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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. I love them. I can't get enough of them.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that both.

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Speaker 1: The next big job there Cooktuffia Preger.

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Speaker 2: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involvedle God, here.

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Speaker 1: Are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's all.

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Speaker 3: I'm oh going to be back in your life, Back

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Speaker 3: in your Life. Monday Match six, two thousand twenty three,

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Speaker 3: Episode three ninety four, The Anak Imploring Podcast. Post pay

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Speaker 3: per view shows are just about as good as it gets.

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Speaker 3: I say, there are thirteen super Bowls a year, the

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Speaker 3: NFL Super Bowl, the twelve or thirteen UFC pay per views,

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Speaker 3: and then of course the cherry on top getting to

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Speaker 3: chop it up with my man Kenflow there after. How

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Speaker 3: you doing, Kid with all the Orlando travel? How many

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Speaker 3: weeks into the PF All Challenger.

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Speaker 1: Series are we?

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Speaker 2: Anyway?

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Speaker 1: We's six weeks in, Kid, We got another two weeks.

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Speaker 1: But I would say this, you know you're referencing doing

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Speaker 1: the pay per views as super Bowls. You're doing essentially

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Speaker 1: two super Bowls back to back each show, so you

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Speaker 1: got to double. I'm gonna burn out. I'm gonna burn

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Speaker 1: out and then I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna I don't know if I'm qualified to be a

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Speaker 3: physical education teacher. I don't know my master's but maybe

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Speaker 3: a mailman, bus driver or a physical education teacher. Within

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Speaker 3: the next ten years, I can almost guarantee it.

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Speaker 1: You'll take over the world.

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Speaker 3: So battle bought stuff all over Las Vegas. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if I was to believe every advertisement, there are live

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Speaker 3: robot fights every night out there.

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Speaker 1: Well, actually they're doing that. They have this live show.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because people are like, how are you doing

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Speaker 1: battle Bots? We already filmed this season, so I can't

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Speaker 1: take credit for that, but they're doing a live show

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Speaker 1: now all the time. You could watch a lot of

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Speaker 1: your favorite robots battle it out as a show in

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Speaker 1: Vegas now all the time. So it's been it's been great.

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Speaker 1: It's been great. A lot of people love love watch,

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Speaker 1: so it's cool, cool to be there, all right.

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Speaker 3: So I am very excited to talk about this Monster

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Speaker 3: pay per view. It was a crazy weekend in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 3: and you may have heard me reference on broadcast that

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Speaker 3: there was a festive feel and might be something I

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Speaker 3: trot out there with a little promotional hyperbolee for your

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Speaker 3: average Vegas pay per view, But Kenny, there was a

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Speaker 3: McGregor like feel in the air, and John Jones had

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Speaker 3: never been.

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Speaker 1: This popular in Las Vegas before.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if this will be reflected in

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Speaker 3: the pay per view number. It was certainly reflected in

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Speaker 3: the live gate, but this felt massive, and it very

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Speaker 3: much felt like the King, the greatest of all time,

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Speaker 3: was back. Even before we got to Saturday night, I

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Speaker 3: felt that I wasn't even in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I was nowhere close to Vegas, and I felt that

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Speaker 1: build up. I felt it even in the prelimbs that

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Speaker 1: that has to do or had to do obviously with

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Speaker 1: the return of John Jones, it being a new challenge

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Speaker 1: for him coming in to claim yet another belt, and

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Speaker 1: just the card was stacked top to bottom. This is

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Speaker 1: These are the kind of cards that people get up for, man,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I assume it did big numbers, but

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Speaker 1: nowhere close to Vegas, all right.

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Speaker 3: So it feels like I have so much to talk

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Speaker 3: to you about in terms of what happened before the fight, right,

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Speaker 3: It's not every week where you and I are texting

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Speaker 3: these text messages, right, because whether it was UFC embedded

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Speaker 3: John Jones just undressed Settle Gone at the press conference

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Speaker 3: and outlined his weaknesses to the world two days.

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Speaker 1: Before their fight.

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Speaker 3: Any thoughts on that part of the preamble to the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was hearing it leading up to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think there's definitely a wisdom that was

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Speaker 3: not there before. And in terms of the fight genius.

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Speaker 3: See that's a big part of all of this, because

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Speaker 3: there's no denying the god given ability, right, the natural

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Speaker 3: has huge hands, which you cannot say about every single heavyweight.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of the fight genius right. And I

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Speaker 3: don't say this even tongue in cheek, like working smarter,

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Speaker 3: not harder. I can guarantee you that he'll work harder

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Speaker 3: for the steep A fight than he did for this one.

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Speaker 3: Now that is not to say that he wasn't being

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this was the first time we saw heavyweight John Jones,

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Speaker 3: but he professed before the fight and after that he

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Speaker 3: I think he understood what kind of sape he had

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Speaker 3: to be in to beat this type of challenge. No,

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Speaker 3: Jones before we get to the actual fight. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you saw our post show, probably not, you

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Speaker 3: got better things to do. But I did ask John

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Speaker 3: be an excruciating pain if something would happen to this toe.

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Speaker 3: The toe is structurally fine, right, but he he wants

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Speaker 1: And something happens.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, they're cutting tape off of your foot,

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Speaker 3: and I just think it speaks bigger picture. And then

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Speaker 3: seven seconds into the fight he absorbs the groin shot. Right,

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Speaker 3: every little thing on the post show he stead of

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Speaker 3: want that strike to go unnotice, right, always thinking, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, absolutely again he knows what the hell he's doing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: absolutely a tremendous amount of wisdom. I also think, you know,

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Speaker 1: bit more. But yeah, he's thinking of everything. John, Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what coaches you have, none of that matters.

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Speaker 1: You can't outdo that amount of experience that John Jones

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Speaker 1: He's been experiencing this since he was in his early twenties. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do you contend with that? And now these guys

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Speaker 1: the skill, the experience, the intelligence, the mentorship. John Jones

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Speaker 3: Man, So Steve a Minchich right now is two hundred

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Speaker 3: being smaller and leaner for the Daniel Cormier fight. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting, And I do wonder where

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Speaker 3: I do think it'll be a little bit lower. He

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Speaker 3: again we didn't get to see him in five round shait,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, ken flow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, I think people look into that way too much.

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Speaker 1: You know. If that was the case, Tyson Fury would

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Speaker 1: inco didn't look like that. Kave Velasquez wasn't this jacked heavyweight.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think, yeah, he looked lean at two

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Speaker 3: All right, well, this is my informed speculation. Then he's

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Speaker 3: put in a great training camp before. Now that's not

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Speaker 3: has come the other way. But he said of the

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Speaker 3: steep A fight, There's never been a fight that means

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Speaker 3: more to me than beating step A Miacich. I've never

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Speaker 3: strives to be made a Kenny if I'm totally being honest,

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Speaker 3: and maybe I'm making too much of it, right, but

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Speaker 3: I do make too much of the Instagram stuff right,

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Speaker 3: because the if he was, you know, doing like major

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's way more difficult to add muscle

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Speaker 1: And I also think it's not a bodybuilding contest. You know,

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Speaker 3: the Francis Nganu fight, and I have publicly questioned his

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Speaker 1: It takes years. It takes years to get your wrestling

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Speaker 1: And I think that that was, you know, an unfortunate

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not saying he's at Boston University with

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Speaker 3: who is your winner by guillotine choke at two o

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing about John really kind fall in love

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's all fair, and I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: lot of miles on him. And that's one thing that

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little bit worried about. You know,

433
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Speaker 1: we saw guys like Cormier knock him out and other

434
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Speaker 1: guys really take him out, and I think John Jones

435
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Speaker 1: has the ability to knock out step A. I think

436
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Speaker 1: it would largely kind of be a fight on the feet.

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Speaker 1: I think if someone looks for a takedown, it might

438
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Speaker 1: be John Jones that initiates that because he would have

439
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Speaker 1: an advantage if he puts steepee on his back. But man,

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Speaker 1: that's a great fight, two legends going at it. Man,

441
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Speaker 1: that's the fight I had imagined that would do very

442
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Speaker 1: big numbers as well.

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Speaker 3: Cody, don't put this in the chat, Kenny. Do you

444
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Speaker 3: know how old Stepe is? I imagine he's younger than

445
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Speaker 3: I think thirty nine. He's forty years of age. I

446
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Speaker 3: believe he'll be forty one in August. Hasn't fought since

447
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Speaker 3: March of twenty twenty one. Last win August twenty twenty.

448
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Speaker 1: Wow.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the spreads a little Wide on DraftKings

450
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Speaker 3: Sports Sportsbook.

451
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Speaker 1: Right now, if I'm being honest.

452
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Speaker 3: My twin brother hates when I say if I'm being honest,

453
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Speaker 3: It's like, what other way a you're going to be?

454
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Speaker 1: You're nothing if not honest. He's stupid.

455
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Speaker 3: Fuck By the way, this week, did we not Oh

456
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Speaker 3: here's the thesis of it on that comments As far

457
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Speaker 3: as that is concerned, Yeah, I parent my children and

458
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Speaker 3: I do swear, and I do think it's up to

459
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Speaker 3: parents to sort of navigate that on their own. I'm

460
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Speaker 3: pro screened for children, and I'm pro swearing. How's that

461
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Speaker 3: sit with them? Minus three twenty five for John Jones

462
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Speaker 3: on DraftKings Sports Book.

463
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Speaker 1: See the kids like me again? Now? Right on pro

464
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Speaker 1: screen I think you guys can have screen time. It's okay.

465
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Speaker 1: You should see my son. He's a fucking genius on

466
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Speaker 1: that thing. He's four Steve.

467
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Speaker 3: Bay minches plus two seventy. How did Kenny and Clark

468
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Speaker 3: feel about iPads and children? Does your daughter true have

469
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Speaker 3: an iPad?

470
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Speaker 2: Yet?

471
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Speaker 1: I'll buy her one? She does not? She does not?

472
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: We uh, you know, we really were kind of iPad

473
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Speaker 1: talk about MMA instead of we were kind of iPad

474
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Speaker 1: Nazis for a little while, man, see all this shit, man, Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: she just she watches YouTube every once in a while.

476
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Speaker 1: She could watch her Peppa Pig, she could watch some

477
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Speaker 1: of the other shows, but we Clark Clark limits her

478
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Speaker 1: for sure.

479
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Speaker 3: It's really going to be interesting to see if all

480
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Speaker 3: of these screenless children excel more than.

481
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Speaker 1: These kids who have these devices.

482
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Speaker 3: Because you know, my daughter is eleven and she's not

483
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Speaker 3: allowed to go on social media, but she she's a

484
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Speaker 3: little content creator. So she's trying to find any website

485
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Speaker 3: she can pinterest, any apps she can to eight content, gotcha.

486
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Speaker 3: And so to take the device out of the kid's hands,

487
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Speaker 3: I think, in some respects is setting them back. Right now,

488
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Speaker 3: you can also argue by me not allowing my daughter

489
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Speaker 3: on TikTok, right, it's limiting some of what she can

490
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Speaker 3: do in terms of content creation, because that particular application

491
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: is very good for content creation, or so I've been told, right.

492
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Speaker 1: A lot of other trash on there.

493
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Speaker 3: I don't necessarily want her to be diving into all day,

494
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: you know, but I do think it's an interesting conversation.

495
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Speaker 3: So I'm rooting for the kids who have screens.

496
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Speaker 1: This is basically what I'm saying she'll have plenty of

497
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Speaker 1: time to go on screens, but yeah, she's just starting

498
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Speaker 1: that venture now.

499
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Speaker 3: It's a polarizing argument, it really really is. I know

500
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Speaker 3: a lot of parents, even within the house that are

501
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Speaker 3: split on that. So all right, back to the mixed

502
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Speaker 3: martial arts. I don't even know exactly what we were

503
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Speaker 3: talking about, but oh yeah, the line being a little

504
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: bit wide. Kenny minus three twenty five for John Jones

505
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Speaker 3: and step A Miachich plus two seventy. That's a big

506
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Speaker 3: number next to step A. I know it's been a while, right,

507
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Speaker 3: would you agree with me that that number seems big

508
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Speaker 3: or no?

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Speaker 1: No, totally. And I think a lot of that has

510
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: to do with recency bias, right. You see John Jones

511
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: just completely dismantle Cyril Gone in around three minutes, and

512
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: you know the bookies are like, well, he's got to

513
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Speaker 1: destroy anyone in his path. Give him a big number.

514
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that has a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 3: All right, real quickly, because I don't necessarily want to

517
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Speaker 3: have this conversation today, because I think you and I

518
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: were aligned going in that largely based upon his strength

519
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: of schedule, and if you go to John Jones's Wikipedia page.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're a younger fan.

521
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: Go to fight pass right, just every single one of

522
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: his title defenses essentially came against a bona fide, legendary

523
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame type fighter. Right, most championship wins, best

524
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Speaker 3: strength of schedule, I think for both of us, even

525
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: though George Saint Pierre, your dear friend, former teammate, I

526
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 3: think we both went into this fight thinking John Jones

527
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Speaker 3: was the greatest of all time, and obviously this win

528
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Speaker 3: for me closes the conversation. It makes me feel like

529
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Speaker 3: I don't have to have the conversation anything for us

530
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Speaker 3: on the goat stuff before we move along.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, I think I think it's it's certainly close. Here's

532
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: the thing that I think allows George Saint Pierre to

533
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Speaker 1: stand out a little bit more above others is that

534
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: there's never been any controversy around any tests when it

535
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: comes to his name. That that's the only thing right.

