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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. It's not Game Day EVE,

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Speaker 1: but it's getting close because Saturday is the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs for the NFL and your Houston Texans taking

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Speaker 1: on the LA Chargers three point thirty Saturday afternoon. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Mark VanderMeer, John Harris, John McClain joins us because it's

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Speaker 1: a Thursday and this is what we do even though

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Speaker 1: it's game week Friday. Don't worry, Johnny. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to go down that path, but let's go here. General

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Speaker 1: your thoughts, Texans Chargers. A lot of negativity in the

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Speaker 1: air with the national media. I don't like that, but

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Speaker 1: hey whatever, if you win the game, you get to

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Speaker 1: rub it in their face. What are you thinking heading

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Speaker 1: into this one?

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Speaker 2: I wrote a column at something of Houston Texans dot

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Speaker 2: com comparing this time to last year when the Texans

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Speaker 2: were two point underdogs to the Browns who had waylagged

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Speaker 2: them on Christmas Eves and everybody was talking about the

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Speaker 2: Browns and Red Eye quarterback Joe Flaco, defensive Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year Miles Garrett. They were going to advance into

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Speaker 2: the divisional round and Texans had, what I think under

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Speaker 2: the circumstances may have been the biggest, the most impressive

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Speaker 2: win in franchise history. Not only did CJ. Stroud play great,

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns, no interception, no sacks, and his rating was

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Speaker 2: one fifty seven, and they had two defensive touchdowns, you know,

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Speaker 2: Steven Nelson and Christian Eras, so they pounded the Browns

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Speaker 2: in every area. Now, I don't think that's going to

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Speaker 2: happen if the Texans played great, because the Texans have

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Speaker 2: not had played as well offensively as they played last season.

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Speaker 2: But if they somehow could protect Stroud like they protected

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Speaker 2: him last year against a fierce pass rush, I believe

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Speaker 2: he can have the same type of game and they

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Speaker 2: can upset the Chargers and leave a lot of people

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Speaker 2: around the country with not just one egg on the face,

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Speaker 2: but multiple eggs on their face.

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Speaker 3: Generally use the word upset, and I know the Chargers

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Speaker 3: are fair by three and then by those standards.

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Speaker 1: By that standard, it is an upset.

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Speaker 3: But if the Texans were to beat the Chargers at home,

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Speaker 3: how much would you consider an upset?

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Speaker 1: And to pull.

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Speaker 3: Off the upset if you will, what's the biggest key

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Speaker 3: is it? As you just said, the protection for CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud against this Chargers defense. How do you kind of

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Speaker 3: look at both those situations.

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Speaker 2: Well, John would be an upset because the Chargers playing

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Speaker 2: a lot better than the Texans are. You know, the

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Speaker 2: Texans were okay and beat the Titans, so what Titans

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Speaker 2: needed to lose? And you need them to play the

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Speaker 2: way they played back when they beat Buffalo, which was

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Speaker 2: their most impressive victory of this season. I think the

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Speaker 2: reason the Chargers are favored is twofold Jim Harbaugh and

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. Herver was only thrown three interceptions, and it's

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Speaker 2: being one of the best teams in the NFL at

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Speaker 2: picking the ball off. Saxon's also one of the best

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Speaker 2: getting pressure to Miko likes to rush or Herbert beats

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Speaker 2: the blitz. So you get pressure from Danil Hunter and

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Speaker 2: will Anderson Junior on the outside, and then guys like

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Speaker 2: Deniko Audrey and Tim Settle Junior and Mario Edwards on

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Speaker 2: the m side. Tuxans had more depth. Then there's Derrick Barnett,

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Speaker 2: more depth in their defensive line, and I can ever

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Speaker 2: remember they've got good linebackers, They've got two really good corners,

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Speaker 2: a safety who could go in Taylor Bullock just keeps

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Speaker 2: getting better and better, and so they still had a

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Speaker 2: problem with giving up too many touchdown passes, among the

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Speaker 2: most in the league. But I think they're going to

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Speaker 2: play good enough defense to win. The key is and

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Speaker 2: they protect Stroud long enough for him to find his receivers.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to see what happens with Deyontay Johnson and

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Speaker 2: car in the parking lot. And if you're gonna get beat,

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Speaker 2: make somebody else beat you. But it's all about the Lions.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers give up the fewest points. They're number one

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Speaker 2: in the red zone. Texan has been awful offensively in

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Speaker 2: the red zone. So it all starts up front, and

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Speaker 2: that's the key. If they can play the way they

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Speaker 2: win this game.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. Johnny and I were talking about

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Speaker 1: Damian Pierce and the performance he had against the Titans,

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Speaker 1: But what do you make of Damian Pierce having a

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Speaker 2: They did a lot of gap scheme running with him.

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Speaker 2: He at ninety two yard touchdown, of course, and in

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Speaker 2: which we saw him exhibit speed I didn't know he had.

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Speaker 2: And I'd like to see him get mixing involved more

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Speaker 2: in the passing game. On first down, Mixon has been

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Speaker 2: What's that attributed to the blocking? I'd like to see

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Speaker 2: think we know what the offensive line is going to

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Speaker 2: look like with Juice Scrubs back at right guard places

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Speaker 2: group that they have. And you know, the Chargers are

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Speaker 2: defensive line, and Texans do too, So I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a cliche, going to be war or

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Speaker 2: lost in the trenches.

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Speaker 1: Well, general, that's just what I was gonna ask you.

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Speaker 3: Juika Ryan said the other day, the winner of the

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Speaker 3: Chargers O line versus Texans D line, I'm paraphrasing, the

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Speaker 3: winner of that battle is going to be the winner

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Speaker 3: of the war in some sense. Do you believe that

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Speaker 3: that's the case, that that is the one ultimate matchup

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Speaker 3: in this Chargers O line featuring Joe alt Rashaun Slater

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Speaker 2: I think that is the line that Texans have the

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Speaker 2: best chance to make their mark in this game and

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Speaker 2: affect the game. I feel much more confident in the

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Speaker 2: do the Texans offensive line against the Chargers defensive line,

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Speaker 2: and they want to get pressure with four this is

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Speaker 2: the game to do it. Even though Herbert's a really

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Speaker 2: good runner, he's not shy about running. He does juke people,

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Speaker 2: you know, He's not like Lamar Jackson. He wants to

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Speaker 2: and he's almost six ' six and he runs really well,

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Speaker 2: and so I look, I'll be surprised if he doesn't

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Speaker 2: getting outside. This is a big game for JK.

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Speaker 2: He's going to have all of the Greene here, his

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Speaker 2: family members, his friends. You know, he went to Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: but he was a tremendous high school running back. Big

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Speaker 2: game for him. But the Texans defensive one has got

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Speaker 2: to reek havoc on Justin Herbert and flush him, make

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Speaker 2: wait to see Kamari Lass covering Lad McConkey like they

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Speaker 2: did in practice probably a million times. And then Quentin Johnston,

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Speaker 2: who's been woefully inconsistent for them, former number one pick

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Speaker 2: he watched highlights. He's dropped it passes all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: was it? Last week? He had twelve catches at thirteen

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Speaker 2: a first round pick. But the receivers don't scare me,

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Speaker 2: like just having Herbert standing tall in the pocket. You know,

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Speaker 2: the last time they were here, he had a great

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Speaker 2: game and the Texans still won because Rags Burke had

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Speaker 2: at the best game of this lifetime. But Harbaugh's a

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Speaker 2: big difference maker. Now he's done this year what Migo

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Speaker 2: And he's done it because they are solid and they

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Speaker 2: don't make many mistakes, and they're second in the league

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Speaker 2: and fewest turnovers. And that's one of the mos for

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Speaker 2: the Texas defense is forcing turnovers. So something has got to.

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Speaker 1: Give that AFC West looking good with the Chiefs, Chargers,

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Speaker 1: Broncos all in the postseason, Raiders just watching and just

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Speaker 1: looking for a head coach. What do you make of

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders are trying to get relevant again.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good job for number one because the owner,

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Speaker 2: Mark Davis. Mark Davis changes coaches like every two and

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Speaker 2: a half years. And I don't care if Brady is involved.

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Speaker 2: And if I'm Fox and I'm Brady's supposed to be

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Speaker 2: preparing for a game this weekend, I want to make

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Speaker 2: his coaching search. It's such a conflict of interest. And

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Speaker 2: they don't have a quarterback, so to me, New England

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Speaker 2: is the best job. And I don't know, Tennessee might

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Speaker 2: But the Raiders, boy, if you got to me have

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Speaker 2: in it. And Pete Carroll as he'll he's you know,

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Speaker 2: winning national championships in college, winning super bowls, should have

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Speaker 2: won two Super Bowls. He had final say on all

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Speaker 2: so it wouldn't surprise me if they don't our Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel will be coaching where John McLain were.

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Speaker 5: Coach.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could say, oh, he'll be in Jackson. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he'll be in Chicago, but everybody thinks he's going to

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Speaker 2: New England. And he's got his quarterback in place in

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Speaker 2: Drake May. They have almost one hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 2: cap room. They have a new facility that'll be open

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Speaker 2: I think in two thousand and twenty six offices right

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Speaker 2: there in their complex. He's got an owner who loves him,

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Speaker 2: and there's talk about him bringing.

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Speaker 4: Back Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: You know, we can't think of Josh McDaniels as a

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Speaker 2: two time failures a head coach. He did a good

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Speaker 2: job coaching Brady and he did a really good job

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Speaker 2: coaching mac Jones as a rookie for it before he

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Speaker 2: left and went to Denver, and mac Jones hadn't been

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Speaker 2: the same since. So if i'm Vrabel, that's I think

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty good setup. Go up there, you're beloved

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Speaker 2: by fans, media, you'll get but you got a terrible roster.

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Speaker 2: You'll be there at least five years. So I think

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Speaker 2: Brabel's going to the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: General Mike McCarthy. The Bears wanted to talk to him.

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Speaker 1: Dallas said no, he's not truly free until next week

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Speaker 1: and then this morning, Mike Greenberg on the Hot Take

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Speaker 1: ESPN show said, Hey, what about sark Jerry might want

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Speaker 1: to talk to sark after he's done with the college

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Speaker 1: football playoffs, and he's kind of holding McCarthy at bay

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Speaker 1: because he wants to hedge the bet. What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the Dallas situation.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's terrible that they wouldn't let McCarthy

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Speaker 2: talk to the Bears. And I'm still waiting for the

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Speaker 2: As far as Sarksian, I don't think Sarkesan's going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: He's got a war chance of over thirty million from nil.

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Speaker 2: He's already number one the SEC. He's the only coached

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Speaker 2: as you guys know, money's no object. Sounds to me

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Speaker 3: What do you think happens in Dallas with Mike McCarthy general?

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Speaker 2: How they Jerry Jones looking for a reason they keep McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: There was talk that they they he wanted him to

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Speaker 1: Hey, with the report that Belichick was talked to by

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Speaker 2: A guy who's covered that team in Oakland and Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas for the he's a writer, does a lot of radio.

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Speaker 2: Vinie Promson Yard he said that Brady called him what

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Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to hire it and Belichick's are told

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Speaker 1: All right, generals Luis playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course they good John, but I'm not predicting it.

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Speaker 2: I think Buffalo's gonna win. It's been a great run

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Speaker 2: They haven't scored more than seventeen points in those four games.

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Speaker 2: Their offense with Russell Wilson is awful. I'll be stunned

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Speaker 2: if he's the quarterback next year. I think the Ravens

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Speaker 2: are going to beat them up pretty bad, all right.

