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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It is my old friend.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's a bit hilf, just having a grand time.

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Speaker 2: You look like somebody answered this question. Do you know

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Speaker 2: it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you ass Nadine a friend of the show.

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Speaker 3: She sent us an email. Hey Szaren Elizabeth, producer Dan

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Speaker 3: Doggie Interns. I'm a rude dude from New Jersey and

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Speaker 3: your podcast is my all time favorite. I've been listening

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Speaker 3: since early twenty twenty three and y'all have seen me

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Speaker 3: through some tough times and some tough commutes.

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Speaker 4: So thank you.

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Speaker 3: Check out this ridiculous Amazon review I found for some sandals.

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Speaker 3: I hope it makes y'all laugh the way y'all make

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Speaker 3: me laugh. Love you, so I'm going to.

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Speaker 4: Read you this.

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 4: You know I love you. I love crazy reviews one

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Speaker 4: of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: You text me photos of crazy I do.

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Speaker 4: I love obviously.

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Speaker 3: I love the ones where it's like the sugar free

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Speaker 3: gummy bears and everyone poops some stuff. And I love

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Speaker 3: the ones that Cashi Golan where anything.

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Speaker 4: I guess I like the poopy ones like people like gas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this one isn't that? So this is called

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Speaker 3: love it first step. Tragedy by morning is the name

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Speaker 3: of the review. Amanda A.

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Speaker 2: Wrote it.

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Speaker 3: I had dreams, big ones, dreams of cute summer outfits,

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Speaker 3: long walks through the plant nursery, and compliments from strangers.

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Speaker 3: So when I finally splurged on these seventy dollars sandals,

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Speaker 3: I was ecstatic. The color stunning, like take your breath away, stunning,

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Speaker 3: better in person than I could have imagined. I slipped

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Speaker 3: them on and instantly felt like Cinderella if Cinderella had

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Speaker 3: art support.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I wore them to the.

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Speaker 3: Store for an hour and my feet were singing hallelujah.

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Speaker 3: I thought, this is it. These are the ones, my

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Speaker 3: forever shoes. I lovingly placed them back in their turquoise box,

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Speaker 3: ready for all the sunny adventures to come, and then

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Speaker 3: tragedy strung. I woke up the next morning to carnage,

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Speaker 3: a single sandal, chewed, maimed, a victim of betrayal by

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Speaker 3: my own four legged quote best friend. He didn't even

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Speaker 3: eat both, just one for sport for chaos. Now I'm

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Speaker 3: left with a single, heartbroken sandal that will never fulfill

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Speaker 3: its destiny. It just sits there staring at me like, why.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't I enough?

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Speaker 3: I don't have the funds to buy a replacement pair

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Speaker 3: and rehoming the dog was frowned upon. So here I

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Speaker 3: am shoeless, broke, and emotionally attached to a sandal that

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Speaker 3: will never walk again.

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Speaker 4: Here's the picture that's included. I'll have them put that

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Speaker 4: on Instagram stories.

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Speaker 3: I feel that pains so deeply. I've been there. This

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Speaker 3: was a review, and so the dogs well, and then

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Speaker 3: here's it.

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Speaker 2: Do people know not to bring their sandals around this? Dogs?

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Speaker 3: Just to tell you, like, you're gonna love this sandal

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Speaker 3: so much, but dog too.

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Speaker 2: It's a delicious sandal, said Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Can you recommend some cute yet comfy sandals for a

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Speaker 3: rude dude that with an.

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Speaker 4: On the go lifestyle?

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Speaker 3: So I'm here to say Birkstall books, although my other

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Speaker 3: favorites are a varcas, those Spanish ones.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna act like I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: So if you're into those, go for go for that.

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Speaker 2: But otherwise, does it look like something like a medieval

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Speaker 2: monk would wear?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, cool, they're cute.

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Speaker 2: Those are cool. Cute lately, I've been getting into the

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Speaker 2: tivas that look like sleeping bags. Oh I love Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you got Elizabeth.

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Speaker 4: Full attentions for your fat.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hook her up. It's more of

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Speaker 2: a slipper than a sandal, but they are nice. They're

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Speaker 2: called ember Is the is the hanger. Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: So yeah, now we're on a sandal kick. Thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you, rude dude, Dean. So that is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That is speaking of when you love something, you know,

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Speaker 2: like when we love something but not someone, but something right,

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Speaker 2: even if that's something is composed of some once something okay,

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Speaker 3: Please don't put your life in the hands of a

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Speaker 3: rock and roll band exactly.

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Speaker 2: Or the Eagles, the Philadelphia Eagles. Now we can often

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Speaker 2: lose our minds. Ye speaking of Eagles, for instance, there

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Speaker 2: was this explosion of fandom we all know about. I

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Speaker 2: believe when Elvis first became famous. He turned this whole

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Speaker 2: teeny bopper thing into like a thing because they've already

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Speaker 2: been Frank Sinatra with the Bobby socks ers in the forties.

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Speaker 2: But this was like a brand new thing. When they

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Speaker 2: onto airport TARMACX. It was nuts, right. And then ten

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Speaker 2: years later comes beatle Maine, even the craziest fandom we've

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Speaker 3: Legitimately, when you see those videos of the girls scream

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Speaker 2: Going at the Mets Stadium, where there's screaming is allowed,

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Speaker 3: Their faces, eating each other's arms, the cannibal sawing on heads.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth, Today, I want to tell you the story of

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Speaker 2: a ridiculous crime born of the mania, the madness known

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Speaker 2: as Beatlemania. Okay, this is ridiculous crime.