536
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: Being that clean dude who's never had anything associated with

537
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Speaker 1: his name in that regard for me, gives in that

538
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Speaker 1: edge over you know, guys like John Jones Anderson Silva,

539
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: all those guys who are in their prime. So, but

540
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Speaker 1: I mean John Jones the way he's performed and the

541
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Speaker 1: way he has dismantled guys in title fights has been

542
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Speaker 1: more impressive than George Saint Pierre and a lot of

543
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Speaker 1: his fights. Right, So it's close. It's close, but both

544
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Speaker 1: are But if you said either or you wouldn't be wrong.

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Speaker 3: Well on based on my research, and perhaps there is

546
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Speaker 3: some ignorance with me. I don't put John Jones and

547
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Speaker 3: Anderson Silva in the same category Cory as far as

548
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Speaker 3: the the discretions, but I could be.

549
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Speaker 1: Doing that, I think.

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00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: All right, So, Alexa Grosso, we did that Antaki Florian

551
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: podcast poll question and a lot of it had to

552
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Speaker 3: do with timing, but only four percent of respondents would

553
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: have sent Alexa Grosso in there as the woman to

554
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: beat Valentina Chevchenko. Now there are a number of different

555
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: different angles on the Vchenko side, but all hail Alexa

556
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: and Francisco Grosso. Kenny, you and I called a lot

557
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: of Alexa Grosso's early fights. Her uncle Francisco has been

558
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: with her every step of the way. A third championship

559
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: for Mexico in as many months. Where would you like

560
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: to begin on the newly minted UFC Women's Flyway champion

561
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Speaker 3: Alexa Grosso.

562
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Speaker 1: Is there anything more special or more cool than having

563
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Speaker 1: a dad and their daughter or son and having.

564
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Speaker 3: Them bring Yeah, so was it our Her dad's a

565
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: part of it, and he had her shadow boxing at

566
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: a young edge. But her chief corner has always.

567
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Speaker 1: Whatever it is, you know, whether you know it's the

568
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: Roger Mayweather you know type thing, you know, where here's

569
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Speaker 1: an uncle or but having that kind of relationship that

570
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: is so cool, man, that that is awesome to see

571
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: and to see them realize that goal on Saturday night

572
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: in spectacular fashion. Uh was something else again. You know,

573
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Speaker 1: we we were talking about it and you said, you know,

574
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Speaker 1: do you see Grasso having any chance there against Vaalatina Chevchenko?

575
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Speaker 1: I thought she did. And the closer we got to

576
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Speaker 1: that fight, I don't know what it was. I had,

577
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Speaker 1: Ah had kind of a feeling, It's like this fight's

578
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Speaker 1: a little is much closer than I had anticipated. But

579
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Speaker 1: I did not see this coming, man. I did not

580
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Speaker 1: see this kind of finish. I thought it would have

581
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Speaker 1: been a close fight, a much closer fight, uh with

582
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Speaker 1: with chevcheck go winning. But I did not see Grassow

583
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: pulling off this kind of upset in this manner. I

584
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: was just really impressed.

585
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Speaker 3: Man, I'm looking up the altitude in Guadalajara, Hallisco, Mexico,

586
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: compared to Mexico City, and it's.

587
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Speaker 1: Not even close. It is above sea level.

588
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: Right.

589
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: But she was in the shape of her life. You

590
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: heard us say on the broadcast, the buzzword was extreme

591
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: with her training, her discipline, her diet, her conditioning, brow

592
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Speaker 3: beginning of the fourth round. She was like, I was

593
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Speaker 3: more fatigued at the beginning of the fourth round at

594
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 3: that stage of the broadcast by a significant margin than

595
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Speaker 3: she was. Man, I've never seen anything like it. I mean,

596
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: maybe I have. That sounds just like a huge exaggeration.

597
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: She was in the shape of her life, and I

598
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: think she was buoyed by that. How about the strategy though, right,

599
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: how about using the spinning stuff and against Valentina Shevchenko

600
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Speaker 3: and just the everything we might say about Selegan not

601
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: being a will and grappler and making use of that time,

602
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: Alexa Grosso did the opposite. Man, I'm just I'm so

603
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: happy for this athlete, because you know, it's one thing

604
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: for her to say to us in a fighter meeting

605
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: that she has worked very hard on that stuff. You know,

606
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: it's fighter meeting in and fighter meeting out every time.

607
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm working so hard on this stuff. Finally gets a

608
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Speaker 3: submission against Joanne Wood and she's overjoyed. Well, now you

609
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: fucking submitted, Valentina Chipchenk.

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Speaker 1: She wasn't winning that fight, But what was most impressive

611
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Speaker 1: about Grasso was her unrelenting desire to win. She didn't

612
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Speaker 1: give up. She kept pressing forward, and that's why she

613
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Speaker 1: was able to capitalize so quickly. That's what a champion does.

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Speaker 1: And I would have been impressed with her performance whether

615
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Speaker 1: she won or whether she lost, because of what she

616
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Speaker 1: was doing. And of course she was able to do that, John,

617
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Speaker 1: because of the phenomenal shape that she had heading into

618
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: that fight. Her preparation seemed like it was awesome. But

619
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Speaker 1: really the story of the fight here, John, is there

620
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: was two major mistakes that Valentina Chevchenko made. She mistimed

621
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Speaker 1: her back kick so she exposed her back, which allowed

622
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Speaker 1: Grasso to take her back. And then her actual defense

623
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: against the rear naked choke. You know, I don't know

624
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: how many mixed martial arts fighters watch this show, But

625
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: don't do this, okay, don't push up on the elbow, guys,

626
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: you have zero leverage there. It's not going to work.

627
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: You need to grab at the end of the hand

628
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: or you need to position your shoulder in the proper way.

629
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Speaker 1: That is not the way to defend a choke. You

630
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: could see she faced forward, it went right across the jaw,

631
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: and again, you do not need to get it underneath

632
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: the neck to get a finish. You could break the jaw,

633
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: you could drive the teeth into the lips. You can

634
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: crank the neck. You can also crank the spine with

635
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: the body trigle. It's never a good thing when someone's

636
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: on your back. Dude. Grosso was just a savage there,

637
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: and again because she was in such phenomenal shape, she

638
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: got that thing and she was not going to let go.

639
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you can just see it. That was just

640
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: also a beautiful breakdown at the end with the camera

641
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: stuff of showing that white mark across the jaw. Dude,

642
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen that in a very long time.

643
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: I think because Chefchenko has such white skin, that was

644
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: just so much more apparent. But my goodness, that was savage.

645
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: And kudos to Joe Rogan for demanding that the truck

646
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Speaker 3: get him that visual that now has been repurposed all

647
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Speaker 3: over the world.

648
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: Joe is all over it, Joe is on fire pay

649
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: per view open. He was jumping out of his skin.

650
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: That was hilarious. He's like, hey, what do you do?

651
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: You're not showing the best part. You get your shit together? Yeah,

652
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: it was great you put this.

653
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: No matter of factly, you can drive the teeth through

654
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: the lips and cause major, major damage that will need

655
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars of plastic surgery. These athletes will never

656
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: be the same the gentle art Brazilian jiu jitsu. All right,

657
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: So Alexa Grosso Kenny eventually wants to open a rehab

658
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: clinic for mixed martial arts fighters, and this certainly is

659
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: something that's going to probably help her do that. But

660
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: in terms of the mixed martial arts evolution, right, she

661
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: faced Tatana Suarez in twenty eighteen. Last loss came against

662
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: Carla Esparza in two thousand and nine. Team right, And

663
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: so when you think about going in there against those

664
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: two athletes, there's two ways to go, right. You can

665
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: hope you get striking matchups, or you can chase a

666
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: world title and shore up your weaknesses. And you're right

667
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: that she wasn't winning this fight, but she's certainly mentally, physically,

668
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: emotionally put herself in position to win it. She was

669
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: competitive from the outset. She looked nothing like a plus

670
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: six hundred underdog. I actually think maybe she won the

671
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: first round. So for Valentina Shipchenko, one thing that people

672
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: have talked about of the aftermath is the championship miles

673
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: championship training camp upon championship training camp, experience can come

674
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: with a price, even if it's the most valuable thing

675
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: in mixed martial arts. She's always bouncing around looking for

676
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: new training and I'm not saying that that necessarily is

677
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: Caughton up with her, But I don't know if the

678
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: words no matter what it is, but she's almost never home, seemingly.

679
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Valentina Schevchenko, who seems to

680
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: not want to go away from this, She wants to

681
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: meet the immediate rematch and you know, wants to write

682
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: this wrong.

683
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be some changes, right. I

684
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: don't think there's a major changes, However, I think she's

685
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 1: still a phenomenal fighter. I think sometimes she gets caught

686
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: up doing a technique because she thinks that's the time

687
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: to do it. There's a lack of understanding on her part.

688
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: When I'm watching her strike, and she's still a phenomenal striker,

689
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: But when I watch her make some decisions out there,

690
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: she's throwing a technique sometimes without any rhyme or reason.

691
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: There is a There was not a reason there to

692
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: throw that spinning backkick. She wasn't setting it up. She

693
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: just decided to maybe I should throw a spinning backkick.

694
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: Let me just throw it. And I see it when

695
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: she's throwing a lot of these spinning techniques like what

696
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: they're spinning backfist and things, she just kind of whips

697
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: it around because she wants to throw it, not because

698
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: that's the technique to throw. Does that make sense? So

699
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: I think that there needs to be a little bit

700
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: better understanding on her part when it comes to the striking.

701
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: I think her jab is phenomenal. She knows when to

702
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: throw it. It was working wonders for her. It was

703
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: keeping Grasso on the outside. Yes, she was getting caught

704
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: with a beautiful one two that right hand from Grasso

705
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: was still firing down the middle. But I think there's

706
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: other techniques that could have served her a little bit better.

707
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: So I think her shot selection when it came to striking,

708
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: was a bit off, and clearly she needs to do

709
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: something about her grappling defense that needs to be sharper.

710
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: I think she's fine when she gets on top, but

711
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: on her back or when people get her in some

712
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: compromising positions, you could tell she hasn't spent a whole

713
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: lot of time with high level jiu jitsu practitioners showing

714
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: her what she needs to do well.

715
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: I will see if they do an immediate rematch all

716
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: of a sudden, this division is wide open and their

717
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 3: myriad opportunities at flyweight. I do think Valentina is richly

718
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: deserving of an immediate rematch, and I would really be

719
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 3: surprised were she not to be afforded that opportunity. Aaron

720
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: Blanchfield is twenty three years of age, but she is

721
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: very much lurking. You also have Tyla Santos and Monol Fure,

722
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: and Santos obviously doesn't have the winning streak that Monol

723
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: Fuor does. She doesn't have the winning streak that Aaron

724
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: Blanchfield does. She does have the competitive fight against Valentina Chipchenko,

725
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: but this result obviously was not ideal for Tyler Santo's

726
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: so any thoughts on what they might do at Flywaight,

727
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: And I would also add to that that there was

728
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: a major investment by the UFC in Mexico and Sean

729
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: Shelby deserves a lot of credit Lorenzo for Tea to

730
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: the brass.

731
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: But now you have a Mexican champion, And.

732
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: You know, I do think that if you're a promoter

733
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: or you're a matchmaker, right, I mean, maybe you approach

734
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: this and you try to selectively figure out, you know,

735
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: is Blanchfield the toughest fight for Grosso?

736
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: Is the rematch the toughest fight.

737
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I wouldn't be surprised to see,

738
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: you know, Manol Fure and Alexa Grosso fighting for the

739
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: title in three months if Valentina is not right, I

740
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: don't know, right, but I don't know that it's going

741
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 3: to be Grosso and bl lanch Field. But I think

742
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: that a lot of the fan base of Valentine is

743
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: not ready is going to want to see that fight. Well,

744
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: this is what you kind of call for all the time,

745
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: which is I'm on board with what you say here

746
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: for fighters, right, It's like you have this opportunity to

747
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: get a rematch or to get this championship fight, and

748
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: if you delay it, you may never see it again.

749
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: You know. It's one of these things where it's like,

750
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: hey man, there's a lot of people that want your spot.

751
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: They're going to step in, So choose wisely. I'm not

752
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: saying it's something you do every single time, but you

753
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: have to choose wisely. You may not get that shot again.

754
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it's a tough one. I think that

755
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Valentina absolutely deserves the rematch. I think you're right on that.

756
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: The timing of this, though, is going to be interesting,

757
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: especially if the UFC decides they want to go to Mexico,

758
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, and have a quick turnaround. On that note,

759
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine, first of all, Brandon Moreno, Yeah, you're

760
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: Rodriguez Alexa Grosso fight. You can fill a stadium, you

761
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: can fill a soccer stadium in Mexico with those teams

762
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: in two of them, two and two of them, you know,

763
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: be insane. But anyways, so what direction are they going

764
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: to go? I don't know. I mean, I guess it

765
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: all depends on the timing. If it's a quicker turnaround,

766
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: you might see Aaron Blanchefield in there against Grasso. You

767
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: might see him fure in there. You know, I don't

768
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: know Tyler Santos is she's still in the conversation. I'm

769
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: not sure either. So yeah, I'm curious to see what

770
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: the direction of the UFC is. I think that there's

771
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: a lot of talent out one hundred and twenty five pounds. Man,

772
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm even seeing it over the PFL. That seems to

773
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: be a kind of the one hundred and fifty five

774
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: pound division of the equivalent of the men's division, right, crazy,

775
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot of talent there.

