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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A mother says it's really

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Speaker 1: just over. They're gone. She is talking about two beautiful

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Speaker 1: teens dead. Why an undocumented immigrant seven times over the

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Speaker 1: legal drinking limit kills the two teens. I Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: A beautiful young couple killed in a head on collision.

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Speaker 2: We remember t Leah Cruchet and Rylan on Cow.

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Speaker 1: I am looking at this beautiful teen girl to Leah's obituary.

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Speaker 1: You know how wrong that is to say a teen

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Speaker 1: girls obituary. She's beautiful on the outside, but on the

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Speaker 1: inside as well. Interesting the drunk driver is uninjured. Why

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Speaker 1: does that always happen? But she's dead. Born in Homa, Louisiana,

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Speaker 1: living in Thibodeaux, attending the Hlbougois High School and more

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Speaker 1: recently studying at the by Ukine Education Center. This little

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Speaker 1: girl not only going to school but working at ross

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Speaker 1: I imagine in the teen clothing area. She was starting

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Speaker 1: a new job at the waffle house. She's a homebody.

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Speaker 1: Her family loved her and she loved them. Love spending

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Speaker 1: time with her sisters and taking road trips. Her beloved dog,

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Speaker 1: Zena and was smitten by her new teen boyfriend Ryland

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Speaker 1: Rylan photoed here, also losing his life.

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Speaker 3: At the end of this oh bit, it says to.

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Speaker 1: Leah's sweet personality will be missed by all who knew her.

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Speaker 1: To Leia's sweet personality will be missed by all who

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Speaker 1: knew her. All I can think about, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: all of you on the panel and all of you listening,

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Speaker 1: all I can think about are my twins. About this age.

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Speaker 1: They go out one day in their car and they

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Speaker 1: never come home. They come home in a box because

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Speaker 1: an illegal immigrant was seven times over the legal drinking limit,

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Speaker 1: seven times over.

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Speaker 3: And these two are dead. You know how I found

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Speaker 3: out about the case.

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Speaker 1: I was online and I saw their mother. I saw

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Speaker 1: to Leah's mother, Devon, crying and saying to the effect,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it's all over. They're gone. And I

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Speaker 1: imagined Devon walking into our home and going back to

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Speaker 1: the twins room and being dead silent, just dead silent,

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Speaker 1: And that feeling in the air when you're all alone,

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Speaker 1: that that feeling and knowing that's what you're going through

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Speaker 1: every morning, noon, and night.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is it like to go into her room now.

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Speaker 4: It's good Wrenchie her oh, her dog, with her life

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Speaker 4: besides Ryland working like the dog meant everything to her.

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Speaker 4: And she's still in there, and I know she notices

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Speaker 4: that Tila's gone.

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Speaker 5: My thirteen year old has been sitting one alone.

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Speaker 6: That's been hard for her because she's in her sister's

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Speaker 1: What happened the day you found out about the crash?

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Speaker 1: You know, Devin Deane. When I was reading the obituary

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Speaker 1: last night, it refers to an accident.

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Speaker 3: It's no accident.

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Speaker 1: Does not argue pick a fight with a funeral home,

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Speaker 1: But it is no accident. When somebody drinks and drinks

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Speaker 1: and drinks, then gets their car, key, goes to the car,

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Speaker 1: opens it up, gets in, cranks up reverse and drives out.

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Speaker 3: Onto the street, that's not an accident.

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Speaker 1: Those are multiple decisions that lead into a horrific crash

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Speaker 1: with your girl.

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Speaker 3: That's not an accident. When did you learn about the crash?

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Speaker 6: So Talia she had been at She actually had started

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Speaker 6: her job at waffle house. Ryland just came in from

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Speaker 6: his first hitch off shore. He was so proud he

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Speaker 6: He said he was going to pick up Tala at

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Speaker 6: his best friends, Peyton and Peyton and Devin, and they

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Speaker 6: were going to fouchonp near Grand Isle to go fishing.

