1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy Hour listeners. It was another crazy week 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: here on The Bachelor, and it's so weird to think 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: that we're already know to just three women left. I know, 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: the season has flown by. I mean we're pretty much 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: almost at the finale at this point, but with hometowns 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: behind us and Fantasy Suits coming up next, it is 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: no surprise that last night's episode was definitely intense and 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: filled with surprises. And someone who knows how intense the 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Bachelor journey can be other than you and I beck 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: At is our guest today, Teddy. Yes, I'm so excited. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm so ready to talk to Teddy. I mean, obviously, 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: she was like one of the front runners since night one. 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: We have so much to go over with her. But 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: before we get into it and bring her on, we 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: just have to get into last night's episode. And as 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta kick it off with our favorite 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: fashion moments. Who I love your dance with that. I 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: don't know what my singing was with that one, but 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: just taking you up. I love the loves all right. 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna break things down slightly differently this week, just 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: because we do only have four women and they are 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: all dressed so well. So I'm going to give just 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: a couple individual pieces that I loved versus giving out 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: a full look. So for the night portion, Gabby's black boots, 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think I'm gonna damn her today 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: and ask her where she got them from. They're amazing. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: I've been looking for boots like that, so I genuinely 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: want to know where she got them. And then in 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: terms of outfit, I loved Rachel's knit black rap dress. 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: I thought she looked really cute, comfortable. She dresses so well. 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Everything is very flattering on her, I find, so yeah, 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: I want the net dress and I want to pair 33 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: it with Gabby's black boots. And then for our day look, 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: I'm going to give a shout out to Susie's pink coat. 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she wore this in Vienna, but I 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: loved it. It's such a beautifu color on her. And 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Serene came in with this gorgeous cream knit sweater, some 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: gold jewelry and her lashes. Oh my gosh, did you 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: see this shot from overhead when she had the helmet on. 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: I think there was like a goper on their helmet. 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: There was an overhead shot of her and her lashes 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: were like absolutely perfection, like so long. I just this 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: is the difference between you and I. You are so 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: good at pain attention to detail, and I pay zero 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: attention to stuff like that. So that is something I 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: would have never ever noticed. I was like, are these falsies? 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Are they lash extensions? I need to know? Are these natural? 48 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: We can get the info from her. I want it. 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I want the info. And then for the rose ceremony, 50 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Susie had a great sparkly hoop accessory, but her best 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: accessory was those Louis Vaton shoes. Did you catch did 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: I ever? That was my That was my rose from 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: last week? Yeah, she was wearing them to the rose 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: ceremony this week. I caught the little glimpse of the 55 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: red bottoms. I couldn't decide whose dress it lights better. 56 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Gabby's a serene. Serena had this like really beautiful cross 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: back navy gown on, but I think I'm gonna have 58 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: to go with Gabby just because I really haven't seen 59 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: anything like it on the show. I feel like it's 60 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: House of c CB. She wears them a lot and 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: it just looks great on her. I love the cut 62 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I love the color. I loved her like cheek, slick 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: back hair. So I think Gabby's gonna take the Rose 64 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Ceremony look for me this week. They all, I mean 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: those four women, they all dressed impectably. I do have 66 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: to say though, for Teddy's nighttime look along with the boots, 67 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: I just loved her whole outfit, like she looked great. 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Is definitely something that I feel like, Yeah, Gabby's I 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: would have worn like I just loved that whole thing. 70 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: So I was like, I hope Serena calls this out. Yes, yes, 71 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: I loved it. Let's get into the episode, because of 72 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: course it was I would say the most serious part 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: on this entire season so far. Hometowns always are. It's 74 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: like such a game change each year when you finally 75 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: bring family and friends into the mix. Some of my 76 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: key moments I have to say, first of all, have 77 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: to call out Susie just with sharing her father's story. 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: That one hit home for me personally, so it was 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: just really special to hear. But I cannot not talk 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: about my favorite person who I would have loved to 81 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: see more in this episode, who I would love to 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: see in every season, who I would just like to 83 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: have be in my life, part of my family. Gabby's grandpa. Yeah, 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: we have to give it up to the grandpa himself. 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: He was incredible. I'm already obsessed with him. I want 86 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: to get him on the podcast. I love him so much. 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: I want him to also be my grandfather. The fact 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: that she told them about the sit on your face 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: joke and the grandpa was like hysterically laughing, was like, 90 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: oh you Gabby, you Gabrielle, You're just I was like, 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: what is going on? I'm obsessed with you. Well, you 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: see where she gets her sense of humor. Yeah, and 93 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I love that. And like, there was one moment where 94 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: I think her and her grandpa sat down. I don't know, 95 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: of course it's going to be a serious conversation, but 96 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: they sit down and he made the comment of like 97 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: something like the lights of like I don't know what's 98 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: wrong with Clayton for keeping you around this song or 99 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: something sarcastic. That was just so fun, loving and I 100 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: now see where she gets it from it. It was 101 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: just such a pleasure for me as a viewer to 102 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: get to know him a bit. I want more of him. Yes, 103 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: I love he was the absolute family all star of 104 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: the entire episode. I'm going to give runner up to 105 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Susie's dad because he was also just the coolest dad, 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: Like he was like, you know, I trust my daughter. 107 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: She is the best judgment ever. Whatever she says, whatever 108 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: she wants goes. But yeah, Gabby's grandpa was the number 109 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: one took the cake. I will say though, And I 110 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: feel bad shitting on this moment because, if anything, I 111 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: actually got emotional watching it. It It was a beautiful moment. 112 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: But could they have hinted harder that Gabby's dad was 113 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: going to show up on that hometown day? Oh, I 114 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: feel like any chance they got it was like, I 115 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: just wish my dad was here. I was like, Gavy, 116 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm certain he is coming, and then they stole right 117 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: from love actually the whole thing. I know. One other thing, 118 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: um was I want to touch on Serene's hometown because 119 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: how the hell I feel like her brother has to 120 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: be on the show, right, Like we need to get 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: him on at that point. I want him. I mean 122 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: to tea single that was well that wasn't his girlfriend 123 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: or partner wife, right, because there was a female there, 124 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: but I didn't know if it was her best friend 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: or his. He was with her if you single get 126 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: him on the show. I don't attention to details, so 127 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't answer that one, but yeah, um, 128 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: overall your standard hometowns, yeah, I guess I want. Do 129 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: you think of Rachel's dad? Um? I will say I 130 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: appreciated him because I feel like, realistically, I know like 131 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: people are going to be hesitant. I'm sure if any 132 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: family member or a friend goes on the show, I 133 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: get that, and I understand, like I remember during my 134 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: hometowns on The Bachelor, like my uncles and my mom 135 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: questioned me hard, and so I appreciate him not like 136 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: letting the hype and this fame of the show get 137 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: to him at all. Obviously it was very uncomfortable for Clean, 138 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like it could have gotten worse with him. 139 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: I feel I feel like going in it was going 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: to be way worse, and I was like, this really 141 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad with his dad. And I feel like 142 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: the way that him and Rachel interacted, You're like, Okay, 143 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: you're tough, but like she loves you and doesn't seem 144 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: like scared of you in any way. Like they seem 145 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: like they have a really good relationship and like he 146 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: had him at the arm at the end. So I 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: was like, this all worked out. Did you have any 148 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: like really tough hometowns when you were a batch shorette? No, No, 149 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: I didn't. It was I actually had a lot of 150 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: fun that week because, like, I know, it was supposed 151 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: to be so serious, but I went into it with 152 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: no expectations, just like wanting to be myself off and 153 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: have fun and get to know the families because I 154 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: was like I might be part of one of these 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: families one day. So yeah, none of them were really tough. 156 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: All of them were so fun. I had such a blast. 