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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: So I'm tying homeland security and to voter identification with

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Speaker 2: picture and proof of citizenship in order to vote. And

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Speaker 2: those two items are the most important thing having to

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Speaker 2: do with homeland security. So it's part it should be

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Speaker 2: part of the Homeland Security bill, and I'm requesting that

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Speaker 2: the Republican centators do that immediately. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: take a fast vote. Don't worry about Easter going home.

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Speaker 2: In fact, make this one for Jesus. Okay, make this

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Speaker 2: one for Jesus. That's what I tell him. That's would

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Speaker 2: be a damn good thing.

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Speaker 3: It is exponentially different here today than it was this

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Speaker 3: time yesterday over the weekend. As you can see, there

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Speaker 3: is a very short line right now. And it's unclear

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Speaker 3: if that's because ICE is now ASSISTTSA or if it's

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Speaker 3: just a slower travel day, but regardless, a remarkable change

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Speaker 3: from the hours long ways we've been seeing with line

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Speaker 3: stretching all the way around. Baggage play view is nice

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Speaker 3: in the airport.

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Speaker 4: A radio we're dealing really idea? Was it mine? That

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Speaker 4: was mine?

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Speaker 2: That was like the paper clip? You know that going

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Speaker 2: to the paper clip one hundred and eighty two years ago,

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Speaker 2: a man discovered the paper clip.

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Speaker 5: It was so simple and everybody.

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Speaker 2: That looked at it and say, why didn't I think

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Speaker 2: of that?

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Speaker 4: Ice?

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Speaker 6: Was my idea.

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Speaker 4: I called.

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Speaker 2: First person I called was Tom Holman.

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Speaker 7: I said, why do you think?

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Speaker 4: He said, I think it's great something.

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Speaker 8: Maybe a brilliant move this week. And he called me

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Speaker 8: and says, let's send ice in the airports. Also a smart move.

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Speaker 8: And we're filling the holes. The weight lines already dropped.

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Speaker 4: Hope.

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Speaker 8: We're doing a secureity of function at the air Force.

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Speaker 8: We're going to arrest criminals Vultus Airport. We're going to

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Speaker 8: look for human travel, the king, sex, trafficking.

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Speaker 4: Money, you know, money, smartling.

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Speaker 8: We're going to be the air Force working with our

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Speaker 8: brothers and sisters and t s A. They're are brothers

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Speaker 8: and sisterl and DHS. President Trump made a smart move.

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Speaker 8: We're going to keep the airplane flying. We're going to

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Speaker 8: get the American people through those lines quicker. And we're

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Speaker 8: not going to give up President Trump's promise to American

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Speaker 8: people to make this country safer every day.

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Speaker 4: And that's what we're going to keep doing.

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Speaker 9: When we see ar wrestler, the migrant arrest of the

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Speaker 9: airport's service arrest. Will we see ICE arresting legal migrants airport?

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Speaker 10: Are we talking?

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Speaker 2: That's why the democratsicanization, because they've allowed by what they

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Speaker 2: did and hold that.

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Speaker 11: We put ICE there a very high level I mean,

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Speaker 11: really are a high level group of people, and they

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Speaker 11: love it because they're in to now arrest illegal as they.

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Speaker 12: Come into the country that's very fertile territory.

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Speaker 4: But that's not.

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Speaker 10: Why they're there.

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Speaker 2: They're really there to help.

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Speaker 13: When you see ICE ass you know, being deployed, the

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Speaker 13: minds I like it.

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Speaker 4: I mean I like it.

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Speaker 13: Most of the travelers we spoke would say, well, it's disappointing.

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Speaker 13: The current shutdown is having a negative impact on TSA staff.

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Speaker 13: They're pleased to see ICE agents stepping in.

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Speaker 12: They're protecting us.

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Speaker 14: What's happening today in America that should outrage everybody. He's

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Speaker 14: taking the very same agency that has been bursting into

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Speaker 14: our schools, into our churches, into our hospitals, into our courts,

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Speaker 14: and even into.

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Speaker 1: The homes of Americans.

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Speaker 14: He's taking that agency that is recklessly out of control

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Speaker 14: and bringing them to our airports under the lie that

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Speaker 14: somehow this is going to help deal with the long

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Speaker 14: lines that he created in the first place. This is

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Speaker 14: an outrage.

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Speaker 9: This is what they've been doing for the most part

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Speaker 9: today is doing the patrols around the airport, talking and gathering,

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Speaker 9: not really helping the public in this out They're not

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Speaker 9: taking tickets from anybody. They're not interacting with the public

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Speaker 9: we've seen so far. They're not checking anyone's ID at

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Speaker 9: the TSA checkpoints. They're not doing that as well. To

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Speaker 9: the big question is what have they been doing? Mostly well,

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Speaker 9: has been providing for grim security. As you can see

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Speaker 9: over here, this is where the lines have been long

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Speaker 15: The reason why we are in a DHS shutdown right

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Speaker 15: now because Republicans have refused to agree to the type

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Speaker 15: of bold, transformative, meaningful, and dramatic reforms we are demanding

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Speaker 15: in order for the Department of Homeland Security funding bill

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Speaker 15: to move forward. One of those demands is keep ice

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Speaker 15: out of sensitive location, and we've defined that as schools,

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Speaker 15: houses of worship, hospitals, and polling sites. We want an

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Speaker 15: explicit prohibition that ice can go nowhere near any polling

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Speaker 15: sites in the United States of America.

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Speaker 16: Every day there's a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 16: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve.

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Speaker 4: If fear not, you found a place.

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Speaker 16: For truth, the voice of a generation that still has

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Speaker 16: the will to believe. In the greatest country in the

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Speaker 16: history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 16: Fuck a lot, here we go.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 1: March twenty fourth, twenty twenty six, here at the Bitcoin

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Speaker 1: dot Com studio. Blake, how you doing.

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Speaker 5: I was better a few minutes ago, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: And we will get into that in just a second.

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Speaker 1: So moments ago, a new report from journalist Michael Schellenberger dropped.

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Speaker 1: As you know, yesterday we covered the backstory, but what

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Speaker 1: really happened with the screen grabs, the notorious screen grabs?

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Speaker 1: Now and I revealed to this audience that I did,

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Speaker 1: in fact share that screen grab with Joe Kent, and

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Speaker 1: Joe suggested that I leak that publicly. I declined. He

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Speaker 1: actually went back through our messages and he suggested I

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Speaker 1: do so twice. I declined. Obviously, those were private messages.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to keep them private for Charlie's sake. I

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Speaker 1: thought that it was honoring my friend anyway. So this

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Speaker 1: new report comes out from Shellenberger and it says, as

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Speaker 1: you see on your screen, that Joe Kent says he's

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Speaker 1: willing to testify at the trial of Tyler Robinson. So

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Speaker 1: this is obviously a huge bombshell and escalates everything to

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Speaker 1: a much bigger level. I have reached out to Michael

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Speaker 1: Shellenberger and he has agreed to come on the show today.

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Speaker 1: He interviewed Joe Kent for this report. So these are

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Speaker 1: Joe Kent's own words. Michael Shellenberger will be joining us

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Speaker 1: at one thirty eastern, So set your clocks and please,

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Speaker 1: please please tune in. Then it's going to be an

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Speaker 1: important conversation. And Blake, let's just take this out and

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Speaker 1: explain why this is actually a really important thing. As

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of conspiracy theories that we

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Speaker 1: do not indulge, that we do not discuss. This is different.

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Speaker 1: Joe Kent was a government official at a very important post,

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Speaker 1: and now he's saying he's willing to testify ostensibly on

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Speaker 1: behalf of Tyler Robinson. Yes, this is a bigger deal.

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Speaker 1: This is a line cross that we have not seen.

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Speaker 17: Yes, I mean, let's just recite it where he says, Kent,

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Speaker 17: this is Schollenberger's reporting on subtect. Kent said he knew

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Speaker 17: he might be called as a witness before he made

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Speaker 17: his statements that a quote foreign nexus may have been

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Speaker 17: involved in Kirk's assassination. I was definitely warned of that

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Speaker 17: over and over again, said Kent. If I end up

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Speaker 17: having to play that role, then I'll do it. It's not

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Speaker 17: something I'm seeking. When pressed that his testimony could help

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Speaker 17: the Robinson defense, Kent said, then, honestly, so be it

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Speaker 17: gets us to the truth. That's obviously the risk I'm taking.

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Speaker 17: Neither Robinson's attorneys nor the prosecuting attorneys responded to request

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Speaker 17: for comment, and then looks, I'm not sure if there's more,

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Speaker 17: I might have to pay for Schollenberger's subscription.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I'm sure it does go further. And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna, like I said, be talking to Michael Schellenberger

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Speaker 1: in the second half of next hour at one point

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Speaker 1: thirty Eastern and I can't wait to hear what he

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Speaker 1: has to say. This to me is this is galaxy

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Speaker 1: brain run amuck. And let me explain while why I

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Speaker 1: say that Jonathan Turley, who is a I guess he's

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Speaker 1: a contributor to Fox News Legal contributor. He's a professor

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Speaker 1: of law at George Washington University, said that ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of the evidence accumulated against Tyler Robinson could be thrown out,

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Speaker 1: so the defense could be successful during that ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of the evidence and he would still be found guilty of.

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Speaker 5: Let's refresh, people. There is a murder weapon that was

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Speaker 5: found near the site of the shooting.

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Speaker 1: It was owned by Tyler Robinson's family grandpa.

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Speaker 5: Of the caliber used to shoot Charlie.

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Speaker 1: It has his DNA all over it, all over the

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Speaker 1: casings he They release.

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Speaker 17: A photo of the shooter. They are not able to

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Speaker 17: find him otherwise. Tyler Robinson's parents see that photo and

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Speaker 17: think that looks like Tyler. They begin asking him things

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Speaker 17: like where is your I believe it was his grandfather's gun.

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Speaker 17: They start asking him this. Tyler Robinson starts talking like

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Speaker 17: he might kill himself. They get a friend of the

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Speaker 17: family to sit down with him. He actually he admits

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Speaker 17: that it's him. They get him to drive up to

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Speaker 1: The digital confessions.

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Speaker 17: There's digital confessions. But also his parents are out there.

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Speaker 17: They have never stepped forward and said this is a lie.

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Speaker 17: They could easily do that, It would be trivial to

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Speaker 5: They have not done that. His parents turned him in.

