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Speaker 1: Bobo Shusen, long time radio voice the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: and a college football voice on ESPN, dan Orlovsky. Of

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Speaker 1: course you see him not only with me on football

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Speaker 1: games on ESPN, but of course across all of our

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Speaker 1: NFL coverage always the touchscreen and Scott Poli, longtime NFL

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Speaker 1: general manager, Guys, we have reached the playoffs. It is

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Speaker 1: Wildcard week. We're going to talk about some matchups coming up.

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Speaker 1: But there was major drama this past weekend with some

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Speaker 1: of the games that led us to the matchups that

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Speaker 1: we'll see this coming Saturday, Sunday and Monday. We got

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Speaker 1: a Monday night wildcard game to talk about later this week.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of fun. You'll have three days of

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Speaker 1: wall to wall playoff football. But there was probably no

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Speaker 1: higher drama game than Raiders Chargers. I mean, who with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers being woven into this intrigue, who knew how

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Speaker 1: this was going to play out. Well, ultimately it played

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Speaker 1: out with the Raiders pulling off an extremely dramatic win.

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Speaker 1: And here's what Derek Carr had to say after it

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Speaker 1: was over about all they've been through this season. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was talking mister Davis. I'm in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: and one of the things we were talking about is like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think any team has been through what we've

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Speaker 1: been through in ten years, let alone one year, you know,

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Speaker 1: and there's so much emotion, uh with uh, you'll pick

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Speaker 1: a pick a story, you know, Um, and there's so

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Speaker 1: much emotion with with everything that we've done in My

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Speaker 1: brother said it best. He said, this team was forged

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Speaker 1: in the fire, and I kind of like that. You know,

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Speaker 1: we went through some stuff, some refining, some some hard times. Um,

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Speaker 1: we locked the doors every day on Monday, and the

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Speaker 1: people that were inside that building didn't stop believing. And

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Speaker 1: it's it showed today we made it to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. Um, it's probably it's probably the coolest accomplishment

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Speaker 1: To see where we were at, everything we went through

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Speaker 1: and to still make it no record, no thing. This

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Speaker 1: was the coolest thing to see this team come together

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Well, there's an amazing, as we said,

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Speaker 1: amount of storylines coming out of that locker room for

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. And look, I mean the Henry Ruggs tragedy,

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Speaker 1: and it is a tragedy. A woman lost her life

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Speaker 1: better than me, But I think Bill Walsh was the

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Speaker 1: one who said, in order to win in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: you need multiple things. You need a quarterback and you

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Speaker 1: I think Derek Car's an underrated quarterback. Their pass rush

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Speaker 1: this game for so many reasons. Again, being a former

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Speaker 1: look at the other backstory, the locker room leadership, the players,

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Speaker 1: I think what the Raiders did in this game was

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Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz this year. This was a game they

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Speaker 1: needed to win because of Carson Wentz. All those other

431
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 1: pieces didn't play well. I need you a quarterback. I

432
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: traded a one for you for this kind of game.

433
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: I know it's not easy and I know it's not fair.

434
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: That's life in the NFL, is a starting quarterback with

435
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: those expectations, you know. And I was disappointed. And the

436
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: thing that, you know, I think I became blind to

437
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to say blind to it. Like I

438
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: didn't say that I believed in Carson Wentz just to

439
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: get a raw ra, you know, rise out of people

440
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: like I honestly did. I honestly believe that he was

441
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: in that place he was going to put it all

442
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Speaker 1: together and become great again. I think it was good

443
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Speaker 1: this season. I think it was okay in this game.

444
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Speaker 1: But the thing that is different than I guess you know,

445
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Speaker 1: my favorite quality. You guys have heard me say this

446
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. My favorite quality, and I think it's the

447
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: most important quality in quarterbacks, physical or mental, is the

448
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: ability to not panic with the football. And that's what

449
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: separates Tom for a long time, what separates a young

450
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: superstar like Joe Burrow right now Carson I don't know

451
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: if I if he has that, I don't. I don't

452
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Speaker 1: think he has that, the ability to not panic with

453
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: the football and learned it's difficult man Yeah, Like, how

454
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: how deep into your career do we need to see

455
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: that before we start to say it could still happen

456
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: or it's just not going to happen for this player. Yeah,

457
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: I think I think we're at a point where a

458
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Speaker 1: guy who's played for as many plays and as many

459
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Speaker 1: snaps as he has um. The thing that's tough about it, Bob,

460
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is like that sometimes leads to splash plays.