157 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: It was like one of the weeks where I actually 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: had more downtime because you're traveling so much, where I 159 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: was able to catch up on sleep and like relax 160 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: a bit more. And I loved it because the guys 161 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: planned the date this time, so I it was like 162 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: stress free for me. I didn't have to do anything 163 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: that I'd show up and have a good time. Yeah, 164 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: that's true. I can see that as being and I 165 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's like like I don't know why I 166 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: could be wrong this, but I feel like the bachelors 167 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: always get a bit of a harder time on the 168 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: hometown dates than the bachelorette because you get like the 169 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: protective dads or just the protective parents being like, do 170 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: not be taking advantage of my daughter? Yeah, yeah, oh 171 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: for sure. And I feel like you just in general, 172 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: two the bachelors when their leads just tend to also 173 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: get more hate and criticism throughout the board, you know, 174 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: not even with the family, but on social media. It's 175 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: just I think people are so much more harsh on 176 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: the men for whatever reason. And so yeah, I feel 177 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: like I had pretty smooth sailings, so I can't complaints here. 178 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: I want to ask you before we bring Teddy on though, 179 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: with these last four girls, did you expect Serene to 180 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: go home? Or who were you kind of thinking it 181 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: might be her? Last week? I literally have written on 182 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: my notes and I'm sorry this is harsh, but this 183 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: is what I wrote down. Serena is one going home? 184 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: Do you okay? Yeah? I was like, honestly from the 185 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: like the first three minutes into her one on one day, 186 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, like, I just get the vibes, like, yeah, 187 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: I really like her, and I think that they had 188 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: a wonderful friendship and he had a lot of respect 189 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: and she's obviously stunning, but the romantic connection for me 190 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: watching with Clayton and Serene was like way behind where 191 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: it was with the other three women, right I was 192 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna say a the very beginning of the date with Gabby, 193 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: I was like she might be the one going home 194 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: only because she is so funny and comedic all the 195 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: time that I was like, I wonder if they can 196 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: really get to the point after tonight of where they 197 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: should be and right away, like I think with me 198 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: in the family, it was there, so I knew after 199 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: her date, I was like, Okay, Gabby's good. So I 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: started to send Serene m but you know, so there's 201 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: wild cards. You truly never know going into that that week, 202 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: especially her date. Like activity probably I actually thought all 203 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: the day activities were pretty fun. They were all like 204 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: very outdoorsy and active and like awesome ideas. But we 205 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: had a Ropes course at Emma Collin and every single 206 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: week we were like, Who's getting the Robes Corse date? 207 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: Like everyone wanted to do the Robes course date and 208 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: no one got it. But it looked so much fun. 209 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: It was so fun to watch and they looked like 210 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: they were really enjoying each other's company. But yeah, I 211 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: felt for her. But I think hopefully watching it back, 212 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: she's going to be able to see that her connection 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: maybe just wasn't where she thought it was in comparison 214 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: to the other women. For sure. Definitely. Okay, before we 215 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: bring Teddy on, the weeks are changing. We are obviously 216 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: dwindling down. We only have three women left. But before 217 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: we get into the Fantasy suites, we actually have Women 218 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: Tell All that's airing next Monday, and Serena. I can't 219 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: wait to see what goes down. I already know it's 220 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: going to be a wild, crazy night with all of 221 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: the women. If it's anything on par with this season, 222 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be an episode that we will have 223 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: a lot to recap on the next day. So I 224 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: can't wait for that. I can't wait either. I am 225 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: so excited to watch and see all of the drama 226 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: once again unfold. We're gonna have to load up on 227 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: wine for that one, I think, or a bourdown. I 228 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: will send you some boardown just for the Women Tell All. 229 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: Until then, though, we have to talk to the women 230 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: of the hour. She was the first Impression Rose recipient, 231 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: and somebody that was catching my eye since the beginning, 232 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: who we thought was going all the way, I would say, so, 233 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, let's bring on Teddy 234 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: the Happy Hour. Well, Teddy, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. 235 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: We've been wanting to get you on here for so long, 236 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: and it's great to finally have you. I just want 237 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: to start out by checking in on you. Obviously, so 238 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: much has transparred in these past few months since you 239 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: filmed and came back from filming and now watching all 240 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: of this season unfold. So how have you been. I'm 241 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: doing good. First of all, I've been begging to meet 242 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: you guys for so long because I'm happy to be here. Welcome. 243 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: It really was a whirlwind. I just watched the ending 244 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: so that it was a crazy thing, coming from watching 245 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: that first episode where it was going so great and 246 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: kind of just watching you could say my downfall throughout 247 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: these next few weeks. So it's been crazy. But the 248 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: sport has been amazing. I wasn't really expecting that. So overall, like, 249 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm just so thankful for this experience. How is it 250 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: watching yourself back? Because I mean, Serena and I know 251 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: it's never very fun and so I was kind of uncomfortable, 252 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Like what is that for you? Do you hate listening 253 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: to your voice? Do you hate seeing every like all 254 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: the interactions? Um? Yeah, I say like a lot. The 255 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: world has not been afraid of telling me that. Um. 256 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: I also pronounce as teas and everyone is so mad 257 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: that I say, Clayton, I pronounce my teeth very much. 258 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: Like listening to my voice is hard sometimes, But I 259 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is watching me kiss. I like 260 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: completely forgot about the cameras, so watch myself. That's a 261 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: good thing when you're filming but not watching it back 262 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: because then you're like, ah, like why are you on 263 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: a pool table? Yeah, teddy. The people want to know 264 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: what is your hair routine? Oh? I get that question 265 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: so much. Um. I use a brand called Inner Sense. 266 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: I think like the main thing that curly hair people 267 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: need to do is put their hair products in the 268 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: shower when their hair is still wet. I think a 269 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: lot of people do it when they get out of 270 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: the shower, but your hair has to be like really 271 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: like soaking wet still when you put in like your 272 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: leave in products. That's like my biggest tip that is 273 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: a good work. I actually do know, yeah, and I 274 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: neglect it and that is why my hair looks dry. 275 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: It never does. You both have great hair. But but 276 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking aboutcause when I do take 277 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: the time to be like, I'm just gonna let my 278 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: hair be drenched, dripping down my back with my leaven 279 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: products in it does um. Okay, I want to take 280 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: it way way back. Obviously we have seen your exit, 281 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: but I want to go back to the first episode 282 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: because we saw so much of you in that first episode. 283 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: We saw your exit, your beautiful dress. Most importantly, we 284 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: saw you get that first impression row, So we know 285 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: that you made a first impression on Claylon. That was 286 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: definite Clayton, that was definitely memorable. Can you tell us 287 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: about his first impression on you? Oh yeah, I think 288 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: we were both putting a lot of pressure on that Momentum. 289 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to feel spark right away, and I definitely did. Um. 290 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: I think the thing that he always said to me 291 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: was he just felt so comfortable with me, and I 292 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: did with him too. Like that first night together, it 293 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: really felt like we had already known each other for 294 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: a while, and like I think a lot of girls 295 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: felt that way, but our connection was just really strong 296 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: right from the get go. It was never awkward, Like 297 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: we never had like awkward silence or moments where we 298 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: didn't know what to talk about. So I think we 299 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: both just felt very safe with each other very early on. 300 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,239 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this because people have mentioned 301 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: there's a curse with the first impression Rose. In terms 302 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor, I feel like when it's a bachelorette season, 303 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: they're pretty good about women's right and the guys. You know, 304 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: men are men, and there's a lot to look at 305 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: that first night, did you feel like at any point, 306 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I'm sure you were thrilled to get 307 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: that first impression Rose, and you probably felt so scene 308 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: and special, But did any part of you feel like 309 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: it's a little cursed or like there was targeted on 310 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: your back at that point that first night. No, that 311 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: first night when I got it, I just felt so good. 312 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: I really was like, I think I'm going to get 313 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: engaged at the end of this. But I think, honestly, 314 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: twenty four hours later on that first group date, I 315 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I don't know. I think I will 316 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: say there is a curse on it on the Bachelor. 317 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: I think there's just a lot of pressure. You put 318 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: so much pressure on yourself, and I'm sure he was too, 319 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: and I think you just feel the lows so much 320 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: more like we came from such a high. So then 321 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that next day, when he was getting 322 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: to know so many other women, it did just feel 323 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: even lower because you just felt like it was just 324 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: the two of you there that first night. I think 325 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: also it just I think he gained a lot of 326 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: confidence in our relationship early on with that first impression Rose, 327 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: and I think because of that a little bit, I 328 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: was a little bit on the back burner in the beginning. 