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Speaker 5: That is the most.

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Speaker 17: Obvious piece of evidence in the world that nothing can

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Speaker 17: argue around. And some people are so obsessed with the

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Speaker 17: same conspiracies that they concoct for every other thing that

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Speaker 17: ever happens, and so they have to shove it into

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Speaker 17: this one too, because they care more about their conspiracy

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Speaker 17: theories than about the person who murdered my friend facing justice.

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Speaker 5: I am fed up with it, yeah, and you should be.

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Speaker 1: And this is I mean, this is a tough job

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Speaker 1: for us today, to be honest, because this is really personal.

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Speaker 1: I have been open to everything I think candidly. I

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Speaker 1: don't get enough credit for even the fact that I

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Speaker 1: shared these group chats in the first place. We shared

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Speaker 1: a lot of information about trans, about Charlie, how Charlie

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Speaker 1: was more concerned about than any other community about the

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Speaker 1: trans coming after him. You want to know the truth,

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Speaker 1: actually the truth. I heard over the course of the

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Speaker 1: last two years of Charlie's life, probably about fifty references

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Speaker 1: of how he knew that trans Transtifa was going to

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Speaker 1: come after him and he was worried about that. That's

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Speaker 1: the truth. Never mentioned one time about the Jews, Okay,

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Speaker 1: never once. And here's why it's so frustrating, is because

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Speaker 1: there is going to be even more evidence that is

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Speaker 1: presented to the public in May at the evidentiary hearing, okay,

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Speaker 1: And it's a mountain of evidence, some of which has

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Speaker 1: public yet, and the prosecution is going to lay out

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Speaker 1: its case against Tyler Robinson, and I'm told it's a whopper.

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Speaker 1: I'm told they've got this guy dead to rights. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: you have government officials that are now saying on the

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Speaker 1: off the hook for something that he did. And so

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Speaker 1: the level of betrayal that I currently feel is dramatic

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Speaker 1: and extreme. The level of just frustration, the idiocy that

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Speaker 5: That was probably are doing too. We probably have more

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Speaker 1: Probably had the keys to the to the sprinkler system

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Speaker 1: and we probably know that didn't happen. This is what's

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Speaker 1: got these inquiries like did you block their event? I'm

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Speaker 1: like no, but they would love for you to think

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Speaker 1: that we did. Okay, Like so it was. It was

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Speaker 1: kind of a nothing burger in the end, but nevertheless,

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna do GCU soon, which will be fun

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Speaker 1: here in the valley. So we'll keep you posted on that,

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Speaker 1: and as the clips come up, we'll maybe we'll show

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Speaker 18: eight ninety eight ninety eight. Today, welcome back to this

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Speaker 18: real America's Voice News Break. I'm Terrence Bates. The country

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Speaker 18: has a new Secretary of Homeland Security after the US

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Speaker 18: Senate confirmed Oklahoma Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen on Monday.

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Speaker 18: Mullen replaces Christy Nome as head of the agency. He

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Speaker 18: of course, also is going to be taking on a

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Speaker 4: In battle right now.

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Speaker 18: President Trump was in Memphis, Tennessee, on Monday as well,

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Speaker 18: talking about crime and punishment and other issues that Mark

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Speaker 18: Way Mullen will ultimately have to deal with. We of course,

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Speaker 18: While putting America first in Memphis, the Commander in chief

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Speaker 18: keeping an eye on the prize in Iran as well.

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Speaker 18: He says the current Islamic regime is ready to make

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Speaker 18: have more on that story as well. That's a quick

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Speaker 16: The voice of generations is that Charlie kirksh.

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Speaker 13: When you see ice agents, you know, being deployed.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 19: I mean Trump show holiday off, I like it.

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Speaker 13: Most of the travelers we spoke with say, well, it's disappointing.

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Speaker 13: The current shutdown is having a negative impact on t

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Speaker 7: They're pleased to see ice agents stepping it. They're protecting us.

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Speaker 1: Well. People love their ice agents at the airports. Lines

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Speaker 1: wait times are dropping like crazy.

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Speaker 17: And you know we have like the thin blue line,

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Speaker 17: the thin red line.

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Speaker 1: Is this like the thin security line, then cold line,

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Speaker 1: then ice light. Here to help us break this down

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Speaker 1: is none other than Borders are Tom Homan National Treasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir for joining us and making the time.

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Speaker 1: Uh what can you tell us about what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: ice agents at our airports?

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Speaker 4: I think President Trump made a brilliant move. He called me.

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Speaker 8: Late Saturday night and with this idea, and I liked it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, ice agents are being paid TSA art agents aren't.

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Speaker 4: Lines were back and up and.

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Speaker 8: This heightened security posture we're in right now because it's

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Speaker 8: going on in the world. We need to secure the

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Speaker 8: airports we need to secure the airways and we need

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Speaker 8: to get American people to those lines. I mean especially

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Speaker 8: now during spring break and Eastern and so forth. So

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Speaker 8: I thought it was a great idea, and so I've

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Speaker 8: worked very close with the ICE Director and the Acting

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Speaker 8: Administrator TSA. We put that plan together in less than

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Speaker 8: twenty four hours, and now we were sitting at about sixteen airports.

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Speaker 8: Now they'll be a few more added. It's just it's

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Speaker 8: going to constantly changing. But we're there filling jobs. That's

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Speaker 8: going to release more TSA agents to work right in

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Speaker 8: those security lines and especially the X ray machines and

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Speaker 8: you know the adminision and secondary security where they're very

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Speaker 8: well trained to do. We'll don't take people that are

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Speaker 8: doing other their security jobs, and we're going to fill

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Speaker 8: those gaps so they can release those highly trained TSA

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Speaker 8: officials to help with the lines, maybe open up more

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Speaker 8: lines because we have more people looking at the X

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Speaker 8: ray monitors.

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Speaker 4: So it's a.

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Speaker 8: Great idea, and I think the lines are going down quickly.

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Speaker 8: And I think President Trump not only made airports more secure,

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Speaker 8: more safe, he's moving the traveling public through quicker.

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Speaker 1: I love it well. I mean I put up a

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Speaker 1: few posts on X yesterday and they went viral because

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Speaker 1: everybody loves this idea, mister borders are, but it does

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Speaker 1: raise this other thing that's getting the Democrats all freaked out.

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Speaker 1: And we'll just have President Trump, in his own words,

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Speaker 1: describe it. Top three where we.

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Speaker 14: See arrestler legal margaret arrest of airport service arrest.

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Speaker 9: Well, we see ICE arresting legal migrants and airport.

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Speaker 2: That's why the Democrats reganization because they've allowed by what

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Speaker 2: they did and hold up.

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Speaker 11: We put ICE store a very high level I mean

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Speaker 11: really are a high level group of people, and they

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Speaker 11: love it because they're able to now arrest illegals as

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Speaker 11: they come into the country. That's very fertile turn But

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Speaker 11: that's not why they're there.

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Speaker 1: They're really there to help, all right, So it's very

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Speaker 1: fertile tear. I've thought about this a lot, mister borders

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Speaker 1: are that the airports are where so much of this

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Speaker 1: is happening, so it makes sense to have ICE agents there.

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Speaker 1: Explain how that will work. Will will they be processing

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Speaker 1: somebody through the security line and then they'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're actually an a legal immigrant and you're you're now

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Speaker 1: going to be removed from the country.

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Speaker 8: Well, look, you know, CBP and ICE have always had

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Speaker 8: a presence at the airports, not a big presence, because

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Speaker 8: we do a lot of human trafficking investigations, smuggling investigations,

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Speaker 8: bolt cash smuggling, so we have a presence there.

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Speaker 4: CBP also has a presence there.

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Speaker 8: Because they're the ones that screen everybody coming into the

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Speaker 8: country from mother from other nations. So but we're look,

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Speaker 8: our number one mission, as a president said, is support

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Speaker 8: TSA and moved those lines quicker and enhanced security. However,

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Speaker 8: the instructions I gave to ICE was they're going to

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Speaker 8: force imgrace law. Also, uh, they see criminal activity, they're

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Speaker 8: going to take action. There's a lot of people say,

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Speaker 8: well you should just help TSA with a security posture

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Speaker 8: and not enforcing or grace law. I can do that.

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Speaker 8: We're going to force them grace law. I'm not going

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Speaker 8: to ask any ICE officer to ignore the Opate took

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Speaker 8: an enforced immigration law so you will see immigration arrest.

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Speaker 8: So they they got two missions, one support TSA, two

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Speaker 8: enforced law.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think that makes all the sense in

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Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Well I'm just I first of all, I want to tout.

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Speaker 17: I was reading, actually, we were doing an a SU

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Speaker 17: event yesterday and I was studying up for it, and

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Speaker 17: I saw that the overall pace of ICE arrests per

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Speaker 5: So congratulations for that.

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Speaker 17: But the rational follow up, of course, is how much

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Speaker 17: will let's say, this airport strategy of the Democrats keeps going.

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Speaker 17: Is there a risk that this will significantly slow down

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Speaker 17: those arrests? Like could Democrats embrace this as a way

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Speaker 17: to hamper immigration enforcement by diverting so many agents.

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Speaker 8: Look, well, we're have an effect on arrest I have

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Speaker 8: a small effect on the rest, of course, because more

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Speaker 8: people call the field to the airport. But look, the

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Speaker 8: men and women with TSA, they're not being paid. This

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Speaker 8: is a third time in the past year they've suffered.

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Speaker 4: So you know, bottom line.

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Speaker 8: Is the Democrats up on the hill are punishing TSA,

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Speaker 8: Coast Guard, SISA, Cybersecurity, FEMA.

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Speaker 4: They're punishing these.

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Speaker 8: Employees by not paying them because they're mad about immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 8: And you know, bottom line is, I've been meeting on

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Speaker 8: the hill, you know, having discussions, but we're not going

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Speaker 8: to give up ICE authorities. We're not going to legislat

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Speaker 8: or codify changes in policy.

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Speaker 4: Because what I've explained.

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Speaker 8: From day one to people there are the negotiating table,

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Speaker 8: policy has not changed.

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Speaker 4: The same policy we're using now was there with Clanton,

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Speaker 4: Obama and Bush.

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Speaker 8: One and Bush two. I've been doing this a long time.

