WEBVTT - Ep 12: The Sober Guy

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<v Speaker 1>Novel.

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<v Speaker 2>This show contains adult material, references to drugs and swearing.

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<v Speaker 3>You have been warned.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I didn't finish my girls a champagne because

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to fucking far in front of him.

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<v Speaker 3>I did do that in front of him.

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<v Speaker 1>What around me?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a savage? Are you bored of modern dating?

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<v Speaker 2>Meeting the same people from the same apps in the

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<v Speaker 2>same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your

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<v Speaker 2>house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time to change the narrative on how we find love.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to start looking for love in all the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only

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<v Speaker 2>picking people who are the total opposite of my type.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've took twenty eight of these dates in two months.

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<v Speaker 3>Will I find that special someone or well?

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<v Speaker 2>This experiment proved that I should just give up on

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<v Speaker 2>dating altogether.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time to find out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Dan, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? Thank you, baby, I'm good all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm swaying constantly me as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm training human.

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<v Speaker 1>Sipp and slide, let me down and ride me out.

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<v Speaker 2>So this week I went on a date with a

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<v Speaker 2>sober person, which is not my usual date because I

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<v Speaker 2>like to drink when i'm dating. Yeah, exactly, I'm blackout

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<v Speaker 2>before I even get there. I don't remember anything about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually not my asual type. But he was hot, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was hot, and he had a good voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone need to hear his voice. His voice was fucking fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and SIPs trousers, get dick out.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hey you didn't where's that's from New York? You're America?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you sound like Danish.

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<v Speaker 1>Really I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm half German and half Italian, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fine, Yeah you're older than than Thanks for having

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years. Yeah, that's a bit I do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like a bit I like to do. I

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<v Speaker 3>just shame people for being old. That's just one of

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<v Speaker 3>my things.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the deadest flitg I've ever heard of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you sound Danish.

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<v Speaker 3>He did sound Danish. Bro I mean he looked Danish.

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<v Speaker 1>He just looked maybe Danish. I give you that.

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<v Speaker 3>After a while I realized he was American.

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<v Speaker 1>His voice sounds gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>He was cute.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving like it's giving porn. I feel like it's giving.

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<v Speaker 3>Giving porn, it's giving Lumberjack.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one time reading this like erotic fiction online

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<v Speaker 1>about like these like Broadway Broadway performers who I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know, and it was like so long, but baby

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<v Speaker 1>Dick was raw wow, so much masturbation.

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<v Speaker 3>I got centertic fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever read it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I used to read like Twilight stuff online.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it like get you off?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I was just interested, but no.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really hot though.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I get that. I've just never.

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<v Speaker 2>Really like wanks like reading. I hate reading. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to read. So I get the I get

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite of a hard one, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You get brain freeze. Are you sober to sober for

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<v Speaker 1>three years? Yeah? Like three years three months now. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the first year, like I just.

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<v Speaker 5>Focused on myself, worked at myself, and then then I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was able to Were you doing therapy?

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<v Speaker 1>I was recovery stuff, right yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you do the recovery work.

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<v Speaker 3>You're still doing like, are you like?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I still do two meetings a week or so,

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<v Speaker 4>and so yeah, I still am involved with dad just

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<v Speaker 4>to keep it fresh.

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<v Speaker 3>So have you ever dated someone who is sober.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have. It was actually quite cute, like the

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<v Speaker 1>person was so beautiful and like really soft and gentle.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't drink either, so it meant that you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had to like be in the moment more

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<v Speaker 1>like you couldn't You couldn't rely on alcohol.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no distraction, but this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't blind alcohol to make you more of a

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<v Speaker 1>conversational list like, you just have to kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>listen and be in that moment. But it was hard though,

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<v Speaker 1>because the place that we were at was also a

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<v Speaker 1>poor and the room next door there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>live band playing, so it was so loud and with

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<v Speaker 1>my ADHD like I just hear all the other noises,

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<v Speaker 1>so I couldn't quite hear them. But they were really

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<v Speaker 1>cute and I enjoyed it, and I would do it

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<v Speaker 1>again because like I want to be able to be

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to expectience moments more in

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<v Speaker 1>the present. Which okay, now when my God. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>your Mindfulness Meditation with dan Wyn Grace Campbell.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh No but also to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it okay with my Forest Meditation, I look as

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<v Speaker 1>come in no it's not that. It's like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done it for a few days, why you being

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<v Speaker 1>passive aggressive? Is there like, oh it's been a few days, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>No Sleep Meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>And then halfway through it was like this episode is

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<v Speaker 2>sponsored no Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Fresh, and I was like, are you joking?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm half asleep and I'm being advertised to baby?

