Speaker 1: Lil's we need to talk is everything?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not ready to let go of Cardi just yet.
Speaker 1: Oh Gonnes sweat it because we have one more episode
Speaker 1: on the Bronx Queen.
Speaker 3: That is the kind of uplift I need today. My
Speaker 3: howt Girls, Dummer Walks aren't cutting it anymore.
Speaker 1: You know what, Joseph, I love that you're still in
Speaker 1: your glow up era like it's just so good on you.
Speaker 1: And on our final Cardi B episode, We've got all
Speaker 1: the juice on Cardi, a deep dive into her budding
Speaker 1: relationship with Joseph's homegirl, and a wind tour and another
Speaker 1: round of trivia Cardi B Edition.
Speaker 2: Your Bitch want to Party with Cardi Al.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Liliana Oosquez and I'm Joseph Carrio And
Speaker 1: this is Becoming an Icon, a weekly podcast where we
Speaker 1: give you the rundown on how today's most famous latinv
Speaker 1: stars have shaped pop culture.
Speaker 2: And given the world some extra level.
Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable.
Speaker 3: Because we are going in the only way we know how,
Speaker 3: with buenasunesas.
Speaker 1: And a lot of opinions as we relive their greatest
Speaker 1: achievements on our journey to find out what makes them
Speaker 1: so iconic. Cardi B is our third icon and we
Speaker 1: didn't want to end our coverage without the help of
Speaker 1: our good friend Moises Mendez. He's a writer for Time
Speaker 1: covering Internet culture, movies, books, TV, podcast and of course musica.
Speaker 3: But that's not all, lil We did some digging an
Speaker 3: unearthed that Mois says knows all the inside tea about
Speaker 3: our girl book, Cardi aka Cardi B.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Mois.
Speaker 4: Says, I got thank you so much for having me back.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1: We're very excited to have you, and.
Speaker 2: We are ready for all the tea.
Speaker 1: Now, what can you tell us without unleashing the Bacardi
Speaker 1: army on you? Is the tea good? Is it piping?
Speaker 1: Is it cold? Like, give me a time, mature.
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about as much of her fans as
Speaker 4: it is like my family, So I'm only going to
Speaker 4: tell you guys the amount that I can. Basically, my
Speaker 4: great grandmother had thirteen kids and she has a big
Speaker 4: house in back in my hometown.
Speaker 1: And your hometown is where in.
Speaker 4: Rothman County, New York, So it's like right across the
Speaker 4: Hudson from Westchester, And basically it's a big house.
Speaker 5: It's like a four family house.
Speaker 4: And when I was told was that when her family
Speaker 4: came from the recent public my great grandmother housed some
Speaker 4: of her family. So my godmother allegedly went to school
Speaker 4: with her aunt, so they know each other that way.
Speaker 4: And when my great grandmother passed away in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: she one of her aunts was at the funeral, Like
Speaker 4: it was very apparent that she was there. She was
Speaker 4: the only one in like a Chanel suit in sunnglasses.
Speaker 3: So yeah, wow, yeah, did your family come from the
Speaker 3: dr and go to Rockland County and then her family
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 4: It's like hard to explain because my great grandmother had
Speaker 4: thirteen kids, so this timeline is very long. So the
Speaker 4: older guys came here first, they bought this house and
Speaker 4: started moving people in, and my grandmother was one of
Speaker 4: those thirteen kids, brought my mom with her, and then
Speaker 4: my mom would go back to the yard met my dad,
Speaker 4: then they came over here. So it's like a whole
Speaker 4: lot of moving back and forth.
Speaker 3: So basically she's kind of like a vesina, Yeah exactly,
Speaker 3: well not a Asina.
Speaker 1: She like lived in your house? Did she live in
Speaker 1: your at my house?
Speaker 4: I wasn't there, Like she lived in my great grandmother's house.
Speaker 4: I was not even a thought. This was, like I
Speaker 4: want to say, in the eighties. Ex I don't know
Speaker 4: exactly what her family came here, but I do have
Speaker 4: some sort of familial connection with her.
Speaker 1: That's actually why you're the most perfect guest for this
Speaker 1: because you cover right all of this music. Also Internet
Speaker 1: culture so fine for our listeners. What internet culture means.
Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of new in the journalism space, but
Speaker 4: mainly I cover like influencers, social media, all of the
Speaker 4: debauchery that happens online.
Speaker 5: And basically Cardi B is the.
