Speaker 1: Hello, Hey there. What's your name? Griffin? What's up?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: How's it going? I'm hanging in there, brother. What would
Speaker 1: you want to talk about today?
Speaker 2: I recently had an accident where I lost my right hand.
Speaker 1: Wow. What was the accident?
Speaker 2: So? I was one of my buddies is living with me,
Speaker 2: and I was clean out his closet and there was
Speaker 2: like this fireworks in the closet. Now, we thought it
Speaker 2: was a smoke bomb typed in thking know, the ones
Speaker 2: that you light the fuse goes down like you fucking
Speaker 2: like throw it and it smokes right yeah, and it
Speaker 2: blew up in my hand a flashbang. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you ever played Just Go, but like I was
Speaker 2: blind for like thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: Holy shit. So wait a minute. So okay, So you
Speaker 1: were in your friend's closet and you discovered these fire
Speaker 1: works and then you lit them on fire while holding
Speaker 1: them or they just randomly exploded in your hand.
Speaker 2: So we found them in this close and this is
Speaker 2: my home. So I had taken it for my brother
Speaker 2: all a long time ago, like ten years ago probably,
Speaker 2: and I remember like shit, like oh I remember this,
Speaker 2: and I'm like we're clean out, was closing says more room.
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, hey, might as well light them. So
Speaker 2: I walked on our porch try to light the winds
Speaker 2: blowing so like ships not lighting, I'd go inside. The
Speaker 2: wick just goes down and then boom, blew up.
Speaker 1: Basically, oh my goodness, when did this happen?
Speaker 2: This happened almost two weeks ago today.
Speaker 1: God damn? And how much of your arm blew? Like
Speaker 1: the whole arm?
Speaker 2: No, luckly not. So my hand was like it was
Speaker 2: still kind of there, but the hairs were like half gone.
Speaker 2: And I guess my like my dad and friend found
Speaker 2: have my palm in the sink or something?
Speaker 1: Your dad and your your dad and your and found
Speaker 1: your palm in the sink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like part of my thumb.
Speaker 1: So when it happened, did you go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: did you like freak out?
Speaker 2: No? No, So I was kind of silent and like
Speaker 2: I was just kind of like, damn. I thought I
Speaker 2: was dead for a second because it was straight, like white,
Speaker 2: like bright, righter than the sun. And so my friend
Speaker 2: was there with me like, well, we're we're lighting it,
Speaker 2: and then my hearing came back like five seconds later.
Speaker 2: I just hear him screaming. So I thought he was
Speaker 2: like deathly injured, but he was perfectly fine. And I
Speaker 2: was like this in my hand, I had like thirtygree
Speaker 2: burns like up and down my stomach and leg and
Speaker 2: like my right than my eye. But he was fine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, wow, And what kind of fireworks were they?
Speaker 1: They were like a flash bang type of thing.
Speaker 2: I guess it turned out to be a flash bang
Speaker 2: type thing, yeah, or more like a bomb, I guess.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So what are you gonna do? What is so?
Speaker 2: So? What? So?
Speaker 1: What does your right hand look like?
Speaker 2: It's just a numb So they cut it like right
Speaker 2: at the wrist or like I guess they say below
Speaker 2: the wrist, but in my thinking it's above the wrist
Speaker 2: and that makes sense. What's closer to my fingertips? Part
Speaker 2: of the risk?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about all this? Are you like
Speaker 1: are you pissed off?
Speaker 2: I'm very angry and like like Matt myself, like I know,
Speaker 2: like have you ever been like just guilty at yourself?
Speaker 2: Like I've never been guilty of myself done for myself
Speaker 2: until now. I could just very angry, but also like sad,
Speaker 2: like I use my I'm very like right hand dumb.
Speaker 2: It like I twist it with my left hand, but
Speaker 2: like I can't do anything now. I'm I keep trying
Speaker 2: to do shit with the right hand, and it's like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, it's not there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: MM, So I have to ask you this, when's the
Speaker 1: last time you masturbated?
Speaker 2: I've been trying to it's just like it's not the same.
Speaker 2: So I haven't like I haven't finish, like if that
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 1: You haven't come since the accident.
Speaker 2: No, literally the day of I actually, like hours before
Speaker 2: the accident, I did. So that's good.
Speaker 1: So I'm not like, wow, you came not knowing it
Speaker 1: was the very last time you would jerk yourself off
Speaker 1: with your right.
Speaker 2: Hand exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: That's tragic. I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 2: I know. No, you're good.
Speaker 1: Damn. So you did they put did they give you
Speaker 1: like anything cool? Did they give you like a hook
Speaker 1: or something?
Speaker 2: That's so funny you say that? So like the week
Speaker 2: of so I have like this really like top of
Speaker 2: the line surgeon who like I guess like a couple
Speaker 2: of years back, he like showed someone's arm back together.
Speaker 2: His name's Van Beek. If anyone needs to practice plastic surgeon.
Speaker 2: He does like tits and ass and ship. But anyways,
Speaker 2: him and this army doc attached a coat hanger hook
Speaker 2: to my hand, and we're joking that that's gonna be
Speaker 2: like a ten thousand dollars hook the way that our
Speaker 2: health care works.
Speaker 1: Your doctor attached like a literal. Your doctor attached a
Speaker 1: literal coat hanger to your arm.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not like it's attached like I have like
Speaker 2: wrap and then he wrapped it on top of that
Speaker 2: and wrapped some more wrap. But yeah, fucking coat hanger.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow. So right now, are you're holding the phone
Speaker 1: with your left hand or with a coat hanger?
Speaker 2: Definitely with the left hand. I can't. The coat hanger
Speaker 2: doesn't have much mobility.
Speaker 1: What can you even why even why why is a
Speaker 1: coat hang? Why is a coat hanger better than a nub?
Speaker 1: What can you even do with the coat hand?
Speaker 2: Well, he just wants me to practice on my right hands.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get really weak. So like I can like, oh,
Speaker 2: like push elevator buttons and like pull like tissues towards me,
Speaker 2: or like when I'm eating pudding, like you get a
Speaker 2: lot of pudding and yogurt or a ship and hospital.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to eat the yogurt with my left hand,
Speaker 2: but it's just sliding around the table, so like the
Speaker 2: hook kind of holds it there.
Speaker 1: I feel like if you're you know how, like you'll
Speaker 1: be in an elevator and like there's somebody who's closer
Speaker 1: to the buttons than you are, so you ask them
Speaker 1: to hit your floor. I feel like if we were
Speaker 1: in an elevator and the guy closer to the buttons
Speaker 1: he had a hook as a hand, I would feel
Speaker 1: kind of mean asking him to hit my floor.
Speaker 2: That's so funny because like, Okay, I was in the
Speaker 2: hospital for like six days, and like on the fifth day,
Speaker 2: I walked around the hospital and me and my sister
Speaker 2: went down like took the elevator because we're on the
Speaker 2: third floor and I was right by the button and
Speaker 2: I was on a lodge druck, so I was asking like, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: like what what what are you guys going on? And
Speaker 2: I like you pressed they were on the sand floor's
Speaker 2: us But like I understand that's funny though, like them
Speaker 2: asking me push all these fucking buttons. That could be
Speaker 2: my future job though. I could be an elevator attendant.
Speaker 1: You could be an elevator attendant. What do you do?
Speaker 1: What do you do? Now? What's your are you you're
Speaker 1: you're nineteen, it says, yes, sir.
