WEBVTT - Teddi Tells All! 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, Happy Hour listeners. It was another crazy week

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<v Speaker 1>here on The Bachelor, and it's so weird to think

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<v Speaker 1>that we're already know to just three women left. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>the season has flown by. I mean we're pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>almost at the finale at this point, but with hometowns

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<v Speaker 1>behind us and Fantasy Suits coming up next, it is

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<v Speaker 1>no surprise that last night's episode was definitely intense and

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<v Speaker 1>filled with surprises. And someone who knows how intense the

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor journey can be other than you and I beck

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<v Speaker 1>At is our guest today, Teddy. Yes, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so ready to talk to Teddy. I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>she was like one of the front runners since night one.

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<v Speaker 1>We have so much to go over with her. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into it and bring her on, we

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<v Speaker 1>just have to get into last night's episode. And as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you gotta kick it off with our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>fashion moments. Who I love your dance with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what my singing was with that one, but

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<v Speaker 1>just taking you up. I love the loves all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna break things down slightly differently this week, just

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<v Speaker 1>because we do only have four women and they are

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<v Speaker 1>all dressed so well. So I'm going to give just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple individual pieces that I loved versus giving out

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<v Speaker 1>a full look. So for the night portion, Gabby's black boots,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I think I'm gonna damn her today

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<v Speaker 1>and ask her where she got them from. They're amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been looking for boots like that, so I genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>want to know where she got them. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of outfit, I loved Rachel's knit black rap dress.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought she looked really cute, comfortable. She dresses so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is very flattering on her, I find, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want the net dress and I want to pair

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<v Speaker 1>it with Gabby's black boots. And then for our day look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give a shout out to Susie's pink coat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure she wore this in Vienna, but I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. It's such a beautifu color on her. And

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<v Speaker 1>Serene came in with this gorgeous cream knit sweater, some

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<v Speaker 1>gold jewelry and her lashes. Oh my gosh, did you

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<v Speaker 1>see this shot from overhead when she had the helmet on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was like a goper on their helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an overhead shot of her and her lashes

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<v Speaker 1>were like absolutely perfection, like so long. I just this

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<v Speaker 1>is the difference between you and I. You are so

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<v Speaker 1>good at pain attention to detail, and I pay zero

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<v Speaker 1>attention to stuff like that. So that is something I

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<v Speaker 1>would have never ever noticed. I was like, are these falsies?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they lash extensions? I need to know? Are these natural?

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<v Speaker 1>We can get the info from her. I want it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the info. And then for the rose ceremony,

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<v Speaker 1>Susie had a great sparkly hoop accessory, but her best

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<v Speaker 1>accessory was those Louis Vaton shoes. Did you catch did

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<v Speaker 1>I ever? That was my That was my rose from

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<v Speaker 1>last week? Yeah, she was wearing them to the rose

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony this week. I caught the little glimpse of the

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<v Speaker 1>red bottoms. I couldn't decide whose dress it lights better.

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<v Speaker 1>Gabby's a serene. Serena had this like really beautiful cross

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<v Speaker 1>back navy gown on, but I think I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to go with Gabby just because I really haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>anything like it on the show. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>House of c CB. She wears them a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>it just looks great on her. I love the cut

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<v Speaker 1>I love the color. I loved her like cheek, slick

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<v Speaker 1>back hair. So I think Gabby's gonna take the Rose

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<v Speaker 1>Ceremony look for me this week. They all, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>those four women, they all dressed impectably. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>to say though, for Teddy's nighttime look along with the boots,

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<v Speaker 1>I just loved her whole outfit, like she looked great.

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<v Speaker 1>Is definitely something that I feel like, Yeah, Gabby's I

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<v Speaker 1>would have worn like I just loved that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I hope Serena calls this out. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. Let's get into the episode, because of

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<v Speaker 1>course it was I would say the most serious part

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<v Speaker 1>on this entire season so far. Hometowns always are. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like such a game change each year when you finally

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<v Speaker 1>bring family and friends into the mix. Some of my

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<v Speaker 1>key moments I have to say, first of all, have

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<v Speaker 1>to call out Susie just with sharing her father's story.

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<v Speaker 1>That one hit home for me personally, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>just really special to hear. But I cannot not talk

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<v Speaker 1>about my favorite person who I would have loved to

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<v Speaker 1>see more in this episode, who I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see in every season, who I would just like to

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<v Speaker 1>have be in my life, part of my family. Gabby's grandpa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to give it up to the grandpa himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He was incredible. I'm already obsessed with him. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get him on the podcast. I love him so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I want him to also be my grandfather. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she told them about the sit on your face

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<v Speaker 1>joke and the grandpa was like hysterically laughing, was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you Gabby, you Gabrielle, You're just I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on? I'm obsessed with you. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>see where she gets her sense of humor. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. And like, there was one moment where

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<v Speaker 1>I think her and her grandpa sat down. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's going to be a serious conversation, but

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<v Speaker 1>they sit down and he made the comment of like

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<v Speaker 1>something like the lights of like I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with Clayton for keeping you around this song or

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<v Speaker 1>something sarcastic. That was just so fun, loving and I

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<v Speaker 1>now see where she gets it from it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just such a pleasure for me as a viewer to

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<v Speaker 1>get to know him a bit. I want more of him. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I love he was the absolute family all star of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire episode. I'm going to give runner up to

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<v Speaker 1>Susie's dad because he was also just the coolest dad,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was like, you know, I trust my daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the best judgment ever. Whatever she says, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>she wants goes. But yeah, Gabby's grandpa was the number

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<v Speaker 1>one took the cake. I will say though, And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad shitting on this moment because, if anything, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually got emotional watching it. It It was a beautiful moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But could they have hinted harder that Gabby's dad was

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<v Speaker 1>going to show up on that hometown day? Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like any chance they got it was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish my dad was here. I was like, Gavy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certain he is coming, and then they stole right

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<v Speaker 1>from love actually the whole thing. I know. One other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>um was I want to touch on Serene's hometown because

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<v Speaker 1>how the hell I feel like her brother has to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the show, right, Like we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>him on at that point. I want him. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to tea single that was well that wasn't his girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>or partner wife, right, because there was a female there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know if it was her best friend

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<v Speaker 1>or his. He was with her if you single get

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<v Speaker 1>him on the show. I don't attention to details, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I can't answer that one, but yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>overall your standard hometowns, yeah, I guess I want. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think of Rachel's dad? Um? I will say I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated him because I feel like, realistically, I know like

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to be hesitant. I'm sure if any

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<v Speaker 1>family member or a friend goes on the show, I

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<v Speaker 1>get that, and I understand, like I remember during my

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<v Speaker 1>hometowns on The Bachelor, like my uncles and my mom

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<v Speaker 1>questioned me hard, and so I appreciate him not like

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<v Speaker 1>letting the hype and this fame of the show get

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<v Speaker 1>to him at all. Obviously it was very uncomfortable for Clean,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like it could have gotten worse with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel like going in it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be way worse, and I was like, this really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that bad with his dad. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the way that him and Rachel interacted, You're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're tough, but like she loves you and doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like scared of you in any way. Like they seem

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<v Speaker 1>like they have a really good relationship and like he

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<v Speaker 1>had him at the arm at the end. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this all worked out. Did you have any

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<v Speaker 1>like really tough hometowns when you were a batch shorette? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. It was I actually had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun that week because, like, I know, it was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be so serious, but I went into it with

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<v Speaker 1>no expectations, just like wanting to be myself off and

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<v Speaker 1>have fun and get to know the families because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I might be part of one of these

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<v Speaker 1>families one day. So yeah, none of them were really tough.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them were so fun. I had such a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like one of the weeks where I actually

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<v Speaker 1>had more downtime because you're traveling so much, where I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to catch up on sleep and like relax

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more. And I loved it because the guys

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<v Speaker 1>planned the date this time, so I it was like

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<v Speaker 1>stress free for me. I didn't have to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>that I'd show up and have a good time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. I can see that as being and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's like like I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 1>could be wrong this, but I feel like the bachelors

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<v Speaker 1>always get a bit of a harder time on the

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<v Speaker 1>hometown dates than the bachelorette because you get like the

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<v Speaker 1>protective dads or just the protective parents being like, do

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<v Speaker 1>not be taking advantage of my daughter? Yeah, yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. And I feel like you just in general,

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<v Speaker 1>two the bachelors when their leads just tend to also