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Speaker 1: Never mind the lines, though, if you had to pick

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Speaker 2: Well, I'd picked the Broncos. I have no confidence in

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Speaker 2: a big disappointment. The defense. You know that that branch

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Speaker 2: well either. And if I was asked on a couple

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one. I think it was. We just talked

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Speaker 2: Well? I thought last year there's no way that young

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Speaker 2: So if they did it there, could they do it Philadelphia? Sure?

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Speaker 2: I don't think they will, but yes, they're certainly capable

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Speaker 2: But I think Philadelphia plane at home as one of

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Speaker 1: And this is more like a rhetorical question. How bad

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Speaker 1: But anyway, general, when do you think of that situation

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's worse for Cleveland? Remember, Mayfield want

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield get a row or leave bounds around like

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Speaker 2: a pinball, then seeing throw forty touchdown passes and win

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Speaker 2: Do they feel worse about that? Whether they feel worse

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Speaker 2: and everybody says he'll be gone after next season. Maybe

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Speaker 2: on injured reserve all year.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea for them, absolutely, you know,

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Speaker 1: It just feels some excuse for it and then move

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Speaker 1: on with their lives. It feels like it is setting.

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Speaker 3: Up for that that Deshaun doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Want to play for Cleveland. Dshawn never wanted to play

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Speaker 1: for Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: Never.

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Speaker 1: He can continue to post on Instagram and you know

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Speaker 1: in his more.

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Speaker 3: Glory twenty twenty five and my blessed Yaga and my Lamborghini,

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Speaker 3: you know, well glory baby.

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Speaker 5: I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't with that individual. I can't at

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you have an MVP vote, but

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 2: If it was a time, I couldn't make up my

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Speaker 2: mind between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, I go, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what did I see when I saw Josh Allen in person?

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Speaker 2: One of the worst games of his career. Texans just

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Speaker 2: put it on him like they need to put it

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Speaker 2: on Justin Herbert. What did I see in Lamar Jackson live?

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Speaker 2: I saw him obliterate the Texan So my vote would

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Speaker 2: be Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that'd be mine.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a good vite ex the same way

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Speaker 3: I mean, I saw Josh Allen god Night for thirty

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Speaker 1: We couldn't stop him. I saw. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: and then Jackson, I thought passed him. At the end,

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Speaker 1: Jackson got hot. Jackson held off all the doubters and

437
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: challengers and they won that division. And what he did

438
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Speaker 1: here on Christmas, my goodness. Okay, general, what do you

439
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Speaker 1: have going on in Houston Texans dot Com? Remind the listeners.

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Speaker 2: I have a column that's up there right now about

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Speaker 2: the Texans and now they were in this situation last

442
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: year against the Browns. Everybody picked the Browns and then

443
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: they played the most impressive game of their career. And

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Speaker 2: what happened and what they need to do now to

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Speaker 2: beat the Chargers?

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Speaker 1: All right? Thanks A lot, General appreciate it.

447
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Speaker 2: Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 1: As always, Playoffs Saturday three point thirty. That's John McClain

449
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: and coming up, it's a who's better more likely to happen?

450
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Speaker 1: A bunch of questions for John Harris, and I want

451
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Speaker 1: to weigh in on one of them as well. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to it next year on Texans Radio. Back to

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Speaker 1: it here on Texans Radio. Mark vandermir John Harris with you.

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Speaker 1: Great to have the General on and if you've missed

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Speaker 1: any part of this show, it will be in podcast

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Speaker 1: for soon enough. And we've got a bonus hour for

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Speaker 1: you tonight with no Thursday night football because the playoffs

458
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Speaker 1: are here with the Texans taking on the Chargers on

459
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Speaker 1: Saturday at three thirty. Plenty of talk about that, and

460
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Speaker 1: we'll get to more of that. But Johnny, let's talk

461
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: about some of these other games. But I want to

462
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: start with the guys who are They're not amateurs anymore,

463
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: they're a level below because everybody wants to hear your

464
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Speaker 1: take on these games. And you got one tonight, one

465
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Speaker 1: slated for tomorrow. Let's start with No. Tre Dame and

466
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: Penn State in the Orange Bowl, and what do you

467
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: think in here with listen. Coach Freeman was a Texan

468
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. I thought it was twenty ten,

469
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: but it was two thousand and nine. For about ten

470
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: minutes in November he was acquired. Yeah, and that was it.

471
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Speaker 1: But he's the head coach of Notre Dame and he's

472
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Speaker 1: going up against James Franklin. If Franklin wins this, I

473
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Speaker 1: guess this counts as a big game. It has to.

474
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Speaker 1: It's a national semifinal. Your thoughts on what's going to

475
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: happen tonight, Well, a couple of things.

476
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: The four team, four coaches that are in this, nobody

477
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: has won a national championship, So somebody's getting their first

478
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: national championship. In fact, that college football right now, with

479
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: Mac retiring, Dabbo and Nick retiring last year, you have

480
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 3: Dabbo and you have Kirby Smart.

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00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart yep, those two have national titles.

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Speaker 3: And I believe that's it in all of college I

483
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: believe that's I believe that's correct. Wow, I believe that's

484
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 3: correct because you start going through.

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Speaker 1: Larry Kocher is not coaching anywhere. Harball has come to

486
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. Mac Brown is not coaching anywhere. Yeah, Harbaugh

487
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: came to the NFL. Then Kirby won two in a row.

488
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Speaker 3: Prior to that, then it was uh, it was dabboing Saban,

489
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: going back.

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Speaker 1: And forth for a while. Jimbo's not coaching anywhere, and

491
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Speaker 1: yours Jaran is not coaching anywhere.

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Speaker 3: So urban Meyer is not coaching anywhere. Coaches, yeah, just

493
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: coaches that have won national championship. So it's Dabbo and

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Speaker 3: it's Kirby Smart. So there's gonna be a third guy

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Speaker 3: that joins that group. And I love what Marcus Freeman

496
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Speaker 3: has done with Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I've I think James Franklin has done a solid job

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Speaker 3: at Penn State. He's gotten good players, the players have

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Speaker 3: played well. I don't feel like I watched Penn State

501
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: and go, oh, Penn State out coach somebody. But I

502
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: watched that Sugar Bowl and I'm like, Marcus Freeman, his

503
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: staff out coach Georgia, Marcus Freeman, his staff out coach

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Speaker 3: this team today. I feel like Marcus Freeman has really

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00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: done a nice job at Notre Dame. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's been tremendous. The thing I worry about for Notre

507
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: Dame though, is they're banged up on defense in particular,

508
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 3: they got some key spots where they're hurting. So I'm

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00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: I think Penn State's gonna win this game because they've

510
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Speaker 3: got two really good running backs.

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Speaker 5: Notre Dames.

512
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love is banged up, but I'll tell you what,

513
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: They're gonna be three backs that are draft eligible in

514
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: this game. The fourth is gonna end up maybe being

515
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 3: better than all the three others. That's Gendarian Price. Notre Dame,

516
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: but Kate Tron Allen, Nicholas Singleton and Jeremiah Love. You

517
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: wanna bring one of those guys to Houston next year?

518
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Speaker 3: All right, let's go, let's go. They're I mean, they're

519
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 3: they're tremendous. So I think Penn State's gonna pull out

520
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: because I just think Penn State with Abdul Carter playing

521
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: is gonna be I think he's gonna be really good.

522
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: Then you got Texas Ohio State. I just think that

523
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Michigan loss and this happens. You have a loss when

524
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: you just don't think it should happen, and you go

525
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: back and go, well, what are we doing? What are

526
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: we doing offensively? Why are we not giving the ball

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Speaker 3: to number four, Jeremiah Smith. He's the best player in

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00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: the country. He's a true freshman.

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Speaker 5: Don't care.

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Speaker 3: He's the best player in the country. Give him the ball,

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Speaker 3: Throw the ball to him. Throw the ball to him,

532
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Speaker 3: and get your two backs involved like they were supposed

533
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: to be, and away you go. And you know, with

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00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: Ohio State, they had some upheaval on the offensive line

535
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: because they lost their left tackle. Josh Simmons is probably

536
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: gonna be a first rounder. They moved Episcopal High School's

537
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: owned Donovan Jackson from guard to tackle, and he's been

538
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: a stud. He's been fantastic, and he's really been the

539
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: reason why Ohio State's offense has been able to really

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00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: take off and go to a different level because protection

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Speaker 3: he's provided. Will Howard does enough, but he's getting Jeremiah

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00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 3: Smith the ball. Chip Kelly's calling really good plays. I

543
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: think they've played tremendous football. The thing with Texas. Texas

544
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: is a little like us in a sense. They've got

545
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: a lot of talent, but they were kind of doing

546
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: just enough to get by. They got to the playoff

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00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: and they kind of kept it up. They kind of

548
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: kept well, you know, just doing enough to get by.

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00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: But if Texas A A game shows up, they're gonna

550
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: go toe to toe with Ohio State. But it's a

551
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: matter of whether Texas a game shows up. Well, a

552
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: lot of it's on the quarterback and a lot of

553
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: it's on Quinnewards. And he finished, he finished the Fiesta

554
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: of the Peach Bowl really strong, did some great stuff

555
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: in that Peach Bowl. But can he play at that

556
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: level all the time, because that's what's gonna take to

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00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: beat Ohio State. Because AHAs State's gonna put up a

558
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: number on the board, there's no question. Even though Texas

559
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: defense is really really good, Ohio State's gonna put points

560
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: on the board. So can yours consistently put up threes

561
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: and sevens on every drive, no punters, no punning, making

562
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: it count on every single drive, because that's what's gonna take.

563
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that they can do that, but I

564
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: don't think Ohio State plays at the level they did

565
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: in the first two games. May'be been hearing it, you

566
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: know how it goes. They've been hearing how great they

567
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: are for two Look how great we are. We're the favorite.

568
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: Now we are the eight seed, and now we're the favorite.

569
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: They tend to come back down to earth a little bit,

570
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: and that might be exactly what Texas needs to keep

571
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 3: it in. I think that's gonna be a wonderful football game.

572
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: But I think Ohio State wins it.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Do you think playing at home helps of sorts?

574
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: They're not really at home, but they're in the home state.

575
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: I think it helps them. Cotton Bowlson's two thousand and three, Yeah,

576
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: but it's not Cotton I mean you can call it

577
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl, all right, played in that game, I

578
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: mean not that game. This is a national semifinal with

579
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: a bold name plastered. It's gonna help. I think it's

580
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna help. Telling me were you the you know, I'm sorry,

581
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: I get all the conversations blend more about like home sites.

582
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Let's go to more homesites. Coogler said it last night. Yeah,

583
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: the second ROUNDE should go to the home site.

584
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

585
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: Coogler was talking about how exciting the home sites are.

586
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 1: The environment anyway, the environment was incredible because it also

587
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: taxes your fan base to decide do I go second finals,

588
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: do I go quarters? Do I wait for the final?

589
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: What if we don't get there? All these decisions to

590
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: make things we've talked about forever, prior to the format

591
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: being set.

592
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: Up, I've said that for a while, I've felt like

593
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: the second round should have gone back to campus. I mean,

594
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: those teams with buys would have had home games. Penn

595
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: State's gotta go play up in the blue turf of Boise.

596
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Texas has to go to Tempe.

597
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: They got to deal with the temperature, which Texas is

598
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: probably going to but it's I just would have loved

599
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: it because I felt like the environment for the first round,

600
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: even though they are all blowouts and all the home

601
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: teams won, the environments were incredible and that would have

602
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: been to me a little bit more incentive to get

603
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: a first round by that you get a bye and

604
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: then you get to play at home. That I would

605
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: have liked, but didn't happen that way. Maybe it does

606
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: down the road. Maybe Greg Sankee, commissioner the SEC, kind

607
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: of throws his weight around and wants more games done

608
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: in the SEC.

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00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: But we'll see the balls.