Speaker 2: So I am a retail sales supervisor at the home depot.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I feel like people are going to see
Speaker 1: you and the saw sales are going to go down.
Speaker 2: That's funny because I'm the supervisor for hardware like lumbers,
Speaker 2: so I work over there, sas and shit.
Speaker 1: They'd have no idea. It was fireworks. What do you
Speaker 1: mean like because you work at home depot? Never mind?
Speaker 1: So what? Uh? Okay? Let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. What's your do you? Are
Speaker 1: you in school right now? Are you going to college
Speaker 1: for anything while you're working?
Speaker 2: No? No, I'm I'm mom. So I was going to
Speaker 2: take this one gap year. I'm getting into that second
Speaker 2: gap here and just grounding at work. But now I'm
Speaker 2: you know, chilling at home for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your dream? What's your goal? What do
Speaker 1: you want to do?
Speaker 2: One one of my dreams was like the canoe down
Speaker 2: for kayak down the whole Mississippi. But like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I could do that now with just one hand,
Speaker 2: Like I probably could get like another hook type thing.
Speaker 2: But we'll see.
Speaker 1: Hold on, Okay, you know there's all sorts of like,
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of like dudes out there who are
Speaker 1: like doing shit like that. Like there's all these like
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a guy with a hook for a
Speaker 1: hand who's climbed Mount Everest before. Like that's a whole
Speaker 1: that's an entire genre of dude that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that Mount Everest maybe.
Speaker 1: Not, but hold on, I'm gonna look this up right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, okay, guy with no arm climbs mountain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: check the shit out, dude. This guy, uh, Kyle Maynard
Speaker 1: climbed Mount killiman Jorro and he didn't even have any
Speaker 1: he has he has three less slimbs than you do.
Speaker 1: He didn't have any Is.
Speaker 2: He a nugget basically, or he had like one leg
Speaker 2: or one arm or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got no arms and no legs and his
Speaker 1: ass climbs Mount Kilimanjaro. Oh my god, So look at that.
Speaker 1: You can pat down the Mississippi River.
Speaker 2: Did he climbing or did someone else climate for him? Like,
Speaker 2: was he like in the backpack, like one of it,
Speaker 2: like a baby carrier thing or not.
Speaker 1: That's that's just mean. That's just mean. Oh I guess now, well, hold,
Speaker 1: I guess you can kind of make those jokes now
Speaker 1: since you you don't. That's that's one of the bright
Speaker 1: sides of having a disabilities. You can, now, I guess,
Speaker 1: make jokes about other people with disabilities. Exactly this guy, Yeah, this,
Speaker 1: this guy. Kyle Maynard, a quadruple amputee, is the first
Speaker 1: person to climb Mount Kilimanjaro without prosthetics. He also played football, wrestled,
Speaker 1: and competed in martial arts. So if he heard you
Speaker 1: say that you can't, you know, canoe down the Mississippi Ripper,
Speaker 1: he would think you were a total pus.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait he he wrestled in ship before or after
Speaker 2: his quadruple amputation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think this is all after.
Speaker 1: I feel like they would I feel like they wouldn't
Speaker 1: put it in the bio if it was before.
Speaker 2: Okay, have you ever have you ever like this? The
Speaker 2: Special Olympics, like TikTok or whatever, they'll post their swimming
Speaker 2: team and literally like so their quadruple amputees and they'll
Speaker 2: just like throw them into the pool. And I don't
Speaker 2: know how much of the swimming they're doing themselves. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, look here's the I don't have to get into
Speaker 1: the Special Olympics. But all I'm saying is that if
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is that someone else did it, so
Speaker 1: you could probably figure it out how to do it.
Speaker 1: I believe all I'm saying is it's it has been
Speaker 1: proven to be physically possible.
Speaker 2: Now, what was see was I want? I was looking
Speaker 2: into if I could join like the Special Olympics because
Speaker 2: I run track or I used to, like I would
Speaker 2: kick ass and the two hundred meter dash like I
Speaker 2: would just well, it depends what people I'm running aast,
Speaker 2: you know, like if they are quadruple amputees, I'm definitely
Speaker 2: because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that this guy who climbed
Speaker 1: count uh Mount Kilimanjaro, he's quite an athlete.
Speaker 2: Well, but how do you think he run? Did someone
Speaker 2: just roll him and he gets ut like some of Mexico.
Speaker 1: He has like he doesn't. He just doesn't. I mean
Speaker 1: he's got like he's got like legs and arms. He
Speaker 1: just doesn't have the the other, like the whole thing,
Speaker 1: so like and that and that's you too. You have
Speaker 1: you have like an arm, you just don't. It's just enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean you're probably not gone bowling anytime soon, but you.
Speaker 2: Could do it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what do you really like bowling?
Speaker 2: I do? And that's funny because my friends were gonna
Speaker 2: go out. I was just on like a FaceTime with
Speaker 2: like three people and we're wondering what to do. Like
Speaker 2: I couldn't think anything, and someone said bowling, and everyone's
Speaker 2: acting and I'm just like looking at my hands with
Speaker 2: no like nub because I had just taken up my wrap,
Speaker 2: I mean with no fingers. I'm like, okay, they said
Speaker 2: they couldn't put the bumpers on. I'll try it, lefty,
Speaker 2: but we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well, I have to say, you have a pretty good
Speaker 1: sense of humor about this, for, you know, considering it
Speaker 1: just happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm trying, like I feel like there's no
Speaker 2: point in like getting like I mean, I'm mad, of course,
Speaker 2: but like there's no point in getting the pressed over.
Speaker 2: Like I can make it. I can make through it.
Speaker 2: And Honestly, it's like a whole new movies on life
Speaker 2: because like you really don't know how like how good
Speaker 2: you have it until it's gone, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: Honestly, you're you're about your dog in the background is
Speaker 1: probably mad because you haven't pet him.
Speaker 2: In two weeks' Oh dude, So he he'll try to
Speaker 2: take my food and I'll like point the hook at him,
Speaker 2: and he's so afraid of it, like he'll he'll act
Speaker 2: he never he never laid down when I say lay down,
Speaker 2: But when I point hook at the fall over his legs,
Speaker 2: it's perfect. But anyways, no, but yeah, you honestly, you
Speaker 2: don't know what you have until it's gone. But like,
Speaker 2: for instance, like the jerk it up thing, like I
Speaker 2: feel like I was a one, like tier one. Put
Speaker 2: the right hand, you know what I mean, like a
Speaker 2: plus now the left hand, Like you don't you can't
Speaker 2: do as well?
Speaker 1: You don't know, Yeah, like you were you were going
Speaker 1: to get a scholarship for jerking off.
Speaker 2: Yeah you could say that definitely if I tried hard enough,
Speaker 2: I definitely would.
Speaker 1: Well, all right, so I guess I mean, let's keep
Speaker 1: going down the list, right, Like what else do you
Speaker 1: want to do that you think you can't do anymore
Speaker 1: because you don't have an arm.
Speaker 2: Okay, fishing like I can hold the pole with my
Speaker 2: left hand, but the right hand, how I A'm I
Speaker 2: gonna reel it? You know what I mean? Okay, skiing
Speaker 2: I can't Well, you know what I could probably do skis,
Speaker 2: Like they could just attach the pole. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you ever SpongeBob, but Squidward gets like fucking paralyzed,
Speaker 2: and SpongeBob just shoves the ski pole through his like
Speaker 2: paralyzed hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, us say yes, Squidword gets like his full a
Speaker 1: full body cast and yeah the spongebobs he jams a
Speaker 1: jelly fishing rod.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what to think of skiing, but
Speaker 2: that we could get over you, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, hmm okay, yeah, I mean here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: feel like all of this stuff it's like figure out able,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, could you there's some
Speaker 1: the you could have various like attachments. You could they
Speaker 1: could make you like a Swiss army hand or something,
Speaker 1: and you could have a various attachments depending on what
Speaker 1: you were doing.