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Speaker 8: It's not about policy, it's about execution. And you know,

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Speaker 8: as I said, this all startup Minnesota, and I said,

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Speaker 8: look Minnesota and one other it wasn't perfect. There were

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Speaker 8: changes need to be made, and we made those changes.

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Speaker 8: Those changes are in place now. So I find it

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Speaker 8: shocking to any member of Congress, I don't care what

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Speaker 8: party you're in, does not want to open up the government,

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Speaker 8: does not want to fund the Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 8: that keeps this nation safe, especially again that's elevated threat posture.

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Speaker 8: Everybody in DHS should be working, working hard. So we

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Speaker 8: need to get the government back open. President wants the

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Speaker 8: government back coping, and we'll get it back coping. But

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Speaker 8: we're not going to surrender immigration authority. Happen and we're

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Speaker 8: not going to do that. That's not that's off the table,

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Speaker 8: mask off the table. I mean, we're going to do

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Speaker 8: our jobs and won't keep our officers safe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's that's good to hear the mass off

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Speaker 1: the table. We've got a clip here, it's too long.

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Speaker 1: Just Hakeem Jefferies though, says that we're not going to

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Speaker 1: fund DHS. Democrats are not going to fund DHS unless

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Speaker 1: Democrats are assured that ICE will not monitor polling places.

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Speaker 1: What's your reaction to that, sir?

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Speaker 8: Are you illegal aliens voting? I mean, bottom line is

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Speaker 8: what are they afraid of? And they say illegal aliens

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Speaker 8: don't vote? Well, look, you know part of this is

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Speaker 8: his job is secure elections. And I'm not going to say,

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Speaker 8: you know, you know what our plan is going forward,

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Speaker 8: but if only US citizens can vote, I don't see

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Speaker 8: the issue what they're concerned about. They ought to be

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Speaker 8: concerned about the safety and security this nation. And why

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Speaker 8: is the Department Homeland Security not funded? That's what they

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Speaker 8: need to explain. And look, they can get angry at

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Speaker 8: ICE all they want. You got to remember they set

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Speaker 8: the stage right, They baked this pie right. They four

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Speaker 8: years of open borders, four years of no immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 8: We had historic illegal migration on the southern border.

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Speaker 4: They knew it.

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Speaker 8: And the members of Congress stands silent, they're complicent. They

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Speaker 8: didn't do anything to Secretary Mari Orcas when he sat.

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Speaker 4: Under OULT to border secure. So they're to blame for this.

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Speaker 8: And what ICE is simply doing is responding to four

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Speaker 8: years of open borders and historic illegal migration on border

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Speaker 8: that brought mens upon manis of people to the border

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Speaker 8: in Released and United States. That requires a historic deportation operation.

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Speaker 8: It's just simple maths. So they got to remember, why

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Speaker 8: are we in this position? Why is ICE hiring more people?

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Speaker 8: Why was President Trump elected to be the President of

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Speaker 8: the United States and put in the Oval Office to

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Speaker 8: secure the border in fors immigration law.

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Speaker 4: That's what we're doing.

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Speaker 8: And they set the stage for the open word for

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Speaker 8: four years. They can't they can't forget that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amen to that.

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Speaker 20: Uh.

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Speaker 1: So you have a new as of yesterday, Senator Mark

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Speaker 1: Waynemullen is now Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen, DHS Secretary. What

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Speaker 1: do you expect?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Any changes during his tenure? Have you spoken directly with him?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: What? What can we expect as the American people?

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Speaker 8: I speak to Mark Wayne Mullen every day, sometimes several

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Speaker 8: times a day. Ever since President Trump announce them as

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Speaker 8: a nominee I'll be with him today.

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Speaker 4: When he gets sworn in.

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Speaker 8: I mean I said, I've said one hundred times since

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Speaker 8: he's been nominated. I think he's the right guy at

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Speaker 8: the right time and the right job. He understands our challenges.

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Speaker 8: He understands, you know, as a member of Congress, he

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Speaker 8: understands what upset, what's up, what Congress is upset about,

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Speaker 8: and well, what false they're pushing and and how we

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Speaker 8: can you know, work across the aisle and uh, I

696
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Speaker 8: think I think it's a game changer, and I'm looking

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Speaker 8: forward to working with him. And again, we have a

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Speaker 8: close relationship. And even though he wasn't a Secretary of yet,

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Speaker 8: I read him in on the operation and what we're

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Speaker 8: doing in the airport speak because I want him to

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Speaker 8: hit the ground running. And we, uh, my office and

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Speaker 8: and many others has offered him any resources he needed

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Speaker 8: to hit the ground running.

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Speaker 4: On day one, He's already started. I mean, he's already engaged.

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Speaker 8: He may not be the second, he might not be

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Speaker 8: sworn in, yet he's already being read in on things

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Speaker 8: he needs to be read in on.

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Speaker 4: So he hit the ground running the minute he's sworn in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's for people who are curious. There was only

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Speaker 1: one Republican that voted against that was rand Paul wasn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily surprise after.

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Speaker 5: It seems pretty personal.

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Speaker 1: Seems like there's some beef there. But then two Democrats

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Speaker 1: Fetterman and then a senator from New Mexico, I forget

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Speaker 1: his name, but.

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Speaker 8: I know not only that, but you know a lot

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Speaker 8: of Democrats I've talked to. I'm you know, a handful.

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Speaker 8: I know he's talked to many more. They want to

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Speaker 8: vote for him, but his election year, but I think

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Speaker 8: there's a lot more Democrats to support him that's known.

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Speaker 8: And look, he's going to prove to them. He's going

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Speaker 8: to prove to them he's the right guy. And I

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Speaker 8: think give him a few months, I think he's going

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Speaker 8: to press this country with his drive to maintain the

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Speaker 8: more secure board in the nation at the same time

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Speaker 8: and forced immigration long in a smart, effective way. And look,

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Speaker 8: FEMA needs some attention, you know, TSA needs attention, seecret

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Speaker 8: Service needs attention, all these things that he's gonna wrap

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Speaker 8: his arms around. And he's got a talented staff. Look

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Speaker 8: what Mark Wayne mull has told me, you got, you

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Speaker 8: got career officials at ICE been there for decades. You've

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Speaker 8: got career officials at CBP bore Patrol and been there

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Speaker 8: for decades.

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Speaker 4: He's won't count.

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Speaker 8: On these careers, career officials who've done this for decades

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Speaker 8: to do their job.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's a smart way to go about it.

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Speaker 8: Let the people who've done this for decades, who know Look,

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Speaker 8: for instance, I have a close relationship with him. I've

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Speaker 8: worked for six presidents and immigration. I've seen hundreds of

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Speaker 8: policies come and go. I know what worked, I know

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Speaker 8: what didn't. And the same thing with CBP and ICE

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Speaker 8: in these other age sees. Count on these career officials

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Speaker 8: who've been on both sides, who've seen, you know, successes

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Speaker 8: versus failures. Count on them and their knowledge, and it's

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Speaker 8: a winning game, winning formula.

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Speaker 1: Can I keep you for a few more minutes? I

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Speaker 1: mister borders, are I wanted to you were talking about

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Speaker 1: how Mark Wayne Mullan, Secretary of Mark Waynemullan can be

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Speaker 1: effective in this role, I said, and I defended you

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Speaker 1: publicly on this. What you did in Minneapolis was an

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Speaker 1: absolute masterstroke. You got cooperation at the local prisons and

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Speaker 1: the county jails. Explain what you did there and how

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Speaker 1: that can be a model of working with these blue jurisdictions,

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Speaker 1: these sanctuary cities across the country.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, we know.

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Speaker 8: That we have a problem of sanctuary cities because we

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Speaker 8: know they're released some public safety threats back into the community.

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Speaker 8: They were released some public safety threats back into the public,

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Speaker 8: which I think is just plain stupid. So when we

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Speaker 8: got to Minnesota, I met with the governor and the

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Speaker 8: attorney general and the mayor's about cooperation.

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Speaker 4: I explained, some more agents in the jail means less

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Speaker 4: agents in.

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Speaker 8: The street, because you know, we can arrest a criminal,

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Speaker 8: illegal alien and safety and security of the jail or,

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Speaker 8: safer for the alien, safer for the officer, safe for

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Speaker 8: the community. But when they release them to the street,

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Speaker 8: we got to send a whole team to go look

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Speaker 8: for him. Because officers saved the concerns and in Minneapolis

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Speaker 8: things you're out of control. So not only did we

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Speaker 8: send a team to go look to rest the bad guy.

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Speaker 8: Then we had to send an additional team as backup

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Speaker 8: because of the chaos that was going on in the

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Speaker 8: threat's concise officers.

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Speaker 4: So what one officer could have done in the jail or.

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Speaker 8: Two, Now we got fourteen to fifteen guys out there

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Speaker 8: in the street for that one guy. And when you

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Speaker 8: got you know, twenty different teams out, you're talking about

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Speaker 8: hundreds of people out the rest a few people. So

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Speaker 8: I explained, and I understand that that raises fear in

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Speaker 8: the community that you have a bunch of ice officers

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Speaker 8: out there and tactical gear the rest the bad guy.

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Speaker 8: I said, you want to want that that vision to

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Speaker 8: go away, then I send a damn jail, and you

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Speaker 8: know we got we got unprecedented cooperation.

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Speaker 4: So it was a win.

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Speaker 8: But we also got to remember that we're out there

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Speaker 8: enforcing immigration law. We got, as President Trump said, we

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Speaker 8: got to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats.

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Speaker 8: We got almost seven hundred thousand illegal aliens and criminals

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Speaker 8: are walking the streets of this country. We got to

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Speaker 8: get the worst first. And I think that smart way

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Speaker 8: of doing business is not less enforcement. It's smarter enforcement.

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Speaker 8: You got a criminal here, non criminal here, who are

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Speaker 8: going to rest first? Who's the biggest threat to our community?

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Speaker 8: Of course, not the criminal is. But as I said

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Speaker 8: in day one, if you're in the country legally, you're

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Speaker 8: not off the table.

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Speaker 4: We're going to find you're going to report you.

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Speaker 8: It's just a matter of smart enforcement, targeted enforcement. When

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Speaker 8: we leave the building every morning, we know who we're

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Speaker 8: going to look for. We know a lot about his

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Speaker 8: criminal history and his immigration history, pretty much got a

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Speaker 8: pretty idea where he lives, where he works, and that's

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Speaker 8: the way they do operations. Is safer for the agents,

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Speaker 8: safe for the communities, and that's.