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Speaker 5: A podcast about absurd and out ages, capers, heists, and

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Speaker 5: cons it's always ninety nine percent murder free and one

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Speaker 5: hundred percent what one hundred percent what?

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: I'm a little late to that one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I want to take you back to the eighteen forties.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, per little thing, just a young girl.

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Speaker 2: As Listomania, Listomania. Now you ever heard of Listomania?

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Speaker 4: Great album?

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Speaker 2: It was the original insert name mania. Like you know,

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Speaker 2: there's Watergate, you know, and they turned it into a

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Speaker 2: So this mania, beatles Mania starts with Listomania, and it

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Speaker 2: was named after the Hungarian composer, rock star pianist of

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Speaker 2: the eighteen forties, Franz List. Yeah, now telling you he

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Speaker 2: was a real daddy. On April twenty fifth, eighteen forty four,

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Speaker 2: the German writer poet Heinrich Heine coined the phrase Listomania.

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Speaker 2: In the midst of this hysteria that had descended on

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Speaker 2: Now furs were going gaga, not just in Paris, but

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Speaker 4: Man he they they're dangerous when exciting.

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Speaker 2: Especially the French, get nervous. Now, my may and Heine

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Speaker 2: hein He put this in a letter and I quote

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Speaker 2: himself there, I shrugged my shoulders pityingly and thought, quite

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Speaker 2: a Sabbatarian. Germany does not wish to lose the opportunity

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Speaker 2: existing beyond the Rhine. Now, besides all of his sex

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Speaker 2: my man, Heinrich hein He dipped over to Venice for

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, right, so Franz List he's playing

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Speaker 2: at the Italian Opera House. He gives a concert. It

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Speaker 2: inspires the same hysterical response, just screamingmating paintings swaning out.

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Speaker 2: He is going nuts, losing their minds, jumping for balconies. Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to tell you some some people in the crowd,

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Speaker 2: they lost their continence. Now back to Heine Heine. This

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Speaker 2: was truly no germanically sentimental, sentimentalitizing berlinnate audience before which

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Speaker 2: And yet how convulsively his mere appearance affected them, how

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Speaker 2: boisterous was the applause, which rang to meet him. What

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Speaker 2: in the annals of Furor man. He's a fire sentimental sentimentality, sentimentality.

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Speaker 4: I think that his peers were like, dude, to d

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Speaker 4: let it go and then here talking about it? Are

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Speaker 2: When people speak of listomania, they don't often speak of

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Speaker 2: the music, but rather the reaction to the man, right

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Speaker 2: like list was apparently a very tall, handsome man. I

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Speaker 2: told you he was a daddy, and he was brilliant,

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Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping that he looked like a fraud. No, no,

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Speaker 3: you know, a rough a rough visage. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 3: But how great would that be if everyone's like, man,

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Speaker 2: That would be great. The beauty came and the simbola

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about that. He's not a looker. But people

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Speaker 2: those of it. It is true, Yeah, there you go,

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Speaker 2: list was this perfect combination, as I pointed out, moody, right,

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Speaker 2: So he was like this proto rock star. He was

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Speaker 2: like the world's first rock star, just a century early, right,

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Speaker 2: everything that you'd want. Also, he's a genius, so he's

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Speaker 2: doing like Jimmy Hendrick. Solo's interesting.

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Speaker 4: But on pian I like to imagine that he looks

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Speaker 2: You for everyone, I can't.

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Speaker 4: Imagine what in the past.

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Speaker 2: He's your new past guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's my new past guy because he fits it

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Speaker 4: like any age. It's just like he's like a little Tibeah.

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Speaker 2: You can put him almost like way back to Rome.

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Speaker 2: You're like, oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my he's my He's my default in the blanks.

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Speaker 2: Random was ever replace like your cumber bunch, cumber bund, bend, cumberbund,

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Speaker 2: what benefit.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: So there's once a contemporaneous report of this fans reaction,

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Speaker 2: and I quote from it. List once threw away an

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Speaker 2: old cigar stump in the street under the watchful eyes

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Speaker 2: of in infatuated lady in waiting, who reverently picked the

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Speaker 2: and went about her courtly duties unaware of the sickly

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Speaker 2: odor it gave. Fourth.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that's when you got too much money, right.

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Speaker 2: There are other reports of fans who grabbed up his

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Speaker 2: old coffee grounds and put them into a glass vial

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Speaker 2: and wore it around their neck like a magical amulet. Yes,

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Speaker 2: when he would play the piano, he was not to

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Speaker 2: play it so hard that they had like redesigned pianos,

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Speaker 2: and he would pound the keys like seriously with such

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Speaker 2: My birthday, August of sixty four, the Beatles met one

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Zarin. Now, I promise you a band called the

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Speaker 4: Yes you did.

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Speaker 2: Now they spelled that with two e's.

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Speaker 2: I want to fly like an eagle, Elizabeth, you know

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Speaker 2: So when the Beatles started to be famous, I said,

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Speaker 2: you know what, they're the English Beatles. I'm gonna make

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Speaker 3: This is like, can you imagine you're a tourist from

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Speaker 2: So this is a great documentary from twenty fifteen, all

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Speaker 2: our story. The music promoter Impressario Rudy Duclos. Duclos, he

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Speaker 2: Buerredes Are is gonna be huge. So contracts drawn up, signed,

435
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: show posters printed up Beatles to ease, and then the

436
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: big announcement hits the South American press. The two East

437
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: part isn't made as clear. The press reports it like

438
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 2: the real English Beatles are coming to Buenos Aires. The

439
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 2: kids go wild, they can't believe it. They're like Buenos

440
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,239
Speaker 2: Aires the Beatles, right, the mop tops from Livertol are

441
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: gonna be in Argentina. So in Peru the newspapers are

442
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: equally excited. They're like, the famous Beatles will come in May,

443
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: and like that's wrong. The details get worked out, the

444
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 2: tour gets started, it's set up for July. Then when

445
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: that fateful month rolls around, the Beatles with two e's

446
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: they load up on a jet air liner, just like

447
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: Steve Miller would sing about it, and they ring on

448
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: down to Buenos Aires.

