1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: So it is a must. We cannot do anything here 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: on this edition of Cards Covered two presented by Hunday 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: without first saying a very special happy birthday to the 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Goats Larry Fitzgerald, who turns not thirty seven years old 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: but MJ thirty seven years young. Yes, and he's going 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: to a seventeen seasons so that means he was drafted 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: at the age of twenty maybe and then turned twenty 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: one that August. So you know, he's a guy that 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: obviously was able to work to syst him in college football, 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: you usually got to be three years removed from high school. 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: And he goes to a Forge Academy school, it goes 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: to pitt for a couple of years, and the rest 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: is history. Now, I texted Larry this morning. I wish 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: him happy birthday. You know, he says me, thank you, Mike, 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: you have a great day. At least he was polite 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: about it. At least you weren't Brett Hunley, who earlier 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: today said quote, he's an old man, but he's still bawling. 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: He is bawling, And like I said, I think the 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: offseason has helped him and some other guys made it 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: their thirty plus you know, guys like Corey Peters and 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, obviously some of the linemen you look at, 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying justin busehold, but you know, 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: just to wear and tear, and I think it's really 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: going to benefit this team going into the season. But 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: the fact that Larry's still doing it at a high 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: level is remarkable. Well, the only one who can come 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: close to Fits is well, his former classmate at Pittsburgh, 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Andy Lee. Enter in his seventeenth season in the league. 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: I think we kind of all forget about him just 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: one barably because he's a punter, but and he hasn't 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: been here as long, at least with the Cardinals then Fits. 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: But Andy Lee is up there as well. Well, I'm 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: glad you mentioned him. Unfortunately, he's probably not his birthday today. 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Remember when the Cardinals had like Andy Lee and maybe 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: he was Jay Feely And you're looking at how many 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: guys they have were thirty five And it's so misleading 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: because usually a lot you snapper, if you're Aaron Brewer, 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: you can last forever if you're obviously the Cardinals have 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: a young kicker in Zaying Gonzalez, but sometimes those numbers 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: can tilt the scales a little bit. Usually the average 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: age on the rosters like twenty seven twenty six, depending 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: on you know, obviously how many guys have over thirty. 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: But you know, Andy Lee is a weapon, and when 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: we're not talking about it, it's probably a good thing. Yeah. 45 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: Usually it's specialists. And now we're seeing quarterbacks as well 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: that can play up into their thirties. They're late thirties 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: and if you're Tom Brady, into your forties as well. 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: It's highly unusual to see a wide receiver outside of 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: a Jerry Rice playing at the age of thirty seven 50 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: and playing at a high level. True. I mean, the 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: guy doesn't drop the ball. You gotta think he's going 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: to be, you know, either in the inside or outside. 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Come week one, we know they found the next receiver 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins. So yeah, it's just you know, it's 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: just marveling, you know. I think we're lucky to watch him. 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: I hope people don't take it for granted. Well, how 57 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: about this. He was given today off. We assume he 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: was seen during the open portion of practice, but not participating, 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: although as we've seen when he's had these days off 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: him Jay he's always with his position group. He's either 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: tossing the football, he's either pulling a player aside. He 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: is always around and we even saw it during the 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: red and white practice, and you might have seen it 64 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: as well on twelve News when it reaired on Saturday night. 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: He's behind the offense, and you're talking about not the 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: first team when they're on the field, second team, third team. 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: He is looking much like a head Coachwood standing behind 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: five seven yards behind the offense, looking at what they 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: are doing and offering encouragement and offering constructive criticism when needed. 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, why wouldn't you listen now? Again, he's going 71 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: to stay in his lane. But obviously he knows the 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: game like the back of his hand. And I think 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: the play he referred to was probably when eno benchman 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: was running and wild. And you know Larry's he likes 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: every guy in the locker room. But you know, you 76 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: look at a guy that obviously played his college ball 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: here and you know, obviously he's fighting for a roster spot, 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: even though you know, depending on how many they keep there, 79 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: him and DJ Foster, but you know, you just see Larry, 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: he's so excited and when a guy like Andy Isabella 81 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: catches a ball or Keyshawn Johnson or Keim Butler, even 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: Trent Sherfield, he goes over there and gives them, you know, 83 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, a high five, or you know they'll do 84 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: to the hip thing. You know, obviously social distancing, so 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: to speak. But you know, it's just he's rooting for 86 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: his teammates. It's not like, you know, it's all about 87 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzherald. It's the opposite. It's almost like he gets 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: more joyous out of seeing his teammates success than his 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: own success. Good point, and that's something that you see 90 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: out of players and even business people and outside of 91 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: the professional ranks, because there are people like Fits who 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: are great at what they do, don't like talking about it, 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: don't like being highlighted for it, outside of you know, 94 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: extreme honors like All Decade or the top one hundred 95 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: players in NFL history. Yet their biggest smiles, their biggest 96 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: reactions happen when a teammate mats a good catch, a 97 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: teammate makes the team, an undrafted rookie free agent who 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: makes the team. That is when you really see Fits. 99 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say at his best, but that is what 100 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: he likes to see as opposed to, Hey, look what 101 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: I did today. Wow, just look where his locker is. 102 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean Trent Sherfield. You know, Michael Floyd was down 103 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: a little bit further John Brown, undrafted free agent, and 104 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: he roots for these guys just like a first round pick. Yeah, 105 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: it's just it's remarkable. And you know, obviously they say 106 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: you lead by example, but you know he's I mean, 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: he's he's like the compass. I mean, he's got a 108 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: really good pulse of this football team. So, in addition 109 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: to no fits during the open portion of practice today, 110 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: we did not see DeAndre Hopkins. Should be mentioned that 111 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: he was on the practice field on Sunday during the 112 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: open portion. Kenyan Drake has now missed six straight practices. 