Speaker 2: That'sh it's expensive. So we went to the prostatic people
Speaker 2: and they said, like one process is twenty to one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand before insurance and like insurre, yeah exactly, and
Speaker 2: insurance like doesn't love covering it, so like you have
Speaker 2: to like keep sending it in and like they want
Speaker 2: me to. They don't accept the right away. They want
Speaker 2: me to like write like a sad peather like kill
Speaker 2: them in covering it or something.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, they want you to write a letter? What
Speaker 1: is that?
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, So they said, like, okay, so let's say
Speaker 2: we send in the claim they deny it. They want
Speaker 2: me to say, like my name is Griffin, I can't,
Speaker 2: I can't do this, this this I'm so sad basically,
Speaker 2: and then send it in and then they'll like see
Speaker 2: if they can give us more money, like if the
Speaker 2: insurance were actually covered or not.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's so fucked up. They're they're literally asking you
Speaker 1: to beg.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Well insurance is just fucked, like all types
Speaker 2: of insurances kind of fucked.
Speaker 1: So yeah. I recently, this has been coming up on
Speaker 1: my TikTok feed a lot recently. It's that clip from
Speaker 1: The Incredibles where he has to deny that woman's insurance
Speaker 1: claim because like none of us what the fuck was
Speaker 1: going on when we were like seven and watch that movie.
Speaker 1: But now nowadays, now you're like, oh, man, that was
Speaker 1: fucked up. How they made him do that? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, and then his boss comes in and then
Speaker 2: it gets all mad at him, like a fucking little
Speaker 2: guy with glasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So I'm okay, I'm curious about this. How
Speaker 1: did your friends react when you first told them that
Speaker 1: you you don't have an arm?
Speaker 2: They were like it was honestly, like they were too sympathetic,
Speaker 2: Like I didn't really Like I feel like I didn't
Speaker 2: deserve the sympathy because I did it to myself. So
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I'm so sorry for you. I feel
Speaker 2: so bad for you. What can I do? And like
Speaker 2: that's all I keep hearing, and like everyone wants to
Speaker 2: help me do like open a fucking water bottle, like
Speaker 2: I could open a lot of about one hand, like
Speaker 2: they want to do it for me, or like I
Speaker 2: could put my fucking jacket on, but they just want
Speaker 2: to do it for me. And it's just I don't
Speaker 2: know that part is the only but I just I
Speaker 2: understand it. I'm glad I have the support, but for
Speaker 2: the most part, like, well, a couple of friends were
Speaker 2: like a little more like not that I deserve it,
Speaker 2: but like, what, you're stupid? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Do you are which which friends are you close? Like
Speaker 1: you're really really close friends. Were they more like you're
Speaker 1: stupid for doing that?
Speaker 2: No, honestly, no, it was opposite, like I feel like
Speaker 2: the people I didn't really know, like, are you stupid?
Speaker 2: All my close friends are really supportive.
Speaker 1: That's good, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, How now that it's been two weeks, are are
Speaker 1: people still supportive?
Speaker 2: Oh? For sure? For sure? I mean less and less,
Speaker 2: and like the surgeon said, I mean he said, is
Speaker 2: he's like the first week or two a month, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be you're gonna see a ton of people. They're all
Speaker 2: going to be helping you. And then when we have
Speaker 2: a we have appointments, guys, we weekly, he said, Like
Speaker 2: in a couple of months, it's just gonna be you
Speaker 2: and your mom leave me right, I love you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your mom? Your dog's going crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh my, he's a fucking annoying And I think
Speaker 2: he's racist too.
Speaker 1: Why do you think your dog is racist.
Speaker 2: So the first week I came home from the hospital,
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of friends over. Okay, he'll barking
Speaker 2: them for a little bit and stop my one light
Speaker 2: skin buddy, who's a little I mean a little dark
Speaker 2: skin compared to light skins. I guess he just not
Speaker 2: stop barked at him, Like he walked around when he
Speaker 2: was on the couch, stared at him and just kept barking.
Speaker 2: It would not stop.
Speaker 1: That's fucked up. You should teach your dog to be uh,
Speaker 1: to be more sensitive.
Speaker 2: I'm trying. I mean, I don't know. They don't give
Speaker 2: like they'll make dogs send three training videos.
Speaker 1: They're like, what bring what breed is your dog?
Speaker 2: He? I don't know if I can say it, he's
Speaker 2: a blue tick hound. I'll say that part.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, why do you what dog name? Can
Speaker 1: you not say?
Speaker 2: I don't want to get clipped. My friends say it's
Speaker 2: it's a blue tick coon hound, is what he is? Oh? Okay,
Speaker 2: that yeah, that third word. I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: Geck bluss All right, well, well it's okay, So your mom,
Speaker 1: how's your what's what's to do with your mom? It
Speaker 1: sounds like your mom is very supportive.
Speaker 2: She is, but she's like it's kind of overbearing, and
Speaker 2: I mean she knows it, but it's nice. I don't
Speaker 2: know how else to describe it. She's just a constant everything,
Speaker 2: Like everywhere I go she's with me, and it's just constant.
Speaker 2: It's not great, but I mean I love her. Of course.
Speaker 1: So was your mom overbearing? Would you have described your
Speaker 1: mom as overbearing before the thing happened with your hands?
Speaker 2: Definitely? Not?
Speaker 1: No, no, really, so she only became overbearing after the
Speaker 1: in the past.
Speaker 2: Two weeks, I'd say, so, yeah.
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, I mean, look, I don't I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not you, but this seems like
Speaker 1: warranted bearing.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, I agree, definitely. It's just it's a lot.
Speaker 2: It's just a lot of stuff and a lot to
Speaker 2: think about. Like today, I had like an eye appointment
Speaker 2: that lasted like two almost two and a half hours,
Speaker 2: and it's just a lot of shit. Like yesterday I
Speaker 2: had three points, I was, I was out of the
Speaker 2: house from eleven to six, and it's like it's a lot.
Speaker 2: So then when she's overbearing two it's just it's hard
Speaker 2: like mentally, you know, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I'll ask you this quite. I mean, I suppose I
Speaker 1: have more questions, but I'll just ask you this up front.
Speaker 1: Is there any like what other aspects of this do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, do you
Speaker 2: have any other questions? I'm trying to think of something
Speaker 2: that I could talk about.
Speaker 1: Let's see, all right, I have a crazy question, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's fucked up. Maybe it's fucked up. It might
Speaker 1: be fucked up, but I'm gonna ask it to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have there been any pros of blowing your arm off? Oh?
Speaker 2: My god, that's not getting gifted food? Like we have
Speaker 2: our fridge is full of food for like my mom's
Speaker 2: like friends and shit. So like that's that's a positive,
Speaker 2: i'd say. Otherwise, Oh, and like finally getting I will
Speaker 2: work because I don't love my job, so it's nice
Speaker 2: to have a little like stay on vacation, So if
Speaker 2: you could call that a positive. But negatives like I
Speaker 2: can't I can't play video games. There's another one. I
Speaker 2: can't play video games right now. I love first person shooters,
Speaker 2: so I can't. I can't use them mountains?
