WEBVTT - Star Wars: Maul – Shadow Lord S1E3 + E4 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.480 Warning. Today's episode candad spoilerst for episodes three and four 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:22.400 of Mall shadow Lord on Disney Plus. Hello, my name 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:23.200 is Jasonconcept. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.080 That was kind of more yeah. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:38.560 Yeah, he's more like. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.960 Like it's like a oh yes, it's me Rosie. N Yeah, 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:39.720 I was going and low. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.000 He's got like this weird like Quaver. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.240 He's definitely sounding old. He's got the Grandpa place. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:53.280 It's like a Vincent price, like a lower Vincent price. Anyway, 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.440 my name is Jasonconcept and I'm Rosie Night again and 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.320 welcome back to x Ravage of the podcast where we 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.520 dive deep with your faverit Joe's movies. We're coming to 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.680 reminding our podcast Where Will You three episodes. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.640 Plast News on Saturday is In today's episode, we are 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:13.000 recapping episodes one O three and one four of Darth 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.800 Maul shadow Lord, and we'll be bringing in super producer 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.200 Joel to talk a little bit about who's in the crew, 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.000 who are the characters, and where we're at four episodes 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.640 into Dave Filoni's newest Star Wars animated series. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.440 Let's talk about this. The first episode that we're discussing today, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.040 Mall shadow Lord one O three whispers in the unknown. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.399 Yes, so we are joining directly where we left off 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.920 under the two moons of janex we see that Devon 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.880 has escaped her rocky prison and rook Cast is searching 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.520 for her, but she finds More in the tunnels. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:55.480 Instead, More finds her and says, so you're beginning to 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.920 see things through a new perspective. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.280 And as the pair share some Cassio tea, a nice 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.120 nod to the rad young reader's book The Clone Wars Death, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.480 More Shadow Conspiracy. And you've seen that tea come up 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.359 many times since then if you read the extra texts. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.880 Mare tries to convince Devin that he has been misrepresented 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:13.960 and that really he's. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.080 Just as confused as she is about her fate. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.440 Despite him reminding her and us of his tragic backstory, 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.280 the betrayal of his master, the murder of his mother 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:23.000 and brother. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.359 Devin is unmoved bro. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.840 She is like, absolutely not working on me, and she 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.799 uses the force to take his double sided lightsaber into 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.240 her own hands. But that feistiness is something more can 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.880 work with. Back in the Exposition headquarters, I mean the 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.560 police headquarters, two boots he's licking both of them, and 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:45.640 Lawson are explaining Maul's connections to the galactic crime syndicates 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.560 for those who haven't watched the Star Wars animated property before. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.200 While Lawson continues to be inexplicably bad at policing, Devon 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.680 is wielding Maul's saber as he tries to tempt her 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.440 towards the dark side. Rook Casts, jealousy over Maul's new 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.760 would be apprentice, leads her to head out after the 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.079 next Pike shipment alone. Two boots in his cop robots 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.799 beat them there, but Casting her crew managed to escape, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.280 but they don't take the credits this time around, which 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:10.960 hails many questions. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.280 Just in case you. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:18.640 Were worried that Lawson might miss his son's space sports game, 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.400 a very important thing. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.400 I know he's worry about it. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.120 You were like, oh my godw could he not miss 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.400 sports lacrosse? 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.280 Like how could this happen in space? 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.360 But no, he makes it his son Riley, which, by 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.600 the way, guys, it's spelt Star Wars, so just so 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:35.080 you think that. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.640 He's not too normal, it's r y L E E, 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.040 which I think is so funny. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.520 But anyway, you know, Dad shows up and he's like, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:48.360 I'm here, don't worry, but then Devon's master Daky shows 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.760 up and the pair talk about Devin's capture and Lawson 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.760 inquires more after more, and ultimately he has to leave 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.920 his son's sports game Ollie to deal with the failed heist. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:00.400 Why is this a plot point? 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.960 Nobody knows, but Riley's very upset when he scores get 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.560 it. It feels very heat to me. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.680 So you you know, you know the deal when you 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.520 marry me, baby, you gotta share me with all the 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.040 bad people in the world. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.520 It really is like al Pacino, I've gotta leave dinner 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:19.240 thing and. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.200 Also heat, let's be real. