1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. It's me Jason McIntyre, 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Straight Fire. Wednesday, December second, very big episode of the 3 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: podcast today, Total Curveball. I'll get to that shortly in 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: our great guest. Obviously you read the iTunes or Spotify 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: or I Heart Radio description of our guests. We'll get 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: to him shortly. Quick note um, I will be offering 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: a best bet right now on Pittsburgh and Baltimore. The 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: game is supposed to be played later today. If it's canceled, 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'll do. I need Chase Claypool 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: to deliver me fifteen points to win my fantasy matchup. 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: And I do believe the Steelers of the side here. 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I don't love the number. If you saw J K. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Dobbins and mark Ingram, enough time has passed from their 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: COVID positive, they've had enough negatives that they are eligible 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: to play, so r G three will have some help. 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: And the Ravens did run four um two yards in 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: the earlier meeting. I frankly don't care. I'm taking Pittsburgh here. 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: I know it's a big number in a rivalry game, 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: there's just too much uncertainty swirling around the Ravens right now. Pittsburgh, Yes, 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: they're undefeated, they're probably a little ticked off in this game. 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I think the better place probably Pittsburgh in the first half. 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: Just come out and smash Baltimore. UM, I don't trust 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: r G three at all. Our Lamar has struggled big 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: time in two meetings with the Steelers. He's been sacked 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: nine times and he has seven turnovers. Uh. The idea 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: that r G three is gonna put together some uh 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes like performance is laughable. So give me the Steelers. 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Favored by ten as the best bet. We did win 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: luck Box City best bet on Monday Night Football. I 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: will have the record tomorrow. I'm sorry to be tardy 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: totaling it. Thanksgiving has me a little backed up. But nevertheless, 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: uh college football note, I'm not gonna do anything on 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Kirk curb Street. I'm sure you guys saw what happened 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: on the College Football Reveal show. Kirk curb Street offering 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: maybe it was informed speculation or just popping off for 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: whatever reason because he's a Buckeye, that maybe Michigan would 37 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: find a reason not to play Ohio State and then 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: the Buckeyes would not have enough games under their belt 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: to qualify for the playoff. I'm just not touching it. 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: I have no idea if there's anything there, I don't 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's a terrible look for 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: herb Street because he quickly apologized. It happens. People say stuff. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: It's live television. I I did it for a couple 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: of years, uh four years now at FS one. Uh. 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: It ain't easy, you know, you make mistakes, you say 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: the wrong thing, and people call you out. And he 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: apologized quickly. So we're past that, all right. Let's get 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: to our guest. Um, we'll talk about how it came about. 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: His name is Nimesh Patel. He's a comedian. He did 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: the Joe Rogan podcast last year, so now he's slumming 51 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: it on a sports podcast. You will find out his 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: sports interest. It'll probably surprise you. But this is a 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: little bit of a curveball. I just thought we'd changed 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: it up a little bit. I'll give you the background 55 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: on how this came about, but I really hope you 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: guys enjoy it without further ado. Nimesh Patel Jason likes 57 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: to think he knows everything when it comes to sports. 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: I know what sports stands want, but for everything he doesn't, 59 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 60 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows he knows another guy. All right, 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: let's welcome into the podcast a special guest. He's not 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: from the sports world. You guys are gonna love the 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: non sports aspect of this. And I know we've hammered 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: you know, NFL, NBA, gambling, all that fun stuff. And 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: I would say maybe six months to a year ago, 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: my brother put me onto a comedian because he has 67 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: desires to uh move out to l A and be 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: a comedian. He put me onto this guy and his 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: name is Nimesh Patel, Indian guy. Obviously, you guys know 70 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: my background. I've done the twenty three and me, I've 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of Indian I grew up, you know, 72 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: my mom's obviously comes from an Indian background. And I 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: became a big fan of this guy. And he put 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: out a bat signal saying, Hey, I'm willing to go 75 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: on people's podcasts a couple of weeks back, and I 76 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: quickly my brother instantly messaged me on Instagram, Oh you 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: gotta get him, get him. So I sent a message 78 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: and I was like yo, how about it? And he's 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: like sure, so let's welcome in, Nemesh Patelmes. How are you, man, 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: good man, thank you for making the time. I'm glad 81 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: to be here. Uh. You don't strike me as part 82 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: of Indian at all. So I'm curious to hear this story. Yes, yes, 83 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: I know. I get that all the time. Man. I 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: used that to pick up girls back in the day. 85 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was. Are you Portuguese, are 86 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: you Spanish? Your yeah, whatever, But I want to start 87 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: with your story first of all. Listen, we'll get to 88 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: your sports interests and folks. He said he hasn't watched 89 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: an NFL game this season, but he's a Lakers fan. 90 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: And I see in the background of his zoom here 91 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: he's got uh Kobe Bryant book. So a Lakers fan 92 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: right from from Jersey. Yes, sir, there's a lot of 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: us whereas quiet majority. Yeah. So the mess obviously a 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: big deal on the comedy circuit Um Instagram, Twitter. He 95 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: did the Joe Rogan show. I gotta ask you right 96 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: out of the gate um. That's like every podcaster's dream 97 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: right now to make it to Rogan's podcast. Uh, let's 98 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: just start with how that came about and why it did. 99 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: I know, it's some controversy behind it. If you don't 100 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: want to do that, hey, that's fine. But just the 101 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Rogan aspect, well yeah, I mean, well, after the Columbia 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: incident happened, which is a funny, goofy way to talk 103 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: about it wasn't really an incident. It was just a thing. Um. 104 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I had a friend who was like, Yo, you should 105 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: go on Rogan and talk about this. I was like, yeah, sure, 106 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: that's easy. Um. And then another friend of mine um 107 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: sent Joe the New York Times op ed that I 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: wrote about the whole thing, and Joe hit me up. 