Speaker 1: Mmm can they not? So like is there? Uh, by
Speaker 1: the way, I'll just say this about the food thing
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, tragedy does bring with it, ah, really
Speaker 1: it does bring good food with it. Like I when
Speaker 1: I was in high school, I had the friend of
Speaker 1: mine passed away, but at his shiva, they're they just
Speaker 1: had the best chicken tenders have ever eaten.
Speaker 2: Yeah just no, no, no, So I haven't had Jewish
Speaker 2: food in a while, like really good. So I never
Speaker 2: knew this was a thing. But bat Mitzus like bar
Speaker 2: Mitzo's for girls and those were even a thing, and
Speaker 2: I went to one. Oh my god, I wish it
Speaker 2: was Jewish because their food is so some of their.
Speaker 1: Food so it is, it's really good. I'm actually I
Speaker 1: gotta say those chicken tenders were so good that I'm
Speaker 1: actually waged. I kind of hope another one of my
Speaker 1: friends dies so that that's crazy.
Speaker 2: No what but or would the chicken tenders Jewish at all?
Speaker 1: Or they were just they were just regular chicken tenders
Speaker 1: there they the koshers though, they were really good. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Wait what what did what Jewish food did you have
Speaker 1: at the bout Metzva?
Speaker 2: Fucking Okay, So it was like this dessert but kind
Speaker 2: of was like crispy noodle ish type thing. I don't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck it's called. There's so many like
Speaker 2: and they have like long ass names for no reason,
Speaker 2: like panic cocaine or something like that.
Speaker 1: Wait, I've never heard of any Jewish food called panic cockin?
Speaker 2: Is that food? I don't know? If I'm just speaking
Speaker 2: out of my ass.
Speaker 1: You might what's what? What is it? What would describe
Speaker 1: the food to me? Is that soup?
Speaker 2: No? No, it's I thought it was a dessert like
Speaker 2: assert like with like crispy shit on top and like
Speaker 2: panic cotton. What was that?
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound No, not pan cotta.
Speaker 2: No, not panic cotton. I something cocin or maybe not
Speaker 2: maybe ship. Let me let me, uh, let me look
Speaker 2: up some Jewish here, give.
Speaker 1: Me one second. You know, it's okay, we don't have
Speaker 1: to google this, but uh all right anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: so you got what's the best sympathy food that you've gotten?
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. Hmm. Okay, So I like
Speaker 2: so I like lazagna. So this leggy about lazagna. But
Speaker 2: it was vegetarian lasagna. But it was pretty pretty good.
Speaker 2: It had like spinach shit in there. But the salad
Speaker 2: she made it was a caesar salad, but it was
Speaker 2: all like shredded and cut up. I hate like eating
Speaker 2: Caesar salad and having all the big ass leap So
Speaker 2: that was really good. I don't know. There's this Mexican
Speaker 2: place called Lacacia, Like I don't know if they're chain
Speaker 2: or not, but that was pretty good too.
Speaker 1: So you said that one of the bummers is that
Speaker 1: you can't play video games. Is there not like some
Speaker 1: kind of uh like, is there not some kind of
Speaker 1: prosthetic that will allow you to play video games? Or
Speaker 1: is that? Is it kind of too complex because you
Speaker 1: need fingers and ship.
Speaker 2: Well, there's like there's like one handed keyboards and shit
Speaker 2: you can use. It's more like like stuff that other
Speaker 2: people can use, Like you don't need to have a
Speaker 2: missing hand. But like I want to get like an
Speaker 2: electric like an electric hand that like you can move
Speaker 2: all the fingers individually, but those are like more expensive,
Speaker 2: or at least my place doesn't have them like that
Speaker 2: you can move all the fingers individually. So like there's
Speaker 2: more like accessibility stuff where like I could get like
Speaker 2: foot pedals and use those as an aim and shoot
Speaker 2: and just use my left hand on the keyboard, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense. But there's not really anything I can do.
Speaker 2: Like there's a couple like like one handed, but like
Speaker 2: that's just too much and it's like a keyboard on
Speaker 2: the mouse or something like that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's a bummer that ship is so expensive.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, you could play like I feel
Speaker 1: like you could get really into driving games like one hand,
Speaker 1: like one hand on that little steering wheel and then
Speaker 1: the other one on the U on the pedal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was. I was just playing a lot
Speaker 2: F one. But like I have a control I do.
Speaker 2: I gotta get the pedals and ship in a wheel
Speaker 2: because like I play, you know control, you need the
Speaker 2: right finger to hit the accelerator s like that. But
Speaker 2: I can play like point in click games like Cana
Speaker 2: Segalum and ship like that like among us.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What other questions do I have for you? Oh?
Speaker 1: What's to deal with your dad? Are you and your
Speaker 1: dad cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh not really. No, He's like he's around, but
Speaker 2: he's not around, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Did he at least like say what's
Speaker 1: up when your arm was blown off?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He came to the hospital. I think I don't
Speaker 2: know if he was there the first name, but he
Speaker 2: came like the second quick, like he'll he stop into
Speaker 2: like not even five minutes and then his leave.
Speaker 1: So do you like get to talk to him at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did, Like, so we got we got home
Speaker 2: from the hospital, and I think it was was it
Speaker 2: the same day, Jake, when the police showed up? It was, yeah,
Speaker 2: same day, three cop cars. So now I'll say this,
Speaker 2: so let me let me go back a little bit
Speaker 2: in the past. So I when I when when the
Speaker 2: thing blew up? Let me explain it. So I like
Speaker 2: ran outside until my buddy like, hey follow me, And
Speaker 2: I didn't realized I was missing my hand so like,
Speaker 2: and I was kind of like half blind. So I
Speaker 2: like walked into my mom's car, walked in my brother's car,
Speaker 2: and I got blood all over them. Walked to the
Speaker 2: neighbor across the street's house. His wife has like I
Speaker 2: feel bad for laughing at this, but like terminal cancer.
Speaker 2: So he couldn't look answer the door. So I got
Speaker 2: blood over his door or like his steps, and I
Speaker 2: ran across the street to the neighbors. They have four
Speaker 2: and I looked like I could see now pretty good.
Speaker 2: I saw they had four cars. In the driveway. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: someone's got to be home, right. I'm banging on the
Speaker 2: door with my good hand, dripping blood all over the place,
Speaker 2: and I see someone like look through the window at me,
Speaker 2: and no one hitswered the fucking door. And then I
Speaker 2: go to the next house over and the guys went
Speaker 2: outside and he helped me out try to like put
Speaker 2: a turn cat on it. And then the ambulance pulled
Speaker 2: up and I'm in the back of the indlance like
Speaker 2: five ten minutes sitting there because they were trying to
Speaker 2: put a turn cait like on the top like on
Speaker 2: my shoulder, part of my arm into my hand like
Speaker 2: next to my hand, like arguing with them. And then
Speaker 2: the fucking detective was asking questions or a police officer was,
Speaker 2: so I guess they thought that I was making illegal
Speaker 2: bombs in like the house. So anyways, now back to
Speaker 2: current time or like last week. So we get home
Speaker 2: from the hospital. Three police cars show up in front
Speaker 2: of our house. Six like police women surround the house
Speaker 2: and like I opened the door and like when it
Speaker 2: what's up? And my dad hasn't a warrant up first
Speaker 2: arrest for like a d W I.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't so this was this was this was uh,
Speaker 1: after you blew your hand off?