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Speaker 4: Where we're going to go move forward.

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Speaker 8: As President Trump committed too in day one, prioritizing the

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Speaker 8: worst first again doesn't mean amnesty. Doesn't mean if you're

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Speaker 8: in the country or legally you didn't commit another crime,

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Speaker 8: you're off the table.

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Speaker 4: That's not what it means.

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Speaker 17: Smarter enforcement, Blake, I know we have an audience question,

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Speaker 17: Yes we have. I think I've told you about this

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Speaker 17: in private, Tom, but I wanted to get it on

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Speaker 17: the air. We have a viewer who emails us very often,

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Speaker 17: and he asks if you can say publicly to announce

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Speaker 17: to all of America confidently that any illegal aliens who

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Speaker 17: try to vote in the coming elections will be caught

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Speaker 17: and will be deported.

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Speaker 8: Do you after we prosecute him? I mean, it's a

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Speaker 8: crime to vote illegally United States, So we're going to

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Speaker 8: take us seriously. You want to go to prison, try it,

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Speaker 8: but after we prosecute you will be deported. Absolutely. Now,

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Speaker 8: the President has made that clear. And that's why. Look,

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Speaker 8: that's why Congress needs to pass Save America.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why.

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Speaker 8: Anybody wouldn't require identification to vote. I pick up tickets

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Speaker 8: that will call it, to go to sports van, I

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Speaker 8: got to show ID.

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Speaker 4: I go pick up my drag cleaning, I show ID.

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Speaker 8: So why would you want to show ID to take

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Speaker 8: advantage of the significant thing this country has, your ability

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Speaker 8: to vote for your next leader. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 8: a sacred it's a sacred ability, and we ought to

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Speaker 8: keep rules wrapped around it. If you're not a citizen,

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Speaker 8: don't vote. If you do vote, we're coming for you.

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Speaker 1: How does that work? When you prosecute an illegal alien

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Speaker 1: that has attempted to vote, do we throw them in prison?

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Speaker 1: Or do we deport them once they're convicted.

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Speaker 8: No, they're going to do a prison time first. Then

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Speaker 8: we'll be waiting out the door and he gets released

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Speaker 8: and we'll send them home.

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Speaker 1: Got it. Yeah. I'm going to play a clip here

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Speaker 1: from Gavin Newsom and I'll have you respond quickly.

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Speaker 5: Here at tot six, it's self evident.

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Speaker 21: It's a self optimate advice.

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Speaker 22: For you to say, whint it back to its Ice

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Speaker 22: and then conditions that.

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Speaker 16: Have been perpetuating on the streets of America of what often.

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Speaker 17: Is described as a secret police that.

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Speaker 21: Took an over office, not to the Constitution would take

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Speaker 21: them from.

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Speaker 4: The whole thing is rather worse.

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Speaker 21: And I don't know how it ends.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 21: I'm not suggesting he's got badly.

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Speaker 8: I just say I don't know the behavior of this

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Speaker 8: administration to negotiate an agreement with Democrats to address the

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Speaker 8: vice of.

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Speaker 16: Joy the Americans concerning about how ICE is currently being

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Speaker 16: deployed and utilized.

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Speaker 21: I just wish the president would take responsibility.

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Speaker 1: So this is him playing off a narrative from the

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Speaker 1: left where somehow Ice agents at airports or whatever, this

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Speaker 1: is the secret police they're gonna There were some senators

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Speaker 1: that were saying they were going to shoot people in

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Speaker 1: the in the airports. So we end where we begin.

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Speaker 1: Tom Your reaction to this narrative that they're trying to build.

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Speaker 8: The same people who push this negative narrative against ice

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Speaker 8: agents are the same ones that want to take the

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Speaker 8: masks off.

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Speaker 4: They are reason we're wearing a mask.

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Speaker 8: Their haypo ritic is convinced that small percentage of people

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Speaker 8: who are already nuts to you know, violent axcan s

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Speaker 8: ice officers. So you know, if they're hyperoretic doesn't decrease,

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Speaker 8: direct will continue to rise, assaults will continued to rise.

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Speaker 8: But are officerly a great danger and it gives us

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Speaker 8: more reason to try to protect themselves in their families.

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Speaker 4: So you know, and I'll say this.

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Speaker 8: Democrat members of can argue and complain all they want

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Speaker 8: were enforcing laws they enacted. If they don't like it,

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Speaker 8: change the law. If they want to cross Nazis for

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Speaker 8: enforcing the law that they wrote, what's that make them?

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Speaker 4: They created the law. So we're going to keep enforcing.

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Speaker 8: Laws as as mandated by Congress that's appropriated funding to

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Speaker 8: do this. That's exactly what we're going to do. The

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Speaker 8: American people have spoken, they put Donald Trump in the

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Speaker 8: old Office to enforce immigrace law and security border. We

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Speaker 8: have the most secure border in the history of this nation,

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Speaker 8: and we're doing record numbered rest deportations and it's not

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Speaker 8: going to stop.

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Speaker 1: And Mark Waynemullen is the new Secretary of DHS. Commas

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Speaker 1: not dramas. I believe that that is our future. Let's

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Speaker 1: wrap this man in bubble wrap. National Hero and Treasure

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Speaker 1: Borders are tom home and thank you, sir. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you soon.

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Speaker 19: We'll be back in our team.

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Speaker 18: Welcome to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 18: Tax season is starting to wind down, with tax Day

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Speaker 18: being less than a month away. Don't put off handling

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Speaker 18: any business that you may have with the I R

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Speaker 18: rest though, if you happen to owe, that debt isn't

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Speaker 18: going anywhere. It's only going to compound. Cameron Kensey from

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Speaker 18: Tax Network usay here to discuss some options you might

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Speaker 18: want to consider.

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Speaker 4: Cameron, Good morning.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Thank you for having me. Terence, good to see.

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Speaker 5: You, always good to see you.

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Speaker 18: So let's just get straight to the cut, straight to

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Speaker 18: the chase. What if someone truly can't afford to pay

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Speaker 18: their taxes, What options do they have? How can Tax

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Speaker 18: Network usay help out?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 23: I think a lot of Americans are in this position

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Speaker 23: right now, Terrence. And the worst thing that somebody could

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Speaker 23: do if they're watching right now is.

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Speaker 7: Panic or ignore it completely.

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Speaker 23: The good news is the IRS does have programs in

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Speaker 23: place for people who can genuinely not afford it. But

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Speaker 23: that can look like installment agreements where you pay over

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Speaker 23: time currently not collectible status where collections are temporarily paused,

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Speaker 23: or in some cases, offers and compromise where debt can

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Speaker 23: be reduced.

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Speaker 7: But here is the thing. Those are not automatic.

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Speaker 23: They're based on your full financial picture and how your

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Speaker 23: situation is.

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Speaker 7: Presented to them.

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Speaker 23: And that is why it is so important to have

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Speaker 23: professionals like Tax Network USA in your corner, because one

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Speaker 23: misstep or one missing document could potentially cost you thousands.

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Speaker 18: There's some people who are listening to this and currently

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Speaker 18: owe the IRS from last year, and they're trying to

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Speaker 18: put off to the very end how to file again

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Speaker 18: because the expectation is that they'll owe again. So now

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Speaker 18: you owe on top of owing, how do you deal

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Speaker 18: with that?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, we hear about this situation all the time, and

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Speaker 23: this is where that situation becomes significantly more urgent. When

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Speaker 23: you have multiple years of tax st stacking up, the

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Speaker 23: IRS starts to look at it as a pattern of

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Speaker 23: non compliance, and once that happens, they're much likely to

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Speaker 23: escalate collections like leans levees, wage garnishment. It also weakens

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Speaker 23: your negotiation position because it just shows ongoing issues rather

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Speaker 23: than a one time hardship. So at that point, it's

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Speaker 23: not just about resolving your debt, it's about protecting yourself.

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Speaker 7: And so that's why bringing on a qualified.

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Speaker 23: Tax attorney or a firm like tax Network USA becomes

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Speaker 23: critical because you need not only a strategy, or not

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Speaker 23: just a payment plan, but a strategy in place as well.

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Speaker 7: Moving forward with this, how.

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Speaker 18: Does one start a relationship or at least start the

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Speaker 18: contact with tax Network USA.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's very easy.

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Speaker 23: You can go to one eight hundred nine zero five

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Speaker 23: eight thousand, talk to one of our team members directly.

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Speaker 23: Don't be too embarrassed either. We get so many people

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Speaker 23: who are too embarrassed or they're panic. They've stuffed these

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Speaker 23: letters in a drawer hoping that this is going away,

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Speaker 23: or just not taking action because they think that we

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Speaker 23: haven't seen it before, but we have. If you call

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Speaker 23: one of our team members today on the phone, or

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Speaker 23: you can actually fill out a form online TNUSA dot

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Speaker 23: com slash rab again, that's TNUSA dot com slash rab.

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Speaker 23: You can fill out a quick form as well and

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Speaker 23: somebody will get in touch with you.

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Speaker 6: You use the term tax attorney.

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Speaker 18: Are most of your staff members tax attorneys or do

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Speaker 18: you at least have tax attorneys on staff who really

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Speaker 18: know the ins and out of the tax code as

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Speaker 18: well as dealing with the IRS.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's such a great question, Terrence.

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Speaker 23: So we have tax attorneys CPAs, We even have former

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Speaker 23: IRS agents who really just know the tax code inside

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Speaker 23: and out.

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Speaker 7: Tax Network USA basically.

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Speaker 23: Acts as a liaison between you and the IRS, so

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Speaker 23: you're not having to deal with those daily calls, You're

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Speaker 23: not having to be put on hold while you're trying

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Speaker 23: to eat dinner with your family.

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Speaker 7: It really just alleviates that burden.

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Speaker 23: The average American, including myself, doesn't know the tax code

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Speaker 23: inside and out, doesn't know the loopholes or the correct

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Speaker 23: strategies in place to help you navigate this a really

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Speaker 23: stressful situation.

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Speaker 7: So that's why it's.

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Speaker 23: So important to have people who specialize this at least

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Speaker 23: call at least see what your options can be. We

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Speaker 23: do the free discovery call all the way up until

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Speaker 23: that tax date, so we can dig into your financial

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Speaker 23: picture a little bit better to see what you're going.

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Speaker 18: Through and in twenty seconds. It's not just for individual fileers.