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<v Speaker 1>How am I supposed to find inner piece when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say that Nanita that Hello Fresh, Nanitza, have

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<v Speaker 1>you had that yet?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, it's a nonbred pizza. What's what's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 2>On his profile, which also makes me a bit sad,

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<v Speaker 2>it says get.

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<v Speaker 1>He says forty three man straight.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so sad, so sad, a loss of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I'm sober, but I don't judge. Okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I did read that wrong because I thought he said

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<v Speaker 2>don't judge me, but I was obviously me projecting, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't judge. Also kind of rude because nobody was

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<v Speaker 2>giving me the right to judge anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I guess what he's saying is there's that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a stigma about people who are sober that people are.

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<v Speaker 2>Around Yeah, but the thing is like, because I did

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a few drinks on this day, I was

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<v Speaker 2>drinking champagne.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually that's why I was drinking. Yeah, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Pause for applause. So I was drinking champagne and was

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Tipsy, but was then really conscious of like being tipsy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like watching myself through the lens of him,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think makes me obviously very self conscious.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like when my mum.

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<v Speaker 2>Sees me drunk, I fucking trip out because she's never

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<v Speaker 2>been drunk before and she doesn't even care. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like constantly everything I'm saying, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>she thinks I'm a retrobate.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think it makes you drunk?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it makes me really aware of everything I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying and how I'm sounding, and I think it makes

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<v Speaker 2>me more or less drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>It just makes me like anxious in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's like it's a bit like you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you like smoke weed and then like you bump

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<v Speaker 1>into someone and you're a bit high. In my head,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they bumped into me and I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>clown nose on.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to message them and they're like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea, Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>As you were eating a whole bag of Cheeto. It's

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<v Speaker 1>on the street.

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<v Speaker 5>So when when I first got sober, and then I

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<v Speaker 5>broke up with the girl that I was seeing because

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't a good relationship to start with, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I took a year off to to look at my

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<v Speaker 5>stuff and then and part.

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<v Speaker 3>Of that is looking at all that they say as well,

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<v Speaker 3>you shouldn't date like.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect sense, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And because you're looking at relationships that you've had

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<v Speaker 5>and you just end up doing the same thing if

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<v Speaker 5>and it's distracting.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess one of the negatives as well is that

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't want someone to remember all the thing

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<v Speaker 1>from that night if you were drunk, So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like if I'm drunk, I want you to be drunk

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<v Speaker 1>so that we're both forgetting what's happened. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need you having like a script of all the things

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<v Speaker 1>I said whilst pissed.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think it's like an energy thing of like,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is you know, something I would struggle with.

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<v Speaker 2>I think being sober and dating is there's a moment

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<v Speaker 2>where a date goes from like a bit flirty to

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<v Speaker 2>like a bit sexual, and I think sober that moment

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<v Speaker 2>is takes a lot more to like want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's sometimes a good thing, because sometimes when

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<v Speaker 2>you're sober, you're like, I actually don't want to get

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<v Speaker 2>to this person, whereas I would just get with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the amount of times that you wake up and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like in bed with someone and you're like, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no chemistry. We were just.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly exactly, so I think sometimes, but then I

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<v Speaker 2>also feel like the best dates I've ever been.

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<v Speaker 3>In my life have been like we've been a bit drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes things get a bit more unpredictable when you're drinking

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<v Speaker 2>a bit, which is exciting, and I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you lose that a bit when you're sober.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like imagine like being in like like Less Square,

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<v Speaker 1>like climbing one of the statues sober and then statue

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<v Speaker 1>and like take a fat with me, but you're sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're both sober. He's not even watching you drunk

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<v Speaker 2>climb on the Travagar Square, Lion.

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<v Speaker 3>You're both sober.

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<v Speaker 1>Given like a level like photography, you're on a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sober dat ya and your date someone's busking on the

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<v Speaker 2>tube and your date starts dancing with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Oh my god, I would scream. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the worst image I've ever ever had to

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<v Speaker 1>like picture.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad always goes up to buskers and like talks

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<v Speaker 2>to them, and I'm like, Dad, they're trying to play music.

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<v Speaker 1>What does he say?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, because he used to be a busker, so he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks he's so part of the community.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, what gradio sounded? You sound grateful to me?