113 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: Kelvin Beecham and Corey Peter is not seen during the 114 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: open portion of practice. Those two might be like fits 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: given a Veterans Day off and some good news tied end. 116 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: Max Williams, who has missed I would say roughly about 117 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: two weeks of practice time, was participating during the open 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: portion of practice, and here we are, MJ with two 119 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: weeks this week and next week ahead of the regular 120 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: season openers. So good to see Max Williams participating. Yeah, 121 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a big part of this offense. You know, 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: we can sit here and talk about Dan Arnold, obviously 123 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: a small sample, and I think everyone's excited with his upside. 124 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: We'll get into what Bret Honey said about him. But 125 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Max Williams, you know, I referred to him as a 126 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: meet and potatoes guy. They're gonna need this guy. And 127 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, if they're gonna go eleven personnel, and that 128 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: means you're link gonna have one tight end in the 129 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: field they could throw out of but they can run 130 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: from it. And we'll get into Sean Coogler's comments because 131 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: his team wants to run the football this year. Well, 132 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: and we heard Kingsbury say earlier in training camp, when 133 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: asked about Williams and the time that he was missing, 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: he called Max Williams the cornerstone of this offense. And 135 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I've heard Ron wilfully discuss it as well. Not that 136 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: if Max Williams is having a good season, then the 137 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals are having a good season, but just what you 138 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: talked about within the offensive scheme, he is such a 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: focal point, maybe not catching the ball, but certainly in 140 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: the blocking and also running routes as far as being 141 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: targeted or at least taking some attention away from someone else. Yeah, 142 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: and if you want to go three wide, I mean 143 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: we talk about whoever. That third receiver is likely Christian Kirk. 144 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: You're going to draw possibly the third corner of teams 145 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: are going nickel. You may draw a safety or a linebacker. 146 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: And he's really good protecting the edge. If the Cardinals 147 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: want to go spread teams out, you know, he can 148 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: obviously chip maybe a defensive end or a linebacker coming 149 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: off the edge, and then he can release for a pass. 150 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: And he's very durable the passing game. You know, we 151 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: kind of poked fund of him and he lost the 152 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: ball in the sun last year. I think the Cardinals 153 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: had two or three guys lose the ball in the sun, 154 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: but obviously for the most part, and you could tell 155 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: what the organization thought about him by giving him an extension. So, 156 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, we're seeing guys, you know, miss practice here 157 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: and there. I think when we get to next week, 158 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: maybe over the next couple of days, you're going to 159 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: see when it comes to the injury report, you know, 160 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: you got a list of the guys you know obviously 161 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: has any ailing injuries, but I think when we get 162 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: to next week, you're going to see everything get rapped 163 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: up even more. Update to the latest version of the 164 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an all new 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: redesign homescreen experience. Visit asy cardinals dot com slash app 166 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: for more. Cardinals training camp powered by Cox as we 167 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: come to you from State Farm Stadium. Here the final 168 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: full week of training camp. The Cardinals are due to 169 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: break camp on Thursday and then get ready for the 170 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: regular season. And speaking of that, we do have some 171 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: roster moves that we need to touch base on, and 172 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: there have been six players since our last show MJ 173 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: that have been released, including three cornerbacks, which I think 174 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: says a lot about where this team believes they are 175 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,479 Speaker 1: at that position. But the six players let go cornerbacks 176 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: CWB Zane Lewis and Jalen Davis, also tight end Ryan Becker, 177 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Stephen Gonzalez, and defensive lineman Adam Schuller. The 178 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals roster right now stands at seventy four. They need 179 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: to get to fifty three by this weekend. Saturday specifically 180 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: is the day, and then of course you can start 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: looking at practice squad and then getting your roster set 182 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: for week one, but the fact that there are three 183 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: cornerbacks released, you now have seven healthy cornerbacks on the roster, 184 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: led by Patrick Peterson. So they did flood that position. 185 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I'll steal your phrasing, MJ. And now they've kind of 186 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: figured out, Okay, who do we like, who can we 187 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: count on, and who perhaps maybe can be a develop 188 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: mints either later this season or perhaps maybe even looking 189 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: down the line. Well, if you look at the top three, 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: you got Patrick Peterson, you got Byron Murphy, and you know, 191 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: just based on what you're hearing from Vans Joseph and 192 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: you're hearing from Drake Kirkpatrick, it appears that he's going 193 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: to be the day one starter. Again. The depth chart 194 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: will come out next week. We're kind of speculating, but 195 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: based on conversations, I think they're leaning that way. And 196 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: then we look at Chris Jones, he's got good size 197 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: because it plays on special teams. And then Kevin Peterson, 198 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: and then you got Jase Whittaker, where maybe he's a 199 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: guy you try to slide on the practice squad because 200 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: when we talked to Vans, yes, he was getting valuable 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: reps here, but it was a you know, what was 202 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: the word he used, Vans Joseph referring to Whittaker. He 203 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: performed well in a controlled environment. So in other words, well, 204 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: we were asking him to do he did well, but 205 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: we're not going to ask him to do that in 206 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: game day because everything's going to be like going one 207 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour. So you could see it again. 208 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: Do they keep five corners? Because you got to have 209 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: some guys that play on special teams, you know, and 210 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy obviously plays on teams. Curious to see if 211 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: Kirkpatrick plays on teams. We know that Peterson, Kevin Peterson 212 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: and then Chris Jones play on teams. So do they 213 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: keep five there? In four safeties, they keep four corners. 