Speaker 4: Most popular influencer there ever was and is like point
Speaker 4: blank period because when I think of influencers and when
Speaker 4: people are like talked about as influencers, are always just
Speaker 4: like gonna be an influencer, Like say someone like Emma Chamberlain,
Speaker 4: like she went to the Macala on her own, but
Speaker 4: she's still an influencer. Someone like Kim Kardashian is technically
Speaker 4: an influencer too, but she's still seen as a reality star.
Speaker 4: And Cardi B was both of those things, but she
Speaker 4: managed to break those molds and become a respected.
Speaker 2: Rap iconic, become iconic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why we're talking about her, because she's icon.
Speaker 1: And I love that you bring that up because you know,
Speaker 1: we spent so much time in our previous episodes really
Speaker 1: talking about how she started. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people think of her as a rapper, but like,
Speaker 1: if you go way way back to like the Vine days,
Speaker 1: if you go back to the early Instagram days, and
Speaker 1: I'm talking before love and hip hop, we're talking og Carter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she used to have one hundred thousand followers
Speaker 1: and she thought she was a big deal then, right,
Speaker 1: She's always had this like star attitude. And you know,
Speaker 1: aside from just having this massive online presence, I mean,
Speaker 1: party goes, like you said, beyond that, she's a massive
Speaker 1: inspiration to so many young black and Latina females and
Speaker 1: males and all of us.
Speaker 5: And the gays and the gays. You can't forget the gays.
Speaker 1: Come on, hello, look at my beautiful co hosts. How
Speaker 1: can I forget the gaze? And like, my beautiful guest,
Speaker 1: are you kidding? But what we do is spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time off the air talking about what make
Speaker 1: someone an icon. And one of the words that we
Speaker 1: often use in these discussions is change maker. And I
Speaker 1: was doing a lot of thinking in regards to this
Speaker 1: particular word, and I wanted to kind of say that
Speaker 1: word to you because I think it's a perfect way
Speaker 1: to describe her. She's a change maker, at least to
Speaker 1: me in the music industry and for and I want you,
Speaker 1: Moses to kind of address how she's a change maker.
Speaker 1: Let's start with music, because that's what you're passionate about.
Speaker 1: So what we're passionate about is what our listeners love.
Speaker 1: So why do you consider her a music industry change maker?
Speaker 4: Well, when you think about like her transition from being
Speaker 4: a social media star to like releasing her own mixtapes.
Speaker 4: She did Gangster Bitch Music Volume one, which has some
Speaker 4: fantastic songs on it. I love that one song Forever,
Speaker 4: which is like basically a play on the meme where
Speaker 4: she was on love and hip hop. She said a
Speaker 4: bitch cuppy for me to go have you forever, Like
Speaker 4: that was just perfect. So she used like that comedy
Speaker 4: that she's known for, infused that in her music, and
Speaker 4: then used that later again in her second mixtape, gangs
Speaker 4: to this music Volume two and also like the rumors around,
Speaker 4: like it's so funny and it's so like the Bronx,
Speaker 4: Like that's just exactly what I would expect a woman
Speaker 4: from the Bronx names her mixtape. But she also just
Speaker 4: uses the rumors around her a relationship with Cardi with
Speaker 4: Offset in that music because he was featured on a
Speaker 4: song called Lick, and that sort of like set off
Speaker 4: these rumors even more and it caused all this conversation.
Speaker 4: So then there was a lot of rumors and allegations
Speaker 4: going around, like on her come up before her debut album,
Speaker 4: Invasion of Privacy came out, and one of the allegations
Speaker 4: was that Offset cheated on her because there was this
Speaker 4: weird unethical leak that happened and someone like hacked into
Speaker 4: his phone and basically people were saying, oh, Carti's just
Speaker 4: one of us, like she's also gotten cheated on whatever whatever,
Speaker 4: And she made this I can't even describe how amazing
Speaker 4: it is. Be careful. That song was like the best
Speaker 4: single she's ever released. And then she didn't directly say
Speaker 4: that it was about Offset, but every single in the song.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like she just she just didn't name him.
Speaker 4: She doesn't name him exactly, like she doesn't name him
Speaker 4: in the song, but it's just like I'm a bad ditch.
Speaker 5: I know who I am, so you better be careful
Speaker 5: before you lose me.