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00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: I thought did a great job with it, but I

611
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: just would have liked to have seen the four teams

612
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: that gotta buy get a little something other than just

613
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: a bye week like, get a little something, get a

614
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: home game, just.

615
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Like in the NFL, you get that bye week.

616
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: Man, you get the bye week, so you're rested and

617
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: seemingly trying to get healthy, and then you play at home.

618
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: It's the reward for a regular season done extremely well.

619
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Speaker 1: You know, I could go for sixteen teams, but at

620
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: the same time, and you're still gonna have the debate

621
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen. They feel like they should have been in whatever,

622
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: this lower level conference team, look at who they play, whatever,

623
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: But you're still remember college football with the BCS. The

624
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: reason why we did it in the first place. We

625
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: wanted to get the two best teams playing each other. Now,

626
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: in a playoff, you can get bumped off as the

627
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: best team or the second best team or whatever. But

628
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: this does assure you of getting the best teams, like

629
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: the four best teams in the land into a playoff

630
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: of sorts, right, and they might get knocked off along

631
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: the way, But that's just life in football, Okay, NFL,

632
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: let's get back to the men who play for pay.

633
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: Well in college they do too, so it doesn't really work.

634
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: But Johnny, you get to decide which head coaching job

635
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: you would take. Bears, Jets, Pats, Jags, Saints, Dallas Raiders two.

636
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: Did I say the Raiders? I didn't Raiders. The Raiders

637
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: are in there too.

638
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: There's always a part of me that would have liked

639
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: the Raiders job, just everything that's going with it. But

640
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: I don't think Mark Davis knows what he wants. You know,

641
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: he talked today with Tom Telesco being fired. You know

642
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: they want I don't know if he didn't talk, but

643
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: people talking for them were saying, well, he wants to

644
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: have a lot of duty.

645
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: He and Brady want to have alignment. Yeah, we've heard

646
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: that word before. We had that. He had it with

647
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: Zigler and McDaniels.

648
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: They both came from New England, they knew each other,

649
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: they worked a lot with each other.

650
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: They had it and they gave it a year and

651
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: a half.

652
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so now they're going back to it because Brady.

653
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 5: Told him to.

654
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: Like, I don't, I don't know that Mark Davis knows

655
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: what he wants.

656
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: I would love to know what Brady is saying behind

657
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: closed doors. Yes, why didn't work with McDaniels, Tom, Because

658
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: I got a feeling you'd recommend him had he not

659
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: had the goal around here previously. Right, let's say McDaniels

660
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: is still in New England or whatever. Yeah, and doesn't

661
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 1: have that second shot to be a head coach. Yet

662
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: he'd probably hire him. I don't know if he would.

663
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he wouldn't, but I would think he might. And

664
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: Ziegler coming over from the Patriots too, okay, and maybe

665
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: he should have stayed and been allowed to hire a

666
00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: new head coach.

667
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 5: I don't know.

668
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he's great GM, and we'll never know because gms

669
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: so seldom get a second shot. Sometimes they do. Brian

670
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Gain interviewing with the Jets, good luck, Brian takes a while.

671
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: Rick Smith has not gotten his second shot. I think

672
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: Rick deserves a shot. You know, with all the guys

673
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: getting hired, you know Rick, you might want to take

674
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: a look at Rick. He's actually done some good things

675
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: and look at his first round Draft choice track record

676
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: and look, not everything went perfect, but there's enough there

677
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: there to give him an opportunity.

678
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

679
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: It's interesting with the gms in that way. It's like

680
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: you get one shot basically, and that's tough. Telesco got

681
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: a second shot. He was with the Chargers, did a

682
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: really good job with the charge for a while. In fact,

683
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 3: the names that you recognize with the Chargers were all,

684
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: Tom Telesco picks Yes, so he gets one year and

685
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: we're done, and he picked He had a great draft,

686
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: brock Powers being primary rookie, He's got the best tight

687
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: end season ever for a rookie. And that's not enough,

688
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: and he just gets caught in a political situation. Well, well,

689
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: you know, Tom Brady's kind of taken over as the

690
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: voice in Mark Davis's ear, and of course Mark Davis

691
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 3: is going to listen to Tom Brady. I mean, who

692
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: wouldn't listen to Tom Brady at that point. But the

693
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 3: whole others, you know, they want alignment and they don't

694
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 3: want a coach to come in. And then you know

695
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: the coach in the GM don't really know each other.

696
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: Hey look, Miko Ryans and Nick Sario didn't know each other, right,

697
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: and look at that. So I think if you have

698
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: the right to individuals, you can make anything work.

699
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 6: Right.

700
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: But they're good people, they're good workers. And one other

701
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: thing about Brady before you continue. Brady might know all

702
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: the answers.

703
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

704
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: But Brady being a great player, we all know that

705
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything exactly. It doesn't mean a thing as

706
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: long as being a great executive coach. Whatever doesn't mean

707
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: anything because you're not playing. Hey, Tom, if you're suiting

708
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: up and you're in the locker room and you're in

709
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: the huddle, we got a great shot here, right, But

710
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: we don't have that. Look at Magic, Larry and Michael, Right,

711
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Magic and Michael not so much working out as executives.

712
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: Larry was a good coach. Coach, now, he was a

713
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: good coach, and I think a good executive too. Not

714
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: championship winning, but good. So you just never know how

715
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna work out. It's like Jerry West.

716
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: Jerry West was a phenomenal executive and a great player

717
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: and a great player nobody. But then his running partner

718
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: Aligim Baylor was not a great executive Slippers.

719
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not a great executive. No, I mean he was.

720
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: He was with the Clippers when the Clippers were door mats.

721
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: And of course you know what he had to work

722
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: with with the Clippers owner Donald Sterling was Yeah, maybe

723
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: it gets a little bit of a situations are are

724
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 3: always different. Of those teams that I would want to coach,

725
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: I think I don't even know if there's a best job.

726
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I would want to take the Bears.

727
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 3: Or the Jets. And I know that sounds weird. It sounds,

728
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: but the Jets sounds weird. The Bears does not sound

729
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: that weird. I think with the Jets, first of all,

730
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: the defense, I don't want to say it's setting stone,

731
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: but the defense has a lot of good pieces and

732
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: I feel like I could work with that, bringing the

733
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: right quarterback with that and then you win in that area. Yeah,

734
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: that's huge, question, huge, and the expectations are so low

735
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 3: right now.

736
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: I think you're missing the obvious one here. I would

737
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: think you would pick Jacksonville.

738
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like the jackson But I'm but we

739
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: had this conversation, you, me and Dre about Trevor Lawrence. Now,

740
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: I just watched Trevor enough to know I don't know

741
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: that it was Doug Peterson's fault for Trevor not becoming

742
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: the quarterback that he should have been. Doug Peterson drew

743
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: ups a great plays in Week four. They should have

744
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: beaten US in Week four because Trevor should have had

745
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: three seven yard plus bombs for touchdowns and miss He

746
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: missed them. He missed morribly. So I'm saddled with that

747
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: for the next three years. I don't want that for

748
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: the next three years.

749
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: Now I do.

750
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: I do like Caleb, and I think Caleb would do

751
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: some good things and again winning and shit Icago, same

752
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: kind of thing.

753
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: What are the expectations you went in Chicago?

754
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, King, I mean the league loves shar Mike did go,

755
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: Walter Payton and Caleb Williams like all in one, you're

756
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: a legend.

757
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: But you know, Matt Naggy did it for a year.

758
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: And I remember that playoff game and it was there

759
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: was such excitement at twenty eighteen and then it was

760
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: point point and they lose to the Eagles, and it

761
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: was like oh, and then from that point forward it

762
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: was they never got it turned back around. But I

763
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: just remember that playoff game. There was such energy in

764
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: that crowd that Naggie had gotten him back to the

765
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: playoffs and look at us now and Trubisky and here

766
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: we go, and it's just it never it never material materialized.

767
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: But if you could be the coach that got that

768
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: going and got it back to like Lovey Smith's status,

769
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: I mean, they still love Lovey in Chicago.

770
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: They should. He went to a super Bowl and a

771
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: lot of successful seasons, That's right. He went to another

772
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: NFC championship game. Lost that one with Cutler and a

773
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: weird way. You got him Williams in a weird way

774
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: because the Panthers made the trade with the Bears get

775
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: the pick, that's right, and then they used the pick

776
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: and they had number one pick in the draft. Okay, good,

777
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: all right? Coming up, will go over the injury report,

778
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: Houston methodist minutes, still talking about hand injuries. There's a

779
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Texans player with a hand injury, but he's gonna go,

780
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: so that's good news. Let's have at it and more

781
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. All right, Texans, here's your unofficial

782
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: medical portion of the program featuring the injury report. And

783
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: it's game week Friday. Since you play Saturday, that means

784
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: the declarations are here. Game status has to be declared,

785
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: and let's do your Texans first out. Shaq Mason knee injury.

786
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 1: Was not expecting him to go. Has not practiced full

787
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: participation but questionable. Denico Autry knee injury questionable. Christian Harris

788
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: ankle injury. He's been full practice though, John Metschi with

789
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: a shoulder questionable. Intigan Coutoriano coming back with that calf

790
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: injury questionable as well, we'll see. Now at the Charger,

791
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: this gets interesting. Joshua Palmer foot injury. He is out,

792
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: so JK. Dobbins one of the two Ravens backs they

793
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: have on this roster, questionable with an ankle. He was

794
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: limited today. Gus Edwards the other ex Raven he was

795
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: full go with an ankle. No status for him, so

796
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna go. Eli Apple coming back with that hamstring questionable,

797
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: Seemi Fojoco a receiver questionable with an elbow, and Denzel

798
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: Paraman who played for the Texans last year with a groin.

799
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: He's questionable as well. Quentin Johnston interesting thigh end illness.

800
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: He was out yesterday, limited today he's listed as questionable.

801
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: I would think that means he plays, but this is

802
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: pure speculation on doctor Vandermere's park. No, I'm not a doctor.

803
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: Tackle Tray Pipkins good player, questionable with an oblique and

804
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Jasir Taylor dB rib doubtful to go. He was limited

805
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: in practice today. We'll see what that all means. How

806
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: about Houston Methodist minutes hand injuries? Well, I asked doctor

807
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: of course Jiffarni last week about some athletic injuries. What

808
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: about you gamers, carpal tunnel syndrome. Is this a thing,

809
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: he says, it is, for sure.

810
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: We saw a lot more carple tunnel sindus people. We're

811
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: doing much more keyboarding in the past. But with gaming

812
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: in particular, the thumb is usually the one to gets

813
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: the brunt of it. So there's a digital maladies category

814
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: we put all these, and really the thumb tendan itis

815
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: is the most common one for gaming and using your

816
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: phone in particular, even so other things can be involved too,

817
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: like when you're on your cell phone. People before they

818
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 4: started using the speakerphone a lot, they were put their

819
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: phone in the ear, so they held their elbow bent

820
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: the whole time, and that puts pressure on a nerve,

821
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: a funny bone nerve on the inside of the elbow.

822
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: So we had a lot of patients coming in with

823
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 4: that and an easy solution that has the hands free

824
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: units or speakerphones, but definitely with gaming and with using

825
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: the phone and your fingers on the phone, not just

826
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: carple tunnel because that does get accentuated with gaming, but

827
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: more importantly the finger tenan is and especially the thumb

828
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: tenan itis, And there's easy treatments for those. Scarret injections

829
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 4: or anti inflammatories and bracing and things like that, But

830
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 4: ultimately we're getting more and more injuries and things on

831
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 4: those lines with gaming as people are.

832
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 5: You know.

833
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: Funny, we're sitting around New Year's and my mom is

834
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: starting to use video games too now, which she has

835
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: never done her life. So everybody's doing.