214 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: Try to slide somebody on the practice squad or you know, 215 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be I think it's gonna be nine 216 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: in the secondary now it's a matter of four or five. 217 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: And Craig, you know, I was doing stuff with the 218 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: Darren Urban last week and I always talk about this 219 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: time of the year, and really I think it's more 220 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: prevalent this year. I think going to camp, you kind 221 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: of have an idea who you're top forty eight to 222 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: forty five to forty eight players. Now it's a matter of, 223 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's a numbers game. How many running backs 224 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: do they keep? Do they keep three or four they 225 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: try to slide one of the practice squad. How many 226 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers they keep six or seven where we may 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: only see five or six on game day. How many 228 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: linemen will they keep? Usually want to go heavy there 229 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: in nine or ten. How many tight ends make the Rocks? 230 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: You gotta think three. So I think those five to 231 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: last seven spots are gonna be guys that are depth. 232 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: And we talk about how much it means to Jeff 233 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Rogers and Cliff Kingsbury and Steve Kime to get these guys. 234 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: So I think they have an idea. And Cliff made 235 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: a really good point over the weekend, and I didn't 236 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: think about it. And maybe that's not the case this 237 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: year because we didn't have any preseason games, because you know, 238 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: you gotta always be larry of releasing players because another 239 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: team can bring them in and start picking that their brain. 240 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: And it happened when Charles Knoff last year. So without 241 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: a preseason I do think the Cardinals will obviously search 242 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: the waiver wire, but I anticipate they would like to 243 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: have a few of these guys. If not, I wouldn't 244 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: say the majority. I think they want them back because 245 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: it's one thing to claimed someone and then all of 246 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, they got to learn your system. These guys 247 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: have been here, whether it was virtual, on field, strength 248 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: and conditioning, ramp up training camp. They know them are 249 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: about your system. So in previous years. Let's go back 250 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: to last year or Cardinals five guys because they had 251 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: the first waiver claim and some of these guys came 252 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: in and contribute. I don't know if that's going to 253 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: be the case, but obviously you don't have the scouts 254 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: at pre season games where maybe a team has a 255 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: really young players got more upside, so they cut the 256 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: veteran players. So it's gonna be totally different. But I 257 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: do anticipate the Cardinals they really like possibly you know 258 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: a handful of guys that are on their roster right 259 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: now to be part of the practice squad. Well, let's 260 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: do a little math here. You've got a roster right 261 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: now at seventy four. You have to get down to 262 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: fifty three, so we subtract that's twenty one players that 263 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: for a little while anyway, are going to be losing 264 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: their job. You can bring back as many as sixteen 265 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: to the practice squad. Sixteen out of twenty one, that's 266 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot, leaving five guys that are going to be told, hey, 267 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: you know what, we just don't have a spot for 268 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: you right now. But keep your phone handy. Maybe we're 269 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: calling you later in the season. So that practice squad 270 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: increase to sixteen. I think you're going to see a 271 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: lot of clubs Cardinals retaining their own guys just because, 272 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: as you said, they know what these players are and 273 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: without the benefit of pre season, without the benefit of 274 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: any practice footage. The Cardinals, like every other team, they're 275 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: not putting a lot out there for public consumption. And now, 276 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if you see a player get released, 277 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: you're going back to their college tape. You're going back 278 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: to what you've seen them do on the field. Maybe 279 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: it's a veteran, but in that case they have a 280 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: little bit longer of a resume. But if it's a 281 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: college free agent that didn't get drafted or even was drafted, 282 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: and then gets released, you gotta ask yourself two questions. One, 283 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: why did they get released, and then too, what did 284 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: we think of them going back five, six, seven months ago? 285 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: And then how do we know that they are still 286 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: that player? Because if we had them rated highly and 287 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: X player or X team released them, oh do we 288 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: want them now? Well, I think Steve Kine brought it up. 289 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: How important is that fourth game? I think when you're 290 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: looking at the bottom of the roster. I mean he 291 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: managed at Dennis car Deck. I mean, you know Cap Cappy, 292 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: he would kill in the preseason that the Cardinals didn't 293 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: feel like he can hold up there in the regular season. 294 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: So those preseason games and when you go to preseason 295 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: games or other scouts here. But you know the Cardinals, 296 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: I think they really like some of their undrafted free agents. 297 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: I know they like their rookie class. So it only 298 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: makes sense. In any other previous year you would say 299 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to be active on the waiver wire. 300 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: Now when we all say this, these guys got to 301 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: clear waivers. But it's gonna be a little bit different 302 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: to where you're gonna claim a guy because you saw 303 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: him playing the third fourth preseason game and you think 304 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: you can help your team. And if you claim a guy, 305 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be on your roster for at least three weeks, 306 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: so there's no you know, teams hiding and stashing players. 307 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: So it's a very unusual year. And I'm glad that 308 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: these guys are getting the reps they did, because we 309 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: know injuries occur and at some point you're probably gonna 310 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: have to tap into a practice squad guy. So I 311 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be as fluid it was. 312 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: For an example, like the Raiders today or released Prince Amakamura. 313 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Now our team's gonna do that because you don't want 314 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: to get to wait to set you get released because 315 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: now you gotta go on the fifty three man rosters. 