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Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up, Get Up? What is up? Mets fans?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Mets Up Podcast, Episode.

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Speaker 2: Number one forty six.

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Speaker 1: We missed you. It's been a week. It's what we're

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Speaker 1: doing here in the off season unless we got something

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Speaker 1: important to talk about right now. There's not a whole

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Speaker 1: lot going on in Mets world, but baseball still goes

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Speaker 1: on as we know. Unfortunately, We're gonna talk about what

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Speaker 1: happened in the past week, and anything that is Mets

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Speaker 1: related that we can possibly talk about, we will.

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Speaker 2: So that's what we're gonna do this episode.

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Speaker 1: James back at City Field. Yes, weird again. Still feels

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Speaker 1: weird to be here where this was weirder than any

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Speaker 1: other ones now yeah over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's really it really the season's over. Like

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Speaker 2: on the seven trains today, I was like, oh god.

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Speaker 1: Like we were just on the seven train with people

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Speaker 1: that were commuting to and from work. Yeah home, yeah,

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Speaker 1: looking looking to go home. We were coming to City

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Speaker 1: Field to do a podcast to take it back. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it feels weird, especially with what's been going

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Speaker 1: on in baseball and the fact that the Phillies are

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Speaker 1: in the World Series.

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Speaker 2: I mean pretty crazy. I it makes me sick to

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Speaker 2: my stomach. It doesn't make me that sick. For a

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Speaker 2: couple of reasons. No reason, Well, we had three reasons.

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Speaker 2: I guess that one reason isse I kind of predicted this,

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Speaker 2: like I told everyone they were really good in the

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Speaker 2: off season, and round about way I wound up becoming right,

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Speaker 2: They're just like not that good, but they had the

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Speaker 2: perfect amount of variance. They hit it the right way,

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Speaker 2: they signed college for that changed everything. I talked about

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Speaker 2: that all last offseason. And then the other one is that

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Speaker 2: we beat the piss at them all season. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: that's why. Also, I don't feel bad about them being

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Speaker 2: in the World Series because like, oh, here's a team

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Speaker 2: that we very clearly were better than the entire.

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Speaker 1: Seasons in there, so fourteen and five I think something

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Speaker 2: And the third reason is that they're just they've been

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Speaker 2: kind of likable, like they've been fun. I know they

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Speaker 2: have been.

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Speaker 1: That's the worst part, right, Like that Bride's Hard for

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Speaker 1: Moneyball video is like sweeping the nation right now.

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Speaker 2: It's so annoying. One of the best edits has ever

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Speaker 2: been made, and it's really cool it but like it's

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Speaker 2: it's so frustrating because like you watch the NLCS between

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Speaker 2: the Padres and the Phillies and you see two players,

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Speaker 2: the best players standing on each side of the field, Brence, Harper,

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Speaker 2: may and Machado. They're both three agents same offseason, every

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Speaker 2: single team baseball had they shot the side and those

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Speaker 2: off precipice of spring training. Literally two guys who are

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Speaker 2: on Hall of Fame tracks to who are Bress Harper

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Speaker 2: won the MVP last year. Maya Michila was kind of

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Speaker 2: crazy as in one one year. I think all the

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Speaker 2: rights hate them. He just loves being top five and

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Speaker 2: MVP like he does every single year. Like those two

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Speaker 2: guys are one hundred percent on a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: path right now, two of like by far, the best

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Speaker 2: two things that everybody needs, like a power hitting outfielder

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Speaker 2: and and an incredible third basement on both sides of

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Speaker 2: the ball. And everyone was like, ah, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I remember that off season. I was still in college.

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Speaker 1: I believe I was in my last year. Was that

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, so it was my final year

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Harper and Machado chase in that free agency year

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Speaker 1: it's like I think at some point every Mets fan

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Speaker 1: point has called Bryce Harper overrated. But I think at

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Speaker 1: And we're very against the overrated chance.

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Speaker 2: It is a call for Mets if some players will

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Speaker 2: deserve it, maybe heading in the next few years, Like

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Speaker 2: who's the guy who's not gonna be we should call overrated?

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's a really good question. That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: Is that I don't know, like if you had Cody Bellinger.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I'm trying. I'm thinking specifically in

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Speaker 2: teams we don't like you also like have to kind

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Speaker 2: of be a villain that channel's braves. Who would you

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Speaker 2: say most over a player in each team?

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Speaker 1: Ronald the Kune is probably that guy, right, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna go Yeah, but that's also like a poked the

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Speaker 2: I want to stay And can you can't tell Tommy

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Speaker 2: Edney's over eight and he's actually probably under one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy pounds, soaking wet. But I mean it's just

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Speaker 2: it was a called the Mets fans never called Brice

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Speaker 2: Harper over it. Yeah, we need the guys a freaking

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Speaker 2: least so good. Like it's just I don't know motion

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Speaker 1: Also the fact that the Philly series that lined up.