Speaker 4: And that in itself was just like the perfect way
Speaker 4: to like start her debut, rise to fame, like and
Speaker 4: use this on her album, which then she did Drip
Speaker 4: with Migos, she did Ring with Kailani. She did just
Speaker 4: so many great things in that album that is just
Speaker 4: like insane, and it won her Grammy.
Speaker 5: Cardi B won the.
Speaker 4: Best Rap Album at the Grandnees for the first time
Speaker 4: since Lauren Hill in nineteen ninety seven, which is just iconic.
Speaker 3: I'm curious about Nicki Minaj was around before.
Speaker 2: Her, and no I'm not comparing them or anything like that.
Speaker 3: How was her sound different from Niki enough to get
Speaker 3: a Grammy? Is it because Nicki Mina started as pop
Speaker 3: and Cardi B came out the gate being gangster Rap
Speaker 3: Volume one, Volume two? Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think she was like a breath of fresh air
Speaker 4: in the rap game, especially for the female rap game.
Speaker 4: Like she came out as like a hard hitting like
Speaker 4: get up ten that is like her dreams and nightmares,
Speaker 4: like she was just like I'm a bad bitch, like
Speaker 4: you knocked me nine times when I get up ten,
Speaker 4: like I think, and people were kind of just don't
Speaker 4: come for me vines. But people were a little tired
Speaker 4: of Nicki, you know, doing Starships, which she claims to hate.
Speaker 5: You know, that's not a good song. I hate that song.
Speaker 4: But there were some good songs on Pink Friday, Roman reloaded,
Speaker 4: But you know, I think people wanted something new and
Speaker 4: they wanted something harder. And that's when Carti came in,
Speaker 4: and she kind of of like open the door for
Speaker 4: a lot of these other female rappers that are now
Speaker 4: popular and she's worked with.
Speaker 1: And I love that you bring that up because I
Speaker 1: think that we can't talk about Cardi B and not
Speaker 1: discuss that exact thing that you just described, which is
Speaker 1: like ses you know what I'm saying. She was not
Speaker 1: sugarcoating her lyrics. She was not toning it down to
Speaker 1: feel more feminine or try to recruit a female rap audience.
Speaker 1: She was a rapper. There was no gender in front
Speaker 1: of that. She wasn't a female rapper. She was a rapper.
Speaker 1: And in addition to just being a rapper, one of
Speaker 1: the things that I love so much about her music
Speaker 1: is that she fully owned her sexuality and encouraged other
Speaker 1: women to take power in expressing their desires and their
Speaker 1: wants and their needs about sex. The rap game has
Speaker 1: been one sided for so long. It's just men talking
Speaker 1: about sex and in a way that doesn't necessarily feel
Speaker 1: good to me as a female listener. Carti b flipped
Speaker 1: that script and said no, no, no, no, no no, Like,
Speaker 1: we are the ones that own that power, and you
Speaker 1: see that in her lyrics, and to me, that's what
Speaker 1: makes her a change maker in the music industry. Like
Speaker 1: she to me, is one of the first and now
Speaker 1: like everybody does it, thank God, right, But it took
Speaker 1: her doing it because I think her roots as a stripper,
Speaker 1: she had a comfort with that sexuality that I think
Speaker 1: a lot of women maybe didn't have that because they
Speaker 1: didn't come up the way that Carti came up. And
Speaker 1: without Carti's come up, you don't have Carti's lyrics. We've
Speaker 1: touched on how Carti is a music industry change maker.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about how she's a Olguda change maker. How
Speaker 1: do you feel she plays into that, especially for after
Speaker 1: latinos and Latinos in general.
Speaker 4: I think before Carti, there wasn't anyone that was like
Speaker 4: loud and proud about being after Latina. We did have
Speaker 4: Amada La Nega talk about it, but someone like Cardi
Speaker 4: b She just like is just unabashed about who she
Speaker 4: is and where she comes from and what she raised
Speaker 4: her and what influenced her and all that. And she
Speaker 4: puts that into her music, which is why she did
Speaker 4: that collab with that bunny J Balvin, one of her
Speaker 4: biggest songs ever. But when it comes to someone like Carti,
Speaker 4: like talking about being after Latina, having a Dominican father,
Speaker 4: having a trainy mom, like, it's not something that we
Speaker 4: see a lot, and especially like as like a Dominican
Speaker 4: person myself, like, I am so happy to see someone
Speaker 4: like repping my country, you know, and I never really
Speaker 4: get to see this. So every time someone's Dominican and
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I got to ride hard for you.