449
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 3: Right.

450
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: And in case you were wondering, how could this all

451
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 2: go down in international newspapers and not get back to

452
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: the real Beatles, like or their management, Elizabeth, you have

453
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: to understand this is nineteen sixty four and the newspapers

454
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: were in Spanish. And also the Beatles management largely ignored

455
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: South America because the markets weren't big enough, so the

456
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: promoters they left the podcasts.

457
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: That's where the big concerts.

458
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah always yeah, yeah, yeah, Brazil. I mean, come on now,

459
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: if you're wondering where the real Beatles were in the

460
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: summer of sixty four, like, can they be on the road?

461
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: Could someone see that they are clearly not coming to

462
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 2: Buenos Aires. No, because they were on a break, not

463
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: like from each other. They were just taking a break

464
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: from touring and they've been touring hard for years now.

465
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: So they're back in the UK, nobody really knows where,

466
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: and they're rehearsing and getting ready to go back into

467
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: the studio in August and record their next album, Beatles

468
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: for Sale. Okay, so meanwhile, down to South America, the

469
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: Beatles with two e's are about her arrive in Buenos

470
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 2: Aires airport right when they do. Since they are believed

471
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: to be the real Beatles, the kids act accordingly. They

472
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: come out by the thousands to scream and faint and

473
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: go crazy at the sight of John Paul, Georgia Ringo.

474
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: But it's not the boys from Liverpool. It's Tom Bill,

475
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: Dave and vic I guess they looked enough like the

476
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: real Beatles that early on the South American crowd's tricked.

477
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: They believe it's really their British heroes of rock and roll.

478
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: Question is like, how close.

479
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: They look reasonably close from a distance. The hair's right,

480
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: the heights are right, you know. So they're doing the

481
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: whole Beatles Mania thing, screaming, breaking down fences, trying to

482
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: get onto the tarmac to rush their favorite band. The

483
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: impresario Duclos he had truly done his part to gin

484
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: up publicity or the arrival of the Beatles with two e's.

485
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: Now this said totally shameless lies in every country's press,

486
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: he can tell. So there's also an Argentina media mogul

487
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: named Alejandro Rome who struck a deal with the Beatles

488
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: with two E's to come to his network, Channel nine

489
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: and repeat their magical performance they did on The Sullivan

490
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: Show in America. And he's not alone. His rivals at

491
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: Channel thirteen also want the Beatles with two e's to

492
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: come to do their Ed Sullivan magic on their network,

493
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 2: and so do close The promoter's are cool, cool, yeah,

494
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: totally books them both on both networks. So for the

495
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 2: same night, same night, the arrival night when they get there.

496
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: So both channels show up at the airport looking to

497
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: grab the Beatles and take them to their performance. Right, so,

498
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: the band arrives at the airport, they hear that they're

499
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: supposed to go to two different studios at the same time,

500
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: and their agents like, no, no, no, we only have

501
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: a contract with one of you. So the two networks,

502
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 2: Channel nine and Channel thirteen, they had different strengths, Elizabeth,

503
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: I'll just put it that way. The media mogul Alejandro Rome,

504
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: he had the contract which was enforceable, but Channel thirteen

505
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: had more like a verbal contract. But more importantly, their

506
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: ownership was tight with the authorities, which ultimately gave them

507
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: an upper hand because at the time Argentina was under

508
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: a military dictatorship. So they flexed out at the airport.

509
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 2: And as their agent tells it myself, as the agent,

510
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: I said, no, we never signed a contract with you.

511
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: But he was very friendly with the police chief at

512
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: the airport and they locked us up in the jail.

513
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: So they get locked up in jail at the airport.

514
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: Right now, the Americanos don't speak Spanish, so their manager,

515
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: Bob Yory is looking around and asking what's happening. What's

516
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: going on? What did he say? What does that mean?

517
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: Where are they taking us? Instead, they're getting bag taken

518
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: off to jail. They haven't even left the airport. Their

519
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: agent is cool headed, so he calls the American consulate.

520
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: Somebody comes down and he put it. He came down

521
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: and said no, he has a contract, and then they

522
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 2: let us out of jail. So problem solved.

523
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, is there no red flag that they called the

524
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 4: American Yeah?

525
00:25:54,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: Exactly. So meanwhile, South American medium mogul Alejhan Rome well

526
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: aware of the facts of life in South America, which

527
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: means he's used to working around the authorities. He comes

528
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: up with an unorthodox way to get them out of

529
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: this airport. He went to the local luchadors, the professional wrestlers,

530
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: and he cuts aside too. In Argentina at the time,

531
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: there's this popular show called Titanes in el Ring, which

532
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: means the Titans in the Ring. It was a professional

533
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: wrestling show and one of the stars was named Karajian. Right,

534
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: I think he was Armenian because the way they spell

535
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: it at his love This guys an Armenian wrestler down

536
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: in South America killing it. So the media mogul I

537
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: hung a Rome. He calls Karajian and he said, and

538
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: I quote, I want all of your heavyweights at my command.