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Speaker 2: For three home games over the weekend they won all

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Speaker 2: of them. They just like the place was packed every

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Speaker 2: single day. It's awful, seem terrible seeing those awful people celebrate.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I have no, I don't have many problems

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't like I don't like Hoskins, I don't

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Speaker 1: like I don't like Jose Alvarado.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't like Jose Alvarado. Guards on my list,

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Speaker 2: A little bit of cinder guards getting there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just eternally respect Jeans Cigara, but that's your guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of my guys. Uh Like everyone else,

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Speaker 1: I don't dislike this is This is probably one of

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Speaker 1: because boy oh boy, am I rooting incredib Let's go

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Speaker 1: astro shit going, Because I mean, thank god that happened,

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Speaker 2: Freef you speak about the Yankees, because that was just

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Speaker 2: an ass kicking. This is something that like, yeah, as

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Speaker 2: but at least like we knew that the way the

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Speaker 2: season ended, like it was our fault. These were self

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Speaker 2: Chris Bassett incredible, reliable all year, a couple of bad stars.

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Speaker 2: It was just like we saw our bats get hot

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Speaker 2: We just we called a cold week and happening to

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Speaker 2: the most important one. Yeah, you look at the Yankees

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Speaker 2: and the Braids as well. They were playing well and

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Speaker 2: they just got beat by teams better than that. Yep,

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Speaker 2: Like that is something that I that would be a

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Speaker 2: We ruined for those teams. The Yankees were chanting, we

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Speaker 2: want Houston. Yeah, my god, didn't win a game, didn't

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Speaker 2: they play? Wasn't that that they played like less innings

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Speaker 2: the Marriagers them didn't have like that, Like, yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 2: but that was much more competitive.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the Yankees got up Yankes, couldn't people

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Speaker 1: giving the Mets crap. The Yankees couldn't even get close housed,

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Speaker 1: well close to packing a stadium, no, in a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't sell out. And that was American League Championship Series. Yea.

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Speaker 2: And the Astros again, the Astros are a juggernaut. The

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Speaker 2: Astro is the best franchise in baseball. I can't stop

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Speaker 2: respecting the Astros, but like lots of respect, it's like

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Speaker 2: it's it's also funny though, like the Astros cheat and

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Speaker 2: the Yankees take them to seven games and the ass

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Speaker 2: I guess are not cheating allegedly anymore, and they sweep them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe should let them cheat. Guys. You guys harped

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Speaker 2: I'm sure stuff was going on. Jim Jim Bob media

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Speaker 2: selling Astros apparel, imagine that. Yeah, I mean it was.

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Speaker 2: It was really nice.

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Speaker 1: It was really nice to see them lose, just because

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Speaker 1: with Phillies fans making the World Series. Unless we're really

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Speaker 2: You probably just ignore it. You can miss it. It's

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Speaker 2: also just like it's this weird thing in our brains

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Speaker 2: I know we were them, we were yeah against them,

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Speaker 2: and we're openly better than you.

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Speaker 1: We honestly if there's anything that.

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Speaker 1: I mean we got Georg Groardi fired. Okay, yeah, And

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Speaker 1: so I was gonna say, okay, okay, okay. I thought

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Speaker 2: We did beat them, so no, no, no, I wasn't gonna

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Speaker 2: be like World World Series by transit problem. It was

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Speaker 2: not gonna say that because that's absolutely not true at all.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we we had we had a big hand

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Speaker 2: in this because we killed Joe Girardi.

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Speaker 1: So I guess shame won notts.

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Speaker 2: And it's also talked about this so much beginning of

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Speaker 2: the year, the freaking schedule, playing the Phillies twelve times

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Speaker 2: the dirt, making them hit rock bottom and letting them rebound.

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Speaker 2: And we didn't get those easy games against this Phillies

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Speaker 2: team to keep ourselves afloat late in the year terrible.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy how every year, like you kind of trick

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Speaker 1: yourself into thinking that the beginning of the year matters

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Speaker 1: as much. And we said it too, like every game

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Speaker 1: does matter. But really you just get hot at the

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Speaker 1: right time. That's really all it is in baseball at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, because like on paper, no

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Speaker 1: one was saying the Phillies are the best team in

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Speaker 1: the National League, not even close.

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Speaker 2: No, of course not. They were the last team in

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Speaker 2: the field if.

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Speaker 1: They didn't change.

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Speaker 2: If they didn't change two rules this year, and this

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Speaker 2: never would have happened. First of all, the playoff format

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Speaker 2: allowing the Phillies to reach it as the sixth seed

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Speaker 2: in their own cop League conference with the football mode,

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Speaker 2: and then the universal of the age allowing Bryce Harper

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Speaker 2: to play for an entire season when he needs Tommy

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Speaker 2: John surgery. Like what a bad break is that for

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Speaker 2: everyone else?