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Speaker 5: And I even said, why go so far there by?

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Speaker 6: You's everywhere around here, and he's like, no, they have

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Speaker 5: So they left. In the early hours of the morning.

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Speaker 5: I heard a really hard knocking. I answered the door.

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Speaker 6: I was like, the kids was to come back from fishing,

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Speaker 6: to Leah Crocheate Tale has never been in trouble, neither

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Speaker 5: They're great kids. And I was just like why, like

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Speaker 5: what did she do? Like what's going on? And he

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Speaker 6: He said, ma'am Tale has been in an automobile accident

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Speaker 6: and unfortunately she's passed. And I was just like, na oh,

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Speaker 6: that's not true. And I was like, where's Rylan. I

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Speaker 6: almost was waiting for Ryland to walk.

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Speaker 5: Out and make it okay, and that's when he told

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Speaker 3: Also, I was in shock.

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Speaker 6: My boyfriend walked out, Thank goodness, because I just kept

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Speaker 5: And then when he handed me our driver's license, I

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 5: It made it real.

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Speaker 3: I was listening to you stay earlier. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: They're just they're gone.

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Speaker 5: It's still unbelievable, Nancy. I missed him so much, not

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Speaker 5: just to Leah.

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Speaker 4: Ryland worked with me for a while the machine work,

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Speaker 3: With this kid. Every day.

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Speaker 5: He was like my son.

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Speaker 1: I have three.

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Speaker 5: Daughters besides my oldest daughter is Beyonce. He had become

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Speaker 5: my son and I literally saw him every.

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Speaker 3: Day, Miss Dane. When did you learn what had happened?

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Speaker 1: I mean, when the state trooper comes to your door

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Speaker 1: and tells you your daughter has is gone, has passed.

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Speaker 1: When did you realize what actually happened to your girl?

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Speaker 6: He may have even told us out there. I was

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Speaker 6: so out of it, honestly, I just remember thinking, like,

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Speaker 6: she's dead. And when he handed me the driver's license,

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Speaker 6: I just kept tapping it and I'm like Oh.

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Speaker 5: My god, she's gone. She's gone. I came in.

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Speaker 6: I the first first thing I did was wake up

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Speaker 6: my thirteen year old to tell her. And then I

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Speaker 6: called Ryland's grandfather in Texas because he was the closest

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Speaker 6: person to him besides his sister here and his friends.

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Speaker 5: And then I had.

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Speaker 6: To call and tell my old disaughterer, who's pregnant right now?

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Speaker 6: I was so I was so scared to call her.

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Speaker 6: But somewhere along that, I think they did tell us

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I take it back, I do remember he it was.

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Speaker 6: He did tell us it was a drunk driver that

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Speaker 6: hit them, because he said Riley was not speeding. They

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Speaker 6: all had their seat belts on, like they were doing

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Speaker 5: Because that was one of my things. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 5: what happened? Everything comes up bits and pieces.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, But yes, he did tell us out there,

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Speaker 6: because I remember him specifically saying like we had to

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Speaker 6: he wasn't speeding, and I'm like, of course they weren't.

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Speaker 6: Ryland was so careful, he was. He was everyone's protector,

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Speaker 1: Let me understand, they had their seat belts on and

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Speaker 3: Happened he I don't know.

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Speaker 5: They they said, we we spopked.

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Speaker 6: We spoke to the state troopers and they said that

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Speaker 6: they are doing an investigation into whatever they have that

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Speaker 6: was in the other vehicle. I guess shows the speed

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Speaker 6: it was going. They just have to connect it to

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Speaker 6: some to find out and they said it will be

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Speaker 6: in the report, like what speed he was going. But

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Speaker 6: he had to have been flying because it it flew.