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<v Speaker 1>get more hate and criticism throughout the board, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not even with the family, but on social media. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just I think people are so much more harsh on

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<v Speaker 1>the men for whatever reason. And so yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I had pretty smooth sailings, so I can't complaints here.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you before we bring Teddy on though,

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<v Speaker 1>with these last four girls, did you expect Serene to

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<v Speaker 1>go home? Or who were you kind of thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>might be her? Last week? I literally have written on

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<v Speaker 1>my notes and I'm sorry this is harsh, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I wrote down. Serena is one going home?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you okay? Yeah? I was like, honestly from the

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<v Speaker 1>like the first three minutes into her one on one day,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, oh, like, I just get the vibes, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like her, and I think that they had

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful friendship and he had a lot of respect

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<v Speaker 1>and she's obviously stunning, but the romantic connection for me

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<v Speaker 1>watching with Clayton and Serene was like way behind where

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<v Speaker 1>it was with the other three women, right I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say a the very beginning of the date with Gabby,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like she might be the one going home

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<v Speaker 1>only because she is so funny and comedic all the

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<v Speaker 1>time that I was like, I wonder if they can

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<v Speaker 1>really get to the point after tonight of where they

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<v Speaker 1>should be and right away, like I think with me

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<v Speaker 1>in the family, it was there, so I knew after

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<v Speaker 1>her date, I was like, Okay, Gabby's good. So I

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<v Speaker 1>started to send Serene m but you know, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>wild cards. You truly never know going into that that week,

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<v Speaker 1>especially her date. Like activity probably I actually thought all

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<v Speaker 1>the day activities were pretty fun. They were all like

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<v Speaker 1>very outdoorsy and active and like awesome ideas. But we

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<v Speaker 1>had a Ropes course at Emma Collin and every single

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<v Speaker 1>week we were like, Who's getting the Robes Corse date?

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<v Speaker 1>Like everyone wanted to do the Robes course date and

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<v Speaker 1>no one got it. But it looked so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so fun to watch and they looked like

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<v Speaker 1>they were really enjoying each other's company. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt for her. But I think hopefully watching it back,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to be able to see that her connection

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just wasn't where she thought it was in comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to the other women. For sure. Definitely. Okay, before we

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<v Speaker 1>bring Teddy on, the weeks are changing. We are obviously

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<v Speaker 1>dwindling down. We only have three women left. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into the Fantasy suites, we actually have Women

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<v Speaker 1>Tell All that's airing next Monday, and Serena. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to see what goes down. I already know it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a wild, crazy night with all of

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<v Speaker 1>the women. If it's anything on par with this season,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be an episode that we will have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to recap on the next day. So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait for that. I can't wait either. I am

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to watch and see all of the drama

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<v Speaker 1>once again unfold. We're gonna have to load up on

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<v Speaker 1>wine for that one, I think, or a bourdown. I

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<v Speaker 1>will send you some boardown just for the Women Tell All.

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<v Speaker 1>Until then, though, we have to talk to the women

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour. She was the first Impression Rose recipient,

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody that was catching my eye since the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>who we thought was going all the way, I would say, so,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, let's bring on Teddy

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<v Speaker 1>the Happy Hour. Well, Teddy, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been wanting to get you on here for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's great to finally have you. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to start out by checking in on you. Obviously, so

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<v Speaker 1>much has transparred in these past few months since you

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<v Speaker 1>filmed and came back from filming and now watching all

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<v Speaker 1>of this season unfold. So how have you been. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing good. First of all, I've been begging to meet

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<v Speaker 1>you guys for so long because I'm happy to be here. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was a whirlwind. I just watched the ending

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<v Speaker 1>so that it was a crazy thing, coming from watching

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<v Speaker 1>that first episode where it was going so great and

0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of just watching you could say my downfall throughout

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<v Speaker 1>these next few weeks. So it's been crazy. But the

0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.800
<v Speaker 1>sport has been amazing. I wasn't really expecting that. So overall, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so thankful for this experience. How is it

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<v Speaker 1>watching yourself back? Because I mean, Serena and I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's never very fun and so I was kind of uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what is that for you? Do you hate listening

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<v Speaker 1>to your voice? Do you hate seeing every like all

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<v Speaker 1>the interactions? Um? Yeah, I say like a lot. The

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<v Speaker 1>world has not been afraid of telling me that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I also pronounce as teas and everyone is so mad

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<v Speaker 1>that I say, Clayton, I pronounce my teeth very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Like listening to my voice is hard sometimes, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think the biggest thing is watching me kiss. I like

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<v Speaker 1>completely forgot about the cameras, so watch myself. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing when you're filming but not watching it back

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<v Speaker 1>because then you're like, ah, like why are you on

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<v Speaker 1>a pool table? Yeah, teddy. The people want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what is your hair routine? Oh? I get that question

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Um. I use a brand called Inner Sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like the main thing that curly hair people

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<v Speaker 1>need to do is put their hair products in the

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<v Speaker 1>shower when their hair is still wet. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people do it when they get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the shower, but your hair has to be like really

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<v Speaker 1>like soaking wet still when you put in like your

0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.280
<v Speaker 1>leave in products. That's like my biggest tip that is

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<v Speaker 1>a good work. I actually do know, yeah, and I

0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.840
<v Speaker 1>neglect it and that is why my hair looks dry.

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<v Speaker 1>It never does. You both have great hair. But but

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're talking aboutcause when I do take

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<v Speaker 1>the time to be like, I'm just gonna let my

0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.600
<v Speaker 1>hair be drenched, dripping down my back with my leaven

0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:19.640
<v Speaker 1>products in it does um. Okay, I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>it way way back. Obviously we have seen your exit,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to go back to the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>because we saw so much of you in that first episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw your exit, your beautiful dress. Most importantly, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw you get that first impression row, So we know

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<v Speaker 1>that you made a first impression on Claylon. That was

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<v Speaker 1>definite Clayton, that was definitely memorable. Can you tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about his first impression on you? Oh yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we were both putting a lot of pressure on that Momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to feel spark right away, and I definitely did. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that he always said to me

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<v Speaker 1>was he just felt so comfortable with me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did with him too. Like that first night together, it

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<v Speaker 1>really felt like we had already known each other for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and like I think a lot of girls

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<v Speaker 1>felt that way, but our connection was just really strong

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<v Speaker 1>right from the get go. It was never awkward, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we never had like awkward silence or moments where we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to talk about. So I think we

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<v Speaker 1>both just felt very safe with each other very early on.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you this because people have mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>there's a curse with the first impression Rose. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of The Bachelor, I feel like when it's a bachelorette season,

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<v Speaker 1>they're pretty good about women's right and the guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>men are men, and there's a lot to look at

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<v Speaker 1>that first night, did you feel like at any point,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, I'm sure you were thrilled to get

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<v Speaker 1>that first impression Rose, and you probably felt so scene

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<v Speaker 1>and special, But did any part of you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little cursed or like there was targeted on

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<v Speaker 1>your back at that point that first night. No, that

0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.920
<v Speaker 1>first night when I got it, I just felt so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I really was like, I think I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 1>engaged at the end of this. But I think, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours later on that first group date, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, I don't know. I think I will

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<v Speaker 1>say there is a curse on it on the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's just a lot of pressure. You put

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<v Speaker 1>so much pressure on yourself, and I'm sure he was too,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you just feel the lows so much

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<v Speaker 1>more like we came from such a high. So then

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that next day, when he was getting

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<v Speaker 1>to know so many other women, it did just feel

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<v Speaker 1>even lower because you just felt like it was just

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<v Speaker 1>the two of you there that first night. I think

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<v Speaker 1>also it just I think he gained a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in our relationship early on with that first impression Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think because of that a little bit, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit on the back burner in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>He was getting to know the other woman, which he

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<v Speaker 1>should have been doing that, but I think at that

0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.960
<v Speaker 1>point it did just come up too late. Our one

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<v Speaker 1>on one was like really late. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>because he just was so confident in where we were at.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it just, you know, it was too late

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<v Speaker 1>for us. So then how did that feel for you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of week after week, because I'm sure after that

0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.520
<v Speaker 1>first impression Rose, you're like, oh, yeah, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>one on in my near future. At least that's why

0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I felt that way too. Yeah, So then week after

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<v Speaker 1>week you're like, Okay, it's not my turn yet. It's

0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.439
<v Speaker 1>not my turn. Did you hit a point where you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck is going on? Where's my one on

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<v Speaker 1>one day? And like how did you just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>keep pushing yourself through those group dates until your one

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<v Speaker 1>on one came later? In this yeah, I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>early on that the one on ones he was giving

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<v Speaker 1>to the girls were girls that he felt very strongly about,

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<v Speaker 1>Like right off the gate, that one on was Susie.