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Speaker 1: He'll peak behind the curtain for you guys, James texting me,

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Speaker 1: this is your fault because this is what I wanted

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Speaker 2: Austin Nola stopped hitting. He did get he did get

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Speaker 1: The people who were who hate the analytics, they're out

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Speaker 2: There was a guy who I found that was actually

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Speaker 1: They literally hired a dude from Twitter, FLb Random Stats,

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Speaker 1: He built this.

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Speaker 1: Look how old all guys are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean the Astros are just probably the

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Speaker 1: As a Mets fan, you gotta know it takes time,

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Speaker 1: That's when last off season wants to be the Dodgers. No,

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Speaker 2: Ever, you got lot losers in the locker room for sure.

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Speaker 2: This is I guess his analytics. This isn't really analytics.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's like the last thing I wanted

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Speaker 2: Against everyone else, Aaron Nola was eleven and nine with

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Speaker 2: They hit him they beat these guys every single time

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Speaker 2: World Series. Yeah, that's that's rubbin salt and the wound. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Prediction prediction Ash shows in four quileiad sweep ghost drums.

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Speaker 1: Please please, for the love of God, anything else happened

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Speaker 1: A catcher should win it. Yes, should win one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent sholl win. It probably won't, probably won't because who

436
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Speaker 1: who picks the goal gloves?

437
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Speaker 2: Is it rulings or is it writers? I think the

438
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Speaker 2: way is voted on is like actual coaches. Oh that

439
00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,760
Speaker 2: that's even worse. Yeah, I know, even less qualified. Right,

440
00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,840
Speaker 2: make a decision on this. But then the catchers nominated

441
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Speaker 2: the National League Aarnido, Real, Muto and Varshow so the

442
00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,520
Speaker 2: two best hitting catchers.

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Speaker 1: And one guy who played the outfield. Yeah, because Vult

444
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Speaker 1: Varshow caught. I guess he technically caught enough innings to qualify,

445
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Speaker 1: but he played the outfield for the Diamonbacks.

446
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Speaker 2: Let's be honest. It's also I mean call Spaye the spade.

447
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Speaker 2: I think you should be nominated for the catcher goal gloves.

448
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,720
Speaker 2: You could play not a position above out that's fair.

449
00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,080
Speaker 2: That's almost like that's almost cooler than just be your catcher.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah no, Adulton var Show is an incredible talent, but

451
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Speaker 1: Thomas Nido I think should take it home. Rio Muto

452
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,360
Speaker 1: guts to be the Nation League champion. Give Tomaso the

453
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Speaker 1: gold glove bar Show this year. Guess him any innings

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Speaker 1: he caught four hundred and fifty one hundred seventy five.

455
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Speaker 1: That's like not nearly enough to be nominated for the

456
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Speaker 1: catching spot. It's like twenty games, that's that's that is

457
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Speaker 1: twenty games period.

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Speaker 2: You pero, he started the eighteen games a catcher that's

459
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Speaker 2: here than thirty one, and they said that's our guy.

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Speaker 1: It's our third choice, so it's gotta be Nido. Then

461
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Speaker 1: I guess, let's go to mas Ndo mets up Bump.

462
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,000
Speaker 1: Let's get it even more. Fur Show is nominated for outfield.

463
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Speaker 1: And you tell you to talk about a second who

464
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Speaker 1: was the other catcher? Then yes, guess Jacob Stallings. Nope, uh,

465
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Speaker 1: you have an aversion to him? Have an aversion? Yeah,

466
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Speaker 1: strong one strong Yadier Molina. No. Oh, Travis Starno, yep,

467
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Speaker 1: Oh God, I'm getting mad, getting really mad. And Travis

468
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Speaker 1: Starno just can't throw out a runner but catch tell

469
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Speaker 1: us neither cold glove. That's what you need to know.

470
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Speaker 1: But now to get into the controversy, Yeah, Jeff McNeil

471
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Speaker 1: and Francisco Indoor somehow did not find their way nominated

472
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Speaker 1: anywhere on this list. Luis Qiorme, it's unbelievable. One. Let's

473
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Speaker 1: start with Francisco Indoor, maybe the best defensive shortstop in

474
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Speaker 1: baseball and one of the most valuable defensive players. At

475
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Speaker 1: least maybe the top three best defensive shortstops in baseball,

476
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Speaker 1: we will really want to get crazy. There's I know

477
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Speaker 1: why he's not on there, and it's stupid. It's dumb.

478
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Speaker 1: It's because DRS, which you gotta be half an idiot

479
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Speaker 1: to use that still when you have OA in better stats.

480
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't make any sense to me that he

481
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Speaker 1: does not get on even as bad as he was

482
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Speaker 1: in DRS.

483
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Speaker 2: Francisco Lindor Still, in terms of fangrats had the eighth

484
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,720
Speaker 2: highest rating of any player in baseball and the second

485
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Speaker 2: highest of any player will called shortstop their home full time.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah thirteen OAA.

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Speaker 1: If you guys don't know, OA outs above average DRS

488
00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,680
Speaker 1: defensive run saved OA is the superior stat when kyulag defense.