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Speaker 6: We would see the crash slight yesterday for the first time,

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Speaker 6: and my daughter's car was on the other side of

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Speaker 6: the little little ditch like it actually flew her car

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Speaker 6: on the other side of the little ditch. Thank got

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Speaker 6: it was that side of the road. Though the other

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Speaker 6: side the other two boys might not have made it

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Speaker 6: because there was water.

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Speaker 1: So her the vehicle, the teen's vehicle was on the

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Speaker 6: They said Rylan was in his lane. The guy axle

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Speaker 6: was coming. He went into Ryland's lane. When Rylan went

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Speaker 6: to miss him, he hit him right where to Liam

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Speaker 6: was sitting and it spun the car and flew it

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Speaker 6: the little culvert area with the little ditch. I couldn't

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Speaker 6: believe it when I saw it in person.

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Speaker 3: How far it was from the road to Sydney.

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Speaker 1: Sumner Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. What do we

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Speaker 1: know about the crash itself?

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Speaker 3: Fancy?

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Speaker 8: So what we know about this crash is Rylan is driving,

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Speaker 8: is sitting in the passenger seat.

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Speaker 3: They have two passengers in.

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Speaker 5: The back seat. These are two of Ryland's friends.

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Speaker 8: They are traveling northbound Inland on Highway thirty ninety around

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Speaker 8: one am. The other driver, Axel Flores Cordoza, is driving

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Speaker 8: south towards them. Cordoza pulls into the right lane, he

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Speaker 8: crosses over the middle lane, is driving in Ryland's lane

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Speaker 8: directly towards them. Ryland sees this and attempts to correct.

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Speaker 8: He swerves into the left lane to avoid this oncoming car.

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Speaker 3: Cordova head on runs into.

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Speaker 8: The passenger side front of to Leah's car that Ryland

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Speaker 1: Just imagine driving in the darkness and seeing a pair

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Speaker 1: of headlights coming straight for you, straight for you, in

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Speaker 1: the dark of the night. From what we understand, Ryland

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Speaker 1: in to try and avoid a head on collision swerves

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Speaker 1: into the other line, the left lane, but then this

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Speaker 1: is him trying to get away from the wrong way driver.

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Speaker 3: Then the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: Driver also corrects, goes back into the left lane and

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Speaker 1: has a head on collision with the teams. Is that

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Speaker 1: what happened, Sidney Sumner?

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Speaker 8: Yes, Nancy, that is absolutely correct, And as you can see,

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Speaker 8: the damage to the car was extremely extensive. Ryland and

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Speaker 8: Talia had to be cut out removed from the car

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Speaker 8: by firefighters. By the time first responders arrived, Talia was

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Speaker 1: From what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner from Crime Online.

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Speaker 3: The driver, the wrong way driver.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, was seven times the

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Speaker 1: legal limit.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct? That is correct, Nancy.

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Speaker 8: That's what we know from the police report. They have

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Speaker 8: not released the actual number regarding his.

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Speaker 5: BAC, but they do tell us that it.

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Speaker 8: Is nearly seven times the legal limit for an underage drinker,

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Speaker 8: so that would be somebody under the age of twenty one.

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Speaker 8: That limit is point zero two. So Cordoza had a

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Speaker 8: BAC of a round point one four, which is almost

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Speaker 8: double the point eight legal limit four of age drinkers

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Speaker 8: twenty one and plus.

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Speaker 9: The front end of Ryland's Kia Rio is completely carved in.

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Speaker 9: First responders arrive within minutes, pulling the occupants from the wreckage,

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Speaker 9: but tu Lea is already gone. Ryland is rushed to

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Speaker 9: a hospital, where he also dies of his injuries. The

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Speaker 9: couple's two friends riding in the backseat also have serious injuries,

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Speaker 3: At the hospital.

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Speaker 2: The eighteen year old suspect was driving under the influence

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Speaker 1: Two beautiful teens dead. Why because an illegal immigrant? An

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Speaker 1: Joining me in addition to this, grieving mother Devin Dean,

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Speaker 3: Sonny, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Explain to me how many drinks this guy had to

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Speaker 11: Well, first and foremost, Nancy, thanks for bringing light to

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Speaker 11: are many components to Matt. You know, underage drinking in

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Speaker 5: That's what I can tell you.