539
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: The guys came to see me, and then we went

540
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 2: to Azithia. From there we hired an eight passenger plane.

541
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: Then the bodyguards.

542
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 6: As soon as they get off the plane, they went

543
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 6: directly through the tunnel. The bodyguards went over and they

544
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 6: covered the guys and they practically hung them on their

545
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 6: own shoulders.

546
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: So now all these professional wrestlers show up at airport.

547
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: They grabbed the fake beetles, throw them on and they

548
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: go and me t and then the police come along

549
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: because now they've been told like, oh, you got to

550
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: listen to the American consulates. So they're like okay, you know,

551
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: they form a V, like a wedge, like a like

552
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: like on a kickoff, like how they formed a V.

553
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: So the professional wrestlers get between this V of police

554
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: carrying the pretend beatles on their shoulder and they go

555
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: to rush them back onto the tarmac. Because remember there's

556
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: fans everywhere screaming and going crazy. So they do they

557
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: de side. They're gonna fend off the thousands of crazy

558
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: fans were now trying to rush on to get to them,

559
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: and some of them are some of them getting through

560
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: the fences, and that you got kids in media. And

561
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: then there's also Channel thirteen. People are still trying to

562
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: get the Beatles and pull them away. So the professional

563
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: wrestlers tell the fake Beatles their plan, according to manager

564
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: Bob Yoriy, goes like this, you guys get inside the V.

565
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: So we got inside the V. He says, when we

566
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: start running, don't stop, just continue running. And then they

567
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: were knocking people over and we had to run to

568
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: get out of the airport. So now the fake Beatles,

569
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: they're like a football player back across the tarmac. And

570
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: there's Alejandro Rome who is here. He remembers it because

571
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: he's like he rented the eight person passenger plane.

572
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 6: Everybody was chasing them, the police, the people from Channel thirteen,

573
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 6: the judge.

574
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: This is legitimately, this is like when you take a

575
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: bunch of nipel and you wake like okay side the stream.

576
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: And it was like the Beatles, but not really the Beatles.

577
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: And then there were all these and the.

578
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Judge is really mad.

579
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 4: There was a judge there and the kids were jumping

580
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: on us and like, so this whole.

581
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Time, Rome he's waiting on the plane watching this. So

582
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: when the boys make it to the eight passenger plane,

583
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: he tells the pilots take off, so then they take

584
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: off right the mediam Ogle stays one step ahead of

585
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: everyone because he has a plane landed a small airport

586
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: and he says.

587
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 6: I had the trucks everything set up. We got there,

588
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 6: went to a hotel in the suburbs in San Elmo.

589
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 6: Nobody knew about it, and we locked them up.

590
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: So now the Beatles are locked up in the suburban hotel.

591
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 4: However, the rivals teenagers.

592
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: From Miami who do not speak Spanish. So the rivals

593
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: every Channel thirteen had some subterfuge of their own. They

594
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: seized fake ringo so that as the lead guitarist Bill

595
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: and remembered it, our drummer was kidnapped by a different

596
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: station and they went through a whole thing to get

597
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: them back. So they had to like negotiate to get

598
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: the drummer back. After this airport scene with the professional wrestlers,

599
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: the kidnapped drummer then comes their first appearance on South

600
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: American TV. This same day, a show called The Laughter festival,

601
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: which seems kind of fitting. The studio audience is packed

602
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: with screaming teens losing their minds. They were about to

603
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: share the same air with John, Paul, George and Ringo.

604
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Let alone hear them play, right. Meanwhile, backstage, the American

605
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: Beatles went through their personal pre show rituals. They're musicians, right,

606
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: and they can hear the crowd losing it, And I

607
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: just had to wonder, did they think the kids in

608
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: South America would go nuts for a tribute band like that,

609
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: or did they begin to suspect that these kids have

610
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: been told that they were about to hear the real

611
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: Beatles perform, or did they know and they didn't care?

612
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: They're like, how do we pass ourselves off as the Beatles?

613
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: They had to know, and they thought, let's do it

614
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: as close as we can.

615
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's they go out and the go let's

616
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: go pull off this con jobs Florida style. So Elizabeth

617
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: the band comes out on stage. The crowd los is it?

618
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: They lose ever loving minds and they're wearing the right suits,

619
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: the hair, mop top, everything's correct. It's true Beatles Mania now,

620
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: just with a Spanish accent. The host introduces them loos

621
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: American beatles, and he says American a little quiet, but

622
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: he says, oh, some American beatles. Now the band plays

623
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: their first song, when the kids in the crowd get

624
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: a good look at him, they're like, it's not Paul.

625
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 2: And at some point some young fans realized that they

626
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: were lied to, they were coned, they were bamboozled. Song,

627
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: they're trust betrayed. Now they lose it the other way.

628
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: They start to sob, some are inconsolable, some are pissed.

629
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: They're getting mad right, and I have to wonder what

630
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: did the band think then, when halfway through their first song,

631
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: half the crowd is in tears and the other half

632
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: is semi.

633
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: Piss like adrenaline crash.

634
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: Also, there's some debate about if they actually played live

635
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: or if it was lip syncing. In the documentary, some

636
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: of the people will remember one way, some people remember

637
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: it the other way. Bill Oni, the lead guitarist, he says,

638
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: they played live. Absolutely. When I watched the footage, it

639
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: definitely feels live to me. Like they play so their

640
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: voices don't match the record. I mean it's like yeah,

641
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: and they don't sound that great. So they play a

642
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: few songs, and if you ask the media mogul Alejandro Rome,

643
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: he'll just tell you people went crazy. They bought it.