836
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: It, that's funny. I always seem to get those squeeze

837
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: balls as a gift. It's among the choch keys you

838
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: get in certain situations. Are those helpful to prevent hand injuries?

839
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: To strengthen the fingers because they seem to relieve stress?

840
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. You tell me for sure.

841
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 4: They help condition the hand, not necessarily strengthen because they're

842
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: so soft, but they help keep the hands and fingers conditioned. Actually,

843
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 4: funny thing is like we give those out, We do

844
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: injections just for patients to use them afterwards to keep

845
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: them mobility going and not to you know, get stiff

846
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 4: and scarred in So those are good, very.

847
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: Good, actually excellent material. Doctor, thanks so much for joining us.

848
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 4: Today, my pleasure. Thanks for having me.

849
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: All right, there's doctor Cours Jeffarnia of Houston Methodist, the

850
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans, Houston Methodist Leading

851
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Medicine coming up. A Zizou Shire. We had him on

852
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: the show earlier this week, but you missed it. We're

853
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: gonna have that for you next plus more bonus time

854
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: with nd Kalou and Wade Smith. You've got to hear it.

855
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: It's fun stuff. We go off the reservation a bit,

856
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: stick around. It's Texans Radio. It's a bonus hour of

857
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: Texans Radio because there's no Thursday night football. So here

858
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: we go with the Houston Texans getting set to take

859
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: on the Chargers in the playoffs Saturday at three thirty. Now,

860
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: some of you don't listen to every show, every moment

861
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: of it, and I don't know why. Well, you have

862
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: lives and you have things to do, and I get it.

863
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: But that's why we like to feature some content that

864
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: you might not have gotten to. Like everyone's asking me,

865
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: where can I find that aziz Ou Shire interview that

866
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: you guys did, Well, you can find it right here

867
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: right now. It's also in podcast form, but I recommend

868
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: you just stick around right here because it's coming your way.

869
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: And Johnny and I visited with a Z's he came

870
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: back from the suspension against Tennessee, a team he played

871
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: for last year. He has a lot to say. This

872
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite players ever. I am not

873
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: overstating this. One of my favorite players ever. Is is he's

874
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: al Shire. There's something about being around this young man.

875
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: You need to experience it. And you're not getting to

876
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: get to be right in front of him, but you'll

877
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: get to hear him up close and personal. And let's

878
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: hear the visit John Harris and I with a z'z

879
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: al Shire. Is he's al Shire with us in studio?

880
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Is he? How's it going? Good to see him?

881
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 5: Good to see you guys? Man? I feel good, man.

882
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. How did a feel to get out

883
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: there against the Tennessee Titans and you know, get all

884
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: lathered up before the postseason and everything. How did it

885
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 1: feel to get your first action in a while?

886
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 6: Man?

887
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 5: It felt good?

888
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 7: Like It's so funny because it's like I feel like

889
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 7: if there was any game or any place, I guess

890
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 7: other than San Francisco, that was like the most comfortable

891
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 7: I've been, you know, just being in Tennessee all last year.

892
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 7: So I think even with the fans to the players,

893
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 7: I was playing and everything. It was, I guess, very

894
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 7: comfortable for our first game back, especially after everything that

895
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 7: happened the last time I was playing.

896
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 3: Okay, SE's let me ask you this. Just I'll ask

897
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: you this and we'll get to some other stuff. But

898
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: last year, the first time that the Titans wore the

899
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: Oilers jerseys, did you guys know, as Titans players, how

900
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: much that like made Houston people pretty upset? Did you

901
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: know about that at all when you were wearing them

902
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: last year?

903
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 7: So the funny thing like for me personally, no, I

904
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 7: didn't know, Like you got guys like obviously Jeffrey Simmons

905
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 7: who's been there for a while, Ryan Tannehill as well,

906
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 7: like those guys Derek Hery were telling me about it.

907
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 7: And then I just like when it's kind of coming

908
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 7: out that we're wearing them that week, and then started

909
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 7: to see like all the stuff that was going on

910
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 7: through social media, just the back and forth, and then

911
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 7: you know, you start to like ask the equipment guys

912
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 7: and people who've been around for years, like just like

913
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 7: the history of it all. He's just like, dang, Like,

914
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 7: I honestly could understand both sides of it, and yeah,

915
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 7: why people felt the way they do so strongly about it,

916
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 7: but at that point, definitely I knew like it meant

917
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 7: a lot more.

918
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we'll get to the playoffs. It's a

919
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: team game. But I have to ask you this during

920
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: your time away, what was it like? How do you

921
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: keep sharp and physically, mentally all of it? Because I

922
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: know that had to be very tough. And I was

923
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: there at the United Way event. You were at the

924
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: day it all came down, and now you're back and

925
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: it's great to see it, but that had to be

926
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: tough to get through.

927
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, sir, I mean it's crazy because, like like

928
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 7: I said, I mean, you guys know my story, everything

929
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 7: I've been through just in my life, and I think

930
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 7: I don't think people understood, you know. I don't think

931
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 7: the NFL even understood when they said what they said

932
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 7: in that letter, the ramifications that it did to me,

933
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 7: you know, and just my character of my just everything

934
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 7: my whole career, you know, because now it essentially turned

935
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 7: my entire career into you know, this letter that framed

936
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 7: it as me being this dirty player and all this

937
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 7: crazy stuff. And anybody who whether you watch football or not,

938
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 7: but if you're not paying attention to me, you know,

939
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 7: throughout my career, you just automatically just going with whatever

940
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 7: the NFL said, you know. So for me, it was

941
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 7: just it was really hard, man. It was hard because

942
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 7: I didn't I just didn't want to do anything. Like

943
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 7: I just couldn't believe like my name was being attached

944
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 7: to the things that it was attached to and it's not.

945
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 7: You know, it's one thing like you know, media is media.

946
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 7: Fans they love you one day, that the next day.

947
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 7: And I think just coming from like your peers essentially

948
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 7: working with you know, the league, we're under the same shield,

949
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 7: we're under the same umbrella. So I think for me

950
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 7: that part just hurt because it just obviously was not

951
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 7: true at all. And you know, I think the part

952
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 7: where I was finally able to start to get back

953
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 7: to myself and getting back on football and things is

954
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 7: after having you know, the meeting that I had with

955
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 7: them and you know, them acknowledging that the things that

956
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 7: they said were wrong, and you know, it was supposed

957
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 7: to be a whole bunch of stuff that they were

958
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 7: supposed to do that you know didn't happen. But it

959
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 7: is what it is, just happy to be back playing

960
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 7: football and back doing what I love. But it was hard,

961
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 7: like nonetheless, like everything I've been through in my entire life,

962
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 7: that is right up there with with with the hardest

963
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 7: things I've experienced.

964
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: Let's seez I'm want to just follow one thing and

965
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: then we'll move on from because I know it's probably

966
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: not something you really want to talk about, but it's

967
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: a tough moment. And we've talked to you about the

968
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: things that you've gone through in your life and people

969
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: that you've relied upon. I remember talking to you about

970
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: San Francisco, like earlier in your career. You sat in

971
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: the car with the Miko and y'all, just y'all just

972
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: hammered it out, just talk for hours. Who or what

973
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: was the biggest thing to get you through that time period.

974
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: Because when you go through adversity and you talk about

975
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: this being a brotherhood here in the building, were.

976
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: There people in the building that you talk to? Were

977
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: there people outside the building?

978
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: Your family who's probably most instrumental in kind of keeping

979
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: you going through that period?

980
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 5: For you? I think it was a mixture of everyone.

981
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 7: I mean, from family, friends, teammates, former teammates, coaches, coaches

982
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 7: I used to play for. I mean random people that

983
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 7: I did something for, like back in high school. I

984
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 7: have the same cell phone number since I was in

985
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 7: high school, so like this, I first ever got a

986
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 7: cell phone. So I mean I got messages from people,

987
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 7: whether it be a social media or through my phone number,

988
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 7: about them reminding me of something I might have did

989
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 7: for them years and years and years ago that I

990
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 7: honestly did just to help a person and not you know,

991
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 7: not expecting or wanting anything in return. And you know,

992
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 7: when I wrote the letter that I wrote when I

993
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 7: came back last week, the part that you know, when

994
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 7: I was just sitting there thinking and the only thing

995
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 7: that I felt to I guess make the connection of

996
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 7: how I felt in that moment of you know, just

997
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 7: get getting this positive reinforcement from all these different people

998
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 7: and people that were in my past from years and

999
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 7: years ago. Was just the analogy that I had said about,

1000
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 7: you know, the seed of goodness that you plant in

1001
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 7: other people's lives, you know, it very well can be

1002
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: the shade of you know, compassion that you get later

1003
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 7: on when you're at your lowest.

1004
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 5: And that's what I felt.

1005
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 7: I just felt like it was like this shield of

1006
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 7: you know, just all the goodness from people, you know,

1007
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 7: the impact that I've made on people's lives and the

1008
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 7: smallest way blocking out the negativity that I was just

1009
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 7: being rained down on. So yeah, it was it was

1010
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 7: a little bit of everybody man to be truthful.

1011
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 5: It's awesome.

1012
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: How if it all does it affect your play? Do

1013
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: you feel sort of liberated being out there on the

1014
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: field again, like this is my happy place, for lack

1015
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: of a better way of putting it.

1016
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's crazy because it's like it was. It was weird, man,

1017
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 7: It's like one hundred percent. I think that's why. Also

1018
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 7: is a crazy feeling when everything happened, because you know,

1019
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 7: the football field was where the reason why I loved

1020
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 7: football so much and why I love the game so

1021
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 7: much is because it was the one place for me,

1022
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 7: especially growing up homeless and the things I experienced where

1023
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 7: you know, you don't have clean clothes all the time,

1024
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 7: you don't have the nicest stuff, you know, and just

1025
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 7: being judged prematurely before I ever got to say a word,

1026
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 7: you know, in the real world, that's the reality. But

1027
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 7: the thing about football that I love, and you know

1028
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 7: sports a lot, but football at its finess is you're

1029
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 7: judged by what you put on tape, nothing else. It's

1030
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 7: all about what you do. And for me, I think

1031
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 7: that is just like the thing that drew me to

1032
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 7: the game the most, because I knew all the hard

1033
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 7: work that I put in and then the way I played,

1034
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 7: like that's what people judge me off of. And then

1035
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 7: once they saw, oh, this guy is a great football player,

1036
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 7: and then they talk to you, now they's oh, he's

1037
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 7: actually a good dude too, like so I think it

1038
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 7: was just a liberating feeling in that way because it

1039
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 7: was like, Wow, this is a one time where people

1040
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 7: are looking at me for what I'm doing, not.

1041
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 5: How I look.

1042
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 7: Nobody looked at me and said, oh, that elbow breaks me.

1043
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 7: Words is kind of cool. I mean, yeah, it's kind

1044
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 7: of cool. Cool, But you want to see what I'm

1045
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 7: gonna do on Sunday, you know, on game day, and

1046
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 7: I just think like it was my safe haven, and

1047
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 7: it is my safe haven. But in that moment where

1048
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 7: now I'm being like rido culed about it, it definitely

1049
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 7: turned the other way, you know. And so I think

1050
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 7: getting back in to the game last week was like,

1051
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 7: you know, kind of dipping your tow back in the

1052
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 7: water and just being like, wow, Okay, I'm good, Like

1053
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 7: I'm back, like it is what it is. Everything happened,

1054
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 7: but like I'm still here, I'm still standing, and you know,

1055
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 7: I definitely think like moving forward.

1056
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 5: You know, I'm in a way better space.

1057
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely, playoffs Saturday, first time back in the playoffs since

1058
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: for you twenty two game in Philly. That was the

1059
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: last one, and I know that one left a bad

1060
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: taste in y'all's mouth because brockets knocked out of that

1061
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: game and gets Philly, and now you're going back and forth.