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Speaker 1: Generally speaking, the guidelines and anybody can find these online.

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Speaker 1: Within about a span of an hour, it would take

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Speaker 3: For a man, three drinks for a woman.

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Speaker 1: This is a man, so four drinks and still be

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Speaker 1: Now we know this guy, the undocumented ailien, was seven

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Speaker 3: Two for his age. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Other general guidelines, it takes five drinks, depending on metabolism,

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Speaker 3: To get to legal limit.

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Speaker 1: This guy's point two time seven, which makes him point

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Speaker 3: So this is.

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Speaker 1: About ten alcoholic drinks. Ten alcoholic drinks.

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Speaker 1: That said to Eric Fattus, veteran trial lawyer or TV

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Speaker 1: I want to hear your defense to this.

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Speaker 12: Oh dear, this is a really tough one anyway you

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Speaker 3: It is completely devastating. I hope you're not going to

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Speaker 1: To the walk to the jury when you're defending some

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Speaker 1: and bears. Uh no, you better say something to get.

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Speaker 3: Your client off the hook. And I don't know how

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Speaker 1: How many drinks this guy had to have to be

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Speaker 3: That's point one.

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Speaker 12: Four, absolutely, but you know there are some mitigating circumstances.

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Speaker 12: Not that it excuses anything. He was eighteen, As the

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Speaker 12: mad executive director said, his brain was not fully developed.

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Speaker 12: That doesn't excuse the decisions he made, but it puts

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Speaker 3: Are you serious? My head's blowing off? Did you what

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Speaker 3: His brain is not fully armed. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for that to be argued in front

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Speaker 12: And typically that kind of thing would be argued in

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Speaker 12: in context, in terms of culpability, in terms of moral blameworthiness.

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Speaker 12: Oftentimes judges will look at a person's age, their development,

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Speaker 1: We don't know because he's not from here. We don't

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Speaker 1: I know what he did there? He could have done anything,

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Speaker 12: And it's a problem when it comes to enforcing the

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Speaker 12: prior substance issues. Certainly the defense attorney will look into that.

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Speaker 3: They may hire a mitigation.

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Speaker 12: Specialist, conduct a full sort of psychological evaluation and present

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Speaker 12: that to try and lessen the sentence for for this general.

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Speaker 1: A psychological evaluation to tell me, while these two teams.

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Speaker 3: Are dead, why they are dead?

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine what they experience in the middle of

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Speaker 3: The wrong lane. It's one am.

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Speaker 1: He tries ryland tries to maneuver away, and then this

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Speaker 1: And just to chop it all off, he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: Where is the justice in that? There is an absence

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Speaker 12: And it's bizarred that sometimes we see in these drunk

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Speaker 1: You know what, Eric Fattus, I got to hand it

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Speaker 1: to you, I really do. I don't agree with anything

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Speaker 1: that you're saying. Is just like Satan himself spat it

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Speaker 3: You never give up. I knock you down one theory

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Speaker 1: His brain's not formed, really, then, how did he know

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Speaker 1: His brain is formed? He managed to make his way here,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so his brain is formed.

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Speaker 1: Then you're telling me he needs a psychological evaluation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I do have to hand it to you.