644
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: So that sounds accurate. Right from the footage, the kids

645
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: are clapping in Unison, they're loving it. Yeah, some of

646
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: them are upset, like the ones who were closer to

647
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: the power upset. But I can't say now. If you

648
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: ask a Roberto Monfort who worked at Channel nine at

649
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: the time, he would tell you when they went on

650
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: the air, Yes, the people realized they were not the

651
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: real Beatles, but the fake Beatles. There were some people

652
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: were having fun, but others were waiting for the real

653
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: Beatles and they felt defrauded. So back to our media

654
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 2: mogul Alejandro Rome, who clearly aware of this lie at

655
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: the time, he's nowhere to be found. He according to

656
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: his own account, he told his staff, I want no

657
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: part in this lie to the people.

658
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 6: I'll take a plane and go to punto Doreste.

659
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: So he goes to this beach resource and he basically

660
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: just hides out and he waits to find out how

661
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: well the defrauding works. Now, as Rome tells it, he

662
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: told his stuff, I don't want to know a thing

663
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: about what's going on.

664
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: So then I'm going to go to a beach resort.

665
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: Just don't tell me anything about this, but.

666
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: He starts to get reports because it's going it actually

667
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: goes well. They had a sixty three, Well, we had

668
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: sixty three rating points with the Beatles. I think it

669
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: was the highest peak in the channel's history. So after

670
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: this initial rocky start to their South American tour, the

671
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: American Beatles still had a bunch of gigs to play

672
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: in all the neighboring countries. So their book to play

673
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: soccer stadiums, which is promising because at that distance, fans

674
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: won't be able to tell that they're the real Beatles

675
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: or not. Plus there's lots of people who knew that

676
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: they were the fake Beatles at this point because it

677
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: starts coming out in the press, like the journalists are

678
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: like this is bs, and the people still came out

679
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: to see them. So we got both kinds of fools,

680
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: but the willful and the like gullible. Yeah, and to

681
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: be fair, like these people just wanted to get as

682
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: close to Beatles Mania as they could. Like I don't

683
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: judge them, I've been that fool. Like I'm totally I'm

684
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: not saying like, how man, they can they believe you're

685
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: that trick.

686
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: There's probably a lot of people who are like, there's

687
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: these fake Beatles going around.

688
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: People are losing it to see that totally.

689
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: And then also this one guy made a point I

690
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: really liked, is this eloquent sweater wearing like dude in

691
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: the documentary he says, and I quote, it's striking because

692
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: people went to see something knowing it was not the

693
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: real thing. It was like watching a fantasy. You know

694
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: when you go to see a magician it's not really

695
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: magic or alchemy that you know their tricks, that it's

696
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: a manipulation over the spectator's fantasies, right, and yet you

697
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: know you're going to be tricked. It wasn't Paul McCartney,

698
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: but it was the next best thing at the moment.

699
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: So it's like a very South American view of like, exactly,

700
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: this is as close as we're gonna get to the Beatles.

701
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna get as close as we can.

702
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you go and these people go to

703
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: see cover band because you like the song, I want it,

704
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: And then the people in the cover band try really

705
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: hard to like hew to the look and the vibe.

706
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: Especially the vibe. Yeah, they can't get the look right.

707
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: They want to right and like have the like attitude,

708
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: the right hand gestures or whatever. So Elizabeth, there's still

709
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: the big question you keep, you keep kind of asking,

710
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: and I don't and I do not answer it, which

711
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: is how much did they sound like the Beatles? Yes,

712
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: three questions, very elemental genius. Now, trouble for the American

713
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: Beetles to East was their imitation was not very convincing. Yeah,

714
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: if you ask the lead guitarist Bill Andy, the way

715
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: he remembers it, quote, mostly everybody really liked her music,

716
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: and what we were doing is usually a certain element

717
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: of people jealous guys you know, like a.

718
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: Two pack of day habit and played the banjo.

719
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, whatever, So manager Bob, you already remembers it

720
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: a little differently. He was, like, I remember in some

721
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: of the soccer stadiums, you had a few guys throwing

722
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: coins right now, not as a tip or a company,

723
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: like they could I could reach the stage, you know,

724
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: like I can get this metal up there. Now. Back

725
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: to the lead guitarist Bill Andi, Yeah, sometimes they threw coins,

726
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: maybe rocks. I mean like we do a concert and

727
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: then like have to get the hell out of there.

728
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

729
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: Despite their constant harassment by angry, conned and defrauded fans,

730
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: the American Beatles did make a stop in the record

731
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 2: booth and they while they toured the continent, they recorded

732
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: a seven inch record in Argentina on Sadday. There's the

733
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: track lohisiste or in English, you did it to me?

734
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: And then there's also the track nicas mala, which in

735
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: English is don't be unkind. That one was one. It

736
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: was an American Beatles original written by the band Wow.

737
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: On the B side, they opened up with a grandia

738
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: and an English that's big day. And then they also

739
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: had another one cominando Canina, which is walking with Me Baby.

740
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: So however, their seven inch did not rocket up the

741
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: South American charts. It got airplay though it did get

742
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: airplay a bunch of airplay, mostly the South American press, though,

743
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: just took turns savaging the fake Beatles, like the bands

744
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: would come to a town to play for some con

745
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: crowd of screaming kids, and the press would like then

746
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: review the woeful show and just rip it from like

747
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: bo to stern.

748
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: Were they singing in Spanish?

749
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: Uh?