489
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Speaker 1: There's still no perfect stat and OA works. I don't

490
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Speaker 1: know exactly DRS works. I'm kind of just like I

491
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Speaker 1: know how DRS works, right, So it's kind it's kind

492
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Speaker 1: of like UZR in that it takes the play and

493
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Speaker 1: puts it up against how many other like shortstops relatively

494
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Speaker 1: make that play. But I don't think it takes into

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Speaker 1: account positioning, and I don't think it takes into account

496
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Speaker 1: like field sizes and like scenarios. I think it's just

497
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Speaker 1: very much like if seventy five percent of shortstops make

498
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Speaker 1: this play, you get x amount of points because you

499
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Speaker 1: made it. OA has a blindspop position too. Correct.

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00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 2: Yes, Jonathan Scope has the highest OA I think ever

501
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 2: was the highest defensive araithing on finger yes, of any play.

502
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Speaker 1: But there's a huge blind spot because I've watched I'm

503
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Speaker 1: not joking two to three hours of Jonathan Scope taking

504
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 1: round balls and the guy makes unimpressive play after unimpressive play,

505
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Speaker 1: and he somehow has the highest defensive RATINGA.

506
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Speaker 2: It takes all the plays he made, some of the drs.

507
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Speaker 2: But I think they just take a little more of

508
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Speaker 2: like a holistic view and how they give each ball

509
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 2: in play a probability similar to Hall expecting batting average

510
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 2: and ex BOBA are created and your ability to like

511
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Speaker 2: stop a play that is theoretically a difficult play in

512
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Speaker 2: terms of the probability that play is converted into it

513
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Speaker 2: out or even just the ball in the glove.

514
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Speaker 1: And I mean it is against the average fielder too.

515
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like warn away, like what's the average

516
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Speaker 1: shortstop make? And they do break it down by positioning

517
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Speaker 1: to where back in left and right, so it does

518
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Speaker 1: tell you which way guys are better defensively, and.

519
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Speaker 2: Francis Condors in the ninety eighth percentile in that statistic

520
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,479
Speaker 2: left doubt, and he played the most innings the other

521
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 2: guys was it was Miguel Rojas, right, Dancy Swans and

522
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Speaker 2: Danzey Fomson probably won't win if anyone has a claim

523
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Speaker 2: besides the door this dance, because he had played a

524
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: great year there. He played one hundred and sixty two games.

525
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 2: They're only got one hundred and sixty one in because

526
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 2: he broke his finger that one day. Yeah, in the

527
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Speaker 2: door in San Francisco. But yeah, so Miguil Rojas, Lindor

528
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Speaker 2: and I think it might have been Edmund, I think.

529
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Speaker 1: It's host and Kim.

530
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Speaker 2: I think it's on Kim right, which he's a good fielder,

531
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Speaker 2: he's good.

532
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Speaker 1: They're all good fielders.

533
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Speaker 2: But just like watching for Cisco indoor day in the

534
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Speaker 2: day out, for him not to be nominated for that

535
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: award was egregious, preposterous. Now here's a big one.

536
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil. Jeff McNeil not being nominated not only at

537
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Speaker 1: second base but the utility one felt like it was

538
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Speaker 1: made for him and Luis Ki your Bay and to

539
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Speaker 1: have both of them not on, especially Jeff McNeil, is preposterous.

540
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Speaker 2: It's kind of funny because we had this utility conversation

541
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Speaker 2: like a month ago about I don't know everything is

542
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 2: blown together here, but like we kind of talked about

543
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: like where a player becomes utility player and where a

544
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Speaker 2: player is not utility player. And Tommy Edmund was nominated

545
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Speaker 2: for this award. He's probably gonna win. I think the

546
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Speaker 2: reason he was nominated there was because he basically split

547
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Speaker 2: his time evenly this year between second base and short stop. Yeah,

548
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: very well, Tommy Edman's very good ball defensive player, right,

549
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: But the whole thing we're talking about is that I

550
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 2: don't know how much of utility player you are when

551
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Speaker 2: you're playing two positions are basically the same ish as

552
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Speaker 2: as similar as two positions are in the entire baseball field.

553
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: Basically besides the corner, the same corner afield spots are

554
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Speaker 2: second short In the.

555
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Speaker 1: Relatively speaking, every short stop can play second base, and

556
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 1: most shorts or second baseman can play shortstop.

557
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

558
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Speaker 1: Now the quality changes, for sure, but the idea is

559
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Speaker 1: you're a middle infielder.

560
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Speaker 2: Yes, and Tommy Edman also played eight in things in

561
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Speaker 2: the outfield. So I guess that's security in utility stats. Also,

562
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Speaker 2: Brendan Donvan nominally for this award, I guess's fine because

563
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: they just wanted to get the Cardinals some love. Yeah really,

564
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Speaker 2: I mean, just keep on, Bob McGibbon. The way Jeffmingneil

565
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: played two vastly different positions at incredibly high levels this year,

566
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Speaker 2: between corner affield and second base, like that I think

567
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: is the real, the real Cruxies Utility Award.