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, come and talk about uh 110 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: what happened to you at Columbia. And I was like, 111 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: that was like the only podcast as I wanted to 112 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: hop on to talk about it. You know, like a 113 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: bunch of people hit me up like yo, come talk 114 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: and you know air air or whatever you at the air, 115 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: And I was like, uh, you know, I'll either say 116 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: what I have to say via the Times and then 117 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: nothing else, or you know, Joe hits me up or 118 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: or someone of that level of caliber like let's me 119 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: clear the air and then I'll do that. But after that, 120 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: before that, I was like, I'm not talking to anybody 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: about any of this because I just felt like Joe's 122 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: was a place where I could speak most freely, um 123 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: about everything that had happened. And uh, I think starting then, 124 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: I became very conscious of what media stuff I did, 125 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: just in general. I didn't want I could see myself 126 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: easily falling the trap. Was just like being on every 127 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: fucking show and all this kind of stuff. And it 128 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: was like Tucker Carlson hit me up, but I was like, 129 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: get the funk out of here, you know, come on, 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Tuck um. Uh. But it was just like Joe was 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: just very welcoming um and hit me up. I was like, 132 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: come through. I was like, all right, cool, I'm gonna 133 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: be in l A. I'd love to come, uh talk 134 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: some ship with you. My only regret about doing that 135 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: is not getting high with him. Uh. But that was 136 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: probably for the best because when if I if I 137 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: I feel like Joe probably has like rapper weed or 138 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, like celebrity weed, and I probably wouldn't have 139 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: been able to handle it. Brooklyn, they got I remember 140 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: when we lived in New York before I got engaged 141 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: to the wife and all that fun stuff. There was 142 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: a delivery service. I mean this was early two thousands, 143 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: and they would they would pull up with some good stuff. 144 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Buddy of mine was big into that. And uh yeah, 145 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you're in Brooklyn, now, how's 146 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: the Is there a delivery service still? Oh yeah, man, listen, damn, 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: you haven't been in New York in a long time. Yeah. 148 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: We as soon as I started this website and sold it, 149 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: we could live anywhere. We're like, we're not starting a 150 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: family in Brooklyn. This was before it was cool. Really. 151 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah, I mean no, it's it's only gotten 152 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: easier to get weed. Um, It's just it's everywhere. Uh. 153 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: And if I wanted to text someone right now, I 154 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: could have a daily reservice person here in like two 155 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: hours and it would be like high quality stuff. I 156 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: mean I've had this stuff in l a um, and 157 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: obviously there's no real comparison, but it's pretty close the 158 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: stuff here we have. UM, and I'm a big fan 159 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: of it. Uh, I'm on a I'll say, like two 160 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: three week break from it. Um. Just like I feel 161 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: like this year I just smoked way too much and 162 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I could feel like even like the little working out 163 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: that I do suffered a bit, and I was like, 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe just chill out for a second. Yeah, well, 165 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: let's go to that. This year has been weird, and 166 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about identity real quick. So 167 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: obviously your identity is your a comedian. You're right, jokes. 168 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: You work with Chris Rock, he does something Kevin Hard 169 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: I believe. I was reading in your bio like, I mean, 170 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: you're at the up of the food Chaine. I mean, man, listen, 171 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: that's how it is. Your people see you, hear your 172 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: name instantly. Oh yeah, funny comedian. And like I had 173 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: struggled with identity during the pandemic because I was like, oh, 174 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: he's the guy who talks about sports and gambles and 175 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: sports was shut down and I was a guy who 176 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: went to the gym and worked out and played basketball 177 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: with buddies and you can't do that. And I coached 178 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: my kids in sports. You can't do that. And I'm 179 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: sitting here like doing nothing in l A. And it's like, Chucks, 180 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: what's my identity? Did you have any of those issues 181 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: you know here in the last nine months. Yeah, I mean, 182 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: that's a great question. You know, I think what uh, 183 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: I think. What I learned the most about this year 184 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: was how to adapt to the situations where you know, 185 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: like this whole time up until um, up until this year, 186 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: really it was like Okay, do this and then hopefully 187 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: this will happen due and then like constantly kind of 188 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: repeating that cycle, um, you know, with different peaks and alleys, 189 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: but uh more or less being the same kind of person. 190 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Whereas this year, once quarantine hit, I was like, fuck, 191 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: like immediately recognized I was not gonna be able to 192 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: be the same comedian because obviously I wouldn't be getting 193 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: on stage um and moreover, like I wasn't I'm not 194 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: a comic where I can go out and just be like, oh, 195 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a tour together, and then to have 196 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: that tour happened, you know what I mean. Like I'm 197 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: still here trying to spread my wings. And so I 198 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: put my hour out on YouTube in March, um, just 199 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: on like a you know, fortunate favors the brave, fuck 200 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: it kind of mentality, and I did that and that 201 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: was like and once that kind of took off in 202 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: like April, it was like a month and a half 203 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: lag time between when I put it out and when 204 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: the algorithm caught it and started making me think, oh, shift, 205 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: I might be onto something. And then I just kept 206 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: feeding the algorithm with like tons of clips and stuff. 