1062
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 3: Josh gets hurt in that game and then you guys

1063
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: are your brock is basically handed off, and I know

1064
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 3: that'd be a tough way to be in the playoffs,

1065
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: and your last playoff memory is that, But now you've

1066
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: got a new opportunity of memories here. How are you

1067
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 3: feeling about Saturday mentally physically?

1068
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: How do you feel getting ready? And how do you

1069
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: feel his defense is ready for almost in San Diego,

1070
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Los Angeles.

1071
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 5: There we go on Saturday. Man, you're good.

1072
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: I got fined.

1073
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 5: I got fined. No, honestly, I'm super excited.

1074
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 7: I Mean the thing about playoff football, it's like, you know,

1075
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 7: all season long. You know you and you truly do

1076
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 7: believe it, and I think you know some of the

1077
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 7: best teams you have to be. It's a week to

1078
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 7: week league, and that's that's the NFL at its finest,

1079
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 7: if you look so far ahead. I mean, you know

1080
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 7: all these different teams I played on, you know, different

1081
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 7: years I played, even in San Francisco. We knew the

1082
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 7: type of team we had, We knew how good we

1083
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 7: could be, right, but we knew it was a week

1084
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 7: to week thing, and you gotta take it one week

1085
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 7: at a time. And so I think, now it's here,

1086
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 7: like the playoffs are here, and it literally is, you know,

1087
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 7: win or go home.

1088
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 5: It's a week.

1089
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 7: It's a week like you don't know who the hell

1090
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 7: you might play next week, right, and it doesn't even matter.

1091
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 7: So I think like that type of pressure, but that

1092
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 7: type of opportunity, Like you can look at it two

1093
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 7: different ways, and I think I just love knowing that

1094
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 7: over half the league has to go home. You know,

1095
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 7: you talk about accolades and awards and all this stuff

1096
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 7: that you know, you feel everybody always has their own

1097
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 7: feelings and opinions. And you talk about Daniel Hunter not

1098
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 7: being in the Pro Bowl, or you know, same thing

1099
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 7: with Will Anderson. It's like we all have our own

1100
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 7: egos and our own feelings and now the entire world, well,

1101
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 7: the first game, you know, the playoffs, the entire world

1102
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 7: has to watch a one football game and that's the

1103
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 7: Texans versus the Chargers. So I think it just you

1104
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 7: can be exactly whoever you think you are and want

1105
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 7: to be on Saturday at three thirty and show the

1106
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 7: entire world exactly who we are.

1107
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 5: And obviously, you know, just see it.

1108
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 7: You know, even some of the comments that people are

1109
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 7: making about you know, the game being a bye week

1110
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 7: for the Chargers, it's the National Football League. I've never

1111
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 7: ever played against an opponent period, you know, whether they

1112
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 7: had a good record or bad record, and thought it

1113
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 7: was just gonna be a cakewalk. But you know, I

1114
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 7: think for us as a team, we're just excited to

1115
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 7: be able to go out there and compete and show

1116
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 7: the type of style and play that we're about.

1117
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: So they have justin Herbert obviously, but maybe not specific

1118
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: just to them, but being a linebacker disease, how tough

1119
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: is it to defend against good play action when yeah,

1120
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: they fake the handoff and all of a sudden, Oh

1121
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw. How do you read that and not

1122
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: overreact if you will.

1123
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 7: It's so funny because like when you're when you're watching

1124
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 7: film and you see a cutup of like play action plays,

1125
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 7: for example, you're watching plays where you see all the

1126
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 7: run plays and you're not watching it like a game.

1127
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 7: When you see all the play action plays, you're like, dang,

1128
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 7: why is this guy running down It's so easy to see.

1129
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 7: You see all the run plays and you're like, why

1130
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 7: is he so slow? Like it just go trigger and

1131
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 7: you understand that the game within the game is there's

1132
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 7: a combination of downhill runs.

1133
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 5: That they like to do.

1134
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 7: I mean forty four uh, you know one of the

1135
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 7: fullbacks that they have, like this guy's alignment, you know

1136
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.

1137
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 5: But then running the ball and he's leading the way.

1138
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 7: And then you see one play on a cut up

1139
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 7: with play action where he's looks like he's running downhill

1140
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 7: but it's it's all play action. He's like, oh, how

1141
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 7: do you not see the high hat? Like yeah, So

1142
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 7: you understand that that is.

1143
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 5: Going to be the chess match within the game.

1144
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 7: You know that's a part of you know, the challenge

1145
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 7: that we're facing this week with a team like that,

1146
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 7: and you know, I think the biggest thing is your keys,

1147
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 7: your keys and your fundamentals and just trusting what we've

1148
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 7: what we've done, and what we've practiced and preached all

1149
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 7: year long. You know, for me five of the six

1150
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 7: years I've been in the NFL as far as just

1151
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 7: scheme wise, what my technique is. So I think, you know,

1152
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 7: that's been the biggest thing, even me talking to the

1153
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 7: guys like just your keys, your keys, you gotta be

1154
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 7: true on and when you see it go. But yeah,

1155
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 7: I do think that it can definitely cause that, like

1156
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 7: you know, slight hesitation or you know, just throughout the game,

1157
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 7: it can cause you to slow down a little bit.

1158
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 3: Seze, we get to meet going here, and I always

1159
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: love to talk to him about the coach com system

1160
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: in your helmet, but I always get it from his perspective,

1161
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: and he's always the one talking right. You can't talk back,

1162
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 3: you just listen. So what's it like having him in

1163
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 3: your ear throughout the game? Does he like to give

1164
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: you the call and then talk? Does he give you

1165
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: the call and then stop when you get the fifteen

1166
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: seconds and all shuts off and you can like focus

1167
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: and play. What's that like kind of having him in

1168
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 3: your ear and you can't really talk back to him

1169
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: till you get to the sideline.

1170
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 7: What was it like having your mom or your dad

1171
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 7: in your ear when you were a kid?

1172
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: My dad was on my coaches, So I can tell

1173
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: you some stories.

1174
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 5: There you go.

1175
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 7: So it's so funny because I mean it's a relationship

1176
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 7: that's already different, you know, the average head coach player relationship.

1177
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 5: But I mean.

1178
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 7: He's He's been in my ear for as long as

1179
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 7: I've basically been in the NFL, you know, so I'm

1180
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 7: just used to it now. It's so funny, like, you know,

1181
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 7: even when the other guys like Henry had to use

1182
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 7: the mic when I was gone, and you know, he's

1183
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 7: just like, oh my god, Like it could be overwhelming percent,

1184
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 7: but it's so funny because I learned how to take

1185
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 7: some of the information that he's saying because he he

1186
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 7: I mean, he knows all of it. Like he can

1187
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 7: probably break down every single play out of every single

1188
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 7: formation and every single tendency. I mean, like that's why

1189
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 7: he's in a position he's in, that's why he's so

1190
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 7: well respected and everything. But also at the same time,

1191
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 7: and sometimes he said stuff that you're like, all right,

1192
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 7: I can't. I'm not gonna tell the corner, Hey you

1193
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 7: got man coverage. He knows this man coverage. I'm not going, hey,

1194
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 7: look at your man like he's just he's This is

1195
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 7: the way I tell you know, all the guys, it's

1196
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 7: like your coaches are like parents that are teaching you

1197
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 7: how to drive, and you don't have insurance and you're

1198
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 7: the one in the driver's seat.

1199
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: They can't drive the car.

1200
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 7: So like, if you crash this car, this is my

1201
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 7: insurance is like my name is on this car. I

1202
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 7: got to handle all the bs behind it, but I

1203
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 7: got to teach you to I can't drive the car

1204
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 7: for you.

1205
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 5: So I think that's the funniest thing.

1206
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 7: But that's the best way to explain it to where

1207
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 7: you could be like, oh, I understand, like you cannot Demiko,

1208
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 7: he wants to play, he could, he'll play. That's why

1209
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 7: you coach because you can't play the game anymore. And

1210
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 7: that's why you coach at the high level because you're

1211
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 7: passionate about the game, but.

1212
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 5: You can't play it.

1213
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 7: And I think that's that's the thing where for me,

1214
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 7: I stopped taking it so personal because I understood, like, man,

1215
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 7: he's he's he's calling it like he's playing it, and

1216
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 7: I got to just try to, you know, bridge that

1217
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 7: gap from the players to him and just kind of

1218
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 7: speak through him on the field.

1219
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: Said yeah, because he's do you feel like you're like

1220
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: Demico in a way and not just as a player,

1221
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: and you don't know what you're gonna be like when

1222
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: you're his age necessarily, but when we first talked with

1223
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: you TV production meeting, we thought, this is this guy's

1224
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: like Demiko. I said that.

1225
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 3: I asked him that, I said, you look, you look

1226
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: in the mirror, do you see Demiko?

1227
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 5: And because you do.

1228
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: You identify with him in that way at all? Maybe not?

1229
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: But you tell us no.

1230
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 7: It's so funny because like I see myself as me,

1231
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 7: like I I obviously of my own man, sure, but

1232
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 7: one hundred percent I would be lying. I think whether

1233
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 7: it was me or Drake Greenlaw or Fred Warner, like

1234
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 7: and we all say in interviews whenever it does come up,

1235
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 7: like there really is no US without Demico Ryans, you know,

1236
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 7: and Johnny Holland. But you know, Demiko Ryans was literally

1237
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 7: like one hundred percent his his DNA carried through all

1238
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 7: of us as far as just the way that he

1239
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 7: prepared us, how he trained us, and just to urgency

1240
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 7: that he kind of instilled in us, you know, of

1241
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 7: how to lead and how to you know, be a

1242
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 7: pro you know, essentially like one hundred percent, like I've

1243
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 7: had to lead most of my life, you know, just

1244
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 7: all the things I experienced and endured, but without a doubt,

1245
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff that I'm able to balance all

1246
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 7: the craziness, like even talking about him yelling in the

1247
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 7: mic and being able to, you know, relay everything in

1248
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 7: a peaceful manner to the guys on the field, but

1249
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 7: at the same time, getting getting all of these things

1250
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 7: done at once. One hundred percent is from him. And

1251
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 7: then obviously when I learn and hear more and more

1252
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 7: about how he was and like, dang, I can't even

1253
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 7: help myself, Like damn, I guess me and Mark kind

1254
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 7: of the same. So at first, like I mean, it's

1255
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 7: so funny because even Fred Warner and Dre to be

1256
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 7: like that's your dad, that's your dad, like that shut up,

1257
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 7: Like he's a mess with me all the time when

1258
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 7: we were back in San Francisco, but not the guy's

1259
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 7: literally said the same thing to me now, so I

1260
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 7: definitely have to acknowledge that me and him have a

1261
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 7: lot of similarities for sure.

1262
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: So it's these for people that don't know. And I

1263
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 3: don't want to bring up something bad, but I'm going

1264
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: somewhere with this. You're a draft to come on FAU.

1265
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 5: It was your joke.

1266
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: I remember senior you year, senior year at FAU, and

1267
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, two and five are really good, five

1268
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 3: being motor being number two, you didn't get drafted.

1269
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: And we talked about this in the production meetings as well.

1270
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: Do you still play with that chip on your shoulder

1271
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: or still even though you know you're Freegent signing in

1272
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: Tennessee Freegent signing here?

1273
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: Do you still play with that chip on your.

1274
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 3: Shoulder that you had when you came into the league

1275
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: to show, Hey, I can I can't belong, I can't

1276
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 3: be here, I can't play.

1277
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: Do you still play with that chip on your shoulder?