461
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Speaker 1: It does. Sometimes it leads to incredibly remarkable plays, and

462
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: then sometimes it leads to backbreakers. And I think we

463
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: saw examples of that this season, certainly on Sunday. So

464
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Speaker 1: um obviously an incredibly disappointing game for the for the

465
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Speaker 1: Colts as an organization. Yeah, and the tough one as

466
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Speaker 1: I watch it too, because even though we're not supposed

467
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: to and even though I worked in the league, you know,

468
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: you end up rooting for people and people that do

469
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: things the right way. And Frank ch and Chris Ballard

470
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: and honestly Carson Wentz, they're just good people that you

471
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Speaker 1: want to see their behavior, their approach be rewarded. And

472
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, you go into a game like this and

473
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Speaker 1: it's a game where you know Carson Wentz gets hit.

474
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Speaker 1: I don't know ten eleven times. He's sacked six times.

475
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Speaker 1: I think he was under a lot of duress and

476
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Speaker 1: that does affect him and affects every quarterback and for

477
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Speaker 1: everybody's sitting at home that says, well, he can't handle pressure,

478
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Speaker 1: he can't handle the hits. Well again, I always go

479
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: back to, you know, I didn't play the position, but

480
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: I was always close enough to football to see what

481
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Speaker 1: happens to people in that position when they get hit. Dan,

482
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: you lived it, and if it doesn't mess with your

483
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: mindset you're thinking, then there's something wrong with you and

484
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Speaker 1: you're not human. It's whether or not you can continue

485
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Speaker 1: to do it. And you know, I know, Dan, We've

486
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Speaker 1: been slightly you know, slightly different. On Carson. I've always

487
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: wanted Carson to be better and more than he is. Again,

488
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Speaker 1: I've seen him as an above average quarterback that has

489
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: had good games at times, and in my heart I've

490
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: wanted to see him prove me wrong and again because

491
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Speaker 1: of who he is and the way he approaches the game,

492
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: because he's such a good ambassador for the sport. He's

493
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Speaker 1: the kind of player and person that you want to

494
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: see young football players emulate and when you strip that

495
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: away and you put on your general manager hat and

496
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: you're saying, listen, we've got to be business here. I

497
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: still see him as a quarterback that is above average

498
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: and at times had good has good games. I don't

499
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Speaker 1: ever he has more good games than awful games, And

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Speaker 1: in totality, I just don't know if he's going to

501
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Speaker 1: be a guy that can. He may have an opportunity

502
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: to win a championship, I don't know if he can can.

503
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he can consistently win championship. Now that

504
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: being said, Dan, as you mentioned and Bobby you mentioned,

505
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: there were enough other problems in the game. Again, when

506
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks hit ten times and he sacked six times,

507
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: and you've got you allegedly the best running back in

508
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Speaker 1: the game and one of the best offensive lines in

509
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: the game, and you go down to play a team

510
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: like the Jacksonville Jaguars who have nothing to play for,

511
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: and you go lay an egg. It's completely totally, absolutely unacceptable. Yeah,

512
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: it was amazing to watch, and really like some of

513
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Speaker 1: the performances the Colts have had, certainly second half of

514
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Speaker 1: the season, like they went to Buffalo and ran for

515
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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy yards against one of the best

516
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Speaker 1: defenses the NFL. Their losses for the most part this

517
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: season were to playoff teams, right, They lost to the Raiders,

518
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: they lost twice to Tennessee. That's a one seed. So

519
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: they had nothing in the entire schedule leading up to

520
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Speaker 1: Sunday that would suggest that they would go out there

521
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Speaker 1: and perform like that. And Scott, I think to take