568
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: And at second base he was disgusting DRS. He was

569
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Speaker 1: positive at three, which I think put him like in

570
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Speaker 1: the top five ANDAA. At second base he had seven,

571
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Speaker 1: which was the second most, only behind Tommy Edmonds. So

572
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Speaker 1: the fact that he's not included on this list anywhere,

573
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Speaker 1: especially at the second base was is baffling to me.

574
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Speaker 1: I mean, we watched this guy every single day, and

575
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Speaker 1: I know whoever decides this, I don't know who it is.

576
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: Still here's a get to, but he's a good one.

577
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Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan, he we're gonna'm gonna use away for this one.

578
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: Just gonna on Baseball Savat right now.

579
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Speaker 2: He played three positions primarily this year right field, third base,

580
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Speaker 2: second base. He only had a positive OA in one

581
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 2: of them, and he got the utility. Yeah, yeah, and

582
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: that was and that was the that was the position

583
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: he played objectively the least interesting. It's still negative three

584
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: outs above average on the season. What was McNeil in

585
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: left field or in the outfield? Just in general?

586
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Speaker 1: Do you have that for me?

587
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 2: Or We're gonna have to look that one up.

588
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Speaker 1: It's coming in a moment. I mean, overall he was

589
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Speaker 1: ninety five ninety fifth percent.

590
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: Thats above that.

591
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: No, he was, he was great, like I think left

592
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: in left field he was minus one. But I mean

593
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Speaker 1: that's not I mean, that's pretty now. I will I

594
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: think the one problem with Gyor may could be that

595
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Speaker 1: maybe he didn't qualify enough innings. Yeah, because I'm lowering

596
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Speaker 1: the numbers at second base and there's just not I

597
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Speaker 1: think about three hundred and fifty any more third base. Yeah,

598
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: he played a lot more third base. I guess that's

599
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: a good point, But he should have been utility. If

600
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan's getting there, that's I mean.

601
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Speaker 2: And another one that was agreed just that we haven't

602
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Speaker 2: gotten to yet is right field feld Yeah, where I

603
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: mean or left field?

604
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: Right field?

605
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: What do you mean one, so yes, whitefield, right right field,

606
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: yeah one. Sola was nominated for right field. He and

607
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Speaker 2: anyone who watched baseball and too.

608
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: By the way.

609
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just these ajectively, Wan objectively one of the

610
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: worst fielders in baseball this year. He seems to not

611
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 2: care that much about it, which is fine. Yeah, when

612
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 2: he hit like Wan Soda for sure, and he made

613
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: a couple of bad plays also in the postseason that

614
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Speaker 2: we're in on national television.

615
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Speaker 1: Wait you see my tweet? Yes, yeah, I tweeted out

616
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Speaker 1: the picture that the Padres posted when Soda got nominated,

617
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: as they should, I mean, it's their player, congratulating him

618
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Speaker 1: on winning his goal glove. And as soon as he

619
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: made like those two botch plays in right field, I

620
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: tweeted out saying congratulations to your National League nominee Juan

621
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: Soto after the game, like thirty minutes after the game ended,

622
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: Juan Sota liked it, and I do believe it is

623
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Speaker 1: the last tweet he's liked on Twitter since that day.

624
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm about to go check. That's kind of funny, but

625
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Speaker 1: big week for me with player interactions play interactions.

626
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a little b annoying that the

627
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Speaker 2: Mets got second to last second, what was the last one?

628
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Speaker 1: I love watching one Soda and Bryce Arper come up

629
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: with clutch hits for their teams in the playoffs. Would

630
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Speaker 1: be all smith. The Nats could get somebody like that one.

631
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Danny nasts baseball. That's awesome. That's a

632
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: good tweet. Twetat, I'm gonna retweet it. That's a good tweet.

633
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: That's a great tweet. Oh god, you know it's a

634
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: good point. But it's a little frustrating that we had

635
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: to endure all we had to endure in the Mets

636
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: world and then just like just the most insignificant, annoying,

637
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: just like a little slap in the face, and none

638
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: of our players are nominated for Gold Gloves. That's almost

639
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: neither Who and Tywan Walker had a case at picture

640
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: to major case. Even Brandon had the case in the

641
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: fantastic year in center field. Played a great right field,

642
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: better than one so, way better than Son, play the

643
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: better left field than Christian Yelich. It's the whole thing

644
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: was a and you know what, but also we know

645
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: just from historically, the Gold Gloves Awards are poppy cock,

646
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: meaningless pure trash Derek g either one like what in

647
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: a row?

648
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: Not meaningless to the players, the players who care, for sure,

649
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: absolutely So that's why it's even stupid that they don't

650
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: really take that that the best players don't win them.

651
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: It's an acolade. It's something like having a goal glove

652
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: in your house probably has to be like, pretty cool.