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Speaker 1: You do never give up and no matter what I

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Speaker 1: this guy will need. I'm trying to understand something about

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Speaker 1: what happened to these two teams. No license, not wearing

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Speaker 1: seat belt. Doctor Jen Gorniac is joining me, renowned medical

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Speaker 1: examiner formerly with Clark County Office of the Coroner. Never

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Speaker 1: like a business in Vegas, Doctor Gorniac at World Peace

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Speaker 1: Forendsic Consulting. What does that mean? Because it can't be

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Speaker 1: I say, Jackie eight or ten drinks before he got

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Speaker 1: I keep hearing the drunk person without a seat belt

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Speaker 7: It is I don't think anybody has that answer. And

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Speaker 3: Doctor gorneyact.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be something to it that the drunk

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Speaker 1: medical examiners say it over and over that they're so

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Speaker 7: I also think, well, especially at that level of a

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Speaker 2: The two teens riding in the backseat of the car

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Speaker 1: And then Mom has woken up in the middle of

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Speaker 1: Cruchet's mother, Devin. When you hear all of these arguments,

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. All I keep thinking about is hearing you.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like your heart was actually breaking when you

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Speaker 3: They're gone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it still is.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, Nancy, I say so busy making sure all the

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Speaker 6: I don't I've just I've just stayed so busy. I

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Speaker 6: so concerned about all the kids. Rylan's sister here, Madison,

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Speaker 6: I said, my twenty four year old is she's pregnant,

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Speaker 5: Time for her.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I've just been holding it together and making sure

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Speaker 5: I think it's what's keeping me going.

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Speaker 6: But I'm so broken every time I think that my

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Speaker 6: it's just it's something no one can ever understand. And

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Speaker 5: You will never understand.

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Speaker 6: Tealiah was such a sweet person and she always like

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Speaker 6: Kept us on our toes because she did so and

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Speaker 6: one of the day that she passed. The first thing

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Speaker 6: I said was, what are we gonna do? Like I

446
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Speaker 6: told my boyfriend, what are we gonna do now? We

447
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 6: don't have her? We all just you know, we're always

448
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Speaker 6: so involved with her, with everything, and now she's just gone.

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Speaker 1: Joining us an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 1: what we are hearing to Sunny Wall joining us executive

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Speaker 1: director of Mad Mothers Against Drunk Driving Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: How do you deal with.

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Speaker 1: Moms dads that have to endure the loss of their

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Speaker 1: children to a drunk driver, in this case, seven times

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Speaker 1: over the legal limit.

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Speaker 11: It's absolutely one of the most horrific things that anyone

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Speaker 11: can experience in their lives. We are a victim's first

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Speaker 11: organization and we have victim advocates that reach out after

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Speaker 11: a certain amount of time to offer services at no

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Speaker 11: cost to them to make sure that our justice system

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Speaker 11: does its job, and you know, explain to them how

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Speaker 11: no one is given a book, Nancy, on what to

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Speaker 11: do when this happens. We're not handed. This is a

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Speaker 11: club no one wants to join, and with good reason.

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Speaker 11: It's absolutely heart wrenching and we are devastated for all

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Speaker 11: that's happened, and we are here for the victims. First, victims,

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Speaker 11: family First. It's just heart wrenching. There is no sense

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Speaker 11: to it, and you're right, but you said earlier, this

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Speaker 11: is not an accident. An accident is something without intent.

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Speaker 11: But when you become impaired and get behind the wheel,

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Speaker 11: you're driving a two ton weapon and that's a choice.

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Speaker 11: It's a senseless, one hundred percent preventable crime, and we

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Speaker 11: need to stop it.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 13: Actual Flora's Cordoza is immediately arrested on several traffic charges

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Speaker 13: and DWI. During this processing, Louisiana Say police determined Flora's

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Speaker 13: Cordoza is not a US citizen and came to the

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Speaker 13: country illegally from his native Honduras. As cops learned the

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Speaker 13: status of his victims that Tleah Crochet and Ryan on

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Speaker 13: Cal have passed away, Flora's Cordoza is additionally charged with

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Speaker 13: two counts of duivehicular homicide and two counts of vehicular

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Speaker 13: negligence injuring.

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Speaker 3: More do we learn Listen?

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Speaker 10: The jeep Cherokey is only occupied by driver Axel Flores Cordoza,

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Speaker 10: who's found completely unharmed despite not wearing a seat belt.