750
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: Keep that mind that question in mind when they were Yeah,

751
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: the headlines from these shows, Elizabeth, the Beatles showed that

752
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: all the talent they have is in their hair. Another

753
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: newspaper wrote that they are awful. One newspaper called them

754
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: anti melodic. The Peruvian paper Chronica wrote that the whole

755
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: South American tour was quote a farce, far greater than

756
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: their disputed male prisons.

757
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: Oh those.

758
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: I don't speak South American machismo, but I think the

759
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: newspaper is going them loss. By the way, that's not

760
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: a real Spanish word. I just made it, but somehow

761
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: you knew exactly what I meant to. Now anyway, that's

762
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: how their South American cash grab was going. But now

763
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: was it really a good cash grab? Great question, Elizabeth,

764
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: Such a good question. Remember how I said the Argentina

765
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: and Brazil were under military dictatorships in the mid sixties. Yes,

766
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: I think I said Argenta Brazil was too. Well. That

767
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,479
Speaker 2: also played into the fate of the American Beatles two weeks.

768
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: Juntas were not fans of the real Beatles because of

769
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: their liberal anti authority politics. Remember they were like grow

770
00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: your hair out and the authority of it. In South America.

771
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: This youth mania was definitely something to be quashed, no

772
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: holding of hands. So the military junta was definitely also

773
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: not fan of a cash grab meant to con and

774
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: also get that same mania. Go, I feel like you're

775
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: doing the same thing, just for less good reasons. So

776
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: the military junta step into the picture. They shut down

777
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: the fake Beetles, like at least their airplay. So like

778
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: the Buenos Airest Radio Freedom and its Administrative Commission, they

779
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: banned the American Beetles in their seven inch from being

780
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: played on the Argentinian airway. So maybe they would have

781
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: gone rocketing up charts. Who's to say without the repression.

782
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: Who me Now? The reasons that they cited was that

783
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: the band and its imitation shaggy mop top hair was

784
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: quote sexually ambiguous, And they're like, well, Elizibe, you have

785
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: to understand a junta wants clear gender divides, because otherwise

786
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: how do you know who gets rights and who doesn't.

787
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: That is true, right exactly. So now the American Beetles

788
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: knew that back home in America they would never enjoyed

789
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: the sort of sick says that they were having in

790
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: South America. In Peru, Argentina, Uruguay and being young men

791
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: at the time, really more like boys. They enjoyed it

792
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: to its fullest and all the ways you would imagine

793
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: being the Beatles. Now they got it. All while of

794
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: getting was good, but eventually the getting would not be

795
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: so good. After this break, Elizabeth, we'll hear how the

796
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: rest of the American Beatles American Invasion of South America

797
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: plays out. Elizabeth, We're back. You're ready for more of

798
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: the American Beetles in their world tour.

799
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: I really am one of them, blonde.

800
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: No, they look like the Beatles ish you.

801
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 4: Know, by the CIA.

802
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: That would be amazing because I mean they're going down

803
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: there around the day.

804
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: So one moment I forgot to tell you about was

805
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 2: that when the American beatlesman on Argentine TV and played

806
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: the Ritchie Valains hit LaBamba. You asked earlier, did they

807
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: sing a Spanish They sang one song?

808
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 4: How good that song is?

809
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a great song. Yeah.

810
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 4: I like the the cover by those Lobos.

811
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: Yes, that's amazing. Yeah, totally. No, I don't know if

812
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: since she asked, yeah, I was just about to. It

813
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: was on the tip of my tongue. Now I don't

814
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: know if that was the only Spanish song they knew.

815
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: But it's phenomenal footage, Like I watched the footage, right,

816
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: it's their encore. The kids are chanting, oh trah, oh

817
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: tro and they come out and they play LaBamba and

818
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: they're like they sing some of the words and then

819
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: they hum sang some of the Spanish because I don't

820
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: think they know all of the song. It's this perfect

821
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: silly moment in world culture. Like it's just awesome. So, okay,

822
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: enough about Argentina because next up fascist Spain. Oh yeah.

823
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: After they after they conquered the South American pop scene,

824
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, where else can we take this show

825
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: a little Spanish? You know the exactly They're like, right,

826
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: who else speaks Spanish around here?

827
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

828
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: And so they took their American vasion, the American Beatles

829
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: take the show on the road, and they think, let's

830
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: go to Europe and play a few gigs for the

831
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: kids living under Franco and his Spanish fascism in the

832
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties. Now, if you asked the band or their manager,

833
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: Bob Yori, he will tell you as he does in

834
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: the documentary, and I quote, we went to South Paulo

835
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: Rio de Janeiro, Lima, Peru. But we didn't get any

836
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: dates in Europe because naturally, the Beatles are from England Europe,

837
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: so we never got anything there, you know, but naturally. However,

838
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: the weird thing is Elizabeth. There are numerous reports of

839
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: the American Beatles playing a gig in Madrid, like full

840
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: on newspaper stories. Really yeah, and here's the poster announcing

841
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: the show. Oh my god, wait that one day is

842
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: kind of blonde the Beatles. They just took the Beatles'

843
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: heads and put the Beatles heads on the poster. But

844
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: see how says the American Beatles. Yeah look, well no,

845
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: you're right, yeah, no, those are them, but they're all

846
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: brown brunettes. Yeah, so you can see like they kind

847
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: of favor anyway, they do not the American from like

848
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: you squitched your eyes, you were like gaslight. It's really

849
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: that you're hungover and you can't see well, I mean

850
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: people in the minds. So the American Beatles and Repidante Spectacular,

851
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: I mean it says that right there on the poster

852
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: they're going to play a show at the Plaza de

853
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: Toros Delavas in Madrid. Now on Saturday the nineteenth, a

854
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: ten forty five at night. This is all on the poster.