316 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: So maybe teams are doing a favor to get him 317 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: out there, because you know, he can't claims he can 318 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: play in any system, and if he was available a 319 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, he just wonder how many teams 320 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: would have interest. But I do think teams are going 321 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: to try to do some help to veterans before the deadline, 322 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: just to give them an opportunity. Local player as well. 323 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I have Apolle High School, and there are some times 324 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: that he's been connected to the Cardinals over the last 325 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: several years. By my count, MJ. Getting back to these 326 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agents, I have four that are currently 327 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: still on the roster. Running back Jonathan Ward, wide receiver Joejoeward, 328 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: linebacker Reggie Walker, and cornerback Jas Whittaker. The player that 329 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: probably is Guy earnered the most attention out of those 330 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agents brought up by Patrick Peterson, and 331 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: we just had the conversation about what Vance Joseph had 332 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: to say about him. So four players still right there, 333 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: and we know over the years the Cardinals have done 334 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: really well with maintaining those undrafted rookie free agents. It's 335 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: just and we've talked about it all offseason, it's gonna 336 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: be so much harder for those players to make the 337 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: initial Week one roster here in twenty twenty. Well, and 338 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: that's why if they do go with four corners, I 339 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: got to anticipate they're going to try to slide one there. 340 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: If they go with five or six receivers and only 341 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: see five dress on game day, I think they're gonna 342 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: probably have two wide receivers on the practice squad. And 343 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: that's just and listen, this is a great opportunity for 344 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: these young men that didn't have a pro day, that 345 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: didn't get invited to the combine. You get, you get 346 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: the practice every day, you had the health benefits. It 347 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: pays actually pretty well. And the only thing he does 348 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: that you don't travel at a road games, and usually 349 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: they're here at home games and you're just one player 350 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: away and it's easier to tap into your practice squad. Now. 351 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Obviously the Cardinals didn't have that luxury last year when 352 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: they went out and made the trade for Kenyan Drake, 353 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: but they also brought in Alfred Morrison, Zach Center. So 354 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. But I think they you know, 355 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: going in when you signed twenty two undrafted free aidens, 356 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: you know you filter them through. And now we're down 357 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: to what five or six? You said five? I got 358 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: four four if my math is correct, and who knows, 359 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're considering, considering where you start. It's where 360 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: you are right now with a little over less than 361 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: a week to go before you have to set your 362 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: fifty three. But we look at guys like Trench Sherfield 363 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: he made as an undrafted on teams. Ezekiel Turners still 364 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: trying to find his way on defense. He looks much 365 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: more athletic. I really like him as a depth at 366 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. You know, Evan Weaver looks like their draft 367 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: picks are gonna stick. We'll see about a Keen Butler. 368 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: It's a numbers game there for a Keen Butler. You know, 369 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: based on the way that Isabelle and Keyshawn Johnson had 370 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: perform and trench sherfield. He doesn't get talked about enough. 371 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: And I know they like some of these undrafted free aidens, 372 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be fascinating. But really it's a numbers 373 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: crunch based on Normally you take a roster, Craig and 374 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: you go twenty five on offense, twenty five on defense, 375 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: and then three on special teams. You know, some teams 376 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: go twenty six defense twenty four because last year the 377 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals only had two tight ends on the active roster 378 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: to start to season. You know, routine Charles Claim, Max 379 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: Williams then eventually involved in Derrell Daniels and Dan Arnolds. 380 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: So usually it's five three when you make a fifty three, 381 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: but sometimes teams will go You see a team go 382 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: twenty three on offense and twenty seven on defense, so 383 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting. The dynamics when the roster 384 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: gets announced over the weekend. It is a Monday edition 385 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: of Cards covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner of 386 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As we come to you from State 387 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium, where the Cardinals are hosting training camp powered 388 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: by Cox and those numbers. Do the Cardinals go heavy 389 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: on offense? Do they go heavy on defense? Or is 390 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 1: it a natural split? Cardinals certainly like what they have 391 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: right now. And we had a chance earlier today to 392 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: hear from offensive line coach John Coogler the one question 393 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: that we still don't have an answer for, and it 394 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: was probably one of the top questions asked ahead of 395 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: training camp, and that is who starts at right tackle. 396 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: Calvin Beacham and Justin Murray are right now your top 397 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: two guys. Josh Jones, the rookie, probably running out of time, 398 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: and really I don't even know if he was much 399 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: of a consideration given the number of reps that this 400 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: team needed to see out of Murray and Beacham and 401 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: the fact that there just wasn't enough time because of 402 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic and a lack of an off season. But 403 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: according to Kogler, Beacham quote transitioned to right tackle. Remember 404 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: he's a left tackle naturally, but does like the competition 405 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: between Beacham and Justin Murray because it quote has brought 406 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: out the best in both of them. I know Cliff 407 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Kingsbury has been mentioned several times. What's the status at 408 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: right tackle? No one is saying right now, and we 409 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: might not get an answer really until next week. Yeah. 410 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean again, I think it's valuable when you bring 411 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: in a guy like Calvin Beacham. You know, thirty six, 412 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: starts at left tackle, team captor for three years. He 413 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: has experienced. But hey, give Justin Murray crditt. I mean, 414 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: worst case scenario if they decide to go with the 415 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: veteran guy and beach him. Murray, to me, he could 416 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: be your swing tackle. I mean he can now. Obviously 417 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: he's played on the right side, and according to Kugler, 418 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: they've been working on at guard. So the more the 419 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: merrit To me, Justin Murray is going to be your 420 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: first lineman coming off the bench, and then Max Garcia. 