329 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: He was getting to know the other woman, which he 330 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: should have been doing that, but I think at that 331 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: point it did just come up too late. Our one 332 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: on one was like really late. I think it was 333 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: because he just was so confident in where we were at. 334 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: But then it just, you know, it was too late 335 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: for us. So then how did that feel for you 336 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: kind of week after week, because I'm sure after that 337 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: first impression Rose, you're like, oh, yeah, there is a 338 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: one on in my near future. At least that's why 339 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: I felt that way too. Yeah, So then week after 340 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: week you're like, Okay, it's not my turn yet. It's 341 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: not my turn. Did you hit a point where you're like, 342 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: what the heck is going on? Where's my one on 343 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: one day? And like how did you just kind of 344 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: keep pushing yourself through those group dates until your one 345 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: on one came later? In this yeah, I could tell 346 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: early on that the one on ones he was giving 347 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: to the girls were girls that he felt very strongly about, 348 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: Like right off the gate, that one on was Susie. 349 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Every week it was a girl that he had a 350 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: really strong connection with. So I couldn't even say in 351 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: my head like, oh, he's just trying to get to 352 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: know the girls that he doesn't really like that much, 353 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: and he's just you know, mine will come later, because 354 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: I was like, no, no no, he started to ride off 355 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: the bat with a girl he had a strong connection with, 356 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: So it was really hard every week, and again, like 357 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think I deserved it more than anyone else, 358 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: but I think because I knew our connection was so strong, 359 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: I just felt like, well, he should want to spend 360 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: time with me because it seems like we really like 361 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: each other, Like he would want like a one on 362 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: one with me at two So I was starting to 363 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: lose steam a little bit near the end before my 364 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: one on one. I think what made me continue to 365 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: push forward was our individual time together. He was very 366 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: validating and I always felt good. So I was losing 367 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: confidence during the day portion of group dates, but every 368 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: night he would like validate me again, and he always 369 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: would tell me I just feel so great about us, 370 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: like our time will come, and that was kind of 371 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: where I continue to feel confident. My time with him 372 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: alone individually was always amazing. So I want to ask 373 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: you this in hindsight, now, do you wish if you 374 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: had two options, do you wish you would have received 375 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: that first impression roles or the first one on one date? Oh? 376 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: I think I think if I would want, I would 377 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: say probably the first one on one. But that's just 378 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: me personally, knowing my personality. I think it could be 379 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: different for different girls, but I didn't have like a 380 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: lot of confidence going into it. So I think week 381 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: by week not getting that in individual time with him, 382 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: it was hard to know if I could actually see 383 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: a future with him outside of there. And when a 384 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: girl would come back from a one on one, they 385 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: would be all in and I just I couldn't feel 386 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: that way. Because I didn't have hours to spend with 387 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: him at that point. So I think if I would 388 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: have had an early one on one, I would have 389 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: been more confident the rest of the way through, and 390 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: I would have been all in a lot more quickly 391 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: like the other girls were. Yeah, I feel like ahead. 392 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, I was just gonna ask you, Serena, when 393 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: did you get your first one on one with Matt? 394 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: I was week two? Okay, so you were so earlier. Yeah, 395 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: so it was three and Sarah. So we had two 396 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: one on ones our first week, and then I got 397 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: the one on one, the only one on one our 398 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: second week, so I was the third one on one 399 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: second week. But yeah, definitely early on and like I 400 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: will say, like it feels as though there is somewhat 401 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: of an advantage, yeah, earlier one on one dates. I 402 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: know Abigail from my season had a similarish experience to 403 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: what you had where she got the first impression Rose 404 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 1: and then she actually never got a one on one 405 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: day and I know that she expressed it as like 406 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: almost to tease, because it really boosted her confidence in 407 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: that he felt the connection that she felt, and then 408 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: every week to not get a one on one, it 409 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: was almost like, well, I'm confused, Like it felt like 410 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: a mixed signal in a way. I don't know if 411 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: you felt exactly how I felt, and I've talked about 412 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: it on the show. I do take a while to 413 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: trust men in general, and I'm very big on your 414 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: words matching your actions, and I think every week his 415 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: words being so validating and so much like I just 416 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: can't wait until we get closer to the end, like 417 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: we'll get so much time together. I was like, well, 418 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: you're the Bachelor, so if you want more time with me, 419 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: you can get it to me. So I think that's 420 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: kind of where it was harder. I did feel like 421 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: he was kind of teasing me with his words but 422 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: then not having his actions match that. And again, like 423 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: all the girls I got the one on ones were 424 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: so deserving, but I just was like, you can't give 425 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: me a one on one if you want to. I 426 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: was a tech for sure. Yeah, I can imagine, I mean, 427 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: and just speaking from my experience, it was a little 428 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: bit different because I was lucky enough to get that 429 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: very first one on one date, so I established the 430 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: most time right away. But I probably experience something similar 431 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: to you where you start on such a high and 432 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: you're like rolling, rolling, rolling, and then you get on 433 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: the group date and you're like, oh wait, but I'm 434 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: not the only one here, and now I have to 435 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: watch him divide his time between other people and it's 436 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: really difficult. It's like you're trying to move forward in 437 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: a relationship, but sometimes in the sense, especially on group date. 438 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: Afterard group date, it's like you take what is this saying, 439 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: like one step forward, two steps back. It's like you 440 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: can't quite get to that point. And especially in this 441 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: environment where like at the end of this there's an engagement. 442 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: You need to ask the right questions. I have enough 443 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: time to get to that point. It makes it really 444 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: difficult if you don't get that that alone time until 445 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: later on. So, speaking of group dates, because you had 446 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot under your belt, you know, those first few 447 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: weeks overall, what was your favorite group date of the season. 448 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: Definitely Houston. I love the football date, and I thought 449 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: that was going to be the worst one that I 450 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: would go on. I'm not usually big on physical activities, 451 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: but it was so much fun, like getting to meet 452 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: the NFL players and I think it was cool. There 453 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: definitely was drama, but we all were not following the rules, 454 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: and none of us knew that. Like the winning team 455 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: that I was on, I guess we were doing things 456 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: that were like illegal and regular football, but we thought 457 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: we were just doing so good illegal Like I would 458 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: have had no idea either, And when like everything's fair, Yeah, okay, 459 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: the rules are, they're already exactly, but whist all blow 460 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: and I would just tackle the quarterback. And then after 461 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: I found out you're not allowed to do that, but 462 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: I think you're nuts. You have to wait a searchain 463 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: amount of seconds, but like blow and I would just charge. 464 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would be like, yeah, I got that. Sad, 465 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: but it was so much fun because then the next 466 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: day we were all worried, like, ah, like is everyone 467 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: going to be mad at each other because we were 468 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: just like tackling, But everyone was like just laughing about it. 469 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: It was such a fun day because that was my 470 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: favorite well you, and so much drama that took place 471 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: that evening that wasn't even with anyone that was supposed 472 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: to be on the group portion of that date that 473 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: night that it just took over. Um, I want to 474 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: get into some of the drama, but we don't need 475 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: to harp on it because we've talked at length about everything, 476 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: you know, especially in terms of Cheney. But did you 477 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: feel like, because there was so much drama with her 478 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: and some of the other women early on in that season, 479 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: did you feel like at any point that your relationship 480 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: with Clayton just really prevented it from developing any further. Yeah, 481 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: Cheney never really like affected me that much. I think 482 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: for me, the biggest thing was and a lot of 483 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: the other girls didn't have the luxury of this, So 484 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: I know I was lucky that I felt this way, 485 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: But I knew that Clayton did see my personality, he 486 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: knew who it was. So I was never really that 487 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: concerned about Shane because I knew she was making up 488 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: lies about girls. But I knew, like if she ever 489 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: lied to Clayton about me, we had a strong enough foundation. 490 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: But I would have at least hoped that he would 491 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: have been able to see through it and be like, 492 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: I know, that's not who Teddy is. So she never 493 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: really bothered me in that way. But I think just 494 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: the drama in general, I hate drama. Being surrounded by 495 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: it did like cause me to just shell up a 496 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: little bit because she was just monopolizing the house, especially 497 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: near the end of it, and I think that was 498 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: causing to me to just kind of withdraw to not 499 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: like be so anxious all the time. So yeah, she 500 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: never really like was worrying me about if she could 501 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: affect my relationship, but then it was affecting me personally, 502 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: which then I guess was just taking so much time away. 503 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: So that's like totally understandable though, because I do remember 504 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: feeling somewhat of a similar way where you're like, when 505 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: there's so much drama happening around you, even if it 506 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: doesn't evolve you, You're like, this just doesn't feel like 507 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: a safe space. Like I feel almost nervous being like 508 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: totally candid and myself because like what if something is 509 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: said or done that's taken, Like I don't know, it 510 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like if you feel like the people 511 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: that are causing in the drama and are participating in it, 512 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: like you almost can't trust those people. I mean, in 513 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Shy's case, you definitely can't trust her, But I mean, yeah, 514 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: I get how that can create like a very anxious environmentally. 