Speaker 2: Yes, this was after he blew my hand off the
Speaker 2: week like the week following, so he wasn't home, so okay,
Speaker 2: And like I guess they felt bad bothering, you know,
Speaker 2: the one handed man. So they went back to their
Speaker 2: cars and drove off pretty quick, and they hadn't came
Speaker 2: back yet, but he said he was gonna try so
Speaker 2: like a couple of days ago, and he's he hadn't
Speaker 2: came home to day so they might have got him,
Speaker 2: but like, I don't know, he's a whole fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Like he's yeah, so you the FEDS thought that you
Speaker 1: were making explosives in your room because of the hand thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I guess it's a common thing, like because
Speaker 2: even today I went to a REDNA specialist because they
Speaker 2: thought that they might have like torn like parts of
Speaker 2: my REDNA. And the doctor asked me, like what happened,
Speaker 2: and I told him, And I didn't tell him it
Speaker 2: was a firework. I just said it was an explosion.
Speaker 2: So he's like, oh, like I get multi good tons
Speaker 2: of patients are amateur bomb makers. I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: I don't know there was a.
Speaker 1: I get tons of patients who are amateur bomb makers.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and kind of a red flag, I guess
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I guess so once the people are making
Speaker 2: too many bombs because fireworks are illegal or certain fireworks
Speaker 2: are illegal here, like we have to go like to
Speaker 2: Wisconsin to buyer fireworks.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Yeah, I have to ask, uh, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about that law? Now? Are you like that's a
Speaker 1: pretty good law.
Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty good law. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: like all fireworks but like mortars and ship. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I will I believe me. I will never be like
Speaker 2: lighting or go near fires Fourth of July. I'll be
Speaker 2: in like my basement with like ear muf song and ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was gonna okay, so I was gonna ask you,
Speaker 1: uh after that, like what's your relationship, like your relationship
Speaker 1: with fireworks now? Like are you no?
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, no, I'm definitely a We'll see, Like I
Speaker 2: don't know if I have PTSD from it, but like
Speaker 2: I remember a time when I was younger and we
Speaker 2: went over to our like friends party and they have
Speaker 2: like a little alley way and they let off a
Speaker 2: sparkler bomb. I don't know if you have ever seen sparkler bombs,
Speaker 2: but they're really big and like loud and like a
Speaker 2: big flash. And someone who served in like a rack
Speaker 2: he has he has he like jumped over a cable
Speaker 2: at drinks and like kid behind it and shit. So
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be like that or not.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, Griffin, you are you are handling this
Speaker 1: uh extraordinarily well. I mean if I were you, I
Speaker 1: would I would not be able to be in such
Speaker 1: uh high spirits as you are. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're putting on a front, but you you
Speaker 1: definitely well, you know, it seems like you're you're you're
Speaker 1: taking this well.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to be happy, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I don't I'm not trying to think about it.
Speaker 2: Like when when I was at the surgeon the other
Speaker 2: day and he took off the wrap and I didn't
Speaker 2: really want to look at it because it felt it
Speaker 2: felt more real now, Like that's why I kind of
Speaker 2: didn't want to go home to the hospital, because once
Speaker 2: I'm home, it's real, like shit, I have no hand,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's been tough but
Speaker 2: like I said, I don't see a point in like
Speaker 2: moping about it. You know, I've never been like I mean,
Speaker 2: I've been sad, like recently, one of my best and
Speaker 2: just died too, and I was like, I wasn't happy
Speaker 2: before that either. So I'm trying to, you know, find
Speaker 2: reasons to want to live and you know, keep going.
Speaker 2: So of course I'm gonna be upbeat and like happy,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna try. I'm not going to give up
Speaker 2: on this ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hm, Well, god, damn Griffin. Thanks for thanks
Speaker 1: for joking around with me. Sorry if I said anything.
Speaker 2: Uh, my friends called me fucking lefty now, so you're fine.
Speaker 1: Your friends call you lefty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey this guy, this guy voted for Bernie. Huh he's
Speaker 1: only got his left hands exactly.
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, you're good. No, we had a good conversation.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I could talk to someone like. I haven't
Speaker 2: talked to a therapist, a therapist therapist yet. I know
Speaker 2: obviously you're not a therapist, but it's just nice talking
Speaker 2: to someone getting you know, like everything out, Griffin.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer or or or any other
Speaker 1: aspect of this that you want to get into or
Speaker 1: any of that before we go.
Speaker 2: I think all I gotta say is thanks for listening. Also,
Speaker 2: you should add, like on Twitch, you should have a
Speaker 2: vote thing where if a call is going really boring
Speaker 2: and you don't want to be rude, just have a
Speaker 2: vote thing like, hey, should we continue this call and
Speaker 2: then have a vote yes or no? Because some some
Speaker 2: of the calls are a little I don't know, I
Speaker 2: feel they're not that entertaining.
Speaker 1: See I hear. Well, Okay, Well, a couple of things.
Speaker 1: First of all is the chat does not get to
Speaker 1: decide whether or not I have a call like they Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm the judge, jury, and executioner on whether
Speaker 1: or not I decide I want to take a phone call.
Speaker 1: So okay, Really I don't want to give a the
Speaker 1: chat the option to do that. And second of all,
Speaker 1: I don't know how would you feel if you got
Speaker 1: if you got voted out?
Speaker 2: I would I'm pretty mad, honestly.
Speaker 1: But be pretty mad.
Speaker 2: But I feel like my card is a little more important.
Speaker 1: Well hey, you know what, that's another uh pro of
Speaker 1: blowing your hand off is you get you get to
Speaker 1: be better than everyone else.
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah, dude, I'm telling you, if I join
Speaker 2: that special Olympics teme, you'll see me. I'll send you
Speaker 2: a video and me just kicking ass in the two one.
Speaker 2: We'll see. But yeah, thanks for calling, Thanks for calling me. Yo,
Speaker 2: I'll send you. I'll send you a picture of me
Speaker 2: on on Insta, just of me no hand like punching
Speaker 2: the air.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'll take yeah, send if text text
Speaker 1: to the stump to the actually you know, I'll just
Speaker 1: do it. Can you can you send me a text?
Speaker 1: This is how we'll end it. Can you send me
Speaker 1: a text right now to the same number that this
Speaker 1: number that you're on the phone with of of the stump?
Speaker 1: I want, I want to I'll want to react to
Speaker 1: the stump.
Speaker 2: It's it's wrapped up right now. Is that's fine?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? Sure? I mean, do you have a picture
Speaker 1: of it unwrapped?
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, it's it's open wounded. So I'll
Speaker 2: just a pictures wrap.
Speaker 1: All right, Send me whatever you got. I'll live react
Speaker 1: to whatever you got real quick. Ok okay, all right, chat?
Speaker 1: Do you have any questions for Griffin that I can
Speaker 1: ask him? While while I live react to this. Someone
Speaker 1: asked if you if you're still in pain?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, the pain is fucking horrible, like nothing I've
Speaker 2: ever felt before.
Speaker 1: Like every day, yeah, every day, every day. Do you
Speaker 1: feel Are you in pain right now?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I definitely need some pain.
Speaker 1: Then, h did you send me?
Speaker 2: I sent you for now one. I have one where
Speaker 2: I did have just a stump, and I have one
Speaker 2: where i'm the good thing about the good thing about
Speaker 2: the stump is I can like with the hook, I
Speaker 2: can hold toilet paper in my like on my hook.