421 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: Now Garcia can play interior, he could play a little guard, 422 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: he could play a little center. And we talked about 423 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: dressing eight offensive linemen this year, so where does another 424 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: guy come from? Because you know, you gotta be able 425 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: to play multiple positions when you're a rotation guy, and 426 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: I think Murray fits that profile. I think Max Garcia 427 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: if fits that profile. You know, um, you know, i'd 428 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: have to look at where Mark Gilliard is and Josh 429 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: Miles a little bit younger. But I really like what 430 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: Kugler said today. And you know I was going to 431 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: ask the question, but it had already had been previously asked. 432 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: How much better can this unit to beat in the 433 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: second year. I think we know how good this offense 434 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: can be, just with the stability. But he thinks at 435 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: this point from a year ago, they have much more 436 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: depth on the offensive line. And I think we were 437 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: all wondering, okay, when Marcus Gilbert opted out, the Cardinals 438 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: were still in a good situation, and you know they 439 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: may keep nine. But I couldn't agree more with him. 440 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: I think it's more stability. I think it's continuity, and 441 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: they do have competition when that comes at a second unit, 442 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: he felt comfortable saying if we get an injury, now 443 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: we know, you know, next man up only works at 444 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: certain spots, but he feels comfortable. Obviously, you want to 445 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: stay healthy. But I couldn't agree more with him. I 446 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: see it, I hear it, and I'm glad he confirmed 447 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: it today. And that last point about the second unit quote, 448 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: I would have zero problems putting any one of them 449 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: in the game. Rady guarding those second unit guys having 450 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: to go in to play. You just look at the 451 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: offensive line where we're at right now, left to right, 452 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: DJ Humphries, Justin Pugh, Mason Cole Jr. Squeeze and let's 453 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: for argument's sake here throw in Kelvin Beecham. There's your 454 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: five staughters. Now your backups, Justin Murray, Max Garcia. There 455 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: are seven that you are going to certainly dress on 456 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: game day. And then the eighth is that Lamont Geyard. 457 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: Is that Josh Jones your rookie. Now I've just added 458 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: two names, there's nine, and you still got We haven't 459 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: talked about Sam Jones. We haven't talked about Brett Toth. 460 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I know someone that the Cardinals at least a year 461 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: ago were high on toe. So that might be an 462 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: area because of the versatility that might tip something in 463 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: one guy's favor. If you can't play outside inside and 464 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: maybe even take some snaps at center. Yeah, Sam Jones 465 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: to me, I think he's done enough not to crack 466 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: the top nine or ten. You know another guy that 467 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: you can put on the practice quad and develop him 468 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: Assue guy, right, correct, Yeah, So I mean, I I 469 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's a spot for him, but 470 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's gonna be to crack 471 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: the top nine or ten. But it's a great luxury. 472 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: And keep in mind they did lose their starting right 473 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: tackle going into the training camp, and that was Marcus Gilbert. 474 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: But that goes credit to going out and finding beach 475 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: him and developing Murray last year. And then you know, 476 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: they held on the mex Garcia because he didn't play 477 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: all last year. But he's getting valuable reps in the 478 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: interior line and he's got a veteran experience. Obviously, he 479 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: played for Kogler in Denver, so they feel comfortable with that. Again, 480 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: I prefer the starting same five play every single down, 481 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: but we know this is the NFL. It doesn't always 482 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: happen that way. Garcia did get some snaps on specialties, 483 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: but to your point, not on the offensive line. So 484 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: he missed an entire year. As far as they able 485 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: to get on the field, though exactly so the Cardinals 486 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: certainly on paper, and it's those same two words we've 487 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: been using since this offseason started. On paper, Yes, the 488 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: offensive line looks a lot better now. Nationally, the conversation 489 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: is always going to come back to how many times 490 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was sacked, and that's going to determine whether 491 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: you have a good offensive line or a bad offensive line. 492 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: And over the last couple of day we've heard from 493 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray talking about, Yeah, I need to do better. 494 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: I need to know that I can throw the ball away. 495 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't need to take as many hits. And yeah, again, 496 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: a lot of those sacks were on my shoulders, not 497 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: on my lineman's shoulders, And it's just a matter of 498 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: stepping up in the pocket, not stepping back to avoid 499 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: those negative plays. So if you're looking at the offensive 500 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: scheme and how this offense we hope continues to move forward, 501 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: it's going to begin an end with how all the 502 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: offensive line gaels. Yeah, and another thing, and you got 503 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: to listen to Sean Coogler. He's no nonsense. You know. 504 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Obviously he's probably different than the meetings because he expects 505 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, but he's got their back. 506 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: You better make sure you know what you're talking about 507 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: him and he talked about because of a college game 508 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: in Kingsbury running the football in college. This team still 509 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: wants to run the football. I think we could fixate 510 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: it because you had DeAndre Hopkins and I understand, but 511 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: we've talked about this, and you know, teams that run 512 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: the ball over thirty times again they win a lot 513 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And then the analytics people say, well, 514 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: it's a passing league, yes, but the run's going to 515 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: set up to pass in this offense. And so it 516 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: all starts up front. But you know the fact that 517 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: you know Kingsbury relies on Kugler, Steve Hyden, the tight 518 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: ends coach James Saxon, the running backs coach dre in 519 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: the week. And are they gonna go with a power scheme? 