515 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 1: I have a question because you just had mentioned, you know, 516 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: if she were to go to Clayton and spread lies 517 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: or say anything about you that you would know you 518 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: had such a solid foundation. And it really seemed like 519 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: she was going after anyone who, you know, potentially opened 520 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: themselves up to be I would say, not that they 521 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: were a target, but she kind of made them that. 522 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: Like in the house, did everyone feel like, oh my gosh, 523 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be mean next, She's going to go to 524 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: Clayton and make these lies and tell them whatever she 525 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: has to say to save herself. Yeah, because it never 526 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: had an actual reason. Like the girls she would go after. 527 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: It never made sense. So I think we all were like, 528 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: it could be us next, because there's never actually a reason, 529 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: Like none of the girls she went after it actually 530 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: there was an actual reason. It was all just basically 531 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: made up. So yeah, we all kind of felt like 532 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: my name could be next. That he that like she 533 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: talks to him about. And yeah, I did cause a 534 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: very anxious environment for everyone. Yeah, I would see clear 535 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: of her totally, super totally okay with the fact she 536 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: got left in great Falls. You did not have to 537 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: bring her to Avar with you, so you know, moving past, 538 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: say we're in Havar and you finally get that one 539 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: on one day. Were you surprised when you heard Clayton 540 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: say your name? Like, what was your reaction. I was 541 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: surprised by the time of Croatian. I really was like, 542 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to get a one on one. Yeah, 543 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: you had resting, sad girl face by the time everyone 544 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: tells me that, I'm like, I know, I can't hide 545 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: my emotions and I was sad, so so you know, 546 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: I was not expecting my name to be called. I 547 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: was so excited. I felt like that was such a 548 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: good week. Once I finally came, I was like, Okay, 549 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: this is a good week because I already had such 550 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: a strong, like comfortability with him, so I felt like 551 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: we could really go deep and we didn't have to 552 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: worry about like small talk. So I was really excited 553 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: to get it. But I was not expecting it at all. 554 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: I would have picked a keuter outfit, but I was like, 555 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm not getting this one on one today, so I'm 556 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: just going to wear something. Yeah. He said the exact 557 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: same thing, because I guess she was a similar situation 558 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: where like they were like, okay, you're going right now, 559 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: and she was like like in the car, you're on 560 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: you're on that night. I mean, that date just seemed 561 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: first of all, I have to say, like you were 562 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: lucky about that one on one in Havar, because Croatia 563 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: is just beautiful in general, and so the fact that 564 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: you could just explore and just be a normal couple, 565 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: you know, traveling and experience like this vacation together was 566 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: I was like, she's a lucky girl. But that night 567 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: you sat down at dinner and opened up a bit 568 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: more about your personal life and the fact that you 569 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: were a virgin. How did you think he was going 570 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: to handle that? And like how I guess I don't 571 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: want to say stressful, but how nervous were you or 572 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: how heavy was that weighing on you to share that 573 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: with him in that moment. It was never something that 574 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: I've ever been really nervous about telling a guy in 575 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: the past. I think because the day portion of our 576 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: date went so well, I started to gave nerves as 577 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: the day went on, because I usually tell guy really 578 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: early on before I have that strong of a connection 579 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: with them to where I'm like, well, if they don't, 580 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: if this is something that bothers them, then like whatever, 581 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: I'll just move on. But because that whole day portion 582 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: went so well, like we were laughing the whole time. 583 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: It was as perfect as it could have been. I 584 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: was really nervous because I already at that point really 585 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: liked him, so I was worried what his reaction would be. 586 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's something that I'm really open about, and 587 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: I knew if he didn't respond well, it would just 588 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: have to be we would have to part ways. But 589 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: I will say he did respond well. A lot of 590 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: people did get on him because he made like a 591 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: weird comment about like, well, you don't remind me of 592 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: virgin which was even me, that was really weird. Yeah, 593 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: he was like, I mean I never wouldn't know well obviously, 594 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think he took it well. He asked 595 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: a lot of questions and they were all very future 596 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: focused in that moment of just well, what would you 597 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: do differently like if we had kids, because I did 598 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of pressure growing up on my virginity. 599 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: It was faith based, but it also was just you know, 600 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: my mom had a child at a young age, and 601 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: then my sister had a child at a young age, 602 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: so my mom was a definitely stricter with me. So 603 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: I think we just talked about like how I would 604 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: do things differently as a mom. He asked like, well, 605 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: if we have sex, Like, is your mom going to 606 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: hate me? So he asked me, now, my mom doesn't care. 607 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: These are some weird questions and he's asking, well, I'll 608 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: be honest. He seemed totally shocked, Like his response, right, what, 609 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure he it sounded like you guys had a 610 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: good conversation, but the part they showed he just looked 611 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: kind of deer in the headlights of like, oh my gosh, 612 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I didn't expect this. I don't know how 613 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: to respond. So I am glad to hear that he 614 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, there's not always like right or normal questions, 615 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: so like, I'm just glad to hear that he was 616 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: inquisitive and asking you. How did his response make you feel? Yeah, 617 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: I felt really like confident about it in the moment. 618 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: I really did think that his questions made sense and 619 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: they were all future focused to where I knew like 620 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: he was taking me seriously in our relationship seriously, So 621 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I felt good about it. But yeah, I think it 622 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: did cause some concerns for him, and I wasn't I 623 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: wasn't really expecting that I will give him credit. I 624 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: think there is like a stereotype of a virgin, and 625 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: I don't fall under that bracket. I am very sexual 626 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: and I like to talk about it, and I don't 627 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I don't think that's really normal 628 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: for virgins at least like what society sees um, you know, 629 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: like you see us making out like in every episode. 630 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: So I understand why he was shocked, but I think 631 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: that just has to go more of like that society 632 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: creates this thing where like virginity equals prude, and that 633 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: just isn't the case. I just had a set of 634 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: values that I, you know, changed as I grew up. 635 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: But like I said, why he was shocked, I think 636 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: guys that I dated have always been shocked. Like it's 637 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: never been something that a guy really would guess for me. 638 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: But I felt so good after that date. I really thought, like, whoa, 639 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: I think I might get engaged at the end of 640 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: our date. So I felt really good about it in 641 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: a moment. Well, so then moving forward, we see you 642 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: go on to the next week, you guys go to Vienna, 643 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: which also seemed incredible, and I want to get into 644 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: like that entire week. But since we're talking about, you know, 645 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: your journey with claim specifically, and feeling so confident and 646 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: that you could potentially get engaged at the end of 647 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: this that week, he sent you home and in that 648 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: moment there wasn't really much dialogue between the two of you, 649 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: which I also found weird. Like I thought he was 650 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: at least going to walk you out and sit down 651 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: and have that conversation, because I feel like you deserved that, 652 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: and there really wasn't much, but you had made the 653 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: come and like you know, I thought I was going 654 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: to hometowns, everything that led up into this point. Heman 655 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: feel so confident that I was going to be one 656 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: of these top four women whose family he would meet. 657 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: And so where do you think that disconnect was? And 658 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: did you ever even have the time when he was 659 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: sending you home to ask him that. I will say, 660 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: we did get a moment that we were able to talk, 661 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: but I was so shocked that I didn't ask him anything. 662 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: I just couldn't like wrap my head around it in 663 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: the moment, so I didn't say anything, and I regretted 664 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: that for like weeks after I got home. I should 665 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: have asked him more. But I also think he could 666 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: have on his own set more so, I do think 667 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: that moment was kind of strange, especially because we had 668 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: built such a strong connection. A lot of it honestly 669 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: wasn't shown, and that just had to do with so 670 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: much of the drama function name andopolizing a lot of things. 