207 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: But what I learned identity wise was Okay, there's stuff 208 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: I can't do that it is so ingrained to me, 209 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: like getting on stage and telling Joe's And that took 210 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: a page from Kobe's book of like I've got to 211 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: be improving all the time, and and I was just 212 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: getting into the groove of improving my stand up. I 213 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: was like, what can I be doing that I can't 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: get on stage? I can enhance the skill sets that 215 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: once I'm allowed to be back on stage, The skills 216 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: gets I can enhance that are like not necessarily tangible 217 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: skill sets. Uh, what can I enhance it be better 218 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: at while on lockdown? Um, that will make me better 219 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: when I get, you know, free again. And so that's 220 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: really kind of the mentality that I adopted, um consciously, 221 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: like I gotta get on some Momba ship and just 222 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: fucking work at everything else that I can be doing 223 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: that isn't necessary tied to being on stage, you know. 224 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I do I do wonder though a lot 225 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: of your stuff is like life experiences. It it seems 226 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I'm watching your videos and I'm like, 227 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: what kind of life experiences could you have when you 228 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: can't do anything for three months? Yeah, at least do 229 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: you almost find yourself? Now? Hey man, I've got to 230 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: be out there. I've got to travel just so I 231 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: see ship and then I working into my routine. Yeah, 232 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that was again like and that's 233 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: a great question, but like that was again a matter 234 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: of adapting, you know, like, Okay, my comedy was so observational, 235 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: whether it be observational about something that happened during the 236 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: day or observational about like society at large. I can 237 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: be making those society at large observations. But if I'm not, 238 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: If if every one of my days is the same 239 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: more or less, like what what what do I have 240 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: to do? And that really forced me to look inward 241 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: and start taking uh chances at writing about personal stuff 242 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: and what I've been meaning to write a lot about 243 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: how I grew up and my family and uh things 244 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: that are anecdotes or whatever. And I was like, maybe 245 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: this is the sign that I should be doing that, 246 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: because you know, the first hour that I put out, 247 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: the first album I put out, was pretty I mean, 248 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: I had personal elements, but it was pretty uh social 249 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: commentary as opposed to you know, this goofy should happen 250 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: to me this day, you know, or this thing happened 251 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: or or this is happening in the world. I was like, Okay, 252 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: maybe I can look inward and start thinking about uh, 253 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: you know, family stuff, funny anecdotes and and that's what 254 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: I'll be working on in one like this Hotel a 255 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: half hour special that I put out just the last month. 256 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: Um was really like my my cap on uh the 257 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: year and observing what happened in the year. And I 258 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: started segueing into more personal stuff towards the second half 259 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: of the half hour, and you know, come it's gonna 260 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: I'll likely be a lot more personally and that's a 261 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: that's a great way to handle it. But I do 262 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: wonder do you have that struggle? How much do I 263 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: reveal to people on the personal life? Uh. Not to 264 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: go back to Rogan again, but I don't think he 265 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: talks a lot about his family. And I will say this, 266 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: my parents both listened to the podcast. My brother obviously 267 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: have it. I have relatives who are into it, and 268 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: when I referenced them in some way, shape or form, 269 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: even not by name, you know, they hear about it. 270 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Most of them like it. And then I go on 271 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: the radio, which they don't usually listen to, and I'm 272 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: much more willing to share. But on some of the 273 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: more personal stuff, I don't like. My wife, she doesn't 274 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: like it when I'm mentioning her. The kids love it, obviously, 275 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, if I do a TV hit, but how 276 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: do you how do you handle the personal revelations versus 277 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: just keeping it back? I think, uh, I think the 278 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: balance comes from if something so funny that it has 279 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: to be said on stage, then I will do it. 280 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: You know. Like my favorite bit from my last to 281 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: tel thing that I put out was a true story 282 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: about how my parents saw me smoking weed for the 283 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: first time, because I did like a live stream smoking weed, 284 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: and my mom was upset and my dad was upset, 285 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: and then, uh, you know, I went home like two 286 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: weeks later to to just hang out with them for 287 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: like a day. And it was like two weeks before 288 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: the New Jersey had weed on the ballot and my 289 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: dad was voting by mail, and he literally He literally 290 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: looked at the thing, looked at the circle to fill in, 291 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: looked at me, said nope, and then said and then 292 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: build it in. And I was like, come on, man, 293 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: just look and that's like too funny to not, you know, 294 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: put on. But there's other personal stuff where it's just 295 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: like that's funny. But you know, some things I want 296 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: to keep for myself, Like I'm kind of selfish. Like 297 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: my wife that's funny ship all the time, but it's 298 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: like that's between her and I and I want to 299 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: keep that kind of private. And I've also made a 300 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: conscious decision that if I'm gonna if I'm going to 301 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: make jokes about my family or personal stuff, that I 302 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: will be the brunt of the joke, you know. Like 303 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: I think in the first hour that I put out, 304 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: there's one or a joke or two at my wife's expense. Um, 305 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: and she was fine with it because they were too 306 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: funny to not that she understood the ridiculousness of the 307 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: situations that I was talking about. But uh, now I'll 308 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: make it a point to make fun of myself, you know, 309 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: put it on me, because hey, that's funnier and my 310 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: family is so much funnier than I am. Uh like 311 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: just just not maybe not ness on paper or joke 312 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: writing was, but like the things they say, the way 313 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: they act, the way they behave, it's just so freaking 314 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: funny to me. And no one's made me laugh more. 315 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: So it's like a balance I gotta strike between uh 316 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: revealing their names and goofy ship that they do and 317 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: making the punchline about me. I want to keep on 318 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: the family theme, but take it back a little bit. 319 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people out there in the 320 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: mesially now in who are like, maybe this is my chance, 321 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I take a chance and try something wild. And 322 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, both of our parents, uh, they came to America, 323 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, many many years ago, hoping to give a 324 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: better uh future for their kids. And um, even though 325 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: my family is not fully Indian, um, they definitely hundred 326 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: thousand percent. When I was in elementary school with my brother, 327 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: you guys have to be doctors. You have to be 328 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: a doctor. That's what every Indian family wanted for their kids. 329 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: So you were on that track. I read that you 330 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: went to n y U, you were premed and all that, 331 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm assuming that was to please your parents. Well, no, 332 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, my my my dad never really uh 333 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: said you gotta be anything. He was just like, you know, 334 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: just be happy and working. And my dad's pretty stoic, 335 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: quiet guy. Um, you know, he's worked out of a 336 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: liquor store since he was seventeen, so he's just like 337 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 1: pretty even killed and like just understands, you know, just 338 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: be happy and live a simple life. That's kind of 339 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: like his m O. Now, my mom uh was the 340 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: one who was like this, you have to be a 341 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: doctor or you know, get an advanced degree, because you know, 342 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: I'd never want to worry about you and making money. 343 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: It was never really like be a doctor because you 344 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: have to be a Doctor's more like be a doctor 345 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: because it's a fantastic job and you won't have to worry. Um, 346 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: regardless of what happens, people will always need doctors. And 347 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: that was a very strong point. It's been never more 348 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: clear than this year that how important physicians and the 349 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: medical community is. But at the same time, I also 350 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: kind of drank the kool it it, you know. I 351 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: was like I remember in junior year of of high school, 352 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna be a pediatric cardiothoractic surgeon, 353 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: Like that was my goal. Uh like that specific you know, 354 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: like I had a family, my dad. One of my 355 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: dad's friends had a little kid who had a heart condition, 356 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: and I took to that kid. I was like, this 357 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: is like interesting and I really want to help kids. 358 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: And I just thought the heart was such a fascinating 359 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: Uh it's marvel of God's engineering. That's what the heart 360 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: really is. And I was like, I want to do that. 361 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: And then junior year of college, I gotta C plus 362 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: and aar go one. I was like, maybe I don't 363 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: want to do this, but you know it's like uh 364 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: And I remember quitting being premed, having that conversation with 365 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: my mom and I will never forget what I was 366 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: when I told her I was in my bedroom UM, 367 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: in my apartment in uh East Village, and I remember 368 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: calling her like I dropped or go to UM and 369 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: it was like fucking like the phone broke. You know, 370 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: it was crazy, but you know it's worked out. I guess, yeah, 371 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: it's just a little bit. But how do you make 372 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: that pivot to, uh, what you're gonna do with n y? 373 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: You You don't just say, you know what, I think 374 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: I'll go into comedy, Like how did that how did 375 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: that come about? Well, I mean, so I was pre 376 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: med when I joined m y U. I was taking 377 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: all premed classes that might see my freshman year, and 378 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: I did well enough that I could transfer to like 379 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: the Undergrod Business school um Stern School. Business is the 380 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: undergrad business school, And I was like, let me just 381 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: it's an internal transfer, so it shouldn't be that difficult. 382 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: On top of that, I had pretty strong grade, so 383 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: I just transferred to the business school so I could 384 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: like have a fine dants degree as well. And all 385 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: my all my elective classes were all my premed classes, 386 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: so instead of taking like sculpture, I was taking like, 387 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, physics to as a fucking you know, as 388 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: my as my uh pre wreck and or my elective breather. 389 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: And then when I dropped premed, I was still a 390 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: finance major, so I graduated a finance degree. Um didn't 391 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, did not get hired at 392 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: an investment bank like most of my friends. And I 393 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: was like, all right, funk, what am I gonna do? 394 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: And I hadn't you know. What I realized is if 395 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: your heart is not in something, you won't pursue it 396 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: the way you would if your heart is fully in something, 397 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: you know, like I never. I never fully pursued like 398 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: all the other job opportunities I could have had had 399 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: I actually wanted to be a finance person, you know, 400 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: like I had you know, an economics major who became 401 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: like um, who joined like a finance team elsewhere, and 402 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: uh and a bunch of friends who like weren't bankers, 403 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: but we're still working in finance and making tons of money. 404 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? Ended up bouncing around and 405 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: unemployed for like a year. And then in two thousand nine, Um, 406 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: I took a writing class, uh, like a sappy writing 407 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: class at m y U, like a you know, one 408 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: of their post graduate certificate classes or whatever. And I 409 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: was like, this ship is corny, and uh I went 410 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: back to the drawing boards, like I really like laughing 411 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: and making people laugh. I never had stage fright, and 412 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: uh I went out stage in August of two thousand nine. 413 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: And now now I'm here talking to wait wait wait 414 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: August two thousand nine, like let us know when the 415 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: Chris Rock part happens. Obviously, you know Landmark comedian, my 416 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: favorite guy of all time. So so how do you 417 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: go from like oh, I'm applying to all the business 418 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: opportunities coming out of college. I get nothing and then 419 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Chris Rock notices me. How long does that 420 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: take and how did the parent handle that? Man? Because 421 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: dropping out of med school to being unemployed that that 422 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: doesn't go over well with many families, especially Indian family. No, no, 423 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I wouldn't go over with anybody. But 424 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, you know, I was unrecruited 425 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: by all the coaches, and I was