855
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: So I don't know what the manager, Bob Yory, how

856
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: he could forget playing in Madrid. Well, but he swears

857
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: they never win. I found people online who talked about

858
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: like I was there, I saw the show.

859
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: Is that a shadow American Beatles? Is there another good question?

860
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: Well, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna We're just

861
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: gonna We're just gonna make up our own version of

862
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: events true American Beatles fashions, which means, Elizabeth, I want

863
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: you to close your eyes. I want you to picture it.

864
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: It's Saturday the nineteenth, let's say August nineteen sixty four

865
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: in Madrid in Franco's Spain, and you, Elizabeth, are presently

866
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: backstage at the Plaza de Toros Delaventas. You're there because

867
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: you are a local press photographer sent to cover this

868
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: spectacle of modern rhythm. You snap some shots of the

869
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: boys backstage getting ready for the show, some nice candid shots.

870
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: If they were a real famous band, these would be

871
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: iconic shots from their early days. Instead, it's evidence of

872
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: musical fraud. Either way, great shots. Elizabeth as a makeup

873
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: artist helps the American Beatles get their mop tops right.

874
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: You snap another couple candid shots reminiscent of the shots

875
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: of the real Beatles backstage. The illusion is so compelling.

876
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: Outside of the dressing room, you can hear the frenzied

877
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: crowd waiting for the show. The Spanish youth are clapping

878
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: and chanting in unison like it's a match. They are

879
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: eager for the lost Beatles, the Meericanos. Their manager comes

880
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: in and says, done for the show. The band looks up,

881
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: they look ready. Through your camera lens, you watches these

882
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: four young kids, Tom, Bill, Dave and Vic grab their

883
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: instruments and run out on stage. It's wild and your

884
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: viewfinder you can swear it's the real Beatles. You don't

885
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: seem too well. The boys have god damn good at

886
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: pulling off this illusion. Later, you listen from the wings

887
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: as you change rolls of film in your camera, and

888
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: you gaze out at the youthful crowd as they clap

889
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: in times of the poor impression of twist and shouts.

890
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: And later still the band skips their cover version of

891
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: LaBamba for the kids in Madrid, they stick to Beatles classics.

892
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: You snap more shots. Fast forward to after the show,

893
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: as Spanish kids pour out of the bullfighting ring, amped

894
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: up on the magic of the fake Beatles. You snap

895
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: picks of these raw boned, eager Spanish youth all fired

896
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: up on the rhythms of rebellion as they start to

897
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: vandalize the downtown. This is the powers of this Beatles

898
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: inspired youth rebellion. The kids don't even need the real

899
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: thing to go crazy, that's how ready they are to

900
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: buck the old ways. They can get fired up at

901
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: a tribute band. But standing there watching it all through

902
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: your camera lens, you see how from Madrid to Metro

903
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Detroit kids are all the same.

904
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 4: They just wrecked shop.

905
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the reports. Yeah, that's the report. And then

906
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: the press, the Franco press use that for a crackdown. Sure,

907
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: they say they post show vandalism. They're like, oh, look,

908
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: kids obviously need strong hand, so I know they got

909
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: like yeah, like they crush rebellious youth culture well into

910
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: the seventies. That's It's if this show even ever happened.

911
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: They remember, it's debatable. There's still a question about it.

912
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 4: What happened that is making them deny.

913
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: Exactly and Franco died in seventies. I mean, like thought, Elizabeth,

914
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: thank you so. In an interview with the press in Spain,

915
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: apparently the American Beetles said they'd been playing their music

916
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: their way for five years and if anything, it was

917
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: the English Beatles that were copying them.

918
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love it.

919
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: Once again. That's some hoodspookes. That's like John Lennon saying

920
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: that the Beatles were bigger than Jesus Christ, like the

921
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: way to go, fake Beetles.

922
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: What if they actually were the Beetles?

923
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: There you go, and they were just playing under like

924
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: like assumed names.

925
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: They put on like Latex masks that were supplied by

926
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: the CIA, and then they would.

927
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Go disrupt Franco fascism, except for the CIA probably supported

928
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: coming together. So I'm December two of South America sixty four.

929
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: The American Beetles returned home to the US, and they

930
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: didn't immediately fall into obscurity. But the cash grab was done,

931
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: or is their manager, Bob you already put it? It

932
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: was over. It was finished. You know, like when you

933
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: take a wash cloth and you rang out the water

934
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: and there's just no more water. You can't do it anymore.

935
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: He had wrung out all the value the kid from

936
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: these kids.

937
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 4: And he's got strong hands.

938
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: Oh he does, I'm talking nits. So they left their

939
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: impression on the youth of South America because soon there

940
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: was this wave of Spanish language and Portuguese language Beetles

941
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: tribute bands all over South America. So they have all

942
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: these shaggy mop top, long haired kids pretending to be

943
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: loose Beetles Americanos, pissing off the autocratic leaders of their

944
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: respective nations. So you get like the band like Los

945
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: Bujos from are Indiana. They told the press that they

946
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: were quote more than the Beatles. Oh yeah, that's the

947
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: energy it is. And for many of the South American youth,

948
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: while their introduction to the Beatles may have been their

949
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: American Beatles, that was good enough for them to go

950
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: find the actual, real deal English Beetles. And then they

951
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: would watch like a hard day's night.

952
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 4: And then they all disappointed.