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<v Speaker 1>Every week it was a girl that he had a

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<v Speaker 1>really strong connection with. So I couldn't even say in

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<v Speaker 1>my head like, oh, he's just trying to get to

0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.400
<v Speaker 1>know the girls that he doesn't really like that much,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just you know, mine will come later, because

0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, no no, he started to ride off

0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the bat with a girl he had a strong connection with,

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<v Speaker 1>So it was really hard every week, and again, like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think I deserved it more than anyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think because I knew our connection was so strong,

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like, well, he should want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>time with me because it seems like we really like

0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.240
<v Speaker 1>each other, Like he would want like a one on

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<v Speaker 1>one with me at two So I was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>lose steam a little bit near the end before my

0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.159
<v Speaker 1>one on one. I think what made me continue to

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<v Speaker 1>push forward was our individual time together. He was very

0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 1>validating and I always felt good. So I was losing

0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.520
<v Speaker 1>confidence during the day portion of group dates, but every

0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.639
<v Speaker 1>night he would like validate me again, and he always

0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.120
<v Speaker 1>would tell me I just feel so great about us,

0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.560
<v Speaker 1>like our time will come, and that was kind of

0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.320
<v Speaker 1>where I continue to feel confident. My time with him

0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:31.280
<v Speaker 1>alone individually was always amazing. So I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this in hindsight, now, do you wish if you

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<v Speaker 1>had two options, do you wish you would have received

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<v Speaker 1>that first impression roles or the first one on one date? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think if I would want, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say probably the first one on one. But that's just

0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.560
<v Speaker 1>me personally, knowing my personality. I think it could be

0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.919
<v Speaker 1>different for different girls, but I didn't have like a

0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of confidence going into it. So I think week

0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.879
<v Speaker 1>by week not getting that in individual time with him,

0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it was hard to know if I could actually see

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.280
<v Speaker 1>a future with him outside of there. And when a

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.760
<v Speaker 1>girl would come back from a one on one, they

0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.200
<v Speaker 1>would be all in and I just I couldn't feel

0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that way. Because I didn't have hours to spend with

0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.400
<v Speaker 1>him at that point. So I think if I would

0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 1>have had an early one on one, I would have

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.639
<v Speaker 1>been more confident the rest of the way through, and

0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.919
<v Speaker 1>I would have been all in a lot more quickly

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like the other girls were. Yeah, I feel like ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I was just gonna ask you, Serena, when

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<v Speaker 1>did you get your first one on one with Matt?

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<v Speaker 1>I was week two? Okay, so you were so earlier. Yeah,

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.120
<v Speaker 1>so it was three and Sarah. So we had two

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.240
<v Speaker 1>one on ones our first week, and then I got

0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the one on one, the only one on one our

0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.480
<v Speaker 1>second week, so I was the third one on one

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.159
<v Speaker 1>second week. But yeah, definitely early on and like I

0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.320
<v Speaker 1>will say, like it feels as though there is somewhat

0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.879
<v Speaker 1>of an advantage, yeah, earlier one on one dates. I

0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.480
<v Speaker 1>know Abigail from my season had a similarish experience to

0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.120
<v Speaker 1>what you had where she got the first impression Rose

0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and then she actually never got a one on one

0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>day and I know that she expressed it as like

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.119
<v Speaker 1>almost to tease, because it really boosted her confidence in

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that he felt the connection that she felt, and then

0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:10.440
<v Speaker 1>every week to not get a one on one, it

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.119
<v Speaker 1>was almost like, well, I'm confused, Like it felt like

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:14.879
<v Speaker 1>a mixed signal in a way. I don't know if

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you felt exactly how I felt, and I've talked about

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.119
<v Speaker 1>it on the show. I do take a while to

0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 1>trust men in general, and I'm very big on your

0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 1>words matching your actions, and I think every week his

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 1>words being so validating and so much like I just

0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 1>can't wait until we get closer to the end, like

0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll get so much time together. I was like, well,

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you're the Bachelor, so if you want more time with me,

0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you can get it to me. So I think that's

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:39.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of where it was harder. I did feel like

0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:41.679
<v Speaker 1>he was kind of teasing me with his words but

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 1>then not having his actions match that. And again, like

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:46.240
<v Speaker 1>all the girls I got the one on ones were

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.520
<v Speaker 1>so deserving, but I just was like, you can't give

0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 1>me a one on one if you want to. I

0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>was a tech for sure. Yeah, I can imagine, I mean,

0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and just speaking from my experience, it was a little

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>bit different because I was lucky enough to get that

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.879
<v Speaker 1>very first one on one date, so I established the

0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:07.040
<v Speaker 1>most time right away. But I probably experience something similar

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.439
<v Speaker 1>to you where you start on such a high and

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you're like rolling, rolling, rolling, and then you get on

0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the group date and you're like, oh wait, but I'm

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>not the only one here, and now I have to

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.320
<v Speaker 1>watch him divide his time between other people and it's

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.639
<v Speaker 1>really difficult. It's like you're trying to move forward in

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, but sometimes in the sense, especially on group date.

0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Afterard group date, it's like you take what is this saying,

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.199
<v Speaker 1>like one step forward, two steps back. It's like you

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 1>can't quite get to that point. And especially in this

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 1>environment where like at the end of this there's an engagement.

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 1>You need to ask the right questions. I have enough

0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 1>time to get to that point. It makes it really

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.440
<v Speaker 1>difficult if you don't get that that alone time until

0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 1>later on. So, speaking of group dates, because you had

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot under your belt, you know, those first few

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 1>weeks overall, what was your favorite group date of the season.

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Definitely Houston. I love the football date, and I thought

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that was going to be the worst one that I

0:21:55.560 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>would go on. I'm not usually big on physical activities,

0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:03.920
<v Speaker 1>but it was so much fun, like getting to meet

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the NFL players and I think it was cool. There

0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>definitely was drama, but we all were not following the rules,

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and none of us knew that. Like the winning team

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that I was on, I guess we were doing things

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that were like illegal and regular football, but we thought

0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 1>we were just doing so good illegal Like I would

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>have had no idea either, And when like everything's fair, Yeah, okay,

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the rules are, they're already exactly, but whist all blow

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 1>and I would just tackle the quarterback. And then after

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I found out you're not allowed to do that, but

0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I think you're nuts. You have to wait a searchain

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 1>amount of seconds, but like blow and I would just charge.

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I would be like, yeah, I got that. Sad,

0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:40.880
<v Speaker 1>but it was so much fun because then the next

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.240
<v Speaker 1>day we were all worried, like, ah, like is everyone

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:44.639
<v Speaker 1>going to be mad at each other because we were

0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>just like tackling, But everyone was like just laughing about it.

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>It was such a fun day because that was my

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>favorite well you, and so much drama that took place

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that evening that wasn't even with anyone that was supposed

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to be on the group portion of that date that

0:22:56.400 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>night that it just took over. Um, I want to

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>get into some of the drama, but we don't need

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to harp on it because we've talked at length about everything,

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially in terms of Cheney. But did you

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:12.479
<v Speaker 1>feel like, because there was so much drama with her

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and some of the other women early on in that season,

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>did you feel like at any point that your relationship

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>with Clayton just really prevented it from developing any further. Yeah,

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Cheney never really like affected me that much. I think

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 1>for me, the biggest thing was and a lot of

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>the other girls didn't have the luxury of this, So

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I know I was lucky that I felt this way,

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.679
<v Speaker 1>But I knew that Clayton did see my personality, he

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 1>knew who it was. So I was never really that

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>concerned about Shane because I knew she was making up

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>lies about girls. But I knew, like if she ever

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>lied to Clayton about me, we had a strong enough foundation.

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>But I would have at least hoped that he would

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 1>have been able to see through it and be like,

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, that's not who Teddy is. So she never

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.199
<v Speaker 1>really bothered me in that way. But I think just

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the drama in general, I hate drama. Being surrounded by

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.919
<v Speaker 1>it did like cause me to just shell up a

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 1>little bit because she was just monopolizing the house, especially

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>near the end of it, and I think that was

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>causing to me to just kind of withdraw to not

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>like be so anxious all the time. So yeah, she

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>never really like was worrying me about if she could

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>affect my relationship, but then it was affecting me personally,

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>which then I guess was just taking so much time away.