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Speaker 18: Businesses can benefit here as well.

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Speaker 23: Yes, and that's the thing, Terrence, is it is very

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Speaker 23: serious for business owners who owe this year because that's

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Speaker 23: where things.

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Speaker 7: Can spiral the fastest.

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Speaker 23: We've got payroll taxes are not treated like normal tax debt,

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Speaker 23: and if those are not paid, the IRS can really

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Speaker 23: hit business owners with what's called the Trust Fund recovery penalty,

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Speaker 23: which is one hundred percent of the unpaid payroll taxes.

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Speaker 7: So get ahead of it. Call one of our team

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Speaker 7: members directly and we'll take care of you.

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Speaker 18: Cameron Kinsey, always good to see you. Thank you so

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Speaker 18: much for being with us once again. Folks, the information

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Speaker 18: that you need is right there at the bottom of

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Speaker 18: your screen.

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Speaker 4: Log on and give them a call.

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Speaker 6: And at least start the process.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back. Hour two of the Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: Show is underway, and we've done a little chair swap.

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Speaker 1: Blake is now to my left because we have to.

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Speaker 17: The obvious in real life, they're in politics to your right. No, no,

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Speaker 17: I'm definitely to your right.

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Speaker 1: You're like to my right on like corporal punishment, which

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Speaker 1: is an important thing to be to someone's I mean

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Speaker 1: that's one thing I think I'm to your right on immigration.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go without further ado. We have Addison,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kurt, and Danielle cosetto. Danielle is the ASU chapter chair.

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Speaker 1: She runs their Social Right, their Social kind, the X account,

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Speaker 1: all the stuff. And Addison is the SU chapter vice president.

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Speaker 1: So welcome, Welcome to the Charlie kirkshow.

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Speaker 12: Thank you for hoving us.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the real most important question is who

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Speaker 1: did better yesterday? Jack Pasoviac or Blake Neff.

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Speaker 17: Jack, Oh, I just turn around so that you can

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Speaker 17: stab me in the past.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jack is not here. You had an easy layup.

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Speaker 1: But that's fine. I appreciate the candor.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so tell us what was it like kind

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Speaker 1: of getting back into the event world, pick up the mic,

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Speaker 1: having it on your chapter yesterday?

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Speaker 24: Oh, it was awesome.

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Speaker 22: We it was very expedited, so it was fun to

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Speaker 22: see all of the hard work put into it, and

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Speaker 22: it was definitely hard to fly her and get an

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Speaker 22: advertised but I think we had a good turnout and

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Speaker 22: it was really great having Blake and Jack, So it

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Speaker 22: was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an important like muscle memory for chapters to have,

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Speaker 1: is like get out and fly or get out and

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Speaker 1: do the things table announce the event was What was

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Speaker 1: the reaction from students.

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Speaker 10: I think it was well received, and I think students

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Speaker 10: appreciated the fact that they could go up to the

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Speaker 10: mic and you know, if they disagreed, that's okay, being

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Speaker 10: able to hear both sides of the conversation, which is

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Speaker 10: I think the number one thing that Charlie prioritized.

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Speaker 1: M hmm. Yeah. So what has it been like in

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of when we lost Charlie. What's it been

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Speaker 1: like for your chapter?

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Speaker 22: The chapter has grown exponentially, it's been so there's light

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Speaker 22: at the end of the tunnel of silver lining. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: silver lining that everything. It's been awesome seeing everyone who

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Speaker 22: didn't necessarily think that they wanted to get involved in

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Speaker 22: politics until obviously seeing how important it is to be

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Speaker 22: involved politically and talking to your peers, getting involved on

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Speaker 22: campus because they didn't see that before. They didn't think

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Speaker 22: they needed the part to a part of turning point

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Speaker 22: because they were just like, oh, like, it'll go how

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Speaker 22: it goes. But now they actually see a reason to,

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Speaker 22: you know, step up and make their opinions.

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Speaker 1: Heard same question to you.

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Speaker 10: When Charlie died. I think it really just put a

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Speaker 10: spark under our butts.

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Speaker 12: I know I got involved.

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Speaker 10: A turning point after Charlie was assassinated. Yeah, and just

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Speaker 10: seeing how people have come together after that, it just

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Speaker 10: makes our voices stronger.

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Speaker 1: Blake, I have lots of questions, but you know you're

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Speaker 1: the one who went and spent time with them.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I suppose.

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Speaker 17: I suppose it's do you see any what do they

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Speaker 17: in the wake of Charlie's loss? Is there something that

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Speaker 17: particularly appeals to him about his legacy? Do you see

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Speaker 17: them leaning more towards the faith side of things maybe

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Speaker 17: than the past, or do they see him as a

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Speaker 17: guy to look towards in terms of debate, argument politics?

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Speaker 5: Just I don't know.

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Speaker 17: I'm trying to think of how young people look to

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Speaker 17: Charlie now that he's no longer with us.

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Speaker 10: Speak for myself, and I think that my thoughts on

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00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 10: activism have certainly come up. It makes me just want

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Speaker 10: to get more involved with knocking on doors, getting people

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Speaker 10: to sign up for being a PC, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 10: And I think maybe for more people on ASU just

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Speaker 10: it sparks us to have even more open debates hearing

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Speaker 10: clearly what the other side has to say.

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Speaker 24: I think he remains controversial, definitely.

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Speaker 22: People who are part of the Trapter obviously see him

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Speaker 22: as a great debater, and it doesn't matter what they

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Speaker 22: thought of him before. They still appreciate what he's done

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Speaker 22: for the youth and making our voices heard, unlike the

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Speaker 22: liberal side of things. They they don't like him still,

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Speaker 22: I don't think they hate him as much to the

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Speaker 22: extent that maybe they did before, because they see that.

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Speaker 4: You do you run.

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Speaker 17: It has to be as do you run into people?

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Speaker 17: Will let people ever ridicule you about Charlie being dead?

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Speaker 5: What will they do?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they don't stop.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, they say like crazy things and they don't have

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Speaker 22: a conversation with us. Yes, when we're tabling, they'll walk

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Speaker 22: past us and say something diabolical and it's very rude.

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Speaker 17: I heard last night that apparently someone showed up at

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Speaker 17: a meeting at I think when Erica showed up at

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Speaker 17: the chapter and they made some sort of joke about

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Speaker 17: Charlie being dead or something.

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Speaker 24: And oh, oh, well, he got put in his place.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 22: I don't think he meant any mal intent with that comment.

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Speaker 22: He didn't know Erica was there. I'm sure he would

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00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 22: have held his tongue a little bit more. I hope

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Speaker 22: if he knew, because he's a great guy. He was

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Speaker 22: just trying to be funny.

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Speaker 1: Oh dear, oh, that's not a funny thing to joke.

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Speaker 1: And that's, by the way, that's what I told the

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Speaker 1: the whatever, the progressive group that's trying to troll and

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00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: draft off turning point. I just said, don't don't disrespect

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Speaker 1: my dead friend, and don't don't post pictures on social media.

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Speaker 1: It's not cool. It's not funny.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what Trump says, like, yeah, okay, he

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Speaker 1: didn't he They made this whole point about Bob Mueller

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Speaker 1: and who's the other guy, the the actor Rob Reiner,

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, so, what if you don't

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00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: like it when he does it? Why are you doing

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00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: a test?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 1: Why are you doing that to Charlie anyway, So I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the issues. We've only

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Speaker 1: got two and a half minutes in this segment. We

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Speaker 1: have a whole other segment Iran. What are even Trump

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Speaker 1: supporting students? Students, you know, voted for Trump. What are

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Speaker 1: they feeling about the Iran War?

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Speaker 10: I think that mostly they're saying, you know, Trump said

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Speaker 10: no new wars, now we're in a war, talking about

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Speaker 10: prices going up, especially gas. I don't know if you

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Speaker 10: want to add on that.

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Speaker 5: Addie, wait a minute, just didn't say, is he's still driver?

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Speaker 24: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, you guys are living large. I didn't have

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Speaker 5: a car in college.

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Speaker 12: I don't either.

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Speaker 24: They're mixed.

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Speaker 22: People who voted for Trump are either in support of

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Speaker 22: him or they're totally against it, because, like Danny said,

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Speaker 22: no new wars one of the primary reasons, at least

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Speaker 22: I voted for him, and a lot of the people

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Speaker 22: and the chapter voted for him, and we don't want

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Speaker 22: to lose American lives.

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Speaker 1: And does this change your opinion of the president.

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Speaker 22: My opinion of the president hasn't really changed all that much.

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Speaker 22: I obviously am not in full support for everything that

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Speaker 22: he does, and I didn't want any new wars. I

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Speaker 22: don't think interference in the Middle East is in America's

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Speaker 22: best interests.

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Speaker 24: So they're the same.

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Speaker 1: So you still support the president, but you don't support

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Speaker 1: this particular war.

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Speaker 12: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So when you hear people talking about they've been

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Speaker 1: a threat to the United States for forty seven years,

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Speaker 1: the nuclear threat, they what was that island, the Diego.

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Speaker 5: Diego Garcia Island.

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Speaker 1: When you see that they actually have the ability to

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Speaker 1: shoot missiles extraordinarily far, but I think that was like

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Speaker 1: two thousand miles away. Does does any of that change

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Speaker 1: the way you think about is Are's still just like, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's thousands of miles away. We want to be nation

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Speaker 1: built here at home.

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Speaker 22: Well, like you said, they we've been saying Iran has

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Speaker 22: been building a nuke for forty seven years and they

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Speaker 22: just don't have one.

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Speaker 24: So sure, I don't really see them.

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Speaker 1: When you see Jared Kushner and Steve Whitcoff say we

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Speaker 1: sat with them and they said they have enough nuclear

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Speaker 1: material to build eleven nukes. That those kind of things

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Speaker 1: don't change your calculus. I'm not giving I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to tell you right or wrong. I'm just wondering I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to get inside your psyche, like what works, what

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Speaker 1: is persuasive, what's not well.

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Speaker 22: I think the military in the Operation Epic Fury, they've

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Speaker 22: been targeting those facilities and they have hit them. We've

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Speaker 22: decimated their nuclear capacity from what I have seen.

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Speaker 12: Can I just add something I actually disagree.