522
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Speaker 1: it a step further, I'm just curious if you're leading

523
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Speaker 1: up that day after or two days after meeting the

524
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Speaker 1: post mortem and now we're gonna get together and we're

525
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna have our come to Jesus as an organization, how

526
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: hard is it to sit at the head of that

527
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: table with all your guys there and say, guys, we

528
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: might have to admit like what we are and what

529
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is, and now what do we do? Where

530
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Speaker 1: do we go as an organization in the future. If

531
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is what you're saying, he's a decent quarterback,

532
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Speaker 1: he's average, maybe slightly below, slightly above, somewhere in that range,

533
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Speaker 1: but he's never going to be a player that we're

534
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Speaker 1: going to go out there and believe we're gonna win

535
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: championships because of now, what do we do. I've been

536
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: in this situation, right, I've been in the best of

537
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: situations that I've been in this situation and until here's

538
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: what you have to it's tell the truth, tell yourself

539
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: the truth, tell your people the truth, and understand that

540
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: you've got to do something to improve that position. However,

541
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: you can't make things up in your mind, just like

542
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: you can't lie to yourself as to what level your

543
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: quarterback is. But you can't just go out there and

544
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: make stuff up either. You know. Dan Quinn used to

545
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: have us saying, hey, don't go make stuff up, and

546
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a big part of it too. However,

547
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: you may have a plan, you create a plan, you have,

548
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: but you have to have opportunity that meets your plan.

549
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: Just because you say, oh, we have to replace a quarterback. Great,

550
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: you know again, I remember Parcels would say. I would

551
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: sit in those meetings he would have with coaches, and

552
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: coaches would complain about players and this guy's not good enough.

553
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: We got to get better here, Parcels a bit great?

554
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: Want to cut him? What's your solution? Right? You can't

555
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: double down on the problem that you have and again

556
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: we go back to this. We've talked about this a

557
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: number of times this year. There's only a small number

558
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: of elite quarterbacks in this league. And if you don't

559
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: have an elite quarterback, you have to do the job.

560
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: And there's been quarterbacks out of one that we're not elite.

561
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: And again this is not a criticism of any of

562
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: those players. Brad Johnson was not an elite quarterback, but

563
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: he won a super Bowl. He was good enough to win. Joe,

564
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't I think Joe Flacca had flashes of elite

565
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: play in moments of I wouldn't say. And we can

566
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: go through this list and find this list. So what

567
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: you need to do is build a superior team around it. Again,

568
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: I go back to two thousand and one. Tom Brady

569
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: was not an elite quarterback in two thousand and one.

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00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: He did not perform elite. He was again if we

571
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: talk about the reality, but what we had was we

572
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: had a tremendous defense. We had an opportunistic defense. We

573
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: had an opportunistic group of people on special teams that

574
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: created plays and situations and circumstances. We had Antoine Smith

575
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: who ran for I think eleven hundred yards and in

576
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: in critical time of the year and in critical moments

577
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: he knocked people out. So not everyone is going to

578
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: have an elite quarterback. You have to figure out a

579
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Speaker 1: way to build a team until you get in a

580
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: situation or a circumstance where you can get that guy. Scott,

581
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you, this is it

582
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Speaker 1: for the teams that had the elite guy's congratulations, thumbs up, awesome,

583
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: there's five of you know what, five of them, you know,

584
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: give or take one, you know, something like that. So

585
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: you got six of them. And the teams that have

586
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: the good quarterbacks that I think there's probably a you know,

587
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: ten really good quarterbacks in the league that again I

588
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: think they become great if they got great play call

589
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: or healthy all that stuff. Whatever is the question, do

590
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: you guys ever sit there and go, Okay, we got

591
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: a good guy. What's like I guess the risk analysis

592
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: the cost analysis to say we want to go chase

593
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: a great one, like we got to go chase down

594
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: trying to find a great one and move on from

595
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: the good or the really good that we win a

596
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: lot of games with. To go chase down a guy

597
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: that we win a lot of games because of yeah.