776
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: Dude used to be the redheaded stepchild of mixed martial arts,

777
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: that women's flyweight division. Now all of a sudden, it's

778
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: all the rage. And don't forget Tatiana Suarez, And we

779
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: mentioned her head to head win over Lexa Grosso. Well,

780
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: the reason why I don't mention her is because she

781
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: has sort of said kind of on equivocally that she

782
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: wants to go make a strawweight championship run. But now

783
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, right, I mean, you could do

784
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 3: Suarez Grosso too for the title. People wouldn't bat and

785
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: I there a lot of different directions in which they

786
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: could go. I do believe though it will be Chevchenko

787
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: Grosso two in August or September, perhaps even with a

788
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: Mexico City backdrop.

789
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be something? All right?

790
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: What do you have for us on the feature about

791
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: between Shavcott rock Monov and Jeff Neil the fight of

792
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 3: the night? Rear naked choke win for Shavcot there late

793
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: in the fight can flow?

794
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: Shavcott rock Monov is as tough as they come. Man.

795
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: What we found out about that is that he has

796
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: unbelievable durability, unbelievable chin and toughness. I don't think we

797
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to see that because he has been

798
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: so dominant in his fights. However, if I have stock

799
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: in Shavcott rock Monoff, I'm selling right now. I'm gonna

800
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: wait why Because I thought he was staying in the

801
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: pocket for way too long with that chin up. Watching

802
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: his work, Jeff Neil was very close to knocking him out.

803
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: He certainly hurt him more than a few times in

804
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: that fight, and rock Monoff seemed to get in like

805
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: some kind of like toughness battle with him. He was

806
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: largely ineffective with his wrestling, not largely he was just

807
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: playing ineffective with his wrestling, didn't complete any takedowns. Is

808
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: he good? Yeah, he's still very good. But as far

809
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: as like, how do I see him beating the top

810
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: three or five in the wealthy division? I don't think

811
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: it happens right now. There's a lot he can learn

812
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: from and improve on. But based on what I saw

813
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: against Jeff neil who also is a phenomenal fighter as well,

814
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: but he was offering up opportunities for Jeff Neil to

815
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: knock him out and I didn't like it.

816
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: I really wonder what's going to happen in terms of

817
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: a backup situation in London, England? Right Who's going to

818
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: be the backup for Kamara Ousman and Leon Edwards?

819
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: Gotta have a backup? Maybe not? You don't have a

820
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: second title fight there?

821
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: Do you?

822
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: Very interesting the welterweight division largely? I agree with a

823
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: lot of your assessment. Is there any upside for Shavcott

824
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: rockmanop to have experienced some of this in a fight

825
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: before getting to his next main event or championship setting?

826
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: I would say yes, yes, but not like that, you know,

827
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: get to hit Walter twice, you know, but it's Jeff

828
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: neil Man. He could crack and again, you don't want

829
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: to take too many of those shots. These are shots

830
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: that again could take years off your life, that could

831
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: slow you down over time. And also the more you

832
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: get hit, the more your brain gets rocked, the easier

833
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: it is for you get for you to get knocked

834
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: out right. That common cliche, that common analogy of the

835
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: energy bar in the corner of the video game, except

836
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: it never gets back to full power. It rarely does anyway,

837
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: and I think that it has been diminished after that

838
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: battle against Jeff Neil, which is a phenomenal fight. Jeff

839
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: should be applauded for that performance as well. I thought

840
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: he looked really good.

841
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: And he was.

842
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: He was fighting a guy who was sixteen and zero

843
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: with as many finishes. He went toe to toad with

844
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: him for much of the fight, and despite missing weight

845
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 3: by four pounds, he was given his fifty thousand dollars

846
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: Fight of the night bonus, which is absolutely not the norm.

847
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: I feel like in ninety percent of these cases, the

848
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: athlete who makes weight gets all one hundred K. So

849
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure there will be some sort of acknowledgment of

850
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: that in Rockmannov's bank account. But nice to see Jeff

851
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: Neil get the bonus despite the weight miss, because he

852
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: did insinuate that there was some sort of injury, and

853
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: he said, if y'all knew what I've been through just

854
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 3: to get to fight night Right, this fight was delayed

855
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: from January, So Jeff Neil's been through some stuff, man,

856
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: with his system being sceptic leading to congestive heart failure

857
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: and everything else.

858
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: I do think.

859
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: A healthy Jeff Neil, what's the ceiling keemfa on a

860
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: healthy Jeff Neil.

861
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: I think this guy's the limit. First of all, Physically,

862
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: he looked different, like he just looked way more vibrant.

863
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: He looked healthier to me. And I got a chance

864
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: to watch some of his training foot due This dude

865
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 1: can crack, man, he can crack. I think he's gonna

866
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: learn a lot from this fight. I thought this was

867
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: within reach of him winning. You know, everyone was super high,

868
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: including myself on Shoffcott Rockmanoff. Jeff Neil could have won

869
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: that fight. There's no question in my mind. A couple

870
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: things going, you know, another way, I thought he had

871
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: a chance. I thought the kicks were really hurting him.

872
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was seeing the kicks as

873
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: well as he would have liked. And again big credit

874
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: to Rockmanoff, but Jeff Neil has a lot more to

875
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: improve on man This is not, in my opinion, his best.

876
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: I don't see him right now as prime. I think

877
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: there's so much more we can see out of this guy.

878
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: And if I was his coach, safe sayoud, I'd be

879
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: very excited.

880
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: All right, big find a lightweight Mattau's Gamrock and Jalen Turner.

881
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: It goes to Poland's Gamrock by split decision, and of

882
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: course he deserves all the cred in the world for

883
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: stepping up to this particular physical check challenge on like

884
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: two weeks. Notice, right, yeah, I mean ken Fall. I

885
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: don't know how many six foot three inch lightweights you

886
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: fought in your day, but you can be sure that

887
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: most of the elite lightweight it's ranked above. There's not

888
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: a one ranked above Jalen Turner with respect to you,

889
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: other eight that would have taken this fight right, and

890
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: Mattaw's Gamro took it. He said the weight cut was

891
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 3: going to be really hard, but he wants to stay active.

892
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 3: He wanted to distance himself from that Benil dar Use loss,

893
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: and certainly accomplished that.

894
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: Over the Weekend. Yeah, listen, it wasn't pretty, but he

895
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: got it done, and that's what it is sometimes in

896
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: a fight. Man, these aren't easy. Mixed martial arts is

897
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: extremely difficult, you know. Here, I am, you know, talking

898
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: about some of the deficiencies of some of these elite

899
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: champions here. There's so much to learn, man, there is

900
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: so much you need to do out there. So I'm

901
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 1: trying to be very matter of fact about it without bias.

902
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: But for Gamra to lose that weight, get in there

903
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: and face an absolute beast like Jalen Turner, I think

904
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: is commendable. And he did exactly what he needed to do.

905
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: He didn't look obviously as sharp as he normally does.

906
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, going where's his sharp wrestling that

907
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: we typically see. His entries were really scaring me. It

908
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: looked like Jalen Turner was going to wrap his shit

909
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: around his neck or head at certain points. But he

910
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: hung in there.

911
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: Man.

912
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: He showed that toughness. He showed his ability to execute

913
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: when he needed to, got the control then he needed

914
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: to when he needed to. But I think Jalen Turner

915
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: Turner also is going to learn a lot from this fight,

916
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: and I think inexperience got Jalen Turner more than anything else.

917
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: But I think he's going to be a phenomenal one

918
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five pounder. Just needs to add in

919
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: a little bit in regards to grappling and timing and

920
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: decision making. But I thought it was a great fight

921
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: because Jalen Turner was doing some great things on the feet.

922
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. Jalen Turner was born in nineteen ninety five.

923
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 3: He'll be absolutely fine. I do want to see him

924
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: get a little bit meaner overall meaner in our fighter,

925
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 3: meeting meaner in the fight, just a little bit meaner.

926
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: I say that with all love for Jalen Turner, one

927
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 3: of my favorite guys on the roster. I love Gamrock too,

928
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: and I just give him so much respect for wanting

929
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: to be that guy at lightweight that's ranked, that's going

930
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: to be there for the promotion to step up. In

931
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: all of these situations, there was a huge priority to

932
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: preserve that fight when Dan Hooker was ruled out, and

933
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: to preserve it with a ranked opponent on a big

934
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: pay per view. You know, fans were really excited for

935
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 3: that fight. I did think Gamro won the fight for

936
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: the record, did you think Mataws Gamot did enough to

937
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: win the fight?

938
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: I did as well. I thought it was. I thought

939
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: it was a narrow decision, but I thought he won absolutely.

940
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: All Right, So bon Nickel, Brian Petrey's going to join

941
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: us shortly, and I'm going to trot this out there again. Okay,

942
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: So in our main event challenge, you guys can put

943
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 3: five units on a guy if you so choose.

944
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: I know that bon Nickel was.

945
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: One of the biggest favorites in UFC history, right, but

946
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 3: when we did our show, he was like minus fourteen

947
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: hundred was his minus two thousand? You know there was

948
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: with respect to Jamie Pickett. I mean, there was no

949
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: way Bonicko was winning that fight. I think it was

950
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: a missed opportunity by you. But we're gonna have to

951
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: table that for now because now joining us, I know,

952
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: and you like how I just trot that out there

953
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: and go.

954
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: Don't give you a chance to respond.

955
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: Oh man, guys, look great, John, another outstanding night at

956
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: the desk for you. Congratulations.

957
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: You just said that in a probing way. Are you

958
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: asking if it was an outstanding night? Are you complimenting me?

959
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: Compliment you can I compliment your haircut.

960
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: How's it look?

961
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: Honestly? Does your barber listen to the show?

962
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: I think so?

963
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well then it looks great.

964
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: Oh shit, wow, okay, we're coming out, uh with our

965
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: swords out? Huh toochet.

966
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: Kenny, Kenny Kenny, how do you think his hair looks well?

967
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: He just needs to he needed COVID a little bit

968
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: more on the side. It's sticking out on one side.

969
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: You just gotta do that slick it back. Yeah, yeah,

970
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: yeah right there. Yeah, And I don't I want to

971
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: see all of it. We're missing the top of your

972
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: head here. You gotta fix your screen so we can

973
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: see all of the long goness. Here we go.

974
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: You know, I know you guys have a makeup artist. Unfortunately,

975
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm just a schlub that sits here and wakes up

976
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 2: and just does this with my hair and them out.

977
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: They're not doing a good job on my greasy headed nose.

978
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that.

979
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 3: You look a lot then you than you did last week.

980
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I don't know if the listeners

981
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: and the viewers want to h and the YouTube comment,

982
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: you know, scale of one to ten, how does Ray

983
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 3: long Go's hair look? It's about a five for me, man,

984
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: But you know it's so good. Hey, can we get

985
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: your little headroom?

986
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 4: Ray?

987
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. The aesthetic is an idea,

988
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: a little headroom? Can we do that? Is that too

989
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: much to ask? There?

990
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: We go?

991
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we see it all.

992
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: You know, all this time. We got to figure it out.

993
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: We do.

994
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: I actually asked my man to get ahead of it.

995
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: He said he tried behind the scenes. Enough about that

996
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: before I upset the entire listenership that loves you so much.

997
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, how was your weekend? How was UFC two

998
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: eighty five for you?

999
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: Oh? Everything was good. First, I had two guys fighting.

1000
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: Shout out to Armando Gatja Ring of combat, third round knockout,

1001
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 2: came back from almost being finished in the first round.

1002
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: Just showed hot and determination. Kid I expect to see

1003
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: on the Contended series. He's got four straight knockouts they

1004
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: think now in a row. And then we had James

1005
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 2: Gonzalez in the Oh you saw James right, you called

1006
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: that fight in Uh he had a first round knock

1007
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: Gonzales Yeah, yeah, he is. So he didn't get the contract,

1008
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: but I hope they do something for him because he's

1009
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: a great kid. Is jiu jitsu, Kenny, you would love

1010
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: great mma jiu jitsu, even if you get to roll

1011
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: with him or play chance.

1012
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: Got a chance to watch a lot of his past fights,

1013
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: and it got a chance, of course to see what

1014
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: he did out there. He is scrappy man, he goes

1015
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: for it. I love that style, dude, and a really

1016
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: nice kid, very humble, very nice.

1017
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: Thank you well.

1018
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: Ke Zal in the PFL, I tho to my class.

1019
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you kid, Yeah to.

1020
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: Eighty five was great. It was very interesting.

1021
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: We were just talking about bon Nickel and this really

1022
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: was one of the more anticipated UFC debuts that I

1023
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: can remember, certainly in my time with the company. And uh,

1024
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: he made quick work of Jamie Pickett. You know that

1025
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: was the expectation. He called for a first round finish.

1026
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: The money kept pouring in on him. DraftKings. I talked

1027
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: to their sportsbook director, Johnny Avello. Right, they couldn't even

1028
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: set the price high enough to like minus fourteen hundred.

1029
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: I bet our first battle come in on picket fucking nope. Right,

1030
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: everybody banging Nickel despite what the number was, and got

1031
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: it done in a big way. Raymond Any thoughts on

1032
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 3: bon Nickel boh Man.