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Speaker 10: I think that they're a threat to our national security,

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Speaker 10: and I think that what Trump is doing is a

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Speaker 10: broader part of trying to limit long term threats.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Yeah, and we'll keep going. Maybe we'll even

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Speaker 1: this broader. What are would you say are the main

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Speaker 1: issues that students are talking about when it comes to

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Speaker 1: politics right now?

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Speaker 22: Immigration, for sure, that's definitely split up right now. I

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Speaker 22: would say the Conservatives are for more mass deportations and

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Speaker 22: liberals are more for you know, aiding them and helping

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Speaker 22: them and since they help out our economy, oh they

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Speaker 22: should stay here.

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Speaker 24: Is definitely an issue.

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Speaker 22: And then again, affordability prices are skyrocketed, wages are low,

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Speaker 22: so that's.

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Speaker 10: Exactly what I was going to say immigration too, immigration

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Speaker 10: and affordability.

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Speaker 1: So obviously the Turning Point chapter wants more of a

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Speaker 1: hardline immigration approach. But what about the larger student body.

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Speaker 10: I think at ASU I conducted interviews regarding ICE. We

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Speaker 10: had a bunch of ICE protests on campus. When was

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Speaker 10: that like a month ago maybe, And it was an

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Speaker 10: overwhelming response of f ICE, get them off of our campus,

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Speaker 10: get them out of America, you know, like nobody's you know,

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Speaker 10: like on stolen Land, you know kind.

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Speaker 1: Of stuff, nobody's illegal.

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Speaker 10: Yeah and yeah, I mean we conducted maybe twenty interviews

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Speaker 10: that day and I think we only got two people

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Speaker 10: that were pro ICE, So that was really eye opening.

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Speaker 1: So maybe them helping with the TSA lines is this

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Speaker 1: huge new PR blitz where they're going.

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Speaker 5: To I mean, I'd love to believe that. My guess

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Speaker 5: is you actually probably just need to steamroll this sentiment,

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Speaker 5: is my guess.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 17: Well, Like, I don't think the kind of person who

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Speaker 17: thinks ICE is a fascist paramilitary because they enforce our

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Speaker 17: laws are going to be won over by TSA line.

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Speaker 17: I think they have they have just kind of have

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Speaker 17: a virus in their brain, especially if they're also falling

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Speaker 17: for Oh, like the US is on stolen land, land

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Speaker 17: back these people they just want to destroy America.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, unfortunately a very tempting attitude.

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Speaker 1: So what about jobs? When we talk about immigration H

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Speaker 1: one B. There was some students we'd had on that

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Speaker 1: were super focused on H one B. Do you guys

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Speaker 1: talk about H one B are stealing college grads jobs

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Speaker 1: here and there?

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Speaker 22: It's definitely there's way too many H one B visas

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Speaker 22: going out that should be going to American citizens. First, However,

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Speaker 22: that's not very topic of mine.

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Speaker 1: What about jobs in general? The AI revolution?

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Speaker 24: I did so.

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Speaker 22: One of Jack's talking points was in the agricultural sector

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Speaker 22: which immigrants work in, replacing them with AI when they're

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Speaker 22: deported because the wages are.

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Speaker 1: So low, like robotics and things.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, mechanization, things like that. I totally disagree with that.

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Speaker 22: I do think it should be going to Americans, even

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Speaker 22: if that means corporations and forums have to raise their

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Speaker 22: wages to incentivize.

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Speaker 1: I think automation is probably coming one way, but maybe

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Speaker 1: there's some Yeah, I agree with you. In general, if

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Speaker 1: there's jobs that need to be done, give those two

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Speaker 1: Americans too. Absolutely, Yeah, go ahead Blake. Okay, So what

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Speaker 1: are the big topics. Maybe they're related to politics, maybe

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Speaker 1: they're not that are top of mind, or the cultural musical.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's dating relationships, maybe it's apps. What are people

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Speaker 1: What are kids talking about on college campus right now?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think because we're in the political part of campus,

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Speaker 22: we interact with a lot of political people. Politics is

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Speaker 22: obviously one. Donald Trump is a huge one. No one

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Speaker 22: likes him, his executive cabinet, they are all questioning him.

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Speaker 22: Maybe social media as well, that's a big topic, just

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Speaker 22: like the dating market.

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Speaker 24: They don't like it.

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Speaker 5: Looks Maxing, Yeah, looks Maxing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that actually as well.

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Speaker 17: Say a SU has that guy? A s U frat

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Speaker 17: leader is some character on the internet. Now is that

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Speaker 17: an actual student at a s.

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Speaker 24: U or it's not. He's not.

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Speaker 22: He doesn't even.

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Speaker 1: Go to a of course he doesn't. He's he's too busy.

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Speaker 1: Like breaking micro fact fraction, you're thinking.

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Speaker 5: Now you're thinking of a different you're thinking of clivocular.

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Speaker 5: Why do you know this because you had to do

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Speaker 5: it for the show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we're educating our audience.

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Speaker 5: We need to know the important issues.

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Speaker 1: So do women in general. Because you two are women.

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Speaker 1: If there was a guy here, I'd ask them the

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Speaker 1: same question reverse, But do women when you're thinking about

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Speaker 1: dating young men? Is it bleak out there? Is it

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Speaker 1: hard to date? Are you guys happy with your choices at.

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Speaker 12: A su it's looking pretty dim?

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Speaker 1: Oh. I feel like a lot of women say that

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Speaker 1: about their their local community.

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Speaker 24: So I think the guys are great.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we have a difference of opinion here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well what's your beef? What's your your.

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Speaker 10: I think that they're too focused on lust over love.

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Speaker 10: And also I'm young. I'm eighteen. I don't know, like,

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Speaker 10: I just want Tokay.

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Speaker 1: So you're like a freshman, then I am a freshman.

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Speaker 12: I just want to do my own thing. I don't

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Speaker 12: want to you know what I mean. I don't need

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Speaker 12: a date right now.

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Speaker 1: You're eighteen, you're totally right right approach.

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Speaker 4: What you are?

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Speaker 24: You sophomore. I'm nineteen, okay.

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Speaker 1: And you think you're you have no.

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Speaker 22: Issues being surrounded with conservative boys like for most of

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Speaker 22: my week. Yeah, they're great, and there's good people in

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Speaker 22: the world. And sure social media can portray these guys

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Speaker 22: as lust full of creatures. Will innately they are. I

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Speaker 22: think there's more good people.

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Speaker 24: In the dating.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like young men are taking their faith

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Speaker 1: seriously about at least the conservative guys. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: was that NBC poll that pulled all the men and

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Speaker 1: the women, and it was actually the men they wanted

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Speaker 1: to get married, have families like that was their top priorities,

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Speaker 1: and it was the women that put that way down

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the list. They wanted their careers,

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Speaker 1: wanted to be boss babes. Do you see that the

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Speaker 1: boss babe thing, the career drive is that's still top

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Speaker 1: of the list for women?

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Speaker 24: You think, Oh, definitely.

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Speaker 22: It may be dilated because of what I view on

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Speaker 22: social media, but there are some serious men haters and

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Speaker 22: they're definitely doing the right thing, getting a career, going

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Speaker 22: to school. But there's a balance that we have to

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Speaker 22: achieve with that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the whole career versus family thing?

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Speaker 1: How did you break it down?

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Speaker 12: I think you can have both. I don't understand why

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Speaker 12: you can have both.

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Speaker 10: I think a lot of women, maybe it's just on

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Speaker 10: social media, like you said, but I feel like they

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Speaker 10: think they can only have one or the other, and

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Speaker 10: that's just not true.

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Speaker 12: You can have both.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've heard it said that you can have both,

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Speaker 1: but not necessarily at the.

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Speaker 12: Same time, and I don't agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean you're you're eighteen. You haven't done

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Speaker 1: it yet, will. I have three kids, and I will

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Speaker 1: tell you that prioritizing family is a way better long

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Speaker 1: term payoff. That's what I would say. Easy for me

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Speaker 1: to say, I go to work every day, so but

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Speaker 1: my wife is my wife is very in agreement with that. Well,

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Speaker 1: you guys, it's been fascinating in a really good conversation,

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Speaker 1: and so thank you guys for making the time and coming.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for supporting Blake and Jack yesterday. What seems

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Speaker 1: like it was a great event.

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Speaker 12: It was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic. More to come, more to come. Congratulations on

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Speaker 1: the chapter exploding, and we'll see you guys. So you guys,

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Speaker 1: all right, God bless you guys. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 18: Welcome to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 18: The country has a new Secretary of Homeland Security this morning,

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Speaker 18: after the US Senate confirmed Oklahoma Republican Senator Mark Wayne

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Speaker 18: Mullen on Monday.

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Speaker 6: He's said to be sworn in at the White House quite.

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Speaker 18: Literally any minute now, will of course take you there

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Speaker 18: live the moment it happens. Mullin replaces Christy Nome as

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Speaker 18: head of the agency. Meantime, while in Memphis, Tennessee, on Monday,

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Speaker 18: President Trump joining a roundtable talking about making that city

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Speaker 18: safe again.

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Speaker 6: Here's some of what he had to say.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's been killed from the regime. They're really starting off.

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Speaker 2: There's automatically a regime change. But we're dealing with some

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Speaker 2: people that I find to be very reasonable, very solid.

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Speaker 2: The people within know who they are, they're very respected,

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Speaker 2: and maybe one of them will be exactly what we're

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Speaker 2: looking for.

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Speaker 18: That was the President talking about the situation in Iran.

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Speaker 18: He of course, is keeping his eye on the prize

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Speaker 18: in that particular country, Iran, dealing with a number.

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Speaker 6: Of issues right now.

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Speaker 18: As the President says that he is negotiating with Iranian leaders,

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Speaker 18: he says the current Islamic regime ready to make a

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Speaker 18: deal to end the war there. However, he also points

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Speaker 18: out that the country's newly elected leader, Oshtaba Hamani, hasn't

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Speaker 18: been seen or heard from since his supposed election as

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Speaker 18: the country supreme leader. While discussing the ongoing negotiations, the

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Speaker 18: President repeatedly used the term regime change. As you just

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Speaker 18: heard in that SoundBite. There's no word who the administration

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Speaker 18: is negotiating with inside of Iran. Senior Iranian officials are

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Speaker 18: now denying any ongoing talks with the United States. NTSB

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Speaker 18: investigators are working to confirm what led to Monday's deadly

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Speaker 18: plane crash at New York's ne Glardia Airport. The pilot

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Speaker 18: and co pilot of this Air Canada jet were getting

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Speaker 18: ready to show you are dead and dozens of passengers

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Speaker 18: are injured. After the plane had a fire truck that

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Speaker 18: was crossing the tarmac. An air traffic controller reportedly gave

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Speaker 18: the truck permission to respond to another plane that was

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Speaker 18: reporting an odor onboard. Moments later, the same air traffic

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Speaker 18: tower repeatedly ordered that truck to stop, but by then

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Speaker 18: it was too late. That's a quick check off your headlines,

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Speaker 18: Charlie Kirk Show, Where.