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's like totally understandable though, because I do remember

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>feeling somewhat of a similar way where you're like, when

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>there's so much drama happening around you, even if it

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 1>doesn't evolve you, You're like, this just doesn't feel like

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a safe space. Like I feel almost nervous being like

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>totally candid and myself because like what if something is

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 1>said or done that's taken, Like I don't know, it

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't feel like if you feel like the people

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 1>that are causing in the drama and are participating in it,

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>like you almost can't trust those people. I mean, in

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Shy's case, you definitely can't trust her, But I mean, yeah,

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I get how that can create like a very anxious environmentally.

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I have a question because you just had mentioned, you know,

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>if she were to go to Clayton and spread lies

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 1>or say anything about you that you would know you

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>had such a solid foundation. And it really seemed like

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 1>she was going after anyone who, you know, potentially opened

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>themselves up to be I would say, not that they

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>were a target, but she kind of made them that.

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Like in the house, did everyone feel like, oh my gosh,

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be mean next, She's going to go to

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 1>Clayton and make these lies and tell them whatever she

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>has to say to save herself. Yeah, because it never

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>had an actual reason. Like the girls she would go after.

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>It never made sense. So I think we all were like,

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>it could be us next, because there's never actually a reason,

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Like none of the girls she went after it actually

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>there was an actual reason. It was all just basically

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>made up. So yeah, we all kind of felt like

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>my name could be next. That he that like she

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>talks to him about. And yeah, I did cause a

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 1>very anxious environment for everyone. Yeah, I would see clear

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>of her totally, super totally okay with the fact she

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>got left in great Falls. You did not have to

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 1>bring her to Avar with you, so you know, moving past,

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>say we're in Havar and you finally get that one

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 1>on one day. Were you surprised when you heard Clayton

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>say your name? Like, what was your reaction. I was

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>surprised by the time of Croatian. I really was like,

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm going to get a one on one. Yeah,

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you had resting, sad girl face by the time everyone

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>tells me that, I'm like, I know, I can't hide

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>my emotions and I was sad, so so you know,

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I was not expecting my name to be called. I

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>was so excited. I felt like that was such a

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>good week. Once I finally came, I was like, Okay,

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a good week because I already had such

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>a strong, like comfortability with him, so I felt like

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>we could really go deep and we didn't have to

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 1>worry about like small talk. So I was really excited

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 1>to get it. But I was not expecting it at all.

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I would have picked a keuter outfit, but I was like,

0:26:58.520 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting this one on one today, so I'm

0:26:59.920 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>just going to wear something. Yeah. He said the exact

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>same thing, because I guess she was a similar situation

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>where like they were like, okay, you're going right now,

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and she was like like in the car, you're on

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>you're on that night. I mean, that date just seemed

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I have to say, like you were

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>lucky about that one on one in Havar, because Croatia

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is just beautiful in general, and so the fact that

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you could just explore and just be a normal couple,

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, traveling and experience like this vacation together was

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, she's a lucky girl. But that night

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you sat down at dinner and opened up a bit

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>more about your personal life and the fact that you

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>were a virgin. How did you think he was going

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to handle that? And like how I guess I don't

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>want to say stressful, but how nervous were you or

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>how heavy was that weighing on you to share that

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>with him in that moment. It was never something that

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I've ever been really nervous about telling a guy in

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the past. I think because the day portion of our

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>date went so well, I started to gave nerves as

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the day went on, because I usually tell guy really

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>early on before I have that strong of a connection

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>with them to where I'm like, well, if they don't,

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>if this is something that bothers them, then like whatever,

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I'll just move on. But because that whole day portion

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>went so well, like we were laughing the whole time.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>It was as perfect as it could have been. I

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>was really nervous because I already at that point really

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>liked him, so I was worried what his reaction would be.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's something that I'm really open about, and

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I knew if he didn't respond well, it would just

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>have to be we would have to part ways. But

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I will say he did respond well. A lot of

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>people did get on him because he made like a

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>weird comment about like, well, you don't remind me of

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>virgin which was even me, that was really weird. Yeah,

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I mean I never wouldn't know well obviously,

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I think he took it well. He asked

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions and they were all very future

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>focused in that moment of just well, what would you

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>do differently like if we had kids, because I did

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of pressure growing up on my virginity.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>It was faith based, but it also was just you know,

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>my mom had a child at a young age, and

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>then my sister had a child at a young age,

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>so my mom was a definitely stricter with me. So

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I think we just talked about like how I would

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>do things differently as a mom. He asked like, well,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>if we have sex, Like, is your mom going to

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>hate me? So he asked me, now, my mom doesn't care.

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>These are some weird questions and he's asking, well, I'll

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>be honest. He seemed totally shocked, Like his response, right, what,

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he it sounded like you guys had a

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>good conversation, but the part they showed he just looked

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of deer in the headlights of like, oh my gosh,

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked. I didn't expect this. I don't know how

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>to respond. So I am glad to hear that he

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's not always like right or normal questions,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>so like, I'm just glad to hear that he was

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>inquisitive and asking you. How did his response make you feel? Yeah,

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I felt really like confident about it in the moment.

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I really did think that his questions made sense and

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>they were all future focused to where I knew like

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>he was taking me seriously in our relationship seriously, So

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I felt good about it. But yeah, I think it

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>did cause some concerns for him, and I wasn't I

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really expecting that I will give him credit. I

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>think there is like a stereotype of a virgin, and

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't fall under that bracket. I am very sexual

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and I like to talk about it, and I don't

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind that. I don't think that's really normal

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>for virgins at least like what society sees um, you know,

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>like you see us making out like in every episode.

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.959
<v Speaker 1>So I understand why he was shocked, but I think

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that just has to go more of like that society

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>creates this thing where like virginity equals prude, and that

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>just isn't the case. I just had a set of

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>values that I, you know, changed as I grew up.

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, why he was shocked, I think

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>guys that I dated have always been shocked. Like it's

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>never been something that a guy really would guess for me.

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>But I felt so good after that date. I really thought, like, whoa,

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I might get engaged at the end of

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>our date. So I felt really good about it in

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a moment. Well, so then moving forward, we see you

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>go on to the next week, you guys go to Vienna,

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>which also seemed incredible, and I want to get into

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>like that entire week. But since we're talking about, you know,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>your journey with claim specifically, and feeling so confident and

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that you could potentially get engaged at the end of

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>this that week, he sent you home and in that

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>moment there wasn't really much dialogue between the two of you,

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>which I also found weird. Like I thought he was

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>at least going to walk you out and sit down

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and have that conversation, because I feel like you deserved that,

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and there really wasn't much, but you had made the

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>come and like you know, I thought I was going

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to hometowns, everything that led up into this point. Heman

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>feel so confident that I was going to be one

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of these top four women whose family he would meet.

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And so where do you think that disconnect was? And

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>did you ever even have the time when he was

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>sending you home to ask him that. I will say,

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>we did get a moment that we were able to talk,

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>but I was so shocked that I didn't ask him anything.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't like wrap my head around it in

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the moment, so I didn't say anything, and I regretted

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that for like weeks after I got home. I should

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>have asked him more. But I also think he could

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>have on his own set more so, I do think

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that moment was kind of strange, especially because we had

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>built such a strong connection. A lot of it honestly

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't shown, and that just had to do with so

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>much of the drama function name andopolizing a lot of things.

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>But we were really strong and really close at that point.

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>So him kind of just giving me like a generic goodbye,

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it was really hard to take in a moment, Like

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>when he was sending me home at were looking at

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>him and it just seemed like all his feelings just

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like had vanished, and he was like, okay, well, like

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I hope you you know, you'll make someone happy like goodbye,

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, what just changed? Like we

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>were so strong a week ago, Like a week ago,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you were telling me this was perfect. He told me

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the feeling he had been waiting to feel on a

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>one on one he finally felt with me. So I

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>was completely blindsided, but I'll take some of it that

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I could have asked more, and I really regretted that

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>when I got home, But yeah, it was a really

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>weird goodbye to what you just said, Teddy Beck, I

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>really want your take on this because in my eyes,

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're the one doing the breaking up with, meaning

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>like Clayton is sending you home, I think the responsibility

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>falls on Clayton to an extent to have mentally prepared

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>for like what he's going to say during that conversation,

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to be able to give that person like closure and answers,

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>because obviously he went through it on Michelle season at

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>about the same time, and I'm sure he experienced to

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a degreat shock and I thought she did a really

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>good job of saying like, this is my explanation for

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>why I've made this decision, because like you've been in

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>those shoes. Yeah, I mean well, and I see both

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>sides because again, like I was on the Bauch Short

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and I was the Bachelorette, and like Teddy for you,

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>like when you say you felt shocked and you didn't

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>really even know what to ask, I was the exact

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 1>same way when I got broken up with by Ari,

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 1>And even during the finale when it was the first

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>time I actually sat down and talked with him, I

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>was so shocked still because I yeah, it's like what

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>do you say to somebody that's breaking up with you?