671 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: But we were really strong and really close at that point. 672 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: So him kind of just giving me like a generic goodbye, 673 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: it was really hard to take in a moment, Like 674 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: when he was sending me home at were looking at 675 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: him and it just seemed like all his feelings just 676 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: like had vanished, and he was like, okay, well, like 677 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: I hope you you know, you'll make someone happy like goodbye, 678 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: And I was just like, what just changed? Like we 679 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: were so strong a week ago, Like a week ago, 680 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: you were telling me this was perfect. He told me 681 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: the feeling he had been waiting to feel on a 682 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: one on one he finally felt with me. So I 683 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: was completely blindsided, but I'll take some of it that 684 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: I could have asked more, and I really regretted that 685 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: when I got home, But yeah, it was a really 686 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: weird goodbye to what you just said, Teddy Beck, I 687 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: really want your take on this because in my eyes, 688 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: if you're the one doing the breaking up with, meaning 689 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: like Clayton is sending you home, I think the responsibility 690 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: falls on Clayton to an extent to have mentally prepared 691 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: for like what he's going to say during that conversation, 692 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: to be able to give that person like closure and answers, 693 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: because obviously he went through it on Michelle season at 694 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: about the same time, and I'm sure he experienced to 695 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: a degreat shock and I thought she did a really 696 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: good job of saying like, this is my explanation for 697 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: why I've made this decision, because like you've been in 698 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: those shoes. Yeah, I mean well, and I see both 699 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: sides because again, like I was on the Bauch Short 700 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: and I was the Bachelorette, and like Teddy for you, 701 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: like when you say you felt shocked and you didn't 702 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: really even know what to ask, I was the exact 703 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: same way when I got broken up with by Ari, 704 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: And even during the finale when it was the first 705 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: time I actually sat down and talked with him, I 706 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: was so shocked still because I yeah, it's like what 707 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: do you say to somebody that's breaking up with you? 708 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to have to fight for your love. 709 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, you deserve to 710 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: give me something, and but I just kind of hold 711 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: up and put these guards up because I was like, 712 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to give you anything. I don't know 713 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: what to ask at this point. But to Clayton's credit too, 714 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: I will say that as the lead, each week, you 715 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: know you have to send people home, and so you 716 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: have to mentally prepare to a certain extent for those goodbyes. 717 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: And I'm you know, if he's anything like how I 718 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of process things going into those row ceremonies, you 719 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: already know what's going to happen for the most part, 720 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: whether it's going to be easy or not. You already 721 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: kind of know who's going on to the next week 722 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: and who's going to be sent home. And so I'm 723 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: sure he had time to process that a bit, and 724 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: that's maybe why for him it seemed like he wasn't 725 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: as emotional or vocal as he could have been, because 726 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure in his mind as man, he had processed 727 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: it in a way which not to say like I 728 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: think deserved to still sit you down and have that 729 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: conversation and give you more. And that's something that you 730 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: just kind of learned as time goes, because I could 731 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: when I was lead, I could put myself back into 732 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: your position as a contestant and be like, well, this 733 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: is how I felt when I was blindsided, this is 734 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: what I would have wanted. So I tried to go 735 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: a bit slower and give the guys more time and 736 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: have those conversations, especially when you're going home right before hometowns, 737 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: Like it's not like you're going home week two or 738 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: week three where you don't know each other that well. 739 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: Like you guys had spent enough time together at this 740 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: point to get up to nearly hometowns, where I wish 741 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: he would have just had a bit more time and 742 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: respect where he sat you down and he could have 743 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: even just opened it up of like I can imagine 744 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: this is so hard for you. I'm sorry for hurting 745 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: you asking me anything, Like even if it was that 746 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: where then it kind of went back to you where 747 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: you could just kind of process me, like what do 748 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: I really want to know right now? But it's weird 749 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: being on both sides and it's never easy, And even 750 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: if he had time to process it, I'm sure it's 751 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: still hurt him after that it's just you just at 752 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: the end of the day kind of know what you 753 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: have to do and you know the steps that you 754 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: have to take. But I really do hope that at 755 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: least when you see him again during the tell all 756 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: that you have the opportunity to ask him those questions 757 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: and don't leave anything up in the air. That's the 758 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,479 Speaker 1: worst feeling, is like having the regrets and the what IF's, 759 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: and who knows you might still have them. I know 760 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: I do still to this day for certain situations. But 761 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: you just kind of just know that everything that was 762 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: in the past and they're so much more that's going 763 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: to be opened for you in the future. That's exciting 764 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: that you can have to look forward to. So there's 765 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: still a lot to come. And as you go through 766 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: different seasons and get to meet people in this world, 767 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: you kind of I think it's easier for you to 768 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: let your guards down and ask questions and open up totally. 769 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: I'll say that's like the biggest thing is Clayton I 770 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: think was just like a lesson learned for me and 771 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: like the best way possible. I feel like he was 772 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: such a good person to get those lessons from because 773 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: he was a safe space for me and in my 774 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 1: next relationship, like I will be so much more open 775 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: and I will be a lot more vulnerable because of 776 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: the regrets I have to see and watch week by 777 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: week with him so overwall. Like I think he did 778 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: like the best he could, of course, like I wish 779 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: we would have had more conversations, but I did get 780 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: the closure that I needed after that, and like we'll 781 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: see more at the Tell. So yes, well, I'm definitely 782 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: so excited to see the Tell next week. I mean, 783 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: it's definitely going to be in time. Can we just 784 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: take it back a little it because I know we're 785 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,479 Speaker 1: going to see this at the Tell, and I would 786 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: love to get your take on it the Mara and 787 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: Sarah dramas. Please tell me what you think, because there 788 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: was just so much that unfolded in such a short 789 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: amount of time. And obviously we saw you at Gabby 790 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: and Rachel speak on it with Clayton directly. Did you 791 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: have a side that you were on? Were you on 792 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: nobody's side? I mean, you're also one of the younger 793 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: women in the house. How did Mara's comments resonate with you? Like, 794 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: I want to know it all. I was really shocked 795 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: by the Mayor and Sarah drama like that wasn't looming 796 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: at all when it just happened that week. I was 797 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: very surprised. And at that point me and Sarah were 798 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: good friends. Me and Rachel and Sarah were hanging out 799 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: a lot in like the beginning of the show or 800 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: the weeks, so I was really surprised by that. I 801 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: remember when Sarah came back with the Rose and she 802 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of confronted all of the girls there, and Mara 803 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: said that it had to do with age. That part 804 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: was hard for me to listen to because I don't 805 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: think age really has much to do with it. We 806 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: all kind of move in life differently, and some things 807 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: that I experienced at a young age, someone else might 808 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: not experience late until later in life or never have 809 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: to experience. So I think we all grow and mature 810 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: in different ways. So I don't think age has anything 811 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: to do with if you're ready for marriage. I mean, 812 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: child brides I do not support, but young I don't. 813 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that like a twenty three year old 814 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: cannot be ready for love and commitment with one person. 815 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: So I guess when I had to do with the 816 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: age portion of the argument, I would have been on 817 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: sarah side. I think Mara had other arguments as far 818 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: as confidence and words and things that Sarah was saying. 819 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of more where I might have 820 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: been more on Mara's side, and we see that kind 821 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: of come into blow in Austria, and that was kind 822 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: of where me, Gabby, and Rachel ended up going to 823 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: Clayton about it. So I wasn't really on a merit 824 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: or Sarah side as far as like Croatia went, but 825 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: as far as age went, I didn't agree with that, 826 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: but I think Maya did make good points because a 827 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: lot of the girls in the house were starting to 828 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: get really uncomfortable with the things Sarah was deciding to 829 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: divulge to them. So yeah, Austria was definitely hard. I 830 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: don't think any of us. I was not planning and 831 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: I was not going to say anything to Clayton. It 832 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: was kind of something that I think the girls had 833 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: been talking about for a while of kind of pushing 834 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: me and Rachel to say something because we were the 835 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: ones that had most of the experience with Sarah at 836 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: that point, and I remember telling them like, I'm not 837 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 1: going to say anything, Like I don't care if Clayton 838 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: says specifically, like, what is Sarah doing? Like, I will 839 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: not say anything because to me, at that point, I 840 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: had realized that she was not telling the truth about 841 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: some things, and it made me realize, Okay, we might 842 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: not have a friendship, and as far as a friend goes, 843 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how great of a friend she is. 844 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: But I still don't think I can judge how great 845 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: of a wife she would be. I don't think those 846 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: really correlated us far as what she was doing. I 847 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: think like what changed was when the therapist brought it 848 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: up and called someone performative. That's kind of where it 849 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: changed where I felt like, okay, like we kind of 850 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 1: have to now say it to Clayton if he's asking. 