520 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: I think go with the zone scheme based on the 521 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: opponent so they feel more comfortable. And then having a 522 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: guy like Kenyan Drake and Chase Evans back there, they 523 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: feel like this team can line up and run the 524 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: football and if teams want to put six in the box, 525 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: they're going to continue to run. They want to put 526 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: seven in a box. We're gonna throw it. Here's what 527 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: Kugler had to say about Kingsbury quote, he loves to 528 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: run the ball, and the results show. Talking about what 529 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: the team did a year ago and sitting a franchise 530 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: record in terms of yards per carry and finishing number 531 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: ten and the run game across the league, we've heard 532 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: DJ Humphries say there's no reason why we can't improve 533 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: upon those numbers. Mason Cole last week quote, in this league, 534 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: you got to run the ball. And he also expects 535 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: this team to push the limits, as he put it, 536 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: as far as being even better of a running team 537 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: than they were in twenty nineteen. I love the confidence 538 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: and they showed it. It's not like you know, we go, oh, 539 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: look at five games what they did. This is over 540 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: the course of the year. Now, like I said, you 541 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: know last week on Cards Camp Central, I think it's 542 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: gonna be hard for Kenyan Drake to average what he did. 543 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: But again I brought up Alvin Kamara. I mean, if 544 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: he's at four to six, I'll take it. You know, 545 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: you just don't want three three per carry because all 546 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know you want to you want 547 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: to get some chunk plays, but I really like the 548 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: fact that they're they're committed to running the football and 549 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: that will open up the passing game. Now, I think 550 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: Craig going into the season, correct me if I'm wrong. 551 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I think we're all kind of sold on the offense, 552 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: and I think we're sold on paper on the defense. 553 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: But this defense is going to have to play up 554 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: to par. If this team's gonna win football games this year, well, 555 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: they have to be much more improved than they were 556 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: a year ago. And it's not all that difficult to 557 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: take a step to take gigantic steps forward, but as 558 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: the players better play on paper, Yes, they have certainly 559 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: made additions in all three levels defensive line, linebackers, and 560 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: then the secondary to where they feel very, very good 561 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: and even losing someone of a Robert Alford, who a 562 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: year ago outside of Patrick Peterson was probably your best 563 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: corner in training camp, and then he doesn't see the 564 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: field at all once again, not going to see the 565 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: field at all here, So that's two straight seasons he's missed. 566 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: Yet the Cardinals might feel not that they're better off, 567 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: but maybe fortunate that they found someone and Drake Kirkpatrick, yes, 568 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: he was off the street. Yes, he's coming off injury, 569 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's a lateral move. I 570 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: don't know if you can say you've gotten better or 571 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: you've gotten worse. But it's a lot better having him 572 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: with what we've seen so far in camp than putting 573 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy out there like they had two a year ago. Yeah, 574 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, I know we always say, well, why was 575 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: he available? I mean, Logan Ryan's out there. Supposedly he 576 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: wants over ten million a year. I mean, there's a 577 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: reason why. And some guys are waiting for an injury, 578 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: and I thought they would have been in Golden Dray Kirkpatrick. 579 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's played in ninety nine games. What Drake 580 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Kirkpatrick brings is, yes, he had some injuries last year, 581 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: but body of work. If we look at body of work, 582 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: Alfred had an injury in Atlanta, He's had an injury 583 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: and back to back season. I was excited for him. 584 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: But this guy's he started almost sixty six or sixty 585 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: seven games, and he's familiar fans. Was his a position 586 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: coach in Cincinnati from twenty fourteen to sixteen. So I 587 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: think they covered really well there. Now we'll have to 588 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: wait and see because we know he's gonna get targeted. 589 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: We know that Murphy's gonna get targeted. But Drake ka Patrick, 590 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a household name out there, so I 591 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: think they covered very well. Obviously it's not ideal, but 592 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: I also think it gives him some flexibility to move 593 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Murphy inside, which is he wants to play his natural position. 594 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: So I think really the parts fell in place for 595 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Now we'll have to wait and see how 596 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: it performs. But you're getting a veteran guy, familiarity with 597 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: the defense, familiar with the coordinator, and he obviously was 598 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: excited to come here. And I think Kyle Rodabout or Darrenett, 599 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, relationships matter. Relationships matter, and the fact that 600 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have Intel when it came to Jordan Phillips 601 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: with Vance, Joseph Intel when they were doing Free Agenciason 602 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: a year ago, with Max Garcia Vans Joseph obviously in Coogler. 603 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: So it's it's always good to have relationships around the league. 604 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: And to me, it could be a perfect match. We'll 605 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: find out, And that's what Kirkpatrick said. Over the weekend, 606 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: he spoke to the media for the first time since 607 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: his arrival on Sunday, and he said, yeah, teams were calling. 608 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: He was weighing his options. But he mentioned that that 609 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: quote great relationship with Vance Joseph somewhat tipped it in 610 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: the favor of the Cardinals. And it's not just the 611 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: relationship of those two years. M J. Kirkpatrick mentioned that 612 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: he has kept in touch with coach Joseph over the years, 613 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: a phone call, a text, not all about football. Just 614 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: he called him a mentor, and I think that speaks 615 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,239 Speaker 1: a lot to why maybe he was not waiting for 616 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals to call, because you'd never anticipate an injury, 617 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: but why perhaps even after the offered injury, there was 618 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: BW Web brought in, Ken Crawley brought in, and then 619 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: the third cornerback added was Kirkpatrick. And he might be 620 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: your daughter opposite Patrick Peterson. Yeah, I think and we 621 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, besides the starts and the familiarity with dance 622 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: and because the Cardinals have added some new wrinkles to 623 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: that defense, but six two one ninety long arms, physical, 624 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: not afraid to tackle in the open field. So and 625 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: when that job became available, he's probably thinking, I'm gonna 626 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: get I'm gonna get some you know, my hands on 627 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: some footballs this year because teams are going to shy 628 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: away from Patrick Peterson or the quarterbacks is gonna feel pressure. 629 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: I gotta get my number one wide receiver in the offense. 