1033
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: He's going to go right to the top, and you know,

1034
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: it's crazy because this sport is so different from any

1035
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: other sport that he probably could fight for the championship

1036
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: tomorrow and based on he's got so his wrestling is

1037
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: so at such a high level that I don't know

1038
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: if anybody's gonna stop it. So all he has to

1039
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: do is avoid getting hit. And it looks like he's

1040
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: throwing two so it's not you know, it does remind

1041
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: me of Wideman in a way. But here's the difference.

1042
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: I think Boone Nichols said that he's almost been training

1043
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: for MMA and dreaming about this since day one. When

1044
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: Chris came in fifteen years ago, he was wrestling. Then

1045
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: we had to get him with with the stand up,

1046
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: which he I thought he picked up really quickly too.

1047
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: But I think these younger kids that had those accolades

1048
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: that he has, plus they're coming in with some stand up.

1049
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: I think they've been playing around with it. It's a

1050
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: different story now. So I don't know, good luck with

1051
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 2: that guy, and you're definitely not going to out wrestle him.

1052
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: And it looks like his striking looks good. His mindset

1053
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: is awesome right now, there's no kinks in the armor.

1054
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: Seems like a great kid. And yeah, I think everybody's

1055
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: going to be pulling for him too, Kenny.

1056
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: Certainly the fan is intrigued. I think the UFC is intrigued.

1057
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: I thought it was a nice stroke by them to

1058
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: have him fight a second time on Dana White's Contender series.

1059
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 3: But I did fly back to Miami with Mike Brown

1060
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: yesterday and I think Brown he would like to slow

1061
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: the roll a little bit, maybe see bon Nickel get

1062
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: punched in the face a couple times before we get

1063
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: him in the title fight.

1064
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: Your thoughts flow, no, And I think that's where you know,

1065
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: his coaches, his management, uh, you know, needs to be.

1066
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: They need to be on their game as well, giving

1067
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: him the right fights, you know, don't just go right

1068
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: to the top even though his skills, Like Ray, what

1069
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: I think Ray is saying, and I agree with him,

1070
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: is that his skills right now, where he sat, he

1071
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: could beat maybe a lot of the guys the top three,

1072
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: top five right now, no question about it. But experience

1073
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: does matter, uh. I Like I talked about chef Cholf Cut.

1074
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: You know, if I have stock and Schoff Cut, I'd

1075
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: be selling it with bow Nickel. Give me all the shares,

1076
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: give me, give me all the stocks, give me all

1077
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: the shares. This kid's going to the top so long

1078
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: as they bring him up in the right way. Does

1079
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: he need to improve his strike game, maybe a few

1080
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: things on the entries, yeah, sure, But his grappling advantage,

1081
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: he's going to have that against anybody in that division period.

1082
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: He's going to be a champion. I really believe that.

1083
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: If not, he's going to be a superstar. Either way,

1084
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: I'm really high on this kid. I've been watching him

1085
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: since he was wrestling at Penn State. He was a

1086
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: hot shot. Then he's a hot shot now and mixed

1087
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: martial arts and watch out for that kid. Man.

1088
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Let me just there one thing, and I agree

1089
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: with Mike Brown one hundred percent. As a coach, it's

1090
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: very important to me to see sometimes I just make

1091
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: the guy's box. That's it. You can't take down because

1092
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna test you. You're going to test a lot

1093
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: of stuff out. You're really gonna know if you want

1094
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: to be there, because there's no place to go, and

1095
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: you got to see if you can take those shots

1096
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 2: come back, what your demeanor is on everything. So I'm

1097
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: sure they're gonna you could find out in the training

1098
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: room just with Hard's boring. They have a gut, They

1099
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: have an idea on where this guy is ceiling. I mean,

1100
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: everybody knows where a ceiling is, but they know too

1101
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: because when I had Chris and the gym I brought in,

1102
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: you know, pro boxers, one guy was a national champ, undefeated,

1103
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred pounds. I mean, you have to

1104
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: do those things. You have to find out early. And

1105
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: you know when Chris was coming up, he passed all

1106
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: those tests. But you know, there's none of my guys

1107
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: that haven't spot a professional boxer at this point, right.

1108
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: I just think it's huge, you know, especially for the

1109
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: guys that are wrestling. You have to get him out

1110
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: of their comfort zone where they can't rely on, you know,

1111
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: you know, using the takedown, but you know, ken even

1112
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: in boxing, just getting to the clinch, that's an important

1113
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: aspect and that's it's hard not the clinch in boxing.

1114
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: So there's so many good lessons if you do it

1115
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: the right way that I think this kid you can

1116
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: ensure that he's going to get to the top and.

1117
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 3: Then he'll fall in love with his hands, and then

1118
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: later in his career he'll go back to the wrestling

1119
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: and win a world title. You know, I do think

1120
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting to watch Gilbert Burns from

1121
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 3: here in terms of how he approaches all of these fights.

1122
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be jiu jitsu first, and

1123
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 3: almost all of these fights now going forward for Gilbert

1124
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: Durinho Burns. The matchmaking ken Flow, I'm not going to

1125
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: ask you for a name, right, I said on the

1126
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: post show, Bonnickel, maybe you give him like a top

1127
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: twenty five guy. There's certainly strategy that goes into the matchmaking,

1128
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: but inevitably his next fight is going to be on

1129
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: a numbered card, probably International fight week, Right, Is that

1130
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: sort of what your expectation is that it's going to

1131
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: be like a top twenty five guy, or do you

1132
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: think that it's going to be a ranked opponent right

1133
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: now for Bonnickel, Because once you go ranked opponent, you

1134
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: can't go back.

1135
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: That's the thing John exactly. I think Well said, yes,

1136
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be a top twenty five guy

1137
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: right now. I would kind of take it slow, have

1138
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: that development, get him the right fights where maybe he

1139
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: can play with his striking a little bit against another

1140
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: grappler perhaps, you know, you got to go out there

1141
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: see what works. You've got to experiment. Of course, a

1142
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: lot of that should be done in the practice room,

1143
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: but a fight is different than practice. I do think

1144
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: he's a big lights, you know, having seen him wrestle

1145
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: and all that stuff and team trials and all that stuff,

1146
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: but Mma is a different beast. When he walked out,

1147
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: and it's a special feeling, man, when you walk out

1148
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: to a big pay per view card and you see

1149
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: all those fans just hover over you. He looked a

1150
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: little nervous, right, So getting that feel for what it's

1151
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 1: like to walk into an octagon under those circumstances, under

1152
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: that kind of environment is huge. And he did that,

1153
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, very early in his career, which is just nuts.

1154
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to see that kid's career just flourish.

1155
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be It's gonna be an amazing one for sure.

1156
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: And again, his attitude, the way he speaks, his humbleness

1157
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: is humility. Come on, man, no brainer for me, you

1158
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it really is. I'm pulling for

1159
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 2: that kid.

1160
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 3: Michael Chandler not necessarily feeling that humility from Bo Nicols

1161
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: saying he's getting too talky. He needs to just put

1162
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: his head down and do the work, not call out

1163
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: kmzat Shimaya. Largely, I felt like Bo Nickel was super

1164
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 3: humble and accommodating. I mean, there's no doubt Bo Nichols

1165
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 3: a big bow Nickel guy, as my twin brother.

1166
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: Likes to say.

1167
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: But I do believe that there's definitely a humility there.

1168
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: So Ray Longo and I are definitely aligned on that.

1169
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: I actually like what our producer Cody Merrill suggests here.

1170
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: And this is without the benefit of a long list

1171
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: of middleweights, but you know, Bo Nickel, Kenny against someone

1172
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: like Mark Andre Barrio, power bar middleweight who just want

1173
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: to fight this weekend. Now, Barrio's got a lot of

1174
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: UFC experience, He's got a lot of momentum, he's got

1175
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: a lot of cardio.

1176
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: Tough as hell. You know, I don't know.

1177
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: I don't know where he's ranked in terms of the middleweights,

1178
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: if he's like number thirty or what do you think

1179
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: about something like that, Kenny? Is that around the level

1180
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 3: of fighter or I.

1181
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: Think that makes sense? I think that actually makes a

1182
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Cody, you make a lot of sense. No,

1183
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: I think that's that's kind of a perfect fight. Doesn't

1184
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: have to be him specifically, but someone in and around

1185
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: that skill and experience level makes a lot of sense.

1186
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: All right, So quick, Ken Flow is saying in the

1187
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: nicest of ways that he is selling He's he's not

1188
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: selling his bitcoin, he's selling his shot cut Rock Monov

1189
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: stock and Danny Rube is his manager and one of

1190
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 3: our longtime listeners. So Ken, I'm just I love you,

1191
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: I love you Ruby. Yeah, he's gonna text me. He's

1192
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: a great Dude's getting text Can flow later. Big weekend

1193
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: for Danny Ruba. But Piotran against Longo's guy may Rob Wallace.

1194
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: Really we'll get on that in a little bit. But

1195
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 3: shop Cut, Rock Monov and Ian Gary your teammates. And

1196
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: so if I were to ask you guys, which fighter

1197
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: is more likely to realize a UFC championship, I feel

1198
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: pretty convicted the Ken Flow might actually go Ian Gary today.

1199
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: And dude, Ian Gary is the real deal. You talk

1200
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: about bo Nickelby and competitive selectively against guys in the

1201
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: top fifteen. Don't tell me Ian Gary's not ready for

1202
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: top fifteen competition, right bucking now? Because I don't want

1203
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: to hear.

1204
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: Good silence. Ray, what are your thoughts on Ian Gary?

1205
00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: No good fight?

1206
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you must really not like.

1207
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: And a really nice kid. But if you're asking me

1208
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: who's gonna go him or Rock Monov, I'm going with.

1209
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 3: And so is ninety eight percent of the fan base.

1210
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, yeah, right.

1211
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean, but Betty and Gary is a good kid,

1212
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: but he's I don't know. You put Ian Gary in

1213
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 2: there with Jeff Neil tomorrow, It's not gonna look good

1214
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: for Ian Gary.

1215
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing that fight. I would pay to

1216
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 3: see that fight. Sounds like an UFC Fight Night main

1217
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: event to me, Kenny, am I overrating and Gary?

1218
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: Listen? I'll say this. I think Ian Gary has a

1219
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: ton of potential and I think every single time I

1220
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: see him he's better. I think he's confident. I think

1221
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: he is truly studying the game. I think he's put

1222
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: himself in a good position where he's training with high

1223
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: level guys now and he's going to come into his

1224
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: own I was about to tweet, literally about the tweet,

1225
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: this is a perfect round for Ian Gary and just

1226
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: is about ex send it. He gets rocked with a shot.

1227
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, what are you doing? So listen. You know,

1228
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: there's certain things that I think he needs to get

1229
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: better at. And of course, we are mixed martial arts

1230
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: fighters and we are human and we are going to

1231
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: make a mistake because I made a million of them

1232
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: when I thought. But I do think that he is.

1233
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: He's a talented kid who I think is being underrated.

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: What he has going against him is that you have

1235
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, who is, you know, the biggest star in

1236
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: the planet from Ireland and people are like, I don't

1237
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: believe that there's gonna be another dude out of Ireland

1238
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: who's going to kind of gonna do it. And Gary might,

1239
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: he just might. I'd love to see more improvements. I'd

1240
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: like to see him test his grappling a little bit more.

1241
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: I just want to see more from him before I

1242
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: make an assessment. But dude, when he was on fire,

1243
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: he was in a rhythm and he was spanking that dude.

1244
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: He was looking so good, so sharp, and he's taking

1245
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: the right continue to take the right fights.

1246
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: What dude was that again?

1247
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: That's fine, So that's fine, but I happen.

1248
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: To just say no, no, no, I think look I

1249
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: think he's a super talented kid, John, but I think

1250
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: him you have to bring up a little slowly, like again,

1251
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: like a guy like Bo Nicol. I think you could

1252
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: fast track him, if that's what you wanted to do,

1253
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: you'd have a better chance. But I think if with

1254
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: the right matchups for the next four or five fights,

1255
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: I think you could see huge improvements. And he's definitely

1256
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: a talented guy, there's no question about it.

1257
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: But uh no, I mean, I can't wait to be

1258
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 3: misquoted this week right as if I'm suggesting that if

1259
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: Ian Gary fought his teammates Shovcott Rockbhoff this weekend, that

1260
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 3: Ian Gary will win the fight. Now, I might think

1261
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: it would be more competitive than some people out there,

1262
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 3: but people have no idea the extent to which Ian

1263
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 3: Gary is a student of the game, the commitment, the

1264
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 3: technical acumen, cardio is his greatest asset. And don't think

1265
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: for a second when he gets cracked by Song Kanan

1266
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: by perfect punch that his recoverability isn't aided by the

1267
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: fact that he is one of the hardest workers in

1268
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 3: the room. You know, when I hear his coaches and

1269
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 3: I hear his teammates high level coaches and teammates talk

1270
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: about Ian Gary. I'm just saying, and in terms of

1271
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 3: like which is more likely to realize the UFC title fight, Well,

1272
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: you have to get to the title fight and fucking

1273
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 3: win it, you know. So come back to me when

1274
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: Shoftcout rock Moanoff wins the title. You know, I think

1275
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 3: a lot of people think he's the next best thing,

1276
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: and maybe he is, you know, but Ian Gary is

1277
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 3: only twenty five years of old. I wouldn't be surprised

1278
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: to see him win a world championship, right, I.

1279
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: Miss John think I think he made way less mistakes

1280
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: than Shoffcott Rockmanoff.

1281
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: What out of that? That's for sure. That's a good point.