1278
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 7: Because I think for me, it's just the constant reminder,

1279
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 7: you know, whether it's being undrafted or whether it's okay,

1280
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 7: you signed this deal, but oh man, they paid him

1281
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 7: to its Dimiko. He paid his friend like this, his business,

1282
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 7: like this is real business. You go watch tape like

1283
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 7: you know. I think for me, you know, my name

1284
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 7: isn't the hype name that you love to hear. That's like,

1285
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 7: you know, it's it's not the first round behind it,

1286
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 7: there's nothing behind it. And I think when you look

1287
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 7: at somebody like me that's made it as far as

1288
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 7: I have, you have to basically go and look back

1289
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 7: at those notes that you wrote back from six years

1290
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 7: ago and say, hey, I was wrong. So I think

1291
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Speaker 7: sometimes when you a lot of people don't like to

1292
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 7: admit that they were wrong. So nobody's going to hype

1293
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 7: up the guy that they didn't believe it in the

1294
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 7: first place. But you're always looking for a reason to

1295
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 7: hype up somebody that you thought was supposed to be something.

1296
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 7: So I think for me understanding that political aspect of

1297
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 7: how how the league can be because it's so media

1298
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 7: pushed one way or another based on how somebody feels

1299
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 7: about a player. And you definitely you know, Robert Salad

1300
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 7: said this when I was back in San Francisco his

1301
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 7: last year there, twenty twenty, and he said, like, you

1302
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 7: hold the pen, don't let nobody else write your story.

1303
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 7: And I think for me just that Yeah, has always

1304
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 7: stuck with me and one hundred percent I played with

1305
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 7: a mindset with an attitude, because yeah, I'm always trying

1306
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 7: to make sure, you know, like I tell the guys

1307
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 7: like Linebacker Group, like man, make sure when we leave

1308
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 7: here they know exactly who you are and what we're about,

1309
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 7: because yeah, like every time you step on that field,

1310
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 7: it's your chance to show whoever wherever, if they watching

1311
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 7: or if they're playing, Like, hey, I don't know who zero.

1312
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 7: I don't know how to say his last name.

1313
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1314
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 7: You know, people used to just even so funny with

1315
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 7: de White got here. You know, I knew him already,

1316
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 7: but he was just like, man, still, I still couldn't

1317
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 7: pronounce your name, right, I just knew you had the

1318
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 7: elbow breaks. I'm like, you know what I'm saying. So

1319
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 7: it's like, whatever, you recognize me. One thing about it.

1320
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 7: When you see that tape, it's gonna speak for yourself.

1321
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 7: And if you got to play against me, then I'm

1322
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 7: gonna just show you.

1323
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: These great stuff. We could visit all day. Thanks so

1324
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: much for joining us in best of luck against Thanks.

1325
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 5: For having me.

1326
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: All right, there's our visit with a Z's al Shire

1327
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: and I told you it was good. It was very good.

1328
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: If you missed any part of that, it's in podcasts

1329
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: form Houston Texans dot Com, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts.

1330
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: So we've got a lot of other stuff coming up

1331
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: on the show. In fact, on Tuesday, we weren't sure

1332
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: if we were gonna get a ZAS because you never know.

1333
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: And I had Wade Smith at d kalou in earlier

1334
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: in the day and we did a bunch of airtime.

1335
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: We had a bunch of great audio. Some of it

1336
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: never made air because we had to get the Azas

1337
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: interview on and other things happened along the way. We

1338
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: ran out a show. So it's the lost tapes. It's

1339
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: end Kalu and Wade Smith and we get into some

1340
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: different territory, some non sports stuff in addition to the

1341
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: sports stuff, and you're gonna want to hear this. We

1342
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun Wade Smith Ndi Kalu. It's

1343
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: the Tuesday Players show with a vet with the legends

1344
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: Wade Smith and Endi Kalou but indie hosts on Tuesday,

1345
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: So you're gonna hear that, among other things coming your

1346
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: way next on Texans Radio keeping it rolling in this

1347
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: bonus hour of Texans Radio tonight with no Thursday Night football.

1348
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: We have playoffs coming up Saturday, Texans Chargers three point

1349
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: thirty NRG Stadium. Can't wait for that. And in the meantime,

1350
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: Wade Smith and nd Kalu Indie hosts the Tuesday Night program.

1351
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 1: We had a bunch of stuff that never made air

1352
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: because we had aziz al Shire. You just heard that

1353
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: in the last segment. So here the lost apes some

1354
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: of Tuesday Night's conversation and let's just drop in right

1355
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of this where I asked Wade Smith

1356
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: about what he made of the Indianapolis Colts not doing anything,

1357
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: no change at coach or GM following a disappointing season.

1358
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: Not that they deserve to go, but what did Wade think?

1359
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 5: I'm a fan of it.

1360
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 6: I'm a fan of it because you know, when there's

1361
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 6: when the other organizations in your division are functioning in

1362
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 6: a dysfunctional manner, that helps you, That makes your road

1363
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 6: a little bit easier because of the teams that you're

1364
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 6: gonna have to see most often what I saw out

1365
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 6: of the Colts and Anthony Richardson as a quarterback over

1366
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 6: the past couple of years. It just seems like a

1367
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 6: guy that has a high ceiling and an extremely low

1368
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 6: floor and can't stay healthy. And so if you're in

1369
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 6: a position where you have your your your franchise quarterback

1370
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 6: that has those attributes attributed to them, that's a good

1371
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 6: thing for everybody else that you got to face, especially

1372
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 6: in Houston Texans. So I'm all ford them, you know,

1373
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 6: stick standing pact. I keep doing what you're doing, because

1374
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 6: what you're doing is is getting you eight and nine.

1375
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 6: It's getting you I don't forgot what they got last year,

1376
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 6: but nine and eight. But wait, losing, losing, losing the

1377
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 6: game at home that would have put you in the playoffs.

1378
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 5: I think they were nine and eight.

1379
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: So we're both nine and seven going in to that

1380
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: last game and Texans got the ten and seven.

1381
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 6: Okay, right, So I'm I'm all for that. And it

1382
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 6: seems like it's it's what's going on around our division.

1383
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 6: There's a lot of dysfunction and other organizations, and I'm

1384
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 6: all for it.

1385
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm all for it for an entirely different reason.

1386
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 8: I feel like in the NFL, and I'm not all

1387
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 8: for it because oh yeah, the Texans are not going

1388
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 8: to beat up on them next year. I think in

1389
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 8: the NFL they're too quick to make changes.

1390
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

1391
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 8: I feel like as soon as a coach has a

1392
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 8: bad year or two bad years, they're just ready to

1393
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 8: start from scratch. Where we've seen that this is cyclical.

1394
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 8: Where we've seen that there are so many other factors

1395
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 8: that helped leading to success. When you look at Brian

1396
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 8: dave All, the coach for the New York Giants, he

1397
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 8: was the coach of the Year in twenty twenty two,

1398
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 8: and now he led team in twenty twenty four slash

1399
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 8: twenty five to a three and fourteen record. Things changed quickly.

1400
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 8: So I say that to say I understand the Colt's

1401
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 8: ownership saying, you know what, let's give this one more year,

1402
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 8: especially with a quarterback position like I want to see

1403
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 8: Richardson for one more year before I say this isn't

1404
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 8: gonna work. It's time to move on.

1405
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 6: It's interesting, though, you mentioned New York and their decision

1406
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 6: is to stand pat with Dave Ball. Dave All and

1407
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 6: Cohen both decided together that Daniel Jones was the guy,

1408
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 6: and they tenth away. San Qwonbala pharkly in the process,

1409
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 6: and you see what Saquan has done this year, and

1410
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 6: surely so after a situation like that, that means they're

1411
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 6: gonna have to bring in a new young quarterback. They're

1412
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 6: basically starting from scratching it. So to me, they're really

1413
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 6: showing up. It's not a one more year thing. To me,

1414
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 6: with the Giants, that is a photo confidence that we're

1415
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 6: in here for the long run. And so we'll see

1416
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 6: how it works out for them. But like I said,

1417
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 6: those guys you saw it on the Hard Knocks, you know,

1418
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 6: off season deal. You saw all their decision making processes

1419
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 6: that they went through in order to decide that. Daniel

1420
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 6: Jones a guy and last time I checked, I think

1421
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones is playing backup quarterback for one of the

1422
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 6: players Minnesota. He didn't even dress the last time. Yeah,

1423
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 6: he's just he's collecting the check. And I ain't mad

1424
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 6: at him. I'm never mad at that. But you know,

1425
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 6: it wasn't the right decision, and so those guys made

1426
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 6: that decision and I got to live with it.

1427
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 5: But that's I'm sure it's good for them.

1428
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 6: They feel good that they have the voter confidence from

1429
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 6: the ownership there. But if you're a fan of the

1430
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 6: New York Giants, you might not be as excited about

1431
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 6: that decision that was made because they they chose Daniel

1432
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 6: Jones over sa Kuon Barkley. Like, say that one more time.

1433
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 6: I laughed, they chose Daniel Jones over Saku Barkley.

1434
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 8: I will say this. I just brought up the Giants

1435
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 8: to show how things can turn quickly. Yeah, I actually

1436
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 8: think they should be fired as punishment for what they did.

1437
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 8: They made the owner of the Giants. They made that

1438
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 8: organization just look dumb and maybe, and this is probably

1439
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 8: why a lot of teams they don't want the Hard

1440
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 8: Knights camera, especially the it's become a meme now where

1441
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 8: they're discussing he's not going to fill Philadelphia, and he

1442
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 8: goes to Philadelphia and has a historic season. I actually

1443
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 8: think they should have moved on from this, more so

1444
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 8: the general manager, you know, to make that decision and

1445
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 8: really make John Marr look bad.

1446
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I just saw such a bad look.

1447
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: And his kids are smarter than he is. You see

1448
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: the one with the GFS kids Like, listen, you gotta

1449
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: go ahead and draft Jayden Daniels. He's a once in

1450
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: a lifetime prospect. He's like, shut up, kid, we know

1451
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Daniel Jones is gonna be fine. Now,

1452
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't have predicted the total meltdown that Jones had,

1453
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: but you could have predicted that he's not going to

1454
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: be an all everything player because he hasn't been yet.

1455
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: You know, he's had that twenty twenty two season for

1456
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: Jones was really solid, no question about it. But twenty

1457
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: twenty three wasn't so much. And you live with them

1458
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: every day, so you got to make the right call.

1459
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 5: Here.

1460
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 6: Can you imagine Jayden Daniels and Saquon Barkley on the

1461
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 6: same team.

1462
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, come on, draft Daniels.

1463
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 5: Draft Daniels and you keep Saquon. Yes, they'd be playing

1464
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 5: this week.

1465
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 8: And I'll say this the reactions, you know, I focus

1466
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 8: on the negative, but I also feel like they reward

1467
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 8: these quarterbacks too quickly. Because I've been big on you know,

1468
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 8: I need to see a quarterback for two or three

1469
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 8: years before I say this is my franchise guy. So

1470
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 8: just as I mentioned that they get rid of coaches

1471
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 8: too quickly or they make decisions. On the negative side,

1472
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 8: I do feel like with some of these quarterbacks they're

1473
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 8: too quick to break the bank and say this is

1474
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 8: our franchise guy, and then it handcuffs your organization for

1475
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 8: years to come.

1476
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: Well, I got a question about that, all right? What

1477
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence was heading into year four, which is

1478
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: usually when you pay your first round draft choice. Going

1479
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: into year four. We don't want the awkwardness of year five,

1480
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: even though we already have them under contract for that

1481
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: year because we opted in on it. But God forbid

1482
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: we go on that year with any kind of year four,

1483
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: with any kind of question. But they should have questioned it, right,

1484
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: That's one that they should have waited on.

1485
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 5: Now.