598
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: And you know, Dan, that's that is the big question,

599
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: because if you give up too much capital in order

600
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: to land that good guy from somewhere else, then you

601
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: can't build. You know, you can't build the team. And

602
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: if someone's gonna let let a great one, I don't

603
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: know how many times someone to let you know, teams

604
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: have let a great one go, which means that you're

605
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to fill your team around them, and and

606
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: you no longer have the capital. You know, Bob, you'll

607
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: understand this too. I go back to nineteen ninety eight.

608
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: I was with the Jets. We had Vinnie Testaverdie. I

609
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: love Vinnie. Vinnie is one of my favorite players of

610
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: all time. And people Vinnie was not an elite quarterback.

611
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that Vinnie had tremendous seasons that season. He

612
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: was spectacular. But what we had that year was an

613
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: incredible defense. We were smart, We ran the ball well.

614
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: We you know, we did a lot of high percentage throws,

615
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: and we had a good defense. We had an opportunistic

616
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: special teams. We made plays when we had to make plays.

617
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: But we had a very good team. I go back

618
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: to two and ten, when we were at the Kansas

619
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Matt Castle has a season where he throws

620
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: for twenty seven touchdowns only seven interceptions. Matt Castle was

621
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: not a great quarterback. No one ever said that. No

622
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: one ever believed that we were good enough. And we

623
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: had a good defense that year, we had good leadership,

624
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: we had could make up in the locker room, and

625
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: we won football games. And you know, you have that window,

626
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: you have that chance, but there has to be a

627
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: lot of other things happening around you in order to

628
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: win games. Now, Blake Spence blocked a punt mile high

629
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Speaker 1: Stadium nineteen ninety eight. We were going to the Super Bowl.

630
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: It was happening, and uh yeah, all right here, Championship game.

631
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: Seriously that year, those are the two best teams at

632
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: that point in time. And then the next year Vini

633
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: test of Everdy opening game against the Patriots, he tears

634
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: achilles yep, and then you guys left and ruined my life.

635
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: So thanks for that, appreciate it. Look, we have the

636
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: wildcard games that we're going to talk about later on

637
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: in the week, So on our Thursday edition when that drops,

638
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about all the matchups and

639
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: the big matchups coming up next weekend. But while we

640
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: still do kind of our post mortem from the end

641
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: of the regular season teams that we will not be

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Speaker 1: of Progress. Welcome back to tape heads. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: how we break the tape down of a quarterback sneak

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Speaker 1: from like close to the five yard line, but there

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Speaker 1: is a play this past week for us to break

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Speaker 1: the tape down of a quarterback sneak where there wasn't

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Speaker 1: really too many players on the quarterback sneak offense that

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Speaker 1: we're that close to the end zone. But Joe Judge,

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Speaker 1: I guess backed it up. Here's what he had to

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Speaker 1: say after the Giants called that play this past Sunday,

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Speaker 1: So we're backed up. We had a shout in the

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Speaker 1: play action get the ball out in the f Okay,

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Speaker 1: we gotta make the throw and hit the guy right there.

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Speaker 1: Eli was open. There would have been a good shot

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Speaker 1: coming off. You know the goal on there to get

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Speaker 1: us some yards and get some space and then ultimately, look,

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Speaker 1: we're backed up. I want to get room. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: push it on Ford. I wasn't gonna live through what

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Speaker 1: happened last last week in Chicago. So we're gonna give

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Speaker 1: ourselves room for the punt. We did that. We gave

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Speaker 1: ourselves room for the punt. We protected it, we covered well.

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Speaker 1: We played the field position situation I want to play.

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Speaker 1: We held them on the next drive, and that's why

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Speaker 1: we want to go ahead and play that now. We

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Speaker 1: want to do that all the time. We're backed up. No,

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Speaker 1: but that was a situation the day with where we were,

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Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that you know the

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Speaker 1: things that we had issues with last week in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: that was not going to repeat itself. He said. Ultimately

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Speaker 1: we were backed up. I don't know how. I don't

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Speaker 1: think i've ever seen a quarterback sneak called just trying

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Speaker 1: to give yourself some real estate from the end zone,

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Speaker 1: maybe past like inside the yard and a half or

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Speaker 1: two yard line. But Dan, I know you had some

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Speaker 1: pretty strong thoughts when you saw the Giants at the

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Speaker 1: end of a season. That is a foregone conclusion, and

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Speaker 1: what were they playing for call a quarterback sneak to

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Speaker 1: then punt from you know, close to the five. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's really difficult to do that to

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Speaker 1: your football team and justify the actions as a coach.