1282
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: But no, no super talented kid in a in a

1283
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: pretty tough division. So I think they have to do

1284
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: I think they have to be more careful bringing him up,

1285
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: and I think he'll be fine because he definitely got

1286
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: the talent, there's absolutely no question. And he seemed like

1287
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: he was very coachable in the corner. He was cohering,

1288
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: he was listening. They had some good exchanges. I mean

1289
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: the thing, I really I can't wrap myhad a rounds

1290
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: and I never want to be in that position like

1291
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: Henry hoof having the guys with the possibility of fighting

1292
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: each other in the gym, like those first two guys

1293
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: on the card, you have to get out of the

1294
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: corner and brutal.

1295
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: I just that's brutal.

1296
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: That stuff drives me absolutely crazy, man, And I think

1297
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: that's a that's just a major problem for somebody's gonna

1298
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 2: get butt hurt eventually, and it's I don't know, I'd

1299
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: have to really talk to Henry about that. I know

1300
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: he's running, he's running a business, and it's hard.

1301
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: You're right, I feel, I mean.

1302
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: That part drives me nuts. John. I never want to

1303
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: see that. And I, you know, almost like with Al

1304
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: Joe and Morot, Thank god, those guys, you know, they

1305
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: hold to their morals and their character and they'll they'll

1306
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: make sure that they work it out the right way.

1307
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: But I would never ever want to see that. I

1308
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't even just be in the arena, right, I turn

1309
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: off the TV. I think I wouldn't even want to

1310
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: see that.

1311
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: Well, No, and increasingly this obviously happens, especially when when

1312
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: you have a team that has such open arms and

1313
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 3: kill Cliff FC has a huge roster, they get sensitive

1314
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 3: sometimes these coaches are more sensitive than the fighters, though.

1315
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 3: Greg Jones getting a little bit sensitive with us over

1316
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 3: the weekend text me and you know it's like there

1317
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 3: are three coaches times twenty eight corners, right, which means

1318
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: that I could probably mention a coach eighty times on

1319
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: the night.

1320
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: We love you, Greg Jones, We love West Virginia Wrestling.

1321
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: But yes, I mean Lowek Rajabob and Sdevon Ribevic's Kenny.

1322
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 3: They fight in the first fight of the night. Henry

1323
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: Hoof was supposed to corner. Ribevis pulls himself from the

1324
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: corner because he's fighting a teammate. But these two guys

1325
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: kind of had different takes as to just how much

1326
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 3: they had trained together. You know, Rajabab didn't seem to

1327
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 3: really think that there was that type of intimate relationship.

1328
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: You did see them embrace thereafter, But yeah, tough spot

1329
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 3: for a coach to be in for sure.

1330
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: Never even that great.

1331
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: That was a great fight. That was a really good fight.

1332
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: So drakis dupless over Derek Brunson. Brunson's boxing coach. Drey

1333
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 3: Hurd throws in the towel with one second to go

1334
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: in that second round, Ray, what'd you think of all

1335
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 3: of that.

1336
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: Right decision. You know, I like their runs, but I

1337
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: think it was the right decision. He was starting to

1338
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: look like he was on ice gates and just didn't

1339
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: look like he had it, So I think a good call.

1340
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: Probably try to see more of that in the future.

1341
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not easy when you're in the corner

1342
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: and you've been with a guy for a while or

1343
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: you know certain things about him. It's you know, it's

1344
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: not as black and white as I think it is

1345
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: for the people looking on the outside. But I think

1346
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 2: that was the right move.

1347
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,479
Speaker 3: Kenny Drinks Due plus C said to Joe Rogan maybe

1348
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 3: backstage on Friday that he needs to have some procedure

1349
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: done on his nose. He's essentially mouth breathing the whole fight.

1350
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: He's been able to get to the top five now

1351
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: despite that condition. What were your overall thoughts on the

1352
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 3: South African, on the corner stoppage and everything else.

1353
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, I've never was hitting my nose, not once,

1354
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: so I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah,

1355
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: I could breathe for the majority of my career pretty

1356
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: much out of my notes, but yeah, I'll say this, man,

1357
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: listen toughness was the difference in that one. You know,

1358
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: both guys were super tough. I thought there were you know,

1359
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: both guys were taking damage. They both seemed like they

1360
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: were very winded at various parts during that fight. Derek

1361
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 1: Brunson to me his base, like his stance and how

1362
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,959
Speaker 1: he was standing and how he was positioning his chin.

1363
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised that that hasn't been rectified, like that

1364
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: should have been rectified like eight fights ago. And he

1365
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: continues to do that over and over again. And what

1366
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: you're doing is you're putting your head on a platter.

1367
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: And Drakis de Pilissi was making some mistakes with his

1368
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: stance as well, but not as badly as to what

1369
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 1: Derek Brunson was doing. I'm glad they stopped the fight.

1370
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: It was the right thing to do. He was taking

1371
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: like one too many shots. Uh And yeah, you know,

1372
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,959
Speaker 1: I think the other thing for Derek Brunce, I can't

1373
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: get a Derek Brunton fight, right. I don't think I've

1374
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: ever picked a Derek Brunson fight correctly. I thought this

1375
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: was a good fight for him because, uh, du plus,

1376
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's so hard duplus c I thought,

1377
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of sloppy. He's tough as nails

1378
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: and he's a grinder, but he makes a ton of

1379
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: mistakes and he tries to wrestle guys. I was like,

1380
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: all right, Derek Brunson is a better wrestler than duples Cee.

1381
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: He's got this, well, he didn't get this.

1382
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: And and Kenny, I tell you, if Widman had to

1383
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: make a comeback, if when he when he makes a comeback,

1384
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: which I think he will, I think there's not a

1385
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: better fight than him in Dupless. Yes, I think it's

1386
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: a I think it's not a better fight. Yeah, you know,

1387
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: because he will, he'll definitely, you know, strategize.

1388
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: His rights right now duplus C you know.

1389
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: So Yeah, Yeah, I think it's a great that's a

1390
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: great fight with Chris uh when he's ready to go.

1391
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: That that's the fight I would tell you if I

1392
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: if I had anything to say, not that you know,

1393
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm talking to him every day now, but if I

1394
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: had anything to do with it, that's the fight I'm taking.

1395
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: I agree, right longo, this is a big week for you.

1396
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: Before we let you go.

1397
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: May Rob Dwallas Willie at the Virgin There in Las

1398
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 3: veg Guess not at the UFC Apex. Despite public perception,

1399
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 3: Morob Dwallis, Willie Pyotr Jan under the light Saturday night.

1400
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 3: Talk to me, brother, huge, huge fight. I mean, Morob

1401
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 3: has won eight fights in a row following the unluckiest

1402
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 3: zero to two start in UFC history. I mean you

1403
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 3: can argue this guy has had like a near perfect career.

1404
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: I went through it this morning.

1405
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean I almost pulled up the Frankie Seines fight

1406
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: this morning because I was like, you know so, but

1407
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 3: talk to me because it all comes down to this one.

1408
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: Ramon. Yeah, this is a listen, huge fight, come on,

1409
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 2: extremely tough fight. I think styles obviously make fights. I

1410
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: think Morob's got to do what Morob always does. He's

1411
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: got to really uh you know, his tempo is definitely

1412
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 2: not normal, and I think he's got to, you know,

1413
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: do what. He's just got to grind it out. He's

1414
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: got to just he's got the cardio, you know, to

1415
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: do it. To keep trying to put him on his back.

1416
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: It should off set his striking enough. And Morob does

1417
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 2: hit hard. He's not the most technical striker, but he's

1418
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: not He's he's willing to throw I mean, that's part

1419
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: of these of his takedowns, Kenny, is that he's not

1420
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: faking a punching going. He's punching you and taking you

1421
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: down like he's committing like this. It's it's hard to defend.

1422
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: So uh, you know, I haven't really been a big

1423
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: part of his camp. I swore him when I was

1424
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: out there talking to Al Joe a little bit. But

1425
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, Morob's gonna do what Morob's gonna do. At

1426
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: the end of the day, he is he is the

1427
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: machine for a reason, and uh he's I'm excited for

1428
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 2: the fight.

1429
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: Well, I wish you all the best.

1430
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: No man nor woman has ever cornered three times against

1431
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 3: Pyotr Jan ray Longo two and oh heads up against

1432
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 3: Pyotr Jan, trying to make it three and oh this

1433
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 3: weekend brother Peoter John also represented by Danny rubincidentally, So, uh,

1434
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 3: we'll see how it does.

1435
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 2: You know, Pidan has to know we were all out

1436
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: to eat with Danny. Yeah, Al Joe, Marob. He didn't

1437
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: want to be in the picture and he was running.

1438
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 2: He was running away from the camera. Hey, No, Ruby's

1439
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: a good guy. He's got a lot of guys. Wait,

1440
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: we're not Wait we're not talking about the Jones fight.

1441
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: What do we do? Oh?

1442
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: Please, by all, man's talk to me. I'm trying to

1443
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: be respectful of your time.

1444
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: I respect my time was a huge fight. I mean,

1445
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 2: I just kind of can you ever see any you

1446
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 2: guys see Stripes? Did you ever see the movie Stripes?

1447
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: Not for a long time. It's hilarious.

1448
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's that scene where they they're behind enemy

1449
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: lines and they're in the back of the truck. They

1450
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: all have their rifles and they open up and the

1451
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: other side is pointing at them, and he's just give

1452
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: them the guns. Yeah, it's it's okay. I get John

1453
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 2: Candy starts going, okay, let's give both. I was like

1454
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: World War Two all over again. What the hell was

1455
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: hey looking at? But hats off to John Jones with

1456
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: all the uh, you know, it was good. You know

1457
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: the guy the other guy had great guillotine defense to.

1458
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: No, please, no, I'm gonna take five minutes more of

1459
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: your time. All right, I'm gonna take five minutes more

1460
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 3: of your time to talk about John Jones and Alexa

1461
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 3: Grosso very quickly. I apologize. I realized us during the

1462
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 3: bon Nickel conversation, right, But yes. I mean there are

1463
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 3: a lot of angles right on not just the John

1464
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 3: Jones side, but the Seattle Gan side as well. Kenny

1465
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: and I were sort of bemoaning the fact that he's

1466
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 3: had fourteen fifteen months since the Francis in Ghanu fight,

1467
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: that knowing that it was either going to be steep

1468
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 3: air John Jones, that if you really are going to

1469
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: have any sort of you know, sustained championship run once,

1470
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 3: you got to take advantage of that time. And seemingly

1471
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 3: he has not been doing that.

1472
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: Man. I tell you what, just I wouldn't even let

1473
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: that guy had any striking, no paid work. All you're

1474
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: gonna do you wrestle. That's it. You're gonna wrestle until

1475
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 2: somebody can't get you down, and then you're gonna keep going.

1476
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: Like I just you, John, You hit that on the head, man,

1477
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 2: you really, you hit it on the head with the

1478
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 2: just the appet you know, the appetite for it, the

1479
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: app no, not the the app apathetic is it is

1480
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: all yeah apathetic you know, like there's just carefree attitude

1481
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: just yeah, you know it's a fu dude. No, it's

1482
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 2: a heavyweight championship of the world. Like John Jones was listen.

1483
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: He was dead on, man, John Joe. Look, he called it.

1484
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: Got to give it up to him. You know, I'm

1485
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: not the biggest John Jones fam. I mean, I always

1486
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: respected his talent. But he called what he was going

1487
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 2: to do, you got to give it up to him,

1488
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: and he went in and did it. And just the

1489
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: way he was calling it out, like, dude is a

1490
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm here focusing on what I have to do. You're

1491
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: playing video games like the guy's dead on. I don't know,

1492
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, as a coach, you

1493
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: know there's certain guys you just can't get through to.

1494
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not really even the coaches problem,

1495
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: it's just the guy's problem. But I thought, I mean,

1496
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just didn't look like he gave

1497
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: a shit one way to the other. And I think

1498
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: you had said that and it kind of played out

1499
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: that way. To me, that's the way.

1500
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm really happy for John Jones,

1501
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 3: right aside from my personal relationship with him, which is

1502
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 3: very strong. Winning to him is everything, Kenny, and there

1503
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 3: are a lot of fighters who are able to detach

1504
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 3: themselves from a singular win or a singular loss. Two

1505
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: guys that come to mind, Sean O'Malley and Israelata Sonya,

1506
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 3: are very much able to detach themselves from one singular result. Now,

1507
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 3: O'Malley obviously hasn't won the world title out of Sonya

1508
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 3: has right, but to John Jones, winning is everything. And

1509
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he would, you know, do something

1510
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: drastic to preserve a win, but it matters to him

1511
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 3: so damn much that I don't know.

1512
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1513
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 3: You know, I know sele Gond's angry, but I don't

1514
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: know that it matters as much to him, you know,

1515
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 3: And I don't know.

1516
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what? What? What's he angry about?

1517
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't really know.

1518
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 3: He didn't expand necessarily upon the No. I think that

1519
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: was one of his emotions after the fat well, I mean,

1520
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: be angry that he got embarrassing from you.

1521
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: I'd like to be angry, angry because I didn't train

1522
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: the right way, Angry because I didn't die it the

1523
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 2: right way, Angry because I didn't practice. What are you

1524
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: angry about? No? I would love to know.

1525
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: You're right, right?

1526
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's got to have just massive regret,

1527
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,520
Speaker 3: right because.

1528
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: He had training partners that were half his size because

1529
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: he didn't Yeah right right, yeah.