630 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: So there's gonna be plenty of opportunities whoever was going 631 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: to take that role. But the fact that he's got 632 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: an NFL experienced so to me, some of these other 633 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: guys have bounced around. He hasn't bounced around. I don't 634 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: think the light's gonna be too big for him. I 635 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna have you know, saucers and eyes 636 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: when he steps on the field in Santa Clara. Well, 637 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: he should be fresh, certainly. I mean having that time 638 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: to rehab an injury and even extra time to let 639 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: the entire body recover. And he's got a great mindset. 640 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: He's certainly confident in his ability. But he was asked 641 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: specifically about being that number two cornerback and he said, quote, 642 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm just here to play. I'm here to compete. Come 643 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: Game one, I will be ready. He's not assuming that 644 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: he is the guy. Now. It's easy to look and 645 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the cornerbacks on the roster and say oh, 646 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: without question, he can be the guy. Well, you do 647 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: have Byron Murphy, who is certainly more comfortable playing in 648 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: the slot, but we saw in a pinch and in 649 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: case of last year, of the entire season play outside. 650 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: But if you can go with Patrick Peterson and Draker 651 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: Patrick and keep Murphy in the slot and then utilize 652 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: whether a Chris Jones or Kevin Peterson or perhaps down 653 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: the line and Isaiah Simmons being able to cover someone 654 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: once he gets comfortable at the NFL game, Now you've 655 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: got a good rotation and certainly guys are not being 656 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: stretched too thin. Yeah, and I know you're talking corners. 657 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: I really like the secondary on paper now based on 658 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: what I watched Robert Alford in the last two years. 659 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: You know, obviously I was excited to see him, but 660 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: unfortunately it's about availability and durability, and unfortunately he works 661 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: so hard. And you know, I feel for guys like that, 662 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: just like Marcus Gilbert last year. But at the NFL 663 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: you gotta make adjustments. But I like their safeties. I mean, 664 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: I like Buddha Baker, I like Jalen Thompson. We'll see 665 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: about Chris Banjo, and I think, you know, I'm still 666 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: gonna go with it because of Patrick Peterson and the 667 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder. I still think the secondary is 668 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: going to be their strength, even though they had to 669 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: find a corner opposite of Patrick Peterson and appears to 670 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: be Patrick will wait and see when everything becomes official. Well, 671 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: if it's their strength, that's fine. Then the most improved 672 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: area of the defense has to be that defensive line 673 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: and you find a good rotation of five or six 674 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: guys and then maybe you go a little bit lighter 675 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: on the defensive line and heavier somewhere else. Because we've 676 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: heard coach Joseph say, and you know, how do we 677 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: utilize both A Jordan Hicks, deve Andre Campbell and Isaiah 678 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: Simmons as far as linebackers to go along with Chandler 679 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: Jones and Devon Kanard. That's five. I mean, how many 680 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: times this season do you think, MJ we're gonna see 681 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: five linebackers on the field. Well, well, in a three 682 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: to four, I mean you're gonna see it a lot. 683 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: The thing is, though, I think they definitely improved now. 684 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: The inside linebacker to me, is much better, more athletic, 685 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'll even throwing Evan Weaver. You know, I 686 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: we'll see if he's active on game day. He can't 687 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: trust everyone, but that inside linebacker between Jordan Hicks, deve 688 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: Andre Campbell, it's a and Isaiah Simmons, Ezekiel Turner, Evan Marsh. Now, 689 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: so how many they keep there? And then outside? You know, 690 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: let's be honest that you got Chandler Jones, and you 691 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: got Devin Kinnard and then Hassan Reddick, does Kylie Fitz 692 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: getting there? Just Dennis Gardick getting there because we know 693 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: Gardicks is going to be on special teams. So when 694 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: you play a three four, you're gonna have to go 695 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: heavy at that position. Now, granted they all won't dress 696 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: on game day, so that's gonna be interesting. And then 697 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: D line when you go to a three to four, 698 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: you don't need nine D lineman, you need seven and 699 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: you normally dress six on game day. You know, obviously 700 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: you got guys like you know, Corey Peters and Jordan 701 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: Phillips and Zach Allen. Then he's throwing Jonathan Bullet and 702 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: throwing the two draft picks Lucky Vota, and then he's 703 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: throwing Richard Lawrence and then you know, we'll see about 704 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: guys like Miles Brown and Michael Dogby. So when you 705 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 1: go when you're playing a four to three, you gotta 706 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: keep nine. Here. I think they're gonna keep seven. We'll 707 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: see who those top six guys aren't. Quick update on 708 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: one of those secondary player as Kentrol Bryce, who had 709 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: to be carted off the field during the Red and 710 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: White practice. According to Kingsbury, the injury quote does not 711 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: appear to be as significant end quote as it certainly looked. 712 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: Because anytime, well one, anytime a player that goes down, 713 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: but anytime the card has to come out and take 714 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: a player off, it is not good. And if you 715 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: watch the broadcast of the run White practice on Saturday 716 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: night on twelve News, it happened during one of those 717 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin runs, and if you knew where to look, 718 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: you could see his leg kind of get bent, and 719 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: it just it was an awkward He got rolled up 720 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: a little bit and it's bending the way it's not 721 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: supposed to bend. So certainly it looked a lot more 722 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: severe than it perhaps was, which is good news for 723 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: someone that the Cardinals added late here in the off 724 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: season and is again trying at the safety position to 725 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: make the roster. Yeah, and I like the fact that 726 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about could they address that, you know, 727 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: maybe a veteran safety, but they retained span Joe. He's 728 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: a really good special teams player. He got a chance 729 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: to play on defense late in the year, um when 730 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: obviously they're kind of down on Deontay Thompson and obviously 731 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: some injuries. So yeah, I mean, you just wonder what 732 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: it's going to look like when they make the fifty 733 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: three man roster, and you know, obviously you got to 734 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: make sure he's healthy and if you you know, if 735 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: he's a guy that obviously you may want to keep 736 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: for a year, then we'll see what the transaction is. 737 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: But you know, they they felt comfortable with Chris Banjo. 