Speaker 4: So I can imagine like a lot of other people
Speaker 4: are also seeing this and going, oh.
Speaker 5: Great, we have a Dominican, Yes, like let's go I totally.
Speaker 1: I think centuring her identity and that authenticity that comes
Speaker 1: from that centering has been so so powerful for all
Speaker 1: Latinos right, just to talk about what is happening with
Speaker 1: after Latini that in our culture. These are conversations that
Speaker 1: I don't know I was having in my family or
Speaker 1: if the conversations that I was having that is some
Speaker 1: racist shit that was happening around the table when I
Speaker 1: was growing up. But now I think our generation is
Speaker 1: having much bigger, more open conversations and necessary conversations to
Speaker 1: talk about Afro Latinidad. I'm Puerto Rican, like my dad
Speaker 1: like didn't talk about this stuff. So I think for me,
Speaker 1: like culturally, she has been pivotal in acceptance of what
Speaker 1: this means and how proud we should be of Afro Latinos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think she knows so in one way
Speaker 4: or another, helped move the conversation forward around the difference
Speaker 4: between Hispanic and LATINX, because some people don't like the
Speaker 4: term LATINX, which I'm just like, it's a gender inclusive term,
Speaker 4: so I don't understand why I don't like it. But
Speaker 4: I like to use LATINV because that translates better in
Speaker 4: Spanish and I kind of like get all of my
Speaker 4: colleagues to also use Latin. But you know, I think
Speaker 4: that's also fine, but you know, people always still want
Speaker 4: to call themselves Hispanic, and I'm like, Pave, if you're
Speaker 4: from a Latin country, you are not Histandic. It's just
Speaker 4: as simple as that you come from Latin America, you're lying.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: That is a whole nother episode of becoming an eye God.
Speaker 3: So, speaking of the Bronx, so far, we've done episodes
Speaker 3: on both j Loo and now Carti as icons.
Speaker 2: They have so many similarities.
Speaker 3: But j Loo back in the day, people were really
Speaker 3: hard on her for her sexuality, for her showing that ass,
Speaker 3: like basically people were chasing her down, and Carti literally
Speaker 3: comes out and she doesn't get any shit for it.
Speaker 3: Why do you think everyone is more accepting of her?
Speaker 3: What do you think the difference is?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 4: Oh well, I think in the early two thousands, people
Speaker 4: did not know how to talk about women.
Speaker 5: Just like in general, everyone kind of sucked.
Speaker 4: I think when you know, look at someone like Britney
Speaker 4: Spears and the way that she was treated that was
Speaker 4: just heartbreaking. I think also in general, I think also
Speaker 4: with Jennifer Lowe, because people just did not know what
Speaker 4: to say about women. So I think now we've sort
Speaker 4: of understood, like we should treat celebrities as people because
Speaker 4: they're just like us and they have feelings and they're
Speaker 4: not just ways for photographers to make money, for publishers
Speaker 4: to make money, like whatever it is. I think there
Speaker 4: is more of an acceptance of sexuality and sexuality in music,
Speaker 4: but not everyone's like excited about that, and we've seen
Speaker 4: that in different ways.
Speaker 3: I also feel like when you come out as a
Speaker 3: dancer like Jlo started, and they wear really tight clothes
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff, I don't think that they
Speaker 3: think of it as sexual. I think Cardi is definitely
Speaker 3: doing it more sexual as a different type of dancer
Speaker 3: than Jaylo was. But when Jayla was just giving us bikinis,
Speaker 3: we were just censored.
Speaker 1: Get out of here, pearls.
Speaker 2: With a piercing it's over, go to church.
Speaker 3: So crazy.
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting is even though Jlo went through
Speaker 1: so much more scrutiny coming up in the two thousands
Speaker 1: and has faced this her entire career, what's been amazing
Speaker 1: is to see her hold a handout for Carti. I mean,
Speaker 1: she asked her to be in Hustlers, right. They're both
Speaker 1: badass women, and I think that's so important because you know,
Speaker 1: for so many years, I feel like, specially with latinas,
Speaker 1: and I am one. So I'm going to say because
Speaker 1: I've seen it happen, you know, we come from scarcity.
Speaker 1: We're like, ooh, there can only be one like musician,
Speaker 1: there can only be one Latina actress. And Jaylo was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm making room for her as well, and like brought
Speaker 1: her up, asked her to be in the film together.