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to have to fight for your love.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's like, you deserve to

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>give me something, and but I just kind of hold

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>up and put these guards up because I was like,

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give you anything. I don't know

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>what to ask at this point. But to Clayton's credit too,

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I will say that as the lead, each week, you

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>know you have to send people home, and so you

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>have to mentally prepare to a certain extent for those goodbyes.

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm you know, if he's anything like how I

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of process things going into those row ceremonies, you

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>already know what's going to happen for the most part,

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>whether it's going to be easy or not. You already

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of know who's going on to the next week

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and who's going to be sent home. And so I'm

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>sure he had time to process that a bit, and

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that's maybe why for him it seemed like he wasn't

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>as emotional or vocal as he could have been, because

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure in his mind as man, he had processed

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it in a way which not to say like I

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>think deserved to still sit you down and have that

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>conversation and give you more. And that's something that you

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>just kind of learned as time goes, because I could

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>when I was lead, I could put myself back into

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>your position as a contestant and be like, well, this

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>is how I felt when I was blindsided, this is

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>what I would have wanted. So I tried to go

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>a bit slower and give the guys more time and

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>have those conversations, especially when you're going home right before hometowns,

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like you're going home week two or

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>week three where you don't know each other that well.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys had spent enough time together at this

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>point to get up to nearly hometowns, where I wish

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>he would have just had a bit more time and

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>respect where he sat you down and he could have

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>even just opened it up of like I can imagine

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>this is so hard for you. I'm sorry for hurting

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you asking me anything, Like even if it was that

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>where then it kind of went back to you where

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>you could just kind of process me, like what do

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I really want to know right now? But it's weird

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.919
<v Speaker 1>being on both sides and it's never easy, And even

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 1>if he had time to process it, I'm sure it's

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>still hurt him after that it's just you just at

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day kind of know what you

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 1>have to do and you know the steps that you

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>have to take. But I really do hope that at

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>least when you see him again during the tell all

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.879
<v Speaker 1>that you have the opportunity to ask him those questions

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and don't leave anything up in the air. That's the

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.479
<v Speaker 1>worst feeling, is like having the regrets and the what IF's,

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and who knows you might still have them. I know

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I do still to this day for certain situations. But

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of just know that everything that was

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>in the past and they're so much more that's going

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to be opened for you in the future. That's exciting

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 1>that you can have to look forward to. So there's

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>still a lot to come. And as you go through

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>different seasons and get to meet people in this world,

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you kind of I think it's easier for you to

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>let your guards down and ask questions and open up totally.

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that's like the biggest thing is Clayton I

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>think was just like a lesson learned for me and

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>like the best way possible. I feel like he was

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>such a good person to get those lessons from because

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>he was a safe space for me and in my

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.760
<v Speaker 1>next relationship, like I will be so much more open

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 1>and I will be a lot more vulnerable because of

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the regrets I have to see and watch week by

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 1>week with him so overwall. Like I think he did

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>like the best he could, of course, like I wish

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>we would have had more conversations, but I did get

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the closure that I needed after that, and like we'll

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.720
<v Speaker 1>see more at the Tell. So yes, well, I'm definitely

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>so excited to see the Tell next week. I mean,

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely going to be in time. Can we just

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>take it back a little it because I know we're

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.479
<v Speaker 1>going to see this at the Tell, and I would

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>love to get your take on it the Mara and

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Sarah dramas. Please tell me what you think, because there

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>was just so much that unfolded in such a short

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>amount of time. And obviously we saw you at Gabby

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and Rachel speak on it with Clayton directly. Did you

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 1>have a side that you were on? Were you on

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>nobody's side? I mean, you're also one of the younger

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>women in the house. How did Mara's comments resonate with you? Like,

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to know it all. I was really shocked

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>by the Mayor and Sarah drama like that wasn't looming

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>at all when it just happened that week. I was

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 1>very surprised. And at that point me and Sarah were

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>good friends. Me and Rachel and Sarah were hanging out

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot in like the beginning of the show or

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the weeks, so I was really surprised by that. I

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>remember when Sarah came back with the Rose and she

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of confronted all of the girls there, and Mara

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 1>said that it had to do with age. That part

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 1>was hard for me to listen to because I don't

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>think age really has much to do with it. We

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>all kind of move in life differently, and some things

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>that I experienced at a young age, someone else might

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>not experience late until later in life or never have

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to experience. So I think we all grow and mature

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in different ways. So I don't think age has anything

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to do with if you're ready for marriage. I mean,

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>child brides I do not support, but young I don't.

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that like a twenty three year old

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>cannot be ready for love and commitment with one person.

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So I guess when I had to do with the

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>age portion of the argument, I would have been on

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 1>sarah side. I think Mara had other arguments as far

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:39.280
<v Speaker 1>as confidence and words and things that Sarah was saying.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of more where I might have

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>been more on Mara's side, and we see that kind

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>of come into blow in Austria, and that was kind

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of where me, Gabby, and Rachel ended up going to

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Clayton about it. So I wasn't really on a merit

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>or Sarah side as far as like Croatia went, but

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>as far as age went, I didn't agree with that,

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>but I think Maya did make good points because a

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of the girls in the house were starting to

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>get really uncomfortable with the things Sarah was deciding to

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>divulge to them. So yeah, Austria was definitely hard. I

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think any of us. I was not planning and

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I was not going to say anything to Clayton. It

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>was kind of something that I think the girls had

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>been talking about for a while of kind of pushing

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>me and Rachel to say something because we were the

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>ones that had most of the experience with Sarah at

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that point, and I remember telling them like, I'm not

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:37.280
<v Speaker 1>going to say anything, Like I don't care if Clayton

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>says specifically, like, what is Sarah doing? Like, I will

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 1>not say anything because to me, at that point, I

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>had realized that she was not telling the truth about

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>some things, and it made me realize, Okay, we might

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>not have a friendship, and as far as a friend goes,

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how great of a friend she is.

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>But I still don't think I can judge how great

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of a wife she would be. I don't think those

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>really correlated us far as what she was doing. I

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 1>think like what changed was when the therapist brought it

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>up and called someone performative. That's kind of where it

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>changed where I felt like, okay, like we kind of

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.280
<v Speaker 1>have to now say it to Clayton if he's asking.

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't just sit back and not say anything, because

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that's not really fair to Clayton at that point because

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 1>he's just going to be running through his head right

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>before hometowns, like is one of the girls I just

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>kept not here for the right reasons. So yeah, we

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>did to end up going to him about it, and

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't regret doing that. I think it made sense

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>at the time, and I think he needed to be

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>aware at that point because a lot of his strongest

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>girls there had all kind of had feelings of wanting

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to leave and it had to do with the thing

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Sarah was telling them that weren't actually true. Well, I

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you this because you had just mentioned,

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>like the drama between Mirror and Sarah wasn't really looming

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 1>until you got to Vienna, right, like that's when it

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:02.720
<v Speaker 1>really exploded. But it seems like really things were looming

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 1>with Sarah, whether it's with stuff she was divulging to

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 1>the group and saying to you guys behind closed doors,

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that seems now looking back in piece and everything together,

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that that was looming more since the beginning and like

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>very early on. And so at any point, like this

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 1>is a two part question, I want to ask, at

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>any point did anyone confront Sarah any earlier that we

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 1>just didn't see it air or do you now wish

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you've chatted with the other women about this too, like,

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>does anyone wish they would have confronted her earlier so

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to blow up and get to the

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>point that it did. And really, I mean, because it

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds like she made y'all feel like shit and it

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>really rocked your relationships and like wanting to be there

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>at certain points. I think that that was a consensus

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 1>of the group. So do you does anyone wish they

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 1>would have called her out earlier totally to answer a question?