653
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: Here's one in terms of all the true he's probably

654
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: one of the coolest ones looking one for sure, right,

655
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: like the gold glove, Yeah, the gold glove, Like everybody

656
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: sees that, and you you know the name of the

657
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: award just simply because if you were, like, don't know

658
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: anything about baseball, go that's.

659
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: A gold glove. Yeah, no matter what, no matter what.

660
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: Silver slugger like silver bat.

661
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

662
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: What about the the Raleigh's relief man. Oh that was

663
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: always my favorite. Yeah, the cy Young Award is pretty normal.

664
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: It's just a plaque with a with a guy with

665
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: a two steam grip on it. Yeahani yet I don't know, guys,

666
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: if if the Mes trade for show Hayotani, that'd be

667
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: kind of unbelievable.

668
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: Sick. I would I'd love it. I'd be really happy

669
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: to get show Tani on the New York Mets. But

670
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: is this is it really a possibility? No, but like

671
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: maybe but also no, but it could be. I don't know,

672
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: Like I wish I knew. I wish I could have

673
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: a better answer, But.

674
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: I think like the phrase killing two birds of one

675
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: stone was kind of invented for this exact moment, like, oh,

676
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: you need an ace and a lefty power bat, all right.

677
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's been a lot of trades thrown

678
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: around on Twitter recently. I won't say by who, but

679
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: they're pretty insane.

680
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: I don't think. Well, the best part of the off

681
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: season is is people trade ideas.

682
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: Trade.

683
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: Trade Twitter is fun. Trade Twitter's trade Twitters.

684
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: We're gonna do some trade talk on here, I think,

685
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: come up with trade talk and we'll come up with

686
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: a crazy trade, right if.

687
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: You guys send us some nuts ones. But it's just

688
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: like there's that one website that will be trade calculating.

689
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: My people are like, oh, look, it makes sense.

690
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: That trade that website is horrible.

691
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: Why couldn't Why couldn't we trade Jadie Davis and Luis

692
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Krame for for for Rapael Devers?

693
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: But who says no. It's the TikTok meme of the

694
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: guys like I give you rock you give me the

695
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: best player in baseball.

696
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: Also, that's the Rockies too, Yes, the Rockies. The Rockies

697
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: do for their trades. Oh my god.

698
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean I really would like show Toddy, But I

699
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: also can't really talk about it too much because there's

700
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: actual still baseball going on.

701
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter yet.

702
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean i'd like Mike Trout, Yeah, i'd like

703
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: who else would I like on this Mets team. I'd

704
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: like a lot of players. My Trout would be one

705
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: of them for sure. Orland would be good.

706
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carlos I'd be cool.

707
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: And then we'll coming back. Love that Jacob the ground back.

708
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: That'd be fun too, all of them. Yeah, bring bring

709
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: the band back together and get a couple more pieces

710
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: as well. You won't catch me complaining it's hard.

711
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: It's just still hard to really formulate these offseason ideas

712
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: because it's not it's not even possible. Once the Winter

713
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: meetings begin, then we're gonna be into it, and everyone's

714
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: gonna be into it because this is a world series

715
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: to be played. This is some real baseball, and this

716
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: is probably gonna be a pretty compelling series too. I

717
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: think it's even though I said it's gonna be a sweep.

718
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: That's mostly just because I'm I have to do that.

719
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun to say that, and I hate

720
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: the Philly so much that I'm really hoping that. But

721
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be a really really close series.

722
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: Actually, both teams will probably get more hits than like

723
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: the first couple of innings of the first game that

724
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge had. The entire FO probably will. Yeah, it's

725
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: just that's just data. That's analytics.

726
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what analytics does. See. That's why Aaron

727
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: Judge couldn't hit this past series because the analytics got

728
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: to them too much info. Yeah, too too much info

729
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, you know, too many,

730
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: too many, too many bats.

731
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: In the leadoff spot. What a historical season for him

732
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: to just go go for. In the Good Mets News

733
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: here Luis Rojas was interviewing with the Marlins.

734
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: He actually did not get the jobs skip Schuma, Shoemaker, Schumacher, Shoemaker, Schumacher.

735
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: I think it's whatever it is former Cardinal. It feels

736
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: like a Marlins thing where it's like who's a who's

737
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: a winning organization, Let's bring on one of their guys.

738
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Freeing the Cardinal. Yeah, skip Shoemaker. I don't know anything

739
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: about him as manage. He could be young, so he's

740
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: probably okay.

741
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 2: He was close to a couple of jobs last year

742
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: off season, definitely think he was close to the Padres one. Yeah,

743
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: he was.

744
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean with Bob Melvin. Bob Melvin not using Josh hater,

745
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: freaking Bob Melvin. Oh you know what, als, that's interesting.

746
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: We none of us talked about.

747
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: Today is literally the thirty sixth anniversary of Game six

748
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: ninetay six world Here there you go.