Speaker 2: It's just like a mobile toilet paper. Older.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, did you did you send it to me? Uh?
Speaker 1: Just now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh and oh I got it. Oh I got it.
Speaker 1: I got it. Oh my, oh my goodness, oh my god.
Speaker 1: This is like something for this is that's crazy. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I thought this live reaction would be
Speaker 1: good audio content. It's just me saying, damn, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought that would be of
Speaker 1: any amount of entertainment value. What there's this way? Hold on?
Speaker 1: Why what's this picture of you holding a roll of
Speaker 1: toilet paper?
Speaker 2: That's the hook? So the hook is it's a mobile
Speaker 2: toilet paper holder.
Speaker 1: This fucking doctor you went too was like, hey, so
Speaker 1: those hooks cost twenty thousand dollars. You just want a
Speaker 1: toilet paper roll.
Speaker 2: That's not no, that's not I basically but no. I
Speaker 2: mean he's well, so like when we were in that hospital,
Speaker 2: like he was saying, he's to make something special for us,
Speaker 2: like temporary, like temporary device, so we make something three
Speaker 2: D print something or something. But he just broke. He
Speaker 2: cut open, he cut metal coat hanger and just attached
Speaker 2: to my numb.
Speaker 1: How do you wipe your ass?
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I just do it left handed now,
Speaker 2: but I do. Okay, Now, I don't know how much
Speaker 2: do it, but I do. I do. I'm seated more
Speaker 2: towards the back of the toilet and I reach in front.
Speaker 2: I hold up well, I used to hold up my
Speaker 2: balls with my left hand, but I can't do that now.
Speaker 2: So I just wipe and I pulled. I pulled. I'm
Speaker 2: a polar. I pulled towards.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so well, now can't you just can
Speaker 1: you kind of like hook your balls and like pull
Speaker 1: them up with the hook and then use your left
Speaker 1: hand to wipe your ass.
Speaker 2: I could, I could, but they said that they want
Speaker 2: like what.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because the hook is like perfectly
Speaker 1: shaped to push your pole. Well what did they say?
Speaker 1: What did that? What did the doctors say?
Speaker 2: He wants it more elevated? So I can't really be
Speaker 2: taking down there with the hook, but I mean I
Speaker 2: probably could now since it's the hooks over you. So
Speaker 2: now the hook's attached, I have this little like thing
Speaker 2: that's bell can slap the hook on. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: But all right, I have one more question. And people
Speaker 1: are gonna think. People are gonna think this is gross.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care. I don't all right,
Speaker 1: I'm a human being. I'm gonna ask this question, all right,
Speaker 1: and and and I'm all right, I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 1: Do you you ever wipe? You ever scratch your ass
Speaker 1: and then smell your finger?
Speaker 2: Okay, in the past I had done that. I have
Speaker 2: not done I can't remember the last time I've done that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if you've ever scratched, if you've
Speaker 1: ever scratched your ass with the hook and smell with
Speaker 1: the hook, and if that smells different, have you done that?
Speaker 1: Have I have I scratched my ass and sniffed it,
Speaker 1: of course, every one hand.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, how do you yours? Now? I want
Speaker 2: to full detail so I can think about it like
Speaker 2: you do you. I've heard more people sit forward towards
Speaker 2: the front of the toilet and then reach behind the
Speaker 2: white you grass, Do you do that or you're more
Speaker 2: of a front guy?
Speaker 1: There was a large did you. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you heard that, but there was a large God intercepted
Speaker 1: our phone call with a fucking a little explosion to
Speaker 1: wareness that we're talking. We're talking naughty here. Shit? Was
Speaker 1: I going to say? How do I wipe my ass?
Speaker 1: I lift up my balls with my left hands and
Speaker 1: then I wipe it with my right hand exactly.
Speaker 2: And my friends called me weird for doing that. You
Speaker 2: could because they sit at the front of the toilet
Speaker 2: like uncomfortable as hell and wipe from behind. Like. I
Speaker 2: don't got that much time. I want to be comfortable,
Speaker 2: want to sit back and relax, And I don't know,
Speaker 2: And I feel like it's a bigger fellow of yourself
Speaker 2: that you would probably sit back to and just look
Speaker 2: up your balls.
Speaker 1: Oh that's another pre of cutting off your hand. You've
Speaker 1: lost weight, That's true.
Speaker 2: That's true. I did lose weight, but I actually gained
Speaker 2: some weight in the hospitals, so I feel good. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to gain weight actually because that well, I'm one ninety,
Speaker 2: like six' three one. Ninety i'm trying to get up there. Muscular, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Damn do you WEIGH i weigh more than, you And
Speaker 1: i'm about a entire foot. Shorter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, WELL i mean that's that's two. Things like it
Speaker 2: is that on you or that on? ME i don't.
Speaker 2: Know i'm not here to call people fat or shame.
Speaker 1: Them that's on. ME i need to cut off one
Speaker 1: of my. GYM i would reach my FITNESS i would
Speaker 1: reach my fitness kulls much much quicker Doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's, True and you could become one of those
Speaker 2: handy capable people that like have seen that where they
Speaker 2: like poor poleeps in their eyes be blind or they
Speaker 2: like off their hand so they're like. Disabled, dude you
Speaker 2: should do.
Speaker 1: That you should walk around telling people you just did
Speaker 1: it on purpose because you were sick of Your.
Speaker 2: No that's that's worse because then you'll not LIKE i,
Speaker 2: SAID i, said didn't like the, sympathy BUT i kind
Speaker 2: of like the sympathy.
Speaker 1: Like by the, way by the, way by the, way
Speaker 1: by the. WAY i want it just as as as
Speaker 1: a CAN i say this to, you just as a
Speaker 1: fake gecko. THERAPIST i want you. TO i want to
Speaker 1: tell you. Something don't feel bad about liking the. Sympathy
Speaker 1: don't feel bad about liking the. Sympathy look, something something
Speaker 1: terrible happened to. You fucking lap it, up all? Right
Speaker 1: what's wrong with a little lap lap it up a little?
Speaker 1: Bit why? Not why? Not, okay might as, well might as.
Speaker 1: Well don't feel bad about, it all, right don't feel
Speaker 1: bad about. It you don't have a fucking. Hand you
Speaker 1: should let people feel sorry for. You lap it? Up why?
Speaker 2: Not you're, right that makes.
Speaker 1: Sense don't don't.
Speaker 2: TALK i don't Want i'm not making it like some
Speaker 2: of my. Friends like one of our friends wasn't trying
Speaker 2: to play a game with, us And i'm, like, oh
Speaker 2: you will play with a little poor one handed, man
Speaker 2: the lonely one handed man he could find the like
Speaker 2: he got on the game with. Us BUT i won't
Speaker 2: be doing that like outside of my. House BUT i.
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't don't let it get to your. Head but,
Speaker 1: yeah for, sure you, know for, sure lapping up a little,
Speaker 1: bit not not don't do anything, crazy don't don't like
Speaker 1: make a Long facebook post or. Anything but, uh.
Speaker 2: Dude you know HOW i said it was one, Hindy
Speaker 2: SO i took a. SHIP i took a ship before this.
Speaker 2: CALL i just waited. MYSELF i one eighty.
Speaker 1: Seven, DAMN i think that's our que.
Speaker 2: Leave, okay thanks for the, call.