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.320 He also as well he missed the heist right, which 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.440 leans into the heat of it all because they didn't 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:29.440 really see each other. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.080 So Maul speaks to. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:36.560 Devin deep under the the tunnels and he waxes lyrical 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.560 on the danger of the inquisitors. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.800 The life that Devon will have to lead is. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.400 A sol like solo Jedi on the Rum post Order 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.360 sixty six, though honestly we know there are a lot 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.239 of them out there. She is unconvinced and makes another 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.720 break for it. Lawson and two boots head to the 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.760 scene of the crime. We also learned that the reason 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:57.640 Lawson hates the Empire is because his wife was part 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:58.360 of the Empire. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.200 So it's not that he's like moral he objected to them. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.400 He's just a divorced hater and he hates He's just like, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.320 oh not my wife, the fucking bitch like I Coromba. Also, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.680 you married someone who turned into a Nazi, so that's 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:18.200 on usir, very confusing options there under the watchful eye 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.240 of rook Cast and her crew. We then see that 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.719 the little alien Varrio speaks to the leader of the 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.280 Pikes on a hologram. 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.960 Why is every criminal from New York? 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.080 I feel like they're trying their best to be like 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.560 less racist, but it's still coming across to me with 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:45.520 the same problems as previous representations of scheming Star Wars characters. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:47.479 But yes he is. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.240 He's like, hey, hey, it's me. I'm gonna betray Duff Mare. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:56.360 You know, I'm gonna eat a hot dog or and 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.520 Vario speaks to the leader of the Pikes and he's like, gonna, Clay, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:01.880 I'm gonna sell out more. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.400 I'm gonna make it up to you. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.080 And obviously we pull back and we see that they're 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.520 all watching and this is sort of a skit set up, 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:13.760 and then very interestingly, one of the conversations that we've 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.320 all had many times as fans they never imagine coming 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:17.360 to light in this way. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:18.360 I think we. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.880 Get some interesting stuff in this episode about the notion 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:26.000 of robots and their coding and and kind of agency, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:31.400 but it is through the lens of two Boots wanting 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:36.320 to snitch to the Empire Tears is desperate to snitch 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.919 is a I know, well, the two Boots is like 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:40.239 a cowboy out here. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:44.320 With this and this is actually now, I guess we've 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.080 seen stuff like this before in this in you know, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.000 C three po was always complaining about this and that 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.960 and wanted to go his own way, and R two 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.440 was also had was very very headstrong. But I don't 0:06:55.480 --> 0:07:03.359 think you've ever seen a droid go directly against what 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:10.720 it's human collaborator intended and even said like do that. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.920 He's told him no man before. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.920 No. I mean, I would say, like obviously, there's a 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.320 lot of conversation in the in the scene in the 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.600 fandom of the fifty year old Fantom of Star Wars 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.440 about how D two loved to keep a secret because he. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.120 Knew everything that happened. But other than that, you know, 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:26.360 he was trying to do his best. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.520 Maybe his brain was wipe depending on the law, but 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.640 like two boots basically just being like, bro, I need 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.000 to report this to the Empire, like come on, and 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.480 he's like, I just got a snitch to the Empire 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:37.360 about Darth Maul. 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.040 I'm like, this is when. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.880 He keeps saying too like, I think he'll I think 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.800 he'll appreciate it, like after I do it. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.800 Yeah, yeah, he'll come. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.520 He'll come around to it after I snitch on him. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.000 Crazy, crazy choice. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:58.160 Devin continues her like unofficial male training as they battle 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.960 it out with this double edged now you know, split 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.200 into two. It's a great action sequence. He is really 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.400 sassin her up. He's like, you're one of the lost Jedis. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.880 To survive, you need to explore it, like you need 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.960 to not be like the rest of the Jedis who 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.240 died after all, to sixty six and honestly, it's already 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.840 given abusive master student. I don't think he's gonna like 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:22.960 break that pattern here. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:29.120 I think my note to mal First of all, you know, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:34.480 it's like the the the mentor mentee, whether it's a 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.960 Jedi or the Sith and the way it relates to 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:45.200 like grooming is a little alarming. That said, Mall, I 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.280 think you're going I think it's too fast. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.120 Yes, you're talking himbout. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.560 The ideals you're telling like okay, that's you know, like 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:57.960 that's fine. But now you've immediately you're immediately dueling like 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:02.240 this is six hours in to meeting this person. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.920 Literally like coming in, I slow the role. You got 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.000 to seduce a bit more, my guy, Like we have 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.840 learned that. As Devin leaves that night at the end 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.040 of the episode, it's clear that Maul expects her to 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.000 return and continue their weird ass training. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:16.880 I'm not gonna lie. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.400 I would not if I was her, Like, I understand 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.599 that being a Jedi is annoying, but this guy is 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:26.400 not really giving me much more than you know, Daki 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.000 is giving me, unless you just have a thing for 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.160 like sexy Daddy Moore, which I also I know there's 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.400 a lot of you out there do and I respect that, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.000 so you know, sure, but. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.080 Otherwise I would not be returning for the training. But 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:40.520 let's come back after. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.960 An ad break and you can listen to the rest 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.520 of our recap of more Shadow Lord. 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.280 And we're back Marl's Shadow Lord, Pride and Vengeance. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:09.080 Oh who Yes, this is chapter four, in my opinion, 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.000 easily the best episode of the show. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.960 I think it goes. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.520 It elevates itself here and we start getting some really 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:19.880 meaty mall stuff. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.280 But it begins with Varrio on New York AA. It's me. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.080 They couldn't afford Billy Crystal, but they wish they could have. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.400 Barrio continues his vision to be the most hated alien 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.880 in all of the Middle Rim, taking credits to the 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:37.600 Pike as Maule's scheme for revenge, while More comes out blazing. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.160 It seems like he's taken out by Varrio and his 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.560 little stun gun and you're like, whoa, he betrayed him. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.280 I can't believe this with his tiny stun gun. Soon 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.320 the Pikes have taken More captive, clearly thinking they have 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.800 the upper hand. Unfortunately it's a trap within a trap. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.560 They got inceptioned as it was another Zabrac under the hood, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.319 one of the twin brothers that we'll talk about. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:06.000 One of the anonymous Zabracs who we have yet to 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:06.800 learn about us. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.679 Yes, and Joelle is very excited about those twins, so 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.000 she's gonna tell us about them later. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.000 It was Zabrak under the hood, and Moore was awaiting. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.720 Elsewhere in the shadows to kill his old ally, who 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:22.880 we learn abandoned him after mandalor so now once more 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:28.200 just kills this man, which he just does. He like, 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:33.400 you're dead, sorry, and everyone else in the pike syndicates like, okay, cool, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.000 we're in your shadow collective now more so the Shadow 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.800 Collective is beginning to shape up nicely for our red 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:40.800 headed monster man. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.479 Devon and Daki reunite. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.240 I mean, god damn, there's like it's so funny, how 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.360 bad the empire and just people, the cops in general 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.520 that now exist are at just catching Jedi just like 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.120 walking around. Devon and Daki reunite, and Devon is like, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:57.440 I want to stop more. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:58.680 And bring him to justice. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.120 Daki's like, I think, I just want to get revenge. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.360 So I guess such he's such a skull. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.160 He's not winning. He's not gonna get her to win. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:11.920 Liked looking like the most Jedi. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.560 He looks like a dinosaur Jedi. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:19.480 Like it's so inconspicuous, like my guy, I mean so conspicuous. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.920 But yeah, he he's like you are on. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.800 A quest for revenge. So that makes me think that 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.560 the reason Devin knows more is because she knows somebody 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.679 he killed, and we're gonna kind of get that somewhere 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.200 further dealing line, because I feel like that's where it 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.640 has to be going. Unfortunately, the only thing that too 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.440 powerful Jedi can conceive of doing in this situation is 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.440 go to the cops, which, again, guys, I just this 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.360 is a lack of imagination for me on a storytelling level. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.880 That just doesn't make sense. Think about the things that 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:52.480 Jedis have done before. You are just trying to investigate that. Yeah, 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.559 like to Space, they're starting entire fake like missions where 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.240 they're pretending to be Jedi, you know, people talk talking 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.680 to delegates, but they're not really meant to be there, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.880 Like we saw that during the Clone Wars, like we've 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.720 seen it so many. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:11.320 Missions, they would send two Jedis into an entire ship 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:17.280 of enemies to both negotiated deal and fight their way out. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.120 And now you're like, well, we gotta call the cops, right. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.720 That's the problem when you add something that is so 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.440 out of the world and the universe, you have to 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.520 start changing the parameters and I think you can really 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:29.920 feel that here. 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.840 But yes, so the Jedi are like, we better go 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:33.800 to the cops. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.920 So laws And heads over to the location that Daki 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.120 and Devin sent him. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.680 And he turns off two Boots on the way. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.360 Very crazy thing to do, and it is like, because 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.040 two Boots is very desperate to call the Empire, which 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.000 we get, don't do that, but I feel like turning 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.680 him off is not going to lead to the outcome 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.680 that you want because you're taking away the agency he 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.280 does have. And also it makes us in Joel's the 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.959 pitch that she did when we watched the first episode, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.960 this kind of notion of like Lawson maybe being a 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.760 dirty cop and he's hiding something, which I like and 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.160 that this choice leans into it. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.880 But I don't think that's what they're doing. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.320 I was honestly really hoping it would be that. Yeah, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:21.000 I watch it after the divorce revealed, it seems increasingly 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.880 unlike the fact that it's not that, and that Lawson's 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:32.320 only reason, apparently for not wanting the Empire involved, is 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.080 that I guess like his ex wife might chill up. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:40.560 I like, bro, they're nat He's like, come on, okay. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.720 So luckily you know, Lawson and his crew of cop 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.480 bots and cop cops because some real people die here too, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.160 and no. Two boots arrive at Darth Maul's very dark lair, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.720 and they instead find Barrio and a hologram of Maul, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:15:00.080 who tries to charm him with compliments and photorealism, revealing 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:04.080 that the whole crew is actually waiting for the Renegade cop. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.640 Of course, the O G Space Cops, the Jedi, Devon, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.360 and Deckie are waiting in the Shadows. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:09.960 Lawson doesn't take Moore's. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.440 Off of protection in exchange for not calling the Empire, 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.040 in which honestly sounds like a very good deal. Like 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:20.400 I don't really get good deal? Why you wouldn't take it? Because, remember, guys, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.600 Lawson doesn't know who Mare is, has no idea about 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.840 the Shadow Collective, doesn't really understand any of his history, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.960 so doesn't have a reason not to trust him or 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.480 think he's evil. His biggest thing is he doesn't want 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.240 the Jedi. I mean, he doesn't want the Empire to come. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:37.720 So this seems like a good deal for me. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.560 But fine. Moore finally meets Master Decie. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.760 Who thinks that more will take an offer to surrender pelacefully. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.240 Again the most old headed Jedi like. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:54.200 Come, Decie, go toward a sixty six to pastures, give 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.960 up the lightsaber, give us this is time, retire, go 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.280 to bed. Of course, More tries to play the Jedi's 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.520 arrogance as the trio talk ideologies, and ultimately it leads 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.800 to a pretty epic light saber battle between Moore and 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.760 Devon and Deckie. As the saber battle continues, More becomes 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.520 more frustrated, ultimately leading to Devon being able to save 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.520 her master and More allowing them to live after both 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.520 the Jedi and the Space Cops fail to pre apprehend him. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:25.520 Lawson finally somehow realizes Devon and Deckie are Jedi, which again, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.040 this man's job is a detective bro The first time 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.280 he met Dekie, Deckie was holding up a bridge with. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.760 The holding a bridge turned around to him and was like, 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.640 are you okay? But I guess he's. 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:42.080 Wearing the classic hood of a wearing a Jedi robe. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.760 And he's been following you the whole the bridge. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.360 This man, I swear to God, somebody dated what is 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.200 the clearance rate of crimes? 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:51.360 On? 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:55.960 This jenis like? Are we are we solving any crimes. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.160 No, this man does nothing apart them make sure the 0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:59.640 Empire does a come so he doesn't have to pay 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:08.640 his child support like the slow like Lawson is just like, hey, 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.800 you know what, you can leave. It's okay, I'm a cost, 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.880 but you can just leave and don't worry about more. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.919 We didn't catch him, but you know, I guess the 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:25.280 Empire is coming anyway because my boot lickor cop Bot 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.280 two bots has been reactivated and has become what he 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.720 always wanted to be a snitch for the Empire, who 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.840 arrive in a Superstar Destroyer ominously as always, as the 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.400 episode comes to an end, and we will be back 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.960 after a break to bring in super producer Joel to 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:45.440 talk about this episode, to talk about droids and agency versus. 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:50.640 Programming, and to find out more about Darth Maure's mysterious product. 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:06.400 I'm We're back. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.719 Welcome he Super Solos producer Joel. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:12.800 How's it going, Joe? How'd you fail off to these 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.480 two episodes? Vindicated? 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:15.280 We are back. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.640 We listen, Okay, I feel. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:18.960 Managing so far, so good? 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.040 But before it is so good. I text you immediately 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.920 after and I was like, this is what I've been 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.840 waiting for I was wrong, I can admit it. I 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.760 was really down on the first two episodes, maybe too harshly. 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.760 I was having a bad week last week. But I 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.680 feel much stronger about the direction of where we're going. 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.960 Daddy Mal strapped back in. He's he's gonna make this 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.800 lady a weapon, whether she wants to or not. He 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:46.080 is absolutely out here kicking ass. I thought the a 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.480 lot of the tensions were working a lot better for me. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.800 I think we get a little bit more of Rooke, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:52.040 which is great. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.800 Rooke, you know, it's kind of the only character we 0:18:55.880 --> 0:19:00.240 know from Maul series. She like has been here sort 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.280 of in the background, making a lot of interesting choices 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.080 over the time we've seen her with Mal, and so 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.440 I'm hoping we get more of her down the line. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.879 I just think the show is in general moving in 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.000 a really strong direction, and that gives me a lot 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:14.280 of hope for the rest of the series. 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.800 Okay, you spoke a little bit about rook cast, so 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.480 can you let's talk about the Mall team, because we 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.480 did have a kind of critique of that. They as 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.560 much as this show has quite a lot of second 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.240 screen style exposition for people who haven't watched the show 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.000 and previous animated series. I do not feel like they 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.520 necessarily did a good job of having that moment where 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:37.520 Rook says. 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.720 Chorus and Scorn go over there or something. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:41.760 You know. So, so could you talk a little bit 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:42.879 about the team Joe up. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.600 So there's okay, So truly, there's not that many people 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.120 we need to go over. I'll start with Rook cast 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.160 This is his like lieutenant. She's the one that's been 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.159 down to ride for a while. She first appears in 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.840 Jeremy Barlow's Son of Dathamir, which is a four part 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.919 comic book series. She's the former leader of the super Command. 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.400 She joined mal after he beat pre Visla in combat, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.119 which is significant because a lot of Mandalorians were like, 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.720 this guy is not Mandalorian. He can't lead us, and 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.160 she was like, we're Mandalorians. We follow strength. So she's 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.880 really like dedicated to those core tenants if you care. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.240 She wilds the leastar thirty five blaster pistols, two of them. 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:19.280 She's a dual welthcap. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.760 She has been with Maul through a lot. So she 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.719 freed Mall from sith imprisonment in the Spire when he 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.399 almost got got she stayed fighting with him when he 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.240 was against Grievous Sidius and Douku Holy Cow. Then later 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:36.960 during the season of Mandalora, she helped capture Ahsoka, a 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.679 Soka being Ahsoka escapes, but she was there and she 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:44.520 did help capture her. And then later on she's captured 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:49.680 by Bogatan, which is a really great kind of moment 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.760 in the Clone War series, and then she fall during 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.080 the fall of Dosimiir, she is there, which is I 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.960 think one of Maul's most important moments. This is when 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:02.560 he goes back to Dothanimir, Dooku is there. They're like, hey, 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.040 we're gonna finally end this planet. We meet ghost mother Tolesan, 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.960 who saves her son in a last ditch effort like 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:14.080 force pushes him back onto his ship, which we're gonna 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.919 get to that ship in a second. It's it's the 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:21.960 end of every last connection mal has to his blood family, 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:25.320 something I think he craves quite a bit. As we 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.399 see throughout these last four episodes. What he wants is 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.720 like allies, people who are faithful to him. He's looking 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.800 to sort of fill the rule of two that he's 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.040 been brainwashed and conditioned to think of. 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.240