kind of goes through. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:36.800