Speaker 1: And thanks for Calling. Griffin good luck to.
Speaker 2: You, yeah good luck to.
Speaker 1: You, thanks take, care mam. Bye it is a pretty
Speaker 1: wild looking, stump And i've also done my FAIR i it's.
Speaker 1: Fun i'll get excited in the. Morning in the, MORNING
Speaker 1: i get excited WHEN i take a bit Because i'm like.
Speaker 1: Trying i'm trying to lose. Weight so in the MORNING
Speaker 1: i get excited WHEN i take a big ship Because i'm,
Speaker 1: like oh my, GOD i probably my body's so empty right.
Speaker 1: Now i'm probably lost a lot of weight on loot doing.
Speaker 1: That all, Right, well, thanks thanks for listening to this
Speaker 1: dumb ass. Podcast, dude all, right thanks thanks for Calling. Griffin,
Speaker 1: yah bless. You, Hello hi, there what's your?
Speaker 3: Name I'm, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Kentucky how old are You? KENTUCKY i am twenty?
Speaker 3: Six Nice, YES i live In, Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Tennessee mentioned at the Beginning, kentucky a trans man living In, Chattanooga. Tennessee,
Speaker 1: well what's going, on? Dog how CAN i get you to?
Speaker 3: This, WELL i wanted to talk to you About i've
Speaker 3: dreamed about being a tattoo artist for a really long.
Speaker 3: Time been working on my art and stuff my whole.
Speaker 3: Life it's been like the only thing THAT i really
Speaker 3: care about that. Deeply it's like affected like my relationships
Speaker 3: with other people and stuff Because i'm just so like
Speaker 3: one track mind about, IT i. Guess BUT i, recently
Speaker 3: like last, SUMMER i started a tattoo apprenticeship at a
Speaker 3: shop that ended up being a really bad. Environment AND
Speaker 3: i kind of knew going into it BECAUSE i didn't
Speaker 3: really like my mentor AND i knew he didn't really like,
Speaker 3: me BUT i just wanted to do it so. BAD
Speaker 3: i was like kind of willing to put up with.
Speaker 3: IT i should have. Known like he like literally goes
Speaker 3: by Like Captain. Devious but, yeah, no like he like
Speaker 3: legally changed his name to.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait he's like on his driver's license it Says Captain. Deus,
Speaker 1: yeah that's. Sweet that's, awesome what's this? Guy, Like, well
Speaker 1: tell me more ABOUT i want to hear more About captain.
Speaker 3: Devious, yeah crapt in cheesy shits he, LIKE i don't,
Speaker 3: know he, Like oh my, god he is like a textbook.
Speaker 3: Narcissist everything he says is fact. Correct if you disagree
Speaker 3: with him or inconvenience him at, all it's gonna be
Speaker 3: like there's a price.
Speaker 1: To, pay very.
Speaker 3: Angry man Loves, yeah he Loves facebook. Drama he loves
Speaker 3: like oh, man all the local cops hate him because
Speaker 3: he calls him for no good, reason just whenever he's
Speaker 3: piste off it, Dude, like, uh it was just. Terrible
Speaker 3: AND i found, out LIKE i don't, know there were
Speaker 3: some other apprentices at the. Shop we actually all walked
Speaker 3: out together at the end Of january.
Speaker 1: A mutiny on the.
Speaker 3: Captain absolutely like we left him with literally no one
Speaker 3: in his shop except for. Him. Wow, Yeah and UH
Speaker 3: i found out afterwards that like he was saying a
Speaker 3: lot of like really transfer stuff behind my back and
Speaker 3: calling me like mentally ill and. Stuff but he was
Speaker 3: using me to look better to the community so he
Speaker 3: could get queer people's. Money, still and like it was
Speaker 3: like a whole.
Speaker 1: Thing so all, Right, kentucky tell me what's. SO i, mean,
Speaker 1: look you texted me and you were, LIKE i had
Speaker 1: to give up on a dream of mine THAT i
Speaker 1: was passionate. About so are you have you given up
Speaker 1: on your tattooing?
Speaker 3: DREAM i don't, know, honestly BECAUSE i have been very
Speaker 3: much enlightened to how crazy the industry can, be And
Speaker 3: i'm a person that really values like my own.
Speaker 1: Peace it sounds like you've been enlightened to how, crazy
Speaker 1: Uh Captain devious can.
Speaker 2: Be, yeah that's.
Speaker 3: TRUE i don't. Know, yeah it's kind of left me
Speaker 3: with just like a whole, LIKE i don't, Know i'm
Speaker 3: just kind of like feeling burnt out on the whole.
Speaker 3: Thing it's not necessarily THAT i want to give, up
Speaker 3: BUT i just don't know if it's like right for.
Speaker 1: Me why don't? You so this was the for how
Speaker 1: old are?
Speaker 2: You twenty?
Speaker 1: Six and this is the first time you've gone into
Speaker 1: a studio to do.
Speaker 3: This, yeah this is the first studio that would take me.
Speaker 1: On, okay why so why not join another?
Speaker 3: Studio it's hard to find a studio that is like,
Speaker 3: willing like an artist that's willing to take on an,
Speaker 3: Apprentice like finding an apprenticeship is often like one of
Speaker 3: the hardest parts about like the tattooing industry as a.
Speaker 3: Whole it's kind of like notoriously, difficult which is WHY
Speaker 3: i was willing to put up with, that BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: have friends that are in the, industry and they've all told, me,
Speaker 3: like it's going to be like a lot of like scrubbing,
Speaker 3: floors scrubbing, toilets, cleaning constantly being there. UNPAID i was
Speaker 3: there nearly fifty hours a week, unpaid had to work
Speaker 3: other jobs on top of, it And i'm just like
Speaker 3: Over like it's partially Like i'm burnt out on that
Speaker 3: side of, things but also just like financially and, PHYSICALLY
Speaker 3: i just can't be doing that.
Speaker 1: Anymore do you do you have another? Job?
Speaker 3: YEAH i work a couple other. JOBS i uh do
Speaker 3: the door at a cocktail, bar check id's and kick
Speaker 3: people out as they're being too rowdy kind of a.
Speaker 2: Thing tatoos.
Speaker 1: Shopping do you give tattoos to your like?
Speaker 3: Homies, no not not. NOW i did back in the,
Speaker 3: day like you, know like a little punk rock stick
Speaker 3: and poke party type. Beat, yeah but it's been a
Speaker 3: while Since i've been like a under the table tattoo
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i want to be.
Speaker 2: Legit do you do?
Speaker 1: You i'm gonna get A i'm gonna go a Real
Speaker 1: Gary vaynerchuck mode on you right. Now do you? Uh
Speaker 1: do You? Instagram do you?
Speaker 3: TikTok i am On. INSTAGRAM i don't like TikTok too
Speaker 3: much BECAUSE i don't like short form video content too,
Speaker 3: much just BECAUSE i, LIKE i don't like to sit
Speaker 3: and watch. THINGS i like putting things on in the
Speaker 3: background While i'm like drawing or doing other.
Speaker 1: Stuff, WELL i, MEAN i, MAN i mean so to,
Speaker 1: me the solution to this is to is to find
Speaker 1: a way to pave your own path. Forward AND i
Speaker 1: only know from my own experience that the way to
Speaker 1: do that is uh through using the internet to build
Speaker 1: your own clientele base to upont to. Tattoo you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah that is Something i'm very aware of THAT
Speaker 3: i get like kind of nervous, about like being known,
Speaker 3: ONLINE i guess because it is a kind of overwhelming.