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Speaker 1: Truth Lives, All right, Welcome back emails are flooding in.

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Speaker 1: Charlie forur Hillsdale dot Com. All right, as we mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 1: we were going to be joined by Michael Schellenberger and

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Speaker 1: he's joining us now. Welcome to the show. Michael. It's

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Speaker 1: great to have you. Thank you for you know, we

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Speaker 1: talked this morning after your story broke and boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: it's a this is a big one, and you interviewed

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Speaker 1: Joe Ken and so I'll let you say it in

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Speaker 1: your own words. What did he tell you?

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Speaker 20: Hey, thanks for having me on, Andrew inviting me on. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: I mean I think it's pretty big news. Joe Can,

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Speaker 20: of course, the former director of the National counter Terrorism Center,

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Speaker 20: has been saying for the last week that he thinks

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Speaker 20: that he doesn't buy the loan shooter theory of the

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Speaker 20: assassination of Charlie Kirk. He suspects there's a foreign nexus

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Speaker 20: was the words he used, involved.

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Speaker 21: In that assassination.

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Speaker 20: He said that the FBI prevented him from investigating it,

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Speaker 20: and that he viewed that as suspicious and if there

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Speaker 20: was nothing there, he told me, then why did they

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Speaker 20: prevent him from investigating it? I asked him if he

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Speaker 20: was aware before he went public last week that Tyler Robinson,

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Speaker 20: the suspected assassin of Charlie Kirk, that his defense attorneys

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Speaker 20: might actually call Kent to the witness stand to argue

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Speaker 20: that Robinson could not be convicted because the prosecutors had

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Speaker 20: not given them all the information that available to them.

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Speaker 20: That something knows the Brady rule, named after a Supreme

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Speaker 20: Court decision I believe in the nineteen sixties, but nonethless,

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Speaker 20: most people are familiar with it from television, which is

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Speaker 20: that the prosecutors can't deny federal government, can't deny the government,

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Speaker 20: can't deny the defense any information.

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Speaker 21: And kent to saying that there is information and.

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Speaker 20: That the investigation itself was inadequate, and that I spoke

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Speaker 20: to a constitutional law legal scholar yesterday who said, you know,

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Speaker 20: it would be a no brainer for the defense attorneys

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Speaker 20: now for Robinson to use Kent statements as a way

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Speaker 20: to gain an advantage or potentially a hung jury or

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Speaker 20: a mistrial or something of that nature. So it's pretty

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Speaker 20: serious for people that are interested in seeing justice served.

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01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 21: With the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Michael, I know that you have to be

1526
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: sort of dispassionate you're a reporter, but to me, this

1527
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: feels like a giant redline. This feels like galaxy brain

1528
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: run a muck. Did you get a chance to ask

1529
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: him just straight up? Just because he didn't get let

1530
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: into the investigation doesn't mean it wasn't investigated.

1531
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean, thanks, I appreciate the point.

1532
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 20: I mean, I'm trying to you know, I mean, the

1533
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 20: truth is, I actually like kind of everybody involved in this.

1534
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 20: I've always I've actually admired Kent and the things he

1535
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 20: said in the past. I also care a lot about

1536
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 20: the transgender issue. We reported it exclusively on Leak.

1537
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: Kind amazing on this issue, Michael. Just to underscore your point,

1538
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: you have been one of the lead voices exposing some

1539
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: of the craziness and the zaniness behind the behind the

1540
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: trans gender radical trans ideology. So I just wanted to

1541
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: give you some bona fides there.

1542
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1543
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 20: Yeah, It's obviously it's a big issue, and I think

1544
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 20: many Americans felt that they didn't need to pay attention

1545
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 20: to the issue at all. But now we've seen trans

1546
01:17:55,720 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 20: identified people engaged in shootingsviously or maybe not obviously, probably

1547
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 20: obviously to your audience, it was the last thing that

1548
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 20: Charlie Kirk was talking about before he was assassinated. It

1549
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 20: appears as though the evidence that Tyler Robinson committed that

1550
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 20: assassination is pretty overwhelming, And to be fair to Joe Kent,

1551
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 20: he didn't dispute that. What's really what he's raising here

1552
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 20: is that there may be some broader conspiracy and there's

1553
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 20: not a lot of evidence for that. And but nonetheless,

1554
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 20: because Kent is such an important voice, he could easily

1555
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 20: be used by the defense attorneys. I did directly ask

1556
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 20: him repeatedly that you know, given that his agency is

1557
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 20: an intelligence gathering and really an intelligence synthesizing and coordinating agencies,

1558
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 20: part of the broader coordinating intelligence mission of the Office

1559
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 20: of the Director of National Intelligence, you know, he didn't

1560
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 20: have the authorities to do a law enforcement investigation. It

1561
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 20: was FBI investigation, and you know, didn't he sort of

1562
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 20: need to trust that his colleagues at the FBI and

1563
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 20: elsewhere or and also with the Utah Police law enforcement

1564
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 20: at some point, you know, you can pass along a

1565
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 20: tip or an idea, but don't you at some point

1566
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 20: have to sort of trust unless you have other evidence,

1567
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,879
Speaker 20: you know. And I asked him if he had other evidence,

1568
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 20: you know, of some sort of corruption or conspiracy, and

1569
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 20: he said he didn't. So it kind of raises the

1570
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 20: question of you know, what is this sort of based on.

1571
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 20: Because I think it's worth pointing out to people that

1572
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 20: the restrictions on Kent's authority to investigate the Kirk.

1573
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 21: Murder are not arbitrary.

1574
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 20: It's not something that Director cash Ptel, whatever you think

1575
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 20: of him, sort of invented as a way to stemy

1576
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 20: a proper investigation.

1577
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,440
Speaker 21: Those key those restrictions.

1578
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 20: On investigative power are what protect us as citizens. It's

1579
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 20: written into our constitution, It's part of our locking and

1580
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 20: system of government. And I think we saw those We

1581
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 20: saw the intelligence community abuse those powers to create the Russigate.

1582
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 21: Hoax, you know, the Russia against Cycle Hopes.

1583
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 20: So and it's not just that, I mean, we can

1584
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 20: go through you know, the intellig It wasn't the first

1585
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 20: time the intelligence community had.

1586
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:10,520
Speaker 21: A used its powers.

1587
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 20: But when you go through so these the restrictions on

1588
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 20: Kent that I think for people that maybe haven't thought

1589
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 20: about it a lot, or haven't you know, that don't work,

1590
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 20: don't aren't familiar with the intricacies of why these laws exist.

1591
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 20: I think it's important context, like, these laws are not

1592
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 20: there to prevent a thorough investigation or to cover up things.

1593
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 20: And it certainly wasn't a subjective determination by the FBI director.

1594
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 21: It's written into laws, and those laws are there, you know.

1595
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 20: First and foremost to protect us, obviously, but obviously part

1596
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 20: of the process of protecting innocent civilians is also to

1597
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 20: make sure that you get the guilty party and you

1598
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,480
Speaker 20: don't go off and engage in activities that would potentially

1599
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 20: entrap innocent people.

1600
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 17: So two questions for you, Michael. So, first of all,

1601
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 17: I just want to really harp on this point. He

1602
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 17: didn't present any Did he present a single example of

1603
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 17: evidence against Tyler Robinson that he believes may have been

1604
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 17: flawed or mistaken? On one end, and on the other end,

1605
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 17: did he give you a single concrete example of evidence

1606
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 17: in the case that he believes that he specifically that

1607
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 17: went uninvestigated by the FBI or by any other law enforcement.

1608
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 20: I'm afraid I can't answer all of these questions because

1609
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 20: I have to protect but I will say that he

1610
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 20: presented nothing on the record and hasn't presented anything on

1611
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 20: the record.

1612
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to I would love to follow

1613
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: up on that, but I have a feeling that we're

1614
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna Yeah, there's nothing you can you could say, Yeah,

1615
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's the problem though, So he's now

1616
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: essentially said that he's willing to go testify, ostensibly on

1617
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: behalf of the defense, on Tyler Robinson's defense. I've heard

1618
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: him say in other interviews that you know, he's he said,

1619
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a slam dunk case against Tyler Robinson.

1620
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't him, But now it seems

1621
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: like almost he's moved on from that point. Did you

1622
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: ascertain his sense his internal sense of the guilt of

1623
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson or not?

1624
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 21: Well, this is.

1625
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 20: Let's get let's get into this part because this is

1626
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 20: extremely important and important to understand. And I posted the

1627
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 20: all of the on the record portions of our interview.

1628
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 20: I posted and also was very careful to make sure

1629
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 20: that the stuff that was posted was on the record

1630
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 20: after the fact, confirmed it with Kent earlier today before publishing.

1631
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 20: So everything that's in that recording, it's over thirty minutes.

1632
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 20: I think what's He also said that he thought that

1633
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 20: there was a strong case against Robinson, and I don't.

1634
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 21: Think he's changed that view.

1635
01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1636
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 21: Well, I should put it this way. I don't think

1637
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 21: anybody in the media had yet.

1638
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 20: Asked him directly and kind of consistently if he was

1639
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 20: aware that his allegations could be used by Robinson's defense

1640
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 20: team to argue that Robinson was potentially a victim of

1641
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 20: a wider conspiracy, and Ken said that he was aware

1642
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 20: of that before going public.

1643
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 21: The Brady rule is not an obscure rule.

1644
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 20: I mean, everybody knows that the defense attorneys are going

1645
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 20: to need to know everything that went into some investigation,

1646
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 20: any government investigation. That's a really important civil liberties protection,

1647
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 20: you know. And similarly, it's a protection, you know, it's

1648
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 20: a protection of the innocent. It's a strong protection of

1649
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 20: people of defendants that people may be very convinced already guilty.

1650
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 21: But it's also there to make sure.