1530
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you know, you know who's more angry

1531
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: than you? Poor fuck? Is that better?

1532
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?

1533
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: What did?

1534
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: He was one of those things right right? It's like

1535
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: you want the guy, you want the fighter who points

1536
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: out himself first and be like, I fucked up, and

1537
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, what are you angry about? You angry

1538
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: about other things? The way the fight went down as

1539
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: supposed to going, No, I could have done way better,

1540
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: uh in my training camp to prepare for this fight.

1541
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: So we'll see how he comes back. He's got so

1542
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: much talent, and again that can be a blessing and

1543
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: a curse. John Jones knows all about that.

1544
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh wout is that John Jones? We said in the thing.

1545
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 2: One thing he does he knows how to compete. And

1546
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: you know, look, I would have loved to just like

1547
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 2: with bow Nickel, I get like with Mike Brown, I

1548
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: would have loved to see John Jones tested a little

1549
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: more at heavyweight, but we really, you know, didn't get

1550
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: to see anything. He made that look so simple that

1551
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 2: God bless him, man, hats off to him, and the

1552
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: fact that he just predicted it and the way he

1553
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: said it like it came to fruition. So I don't

1554
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: all you could do is be happy for the guy

1555
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 2: the way he performed. But the other guy, I'd love

1556
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: to know what he was angry about that.

1557
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean there's no there's just no substitute

1558
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 3: for hard work, right. I remember when Jarzinio rosen strikes

1559
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 3: sign with the UFC, and I said, what's the big difference?

1560
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: Now?

1561
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 3: He's a trained three times a day instead of two?

1562
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 3: And it sort of feels like that's got to be though.

1563
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 3: You approach like this whole career, man, so that when

1564
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 3: you get there, you know, Like my eleven year old daughter, right,

1565
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 3: there's things. Obviously she knows everything right, but it's like,

1566
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 3: you know, I said, I said that the worst part

1567
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 3: about your existence, honey, right now is that you still

1568
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: have no idea what hard work is.

1569
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: Right.

1570
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: You think you know, and then all of a sudden

1571
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: in a couple of years when middle school gets hard, right,

1572
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 3: it's going to be like, damn, you know, I wish

1573
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 3: you could know right now at eleven what hard work

1574
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 3: actually is because you don't know, and I don't know, man.

1575
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: You know, if you're listening out there and you're young,

1576
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 3: work hard, right, Yeah, yeah.

1577
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 2: Really, I mean that's but honestly, it's it's simple advice,

1578
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: but it's the right advice. And unfortunately with this sport.

1579
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: That's why a guy like bau Nickel, because of his

1580
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: wrestling experience. I mean, I mean, you put them up

1581
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: against Derek Bronson or Duplessis, what do you think is

1582
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 2: gonna happen? The guy's got four to five, Well, Kenny,

1583
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1584
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 1: It's not it won't even be a fight. He'll smash.

1585
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: It's a little it's a little bit of a problem

1586
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: with this sort not a problem, but it's the only

1587
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 2: sport where you can still get away with something like that.

1588
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 2: You're not getting away with a guy that was a

1589
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame baseball player jumping over to football. It's

1590
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: not gonna it doesn't work like that. But you can

1591
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: be a wrestler, a stud wrest like bow Nickel. You're

1592
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 2: gonna knock out ninety percent of the people right off

1593
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: the bat. Ninety percent. Now, the way you bring him up,

1594
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: I can't believe it back to him again, But the

1595
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: way you bring him up is obviously going to be important.

1596
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 2: But that's the crazy part. You could get that guy

1597
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 2: into the top three. All right?

1598
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 3: No, well, well hey look at Alex Paaide and Sean Strickman, right,

1599
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's a if you can find a

1600
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 3: willing party in that top five, right right, I mean right,

1601
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 3: if you were to do a main event. And I

1602
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 3: know this is a huge stretch, right bo Nickel and

1603
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 3: drinks duplus C right now, you know what I mean?

1604
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, is that not a competitor? You tell me

1605
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: right now?

1606
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 3: Bow Nichols not the betting favorite on paper, and that

1607
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 3: would put him in the top five.

1608
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: Who's favorite? Kenny? Do that?

1609
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1610
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: Massively favored very quickly.

1611
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,759
Speaker 3: Ray and Alexa Grosso's post fight interview with Joe Rogan,

1612
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 3: she intimated that they had worked very hard to potentially

1613
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 3: use some of the spinning attacks against Valentina chev Chanko.

1614
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 3: She just released a post on her social media intimating

1615
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 3: that back take they identified maybe that they'd be able

1616
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 3: to get to it off a spinning kick. They had

1617
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 3: worked it for months, worked it in the back before

1618
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 3: the fight on Saturday, and it ultimately produces a world championship.

1619
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: Heads off to the coaching stiff. Yeah, I mean, and

1620
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: I tell you when she laid on that neck, man, Kenny.

1621
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 2: That was a back take from hell there was that

1622
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 2: was crazy, you know, just like yeah, you know, but

1623
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I think it'll make for a good rematch.

1624
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: But there wasn't a big discrepancy standing up. Yeah, so

1625
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a that's a really intriguing rematch, you

1626
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: know for sure. But I just think, you know, look,

1627
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: you can only go up for so long. We've been

1628
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: through this with everybody, right, I don't know if this

1629
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: is Valentina's time. She showed a little kink you know,

1630
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 2: in the Armagh with the last fight, maybe, but uh,

1631
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: she's gonna have to tune up a couple of things

1632
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: to win that fight because I think I think you

1633
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: standing up wise, I think she was getting the worst

1634
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: of it.

1635
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I thought that both realized success. But I

1636
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 3: think Valentina, maybe if she watches his back show, feel

1637
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 3: like it wasn't even as dominant as maybe she thought

1638
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 3: it was initially. After the fact, you know, I thought

1639
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,879
Speaker 3: it was a close, competitive fight really from the outset.

1640
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. No, that was

1641
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: definitely a close fight. I guess you have to give

1642
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: the rounds to Valentina. For the for the takedowns were beautiful,

1643
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 2: but then yeah, she look Valentine is got every right

1644
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 2: to say she did make that one mistake and I

1645
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: think course of the fight, but that was it was

1646
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 2: a huge mistake.

1647
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: I thought. What was interesting, even as she was winning,

1648
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: there was a bit of desperation on Valentina that we

1649
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: haven't seen before.

1650
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, all all I know is when they stepped

1651
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 2: in the pocket that dak Grosso got the best of

1652
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: those exchanges the other Valentina a nice jab, but she

1653
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: was too stiff on those uh you know, inside inside

1654
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: exchanges where you know, the boxing started to look look

1655
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,839
Speaker 2: really in uh Grosso's favors. So but but a good rematch.

1656
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: I think she can make some adjustments and win that fight.

1657
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 2: That's that's the good news. But that was a great fight. Man,

1658
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: Holy crap, that came out of nowhere.

1659
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, we'll save travels to Vegas.

1660
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 3: We'll be watching And I'm not trying to bang on

1661
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 3: your barber, but like I would, I don't know, a

1662
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 3: little tighter on the sides, maybe get the hair off

1663
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 3: the ears. You're gonna be all over television this weekend,

1664
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 3: and it looks a little wayward.

1665
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: I mean, this is actually a wig.

1666
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: It looks like a fucking way It looks like goddamn

1667
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: hair piece.

1668
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: Oh, it is a wig. It's a die.

1669
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,560
Speaker 1: Will It kind of looks like that.

1670
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: Hey, uh, you know, but you're not cool in the

1671
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 2: fight this weekend.

1672
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 3: No, I asked to do the pay per view in

1673
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: London next weekend instead, with respect, No, I got two

1674
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: pay per views in three weeks, so I couldn't make it.

1675
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: You think they asked You think they asked John? You

1676
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: think John asked to do the pay per viewer? Come

1677
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: on the fucking eight. I'm on the eighth. My whole

1678
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 1: life being.

1679
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 3: The bridesmaid on the B team, Now I can say

1680
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 3: I'm on the eighth.

1681
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 5: Wow, now you're the bride. I'll talk to you guys.

1682
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 5: Thank you, good luck, Yeah, thank you. Let's go get

1683
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 5: that w Kenny, get.

1684
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: Gunzales in the PFL.

1685
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: Would you I have zero power, right, but I'll do

1686
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: my yeah, imagine.

1687
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 2: No.

1688
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 3: I mean I've had UFC fighters after they lose two

1689
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 3: or three in a row come up to me at

1690
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 3: the host hotel to see if I can do anything.

1691
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 3: And one time I softly tried to go to Sean

1692
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 3: Shelby with some like, hey, so let me ask you this,

1693
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 3: like if a fighter loses three in a row and

1694
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 3: two of three are on short note as, he's likely

1695
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 3: to just stop.

1696
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we're getting slept if we do that.

1697
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 3: All right, I know Brian Peter's been a patient man.

1698
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 3: I quickly want to get to our pronunciation of the

1699
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: week because it features one of the athletes in the

1700
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 3: co main events. So let's see what Cody Merrow has

1701
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 3: for us on this one. This is a fighter who

1702
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 3: spells his name Alexander with no E, last name spelled

1703
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: r O M A n O V. He was undefeated

1704
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: prior to his last fight against marchen Tebora, and this

1705
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 3: is an interesting audio file. So before we get to that,

1706
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 3: Cody Merrow, what do you have for us on this

1707
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 3: budding UFC heavyweight contender.

1708
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to cut them at it with some

1709
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 4: confidence and maybe I shouldn't, but last week Kak Romanov,

1710
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 4: but this week we're going Romanov Alexander.

1711
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: Let's see what he says. Alexander King Kong Romanov, Alexander

1712
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: King Khan Romanov. Cody Merrow's on fire.

1713
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 3: Now, it did sound on the first one that maybe

1714
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 3: you can argue for that second syllable, but people do

1715
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: screw this up, Kenny, and it is Romanov, as emphasized

1716
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 3: in that second take. And uh, after a bad twenty

1717
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,440
Speaker 3: twenty two Cody.

1718
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 4: I mean, I got a trip to Moscow books them

1719
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,799
Speaker 4: crushing these Russian is unlivablestan.

1720
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: We're not coming back, dude.

1721
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 3: How about John Jones calling him cereal gain all week?

1722
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: Huh, gotta love it. I think he does that ship

1723
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: on purpose, man, just like just I don't even know

1724
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: your name. I'm just fighting you. I don't care like

1725
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hold it together when he's calling him,

1726
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: we're doing it.

1727
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 4: In well and could you believe they had a former

1728
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 4: Patriot Chandler Jones there. Him and Art make John look

1729
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 4: like a child even at.

1730
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: Heavyweight, I mean, crazy beast man because John is so big.

1731
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: That's a good point. All right.

1732
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: Let us call on the host of the m MA

1733
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 3: Takes podcast. Hopefully when he goes on Serious XM, this

1734
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: budding media mogul, they're introducing him from the Anakin Floran podcast.

1735
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: But maybe not. I don't even know they didn't they

1736
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 1: introduced me for my podcast.

1737
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 6: I said, hey, I gave you a shot, though, John,

1738
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 6: I said, I'm using my betting side. I was dead

1739
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 6: wrong about it, but I'm using my betting strategy for you.

1740
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, they introduced me for MMA Takes.

1741
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: I said, what what? Hang on a second, all right?

1742
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I promote the MMA Takes podcast every week

1743
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 3: on this goddamn program. But let's under pretend that the

1744
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: MMA Takes podcast is the one that got you on

1745
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 3: Serious XM satellite radio handicapped a second podcast. But hey,

1746
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: you know how happy we are for you. I say

1747
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 3: all of that in jest. Absolutely What kind of T

1748
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 3: shirt we got today?

1749
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: Huh? Kind of T shirt we got today? Oh? Yeah?

1750
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 6: So my YouTube channel broke one hundred one thousand subscribers.

1751
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: Like two months ago. Congrat you know. I club one

1752
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: k no body the shirts Takes podcast dot com?

1753
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 6: Little plug, little plug there, John, you got one coming, Kenny,

1754
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 6: I don't have your dress, but I'm gonna send you.

1755
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: Some mark here. He was not going to give you

1756
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 1: his address.

1757
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 3: You.

1758
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 6: I found this do you remember the hat that you

1759
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 6: railed Kenny on? I found this hat or that's incredible,

1760
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:08,759
Speaker 6: And I'm like, when's Kenny's birthday?

1761
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna need to send him one of these hats.

1762
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: Unbelievable son of setting my address. No, he does not

1763
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: have a post office box.

1764
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 3: You probably maybe have you send it to like the

1765
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 3: pfl h Q that works Kempflow. Maybe text him your

1766
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: address after the show if you kind all right, We're

1767
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 3: gonna update the standings right now. So I essentially told

1768
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 3: you guys last week that bo Nickel should have been

1769
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 3: a Max bet. I mean, you know, I can't get

1770
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 3: too predictive, but I sort of insinuated that, yes, it

1771
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 3: would put you in an eight thousand dollars hole. But

1772
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: as someone who's been on sports almost every day since

1773
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six, Brian Peter, what are we doing? Man,

1774
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 3: Boon Nickel, Jamie Pickett Man, sometimes you gotta, you know,

1775
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: you gotta pull out your testicles and take a point.

1776
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: A hundred percent.

1777
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 6: My uh my buddies, my sharp buddies texted me and said,

1778
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 6: what are we doing?