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Speaker 10: Flores Cordoza eighteen, is unlicensed, has open alcohol in his

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Speaker 10: cup holder, and is clearly drunk. The team voluntarily submits

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Speaker 10: to a breath test. The results in a BAC just

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Speaker 10: under point one four, equivalent to seven times the point

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Speaker 10: zero two legal limit for drivers under twenty one and

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Speaker 10: nearly twice the limit for drivers of legal drinking age.

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Speaker 1: To Eric Fattis, you have handled so many dui Vehicular

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Speaker 1: homicides is what they're called. I really don't think that

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Speaker 1: they should be distinguished from malice murder. Vehicular homicides are

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Speaker 1: equivalent to a manslaughter, where you don't have the requisite requisite.

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Speaker 3: Intent to commit a crime.

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Speaker 1: I disagree, because every time you take a drink, in

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Speaker 1: this case seven to eight alcoholic drinks, hard alcohol, every drink,

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Speaker 1: every swallow, was a decision, and it's a decision to

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Speaker 1: drive after drinking. To me, you know, of course, the

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Speaker 1: law is very clear. Intent to commit a crime can

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Speaker 1: be either express or not implicit. Explicit or implicit explicit.

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Speaker 1: That's when I say, Eric.

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Speaker 3: Fattis, I've had it and I shoot you in the head.

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Speaker 1: I'm killing you, man. That's explicitly stated. Implicit means the

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Speaker 1: law determines you intended the act based on your actions

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Speaker 1: what you did, and that is the case here. There

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Speaker 1: is explicit evidence he meant to drink and drive with

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Speaker 1: the consequence death.

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Speaker 12: I hear you, and it's a fair point. I think

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Speaker 12: what the law it makes a distinguished a distinction on

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Speaker 12: is you know, the intent to really take a life

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Speaker 12: is different than than just being reckless and knowingly disregarding

514
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Speaker 12: a substantial risk that ends in tragedy. Unfortunately, they both

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Speaker 12: have the same outcome. And a lot of people think

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Speaker 12: that that point matters substantially, and I understand that. But

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Speaker 12: when we're looking at the choices the perpetrator made, the

518
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Speaker 12: law would say that the choice to try and intentionally

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Speaker 12: take someone's life is different than being reckless than taking

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Speaker 12: a risk.

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Speaker 3: And we're talking about an.

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Speaker 12: Eighteen year old here, clearly a horrible decision, but I'm

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Speaker 12: not sure in his mind did he ever intend to

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Speaker 12: kill somebody. And I'm not sure that that intent would

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Speaker 12: be implicit in just making bad decisions.

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean to kill anybody.

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Speaker 1: How about if I take a gun and point it

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Speaker 1: at year head and pull the trigger and they.

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Speaker 3: Say, oops, I didn't mean to kill him. I just

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Speaker 3: meant to scare him.

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Speaker 12: You know, there's certainly a weapon involved, like the mad

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Speaker 12: director said, but it's just a different scenario. When a

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Speaker 12: person acts with this reckless disregard. Now that's not okay either,

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Speaker 12: But I think that our law and our legislators have

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Speaker 12: said that that choice is less culpable than someone who

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Speaker 12: really wants to steal another person's life. I just don't

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Speaker 12: have any evidence that this driver have that such intent,

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Speaker 12: although he did, of course act recklessly.

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Speaker 3: It has been.

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Speaker 2: It's really just over, like they're gone. A grieving mother

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Speaker 2: speaks out about the devastating loss of her daughter and

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Speaker 2: her daughter's boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Te Lea and Ryan, both gone after an undocumented individual,

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Speaker 1: also known as an illegal immigrant from Honduras comes to

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Speaker 1: our country, gets seven times over the legal drink limit.

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Speaker 3: Drives on the wrong side.

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Speaker 1: Of the road in the dark, and mows into these

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Speaker 1: two beautiful teens now angels.

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Speaker 3: How did the whole thing start?