953
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: No, no, they got all. They changed their lives. Bands

954
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: reformed culture was translated youth inspired youth Elizabeth. It was

955
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: a beautiful time. So in a tiny way, the American

956
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: Beetles were part of that youth rebellion of the early

957
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: sixties in South American culture. Interestingly, the real Beatles never

958
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: played in South America. Really, the promoters couldn't afford the

959
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: booking fees of the real Beatles, so the American Beatles

960
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: truly were as close as the people were going to

961
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: get or couldn't get, which also explains the magic trick.

962
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: The kids are willing to let be pulled in front

963
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: of them. They knew where they lived and how things work.

964
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: They're like, the Beatles ain't come to South America.

965
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: They wouldn't, they wouldn't adjust their fees to make it something.

966
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: Elizabeth, you're such a dreamer. But these South American kids

967
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: they take whatever Beatles they could get, and they got

968
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: the Beatles they could. So at the end of the documentary,

969
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: this interesting question comes up. Did the real Beatles ever

970
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: meet the fake Beatles?

971
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 4: Well, that's a very good question answer for asking.

972
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, or at least that's what they told Dick

973
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: Clark when they were on American Bandstand.

974
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: When the American Beatles were Yes, okay.

975
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: One of the good questions one of the bandmates, he

976
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: told him, yeah, we met him in Miami. So the

977
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: story goes at a nightclub owned by their manager Bobby Ory.

978
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: He what Bobby Ory tell it? I had them play

979
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: at my club in Miami. The American Beatles are coming here,

980
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: blah blah blah poster in the meantime, who arrives in Florida?

981
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: But John, Paul, George and Ringo. So now, when the

982
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: American Beatles were on Dick clark Show, he asked about

983
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: this unlikely cosmic karmic collision of real and fake Beatles.

984
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: Dick Clark asked the band, and you know, did you

985
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: guys go out to see the real Beatles and they

986
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: let you come backstage? And one band mate, I think

987
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: it was Dave, He's like, no, they came to see us.

988
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: We were playing at a club in Miami and they

989
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: came in. So hearing that happened, Dick Clark's like, he

990
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: was incredulous. As you look right now, He asked, so,

991
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: what was their reaction to seeing you? And again I

992
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: think it was Dave, he says, they were friendly. I mean,

993
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: Ringo and Paul got up to dance to our music

994
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: and that made us feel rather.

995
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 4: You know, it came to us those totally Beatles impersonators.

996
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. So Dick Clark pulls the mic back from

997
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: them after you say that, and he's like, so the

998
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: Beatles were dancing to the Beatles music, right, and even

999
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: if it's a lie, it's fun to picture.

1000
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1001
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: So, after all the Beatles mania died down and their

1002
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: washcloth of cash grab was giving up no more water,

1003
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: the band moved a on. They changed their name to

1004
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: the Razor's Edge, and then they cut a single. As

1005
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: the Rager says, it was released on POW That's with

1006
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: an exclamation point Records, and this was nineteen sixty six.

1007
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 2: That single went nowhere. They did have a small hit though,

1008
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: with their later single Let's Call It a Day Girl

1009
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: A Date that wasn't enough to get The Razor's Edge

1010
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: back to the lofty heights of success if they tasted

1011
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: in South America. The band eventually broke up. They called

1012
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 2: it a dig Girl, and they went their separate ways.

1013
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: But they'd done their damage in their short time, so

1014
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: much so that in September of sixty four, when A

1015
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: Hard Day's Night actually came out the movie about the

1016
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Beatles early fame, the Beatles publicity Machine had to add

1017
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: the clarification these are the authentic ones. So there you

1018
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: go the story of the American Beatles their American invasion

1019
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: of South America in the days.

1020
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed you didn't do a deep dive into the

1021
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: wear they now like, I want like Facebook profiles.

1022
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, A couple of them passed away recently. The

1023
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: rest are still no.

1024
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: No.

1025
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: I just I just happened to know that from reading

1026
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: the stories.

1027
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: Were you behind that.

1028
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: I do not have to answer those questions, Elizabeth. I

1029
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 2: am not under investigation act the press.

1030
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: You're like this black widow storytellery exactly. I don't want

1031
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: them to argue the facts.

1032
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: So I'm a Jesa Fletcher of storytelling. Don't let him

1033
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: tell your story. So what's the ridiculous takeaway.

1034
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: The man.

1035
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: You know, any of these manias.

1036
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: It's funny how people are willing to kind of like

1037
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: let themselves go completely into it and then also look past.

1038
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 4: Everyone likes the story.

1039
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: We love magicians, and we're willing to tolerate mine.

1040
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 4: And there's but I'm still this is like lying to

1041
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 4: Dick Clark about like.

1042
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: It's okay, ringos like boping door mean, like if we play.

1043
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: It cool, they'll come up. That's what about you?

1044
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: What's your ridiculous take on my ridiculous takeaway is can

1045
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: you imagine being an eighteen year old being treated like

1046
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: the Beatles in South America?

1047
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah, right, that's wild.

1048
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, there it is. You're in the mover.

1049
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: Talk back, Dave, just wash it all down. Let's do this.

1050
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: Oh God, I love get.

1051
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 7: Hey, Saron and Elizabeth. I was just listening to your

1052
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 7: episode on Jeffrey Manchester The roof Man, and since I

1053
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,279
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1054
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 7: he was holed up. And because Circuit City and Toys

1055
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 7: our Rest don't exist anymore, I can report that the

1056
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 7: things that are there are a carpet warehouse and a

1057
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 7: modern church.

1058
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: I love the show.

1059
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,680
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1060
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:47,160
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1061
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,480
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1063
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1064
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