1486
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: I know he's hurt down the stretch here, but he

1487
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: wasn't playing well when he was healthy, and I questioned

1488
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: that move. I know you'd love to feel like, oh

1489
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: we have our quarterback for centuries now, everything's going to

1490
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: be great, but you're kind of talking yourself into it

1491
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: at that point.

1492
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 8: No, And that's the market that the NFL has created.

1493
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 8: I don't know who's to blame. And like Wade said,

1494
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 8: I'm all for seeing guys get money. So even if

1495
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 8: I don't think that they're as great as their contracts

1496
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 8: suggest they are, I'm smiling saying good for you, young man,

1497
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 8: get that money. But at the same time, with many

1498
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 8: of these quarterbacks, Trevor Lawrence included, I feel like they're

1499
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 8: signing guys to these deals when they don't have to, like,

1500
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 8: when they don't really have any other option. At some point,

1501
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 8: as an owner, you can say, look, you've done pretty good,

1502
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 8: You've done well for us. I'm not ready to commit

1503
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 8: eight nine years over two hundred million to you. At words,

1504
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 8: I'm going to tag you and woe is you. You're

1505
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 8: gonna make thirty five million for one year as you're

1506
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 8: proven to be the face of our franchise. I don't

1507
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 8: know where it started or why, but I just feel

1508
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 8: like these organizations they feel like they have to sign

1509
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,520
Speaker 8: these quarterbacks before they've truly proven themselves.

1510
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that you put yourself in a bond

1511
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 6: because you have guys that check a lot of the boxes,

1512
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 6: but don't check the box of what they're doing on

1513
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 6: the film, on the field. And so because they check

1514
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 6: all the other boxes, you're convincing yourself that hey, if

1515
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 6: we put this piece here and we give them help there,

1516
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 6: and were bringing this coach, then he can check the

1517
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 6: final box of actually being a franchise quarterback, and if

1518
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 6: you don't check that box about what you're actually doing

1519
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 6: on the field, that that is the everything, that is

1520
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 6: the meat and potatoes of why you're getting paid and

1521
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 6: you're being labeled a franchise quarterback, is what you're actually

1522
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 6: doing on the field. And unfortunately for some organizations, and

1523
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 6: fortunately for some guys, because they check a lot of

1524
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 6: the other boxes, or they might show a glimpse here,

1525
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 6: or they might go on a little run there, they're

1526
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 6: gonna get paid like they're the guy. And a lot

1527
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 6: of times when that happens, the organization ends up in

1528
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 6: a bad situation.

1529
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 5: And so fortunately for.

1530
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 6: The Texans, you know, we got our guy and he's

1531
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 6: showing it on the field that he's our guy, but

1532
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 6: he still has a couple of years before, you know,

1533
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 6: you have to actually pay him to show that he's

1534
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 6: the guy. So we'll see when that happens. But you know,

1535
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 6: there's other organizations that are jumping the gun or having

1536
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 6: guys that are not showing it on the field, and

1537
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 6: they're making those decisions in advance, and it usually comes

1538
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 6: back to bite them.

1539
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 8: You say, jumping the gun, that's exactly you know, the

1540
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 8: phrase I'm thinking of I truly, and I'm coming from

1541
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 8: the ownership point of view. I just don't understand why

1542
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 8: they feel like they have to sign these guys when

1543
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 8: they do, because the other option for the quarterback is

1544
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 8: to sit out while he's under contract. Then I don't

1545
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 8: know too many guys that are really going to sit

1546
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 8: out under contract before they've truly proven themselves. And then

1547
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 8: if you take it a step further, maybe this is

1548
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 8: why a god won't give me the billion dollars I

1549
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 8: need to buy a team, because I would literally make

1550
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 8: and just focusing on the quarterback, make him play out

1551
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 8: his fifth year option if he's the first round pick,

1552
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,879
Speaker 8: and then I'll tag him one year. And then if

1553
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 8: you know he continues to play well, you do like

1554
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 8: Joe Flacco, you bet on yourself and you won, and

1555
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 8: then I'm I'm backing up the brinks truck for him well.

1556
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 8: And so the problem with that is that if you

1557
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 8: wait too long, you're paying more than you would have paid.

1558
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 5: There is, but there is no though.

1559
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 8: I would rather pray a premium and have a little

1560
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 8: bit more security in knowing that he's gonna live up

1561
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 8: to the contract. And I get what you're saying instead

1562
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:30,440
Speaker 8: of the gamble.

1563
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,919
Speaker 6: To me, you know when you know, and you're supposed

1564
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 6: to by year four, you should know. Not necessarily, it

1565
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 6: doesn't take to year.

1566
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 8: Six before your four, after your four, Like if you

1567
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 8: say after the fourth season, I'll agree with you.

1568
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 5: After it depends.

1569
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 6: It depends on what you do in those first three years.

1570
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 6: Let's say those first three years you're you are one

1571
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 6: of the top five quarterbacks, top ten quarterbacks in the league.

1572
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 6: That fourth year you pay them. Let's say maybe the

1573
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 6: first year you didn't play. But give me three years

1574
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 6: of consistent play at a high level. It's time to

1575
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 6: get paid. But I don't want to wait five six

1576
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 6: years if I've been playing at a consistently high level

1577
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 6: for all that time, because now you're then I think

1578
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 6: at that point you will run into issues. The quarterback

1579
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 6: will have a legitimate gripe of like, hey, I've been

1580
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 6: to two Pro Bowls out of the past you know,

1581
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 6: three seasons, and I'm throwing for four to four. I mean,

1582
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 6: it's kind of similar to what happened with Lamar Jackson,

1583
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 6: Like Lamar Jackson should have gotten paid probably a year earlier,

1584
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 6: and now I worked out because you know, the character

1585
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 6: of the guy matters too, like how he's willing to

1586
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 6: what he's willing to accept and not accept. That plays

1587
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 6: into it as well. But Lamar Jackson did well enough

1588
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 6: at least in the regular season that he should have

1589
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 6: got paid early. Now, the thing that kept them, I

1590
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 6: think from getting paid early was that he didn't have

1591
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 6: the playoff success. So if you have that blemish on

1592
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 6: your record, then you can't be mad and complain and

1593
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 6: because you're not getting it done. But in my scenario

1594
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 6: on this hybit us, we're coming up with, if we

1595
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 6: got three years of a guy playing at a high

1596
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 6: level and you have some playoff success, go ahead and

1597
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 6: pay him.

1598
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 8: Okay, So if a guy and I'm just bringing up

1599
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 8: a random stat in year twenty eighteen through for four

1600
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 8: thousand yards twenty nineteen through for a close to four

1601
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 8: thousand yards twenty twenty, you know, throws for over four thousand,

1602
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 8: five hundred yards, you're saying that's enough and you would

1603
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 8: pay him.

1604
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know who you're talking about, But.

1605
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 8: I and that guys, and I know this is an outlier,

1606
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 8: and I'm trying to be somewhat funny, but that's Deshaun Watson.

1607
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: But understand I don't think they paid him too early.

1608
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 5: I think they paid him at the wrong time.

1609
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: I think it unraveled for other reasons.

1610
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 5: Reasons.

1611
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's like, no, no, no. When you're talking about

1612
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 8: investing in a guy to be the face of your organization,

1613
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 8: you have to factor in the other reasons off the field.

1614
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 5: What are they going to do with that success? Right?

1615
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 5: But you're going down a rabbit hole here.

1616
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 6: But I will say this, in theory, if you're handling

1617
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 6: your own business and then you're play is handling their

1618
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 6: business on and off the field, after three years, pay

1619
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 6: the man that that to me goes with that saying

1620
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 6: you know what, in my hypothetical, I'm not considering that

1621
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 6: my quarterback might be doing all this crazy stuff off

1622
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 6: the field because because that guy's not a franchise quarterback anyway.

1623
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 5: Okay, typically and I share do all this.

1624
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 8: Right, How long are the contracts for those top ten

1625
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 8: top fifteen players?

1626
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 5: Are they four or five years?

1627
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: When you're drafted? When so the first round is four

1628
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: years plus you get the fifth year option if after

1629
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: year three they declare they want the fifth year.

1630
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 8: And again, I can't believe I'm quote unquote siding with

1631
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 8: the owners on this.

1632
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 5: Why not let that play out?

1633
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: Because you guys tell me your players the franchise tag

1634
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: is it's a lot of money, right, it's top five

1635
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: average salary at your position, but it's it feels like

1636
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: an act of hostility. Sometimes not hostility. I mean, give

1637
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: me that kind of hostility. But to me, you don't

1638
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 1: tag somebody. The fair thing to do is you tag

1639
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: them if you're really willing to negotiate and you just

1640
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: can't come to an agreement by that deadline, so you

1641
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: tag them, say let's negotiate here, and if you can't

1642
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 1: come to an agreement after that, then you work out

1643
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: a trade.

1644
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,879
Speaker 8: No, why can't you tag someone because you're not sold

1645
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 8: on them? That is the problem. What do you call

1646
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 8: when you're about to marry somebody? My fiance? You know

1647
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 8: that that stage, Like you're.

1648
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: Like yes to put you on the tag.

1649
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:31,520
Speaker 8: You're a pre nup guy. Some guys are not. Yes necessary,

1650
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 8: you better be a preen up guy.

1651
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 5: Not necessary. One hundred.

1652
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 6: When did you meet your wife that it doesn't matter,

1653
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 6: it does, It doesn't matter, it matters.

1654
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 5: High school.

1655
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 6: By that time you have trust in her, you know,

1656
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 6: and we still signed the pre and up.

1657
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 5: Really everybody. I mean, everybody's different.

1658
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: I want I want to do called relationship advice with that.

1659
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 8: You have to sign a prenup if you and on

1660
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 8: the flip side, if you're Who's the star wnba Caitlyn Clark, Yeah, yeah,

1661
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 8: if she was fixing to get married, I would tell

1662
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 8: her she needs a sign of prenup.

1663
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 6: But her situation is different because she is a high

1664
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 6: like she like she how do I put it? It's

1665
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 6: different for her because I don't think she was dating

1666
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 6: somebody from a long time ago. It doesn't matter to me.

1667
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 6: It matters because if you if you met me when

1668
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 6: I was like.

1669
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 5: I get what you're saying, but don't you were with

1670
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 5: me and you loved me through all that time.

1671
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 8: The divors rate is over fifty percent in America. The

1672
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 8: majority of those people knew each other. They knew each

1673
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 8: other when they before they quote unquote made it.

1674
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: You could both be right, though, ND does your prenup

1675
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: with a high school sweetheart cover?

1676
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 5: All? Right?

1677
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a certain percentage. It might not be half.

1678
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 5: I mean, how are you.

1679
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: Gonna work that out? Because I see Wade's point. You

1680
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: marry your high school sweetheart, then you hit it big,

1681
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: you've become Jeff Bezos or something she deserves. She helped

1682
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,520
Speaker 1: you get there, she did, she helped her in your life.

1683
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 8: You cannot tell me that your wife did that. People

1684
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 8: are going to be ticked off with me. But when

1685
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 8: you say she helped or you get there, that's part

1686
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 8: of the business. Then yes, you're talking about boy Like

1687
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 8: you've read an NFL right, you played in the NFL, right,

1688
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 8: and you know your wife since high school. Okay, so

1689
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 8: I'll just use my examine. You know how many power

1690
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 8: cleans she did for me? Probably, but how many meals

1691
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 8: for how many meals did she cook for you?

1692
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 5: How many?

1693
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 6: How? Like there's a lot of things that help you

1694
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 6: get to where you get beside peace of mind, like

1695
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 6: handling things that so you could just focus your attention

1696
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 6: specifically on football, like those things matter.

1697
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 5: Do those things hold weight?