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Speaker 1: I think that in that situation, you're you don't have

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Speaker 1: many guys that are on the field that have a

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Speaker 1: ton of experience, and it is certainly in that situation.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of plays you can call that are

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Speaker 1: very safe. You can call draw, you can call just

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Speaker 1: a simple run play. You can call perimeter screen. You

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Speaker 1: could just drop back and throw it, go route to

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Speaker 1: a receiver and say, let's see what happens. Because third

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Speaker 1: and nine quarterback sneak is just sending a very clear

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Speaker 1: message to your team that we aren't trying to put

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Speaker 1: you guys in positions to play well or have the

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Speaker 1: optimum success, and we're playing not to make a mistake

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Speaker 1: rather than to win. And I think it's difficult for

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Speaker 1: a coach. I've spent my life in a locker room.

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Speaker 1: My whole life. I grew up in a locker room.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very difficult for a coach to say

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Speaker 1: These guys never did something contrary to what they said,

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Speaker 1: and they were the same person over and over, good

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Speaker 1: or bad, win or loss. And I think when Joe

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Speaker 1: Judge stands there and says, we are always going to

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Speaker 1: play as hard as we can for sixty minutes, We're

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Speaker 1: never going to disrespect the game, and we will play

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Speaker 1: to the identity of this region. And you do that

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Speaker 1: on the field, those two things don't deligne and you

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Speaker 1: guys who have spent the great majority of your life

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Speaker 1: around this game, I think the number one thing that

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Speaker 1: feeling of phoniness. And that's what that feels like now,

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Speaker 1: is just this phony. I don't want to like go

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Speaker 1: at Joe Judge here, but like this, it's hard for

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Speaker 1: me as a player to sit there and believe all

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Speaker 1: the things that you are going to say to me

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Speaker 1: when I have visual eyewitness accounts of the contrary, I've

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Speaker 1: got friends on that team that I've actually I've asked

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Speaker 1: them the question what do you think of them? And

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, like, I think the everyone,

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Speaker 1: at least the overwhelming of them have had somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a relatively positive response like nothing. No one came back.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's a joke or whatever. You know,

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Speaker 1: most of them. Again, I think everyone came back and

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Speaker 1: he's not as bad. I just think this, Scott, I

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Speaker 1: think it's really difficult to as a player, when you

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Speaker 1: you as a coach, ask and ask and ask and

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Speaker 1: say and set a standard of this is how we

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Speaker 1: are going to do things. I don't care if you're

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Speaker 1: twelve or you're thirty two, and then you the coach,

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Speaker 1: don't have your actions follow that on a relatively insistent basis.

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Speaker 1: I feel over the last five weeks, I think that's

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Speaker 1: when you just lose professionals, like you just lose them,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. Professionals are are different in a way.

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Speaker 1: I feel that way, you know, and that's I think

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to kind of walk back into that locker

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Speaker 1: room and I don't want to say, buy everything that

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Speaker 1: to do it's best for you and for the team.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Especially in football right like

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Speaker 1: this sport in particular, it is an army. The general

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Speaker 1: the right way. I think the other pro sports look,

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Speaker 1: they're coaching matters in every sport to varying degrees and

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Speaker 1: probably makes differences to varying degrees. I think the head

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Speaker 1: coach in football probably makes the biggest difference for a

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Speaker 1: franchise moving forward. And we'll see how the Giants move forward.

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Speaker 1: But that isn't for the regular season. Because we say

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Speaker 1: goodbye to eighteen teams. We've got four team that are

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Speaker 1: moving on as we say hello to the postseason. When

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