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Speaker 13: Listen to Leah crochet Is head over heels for Ryland

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Speaker 13: on Cow, the Louisiana eighteen year olds to meet just

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Speaker 13: after graduating from neighboring hl Bourgeois and Central Laforcee High schools,

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Speaker 13: they quickly become inseparable, to Lea even going with Ryland

554
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Speaker 13: to Heartland, Texas to spend several weeks with his family.

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00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 13: To Leah can't wait for Ryland to return to Raceland

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Speaker 13: after starting a new job with Gulf Logistics working as

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Speaker 13: a deckhand.

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Speaker 1: These two had just graduated from high school, all one

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Speaker 1: at the HL Bourgeois and one at Central Lafourche, and

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Speaker 1: they immediately fall in popul love.

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Speaker 9: Listen Ryland on Cow meets girlfriend to Leah Crochet and

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Speaker 9: two friends in Port Fortune, just after finishing his first

563
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Speaker 9: twenty eight day shift as a deckhand on an oil rig.

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Speaker 9: The teens enjoy a much needed night out together on

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Speaker 9: dry Land, then poland Ryland's Kia Rio to head back

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Speaker 9: to Raceland, taking Highway thirty ninety Inland from the Cost

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Speaker 9: on their.

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Speaker 3: Way home from fishing together that night.

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Speaker 10: This happens as Rylan drives through the one am darkness,

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Speaker 10: he spots a set of headlights coming towards him. As

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Speaker 10: the car gets closer, Rylan realizes the oncoming jeep is

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Speaker 10: driving in his lane. Rylan swerves into the left lane

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Speaker 10: to avoid the wrong way driver, but the jeep also

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Speaker 10: corrects back into the left lane and slams into the

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Speaker 10: teens head on, the front end.

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Speaker 1: Of the Kia is totally destroyed. Can you imagine what

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Speaker 1: happened to the driver and the passenger up front?

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Speaker 9: Listen, the front end of Ryland's Kia Rio is completely

579
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Speaker 9: carved in. First responders arrive within minutes, pulling the occupants

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Speaker 9: from the wreckage, but to Lea is already gone. Ryland

581
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Speaker 9: is rushed to a hospital, where he also dies of

582
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Speaker 9: his injuries. The couple's two friends riding in the backseat

583
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Speaker 9: also have serious injuries, but are stabilized at the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Medical examiner doctor Jane gorniack joining us. I

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Speaker 1: know you've handled a lot of the hicky or homicide cases.

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Speaker 1: Looking at the front of that car, that Kia Rio

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Speaker 1: is totally destroyed.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of the cause of death?

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Speaker 1: Could they have survived even for moments after impact?

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Speaker 3: What would they have endured?

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Speaker 7: Doctor Gorniac, Especially on that passenger side, you can see

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Speaker 7: the intrusion into the car. I would believe there are

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Speaker 7: I would say multiple blood force injuries, crush injuries, even

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Speaker 7: sometimes the seat belt. I don't know if you've ever

595
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Speaker 7: been in a car crash, and the seat belt tightens up.

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Speaker 7: That can cause some neck injuries. So I can assume

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Speaker 7: that you know she had neck injuries, chest injuries, crushing injuries,

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Speaker 7: especially too when you have al bags deploying, so then

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Speaker 7: you get pushed from both sides. Ryland probably the same thing.

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Speaker 7: Most likely you have the steering wheel that can cause

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Speaker 7: chest injuries, head injuries. You see, I'm not sure that

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Speaker 7: glass was probably a combination of the collision and the

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Speaker 7: firefighters using the quote unquote jaws of life to extricate them.

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Speaker 7: But it's a lot of compression, I would say compression,

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Speaker 7: so lung injuries, rib injuries, head injuries, neck injuries, so

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Speaker 7: just I mean a massive amount of injuries, especially being

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Speaker 7: pronounced dead at the scene.

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Speaker 2: The Onseene breath test revealed the driver's blood alcohol level

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Speaker 2: was seven times the legal limit for an underage driver.