749
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: Very good.

750
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad told me that in the way here.

751
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: I was like, that's a good nugget. Been unbelievably tuned

752
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: out to Mets messano. I mean, you guys probably know

753
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: we've been unbelievably tuned. I think our Mets stuff account

754
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: has tweeted like three times. Yeah, since the Padres game ended.

755
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's hard to tweet when there's nothing going on.

756
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: And we love you guys interacting with us, but we're

757
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: not going to tweet out like absolute nonsense just surely because.

758
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: Today I was about to tweet, like, who do you

759
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: guys want to hearus talk about today? But I knew

760
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: everyone was gonna ask about like Jack the Gram or

761
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: all this crazy stuff. Like I just I didn't have

762
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: any answers for anything.

763
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: And once as soon as World Series Game four ends

764
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: and the Ashtros hoist the trophy, I'll be happy to

765
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: talk about it for hours with you guys. I will

766
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 1: be excited because it will officially be the off season.

767
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: But until then, I just don't really want to acknowledge

768
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: that the met seasons over just yet. I'm not really

769
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: happy to. I kind of just want to forget that

770
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: what happened in the wild Card And we'll see in November.

771
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: To talk about that stuff.

772
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: November next week.

773
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see in November. Next week.

774
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Our next our next episode World Series doesn't even start

775
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: until Friday. Yeah, our next episode is what November? I

776
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: don't know how many day what there? It was?

777
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: This twenty fifth November two?

778
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: Is that the day? Yeah? So, I mean the season,

779
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: the series could be over by then we could be

780
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: talking about the World Series being done. You really really

781
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: hammering that in. Yeah, of course, I'm trying to get

782
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: that going.

783
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: What's been going on in your life?

784
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: Though? If you're not watching baseball, what have you been

785
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: doing because we now have three to four hours a

786
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: day that.

787
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 2: Are just completely free. It's crazy. I'm watching a lot

788
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: of football. Yeah, do all hour from OJO there fantasy,

789
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: a lot of crazy stuff going on, a lot of

790
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: fantasy having a great season overall. I had a rough week.

791
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: I was, I mean, I was really into the Jets

792
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: are the last few weeks. Now the best two offensive

793
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: players are out for the Dame Bristol killed me in

794
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: one of my leagues killed me as a Jets fans.

795
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: It's terrible.

796
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: He's like the most exciting player we've had this team

797
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: in a decade.

798
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: He's gone. I lost a fantasyson running back too towards

799
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: acl Who knows what's gonna happen. I lost a fantasy

800
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: game this week by five points because I had Marquise

801
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Hollywood brown out for the year or whatever it is,

802
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup on am By. I had no other wide receivers.

803
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: I had three on my team. Shame on me, bad

804
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: job that happens. Patch yourself on the back. We'll do

805
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: better next time. But I had to play Josh Reynolds

806
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup and they combined for a total of

807
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: one catch eight yards.

808
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: So I lost there. You never you'd never have been

809
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: the best, the best fantasy football player.

810
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: No, I go big, I go big. I try to

811
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: I try to win with the craziest most. I try

812
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: to thread the needle perfectly every single year, and it

813
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: works like once every five years. But the other four years,

814
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm like close to dead last. That being said, four

815
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: and three in that league, five and two in another,

816
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: one in six or one in one and six and another.

817
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: That team was bad.

818
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: There we go.

819
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: There are a couple of things around the Mets world, oh,

820
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: that we should talk about before we wrap up Freshall's

821
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: that running Mauricio is actually just tearing apart the lead.

822
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: On which I feel like last year too. He just

823
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: he thrives in the Dominican Winter League.

824
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: Baby, I don't know he's he's on exciting teams. I

825
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: think he's batting next to Elie de la Cruz. Least said,

826
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: say see and those two are two three in that

827
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: batting order. Let's go to the Winter League. I'm down.

828
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean, spend a week in the Dominican I can

829
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: work remote, Yeah, I can work too, Yeah, spend a week.

830
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: That's that.

831
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I've always had like the dream, like me

832
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: and my college friends have talked about like just walk

833
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: away from it all one day and just become die

834
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 2: hard like Lee dumb fans, and just make that your

835
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: whole life. I think the I think beer baseball every day.

836
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I think s spend his barbecue every year like two weeks,

837
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: and they just they just live in the Dominican Republic,

838
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: which sounds like fun. But also I don't know, I

839
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: don't know how much Lee Doom I could. I don't

840
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: know if I can spend two weeks watching Lee Doon.

841
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: But like that, those games are unbelievably electric live, Oh

842
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: for sure, people get crazy, even like when running Riso

843
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: hidden inside the parking run the other day.

844
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: That was pretty cool.

845
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: He little sinking line drive centerfielder dove on it went past,

846
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: and he just like cruised around the bases with those

847
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: like gazelle like strives he has so weirdly when he

848
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: was round, he's fast. He doesn't move quickly, yes, yeah, yeah,

849
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 2: he's like he gets going, he's fast like a giraft.