851 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: I can't just sit back and not say anything, because 852 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: that's not really fair to Clayton at that point because 853 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: he's just going to be running through his head right 854 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: before hometowns, like is one of the girls I just 855 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: kept not here for the right reasons. So yeah, we 856 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: did to end up going to him about it, and 857 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't regret doing that. I think it made sense 858 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: at the time, and I think he needed to be 859 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: aware at that point because a lot of his strongest 860 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: girls there had all kind of had feelings of wanting 861 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: to leave and it had to do with the thing 862 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: Sarah was telling them that weren't actually true. Well, I 863 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: want to ask you this because you had just mentioned, 864 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: like the drama between Mirror and Sarah wasn't really looming 865 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: until you got to Vienna, right, like that's when it 866 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: really exploded. But it seems like really things were looming 867 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: with Sarah, whether it's with stuff she was divulging to 868 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: the group and saying to you guys behind closed doors, 869 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: that seems now looking back in piece and everything together, 870 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: that that was looming more since the beginning and like 871 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: very early on. And so at any point, like this 872 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: is a two part question, I want to ask, at 873 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: any point did anyone confront Sarah any earlier that we 874 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: just didn't see it air or do you now wish 875 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: and maybe you've chatted with the other women about this too, like, 876 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: does anyone wish they would have confronted her earlier so 877 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have to blow up and get to the 878 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: point that it did. And really, I mean, because it 879 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: sounds like she made y'all feel like shit and it 880 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: really rocked your relationships and like wanting to be there 881 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: at certain points. I think that that was a consensus 882 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: of the group. So do you does anyone wish they 883 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: would have called her out earlier totally to answer a question? 884 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: As far as I know, no one confronted her earlier, 885 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: and I wish that we would have. I think the 886 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: hard part was is she would go to us all 887 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: individually and off camera. So she would start it by saying, 888 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, because we are so close, I want to 889 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: tell you. What he's saying is that you can guard 890 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: your heart. So when you're phrasing it like that, like 891 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: you just don't having a friend coming and talking to you. 892 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: Is this like late night bedroom chat. Yeah, it's like 893 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 1: to each other's rooms at night, like not really supposed 894 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: to be doing that. But she would phrase it as 895 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: being your best friend. And I am very naive to that. 896 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: I love having a lot of friends, and I was. 897 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: I was thankful on the moment because again, like I 898 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: did want to guard my heart, and when someone's phrasing 899 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: it in a way that they're doing it to be 900 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: your friend, I didn't feel like that was something I 901 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: should tattle or tell someone talk about to someone else. 902 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: But she would do that to everyone, but none of 903 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: us knew because none of us were talking about it, 904 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: because we all thought she was just going to us, 905 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: just us and just as our best friend, but really 906 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: she was doing it to every person that had a 907 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: strong relationship with him. So I didn't feel in the 908 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 1: moment like there was anything to confront because I thought 909 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: it was coming from pure intentions. Looking back, I think 910 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: we all wish we would have by week two, after 911 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: she got her one on one, confronted her in that moment, 912 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: but we didn't know that it was it was happening. 913 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: We didn't think there was malontinet in the moment. It's 914 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: so interesting in hearing everything back now from you women, 915 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: because they're, like you said, there's so much I think 916 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: that everyone missed, Like I can't even imagine being in 917 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: your position and piecing it together with everyone else. But 918 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: it just seemed like and again like I don't know 919 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 1: Sarah that well. We've only got her on the podcast 920 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: once and I hosted the date with her for two 921 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: seconds and basically made her get down in turn her 922 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: under her. But but it seems like from everything she 923 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: was saying and doing too well, it just it's so 924 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: manipulated totally. And I think, like one thing that I 925 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: want to clear up is it wasn't that she was 926 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: making us insecure in our relationships with things that were true. 927 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: It was just the fact that it ended up not 928 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: even being true. And it wasn't things that we were asking. 929 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were saying, can you tell us 930 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: what Clayton is telling you? It would always it is 931 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: just her starting the conversation and her saying, hey, I 932 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: want to tell you as your friend. I think that's 933 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: where it got difficult was where we found out that 934 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: the things she was saying we're not actually true. So 935 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: there were some things that she would say that made 936 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: me feel I mean, I'll just say and I think 937 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 1: this was said in an episode. It was. It was 938 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: the strongest relationship. She went to me individually, Rachel individually, 939 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: Gabby individually, and Susie individually. And we all had times 940 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: since week two that we all felt like, I don't 941 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: know if I should stay still because if he's telling 942 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: her these things this early on, why am I here? 943 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 1: And why am I sharing things about my family? Why 944 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: am I sharing myself? If he's already made his decision. 945 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: And again, he wasn't saying those things, but we didn't 946 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: know that, So I think that's where it was hard 947 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: of I still in that moment you seem an episode 948 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: being like, well, I just don't know if she knows 949 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: what she's doing, But I think she did, because it 950 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: wasn't just oh, maybe her perception was different than reality. 951 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: She thought that she was the strongest relationship, because I 952 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 1: think we all thought we were the strongest relationship because 953 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: we don't see his conversations with the other girls. But 954 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: I think it was just actually the things she was 955 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: saying were false that there can't really be pure intentions 956 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: behind that when it's actually lies that we're being told 957 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: to us. Yeah. Yeah, it was like she was just 958 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: like throwing out her feelings for Clayton at breakfast to 959 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: the ground like it was intentional, it was targeted to 960 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: specific women, and it was and it was consistent. That's 961 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: the thing. It wasn't just like a one and done 962 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: situation watching everything back now being part of the Woman 963 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: Tell All and just you know, kind of putting a 964 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: boat on this chapter in your life watching everything, Is 965 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: there anything that completely shocked you that you wished you 966 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: would have addressed that just like you were blown away 967 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: when you saw or hurt it. I don't think so. 968 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: I think I think it honestly was just good closure 969 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: watching back because again I thought I did have the 970 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: strongest relationship just from my inner actions with him, and 971 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: watching it back it was it was honestly good to 972 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 1: see that he had a lot of other strong relationships too, 973 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: and it was good closure for me to realize, Okay, 974 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: maybe this girl actually does make more sense for him, 975 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: or maybe this girl did bring out a different side 976 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: of him that I didn't. I think the drama in 977 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: general just shocked me because I kind of stayed out 978 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: of it. If I heard someone raise their voice, I 979 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: would run in the other direction. So a lot of 980 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: the drama was shocking. To see a lot of Shane's 981 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: interviews that you know, none of us saw in the moment, 982 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: those were completely shocking. There's so much you miss when 983 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: you're not with the person in the interviewal like they 984 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: can really, as we've learned, spew whatever they want to 985 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: spe you out, and so like, what was that like 986 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: for you? And all the women hearing that? So crazy? 987 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: And I'll say for me and I do regret this. 988 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: Me and Susie, the were girls that really were honestly 989 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: kind of trying to argue Shane's point of view. I 990 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: was completely on the other side the whole time because 991 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: she was targeting my friends and I knew them. I 992 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: knew that shee was saying wasn't true. But I also 993 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: never want someone to feel ganged up on, so I 994 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: would try to be the voice of reason for Cheney 995 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: of maybe this is actually what she's meaning to do. 996 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: So I think watching those interviews back and saying, oh no, 997 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,760 Speaker 1: she really was just playing all of us. She really 998 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: came off, at least when I was around, is like 999 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: very like meek and like quiet, and she would be like, 1000 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I'm just sorry, like I just 1001 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: feel bullied, and then instantly we would see in an 1002 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: interview like I just checked all of those girls. So 1003 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: it was hard to watch just because I I was played, 1004 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: and that's something that I guess I got played a 1005 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,959 Speaker 1: lot during the season with some of the girls. But yeah, 1006 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: she was the most shocking for sure. Those interviews were crazy. 