like, I gotta 426 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: show these motherfucker's. Um. It was like, it's two thousand 427 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: nine that I started comedy and then um, two years later, Uh, 428 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: one of my friends approached me um to like be 429 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: a resident at a stand up show, meaning like I 430 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: would get to go on every every night. And that 431 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: friend was Mike Denny Um, and he approached me and 432 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: my good friend at the time, Michael jay Um, to 433 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: like be residents of the show, and we ended up 434 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: starting a show and like growing the show called Broken 435 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Comedy over like several years to the point where in 436 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: two thousands fifteen it was like the hottest show in 437 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: New York or one of the hottest shows, if not 438 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: the hottest show in New York and and um, what's 439 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: it called one of our comics that night, the night 440 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: of you know, I forget that. It was like August 441 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: the two thousand, uh fifteen actually, come to think of it, 442 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: um six years later. Uh. One of the comics, Lankston 443 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: Kerman was gonna be performing and someone was looking at 444 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: him for a pilot and they wanted Chris attached to 445 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: the pilot, and so Chris had to come see him, 446 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: and he lanks was on my show and Chris was 447 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: coming to my show to watch Langston and Chris is late. 448 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: So I was like, I guess I'll go up because 449 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: no one else is here. Um, and then I see 450 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Chris come in. I'm like, now I'm definitely going up, 451 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: you know. And so I went up and I kind 452 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: of like just had one of these flu game blackout 453 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: moments are just like like this life is on the line, 454 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: and uh, I just heard Chris laugh once and that 455 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: was it. Like I don't remember anything after that, And 456 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: it was just like I did like ten twelve minutes 457 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: of just like a got off on big laugh, walked 458 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: outside of the performance room and just like I took 459 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: a breather. He watched Langston after me. Then he came 460 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: out and I I was like, hey man, you're really funny. 461 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: I was like, get the funk. It looked like he 462 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: looked confused. I was like, oh my god, so was 463 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: this wait wait was this one on one you guys 464 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: are talking or is there are other people around? There 465 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: was a few, a few of my friends were like 466 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: hanging out, but it was like, like it's hard to 467 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: It was nuts. I mean, he didn't really talk to me. 468 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: He was just like, hey man, you're really funny. I 469 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: was like, you're thank you, you're Chris Rock. And then 470 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: and then he you know, left UM and uh that 471 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: was it. And then a few months later he got 472 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: the OSCARS hosting job. UM, and I got an email 473 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: from the person he had brought to that show to be, hey, man, 474 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: Chris wants you to write for the Oscars. UM, you 475 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: can expect to you and expect a call from the Academy. 476 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, what, I've spoken to you in 477 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: three months. And then sure enough, like two days later, 478 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: my manager got a call from UM the academy, uh, 479 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: the people that were on the Oscars, and they hired 480 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: me and they were like, Chris wants animus to help 481 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: him write for the Oscars and it was like a 482 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: team of like twenty people, but it was just insane 483 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: to be on that team. You know, It's like my 484 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: first writing job from undrafted because that was a I 485 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: remember that summer is being like a very bleak summer 486 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: for me because the job, the finance job I had, 487 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: the CEO had just resigned, um, and so I had 488 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: like six months left in that job, and I had 489 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: just been rejected from the Just for Last Comedy Festival 490 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: for like the third time. UM, and I was like 491 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: so fucking like subconsciously and consciously just like annoyed with 492 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: comedy and just like all of it. And then you know, 493 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: like two days later, you know, Chris is like that's 494 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: that guy'shilarious, and I was like, funk, what what else 495 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: do I need? You know, It's like I felt like 496 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: undrafted to fucking you know, on an All Star felt 497 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: like granted it wasn't that, but that's what it felt like. 498 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: You know, at any level, were you close to quitting 499 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: company and just saying you know, okay, good because there's 500 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there, man, we're gonna listen 501 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: to this to be like, dude, I'm in that spot. 502 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: I want to quit this and it's gonna want to bail. 503 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: You know it was it was more of function. I 504 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: mean it was a function of a egos like I'm 505 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: not quitting, I can't quit this, and also like the 506 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: funk else am I gonna do? You know, like all 507 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: I've spent the last five six years cultivating this talent 508 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: and as unrecognized and recognized as the talent is. At 509 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: that time, I was like, I really now I can't 510 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: quit a because I need to keep going personally and 511 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: be because all these motherfucker's will be like we knew it. 512 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not letting you have that. Given that 513 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Thames, my whole thing speak is gonna be 514 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: just me reading Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame speech. I'm 515 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: just gonna I'm just gonna repeat. I'm just gonna replace 516 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: all the names with people that I feel like, Yeah, 517 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: that slighted you. No, No, I feel that. You know again, 518 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: you were like very good student on the medical path, 519 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: on the business path, and for whatever reason, I don't 520 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: know where you are with destiny, but do you feel 521 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 1: like this is where you this is your calling, this 522 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: is what you were put on the planet to do. 523 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: Like Diego Maradona died last week and one of the 524 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: greatest soccer players ever. I watched those highlight reels of 525 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: him just juggling a soccer ball and like he was 526 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: put on this planet to play soccer, There's no question 527 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: about that. And hearing your story, I do kind of 528 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: feel like you were put here to be a comedian, 529 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: Like it's it's meant to be. I mean, I think 530 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: that's the one of the reasons I like athletes so 531 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: much is because they're not afraid to let that sort 532 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: of spirituality and stars aligning mentality kind of drive them. 533 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: And uh, my favorite I hate quoting a Nike commercial, 534 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: but when that commercial, when Michael goes, when Jordans goes, um, 535 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: I have something more important encourage, I have patience. I 536 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: will become what I know I am. That's kind of 537 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: like subconsciously tattooed on me. But uh, you know that 538 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: moment when Chris came, I think back at that and like, 539 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: think back, you know, the stars were aligning because Chris, 540 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: if Chris were Chris were on time. If if that 541 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: show like my show, granted it was like the hottest 542 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: show in the world, it was also one of the 543 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: most difficult comedy rooms, Like people would bomb there all 544 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: the time, even it would be a full last room 545 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: and people would bomb give me especially like I would 546 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: bomb there consistently, um. And you know, the first comic 547 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: that usually went up on the nut, I would eat 548 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: a dick um. And I wasn't first. I was second. 549 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: But Kevin McCaffrey went out first and just leveled the 550 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: place like it he destroyed. And I was like, oh shit, 551 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: all right, you know, I gotta go Mary and rivera 552 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: this ship, you know, just to be the closer on 553 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: this month, because he opened it so strong and it 554 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: was just like this, and he was and Chris was late, 555 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: and there was no like the stars is perfectly aligned 556 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: that evening, you know. And I think back at that 557 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: moment all the time, because now, you know, a few 558 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: years later, I'm all about being able to recognize when 559 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: the stars are aligning for you. And I think that's 560 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: been really keeping me going, is that you have to 561 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: recognize the signs of the the universe is sending um. And 562 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: I've pride to myself on my ability to do that 563 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: now and I kind of want to share that message. 564 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: It's like, YO, be conscious and know that the universe 565 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: will be aligning for you, and then you have to 566 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: recognize when it is um and really fucking enjoy that moment, 567 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: flourishing it. Yeah, that's deep and heavy, but it's real. 568 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: I do have to ask. Man. I get a lot 569 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: of static because I was born in New York, UM, 570 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: and I'm a Laker fan, and they're like, how do 571 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: you like the Lakers in the Knicks? Man? That's not 572 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: really in the first game my dad ever took me 573 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: to Madison Square Garden Knicks Lakers. We were in town, um, 574 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: and we got lucky to get tickets, and I was 575 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: just smitten with Magic Johnson, this this point guard, and 576 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I started liking the Lakers and Knicks. I was a 577 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: little kid. What did I know? And I keep hearing 578 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: you referenced Jordan's Uh, Kobe, how are you not a 579 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: Knicks fan from Jersey? Man? How is that so? So? 580 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: I consciously remember like one of my first NBA I 581 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: never went to. Uh my dad never took me to 582 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: a game when I was a kid, um, but he 583 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: was a Knicks fan. But like kind of vaguely remember 584 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: like ninety three because I was born in eighty six, 585 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: I was like seven at the time, like vaguely remember 586 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: that time. I'm watching the playoffs and being like, Jordan's 587 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: this guy is a fucking motherfucker yea, and my dad 588 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: would always be like defeated, like oh again, like you know, 589 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I love my dad out 590 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: of see and the Knicks if I didn't have another 591 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: team to root while root for the Knicks, but I 592 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of I fell in love with Jordan's and just 593 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 1: like what he represented more so than the Bulls, just 594 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: like Mike, you know. And so I was rooting for him. 595 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: And then when he retired, there was a lull in 596 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: my interest in the game. And the next person that 597 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: kind of and I would say it was like ninety 598 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: eight that he retired, right, So I was like twelve, 599 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: just in puberty, was like I'm gonna start hitting my girls. 600 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about basketball, and I was 601 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, all the ship. And I was 602 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: also like, you know, about to go into middle school, 603 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, I got really smart middle school 604 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: because I was killing it in the elementary and so 605 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: was killing elementary school. And uh, there was a lull 606 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: in my interest in the in the game and general 607 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I was playing a lot more, but I wasn't like 608 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: watching as much. And then when the Pistons played the Lakers. 609 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: My one of my oldest cousins is from Detroit, and 610 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: he was in Jersey, UM when the Pistons were playing 611 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: the Lakers for the playoffs, and that kind of reignited 612 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: my interest in the game itself. UM. And I had 613 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: loosenly been aware of Kobe and Shack and all the 614 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: work they were doing in two thousands in that era, 615 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: but I was like, uh, man, this mother Like I 616 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: finally accepted that he was the next He was Jordan's 617 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: reincarnated almost, and I was like that. And I loved 618 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: his game. And more than his game, I loved his mentality. 619 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a killer and and I don't 620 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: know if that was who he was as a young 621 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: athlete when he was like, you know, I think he 622 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of grown pains. But when he became 623 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: to finally flourish and he had to fucking under by it, 624 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: and was just like, I'm the motherfucker. I'm that motherfucker. 625 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I like this. There's something about him 626 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: intrinsically that I very much appreciate. UM as an athlete 627 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: and as the human being and the drive that kind 628 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: of the way he drove himself as kind of how 629 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to approach anything I did. And I didn't 630 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: do that subconsciously, you know my you know up until 631 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: maybe like three years ago. Um, but that is that's 632 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: like the real story, Like why I became a Laker 633 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: fan of Kobe fans because of Kobe and now Lebron 634 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: carrying that tord, she's just like solidified it. But if 635 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: I were to be honest and reckon with my real 636 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: uh fandom, it's more I'm more interested in like the 637 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: guys that are driving the teams and like how they 638 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: approached the game. Like if if Lebron stopped playing, I 639 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: might become a Bucks fan only because I love you honest, 640 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, like or or Russell, because I love I 641 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: love the way Westbrook approaches Again, he's a monster. I 642 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: just I just like his mentality. Oh man, you just 643 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: lost me dude. Wait okay, let's back up for sex. 644 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: So where are you on the whole Lebron Kobe Jordan's discussion. 