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>As far as I know, no one confronted her earlier,

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:52.839
<v Speaker 1>and I wish that we would have. I think the

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>hard part was is she would go to us all

0:42:55.719 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>individually and off camera. So she would start it by saying,

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, because we are so close, I want to

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>tell you. What he's saying is that you can guard

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>your heart. So when you're phrasing it like that, like

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you just don't having a friend coming and talking to you.

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Is this like late night bedroom chat. Yeah, it's like

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>to each other's rooms at night, like not really supposed

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to be doing that. But she would phrase it as

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>being your best friend. And I am very naive to that.

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I love having a lot of friends, and I was.

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I was thankful on the moment because again, like I

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>did want to guard my heart, and when someone's phrasing

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it in a way that they're doing it to be

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>your friend, I didn't feel like that was something I

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>should tattle or tell someone talk about to someone else.

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>But she would do that to everyone, but none of

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>us knew because none of us were talking about it,

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>because we all thought she was just going to us,

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>just us and just as our best friend, but really

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>she was doing it to every person that had a

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>strong relationship with him. So I didn't feel in the

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.359
<v Speaker 1>moment like there was anything to confront because I thought

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>it was coming from pure intentions. Looking back, I think

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>we all wish we would have by week two, after

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>she got her one on one, confronted her in that moment,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't know that it was it was happening.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>We didn't think there was malontinet in the moment. It's

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 1>so interesting in hearing everything back now from you women,

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 1>because they're, like you said, there's so much I think

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that everyone missed, Like I can't even imagine being in

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.359
<v Speaker 1>your position and piecing it together with everyone else. But

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it just seemed like and again like I don't know

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Sarah that well. We've only got her on the podcast

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 1>once and I hosted the date with her for two

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 1>seconds and basically made her get down in turn her

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 1>under her. But but it seems like from everything she

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>was saying and doing too well, it just it's so

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>manipulated totally. And I think, like one thing that I

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>want to clear up is it wasn't that she was

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>making us insecure in our relationships with things that were true.

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>It was just the fact that it ended up not

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>even being true. And it wasn't things that we were asking.

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like we were saying, can you tell us

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>what Clayton is telling you? It would always it is

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>just her starting the conversation and her saying, hey, I

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>want to tell you as your friend. I think that's

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>where it got difficult was where we found out that

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the things she was saying we're not actually true. So

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>there were some things that she would say that made

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>me feel I mean, I'll just say and I think

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>this was said in an episode. It was. It was

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the strongest relationship. She went to me individually, Rachel individually,

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Gabby individually, and Susie individually. And we all had times

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>since week two that we all felt like, I don't

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>know if I should stay still because if he's telling

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>her these things this early on, why am I here?

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 1>And why am I sharing things about my family? Why

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 1>am I sharing myself? If he's already made his decision.

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And again, he wasn't saying those things, but we didn't

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>know that, So I think that's where it was hard

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.320
<v Speaker 1>of I still in that moment you seem an episode

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>being like, well, I just don't know if she knows

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>what she's doing, But I think she did, because it

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just oh, maybe her perception was different than reality.

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>She thought that she was the strongest relationship, because I

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:07.760
<v Speaker 1>think we all thought we were the strongest relationship because

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>we don't see his conversations with the other girls. But

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it was just actually the things she was

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>saying were false that there can't really be pure intentions

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>behind that when it's actually lies that we're being told

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to us. Yeah. Yeah, it was like she was just

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>like throwing out her feelings for Clayton at breakfast to

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the ground like it was intentional, it was targeted to

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>specific women, and it was and it was consistent. That's

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the thing. It wasn't just like a one and done

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>situation watching everything back now being part of the Woman

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Tell All and just you know, kind of putting a

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>boat on this chapter in your life watching everything, Is

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>there anything that completely shocked you that you wished you

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 1>would have addressed that just like you were blown away

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 1>when you saw or hurt it. I don't think so.

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I think it honestly was just good closure

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 1>watching back because again I thought I did have the

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>strongest relationship just from my inner actions with him, and

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>watching it back it was it was honestly good to

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>see that he had a lot of other strong relationships too,

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and it was good closure for me to realize, Okay,

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe this girl actually does make more sense for him,

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>or maybe this girl did bring out a different side

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>of him that I didn't. I think the drama in

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 1>general just shocked me because I kind of stayed out

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of it. If I heard someone raise their voice, I

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>would run in the other direction. So a lot of

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the drama was shocking. To see a lot of Shane's

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>interviews that you know, none of us saw in the moment,

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>those were completely shocking. There's so much you miss when

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not with the person in the interviewal like they

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>can really, as we've learned, spew whatever they want to

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 1>spe you out, and so like, what was that like

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.720
<v Speaker 1>for you? And all the women hearing that? So crazy?

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>And I'll say for me and I do regret this.

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Me and Susie, the were girls that really were honestly

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of trying to argue Shane's point of view. I

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>was completely on the other side the whole time because

0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>she was targeting my friends and I knew them. I

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:02.320
<v Speaker 1>knew that shee was saying wasn't true. But I also

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 1>never want someone to feel ganged up on, so I

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 1>would try to be the voice of reason for Cheney

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 1>of maybe this is actually what she's meaning to do.

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 1>So I think watching those interviews back and saying, oh no,

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 1>she really was just playing all of us. She really

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 1>came off, at least when I was around, is like

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>very like meek and like quiet, and she would be like,

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like I'm just sorry, like I just

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>feel bullied, and then instantly we would see in an

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 1>interview like I just checked all of those girls. So

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>it was hard to watch just because I I was played,

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and that's something that I guess I got played a

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:40.959
<v Speaker 1>lot during the season with some of the girls. But yeah,

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>she was the most shocking for sure. Those interviews were crazy.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>None of us were expecting that, Like we knew Cheney

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>had some issues and she was kind of crazy, but

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 1>her interviews were a lot worse than I think any

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 1>of us were ever imagining, right, Yeah, I had Queen

0:48:55.360 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Victoria my season, so I can definitely saying shocking interview.

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't get me wrong, she is a shocking

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>person all of the time in and out of interviews.

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>But some of the things that I remember saying, I

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, whoa Victoria? Where did that one come from? Overall,

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>now you've lived the season of the Bachelor, there's, like

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, there's so much more to come. But ultimately,

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like now going through this, ye saying journey, But going

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.399
<v Speaker 1>through this journey, how has it changed you and just

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 1>your outlook or approach to finding love in the future. Yeah,

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's changed it so much. I think

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>while I was there, I never wanted to be completely

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>honest of my feelings, especially it had to do with love,

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.439
<v Speaker 1>because I felt like, once you say that, you can't

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>take it back, and once you say that, that's when

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the pain happens. But I think I realized, no, you're

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.439
<v Speaker 1>going to feel pain either way. When I went home,

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I had to deal with heartbreak. Plus the fact that

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I did regret not being completely honest about how I

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 1>was feeling. I always felt like I had more time

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>with him, and I wanted to wait for these perfect moments.

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest lesson that I learned was you

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.720
<v Speaker 1>just have to create a perfect moment with the person

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 1>that you're with. I'm a lot more open to love

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 1>now because of this experience, and I am a lot

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>more just able to feel what I want to feel.

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a lot more courage and power

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and being vulnerable and just like wearing my heart in

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>my sleep more than I feel like I have in

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the past. I love that those are great words, and

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I love that you just said it's about you creating

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.400
<v Speaker 1>that right moment. You know no one else or a

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>show can't necessarily do that for you. I think there's

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:34.919
<v Speaker 1>so much power in those words. YEA, yeah, I think

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that's something I learned as well, is like it's not

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 1>always about like where you are or what you're doing,

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like whatever feels like the perfect moment for you,

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 1>and like when you feel ready, which is something I

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>learned on Paradise. Would you go to the beautiful beaches

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of Mexico this summer if you were asked, Yeah, I'll

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>say I think I completely believe in this experience. It

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:04.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out for me on the Bachelor. But I

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 1>fully believe that if it's the right person, that this

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 1>can work. And I think especially Paradise, you spend so

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:14.319
<v Speaker 1>much time with the person that you're with m I

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>think if the Bachelor ever calls even asks you to

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>do something, I think you should say yes. Obviously think

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 1>about it, but I'll just say yes if if I

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 1>am offered it, I think there's a good chance that

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I would go yay, Yeah, I'm getting a direct answer

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>when we asked that question. How sometimes people don't know well.