1007 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: None of us were expecting that, Like we knew Cheney 1008 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: had some issues and she was kind of crazy, but 1009 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: her interviews were a lot worse than I think any 1010 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: of us were ever imagining, right, Yeah, I had Queen 1011 00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: Victoria my season, so I can definitely saying shocking interview. 1012 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong, she is a shocking 1013 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: person all of the time in and out of interviews. 1014 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: But some of the things that I remember saying, I 1015 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: was like, whoa Victoria? Where did that one come from? Overall, 1016 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: now you've lived the season of the Bachelor, there's, like 1017 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: I said earlier, there's so much more to come. But ultimately, 1018 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: like now going through this, ye saying journey, But going 1019 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 1: through this journey, how has it changed you and just 1020 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: your outlook or approach to finding love in the future. Yeah, 1021 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it's changed it so much. I think 1022 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: while I was there, I never wanted to be completely 1023 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: honest of my feelings, especially it had to do with love, 1024 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: because I felt like, once you say that, you can't 1025 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: take it back, and once you say that, that's when 1026 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: the pain happens. But I think I realized, no, you're 1027 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,439 Speaker 1: going to feel pain either way. When I went home, 1028 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: I had to deal with heartbreak. Plus the fact that 1029 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: I did regret not being completely honest about how I 1030 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 1: was feeling. I always felt like I had more time 1031 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: with him, and I wanted to wait for these perfect moments. 1032 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: I think the biggest lesson that I learned was you 1033 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,720 Speaker 1: just have to create a perfect moment with the person 1034 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 1: that you're with. I'm a lot more open to love 1035 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 1: now because of this experience, and I am a lot 1036 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: more just able to feel what I want to feel. 1037 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot more courage and power 1038 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: and being vulnerable and just like wearing my heart in 1039 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: my sleep more than I feel like I have in 1040 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: the past. I love that those are great words, and 1041 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 1: I love that you just said it's about you creating 1042 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: that right moment. You know no one else or a 1043 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: show can't necessarily do that for you. I think there's 1044 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 1: so much power in those words. YEA, yeah, I think 1045 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: that's something I learned as well, is like it's not 1046 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: always about like where you are or what you're doing, 1047 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: It's like whatever feels like the perfect moment for you, 1048 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: and like when you feel ready, which is something I 1049 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: learned on Paradise. Would you go to the beautiful beaches 1050 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: of Mexico this summer if you were asked, Yeah, I'll 1051 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: say I think I completely believe in this experience. It 1052 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: didn't work out for me on the Bachelor. But I 1053 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: fully believe that if it's the right person, that this 1054 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: can work. And I think especially Paradise, you spend so 1055 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: much time with the person that you're with m I 1056 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: think if the Bachelor ever calls even asks you to 1057 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: do something, I think you should say yes. Obviously think 1058 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: about it, but I'll just say yes if if I 1059 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: am offered it, I think there's a good chance that 1060 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: I would go yay, Yeah, I'm getting a direct answer 1061 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: when we asked that question. How sometimes people don't know well. 1062 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: And I will see this coming from somebody who said 1063 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: no to Paradise for a long time before I actually 1064 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: said yes, say yes. It is so worth it if 1065 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: you're talking to two D. But I will say this, 1066 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: going through The Bachelor, Bachelorette, and Paradise. Out of all 1067 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: three of those seasons, Paradise was by far the most fun, 1068 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: like the most fun, like, you know, I'm so lucky 1069 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,959 Speaker 1: to have found Thomas and lasting love. But even just 1070 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: the scenario that it's co ed, you have equal male 1071 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 1: and female, and the food's great, the weather's incredible, Like 1072 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: it's just it's so worth it. If you can go, 1073 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: I would definitely say go which now, if you do 1074 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 1: go give me, don't don't hold back. Give me two 1075 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: to three guys that you would really want to see 1076 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: on that beach. Okay, I'll say, first of all, I 1077 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:34,280 Speaker 1: haven't met any of them in person. No, yeah, okay, 1078 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: well okay we have. We do know that somebody and 1079 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give it away. Somebody special did 1080 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: slide into your DMS that you talked about on Tell All. 1081 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: But apart from that, yeah, who's der DMS? No em, Yes, 1082 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: I asked rod the same question a couple of days ago. 1083 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no one sletting it ms, which might 1084 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: be a live but I'm eve at that. But I 1085 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 1: will say my three guys that I'm interested in. Um, 1086 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm very big on personality, and like again, like I've said, 1087 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: like my first initial reaction that I have to someone 1088 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: in person is really important to me, So I am 1089 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: open to anyone when I get there. Um, but right now, 1090 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: the guys that I am interested in would be Um 1091 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 1: Andrew Spencer. I've heard really great things about Brandon and 1092 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: then back in the day Ben Fromtatious Season. Um. Okay, 1093 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: those who I'm interested in. I also just met Rodney 1094 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: A couple of days ago when he's very keel. So 1095 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 1: I love Rodney. Oh my gosh, I could see this, 1096 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: I will say. So I'll be on tour with both 1097 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: Rodney and Andrew, so I'll get a feel for them. Yeah, 1098 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: I'll bet them for you and let me I think. 1099 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: I love I love that you throughout names like get it, Teddy. 1100 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: I feel like myself I didn't know who I actually 1101 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: wanted to me, like I genuinely that was my honest answer, 1102 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: Like I had no idea. But I feel like if 1103 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: I did have names, I would not have been confident 1104 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: to be like I can't let the world know that 1105 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,479 Speaker 1: I have as so good for you? Like that takes 1106 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: confidence and I like it. Well yeah, and it's like 1107 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: everyone has somebody that catches their eye, whether it's on 1108 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: the show or not. And so I hate when people 1109 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 1: play coy's like you could spew on anyone's name from 1110 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: about Yeah, you're not asking them to marry you. Okay, 1111 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 1: one more question, Teddy? What is next for you? You know, 1112 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: we know, maybe Paradise is on the horizon, fingers crossed. 1113 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: I would personally love to see you there, but right now, 1114 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: what are your next steps? I'm just gonna enjoy watching 1115 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I'm so excited to not 1116 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: see my face on TV for a little bit and 1117 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: just watch my best friends get back to work. I'm 1118 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: a nurse, so I'm going to start working. I get 1119 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: maybe go to the gym now that I'm going to 1120 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: be on Paradise. Yeah, girl, I was not invited yet, 1121 00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: So Okay, I'm sure that call will be coming very soon. 1122 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that I will reach out to 1123 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: I think just like enjoy my time. I made so 1124 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: many friends. I truly, I think this is so cliche, 1125 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: but I made friends that I really believe I will 1126 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: have forever. And I'm just excited to get to hang 1127 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 1: out with them in public and just really like root 1128 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: for each other. It was so fun at the tell 1129 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: after we just have like a giant slumber party. So 1130 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm just excited to be friends with each other and 1131 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: like just root for each other in public. And yeah, 1132 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm just happy for my life right now. So I'm excited. 1133 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: I love that. Well, I'm happy for your life too. 1134 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: There's so much wonderful fun things to come. I can't 1135 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: wait to hopefully see more of Miss Teddy. Okay, before 1136 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 1: we let you go. We play our Bachelor Superrelatives game, 1137 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: so it's basically rapid fire. Serena and I are going 1138 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: to ask you a most likely to question, and you'll 1139 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 1: just finish the sentence with one of the women that 1140 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: was on Clayton's season. So to kick it off, out 1141 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: of everyone on Clayton's season, who was most likely to 1142 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: get the party started? Oh, probably Genevieve. All right, who 1143 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 1: is most likely to get the ladies laughing? Gabby for sure? 1144 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: She is absolutely hilarious. What you see on TV is 1145 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: her in real life. She is hilarious. I love Gabby. 1146 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, I don't know. I mean, obviously we 1147 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: know she makes it to top three. I don't know 1148 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: who makes it all the way. But I would also 1149 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: love to see Gabby on Paradise. I feel like she 1150 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: would be fish. Yeah, okay. Who is the best cook? Oh? 1151 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I never really ate anyone's cooking. I 1152 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: think Elizabeth made a lot of food for people, though, 1153 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: so I'll give it to her. I think people have 1154 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 1: mentioned her two yeah, her and Kate. Who is the 1155 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: first person to wake up in the morning? Oh, I 1156 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: don't know who would wake up early in the morning. 1157 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: Because I was usually asleep. Susan got up the latest 1158 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: as though, I can say that even after my own heart. 1159 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 1: Who was miss congeniality? Oh, I would say Susie. Who 1160 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: had the best smile in the house? Um? I love 1161 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: Rachel's smile. It's so sweet and like, yeah, I would 1162 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: go with Rachel. Okay, best dressed? Oh Eliza, Yeah, she 1163 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: had a great Serene she had a really she had 1164 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: really good dresses. Yeah. Did um did Hunter go home 1165 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: in Serene's night one gown? I want to be surprised. 