1698
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 6: You can't just come on, come on, Indy, I mean

1699
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 6: you made it through you good?

1700
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 5: It ain't like but to me, like I met my

1701
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 5: wife before.

1702
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 6: She didn't know who I was when she met she

1703
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 6: did not know how that was a big plus. It

1704
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 6: was a big plus. You didn't know who I was

1705
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 6: where at that time. There was a lot of people

1706
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 6: that knew her was. I feel bad for a lot

1707
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 6: of the guys that are in an NFL that they

1708
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 6: are who they are and then they meet these women

1709
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 6: out here because a lot of times guys are targets.

1710
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 6: But if you met me before I became a mark,

1711
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 6: before I became a target, and we built something and

1712
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 6: we and you've been through through the ups and downs

1713
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 6: and getting through the process, I don't I have no

1714
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 6: need for the prenup at that point.

1715
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 5: That's just me.

1716
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 6: Now, if you were somebody that met your Girna league,

1717
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 6: then to me, I would advise exactly like you say, like, yeah,

1718
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 6: you need to get a prenup because you don't know

1719
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 6: for sure that person's motives.

1720
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 5: That's that's how I look at it.

1721
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: Everybody show ever, all that specially from this conversation is

1722
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: Travis Johnson. That's all I have to say.

1723
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 6: Love to hear what Trap would have to say. I

1724
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 6: have no idea what he was saying. Like you could

1725
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 6: flip a coin. He could be on my side of

1726
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 6: this or on your side of this, Indy or he

1727
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 6: could he could he could just walk the tight rope.

1728
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: But the line of the day is how many power

1729
01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: cleans has she done.

1730
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 6: But my wife was a rabbit for me when I

1731
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 6: used to do my passaid stuff. You want, you know,

1732
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 6: she helped me get ready for the draft.

1733
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 8: And I'm not saying you shouldn't have, you know, because

1734
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 8: I don't want he's looking to be crazy we go

1735
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 8: to one of your awesome events. I'm just saying I

1736
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 8: would advise every athlete, man or woman to get a prenup.

1737
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: Ok you revised that a little bit.

1738
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said every, and I said that from the jump.

1739
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: So my kid is a freshman in college and he's

1740
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: still in love with this high school sweetheart, and I

1741
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: think that, you know, barring some big upset the next

1742
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: three years, they'll probably you know, get together for good.

1743
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: Now they might not. I don't want to put all

1744
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: that pressure on them, but if they do, should he

1745
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: sign a prenup?

1746
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 5: They both should?

1747
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 1: They both should?

1748
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 8: Well, well, I guess you both sign anyway. Yeah. If

1749
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,480
Speaker 8: she I don't know what she's studying.

1750
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: Or therapy, Okay, he's going to Macomb's School of Business,

1751
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: papers for him or with him? No, she's not doing okay.

1752
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,520
Speaker 5: If she's sitting sitting in his study groups.

1753
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 8: Uh no, Okay, they should absolutely sign it.

1754
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 5: Okay, they should absolutely sign it.

1755
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: This is the best show ever, by the way, that's

1756
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: just reality. We're gonna start a new format.

1757
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 8: And here's the thing. If you're a decent human being.

1758
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 8: So let's say, uh, you know, vander Child becomes a

1759
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 8: multi millionaire and things don't work out with with his missus.

1760
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 8: He's not just gonna be like, all right, you're gonna

1761
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 8: go move into the slums of whatever. You're still gonna

1762
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 8: take care of somebody. But but you don't want no,

1763
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 8: but you don't want the Why do you need why

1764
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 8: do you need the prenup? If that's the case, you

1765
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 8: don't need a pre that's my point, not no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1766
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 5: You know I'm no.

1767
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 8: I mean to say, you don't need the prenup to

1768
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 8: tell you to do something like that. You know to to,

1769
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 8: but you should have the prenup just in case she's

1770
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 8: just there for that reason, and you don't.

1771
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 6: If she's just there for that reason, you would have

1772
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 6: flushed that out. Like you said, Berndon Kiss has been

1773
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 6: with this girl for how many years now, like three years,

1774
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 6: three years, So by the time they'd be getting married,

1775
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 6: they'd be together six seven years.

1776
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, but if you don't have a pre nup, now

1777
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 8: you have the court telling you you have to pay

1778
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 8: this person X amount. That's why I think you should

1779
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,879
Speaker 8: have the preuch half right, That's a lot of those.

1780
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 6: Are rules and things that I care not to know

1781
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 6: about because I'm not trying to get involved in that.

1782
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 8: After my third child, it was like, it doesn't matter

1783
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 8: anyway because you know, child's poor and all that and

1784
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 8: on you. You know, I wasn't going anywhere. But no,

1785
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 8: I think you, in my opinion, you should advise it.

1786
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 8: And it goes both ways because in this scenario, the

1787
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 8: woman would be like, oh, are you planning on leaving me?

1788
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 5: You know?

1789
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 8: And on the flip side, if there's any pushback from

1790
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 8: the woman, the thought is, oh are you planning on

1791
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 8: leaving me? Like are you just in this for the money?

1792
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah?

1793
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 8: Okay, last example, Okay, you said, you know if they

1794
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 8: you before you made the NFL. Let me just think

1795
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 8: of a random college player, Travis Hunter. Yeah, I don't know.

1796
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 5: I wouldn't.

1797
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 6: I wouldn't advise Travis Hunter to not deal with that girl.

1798
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 6: She already showed herself untrustworthy. So that's that's that. Those

1799
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 6: those scenarios kind of go out the book, and then

1800
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter is gonna make it to the NFL and

1801
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 6: everyone is going to know who he is, and he's

1802
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 6: probably gonna be the number one pick in the draft.

1803
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 6: He definitely needs to sign a prenup. But like his

1804
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 6: situation and my situation and a lot of other guy's

1805
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 6: situations aren't the same. I just in my situation. If

1806
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 6: you've known someone for an extended period of time, and

1807
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 6: and you can tell by the to me, like by

1808
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 6: the character of your spouse or your mate, like maybe

1809
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 6: I need this and maybe I don't need this.

1810
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 5: So you have to. You have to.

1811
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 6: You gotta have some You gotta have some sort of

1812
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 6: trust in your in your spouse or your potential spouse

1813
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 6: for you to to make a decision to marry them anyway,

1814
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 6: Like to me, like that Marion thing is not like

1815
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 6: some thing that you just do. It's like I did

1816
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 6: waiting for the long Oil. So hal, so what do

1817
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 6: we need a pren up for? All right, Well, to

1818
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 6: death to your part.

1819
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 5: All right.

1820
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 8: If you need more relationship advice than come right here

1821
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 8: to Texan radios.

1822
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: All Right, there's some off script stuff to say the

1823
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: least from end Kalou and Wade Smith. I was really

1824
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: enjoying that. I was really enjoying that. Very interesting stuff. Indeed,

1825
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: the opinions of those two gentlemen, and I can't wait

1826
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: to do more radio with them. Coming up. Final segment,

1827
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: let's set the playoff table for you. Any late breaking stuff,

1828
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: We've got it all here on Texans All Access. Final

1829
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 1: segment of the night here on Texans Radio. Mark VanderMeer

1830
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: with you, and what a great situation we've got here

1831
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: with playoffs in Houston Saturday at three thirty, and I

1832
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: know everyone talks about Hey, Saturday at three thirty. This

1833
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: is the normal Texan slot. So the Texans are five

1834
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: and two in this slot. This is the eighth playoff

1835
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: game you have hosted. If you'll win it, you go

1836
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: six and two at home in the playoffs, further reinforcing

1837
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: that the goal needs to be play as many as

1838
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: possible at home. And obviously, and they still might get

1839
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: to do that this year because upsets and you win,

1840
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: you'll get a chance to host more. But you got

1841
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: Saturday for sure against the Chargers, who are offensively coordinated.

1842
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: Did I say that properly? Well enough? Greg Roman is

1843
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 1: the oc. You know he was in Baltimore previously. He

1844
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: was with Jim Harbaugh before in San Francisco, and he's

1845
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: with the LA Chargers. And Greg answer to a trivia question.

1846
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,799
Speaker 1: One of the original assistant coaches with the Houston Texans

1847
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and two. He was the tight

1848
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: ends coach and worked for Dom Capers. Now Dom is

1849
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: still in the league as a senior defensive assistant for

1850
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. How about that. So if you want

1851
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: to talk about head coaches who have gone back to

1852
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: a team they were the head coach for and become

1853
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: an assistant. I know everyone's talking about Vance Joseph in

1854
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: Denver as the defensive coordinator former head coach there. You

1855
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,560
Speaker 1: can also point to Dom Caper going back to Carolina.

1856
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: He was the head coach there when they were an

1857
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: expansion team and in the second year went to the

1858
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game. In fact, Dom's experience in Caro Lota

1859
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: helped him get the job as the Houston Texans first

1860
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: ever head coach. Today's history lesson has now been concluded,

1861
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,839
Speaker 1: But here's Greg Roman talking about Texans pass rushers Daniel

1862
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: Hunter and Will Anderson Junior two double digit sack guys. Now,

1863
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers have good ones, Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack,

1864
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: these guys are names, you know, but they don't have

1865
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: double digit sacks each. They're single digit sack guys. Not

1866
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: that they're not dangerous, but what does Roman think of

1867
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: the Texans defensive ends?

1868
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 9: They keep you up at night, these two guys, Anderson

1869
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,440
Speaker 9: and Hunter, I mean Hunter, savvy, I mean, just unbelievable

1870
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 9: career to this point. You know, all pro, all Pro,

1871
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 9: all pro player, and if he's not, he should be.

1872
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 9: And then you look over at at Anderson. You know,

1873
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 9: I know they did some wheeling and dealing to get

1874
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 9: him in the draft. They felt that he was that good,

1875
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 9: and they're probably right. This guy's forced to be reckoned

1876
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 9: with off the edge and they've kind of, like I said,

1877
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 9: their scheme fits their players. Their players fit their scheme,

1878
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 9: and you know they're they're really playing at a high level. So,

1879
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 9: you know, in order to mitigate that, you know, there's

1880
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 9: a lot of different.

1881
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 5: Ways you can go.

1882
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 9: From a situational standpoint, it might change, risk management will

1883
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 9: change in and out during the game, different parts of

1884
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 9: the game. You know, there might be some certain things

1885
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 9: we want to do where we're willing to be a

1886
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 9: little bit take a little bit different approach. And then

1887
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 9: there's times where you you know you're gonna basically make

1888
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 9: sure these guys are getting taken care of, so it'll move,

1889
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 9: you know, the target will move throughout the game.

1890
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: All right, Herbert moves, but not as much as say

1891
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I know he was referring to different things there,

1892
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: but that's Greg Roman, offensive coordinator for the l A

1893
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 1: Chargers and a former Texans assistant coach. And I've always

1894
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: wondered why he has not become a head coach yet,

1895
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,799
Speaker 1: because I think he's got the pelts as an OC

1896
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: to warrant heavy consideration for a head coaching job in

1897
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: this league. And I think there are seven openings right now.

1898
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy. We talked about it earlier, all the openings,

1899
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: all the mayhem, the drama going on with coaching interviews

1900
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: and all of that. Look, we've been through that here

1901
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 1: right twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three.

1902
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: We got our guy. I'm so happy you have stability,

1903
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: and like I said earlier this week, you are building

1904
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: a program here. Winna lose Saturday. You have a bright

1905
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: future to look forward to, but the immediate future so cool.

1906
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Playoffs Saturday three point thirty with the Chargers. Let's get

1907
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: it on tomorrow, full three hour show of Texans Radio.

1908
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. Area forty five is coming up.

1909
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: Have a great night, Go Texans.