645 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: I personally, I mean I don't need to get into mind. 646 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: Let's hear yours. I mean, that's that's a loaded question, 647 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: because I appreciate all three of them. I'm a die hard. 648 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm a die hard Kobe fan in the sense that 649 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: I think his game was not the most complete, just 650 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: the most killer. I just like, you know, it's like 651 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: if someone's two point oh somebody, are they better? I 652 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: would think so. That said, six rings speaks a lot 653 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: more than five? Does five speaks more than four? But 654 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Lebron's game is undoubtedly a lot more complete, right, Like, 655 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's Lee being a city, He's an assist leader. 656 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: Kobe has never let an assist this guy that could 657 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: be a defensive Player of the Year. Kobe was at 658 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: with twice, maybe once or twice, you know, I mean, 659 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: Lebron is just on another level being a more complete 660 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: NBA player. That said, you put Kobe one on one 661 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: with Lebron both in the prime, I'll take Kobe all day. Yeah, Okay, 662 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: that that's a different point. I like that had not 663 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: considered the one on one aspect um. Russell Westbrook, that's 664 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: the antithesis of what I would think he would like. 665 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't make anyone else on his team better. He's 666 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: all about I gotta get every rebound. I'm a jerk. 667 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: I can't get out of the first round of the 668 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: playoffs without Kevin Durant. How do you like this guy? 669 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: I need motherfucker that averages a triple devil back to 670 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: back and just brushes it off. It's like, yeah, that's 671 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: what I do. That is that like that? Not as 672 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: a not as a team player, I don't I understand 673 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: all of his flaws, but as just an athlete that 674 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: approaches a game that way. Is like, I'm gonna be 675 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: the most ruthless guy on this squad. And then also 676 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: like people say he's selfish and stuff, but it's like 677 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: he averaged a triple dope. I mean, you average tennis 678 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: is a game for two seasons in a row. I mean, 679 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: how can how is that a selfish guy? Granted, you 680 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: know there weren't great seasons for the team overall, but 681 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: at some point that's not necessarily on him, you know, 682 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I don't know. The hardened the 683 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: hardened combination failed obviously, uh, two very similar players, Um, 684 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: they obviously needed Kevin, you know, to like round them out. 685 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: All right, I'll get I'll get you out of here, 686 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: just two more real quick. What was it like in 687 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: that Saturday Night Live writing room. You were a writer, 688 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah. You know where there's a comedy club 689 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: out here near us and uh, it's called the Hermosa 690 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: Comedy Club. I don't know if you've been to it. 691 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: It's like a magic club also, but Bob Saget's been there, 692 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: We've seen David Spade, A bunch of guys have come 693 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: through and all have Saturday Night Live stories or some 694 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: kind of connection. Um, just any amazing memories from from 695 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: that time. I mean the writer's room, so I wrote 696 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: on the Weekend Update. UM, so it wasn't the sketch room. 697 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: It was the writer's room, A bit smaller, um, a 698 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: bit different in terms of the work environment because you know, 699 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: we weren't paired with casts. It was like our cast 700 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: was day Mike and and calm um, and it was 701 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: It was fun and interesting and I started hating the 702 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: news because of it, because it's all I had to 703 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: do was read news and try to find jokes in it. 704 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: Um story wise, but that's not very thankful for the experience. 705 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: And you know, everyone there was incredible. The cast is 706 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: still like the most underrated group on tv UM and 707 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: they're very highly rate. I think they're incredible. But story wise, 708 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: the one story that I can share that sticks out 709 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 1: the most to me was when my parents came forget 710 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: I forget which episode it was. It might have been 711 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: the Chadwick episode. Um, but my parents. I brought my 712 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: parents to the to the show and they were in 713 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: the in the audience and then afterwards like we're all 714 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: going exiting towards the elevator and stuff, and Keenan's there, 715 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: and uh, Keenan is like probably my when my when 716 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: I told my parents I got the Oscar's job with 717 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: Chris Rock, they were like, I was like, do you 718 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: know remember Chris Rock? They're like what? And but when 719 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: when they saw Keenan, they were like, oh, because Keenan. 720 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: I would watch Keena when I was like ten, you know, 721 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm all like he I grew up with Keenan my solf. 722 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: My parents obviously knew he was. Um. They didn't know 723 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: my name, but they knew that face for like, you know, 724 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty years. And so when my parents met Keenan, it 725 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is this is incredible, you know, 726 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: because my parents recognized him and it's probably like one 727 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: of the only people in comedy that they would like 728 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: actually recognize and he is the nicest guy on the planet, 729 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: like so welcoming and warm and immediately makes you feel 730 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: like family. He did that with my parents and it's 731 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: like my art. I can leave now that my parents 732 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: and Mett keenan um and and the only other person 733 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: I geeked out by meeting while at the show it 734 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: was Charles Barkley. Charles hosted UM. I forget him which 735 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: episode it was, but like like I did never I 736 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: didn't meet any of these A lot of the other hosts, 737 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: like I would see them, you know and say what 738 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: up whatever, um, But when Charles came to the show, 739 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: I made it to a made it a point to 740 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: tell one of the talent in terms of talent, people like, yo, 741 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: can you just make sure I get to say hi 742 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: to Charles Barkley because I fucking love that guy. He's 743 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: the funniest guy in the world. And uh, when he 744 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: came into my office, mouth was tiny and he came 745 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: in the office and just filled the room. There's a 746 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: big guy, Charles, Charles a big dude and like my 747 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: hand like just like I felt like it was a 748 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: little kid's hand in his And when I shook his hand. 749 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: I was like, thank you for every thing you've done. Uh, 750 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: shout out to the dream Team because he was so funny, 751 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: like in that documentary. He was so funny on the 752 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: Dream Team doc. But uh uh, those are two two 753 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 1: of my favorite stories I can tell, just like meeting 754 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: Charles and my parents being keen and like highlights from either. 