850
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: Those drafts run fast technically speaking, when they get to

851
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: top speed, they cover a lot of ground.

852
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: The top speed is good. It just looked I'm doing it. Yeah,

853
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: but it don't look great. When Ronnie was rounding third

854
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: base on this play, the entire dugout was like jumping

855
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: over the rail like waving their arms like. And when

856
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: they were telling him to slide at home, whoever was

857
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: on base was lying down literally completely stomach flat against

858
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: the ground, just tapping the ground to show him which

859
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: way to, which way to slide to to get it

860
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: under the tag. And it worked. Yeah, it's just it's

861
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: electric factor. And I think a million one of Fossil

862
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: leads off that team he does. Yeah, yeah, I think

863
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: I said that one, two three. It's like forty twenty twenty.

864
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I think Ronnie won like Player of the Week where

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Speaker 1: they call it MVP of the week, which is also

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Speaker 1: really fun to me, and I think says our Valdez,

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Speaker 1: the dead fish pitcher throw a seventy eight mile an

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Speaker 1: hour change ups strictly, I think one picture MVP of

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Speaker 1: the week, which that's the thing. One more guy I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We were We should probably do a full like Arizona

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Speaker 2: Fall League recap next week and it's done, or one.

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Speaker 1: Week after that probably Prospect wrap up as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something we probably should have been more prepared

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Speaker 2: for but we're just we're just still like kind of

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Speaker 2: in this array from the season. Mike Vassel had a

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Speaker 2: very good start Peoria in the Fall League. Mike Vassall

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Speaker 2: has a very live fastball, one of the few low

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Speaker 2: level pitching prospects, and Mets hung on too after this

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Speaker 2: past trade deadline. University of Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I believe he was a guy who I think did

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Speaker 1: not go at to the draft out of high school

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Speaker 1: and would have been like a possible first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Went to Virginia numbers, didn't do as well, ended up

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Speaker 1: I think maybe getting an injury at some point and

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Speaker 1: he dropped, but was a really good college pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Eighth round of the University of Virginia to deal an

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Speaker 2: injury there. But your game is very live fastball. I

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Speaker 2: believe it's a Slyder's the other pitch, but it evading

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Speaker 2: me right now. And when you're when you're out there

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Speaker 2: in Arizona Fall League, Mark and I went last year.

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Speaker 2: Those are some of the best minor league talent the

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Speaker 2: entire country coming together. So having good stars here and

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Speaker 2: like proving yourself there goes a long way. A couple

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Speaker 2: of guys who we saw last year that broke out there,

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Speaker 2: logan O Hobby became one of the hottest prospects in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Was traded by the Phillies to the Angels of Brandon Marsh,

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Speaker 2: a player central to their playoff Runzgo Tavar popped off

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Speaker 2: their big time Who's the guy the Nationals? He like

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Speaker 2: to t right, yeah, because he know he wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: It was a draft pick. But we saw Colin Holderman

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Speaker 2: be co Olderman. Owen White of the Texas Rangers came

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Speaker 2: out of nowhere became a very impressive pitcher at Baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brett Baty had the great time for us. We

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Speaker 1: interviewed them there.

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Speaker 2: So whenever whenever and Andresy Meantez family broke out in

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Speaker 2: the Arizona Fall League in twenty nineteen. That was actually

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Speaker 2: the first time I ever got like know this for

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Speaker 2: a blog on Twitter, which is kind of cool. Peel Alonzo,

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Speaker 2: that's say the year before that same year, No, might

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Speaker 2: have been a year before he went there, Yeah for you,

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Speaker 2: because that was before there was a lot more like

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Speaker 2: advanced type technology in a lot of these minor league parks.

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Speaker 2: Plonso went down there and just lit up, lit up

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Speaker 2: the track man with ex crazy eggs of velocities and

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Speaker 2: I got him on the map.

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Speaker 1: So it's important to keep knowing the Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Fall League because it is a competitive league and these

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Speaker 2: guys who go there like they take there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of pride in it.

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Speaker 1: If you're a card guy, keep an eye on the

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Speaker 1: dude's playing well. It's a good way to make some

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Speaker 1: easy money. One hundred percent. But I mean, anything else

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Speaker 1: to talk about. I think we're good.

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Speaker 2: I think that's all I got for stretching.

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Speaker 1: We tried, guys, We tried to get you close to

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Speaker 1: an hour here, but I think this We're gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: up episode number one forty six of the Mets Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: a review. James, where can they find you on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: James underscore me at Giraffe neck Mark. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: guys for another episode next week. Remember every Wednesday morning

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Speaker 1: we will have episodes out for you, so weekly or

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Speaker 1: weekly podcast until something cool happens, and keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on Jay Horror, What's Best Legends podcast correct and be

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Speaker 1: on there next week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so keep an eye out for that. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, thanks for watching. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Peace peace out, guys. Get up, Get get up,