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:34.359
<v Speaker 1>And I will see this coming from somebody who said

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:38.800
<v Speaker 1>no to Paradise for a long time before I actually

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 1>said yes, say yes. It is so worth it if

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 1>you're talking to two D. But I will say this,

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>going through The Bachelor, Bachelorette, and Paradise. Out of all

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>three of those seasons, Paradise was by far the most fun,

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 1>like the most fun, like, you know, I'm so lucky

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:02.959
<v Speaker 1>to have found Thomas and lasting love. But even just

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the scenario that it's co ed, you have equal male

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and female, and the food's great, the weather's incredible, Like

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:12.839
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's so worth it. If you can go,

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I would definitely say go which now, if you do

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>go give me, don't don't hold back. Give me two

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to three guys that you would really want to see

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 1>on that beach. Okay, I'll say, first of all, I

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:34.280
<v Speaker 1>haven't met any of them in person. No, yeah, okay,

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>well okay we have. We do know that somebody and

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to give it away. Somebody special did

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 1>slide into your DMS that you talked about on Tell All.

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>But apart from that, yeah, who's der DMS? No em, Yes,

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I asked rod the same question a couple of days ago.

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say no one sletting it ms, which might

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>be a live but I'm eve at that. But I

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:04.240
<v Speaker 1>will say my three guys that I'm interested in. Um,

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm very big on personality, and like again, like I've said,

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like my first initial reaction that I have to someone

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 1>in person is really important to me, So I am

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 1>open to anyone when I get there. Um, but right now,

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the guys that I am interested in would be Um

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Spencer. I've heard really great things about Brandon and

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 1>then back in the day Ben Fromtatious Season. Um. Okay,

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:37.239
<v Speaker 1>those who I'm interested in. I also just met Rodney

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>A couple of days ago when he's very keel. So

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I love Rodney. Oh my gosh, I could see this,

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I will say. So I'll be on tour with both

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Rodney and Andrew, so I'll get a feel for them. Yeah,

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet them for you and let me I think.

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I love I love that you throughout names like get it, Teddy.

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like myself I didn't know who I actually

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to me, like I genuinely that was my honest answer,

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I had no idea. But I feel like if

0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I did have names, I would not have been confident

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to be like I can't let the world know that

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:10.479
<v Speaker 1>I have as so good for you? Like that takes

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 1>confidence and I like it. Well yeah, and it's like

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone has somebody that catches their eye, whether it's on

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.839
<v Speaker 1>the show or not. And so I hate when people

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.399
<v Speaker 1>play coy's like you could spew on anyone's name from

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>about Yeah, you're not asking them to marry you. Okay,

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 1>one more question, Teddy? What is next for you? You know,

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 1>we know, maybe Paradise is on the horizon, fingers crossed.

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I would personally love to see you there, but right now,

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 1>what are your next steps? I'm just gonna enjoy watching

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the season. I'm so excited to not

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>see my face on TV for a little bit and

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>just watch my best friends get back to work. I'm

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a nurse, so I'm going to start working. I get

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe go to the gym now that I'm going to

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.399
<v Speaker 1>be on Paradise. Yeah, girl, I was not invited yet,

0:54:56.440 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 1>So Okay, I'm sure that call will be coming very soon.

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I have no doubt that I will reach out to

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I think just like enjoy my time. I made so

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:07.880
<v Speaker 1>many friends. I truly, I think this is so cliche,

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 1>but I made friends that I really believe I will

0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>have forever. And I'm just excited to get to hang

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:14.399
<v Speaker 1>out with them in public and just really like root

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 1>for each other. It was so fun at the tell

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>after we just have like a giant slumber party. So

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just excited to be friends with each other and

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 1>like just root for each other in public. And yeah,

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just happy for my life right now. So I'm excited.

0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Well, I'm happy for your life too.

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.719
<v Speaker 1>There's so much wonderful fun things to come. I can't

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:36.400
<v Speaker 1>wait to hopefully see more of Miss Teddy. Okay, before

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:39.399
<v Speaker 1>we let you go. We play our Bachelor Superrelatives game,

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's basically rapid fire. Serena and I are going

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to ask you a most likely to question, and you'll

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 1>just finish the sentence with one of the women that

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 1>was on Clayton's season. So to kick it off, out

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of everyone on Clayton's season, who was most likely to

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>get the party started? Oh, probably Genevieve. All right, who

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>is most likely to get the ladies laughing? Gabby for sure?

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 1>She is absolutely hilarious. What you see on TV is

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>her in real life. She is hilarious. I love Gabby.

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, man, I don't know. I mean, obviously we

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:13.480
<v Speaker 1>know she makes it to top three. I don't know

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>who makes it all the way. But I would also

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>love to see Gabby on Paradise. I feel like she

0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 1>would be fish. Yeah, okay. Who is the best cook? Oh?

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I never really ate anyone's cooking. I

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 1>think Elizabeth made a lot of food for people, though,

0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 1>so I'll give it to her. I think people have

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 1>mentioned her two yeah, her and Kate. Who is the

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>first person to wake up in the morning? Oh, I

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know who would wake up early in the morning.

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I was usually asleep. Susan got up the latest

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 1>as though, I can say that even after my own heart.

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Who was miss congeniality? Oh, I would say Susie. Who

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 1>had the best smile in the house? Um? I love

0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Rachel's smile. It's so sweet and like, yeah, I would

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 1>go with Rachel. Okay, best dressed? Oh Eliza, Yeah, she

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>had a great Serene she had a really she had

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>really good dresses. Yeah. Did um did Hunter go home

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in Serene's night one gown? I want to be surprised.

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 1>We were switching dresses around every week. Gabby's first night

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>dress I think was worn like four times. Yes, I

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 1>think I've seen the photos on Instagram. Everyone wearries the

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>same dress. Oh my god, yeah I saw it. Serrine

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely wore that like two weeks ago. Yeah, I love it.

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I love that you guys are all sharing clothes. Who

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest gossip m m Probably Shane in her interviews? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Who's most likely to see Clayton during the Oh? Wait, okay,

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:03.440
<v Speaker 1>who's most gay the Seal clan? First at a cocktail party? Um,

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 1>she didn't make it far, but Cassidy definitely was the

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 1>one that liked to get gone first. Yeah, oh yeah,

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 1>go started in the middle of my question. It was

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the first to go to bed. Oh. I liked to

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of sleep. So me and Susie were

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>in the same room in the mansion, and we both

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>would be in beds, like looking across from each other, like, well,

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 1>everyone else was up staying in late. Wait what room

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 1>were you in? I was in one of those smaller rooms,

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 1>so we had like a really good room. It was me,

0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Rachel um Serene, Susie Mara. I'm leaving someone out and

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to be happy. But did you get

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>assigned your rooms in the mansion? Yeah, yeah, we couldn't,

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 1>but it worked out perfectly because I became close with

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like all of them. Yeah. I was in the big room,

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 1>which obviously had the most space, but like, I don't

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 1>know what it was. Somebody brought seven suitcases and there

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>was no extra walking room in there. So for like

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the two weeks, two or three weeks we were there,

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 1>it was amazed. I would like have to tiptoe around. Yeah,

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm saying. Molina was in my room too,

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and she brought like seven suitcases and we were in

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the small room. Oh god, it was you couldn't walk anywhere.

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 1>We would be stepping on everything. Did anyone keep their

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 1>luggage out on the balcony? Yes, okay, that's what we

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 1>did too on the season. Imagine I mean the girl

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 1>who brought seven suitcases and going home night one like

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>that would just be so hurt break well. That was

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like one of the girls in r season. I love her.

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Her name was Lauren Schler. She is still a dear friend.

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 1>She's incredible. But she brought seven suitcases and went home

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:40.760
<v Speaker 1>within the first week. And and she and selfishly she

0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:42.880
<v Speaker 1>had bluckily left some stuff because she went on on

0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 1>one and one and got some home. So she left

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:48.560
<v Speaker 1>like these this really great swimsuit, this really wonderful jean jacket,

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 1>which Lauren, I still have your jean jacket to this day.