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<v Speaker 3>He used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>He used to be a busker in the south of

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<v Speaker 2>France and he also used to write porn. My dad, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>porn character called the Riviera Jiggilow. Yeah, he used to

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<v Speaker 2>live in the French Riviera.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I'm sorry, your dad's EDFPR. What do you want about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we were talking about dating and like I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>like our sex lives, and then we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of sex we're into, which is just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the chat that I somehow get onto.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's important you have to know that you're both

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<v Speaker 1>viable intimately before you get intimate.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, say intimate one more time.

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<v Speaker 1>Intimately that is, so what if you're not fully erect

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this. What's wrong with you? Oh? Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to snort? Let them.

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<v Speaker 3>Down?

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<v Speaker 1>Put that plate of coke down, Grace, we're doing work.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been on days of people who are like

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<v Speaker 3>really hardcore?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just now what I'm into.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I wanted to be fun and late garden and

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<v Speaker 4>so like pain or bdsm or ying Like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, and kinks are fine, but I just

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to I don't want it to be I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like anything too intense, like where it's it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like we're pain and stuff is I don't know that's

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, but it's now support turned into like casual kink,

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of both, like ye, friends with benefits,

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<v Speaker 4>like open relationships that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your king, because mine's just like mine's just like

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<v Speaker 2>kid kiddling, kissing and coddling.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my gag.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you just combine kissing and good link into kitdling?

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<v Speaker 1>How creepy that king?

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<v Speaker 2>But when he was talking, I was like, Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like my lover because I also get like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not like kink shamed, but people think I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be into way more kinky stuff than I actually am,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm made to feel really boring because of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, he's kind of speaking my language

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<v Speaker 2>in the sense that I don't to be tied up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be choked.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be slapped, like you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in fear of that happening to me every time I

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<v Speaker 2>fucking go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like sometimes you have to be careful

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<v Speaker 1>with that kind of guy, because that kind of guy

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<v Speaker 1>I can have that kind of like that conversation with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go back to his and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm into pooh play.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm not into heavy kinks. But can I

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<v Speaker 1>shit on your chest?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Leo, that's Leo?

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<v Speaker 1>But sure, yeah, I mean fair what's my kink? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like I would like to explore more kink.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I do like a nice little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>like am switch, like a bit of like role play,

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<v Speaker 1>like either I'm the dominant one or like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of shit and you can tell me what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is is being like six foot five

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<v Speaker 1>and being like no one ever, no one ever tells

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<v Speaker 1>me what to do because I'm always putting the dominant

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<v Speaker 1>role like just naturally, which I don't mind, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to be a whole.

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<v Speaker 4>I've gone out with a with a married woman who's

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<v Speaker 4>married and then I won't have a coffee deal with her,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we had then we went on like a

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<v Speaker 4>dinner dad.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the round and then and then.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to a kink club called Twitter Garden. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then her husband was there. But did she say,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way my husband.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, it was her husband and their friend and

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<v Speaker 4>the friends.

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<v Speaker 2>So you went in a group with her and with

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<v Speaker 2>her husband getting with her.

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<v Speaker 3>He was cool, Well, you were getting with her.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no sex that night, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everyone was aware what was going No, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you being in with her in front of her

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<v Speaker 2>husband and then he was in front of you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's quite chic.

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<v Speaker 1>That was very modern, it was I mean, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>is quite hot. I have actually watching a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>cook porn recently.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting. So I only love what what a cock

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<v Speaker 3>is this week?

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<v Speaker 1>So cook porn is basically where like your partner watches

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<v Speaker 1>Fox someone else, But it kind of seems hot to

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<v Speaker 1>me to be honest, compared to most of the dates

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<v Speaker 1>that I've listened to, this guy sounds so cute and nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it good? Did you enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 2>I did enjoy it. I did enjoy it, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>having a nice time. And then what happened was I

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<v Speaker 2>ate some food and as I beforementioned, I was feeling

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<v Speaker 2>indigestion tive, and then it just fucking came to a

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<v Speaker 2>head and I had like suddenly, like really bad stomach pains.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to say out loud that I knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was trapped wind, so I said I thought maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it was like period pains or something like that, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bit easier for men to just in that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>But I knew it was trapped wind. And then so

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<v Speaker 3>then I got on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>I got on the floor under the child's phone, no,

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<v Speaker 2>because I needed to fucking fart well in front of him.