738 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: Now I do think Deontay Thompson's got to step up. 739 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: He's got to become a better tackler, He's got to 740 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: communicate a little bit better. Now. The good news is 741 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: that are not relying on him to be an every 742 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: down player, but that's that's a work in progress in 743 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: my opinion. And Charles Washington, much like Banjo, more of 744 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: a special teams by, but certainly trying to get their 745 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: reps on defense as well, and those are the guys 746 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: they claimed last year, Kevin Peterson Special Teams, Chris Jones 747 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: Special Teams. Now Chris Jones was on the roster. I'm 748 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: glad you mentioned I always in the locker room his 749 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: name is Chuck, so yeah, I always screw that up 750 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: when you see Charles Robins or Charles Washington. I know 751 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Glad you mentioned it because I think 752 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: he's really in the same boat is Chris Banjo. I 753 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: remember introducing myself to him talking about Charles Washington in 754 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: the locker room last year, and he goes, he's kind 755 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: of stopped me as I prefer Chuck. It's like, okay, 756 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: then you're Chuck. But on the roster he shows up 757 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: Charles Washington might probably. I mean that's typically how Michael 758 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: usually was when I was in trouble. Yeah, exactly, you 759 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: did get them, Michael Joseph. There you go. You certainly 760 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: don't want the full name, first, middle, and last. Then 761 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: you know you're really, really in trouble. Hey, make sure 762 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: you subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, 763 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: Music too, nan Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite 764 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: shows on the go, like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rage, 765 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report, and of course this show 766 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two. Visit Easy Cardinals dot Com Slash podcasts 767 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: for more information. A reminder cards Camp Central on Tuesday 768 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: and Thursday of this week and a new start time 769 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: three m. The Cardinals have kind of changed their practice 770 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: schedule here there last week at State Farm Stadium, So 771 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: cards Camp Central powered Buy Cox with Paul CALVISI hosting 772 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. I'll be in that seats on Thursday with 773 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. Those two shows coming your way on three 774 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: pm on YouTube. Yeah, and it's something new this year. 775 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: We're doing in great response. And I do may need 776 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: to make a correction. When we were talking about Zach Allen, 777 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned he was going into his second year a 778 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: third year where I got confused with him in Mason Coles. 779 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 1: So Zach Allen's going into his second year. Obviously, Steve 780 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: Kim spoke very highly of him what he did in 781 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: college last year after they got him in the draft, 782 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: and so Mason Cole's going into third year. So I 783 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 1: just want to make sure. And one of the listeners 784 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: pointed out and he said he enjoyed the show thoroughly, 785 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: So another opportunity for us to kind of break the 786 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: roster down a little bit different format, and Craig does 787 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: a good job with interviews you obviously you can hear 788 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: from different players, so we really like doing it. And 789 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: thanks for a great response he had. Yeah, it's certainly 790 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: a much different training camp for everyone, and we're trying 791 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: to provide that unique experience for fans who typically would 792 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: be out here at Stay Farm Stadium but unable to 793 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: attend here in twenty twenty. Real quick us as we 794 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: close up this edition of Cards, cover two, you talked 795 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: about the birthday boy Larry Fitzgerald outside of a text message, 796 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: M day. Did you get the man who has everything 797 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: anything on this special day August thirty? First, Oh, I didn't. 798 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: He just gave me haying first of all, I don't 799 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: think he needs anything, um, but that is always nice 800 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: to me. The text was fine, and he got back 801 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: to me and he told me I have a great day, 802 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: and I said, this is great. I mean, this is 803 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, and you know he's just he's this simple Larry. 804 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: I mean, what's he gonna do? He's I mean, they're 805 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna throw a party for him tonight. Probably not. Um 806 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: they're breaking camps, so maybe he's got some plans coming up, 807 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know what you can get Larry Fitzgerald. 808 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: Brett Huntley did mention that they tried to tackle Fits 809 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: at some point today's practice, which has never happened before. 810 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen fitz tackled outside of, 811 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: you know, in a game. Has he done that this year? 812 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: Has he gotten someone this year? Because we don't see 813 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: the entire Yeah, that's a good question, like would he 814 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: try to go for Brinson Buckner because he's technically the 815 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: new guy on the coaching staff, even though he's probably 816 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: got more senior than anyone else since he was here 817 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's a great question. I 818 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: don't know how the idea Guys like Joe whoever's the 819 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: most vulnerable, because they certainly don't want to start. He stopped, 820 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: like you know, guys that really probably couldn't get anither way, 821 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: so to speak. It's just good to know that I 822 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: have not been on the receiving end of one of those, 823 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: and hopefully never will. Well, I will say this, though 824 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: everybody threw that ball to me, you were complaining about 825 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: how hard it hit your chest and it's like three 826 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: weeks later, you're still complaining about it. Yeah, Larry's funny. 827 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: You gotta be ready because sometimes I'll throw a ball 828 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: to you on the side. And he threw this ball 829 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: and I did it Andy Usabelle. I caught it on 830 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: my chest last year and he is a bell and 831 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: it really hurt my sternum. I was like, I'm glad 832 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: I caught it because I would have never heard the 833 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: end of it. Like there's a reason why you, you know, 834 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: hold a pencil and a reporter's notebook. Well, let's hope 835 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: you make the improvement that Isabella has made from year 836 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: one year two as far as catching the football. So listen, 837 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: he lives night and day. Just go to easy Cardinals 838 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: dot com. There we'll see because you gotta go out 839 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: there and perform. But I just like where his mindset 840 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: is when it comes to Isabella. Absolutely. On that note, 841 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cards, 842 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 843 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Momandro 844 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: for Mike Jarecki, I'm Greig Riel loup. We'll talk to 845 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: you next time here on cards, Cover two,