1166 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: We were switching dresses around every week. Gabby's first night 1167 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: dress I think was worn like four times. Yes, I 1168 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: think I've seen the photos on Instagram. Everyone wearries the 1169 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: same dress. Oh my god, yeah I saw it. Serrine 1170 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: definitely wore that like two weeks ago. Yeah, I love it. 1171 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: I love that you guys are all sharing clothes. Who 1172 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: is the biggest gossip m m Probably Shane in her interviews? Yeah, yeah, definitely. 1173 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: Who's most likely to see Clayton during the Oh? Wait, okay, 1174 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: who's most gay the Seal clan? First at a cocktail party? Um, 1175 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: she didn't make it far, but Cassidy definitely was the 1176 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: one that liked to get gone first. Yeah, oh yeah, 1177 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: go started in the middle of my question. It was 1178 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: the first to go to bed. Oh. I liked to 1179 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: get a lot of sleep. So me and Susie were 1180 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: in the same room in the mansion, and we both 1181 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: would be in beds, like looking across from each other, like, well, 1182 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: everyone else was up staying in late. Wait what room 1183 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: were you in? I was in one of those smaller rooms, 1184 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: so we had like a really good room. It was me, 1185 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: Rachel um Serene, Susie Mara. I'm leaving someone out and 1186 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to be happy. But did you get 1187 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: assigned your rooms in the mansion? Yeah, yeah, we couldn't, 1188 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: but it worked out perfectly because I became close with 1189 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: like all of them. Yeah. I was in the big room, 1190 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: which obviously had the most space, but like, I don't 1191 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: know what it was. Somebody brought seven suitcases and there 1192 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: was no extra walking room in there. So for like 1193 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: the two weeks, two or three weeks we were there, 1194 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: it was amazed. I would like have to tiptoe around. Yeah, 1195 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying. Molina was in my room too, 1196 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: and she brought like seven suitcases and we were in 1197 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: the small room. Oh god, it was you couldn't walk anywhere. 1198 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: We would be stepping on everything. Did anyone keep their 1199 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: luggage out on the balcony? Yes, okay, that's what we 1200 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: did too on the season. Imagine I mean the girl 1201 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: who brought seven suitcases and going home night one like 1202 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: that would just be so hurt break well. That was 1203 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: like one of the girls in r season. I love her. 1204 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,439 Speaker 1: Her name was Lauren Schler. She is still a dear friend. 1205 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: She's incredible. But she brought seven suitcases and went home 1206 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: within the first week. And and she and selfishly she 1207 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 1: had bluckily left some stuff because she went on on 1208 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: one and one and got some home. So she left 1209 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 1: like these this really great swimsuit, this really wonderful jean jacket, 1210 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: which Lauren, I still have your jean jacket to this day. 1211 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 1: It's it's in safe keeping. Um. But yeah, that's the 1212 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: one thing I will say about that's different from like 1213 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: Serena when you were on the season, when you had 1214 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: like your separate room. Oh yeah, just me and Rachel 1215 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: in like a gorgeous room with like a bathroom with 1216 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: a double sink in a bathtub in luxury. That's what 1217 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: people who tried to hot wire the TV. It did 1218 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: not work. Like people get so excited about being in 1219 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,479 Speaker 1: the mansion because obviously it's iconic, but what they don't 1220 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: realize is there's zero extra room for anything, especially at 1221 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: the beginning when there's so many women. It's it's crazy town, 1222 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: which I guess is a good segue into the next superlative. 1223 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Who was the messiest? I would have to say Malina, 1224 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: just because she was in my room. Her hair and 1225 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: her suitcases were everywhere, But I love her, Okay. Who 1226 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: is most likely to be found lounging by the pool? Oh? 1227 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Probably Gabby. She loved to just not do anything and 1228 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: just lay by the pool. But like, can someone bring 1229 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: me a drink? Everyone is Gabby for that one, all right? 1230 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Who and you can give us a couple names because 1231 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: I know one is tough for this one. But who 1232 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: is most likely to be a brides made in your wedding? 1233 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna have a long line of 1234 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: people because I just love everyone from my season. I 1235 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 1: would say the girls I got extremely close with. Definitely Rachel, 1236 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Definitely Hunter, Um. I got really close with Jill and 1237 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Lindsay Serene. I love so much, so you'll have a 1238 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 1: big party. Yeah, I have a huge bridal party, all right, Teddy, 1239 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 1: it has been so fun before we let you go. 1240 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: We have a little tradition here and Baucher Happy Hour, 1241 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: which we all go and share our rose and our thorn. 1242 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: So I'll kick it off. I'm gonna do just for 1243 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: the week that I watched. But you can do because 1244 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: you experienced so much, you can do overall your rose 1245 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: and thorne of the season. Okay, so my rose of 1246 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 1: the week during Hometowns, it has to go to Gabby's grandpa. 1247 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 1: I want him, like I said, to be my grandpa. 1248 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: He is incredible. He gets all of all of my 1249 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: roses for the entire season, and I am obsessed with him. 1250 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: My thorn is going to be the fact that Clayton 1251 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: sent one of the best stressed women home. I really 1252 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: like Serena. Was sad to see her go, and I'm 1253 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna miss seeing all of her incredible outfits. I know 1254 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: she's a good one. Okay, my rose, I have two 1255 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: roses this week. My first one is watching Clayton trying 1256 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: to jump off that really tall platform and like watching 1257 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: him like hype himself up, you like, come on, Clayton. 1258 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: It was absolutely hysterical and I could watch that on repeat. 1259 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: And then my second one is Rachel's the beginning of 1260 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: her hometown. Clayton's coming towards her and she's like trying 1261 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 1: to hype him up to do the run jump hug 1262 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 1: thing and she's like, are you gonna do it? Are 1263 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: you gonna do it? I've never seen that before. I 1264 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 1: thought it was so funny. She's so cute. And then 1265 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 1: my thorne of the week is going to be them 1266 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: not miking up Gabby's dad and just having him hold 1267 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Q cards with writing. I was so f straighted watching 1268 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: that whole scene because it was so beautiful. But I 1269 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: wanted him to speak to his daughter, like using his voice, 1270 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: say anything anything at all, literally hello, I love you 1271 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 1: at the end. It would have been perfect. I would 1272 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: say My rose was just probably the friendships that I made, 1273 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: and honestly a lot of the stuff that just couldn't 1274 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 1: be shown because it's only a two hour episode every week. 1275 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: But the girls got so close, Like we would have 1276 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: dance parties every night, we just sat around, we would 1277 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 1: talk about our childhoods and like we would just comfort 1278 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 1: each other and cry with each other. So I think 1279 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 1: just those moments that probably weren't really shown on the show, 1280 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: of us becoming real life best friends while we were 1281 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: there is my rose. My thorn is probably maybe just 1282 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 1: being a little bit naive to some of the girls 1283 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: and just allowing myself to be manipulated and then just 1284 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: not allowing myself to fully be open and honest about 1285 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: my feelings. But I think it was just a lesson learned, 1286 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for the few you're getting to just 1287 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: tell anyone that I love them right away. Well, we 1288 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 1: are excited to see what your future holds. Study It 1289 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 1: has been such a pleasure having you on. Thank you 1290 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: for joining us. And like I said earlier, I hope 1291 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: we see more of you in a very special, warm 1292 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,439 Speaker 1: place one day. Yeah, you take care of Teddy. Thank you, Eddie. 1293 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: She's so sweet, I have to say. I mean, we 1294 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: did not see nearly enough of her on camera throughout 1295 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 1: this season, but from everything that I've heard from people 1296 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 1: who know her, from the contestants to the producers, they 1297 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: all have nothing but sweet, sweet things to say about her. 1298 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 1: So I'm so glad we're finally finally able to have 1299 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: her on. Yeah, I like Teddy so much. This was 1300 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: such a fun interview to do with her, and I 1301 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 1: am really hoping we see her in Paradise this season. 1302 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just get a good feeling 1303 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: about her time and her journey there, and I just 1304 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: love love and I want everyone from this season to 1305 01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 1: find it firmly on a beach in I know, well, 1306 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, we're we might be a 1307 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 1: little biased to the beaches of Paradise, but yeah, don't 1308 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 1: be right. Sucks most days, but then it ends up 1309 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: so magical. I loved it, I know, I mean that 1310 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 1: I have different feelings towards Paradise. I was also very 1311 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm like downplaying and now I was so anxious the 1312 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: entire time, Like I'm making it seem like it was 1313 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: the best month of my life. It truly wasn't. But 1314 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 1: looking back now, I'm nothing but fond memories. So I 1315 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: really hope she and other deserving people from the past 1316 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: seasons can go and experience that as well. Such a 1317 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 1: pleasure to have Teddy on. There's a lot that goes 1318 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 1: down during Women Tall All. I mean, you guys, you 1319 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: will truly not want to miss this. So many shocking moments, 1320 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 1: so many shocking things that were said that like even 1321 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: for me, who I feel like I've seen and done 1322 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 1: everything in this franchise, Like I'm still blown away by everything. 1323 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: So please make sure you tune in next week. It's 1324 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different week, so Monday will 1325 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: actually be Women Tall All and then Tuesday will be 1326 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 1: Fantasy Suite. So we have a lot to cram into 1327 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: in these next two weeks before the finale. But Serena, 1328 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 1: thank you again for joining me today. 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