755 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: So final question and uh, you know, don't get embarrassed 756 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: when I say this, but I did a lot of people. 757 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: I've been hyping the interview for a while. I didn't 758 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: say your name on the podcast, but friends would text 759 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: me and be like, oh, who is it was? I 760 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: mentioned your name and they're like a couple of people said, hey, 761 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: be careful, Jay, he can be controversial. Don't want you know. 762 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: And my my thought was like me, are we so 763 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: well first of all that, but second of all, like 764 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: are we so pc in that? We gotta like be 765 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: careful what we say. And you're in the job where, dude, 766 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: you gotta just you can't addhere to any of that crap. 767 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: You gotta just fire. And I said, you know what, 768 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't really care. I'm not afraid. I'm secure in 769 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: who I am and what my job is and my 770 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: boss is I'm not out here saying ship that's gonna 771 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: get me in trouble. I don't think. Um, but how 772 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: do you handle that? Like, do you know instantly when 773 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: you've crossed a line or do you know going in? 774 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: Hey man, As much as I want to touch this man, 775 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: that's just radioactive, I can't do it. Uh. I think 776 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: it's what you said, you know who you are. I 777 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: know who I am. I know what I feel and 778 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: what I think about things. And usually when I'm asked 779 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: a similar question, I I tend to quote my friend 780 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: Mike Racine's joke. My friend Mike Razine has this joke 781 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: about his grandma. His grandma bought a used car and 782 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: it had like a Nazi sticker on it, and he goes, Grandma, 783 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: aren't you concerned about that Nazi sticker? And his grandma goes, 784 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: I know who I am? And it's just like that, 785 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, you know, like, I know who I am. 786 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be concerned about what people think about 787 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: what I have to say. Um. That said, I am 788 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: conscious of of crossing lines, but I'm also like, I'm 789 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: also not one of these comics. It's constantly doing that 790 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: on purpose. If I'm crossing the line, it's because it's 791 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: because it's the funniest thing I could do, or it's 792 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: because of how I genuinely feel, in which case the 793 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: line being there is incorrect in the first place. Uh. 794 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: And that's how I approached um that. You know, like 795 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: I I appreciate shock comedy, but I'm not that guy. 796 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't go out like you know people who are like, 797 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: oh thank god this person is dead. I'm like, like, 798 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm not that guy who All right, so what do 799 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: you want to promote? Where can everybody find you? Besides Instagram, Twitter, 800 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're on Facebook stuff. I made it very easy. Um. 801 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: If you want to go watch my stand up, my 802 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: latest stand up is at Patel dot com, you'll see 803 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm wearing a gift from a friend. My friend Austin 804 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: gave me a Mamba Sports Academy uh dry fit shirt, 805 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: which is like now impossible to get it, but he 806 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: got it from me, um months ago, and I was like, 807 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: thank you for that. And so I wore that because 808 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: I opened with a Kobe joke, that whole special um 809 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: and then uh, this whole quarantine, like I said, I 810 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: was building, you know, skill sets that I didn't necessarily have. 811 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: I created a cartoon with a friend of mine named 812 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: Mookie Thompson. UM was a comedy writing savant, and we 813 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: created this cartoon after a group of friends approached us 814 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: to do something about climate change, and we create this 815 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: cartoon called Zooty. It's you could go check it out 816 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: at Zooty. It's dot com if you're a fan of 817 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: Rick and Morty or The Simpsons, um or or or 818 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: Family Guy. That's a kind of caliber of comedy. We 819 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: try to hold ourselves to UM and joke wise, I 820 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: think we definitely hit it. Like We've got tons of 821 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: jokes visual and written. And I've always one of the 822 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 1: create one of the characters. UM. It's about it's about 823 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: animals trapped in quarantine. UM. And it's kind of an 824 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: out It's like it's inspired by animal farm. UM. And 825 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely in love with it. It's just something I'm 826 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: so incredibly proud of. It's like, you know, it's like 827 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 1: how Kobe, you know, put the put the the jersey 828 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: away and picked up the oscar. You know. It's like 829 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: it just felt like I was like I wanted to 830 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: prove to everybody I can do fucking everything. And you 831 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: know I couldn't do stand ups. It's like, all right, 832 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: well I can write a cartoon from beginning to end, 833 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: voice the characters and cast it and executive produce the 834 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: whole thing. And uh, that's on Zooti, it's dot com 835 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: and it's I'm so in love with it so good. Wow. 836 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: Congrats man, and thank you. Congrats on all your success. 837 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: And hey, thanks for taking the time to come on 838 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: a sports podcast and talk about sports for like three minutes. 839 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: Hey me, Hey man, thank you for having me. Thank 840 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: you for allowing me to do that. Um, and shout 841 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 1: out to your brother. Uh if he ever wants to 842 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: swing uh jokes by me, I definitely will return the 843 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: favor in terms of linking us together. Man, you will 844 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: love that, all right, and you match, but tell enjoy 845 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: man continued success. Thank you, brother, Thank you very much. 846 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: Take care of yourself.