1779
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: You're not Max because I'm a bow Nickel guy, like

1780
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1781
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 6: Want to seem like a square, like you know, he's so.

1782
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: High, but rest is short in real life.

1783
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 6: I went all in on bow Nickel, all in bow

1784
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 6: Nickel in Round one submission too, and then I almost

1785
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 6: hit the under half round, which I had a nice

1786
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 6: little check on as well. He had that arm time

1787
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 6: on my Jamie's grimacing. It's like fifteen seconds, Mike, Jamie, you.

1788
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: Toughed it up.

1789
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 6: But let's good to quit tap. Yeah, let's cast your boy.

1790
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 6: Uh didn't happen, but yeah, I'm a happy man bow Nickel.

1791
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 6: I mean he does what he does.

1792
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1793
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 3: No, and you also had Shovcott rock Mono by submission.

1794
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 3: You don't get any extra credit here for that, but uh,

1795
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see how this goes the rest

1796
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 3: of the day. Let us update the standings. And I

1797
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 3: almost didn't make you guys both go minus six' ten

1798
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 3: On Valentina. Chefchenko but that's why they play the.

1799
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: Games So.

1800
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 3: Petre started the week minus five hundred and ten dollars

1801
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 3: on the. Year Kenny floorian was minus one hundred and

1802
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 3: ninety five. Dollars petree had A man Of heboss minus one.

1803
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 3: Thirty Ken flow had the Audiata uzo plus one. Ten

1804
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 3: So petrie gets the better end of that. One you

1805
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 3: both Had Derek brunson minus one. Hundred petrie took a

1806
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 3: shot On trevin five Star jones had to be disappointed

1807
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 3: in that. Effort Hunh cody or excuse, me hump Bry.

1808
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: Well that was My.

1809
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 6: John annick bet BECAUSE i Wanted cody to, win SO

1810
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 6: i played against.

1811
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: Myself so what did you guys make? Life what did

1812
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: you guys make of that? Fight very, QUICKLY.

1813
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 6: I Thought, CODY i mean he came out and said

1814
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,839
Speaker 6: he was. INJURED i thought he felt. Smart Right Trevin, jones,

1815
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 6: THOUGH i mean throw a. PUNCH i, mean this guy's

1816
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 6: chinny and you're staring at. HIM i don't know what

1817
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 6: he was. DOING i Thought cody mix it. In, well

1818
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 6: he was show but a little bit in my first,

1819
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 6: round his takedowns looking. Explosive but, YEAH i think this

1820
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 6: is just you're gonna look on The john likes to

1821
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 6: say this The wikipedia. Page it's gonna be a green.

1822
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 6: Stripe but you're gonna forget about. Performance it's just a

1823
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 6: it's just a. Win so he's not coming off four

1824
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 6: or five losses in my, opinion.

1825
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, BRIAN i. AGREE i thought it was a nice

1826
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: fight to build. From. Right it was one of those

1827
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 1: performances where he's trying some new. Things he wasn't just being.

1828
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Reckless out. There he was moving his, feet he was

1829
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: joking and, jiving and it was good to see. That

1830
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: was it a perfect, Performance, No BUT i also think

1831
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: it takes two to tango And Trevin, jones like you,

1832
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: SAID bp wasn't moving, forward wasn't trying to throw a

1833
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: lot of. SHOTS i, mean what was his punch count

1834
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: at the end of or strike count at the end

1835
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: of the, Fight probably, very very, Low So cody didn't

1836
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: have a whole lot to work. WITH i think as,

1837
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: Well cody was looking to, counter WHICH i think is

1838
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: When Cody cody is actually at his. Best but either,

1839
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: way it was good to See cody get back on.

1840
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: Track that dude has so much, potential obviously a former,

1841
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: champion And i'd like to see him get back to

1842
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: that championship, form AND i think he think he still.

1843
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 1: Can't Garb brent was given several possible replacement. Opponents he

1844
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: landed on the south Paw Trevin, jones because he was

1845
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: training for a south Paw Julio. Rsa by the, Way

1846
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Dean thomas texted me That Valentina chefchanko didn't seem ready

1847
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: for some of the south paw tendencies Of Alexa grosso as.

1848
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: WELL i just got that message From, dan all, right

1849
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: so you both hit on Bow Nickel Ken fog gets

1850
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: the better of the. Disagreement On Matag's gamrod And Jalen,

1851
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: turner it was a split Decision Brian petrie, objectively who

1852
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: did you think won that? Fight it's, okay it Was cologner,

1853
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: listening BUT i thought it was. Close.

1854
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 6: YEAH i had money on, him and then after the

1855
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 6: first round he was plus one ninety AND i, SAID

1856
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 6: i thought he won the first. Round let's go live. Betting,

1857
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 6: right guys are with. Me they thought he won as.

1858
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 6: Well it's, listen you never can he me see the word, robbery,

1859
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 6: Right it was just so very. CLOSE i just Thought

1860
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 6: jalen when he was up laying it more. Damage he

1861
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 6: dropped him a few times at the. Matouche besides the

1862
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 6: second round where he actually did ground and. POUND i

1863
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 6: thought the takedowns were kind of just nol and. Void

1864
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 6: they were just kind of holding. There but, again That's

1865
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 6: Jalen turner's to get up get.

1866
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: Out you.

1867
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 6: Know there was a couple of moments there, where, uh you,

1868
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 6: know in the first and the third round Where jalen

1869
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 6: looked pretty good off his back and he's working his way.

1870
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: Up BUT i think what really.

1871
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 6: Done it was at the very, last like ten second

1872
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 6: Clapper gamrock got mount real, quick AND i mean that

1873
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 6: probably gave him the.

1874
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:01,560
Speaker 2: ROUND i.

1875
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 6: Know the judge thirty twenty seven to me's. Absurd i'm,

1876
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 6: SORRY i know it's a close. Fight that's absurd to.

1877
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 6: ME i don't know what judge of, that but it was.

1878
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 6: CLOSE i did Have, turner you, know we're scoring damage in,

1879
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 6: there AND i thought he did more.

1880
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: Damage but, uh fun. FIGHT i liked. It it Was

1881
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: it was a good test For.

1882
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 3: Turner they say fighters and, COACHES i say are. Sensitive

1883
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 3: so are. Commentators IF i go listen to your interview

1884
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 3: on TIERS xm and there's no mention of The Anakin florin,

1885
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 3: Podcast i'm not going on TIERRUS xm Until International Flight.

1886
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 3: Week so, Seriously i'm not going on And i'm not

1887
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 3: going on that channel Until International Fight week if they

1888
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 3: didn't mention our.

1889
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 1: Podcasts so all.

1890
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 3: Right you both lost six hundred and ten bucks On

1891
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 3: Valentina chevchenko and then you both hit On Johnny collinses

1892
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 3: no extra units minus five to ten For petrie on the,

1893
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 3: week minus three ten For Ken, flow who was five and,

1894
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 3: three so It's petrie minus ten Twenty Ken flow is

1895
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 3: minus five oh. Five as we come up on UF

1896
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 3: Sex Night Night jan Versus Dwalash willie and we begin

1897
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 3: with an outstanding fight at bantamwait seventeen and Two sayied

1898
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 3: AND R mago medal minus two hundred Versus Jonathan martinez

1899
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 3: plus one on Seventy Normogo metops won four in a,

1900
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 3: row never been finished as a. Pro martinez just the

1901
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 3: silent killer bride right keeps getting better with every passing.

1902
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 3: Fight he's also won four in a, row finished the

1903
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: hell a lot of cup. Swants in Last, october saw

1904
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 3: You nermago met Up Jonathan, martinez a vandam wit.

1905
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: Kid which way you?

1906
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 4: Going?

1907
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah four fight win STREAK versu four fight win. STREAK i.

1908
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:19,759
Speaker 1: Got this is a juicy.

1909
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 6: FIGHT i like this, fight AND i faded both guys

1910
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 6: in the past from bad.

1911
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Performances And i've, paid.

1912
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 6: Literally i've literally paid dearly for it because both these,

1913
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 6: guys The barcelos fight With said and then The Andre

1914
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 6: sukuma fight With John.

1915
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: MARTINEZ i think these guys are not good and they

1916
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: just go and.

1917
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 6: Win oh, man you the last fight with said though

1918
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 6: he looked really good after The barcelos. Fight he's in

1919
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 6: a four fight win. Streak he's finished two of them

1920
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 6: like he's going out there and he's looking for. NEXT

1921
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 6: a guillotine is. Nasty and his last fight was a

1922
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 6: high paced. Fighter the guy was in his. Face he

1923
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 6: was he was getting kicked in the, body as you.

1924
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 6: Know he had to use all his skills and he

1925
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 6: poured it out and that looked really. Good martinez is

1926
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 6: look good on the. Feet his kicks are really, heavy they're.

1927
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 6: GOOD i, mean he chopped a Cup Cup swanson down

1928
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 6: great me up the middle as. Well but he tends

1929
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 6: to kind of lose some fights and kind of rally.

1930
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 6: Back that's kind of his calling. Card he'll drop them

1931
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 6: a little bit then a rally. Back chin's been a

1932
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 6: little bit of an, ISSUE i, think and he's been

1933
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 6: knocked out, before BUT i just don't think the pace

1934
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 6: he's gonna be able to keep up. With he hasn't

1935
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 6: really fought a heavy grappler or. That Maybe frankie signs,

1936
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 6: maybe But frankie might have been a little past his

1937
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 6: prime at that. Point seventy percent takedown of, fence which is,

1938
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 6: good but he hasn't fought a dude from the mountains Of,

1939
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 6: dakistan you know WHAT i? Mean and said's very well around.

1940
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 6: It SO i like, said, here, LISTEN i didn't lock

1941
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 6: anybody up last. WEEK i got shipped from my Boys

1942
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 6: John anick, rightfully.

1943
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: So the top of the. Shield, yeah it bothered, me,

1944
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: RIGHT i don't bet. Scared i'm not gonna pick.

1945
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:42,759
Speaker 6: Scared get me said, here three unit, play let's chim.

1946
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: Away let's go bab this guy? Man all?

1947
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 3: Right Sayid R Mago medov six hundred dollars to pay

1948
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 3: three hundred Dollars Ken Flow satan Or Magel Mattap Jonathan,

1949
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 3: martinez who do you?

1950
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: Like? Uh real? Quick you know you guys are talking

1951
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: about the Bon nickel. Fight i'm an asshole for not

1952
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: putting it at all On John. Jones like what were

1953
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: we thinking not putting On? John i'm saying it's gonna

1954
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: be an easy fight on the, ground And John jones

1955
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: was definitely gonna try to take it. There why the

1956
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 1: hell DIDN'T i just put all the units On?

1957
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 3: Jones, anyways you guys were so, convicted both of you

1958
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 3: guys On John jones.

1959
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: Last that's the one for me that kind of hurts me.

1960
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: More but, anyways all, right let's go to. Said, YEAH

1961
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 1: i think this Is Nirmaga medoff's. FIGHT i Think Jonathan

1962
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: martinez could post some. Problems, HOWEVER i think he's. TOUGH

1963
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 1: i think he's, scrappy but LIKE bp, said there's certain

1964
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: times where he tunes out of the fight a little

1965
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: bit and can. FADE i don't see that happening With Nirmaga.

1966
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: MEDOFF i think he's gonna keep the pressure hot and

1967
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: heavy throughout that, fight AND i think he's got more

1968
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 1: ways to. WIN i don't Think martinez can win this

1969
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: fight on the. GROUND i do Think Normaga medoff. Can

1970
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: both are are good on the feat but, YEAH i

1971
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 1: like sayit.

1972
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 3: Here Right next up at, Featherweight Hikardo homos minus three

1973
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 3: twenty five taking On Austin lingo plus two to. Seventy

1974
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 3: kind of rare to see a fighter who's nine to

1975
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 3: one have plus two to seventy next to his, name

1976
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 3: But lingo hasn't fought Since august twenty twenty, one had

1977
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 3: a couple of tough matchups go away last, year including

1978
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 3: a fight With Jonathan. Pierce also had to pull out

1979
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 3: of a fight Against David oama during fight week Last.

1980
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 3: July on the other, SIDE, Bp homos lost to the

1981
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 3: aforementioned Site Nermago medov and forts a laser back in twenty.

1982
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 3: Nineteen he has won three of five with two bonuses

1983
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 3: since returning two one hundred and forty five. Pounds you're

1984
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 3: Going homos the big favorite Or lingo the dog?

1985
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Here?

1986
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 6: Kid, SEE i hate this, line but MAYBE i love.

1987
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 6: It it's confusing to, Me like you, Said lingo nine to.

1988
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 6: One you, KNOW i know he's coming from THE. Lfa

1989
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 6: he he's, good but is he? Great he's got some

1990
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 6: favorable matchups coming to THE. UFC i Lean ramos initiate

1991
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 6: during my. BREAKDOWN i think he's the more talented. STRIKER

1992
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 6: i think he's the better on the, ground he's better, resume,

1993
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 6: Right But ramos has been caught a few too many

1994
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 6: times for, me, Right he's been caught out there all around.

1995
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 6: One he just put round. One So lingo By, ko

1996
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 6: who does have some, Power round one is going to

1997
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 6: be a glorious. Number that is a probablay. Rate there

1998
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 6: gonna sprinkle sprinkle on that for, Sure but official picks

1999
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 6: can be ramas.

2000
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 1: Abt you always bet.

2001
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 6: TALENT i think he's incredibly talented as long as they

2002
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 6: get caught.