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<v Speaker 3>I did do that in front of him. What. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having absolutely awful stomach cramps. It's not that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to like far or anything. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>either my period or I'm dying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably my period, yeah, or waste of a glass

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<v Speaker 3>of champagne.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I didn't finish my glass of champagne. And

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<v Speaker 3>then that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the worst thing that's happening in this moment. You

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<v Speaker 1>in Charles pose on the floor growning a far out whole.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably worse than the quarter filled glass of champagne.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fucking fresh glass of champagne. I don't even understand.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing about trapped wind is that as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>you far it goes away. So it's annoying because it

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<v Speaker 2>could have carried on the day when it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>a toilet, because I was in so much way. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you never had you ever had trap wind so badly?

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<v Speaker 3>I could? You can't really move?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, of course I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got it right now. I'm on Charles pose on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor in the studio. Pass me that glass of champeg,

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<v Speaker 1>will you. But I love that this guy is like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is like, yeah, I'm not really into like

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<v Speaker 1>weird things, want like some like massive kink. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like Child's post yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like it's not it's not I'm not gonna fart,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Not gonna fart. There's there's one thing I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fart. But you know what, that's actually like quite

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<v Speaker 1>a solid out of a date, because one of the

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<v Speaker 1>issues that I have is I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>leave a date.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely faked illness.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say the best one is saying, like

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<v Speaker 2>a member of your family or friend has gone into labor.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a lot of acting, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually really easy you say, oh my god, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we actually do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've done it loads of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait to want another drink? Wait, let me be straight,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want another drink?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Oh my god, I'm fuck, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>My best friend's gone into labor. I'm so sorry, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm her, I'm a person, you're dol.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm her doula. Yeah, pulling the baby out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the father. So what I'm convinced.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've done it a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>That one. I have. One time I remember, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>like being on this day and going back to this

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<v Speaker 1>person's house and having like really bad sex. But then afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>this person was like, I'm really glad that you're here

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<v Speaker 1>and like expecting me to stay around. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe half twelve at night. So I text my

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<v Speaker 1>house mate whilst they're in the toilet, and I was there, like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you just email me right now and pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting has been pushed forward midnight? No? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's in like tomorrow morning is way earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I have to leave because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in this person's bed. And then they did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I honestly gave the worst acting of my entire life,

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<v Speaker 1>like we both knew, but like I just had to

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<v Speaker 1>commit to the role.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is why, I think in those moments, you

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<v Speaker 2>just want to believe that what the person is saying

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<v Speaker 2>is true. So they probably would think I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>this person.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the moments, you just want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be reassured enough in yourself to go no.

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<v Speaker 3>This one wasn't actually that okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have liked that to go on for longer,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was in an excuchating pain.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I fired, and then I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was fine, would you see him again?

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<v Speaker 2>So this is like one of the only ones I've

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<v Speaker 2>actually wanted to see him again and he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to see me again.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess why, because you're in Charles post on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor farting. So are you inte that sober guys, would

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<v Speaker 1>you do it again?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I actually do think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think so, And I'm thinking maybe in the

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<v Speaker 2>future I'll be more open to like actually being like

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<v Speaker 2>dating properly someone who's sober.

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<v Speaker 1>And would you be more open to being more sober

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<v Speaker 1>on dates yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so, because then that would have avoided maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the trapped wind if I hadn't drunk so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that is like that this is the moral,

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<v Speaker 1>but the moral is so clear, it's almost like biblical.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, it's like the absolutely fabulous Bible.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a b c a d ab fab Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>because I still think at this point, like sometimes I'm

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<v Speaker 6>still trying to chase oblivion, like I'm still want to

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<v Speaker 6>get wanting to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Like real fucked, Like I won't realize how many pints

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<v Speaker 1>I've had because I can just drink.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>When I think about being in a relationship with a

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<v Speaker 2>sober person, I think, do I want to go on

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<v Speaker 2>holiday with someone and we're not going to have like

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking like wine Connoissan night out.

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<v Speaker 3>Pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then I guess I can still do that,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not that deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like what is more important, like like love

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<v Speaker 1>and connection and trust with somebody or a long Island

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<v Speaker 1>iced tea by the pool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can because do I trust anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>But I do want to that I can trust. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>next time.

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<v Speaker 2>On twenty eight dates later, he had brought me a

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<v Speaker 2>present and he brought me some vegan bacon.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the first presence you've got?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And can we by the way, can we normalize bringing

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<v Speaker 2>gifts on a first day?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's really chaps see a welcome. I'm a savage,

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<v Speaker 3>he can hurt it.

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