0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's in safe keeping. Um. But yeah, that's the

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 1>one thing I will say about that's different from like

0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Serena when you were on the season, when you had

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:03.040
<v Speaker 1>like your separate room. Oh yeah, just me and Rachel

1:00:03.120 --> 1:00:05.800
<v Speaker 1>in like a gorgeous room with like a bathroom with

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:11.240
<v Speaker 1>a double sink in a bathtub in luxury. That's what

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 1>people who tried to hot wire the TV. It did

1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>not work. Like people get so excited about being in

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the mansion because obviously it's iconic, but what they don't

1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:23.760
<v Speaker 1>realize is there's zero extra room for anything, especially at

1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the beginning when there's so many women. It's it's crazy town,

1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:30.480
<v Speaker 1>which I guess is a good segue into the next superlative.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the messiest? I would have to say Malina,

1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 1>just because she was in my room. Her hair and

1:00:35.840 --> 1:00:40.720
<v Speaker 1>her suitcases were everywhere, But I love her, Okay. Who

1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 1>is most likely to be found lounging by the pool? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably Gabby. She loved to just not do anything and

1:00:47.080 --> 1:00:48.960
<v Speaker 1>just lay by the pool. But like, can someone bring

1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:54.320
<v Speaker 1>me a drink? Everyone is Gabby for that one, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Who and you can give us a couple names because

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<v Speaker 1>I know one is tough for this one. But who

1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:01.120
<v Speaker 1>is most likely to be a brides made in your wedding?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'm gonna have a long line of

1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:10.040
<v Speaker 1>people because I just love everyone from my season. I

1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:13.120
<v Speaker 1>would say the girls I got extremely close with. Definitely Rachel,

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely Hunter, Um. I got really close with Jill and

1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay Serene. I love so much, so you'll have a

1:01:23.480 --> 1:01:28.400
<v Speaker 1>big party. Yeah, I have a huge bridal party, all right, Teddy,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been so fun before we let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a little tradition here and Baucher Happy Hour,

1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:35.680
<v Speaker 1>which we all go and share our rose and our thorn.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll kick it off. I'm gonna do just for

1:01:39.400 --> 1:01:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the week that I watched. But you can do because

1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you experienced so much, you can do overall your rose

1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and thorne of the season. Okay, so my rose of

1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the week during Hometowns, it has to go to Gabby's grandpa.

1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I want him, like I said, to be my grandpa.

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<v Speaker 1>He is incredible. He gets all of all of my

1:01:58.440 --> 1:02:02.320
<v Speaker 1>roses for the entire season, and I am obsessed with him.

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<v Speaker 1>My thorn is going to be the fact that Clayton

1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:08.080
<v Speaker 1>sent one of the best stressed women home. I really

1:02:08.120 --> 1:02:09.840
<v Speaker 1>like Serena. Was sad to see her go, and I'm

1:02:09.840 --> 1:02:13.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna miss seeing all of her incredible outfits. I know

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<v Speaker 1>she's a good one. Okay, my rose, I have two

1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:20.520
<v Speaker 1>roses this week. My first one is watching Clayton trying

1:02:20.560 --> 1:02:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to jump off that really tall platform and like watching

1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:26.800
<v Speaker 1>him like hype himself up, you like, come on, Clayton.

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<v Speaker 1>It was absolutely hysterical and I could watch that on repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my second one is Rachel's the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>her hometown. Clayton's coming towards her and she's like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hype him up to do the run jump hug

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<v Speaker 1>thing and she's like, are you gonna do it? Are

1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do it? I've never seen that before. I

1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:49.040
<v Speaker 1>thought it was so funny. She's so cute. And then

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<v Speaker 1>my thorne of the week is going to be them

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<v Speaker 1>not miking up Gabby's dad and just having him hold

1:02:57.160 --> 1:03:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Q cards with writing. I was so f straighted watching

1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that whole scene because it was so beautiful. But I

1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:07.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted him to speak to his daughter, like using his voice,

1:03:07.480 --> 1:03:10.600
<v Speaker 1>say anything anything at all, literally hello, I love you

1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:12.720
<v Speaker 1>at the end. It would have been perfect. I would

1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:16.240
<v Speaker 1>say My rose was just probably the friendships that I made,

1:03:16.280 --> 1:03:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and honestly a lot of the stuff that just couldn't

1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:20.920
<v Speaker 1>be shown because it's only a two hour episode every week.

1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:22.880
<v Speaker 1>But the girls got so close, Like we would have

1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:26.720
<v Speaker 1>dance parties every night, we just sat around, we would

1:03:26.760 --> 1:03:30.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about our childhoods and like we would just comfort

1:03:30.200 --> 1:03:32.080
<v Speaker 1>each other and cry with each other. So I think

1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:34.520
<v Speaker 1>just those moments that probably weren't really shown on the show,

1:03:34.520 --> 1:03:38.040
<v Speaker 1>of us becoming real life best friends while we were

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<v Speaker 1>there is my rose. My thorn is probably maybe just

1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:47.520
<v Speaker 1>being a little bit naive to some of the girls

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<v Speaker 1>and just allowing myself to be manipulated and then just

1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:56.040
<v Speaker 1>not allowing myself to fully be open and honest about

1:03:56.080 --> 1:03:58.720
<v Speaker 1>my feelings. But I think it was just a lesson learned,

1:03:58.720 --> 1:04:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited for the few you're getting to just

1:04:01.920 --> 1:04:05.200
<v Speaker 1>tell anyone that I love them right away. Well, we

1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:07.720
<v Speaker 1>are excited to see what your future holds. Study It

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<v Speaker 1>has been such a pleasure having you on. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. And like I said earlier, I hope

1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:15.600
<v Speaker 1>we see more of you in a very special, warm

1:04:15.640 --> 1:04:20.439
<v Speaker 1>place one day. Yeah, you take care of Teddy. Thank you, Eddie.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so sweet, I have to say. I mean, we

1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:27.080
<v Speaker 1>did not see nearly enough of her on camera throughout

1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:30.560
<v Speaker 1>this season, but from everything that I've heard from people

1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:33.560
<v Speaker 1>who know her, from the contestants to the producers, they

1:04:33.560 --> 1:04:35.520
<v Speaker 1>all have nothing but sweet, sweet things to say about her.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so glad we're finally finally able to have

1:04:37.920 --> 1:04:41.560
<v Speaker 1>her on. Yeah, I like Teddy so much. This was

1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:45.080
<v Speaker 1>such a fun interview to do with her, and I

1:04:45.120 --> 1:04:48.320
<v Speaker 1>am really hoping we see her in Paradise this season.

1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I just get a good feeling

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<v Speaker 1>about her time and her journey there, and I just

1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:56.920
<v Speaker 1>love love and I want everyone from this season to

1:04:56.960 --> 1:05:00.919
<v Speaker 1>find it firmly on a beach in I know, well,

1:05:00.960 --> 1:05:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like you said, I mean, we're we might be a

1:05:02.680 --> 1:05:05.400
<v Speaker 1>little biased to the beaches of Paradise, but yeah, don't

1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:07.800
<v Speaker 1>be right. Sucks most days, but then it ends up

1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:11.160
<v Speaker 1>so magical. I loved it, I know, I mean that

1:05:11.240 --> 1:05:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I have different feelings towards Paradise. I was also very

1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like downplaying and now I was so anxious the

1:05:18.960 --> 1:05:21.160
<v Speaker 1>entire time, Like I'm making it seem like it was

1:05:21.200 --> 1:05:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the best month of my life. It truly wasn't. But

1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:27.080
<v Speaker 1>looking back now, I'm nothing but fond memories. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really hope she and other deserving people from the past

1:05:30.240 --> 1:05:33.680
<v Speaker 1>seasons can go and experience that as well. Such a

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure to have Teddy on. There's a lot that goes

1:05:36.560 --> 1:05:39.440
<v Speaker 1>down during Women Tall All. I mean, you guys, you

1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:44.160
<v Speaker 1>will truly not want to miss this. So many shocking moments,

1:05:44.160 --> 1:05:47.160
<v Speaker 1>so many shocking things that were said that like even

1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:48.720
<v Speaker 1>for me, who I feel like I've seen and done

1:05:48.760 --> 1:05:52.000
<v Speaker 1>everything in this franchise, Like I'm still blown away by everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So please make sure you tune in next week. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a different week, so Monday will

1:05:56.400 --> 1:06:00.320
<v Speaker 1>actually be Women Tall All and then Tuesday will be

1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Suite. So we have a lot to cram into

1:06:03.760 --> 1:06:06.960
<v Speaker 1>in these next two weeks before the finale. But Serena,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you again for joining me today. It was so

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<v Speaker 1>much fun and a huge thank you to all of

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