Speaker 1: And I think she's coming from abundance, not coming from
Speaker 1: this scarcity mindset hills our people. We've got to stop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I think there's two things with that,
Speaker 4: Like Jlo knows that Cardi b is it was a
Speaker 4: hot commodity at that moment, and because she has previous
Speaker 4: experience as a stripper, as an exotic dancer, you know,
Speaker 4: she was just like, there is an opportunity for us
Speaker 4: to not only show people like strippers are insanely athletic,
Speaker 4: the way that they use their bodies. Everybody's just like, oh,
Speaker 4: let me just you know, drop out of school and
Speaker 4: I'll become a stripper.
Speaker 5: I'm like, can you throw your head legs over your
Speaker 5: head like that? Because that's insane?
Speaker 4: Do not have the upper bodies for that. But you know,
Speaker 4: I think with that, she also knew that like Cardi,
Speaker 4: would also help make this film popular.
Speaker 5: Because cash cash Exactly.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of like these people who were
Speaker 4: popular in the early two thousands know that they need
Speaker 4: to have someone who's popular in this moment to help
Speaker 4: them continue on with their longevity throughout their career if
Speaker 4: they want to continue on.
Speaker 1: Yes, we call that relevancy.
Speaker 2: And who better than a latina exactly.
Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't want to say relevant because if
Speaker 4: fast sounded harsh, but I say longevity.
Speaker 1: Listen the times, it's we live in a different era.
Speaker 1: And I think, like Jlo's so smart, she's a b
Speaker 1: I mean, if we learned anything from six episodes of
Speaker 1: Becoming an Icon on Jayla, this woman is an enterprise.
Speaker 1: She is a global entrepreneur. She knows how to make money,
Speaker 1: she knows what her strengths her weaknesses are. She did
Speaker 1: a full swat analysis on that film, and she brought
Speaker 1: in Cardi b to fully attract like the young like
Speaker 1: social crowd, and good for her and good for both
Speaker 1: of them, was an amazing opportunity for both of them. Speaking
Speaker 1: of some headlines, we have seen a lot of CARTI recently,
Speaker 1: we just saw her at the met Gala. She's been
Speaker 1: kind of this like Met Gala staple. Are you surprised
Speaker 1: that she's on Anna's invite list or are you like, well,
Speaker 1: speaking of relevancy, ooh, Anna.
Speaker 4: Went to such an interesting person. I think she knows
Speaker 4: who Cardid is and she respects her. But the biggest
Speaker 4: thing that surprises me the most is that she hasn't
Speaker 4: put out a lot of content since her last album.
Speaker 4: Like we've gotten a couple of singles here and there,
Speaker 4: so I'm always just like I.
Speaker 1: Said, she put out content, she put out and way well.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly that.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, as I knew, she grew two babies
Speaker 4: and she is not raising children. I'm thinking musically that
Speaker 4: she is. She hasn't done a lot since then her
Speaker 4: giving birth, and for her to be constantly invited means
Speaker 4: that she is popular when people love her and people
Speaker 4: want to see her so and she always gets invited,
Speaker 4: either with a designer or like Bianna herself.
Speaker 1: So it's incredible. I mean, that's it is.
Speaker 5: It's wild to me and.
Speaker 1: The glow up yeah.
Speaker 5: Yes, oh my god. Look when she was with Jeremy
Speaker 5: Scott for Heavenly Bodies. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, speaking of Met Gala, Cardi has given us
Speaker 1: some show stopping moments on the steps, Moiss, what was
Speaker 1: your favorite Cardi b Met Gala?
Speaker 2: Look?
Speaker 5: Oh, I think it was the red feather. Look. That
Speaker 5: was like the burgundy Tom Brown. Yes, that's my favorite.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that.
Speaker 1: Was Tom Brown. And then Joseph, I have a feeling.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I want you to tell me you.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me analyze Joseph's brain calculating. He loves little dollars,
Speaker 1: he likes diamonds, he likes anything that sparkles. Honey, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go gilded age. Cardi in gold, Jeremy Scott.
Speaker 2: You know you just know me, and this is why
Speaker 2: we're together now. Hello, I love it.
Speaker 1: I could talk about Cardi fashion forever, but voices, I
Speaker 1: know we need to let you go. So before we
Speaker 1: let you go, we want to do a little fun
Speaker 1: game with you. You are so good at.
Speaker 5: This, yes, no, I was so bad last time.
Speaker 2: That's why we're saying you're good at it this time, so.