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Speaker 1: Joining me is Talia's mother, Devin Dane joining us from Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how you had the strength to

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Speaker 1: go through the funeral.

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Speaker 3: How did you get through that?

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Speaker 6: Honestly, Nancy, the days leading up to the funeral, we

615
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 6: were so busy making sure that Rylan and Talia had

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Speaker 6: the most beautiful service and had the best of everything

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Speaker 6: that we could give them, and from there it's really

618
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Speaker 6: just been making sure all the other kids are okay.

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Speaker 5: I have my moments.

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Speaker 6: I break down a little bit here and there, but

621
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Speaker 6: for the most part, we're all staying very close knit,

622
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Speaker 6: and my daughters have been coming.

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Speaker 5: Over every day. Madison's been coming over every day. That's

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Speaker 5: Ryland's sister. We've all just been a unit and kind

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Speaker 5: of keeping each other's spirits up.

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Speaker 6: And right now it's working, but I know at some

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Speaker 6: point that that's not going to be able to continue,

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Speaker 6: and honestly, that's probably what I'm more scared of than anything.

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Speaker 1: What bits and pieces do you recall of the funeral.

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Speaker 5: Over I remember the entire thing. I was very alert

631
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Speaker 5: and aware.

632
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Speaker 6: Every time I would blink, someone else was grabbing me

633
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 6: and hugging me, and it felt like a million people.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, it felt like I was there for

635
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Speaker 5: ten hours versus four.

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Speaker 6: It was just crazy, the amount of the outpouring of

637
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: love that we had at that funeral and that service.

638
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 6: But girls, seeing all those children break down, kids their

639
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 6: age that should never have to see a friend of

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Speaker 6: theirs in a casket was absolutely the worst that was

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Speaker 6: the worst thing.

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Speaker 5: I was like me as a mom, my heart, my

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Speaker 5: mom heart is broken.

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Speaker 1: Devin, you sited that there were youngsters there that actually

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Speaker 1: saw to Leah in her casket. It was an open

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Speaker 1: casket funeral.

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Speaker 6: We were blessed enough that she did have extensive injuries

648
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Speaker 6: to the right side of her face where the car hit,

649
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Speaker 6: but the left side she was perfectly beautiful, so we

650
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 6: were able to fix her hair to where.

651
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 5: It covered half of her face and the other half.

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Speaker 4: Of her face was beautiful and looked just like her,

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Speaker 4: and Ry will look perfect.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how you're putting one foot in

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Speaker 1: front of the other. What is your message to other parents?

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Speaker 6: First and foremost, my biggest thing was I was always

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Speaker 6: so careful with my kids.

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Speaker 5: I always told them, you know, this is what.

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Speaker 3: You need to do.

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Speaker 5: You need to be careful, watch this. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 6: It genuinely doesn't matter, because no matter how careful they are,

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Speaker 6: when something like this happens, my.

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Speaker 5: Kids are gone and they did nothing wrong. They were

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Speaker 5: having a good afternoon out fishing. Don't drink and drive.

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Speaker 5: Teach your children, stop others from drinking and driving. Do

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Speaker 5: not get behind the wheel if you're intoxicated because this

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Speaker 5: is not worth it.

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Speaker 6: It's just not like there's nothing that they can measure

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Speaker 6: up to what this family is going through. And not

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Speaker 6: even just a family. This is rocked our Try Parish area.

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Speaker 6: Like the outpouring, like I said, of love is just unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: People crying daily, reaching out to me like it's so sad.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: The toll free tip number for Mad Mothers Against drunk

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Speaker 1: Driving eight seven seven Mad Help eight seven seven six ' two.

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Speaker 3: Three three four three five.

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Speaker 1: If we can even stop one dunk driving fatality, it's

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Speaker 1: all worth it. And our prayers go out to Devon

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Speaker 1: and the family of Ryland.

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Speaker 3: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,