Speaker 3: Thing i've seen it up. Into, actually my brother he
Speaker 3: was like a really good csgo, player had like a
Speaker 3: YouTube video and he got like millions of views on
Speaker 3: his like trick shot videos and, stuff and people like
Speaker 3: started to find out about like who he was in real,
Speaker 3: life and he like got scared and. Quit BUT i don't,
Speaker 3: know like watching that and watching how much anxiety it
Speaker 3: put him, through it's kind of like made me nervous
Speaker 3: about the whole. Thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, no it's a whole. Thing it's it's it's
Speaker 1: totally a whole. Thing But i'll But i'll. Listen i'll
Speaker 1: Say i'll say, This, okay how much do you want
Speaker 1: to be a tattoo?
Speaker 3: ARTIST i MEAN i was looking for an opportunity for
Speaker 3: five years before this last. ONE i REALLY i just
Speaker 3: want to make, art IS i think the, thing AND
Speaker 3: i was looking for a way to make it like
Speaker 3: financially viable and do something THAT i. DO i do
Speaker 3: really love, tattooing AND i.
Speaker 1: Love Like i'm just Gonna i'm gonna say. This i'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this to, You. Kentucky if you just want
Speaker 1: to make art and you want to have like you
Speaker 1: and you want to have like your thing that you
Speaker 1: do for money and and and separately you have your
Speaker 1: thing that you do for creative, fulfillment that is a totally,
Speaker 1: legitimate if not potentially even in some, Cases i've thought to,
Speaker 1: myself better way to live life then to make money
Speaker 1: off of your. Thing but and also also you can
Speaker 1: also have a great life making money off of your.
Speaker 1: Art but if you want to make money off of your,
Speaker 1: art you are going to have to get over putting
Speaker 1: yourself out. There you're gonna have to get over that
Speaker 1: fear of putting yourself out. There if that's what you,
Speaker 1: wanna that's what you want to.
Speaker 3: Do, no, ABSOLUTELY i needed to hear that from something
Speaker 3: other than inside my, brain because there's always that kind
Speaker 3: of like fight between like what you know you need
Speaker 3: to do and like what your like fear wants you to,
Speaker 3: do which is usually just grow up in a ball and.
Speaker 2: Die.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well because THAT'S i, mean that's the cool thing
Speaker 1: about The internet is that you can you don't have
Speaker 1: like if you just kind of build your own universe
Speaker 1: of arts and and, whatnot then you, know you you
Speaker 1: can you can build your own, world and you can
Speaker 1: become your Own Captain, devious and you can change your
Speaker 1: legal name to whatever the fuck you. Want hell, yeah
Speaker 1: So i'll say, that you. Know, SO i, mean THAT'S
Speaker 1: I i gotta. Say that's really ALL i have to.
Speaker 1: Say on the matter is is that you you got
Speaker 1: to get over your fear of putting yourself out, there
Speaker 1: not even just for, like OH i got to make,
Speaker 1: money but just it's just in general a good thing
Speaker 1: in life to, be you, know okay With, Yeah.
Speaker 3: No you're absolutely. Right AND i think it's LIKE i
Speaker 3: have no problem like talking to, people like especially like in,
Speaker 3: Person Like i'm not A i'm not a shy person
Speaker 3: by any, means BUT i think there's just like, that
Speaker 3: LIKE i feel weird about like a curated or like
Speaker 3: kind of like distilled like projection or like not coming
Speaker 3: across as authentic and then like being judged for.
Speaker 1: That you're afraid of not coming off as? Authentic, yeah
Speaker 1: why would you? Be why are you afraid of not
Speaker 1: coming off as? Authentic?
Speaker 3: UH i don't. KNOW i guess BECAUSE i am not
Speaker 3: like comfortable like in front of a camera or, like
Speaker 3: AND i feel LIKE i definitely overthink things BEFORE i post.
Speaker 3: THEM i don't just LIKE i don't mind myself just
Speaker 3: throw it, away you know WHAT i? Mean AND i
Speaker 3: feel LIKE i WISH i could just do that more
Speaker 3: comfortably BECAUSE i would feel a lot happier about WHAT
Speaker 3: i posted IF i didn't think about it too.
Speaker 1: MUCH i guess, yeah, YEAH i mean that's a whole
Speaker 1: other can of. Worms is, uh you know how MUCH
Speaker 1: i MEAN i think about stuff THAT i, post BUT
Speaker 1: i also don't want. TO i don't, KNOW i don't,
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't DON'T i, COULD i. COULD i could
Speaker 1: give a whole stupid masterclass in like social media, marketing
Speaker 1: but that would be. Boring let's the emotional aspect of,
Speaker 1: it the emotional aspect of, It and just All i'll
Speaker 1: say to you is THAT i think if you do,
Speaker 1: anything if you get anything out of this phone, CALL
Speaker 1: i hope it is that you get over your fear
Speaker 1: of putting yourself out, there because that's the key to
Speaker 1: never having to deal with The captain DVS's of the universe. Ever,
Speaker 1: again that's how you that's how you beat the Man.
Speaker 3: Kentucky, absolutely, Yeah, NO i have some like height driven
Speaker 3: gains to. Make, now.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we?
Speaker 3: Go if you love, something just, like keep doing it
Speaker 3: even if you feel like you need to change your,
Speaker 3: trajectory like, yeah, uh just don't give up on the
Speaker 3: things you're passionate. About BECAUSE i don't, Know like it's
Speaker 3: okay if it changes, form but like don't lose what
Speaker 3: like makes you.
Speaker 1: Happy unless if you're passionate about killing people and eating.
Speaker 3: Them, yeah or like stealing dogs from people's.
Speaker 1: Yards that sounds that's very. Specific did someone do that to?
Speaker 3: YOU i mean, no not to, me but it has
Speaker 3: happened like in my neighborhood. Recently it's just on the.
Speaker 1: Brain that's an interesting side. Hustle, actually ALTHOUGH i was
Speaker 1: talking to someone about this. Earlier dogs are a depreciating.
Speaker 3: Asset absolutely, no They're.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're expensive from the, jump and they only they.
Speaker 1: Only this is WHY i wouldn't buy a dog is
Speaker 1: it's it's too do. It it's not a good. Investment
Speaker 1: it only it depreciates the minute you take it off the.
Speaker 1: Lot like every year a dog gets, older it's worth
Speaker 1: less and. Less so you know that's WHY i would
Speaker 1: never buy a.
Speaker 3: Dog, yeah, absolutely, Yeah and that's why.
Speaker 1: Stealing if anyone's out there, listening who's thinking about stealing
Speaker 1: a dog from someone's yard to sell, it maybe that'll
Speaker 1: discourage them because there's beat you, could like stealing SOMEONE'S.
Speaker 1: Tv that makes, Sense but like a, dog it's only
Speaker 1: it's only gonna be worth less every every day it's worth.
Speaker 1: Less so don't. Don't don't steal people's dogs to sell.
Speaker 3: Them yeah, no and they will like piss on your
Speaker 3: ship and ruin everything that you.
Speaker 1: Love thanks for Calling, Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, Problem thanks for talking to.
Speaker 1: Me do not invest in. Dogs never can goes on
Speaker 1: the line taking your phone. Calls every Nine every beacon
Speaker 1: goes to its teaching you loud.
Speaker 3: In but he's not really an.
Speaker 1: Expert