2003
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: HERE i Think lingo is a little more one.

2004
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 6: Dimensional he's, tough he's, durable don't see a, Finish so

2005
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 6: give Me ramas by. Decision But i'm telling you sprinkle

2006
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 6: round One lingo by ko because, Listen ramos gets caught

2007
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 6: in my first.

2008
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 3: Round one of our listeners suggested that not only should

2009
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 3: you guys have the right to add units to a,

2010
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 3: play but you also should reserve the right to abstain

2011
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 3: from one fight every, week, right because there are certain

2012
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 3: fights even if you look at Like Valentina chefchenko Against Alexa,

2013
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 3: grosso if you don't want to lay minus six, hundred,

2014
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 3: right you should reserve the right to at least eliminate

2015
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 3: one fight because then he, said at year's, end you

2016
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 3: would have a more realistic, number, Right because, candidly both

2017
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 3: of you guys being minus when maybe in your individual

2018
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 3: account you're in the, black is a little bit screw, up,

2019
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 3: Right so just a thought, again you can share your

2020
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 3: thoughts At Anna Chlorian pott if you think these guys

2021
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 3: should be able to abstain from one pick each. Week But,

2022
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 3: kenfler that's not our, reality, right, now So Hikardo homos

2023
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 3: Or Austin.

2024
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Lingam i'm a little bit nervous When homos, fights just

2025
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: because he gets so. Aggressive it starts feeling himself and

2026
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 1: then he gets a little bit too. Reckless lingo's a

2027
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: guy that could potentially take advantage of. That definitely, Agree,

2028
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Brian SO i think it's an interesting. FIGHT i think

2029
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: there's some value there With, flingo who is certainly not

2030
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: going to be afraid to stand up With. Homos BUT

2031
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: i do Think, homos being the more dynamic, guy maybe

2032
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: some more, Tools he's going to be more willing to

2033
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: kind of go for certain, things while that can open

2034
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,919
Speaker 1: him up to certain attack. VECTORS i do Think homos

2035
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 1: is the better, guy the better. Fighter don't love the.

2036
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: Number let's go With homos, though all.

2037
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 3: Right comin evented Heavyweight Alexander romanov minus one. Fifty Alexander

2038
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 3: volkov is plus one. Thirty So romanov was kind of

2039
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 3: the cats me Out bry Before Sergey pavlovich, arrived but

2040
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 3: he dropped a majority To Marching tibora Last august temporarily

2041
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 3: halted his. Rise AS i, mentioned was sixteen and oh

2042
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 3: going in and on the other side been a while For.

2043
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 3: Volkov he'd been a real workhorse for a, while but

2044
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 3: the knockout Of Biggie boy was all the. Way Last,

2045
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 3: June volkov has headlined seven times for THE. Ufc he's

2046
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 3: got a three round of this. Weekend Brian, Petree who

2047
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 3: do you?

2048
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: Like do you just hear? THAT i.

2049
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 6: DON'T i don't know If, yeah that's the hype chain

2050
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 6: Of romanov flying off the fucking. TRACK i, mean this

2051
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 6: guy did not look good Against. Tibora Taybor or a

2052
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 6: very good, fighter but man cardio, problem stand up. Problem

2053
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 6: the only way to win is a donkey pond. Ki,

2054
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 6: yeah he's got a couple of submission against low level

2055
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 6: guys who are no longer in THE. Ufc that was

2056
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 6: more strength as opposed to. Technique, YEAH i, just if

2057
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 6: we're being, honest if you look at his record of

2058
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 6: who he led up to By, tibora not very. Impressive,

2059
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 6: okay coming outside THE, ufc how did a lot of

2060
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 6: hype physically look good Against, tibora but just fell sure

2061
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 6: that he got vocal off, Right this guy's just, oh

2062
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 6: he's just fucking fought on everybody, right thicked up out

2063
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 6: of some, frame you, know put a couple of seas

2064
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 6: on his.

2065
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 1: Name there fipped up a.

2066
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 6: Little, bit, thumping, thumping now knocking people, out knocked, out biggie, Boy,

2067
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 6: right takedowns are not as easy to come by as

2068
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 6: they used to.

2069
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: Be him being a plus number, HERE i think is

2070
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: his stealing.

2071
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 6: MONEY i think it's steeling when HE i think he'll

2072
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 6: get taken, down maybe in the first, round but he's

2073
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 6: going to get back. Up this guy Fought Curtis blaze

2074
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 6: and got up From Curtis blades multiple times on short.

2075
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 6: Notice he's going to get up From. Romanov romanov's gonna.

2076
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 6: TIRE i Like volkoff of maybe a LATE tko possibly

2077
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 6: be a. Decision romanov does seem to be, tough well plus.

2078
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 1: One, THIRTY i, mean give it to me all day, Long.

2079
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 3: HENFIL i just thought of, this AND i hope this

2080
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 3: doesn't sound like we're piling On Seattle. GONE i love

2081
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 3: his Brother, DAVID i really Like seattle. Himself BUT i

2082
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 3: remember When Alexander volkov Fought Curtis blades with A covid nineteen,

2083
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 3: backdrop and he was so upset that he wasn't able

2084
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 3: to get the requisite wrestling training partners for that training.

2085
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 3: Camp and you know that up set in it like

2086
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,640
Speaker 3: it felt, real like he just you, know he was

2087
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 3: and he tried like hell To brian's, point, right but

2088
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 3: he just he knew he didn't have the right training

2089
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 3: camp for that type of. Fight winnable fight for him

2090
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 3: this weekend Against Alexander. Romanov safest bet is probably buffer

2091
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 3: to Say, romanov but we need to pick on the

2092
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 3: comain event can for which way you?

2093
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 1: Go, gosh this is a tough one for me and

2094
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: And brian didn't make it any. Easier i'm leaning toward Towards.

2095
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: ROMANOV i do think that his last performance was you,

2096
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: know not, abysmo but not, fun not. GREAT i think

2097
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: THAT i hope that he looks at that as an

2098
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to really come with something different and kind of

2099
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: lights a fire under his ass to get a much

2100
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: better Performance. VOLKOV i think that is there's no question

2101
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: on the feet he's going to be a, Problem he's

2102
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: going to be, dangerous and we'll certainly have the advantage.

2103
01:38:55,400 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 1: There BUT i think If romanov is able to TIE,

2104
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:05,759
Speaker 1: i have his takedowns, properly have proper, control pace, himself,

2105
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 1: well he can win this. FIGHT i think, again it

2106
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: takes a long time to get your wrestling and grappling in.

2107
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Order is volkoff there? YET i don't, know, maybe But

2108
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: i'm still leaning Towards romanov until further. Notice BUT i

2109
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 1: MAYBE i changed that later in the week AS i

2110
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 1: see way into things like.

2111
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 3: That all, right and we will lead With Kenny florian

2112
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 3: on the main, Event and to bide you a little,

2113
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 3: TIME i will tell you.

2114
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: That rashad And, evans we're. Talking we're.

2115
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 3: Shot evans AND i were talking on set about the

2116
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 3: fact that you don't have any white hairs in your

2117
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 3: beard or your, hair and that you don't, diet so

2118
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 3: rare shot AND i were talking about that on. SET

2119
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 3: i just said that to get a smirk from, you

2120
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 3: bite you a little time because you're going to lead

2121
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 3: the main. Event pyodrian minus two Fifteen Marob Dwallis willie

2122
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 3: plus one eighty. Five So piodrian Goes ozho and two

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Speaker 3: last Year, kenny he loses to Al Jamain sterling And

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Speaker 3: Sugar shan O'Malley Some i'm suggesting it's a real bad

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Speaker 3: time to be Fighting. Pyodran that is May Rob Dwaller

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Speaker 3: swilly's reality this. Weekend we need to pick matchup a

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Speaker 3: band away contenders can flow lead the.

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Speaker 1: Dance who you? Got, yeah all the guys give me

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Speaker 1: a hard. Time they THINK i dye my my beard and.

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Speaker 1: Hair they have white hairs in my head every once

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Speaker 1: in a. While props to my dad for giving me

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Speaker 1: dark hair and not having any white. Yet but all,

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Speaker 1: right this is a great, fight, Man this is a

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01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: tough one to. PICK i think Pyotr yan is a

2135
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: guy who has a ton of. EXPERIENCE i think that

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01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: he's going to have a big striking advantage in this.

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01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: FIGHT i also think if someone gets a, finish it's

2138
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 1: most likely Pyotr. Yan very few guys can hit with

2139
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 1: the kind of power and accuracy That yan. Has there's

2140
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 1: there's a couple things that bother me about. This so

2141
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 1: first of, All yan doesn't have the best, footwork and

2142
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 1: if you're a guy like A marob DUALASH feeli who

2143
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: wants to time your take that those are the kind

2144
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: of strikers that you want to Go, again someone who

2145
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 1: has big time power but still is a little flat,

2146
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 1: FOOTED i think that will Help. MOROB i do Think, yan,

2147
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: though will have that speed, advantage so very interesting matchup

2148
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 1: in that. Regard he also has a ton of five round,

2149
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 1: experience big fight experience as. Well morob not there. Yet

2150
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 1: but you know WHEN i look at, That, okay, well

2151
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 1: how Is morob going to perform when it comes down to?

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01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 1: PRESSURE i think he's going to be just. Fine how

2153
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 1: is he going to deal with twenty five minutes in the?

2154
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: OCTAGON i think he's going to be just fine there as.

2155
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,799
Speaker 1: Well everyone talks about his conditioning literally being a, weapon

2156
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: AND i believe that to be the. Case can he

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01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: get a finish over Pyotr? Yon? PERHAPS i Think yan

2158
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: is more likely to get the, finish BUT i Like morob.

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01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 1: HERE i think he can be consistent at the very

2160
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,600
Speaker 1: least and getting to that clinch doing something similar that

2161
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: he did To Jose. Aldo hit those takedowns over time

2162
01:41:54,920 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: and control Pyodr yan or slow down Pyotdre. YAN i

2163
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Like marob. Here it's gonna be, Close it's gonna be very.

2164
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 1: Interesting but uh give Me Marob Dwallash peeli for the.

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01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Win can flow just sick of fade and longhost? Guys,

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01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 1: yeah what.

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01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 6: A, fight what a main, Event such a tough fight to.

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01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 6: PICK i cannot sit here and see a fighter as

2169
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 6: good As Peter ynh losing three in a.

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01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: ROW i just can't do.

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01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 6: It and THEN i look At, morob who's an absolute

2172
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 6: machine going out plus one eighty.

2173
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 1: Five it's, LIKE whoa what are we doing? Here you

2174
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: know his biggest one Was. Autos last time out he

2175
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: kind of stoughted a little.

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01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 6: Bit one of the Greatest marab performers that Is auto

2177
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 6: though great takedown the, fence dangerous on the. Feed he

2178
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 6: did what he had to do to, win which is, fine,

2179
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 6: RIGHT i thought he. Won no complaints. Here the common

2180
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 6: factor here Is Aujo aldro Fought yan. Twice he's In

2181
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 6: vegas Training, morob and so they both kind of know

2182
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 6: their game. Plans whatever raised that he's not been a

2183
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 6: ton of a part of this, camp all that much.

2184
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 6: WAS i think It's gonn Hinder mirob a little bit

2185
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 6: raise a genius. Mind and also he's already prepared FOR

2186
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 6: jn twice and they got two. WINS i know the

2187
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 6: ones illegal need, whatever but a solid win the last time.

2188
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 6: Out morob in Al, jo the differences are not the same.

2189
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 6: Fighter aljo holds you. Down he takes you down and

2190
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 6: holds you down if you try to get back. Up

2191
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 6: i'm gonna take your. Back marab will take you down

2192
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 6: fifteen times in one, round not give a, shit, Right

2193
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 6: he's not that dangerous threat to take you back to submit.

2194
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 6: Youa it's got some decent ground, pound but his cardio

2195
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 6: is the weapon or Dealing Peter petrian, here who is

2196
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 6: definitely not a guy who lacks. Cardio definitely a guy

2197
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 6: who doesn't lack, motivation, toughness all those, things and you

2198
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 6: have an. Advantage morob has the advantage with Al, Jo

2199
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 6: BUT i also Think jan has the advantage because he's

2200
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 6: been in there With. Aljo aljo is probably big Brother

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01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 6: morab multiple times throughout his, career maybe not. Now Al

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01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:42,600
Speaker 6: jo's also a very big one thirty Five MAROB i

2203
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 6: think is. Perfect one thirty, five maybe even a little

2204
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 6: tight on the smaller. SIDE A morob's a good number

2205
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 6: if you're. Rocking morab plus twenty five is a good.

2206
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 6: Number i'm stalling here Because i'm Picking Peter yan AND

2207
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 6: i don't want that knock out the door From Ray.

2208
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: Longo no one.

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Speaker 6: Tell Ray longo. THIS I i just can't see him

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Speaker 6: losing three in the. Road the number is high from,

2211
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 6: ME i wish the number was CLOSER i think it's

2212
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 6: gonna be a very close. Fight but in those, Clinches

2213
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 6: yahn is dangerous and he's strong, man he really. Is

2214
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 6: AND i can see an elbow, coming a knee up the,

2215
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 6: middle and and, uh, Yeah i'm root From. MORAM i

2216
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Speaker 6: think he's a great. Character and you, know obviously He's Team,

2217
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Speaker 6: longo that who we root. For but, Yeah i'm good

2218
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2224
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