Speaker 5: I can redeem myself.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, exactly.
Speaker 2: We know.
Speaker 1: Carti is a masterful lyricist, especially in those rap songs.
Speaker 1: But what she's really known for is her one liners
Speaker 1: and her catchphrase. She has said some outrageous shit, moys,
Speaker 1: is we want to know how much of this outrageous shit?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: We are going to ask you if this is a
Speaker 1: real Cardi b phrase or if we just totally make
Speaker 1: this up? Okay?
Speaker 5: Are you ready ready as I'll ever be?
Speaker 1: Okay, I need Obama number right now now. Now, I
Speaker 1: know he's not a president, but I know he knows something.
Speaker 1: Is that real or is that made up?
Speaker 4: It sounds like something that she would say and in
Speaker 4: the way that she would say it, so I want
Speaker 4: to say that it is real.
Speaker 2: You got it?
Speaker 5: Okay? Good?
Speaker 1: I said that during like an Instagram live. I feel
Speaker 1: like when she goes on her when she goes on
Speaker 1: her political rants, Like I'm just like screen recording the
Speaker 1: whole things. I need to watch it back and slow
Speaker 1: it down to half speed later. Okay.
Speaker 4: Oh I love how fast she talk? Do I watch
Speaker 4: everything on two x speed?
Speaker 2: So all right?
Speaker 1: Next one is the savicha Yo tried to kill me?
Speaker 5: Hmmm. I want to say.
Speaker 1: Fake, yeah, Moses, you're killing this game today.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not as confident, but.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, Joseph, you want to read the next one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Ready?
Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't money make you warny?
Speaker 5: Yeah? That's definitely Cardi?
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I don't even know that, but I just
Speaker 3: feel like I said it because I'm like, she's definitely
Speaker 3: said that.
Speaker 1: She has not yet.
Speaker 5: God would say it?
Speaker 2: She will?
Speaker 5: You will?
Speaker 1: Okay, and then one more because I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: redeem yourself on this one.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: Uh, the nerves are so bad, Maybe I need to
Speaker 1: start smoking weed. Wait did Joseph say that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Sounds very Was that my line?
Speaker 1: Is that a cardiphrase or did we make it up?
Speaker 5: I think Cardi did say that.
Speaker 1: She did.
Speaker 5: Okay, we go one wrong this time You're back.
Speaker 1: You're back, baby, you are back. I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Now we all know that Carty's famous name comes from
Speaker 1: buck Hardy. She also has a sister named Hennessy. So
Speaker 1: alcohol names are a theme. We wanted to know what
Speaker 1: would be your alcohol name?
Speaker 5: Like a cocktail or like yeah.
Speaker 1: Ooh, like would you be like Moscow Moyses.
Speaker 3: Like s Liliana is tequila Lily and I'm Fireball Joe. Wait,
Speaker 3: I've coined myself fireball Joe because every time I've had
Speaker 3: like two or three vodksotas, I have shots of fireball
Speaker 3: and I don't know why. Oh my fireball Joe comes
Speaker 3: out and.
Speaker 4: I couldnot do fireball shots no point in my life.
Speaker 1: Okay, so give it to us. Moscow moyses. What are you?
Speaker 2: What is your name?
Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely love tequila, but I'll probably I
Speaker 4: want to give myself.
Speaker 1: A cow moyses.
Speaker 5: Yes, mes, cowboys es. Yeah, that's perfect, Mescal moyses. There
Speaker 5: you go, I'm mess cowboys ses.
Speaker 1: So on that note, mescal voices. What do you think
Speaker 1: the future holds for Cardi.
Speaker 4: B It depends on how she decides to go forward
Speaker 4: and the type of music that she decides to make,
Speaker 4: because I mean, we've seen that she can do some
Speaker 4: incredible things like a be Careful song or you know,
Speaker 4: a just a pop song like Up, which is an
Speaker 4: insane TikTok banger. So I would love for her to
Speaker 4: like take a second to like think about what she
Speaker 4: wants to say, make some beautiful piece of art and
Speaker 4: release it out into the world and then people are
Speaker 4: gonna be like, Wow, look at how talented, cool and
Speaker 4: just amazing Cardi b is and then from there, let's
Speaker 4: see how what she does after that.
Speaker 1: The world is her oyster, I mean her clam that's
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we've now done two icons in a row
Speaker 1: from the Bronx. Maybe we should head a little further south.
Speaker 2: No, not too far though.
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