1651
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 20: That you're not, you know, like we've been talking about,

1652
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 20: abusing those authorities. But he said he was aware of that.

1653
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 20: He said he wasn't like volunteering to take but he

1654
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 20: said he was aware that he might be asked to investigating.

1655
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 20: Like I said, I think, I think if I'd be

1656
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 20: shocked if Robinson's attorneys don't use this.

1657
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: Well, of course, yeah, this is the obvious This is

1658
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: the obvious result of this is that he's doing this

1659
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: PR tour.

1660
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 17: And that's what infuriates me is he's like endlessly He's

1661
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 17: like someone who's vague posting on Facebook, where he's like,

1662
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 17: there's there's.

1663
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 5: Things I might know, people should know.

1664
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 17: I might I can't tell you, but I can't go

1665
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 17: I can't go on the record with this reporter that

1666
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 17: I'm talking to.

1667
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 5: I can't.

1668
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: It's say what you actually think happened. If you want

1669
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: to do that, you can at least argue with him.

1670
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 1: But like this endless appeal to well, I had the

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01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: senior job. I saw things every wee.

1672
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 17: I'm sick and tired of seeing this, and I always

1673
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 17: see it from the same people who are maximally conspiratorial.

1674
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 21: I think, Michael, can you.

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Speaker 1: Can you stay right there? I'm sorry, I gotta do

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back more with Michael Schellenberger. We'll drive back.

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Speaker 1: All right, We are back with Michael Schellenberger, who has

1696
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Speaker 1: just interviewed Joe Kent and with the bombshell that he

1697
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: is willing to testify at the trial of Tyler Robinson

1698
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: probably going to be a defense witness at this point.

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way around that. Here's what

1700
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: I want everybody to know. Shortly after Tyler Robinson's arrest,

1701
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:33,839
Speaker 1: the prosecutors released a probable cause affidavit detailing the evidence

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01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: gathered immediately after Charlie's assassination. The evidence presented at that

1703
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: time was overwhelming, but people also need to remember this.

1704
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: In the months that have followed, we know the investigation

1705
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: has continued. More details will come out in May when

1706
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: the assassin has a probable cause hearing, and we are

1707
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: certain there will be even more evidence submitted against Tyler

1708
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Robinson by the state. And that's so so the frustration here, Michael,

1709
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: is that we have this vacuum, this void that's been

1710
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: created where the investigation is kind of still ongoing. They're

1711
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: still gathering it, getting it presentable for this may probable

1712
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: cause hearing, but the Internet never stops. And Joe Kent

1713
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: resigned when he did, and now he's doing this PR tour,

1714
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: and it really does and I want to get this

1715
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: through the audience's head. This really does have a potential

1716
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: to not only taint a jury pool, but to undermine

1717
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: the very prosecution of Tyler Robinson, who I am one

1718
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: hundred percent convinced pulled the trigger and killed Charlie Kirk.

1719
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Could you just speak to that.

1720
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 20: Yeah, sure, I mean I think you know, the first

1721
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 20: thing that's just worth acknowledging is that, you know, the

1722
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 20: American people, all of us have seen you know, real

1723
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 20: world conspiracies exposed. And I mean by conspiracies, you know,

1724
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 20: illegal secret activity by the government.

1725
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 21: Russia Gate collusion hoax is the most amus.

1726
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 20: We uncovered a censorship industrial complex whereby government officials working

1727
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 20: with you know, intelligence community officials or recently departed intelligence

1728
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 20: community officials, pressure and social media companies to engage in

1729
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 20: mass censorship. We saw a cover up of the science

1730
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 20: of COVID's origins, almost certainly in a laboratory in China.

1731
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 20: So I think Americans are and that's not even to

1732
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 20: get into you know, other spectacular or potential conspiracies like JFK.

1733
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Or You been on all of that stuff as well, Michael,

1734
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm not. We like the conspiracy theorists have been proven

1735
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: right about a lot, but that was before you had

1736
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: people that Charlie helped get in these positions in the

1737
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: first place, you know, as part of the investigative arm.

1738
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: You know, I just anyways, I'm sorry I cut you off.

1739
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,759
Speaker 20: Please, well, no, I mean I think that's just important

1740
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 20: context that you know, I'm I'm my opponent. My critics

1741
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 20: called me, accused me of being an irresponsible conspiracy theorist.

1742
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 20: So but I also just think it's import and you know,

1743
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 20: obviously that you have evidence to allege potential, you know,

1744
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 20: you know, really strong evidence to put, especially behind really

1745
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 20: strong allegations like this one.

1746
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,520
Speaker 21: And I think a lot of times.

1747
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 20: Right now, you know, because the social media and podcasting

1748
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 20: is so powerful that I think, you know, it's fun,

1749
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 20: it's entertaining. You know, everybody loves a good conspiracy theory,

1750
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 20: and I think that's you know, I think actually some

1751
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,480
Speaker 20: amount of speculation is necessary.

1752
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 21: I think you should ask.

1753
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 20: Asking even outrageous questions is totally appropriate.

1754
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 21: I think too.

1755
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 20: I think though, that there are consequences potentially if that

1756
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 20: starts to affect things like juries, you know, and it

1757
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 20: starts to you know, I think the point is that

1758
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 20: we want to have trust in our institutions. That it's

1759
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 20: not that we want to be in a state of

1760
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 20: permanent distrust.

1761
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 21: We need to have.

1762
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 20: That's why you needed regular changes of government to have

1763
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 20: you know, clean house. I have seen no evidence that

1764
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 20: anybody in this administration would do anything. I mean, this

1765
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 20: is an administration that's absolutely passionate about Charlie Kirk.

1766
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 4: That you know.

1767
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 20: I think everybody knows that the reaction from the Trump

1768
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 20: administration in the White House, all the federal agencies was

1769
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 20: of just shock and horror and outrage. So I just

1770
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 20: don't see how, you how any broader conspiracy could be

1771
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 20: either carried out or or covered up in the ways

1772
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 20: that I think Joe Kenna is suggesting here. And and

1773
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 20: so you know, like like you know, if there's just

1774
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 20: really not there's just not anything here that would suggest

1775
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 20: that there's a cover up going on that I'm seeing,

1776
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 20: or that anybody else was involved, then you know than

1777
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 20: Tyler Robinson, you know, and I think can at one

1778
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 20: point sort of or a couple of points maybe in

1779
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 20: the interview, sort of agreed that you don't need anybody else.

1780
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 20: I mean, Tyler Robinson. You know, it appears from the

1781
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 20: evidence has been released so far, there's ample motive and

1782
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 20: a lot of evidence that he did it. So I

1783
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 20: don't I just don't see the need to add something

1784
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 20: else to it. And again you would think, well, maybe

1785
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 20: it's just for fun and you know, just you know,

1786
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 20: you know, podcasting entertainment. But in this case, I think

1787
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 20: the consequences could be quite serious.

1788
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I think we're all terrified of.

1789
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 1: And I just want to make a point here. I

1790
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: am for asking questions. This is why I shared the

1791
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 1: group chat with Joe Kent in the first place. I'm

1792
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: not afraid of the answer to those questions. If Israel

1793
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 1: had a hand in killing Charlie, I want to know,

1794
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to know. What I'm telling you is that

1795
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: we've had six months plus since that time to track

1796
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: down all those leads, none of which have been corroborated,

1797
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 1: none of which have actionable evidence behind, none of which

1798
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: have been presented in any way, shape or form to

1799
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,560
Speaker 1: suggest there was there was a probable that there's.

1800
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 17: An evidence, overwhelming evidence, very rapidly. There's evidence that's scurently facing.

1801
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1802
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 1: I am willing to ask the hard questions. We want

1803
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 1: the truth. But when there's no evidence and there's no

1804
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: facts that would back up those questions, then you have

1805
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: to say, okay, moving on, all right, you couldn't corroborate it. Okay.

1806
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: So I'm not anti asking questions, I'm not anti conspiracy theories.

1807
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: I'm I'm open to it all, okay, but you have

1808
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: to have facts. And the recklessness with which these accusations

1809
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: are being thrown out now has real world implications, and

1810
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,799
Speaker 1: I just it's this brain rot, Michael that's driving me insane.

1811
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Being on the other side of it. I will never

1812
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: look at a conspiracy theory the same way having been

1813
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 1: on this side of it, because people make jumps to conclude,

1814
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: they jump to conclusions, they connect disparate pieces of evidence,

1815
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 1: and they connect them in ways that don't make any sense.

1816
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: So anyways, I guess final minute to you, Michael, where

1817
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: does this leave us and what do you expect to

1818
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: happen next?

1819
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1820
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 21: I mean for me.

1821
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 20: You know, I've even worked on this for now a

1822
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 20: couple of days, and really it's been heavy focus on it.

1823
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:04,480
Speaker 20: Walk Away just reminded that these restrictions on what intelligence

1824
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 20: agencies can do are really good and important, and we

1825
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 20: wouldn't want to reduce those protections. I'm not seeing evidence

1826
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:13,520
Speaker 20: of a wider conspiracy.

1827
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 21: I don't think.

1828
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 20: Anyone's presented evidence of that. I am very worried about

1829
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 20: this affecting the trial. I think most people, when they

1830
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 20: think about what's occurred now, would share that concern. And

1831
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 20: you know, I think that people sometimes want to have

1832
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 20: a bigger meaning for the Charlie Kirk assassination, Like it

1833
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 20: couldn't just be one guy. I mean, because the assassination

1834
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 20: is just it's one of the you know, most significant

1835
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 20: political assassinations in American history, and so to kind of

1836
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 20: go is just a guy, you know, you know that

1837
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 20: had a maybe a furry fetish and a trans identified boyfriend.

1838
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 20: I think for a lot of people that might feel

1839
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 20: like not big enough or something or significant enough. And

1840
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 20: I would say it is big enough. What's I mean?

1841
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 21: Charlie Kirk's whole legacy is tied up with him not

1842
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 21: going along with the idea that he needed to agree

1843
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 21: with a belief that you could change your sex or

1844
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 21: that and then it could become amend.

1845
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: It's a powerful inside, Michael, We've got to wrap it up.

1846
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: That's a powerful insight. It's not psychologically satisfying enough the

1847
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 1: truth for some people, but the truth has to be

1848
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: the truth at some point. Thank you Michael for joining

1849
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: us on short notice. Thank you Michael. We'll be back

1850
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Speaker 1: to ar